1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Now once again there are calls to overhaul the dog laws. 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: These laws are old, about thirty years old, and DASA 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: shows that acc claims from dog attacks have grown in 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: the last few years from about eleven million dollars, it's 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: almost sixteen million dollars and most of this actually the 6 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 1: attacks happens in private homes. Dog trainer and owner of 7 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: Ministry of How Diana Hagart is with us now on 8 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: this high Diana, Hi, how are you doing. I'm very well, 9 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: thank you. Would you support an overhaul of the laws? 10 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 11 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: Why? 12 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: As you said, you know, there's been an increase, it's 13 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: been a steady increase since. I mean, I've been working 14 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 2: with dogs for nineteen years and I started out my 15 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: career with the city council and it's just been steadily increasing. 16 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: I believe the dog Control Acts that we're working with 17 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: at the moment as in nineteen ninety six. But yeah, 18 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 2: so an overhall they're great idea. 19 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: What is it that you would change about the laws? 20 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 2: I mean from a trainer's perspective, I think, you know, 21 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: so many of the problems stem from just a lack 22 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: of education for dog owners. First of all, about you know, 23 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: breed specific requirements, what's actually involved in training a dog, 24 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 2: and also what the legal obligations are of dog owners. 25 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 2: Would you I'd love to see. 26 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: One of the things, Diana, that Auckland City Council appears 27 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: to be pushing for is the ability to detain what like, 28 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: they look at a dog, they go, well, that dog 29 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: looks dodgy as all hell. The ability to just detain 30 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: that dog rather than having to go through a lengthy 31 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: court process to be able to do that. I mean, 32 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: that makes sense to me, doesn't it? That should be allowed. 33 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it depends on what their criteria is. 34 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 2: If it's you know, the way that they identify some 35 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: of our band breeds, you know, the present Canario with it, 36 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: our physical characteristics, that would mean that they would classify 37 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: a dog as menacing by breed or whether or not 38 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: it's behavioral the officer has encountered the dog and they 39 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 2: have deemed them to be dangerous, And I mean, I 40 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: think it would depend on all that kind of stuff. 41 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, how much, By the way, how much does exercise 42 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: because one of the articles suggests that exercises actually a 43 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: real fundamental thing here, and if a dog isn't a 44 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: huge probably not getting enough of a run around. 45 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah, absolutely, that's what I mean by breed specific requirements. 46 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: You know, dogs like kind of huskies and collies, and 47 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: you know dogs like that, they require an enormous amount 48 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 2: of stimulation and enrichment and exercise, and so many of 49 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 2: them are not getting it. So of course, you know 50 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 2: the behaviors, you know, becoming dangerous. 51 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're teaching your kids, because the problem is 52 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: that this is something that freaks parents out and other 53 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: dog owners obviously who generally know how to deal with it. 54 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: But if you're worried as a parent, what do you 55 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: teach your kids about how to approach a dog and 56 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: what to look for in order to keep them safe? 57 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: Oh? I mean, you know, I mean we teach our 58 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: kids pretty much, don't approach a dog. You know, if 59 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 2: a dog is friendly and approaching you, and you've had 60 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 2: an opportunity to ask the owner and is it okay? 61 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: If I say hello, then that's okay. But in general, 62 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 2: don't go to approach dogs. Definitely, don't approach dogs if 63 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: you don't know them. And if a dog's not making 64 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 2: it very clear that it wants to be friends with you, 65 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: then leave it. 66 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: Then all right, Hey, thank you, Diana, I really appreciate it. 67 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: Diana Haggart, dog trainer at Ministry of Hounding. 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