1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: To tell you what. If the New Zealand Labour Party 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: want to get real about re election, they should look 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: no further than the UK Labour Party. So key is 4 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: Starmer blew up the NHS on Friday. It doesn't work. 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: He said, the bloating of the numbers has not improved anything. 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: He said jobs will be lost. Now. Before he blew 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: up the NHS, he attacked the welfare system. He called 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: it unjust and unfair. Essentially, there are far too many 9 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: people sitting on welfare doing nothing and there's no incentive 10 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: for them to change their habits. Remember this is a 11 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: British Labour Prime minister. We're also expecting the Chancellor to 12 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: slash more spending. Why because they don't have any money. 13 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: Oh if only Hipkins or an Adoern or a Robertson 14 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: were anything close to this. What was close to this, 15 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: by the way, was Roger Douglas, David Longey, Richard Prebble, 16 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: David Kagel and Mike Moore. The proper Labour Party, the 17 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: Labour Party many recognized as being the middle of the road, 18 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: centrist type party that a lot of New Zealanders could recognize. 19 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: If what Starmer is up to works, He's Blair two 20 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: point zero and the lesson Blair taught us is the 21 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: same lesson that Bob Hawk taught us. In Australia, a 22 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: labor movement doesn't have to be about wokeness and largess 23 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: and economic ineptitude. It needs to be about common sense 24 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: the worker, and the worker, by the way, is not 25 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: a hardcore unionist, but a middle class New Zealander who 26 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: gets up, makes their kids, lunches, heads to work, comes 27 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: home a little bit late, bit tired, ready for a 28 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: barbecue and a beer at the weekend, living in their 29 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: own home in suburbia, with a belief that life is 30 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: pretty good. New Zealand is pretty good and the future 31 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 1: is moderately bright. None of that is hard but a betch. 32 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: It's completely foreign to most of the current labour lot, 33 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: who butchered the place between twenty seventeen and twenty twenty three. 34 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: The old adage around votes and political support, about the 35 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: center being large and a place to get a lot 36 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,559 Speaker 1: of success is real and we wouldn't mind some wider 37 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: representation to be national or Labour can occupy the center. 38 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: History shows it's possible and it's successful. Hipkins needs to 39 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: study Starmer and learn. For more from the mic Asking Breakfast, 40 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: listen live to news talks that'd be from six am weekdays, 41 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio