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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter wolf

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Speaker 1: Camp from News Talks at B. Whether you're painting the ceiling,

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Speaker 1: fixing the fence, or wondering how to fix that hole

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Speaker 1: eight eight The Resident Builder on us talks at B.

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Speaker 2: A house sizzor even when it's dug, even when the

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Speaker 3: When the dog is too old to bar, and.

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Speaker 4: When you're sitting at the table trying not to stop

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Speaker 4: scissor hole, even when weave a ben, even.

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Speaker 5: When you're the houses along, even when there's goals, even

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Speaker 5: when you go around funnel ones, you love your moves.

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Speaker 2: Screams, broken pains appel in fund locals west when they're

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Speaker 7: Very good morning. Welcome along to the Resident Builder on Sunday.

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Speaker 7: That's with me, Peter wolf Camp, the Risident Builder, taking

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Speaker 7: your calls on all things construction. Now, that's a fairly

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Speaker 7: broad kind of topic because we can talk about the

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Speaker 7: rules and the regulations that govern what we can do,

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Speaker 7: where we can do it, and what we can do

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Speaker 7: it with basically we can talk about the actual doing,

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Speaker 7: whether that's going to be yourself doing the work, whether

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Speaker 7: be sort of a hybrid version of both of those things.

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Speaker 7: We can talk about the materials that you might need

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Speaker 7: that you might either already have or that you may

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Speaker 7: well need to buy. There is a small delight in

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Speaker 7: going out and finding a useful tool that perhaps you

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Speaker 7: being able to purchase that and then go ahead with

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Speaker 7: a couple of projects. And I think, depending on how

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Speaker 7: Protractors are a tool, aren't they. Anyway, I found one

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Speaker 7: just we can talk about all the like I say,

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Speaker 7: the regulations, the rules, the regulations maybe around the building stuff.

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Speaker 7: Maybe it's around what you can do your land, what

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Speaker 7: And I guess too where it's quite interesting. I haven't

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Speaker 7: it's Pete atnewstalksb dot co dot z. Now a little

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Speaker 7: We've done it the last couple of years. I think

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Speaker 7: it's great to support the apprenticeship schemes and also to

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Speaker 7: with you, Rosk. Very good morning, Yeah, Pete.

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Speaker 8: Two things.

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Speaker 9: First of all, I think the line will come off

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Speaker 9: easy enough for the putty knife or something, but that

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Speaker 9: try Okay, it might get a bugged anyway, but a

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Speaker 9: share tray, what do you reckon to get it off before.

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Speaker 7: It's not cracked or damaged in any way?

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Speaker 9: Now, no, um, coming out of my house and going

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Speaker 9: to somewhere else's yeah, fair enough if it survives.

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Speaker 7: Yeah no, no, no, that's that's awesome. I mean, look, I'm

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Speaker 7: It'll be interesting to see what the shower lining looks

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Speaker 7: you do that, I would say I'd take the same

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Speaker 7: perimeter of the shower tray to be fair, most of

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Speaker 7: the time, when you glue them down, I don't think

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Speaker 7: I think the glue works just to stop it moving around,

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Speaker 7: you know. So once you give it a little bit

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Speaker 7: I think you'll get it up and.

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Speaker 9: Maybe a Jimmy Barr or something.

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Speaker 7: it will depend on how old it is, So if

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Speaker 7: it's really old and fragile, then yeah, maybe not so much.

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Speaker 9: But I'm guessing the same age of the house, which

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And I assume you can get underneath the floor

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Speaker 7: to disconnect the waste.

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Speaker 9: Oh no, it's all done.

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Speaker 7: Oh excellent, Okay, what I've done.

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Speaker 9: I had to put a bigger shower in the case

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Speaker 9: one day. I need to because I'm not I'm not

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Speaker 9: as fit as I want for a bit of a

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Speaker 9: cripple and the lads say that too late.

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Speaker 7: You can say to yourself.

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Speaker 9: Right, that's that out of the way. Now, what I'd

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Speaker 9: keep in touch with that lady because I'm I'm real

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Speaker 9: keen to know what the outcome is?

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Speaker 3: Sorry, which which person, particularly.

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Speaker 9: The one I'm about to come to that mate, the

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Speaker 9: one that's who's some other some other bugger stack there downput.

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Speaker 7: In the cargo? Yes, yeah it was. It was in

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Speaker 7: the cargo. There's a block of shops and in the cargo.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, that's all.

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Speaker 9: I'm there here, so I'm mad keen to know what

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Speaker 7: Yes, I'll tell you what actually just on that, I've

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Speaker 7: just made a connection. Did Marcus get a seat on

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Speaker 7: the in the Cargo City council because he was running

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Speaker 7: for council.

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Speaker 9: He always runs for the council. You know he normally

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Speaker 7: He He did last time, but he's been the councilor before.

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Speaker 7: I'm going to find out. Yeah no, I just thinking,

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Speaker 7: you know, that's local contact. I just ring Marcus and

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Speaker 7: go Marcus. Can you sort the out please? It's it

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Speaker 9: Not only that we want to know as well.

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Speaker 7: That's right, and so do I to be fair. So

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Speaker 7: if she's listening, I'm more than happy to take another call,

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Speaker 7: because that was a remarkably cheeky moment to just go

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Speaker 9: Maybe even early for us. So you might want to

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Speaker 9: mention again.

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Speaker 7: I will do that. Tell you what now, just talking

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Speaker 7: about tools and finding a use for a tool that

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Speaker 7: you don't own. I tell you what I did see

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Speaker 7: out of my wallet yet, but I'm tempted, and I'll

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Speaker 7: just think about for your job. So if you can

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Speaker 7: also these little like a blow up bag that you

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Speaker 7: can use instead of a pride bar. So imagine if

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Speaker 7: you got under the air tock the waist out and

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Speaker 7: then you can get around the edges with a pride

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Speaker 7: bar from the inside and from on top of the floor.

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Speaker 7: But if you were to get underneath the floor and

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Speaker 7: slide one of those little inflatable wedges in there and

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Speaker 7: pump it up a little bit, you might be able

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Speaker 7: to loosen the adhesive in an area that you can't

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Speaker 7: get to with the pride bar.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I will consider that. Because they're using for doors

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Speaker 7: Well, they look fantastic, to be fair.

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Speaker 9: Yes, I've seen ue used.

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Speaker 7: Okay, it might be a race between you and I

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Speaker 7: to go and buy one today.

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Speaker 7: Hey, lovely to talk to you, and thanks for the reminder.

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Speaker 7: Good luck with that. Nice and slow as the key

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Speaker 7: to it. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

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Speaker 7: I think it might have done too. Anyway, we'll sort

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Speaker 7: that out later on ken A very good morning.

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Speaker 11: Yes, good morning. I've discovered an essential tool for outside

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Speaker 11: It's called paver mate. It's got a wire brush, a

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Speaker 11: the water go through so you don't get poling. You

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Speaker 7: Only for the types of pavers that are designed to

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Speaker 11: dig up you know something that's that's that's waterproof. No, right,

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Speaker 11: pavor mate. There we are fifteen dollars ninety nine from

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Speaker 7: No, I've just done a quick search. Well stone and

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Speaker 11: You could easily ruin it by tackling something which has

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Speaker 7: Tell me about it, and by doing.

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Speaker 11: It, get it, get it, get it clean. Well, I

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Speaker 11: mean you could use it for that, but get it clean,

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Speaker 7: Right, It's quite intant. See now this has added another

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Speaker 7: I agree with you. Weeds can come up overnight and hmm, okay,

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Speaker 7: thank you. I'm going to add that to my list.

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Speaker 7: Thanks Ken, all of this make take care. We can

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Speaker 7: sib if you've got a building question, and that's pretty broad, right,

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Speaker 3: Squeaky door or squeaky floor.

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Speaker 1: Get the right advice from Peter Wolfcare, the resident builder

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Speaker 7: Righty, Oh, if you're into DIY, and you're bound to

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Speaker 7: Hey fantastic too that Marcus actually did get elected to council,

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Speaker 7: cargo as well. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty, let's

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Speaker 7: for those. So thanks very much for your text, Elaine.

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Speaker 7: On that ridio, let's talk to David. Good morning to you,

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Speaker 7: Good morning, Petey.

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Speaker 12: Well, good thanks. During the process of buying a new house,

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Speaker 7: I mean, it seems a little unusual in the sense that,

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Speaker 12: I'm not too sure.

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Speaker 12: Sorry, I should have found out about from my wife.

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Speaker 7: so like, if it looks like a terra cotta tile,

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Speaker 12: I'll check that. As I said, because I'm blind, I

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Speaker 7: I know you can do terracotta tiles without sealing them,

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Speaker 7: I'm just curious as to what.

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Speaker 7: The good thing is if it's a new build, right,

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Speaker 12: What's actually got a request the agent at the moment

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Speaker 7: To be fair, it's a bit of a.

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Speaker 12: Yes all right. Are the builder who checked it as well?

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Speaker 7: So yes, no trouble at all. You take care, good luck,

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Speaker 7: with all the best, David Bobby your new stalk seed

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Speaker 7: b And let me see that's the other text, are

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Speaker 7: excuse me with the new building rules excluding granny flats,

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Speaker 7: I think you probably can. Just check. Eight hundred eighty

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Speaker 10: Hey he is going to pass on Marcus to get

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Speaker 7: Hell right, Hey, good on you taking that approach, because

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Speaker 7: and it won't be So when you did this building work,

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Speaker 7: did you get a building consent for the work?

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Speaker 10: Wait? So it was a master builder that built it.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, I'm sure I've got all the documentation.

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Speaker 7: Okay, Well, it sounds like you. I mean, if you've

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Speaker 7: fifteen years ago, it's touch and go as to whether

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Speaker 7: It's probably been around, but before there.

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Speaker 10: I think this was twenty ten.

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Speaker 7: But okay, all right, well look it's not from our

433
00:24:06,815 --> 00:24:09,415
Speaker 7: point of view, twenty ten's not that long ago, right,

434
00:24:09,775 --> 00:24:13,215
Speaker 7: So let's take that approach and go if you've got

435
00:24:13,215 --> 00:24:17,575
Speaker 7: all of that documentation there, let's assume that you did

436
00:24:17,575 --> 00:24:19,535
Speaker 7: get a building consent for the work at the time,

437
00:24:20,015 --> 00:24:23,495
Speaker 7: that there probably were some inspections that were undertaken if

438
00:24:23,535 --> 00:24:27,415
Speaker 7: you had the work done by an aster builder. So

439
00:24:28,015 --> 00:24:31,655
Speaker 7: what is quite likely is that you end up with

440
00:24:32,215 --> 00:24:34,695
Speaker 7: situation where you get to the final inspection, maybe there's

441
00:24:34,695 --> 00:24:36,975
Speaker 7: a couple of things you need to do. Builders moved

442
00:24:36,975 --> 00:24:39,135
Speaker 7: on to another job, they leave it with you. You

443
00:24:39,255 --> 00:24:42,495
Speaker 7: forget that it's your job, not his job, and so

444
00:24:42,575 --> 00:24:45,135
Speaker 7: it sits in the draw for all of these years.

445
00:24:46,655 --> 00:24:50,855
Speaker 7: I think first up, get if absolutely every piece of

446
00:24:51,375 --> 00:24:54,175
Speaker 7: information that you've got about the project. You could always

447
00:24:54,215 --> 00:24:57,455
Speaker 7: go to counsel and ask for the property file and

448
00:24:57,495 --> 00:25:00,335
Speaker 7: that will show whether or not there is a building consent.

449
00:25:00,415 --> 00:25:02,855
Speaker 7: A shoot, I suspect that there is a building consent

450
00:25:03,295 --> 00:25:06,735
Speaker 7: which may have had a final inspection or not. If

451
00:25:06,735 --> 00:25:09,495
Speaker 7: it either way, you will need to get a new

452
00:25:09,615 --> 00:25:13,815
Speaker 7: final inspection. So a councilor will come out, they'll do

453
00:25:14,135 --> 00:25:17,615
Speaker 7: a new final inspection. Chances are you'll fail on something,

454
00:25:18,095 --> 00:25:21,535
Speaker 7: at which case then you need to get that work remediated,

455
00:25:21,975 --> 00:25:25,335
Speaker 7: and then once that's done, you could apply for a CCC.

456
00:25:25,815 --> 00:25:28,695
Speaker 7: That one of the challenges might be is that typically

457
00:25:28,775 --> 00:25:32,975
Speaker 7: with a CCC application you provide evidence, for example, that

458
00:25:33,135 --> 00:25:35,255
Speaker 7: the plumbing work was done correctly, so it might be

459
00:25:35,255 --> 00:25:39,735
Speaker 7: a PS three from your plumber. You might need a

460
00:25:39,815 --> 00:25:43,095
Speaker 7: joinery certificate, you might need you probably need an electrical

461
00:25:43,135 --> 00:25:47,735
Speaker 7: safety certificate, so a CoA for that COC sorry, and

462
00:25:48,495 --> 00:25:51,055
Speaker 7: there'll be a whole lot of other documentation. If you

463
00:25:51,095 --> 00:25:53,975
Speaker 7: can get all of that and the workers has been

464
00:25:53,975 --> 00:25:58,055
Speaker 7: done to a suitable standard, then you should be able

465
00:25:58,095 --> 00:26:00,935
Speaker 7: to apply for and be granted a CCC if there's

466
00:26:00,975 --> 00:26:04,615
Speaker 7: no significant issues, If all of this sounds like it's

467
00:26:04,615 --> 00:26:08,895
Speaker 7: a little bit too much. Your other option is to

468
00:26:08,975 --> 00:26:12,575
Speaker 7: go to you probably need to contract the services of

469
00:26:12,695 --> 00:26:17,255
Speaker 7: a registered building survey. The building survey will do all

470
00:26:17,295 --> 00:26:19,175
Speaker 7: of those things that I just described, get all the

471
00:26:19,175 --> 00:26:23,735
Speaker 7: documentation together, supervisor final inspection, and make an application for

472
00:26:23,855 --> 00:26:29,935
Speaker 7: CCC and then sort of shadow that through council. And

473
00:26:29,975 --> 00:26:32,615
Speaker 7: I'm sorry that it sounds like a lot of work.

474
00:26:33,615 --> 00:26:36,895
Speaker 7: It might be relatively straightforward or it might be a

475
00:26:36,895 --> 00:26:39,735
Speaker 7: little bit of a torturous path, but either way, getting

476
00:26:39,735 --> 00:26:45,535
Speaker 7: it done does relieve your children of that burden. Also,

477
00:26:45,655 --> 00:26:49,535
Speaker 7: when you're taking a property to market these days without

478
00:26:49,535 --> 00:26:54,735
Speaker 7: a CCC tends to be really problematic. And I must

479
00:26:54,735 --> 00:26:57,375
Speaker 7: admit my attitude. Let's say ten years ago. You know,

480
00:26:57,375 --> 00:26:59,095
Speaker 7: if I was looking at a property that didn't have

481
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Speaker 7: a CCC or someone asked me about it, I'd kind

482
00:27:01,815 --> 00:27:04,255
Speaker 7: of go, oh, look, you know, get it and sort

483
00:27:04,295 --> 00:27:08,015
Speaker 7: it out later on. Now I very much shifted my opinion.

484
00:27:08,375 --> 00:27:10,495
Speaker 7: So if someone says, look, I'm interested in this property

485
00:27:10,535 --> 00:27:14,055
Speaker 7: and it doesn't have a CCC, I go put that

486
00:27:14,295 --> 00:27:18,695
Speaker 7: responsibility back on the vendor. Don't take that responsibility on

487
00:27:18,735 --> 00:27:24,335
Speaker 7: yourself unless you're getting it at a significantly discounted price.

488
00:27:25,135 --> 00:27:27,735
Speaker 10: Well, yes, so I mean it made a good job

489
00:27:27,775 --> 00:27:28,015
Speaker 10: of it.

490
00:27:28,095 --> 00:27:31,095
Speaker 7: So yeah, look and fifteen years ago, and the fact

491
00:27:31,095 --> 00:27:33,415
Speaker 7: that you went with a master builder, they've probably got

492
00:27:33,415 --> 00:27:36,535
Speaker 7: some records. You know, they might still be in business.

493
00:27:37,375 --> 00:27:40,615
Speaker 7: They know they should help you out and in no way.

494
00:27:40,895 --> 00:27:45,295
Speaker 7: And this is often a problem where I think homeowners

495
00:27:45,335 --> 00:27:49,375
Speaker 7: forget that it is unless they've contracted it to someone else,

496
00:27:49,615 --> 00:27:53,495
Speaker 7: it is their responsibility to get the CCC at the

497
00:27:53,615 --> 00:27:57,015
Speaker 7: end of a building project. And I think sometimes Homer,

498
00:27:57,095 --> 00:27:59,455
Speaker 7: I don't know that we've done a great job in

499
00:27:59,535 --> 00:28:04,415
Speaker 7: terms of informing people about their responsibilities. And unless you've

500
00:28:04,615 --> 00:28:08,935
Speaker 7: specifically in your contract said to your main contractor your builder,

501
00:28:09,095 --> 00:28:12,815
Speaker 7: your LBP, hey I want you to get me the CCC,

502
00:28:13,455 --> 00:28:15,855
Speaker 7: it does end up being your responsibility.

503
00:28:15,935 --> 00:28:18,935
Speaker 10: So I'm pretty sure it was more responsibility in there.

504
00:28:19,295 --> 00:28:21,695
Speaker 7: And that's what happens the building.

505
00:28:22,295 --> 00:28:24,735
Speaker 10: It wasn't at different times because I was able to

506
00:28:24,775 --> 00:28:28,015
Speaker 10: still stay living in the house while he was doing it.

507
00:28:28,055 --> 00:28:29,815
Speaker 10: So another building inspector did pop in.

508
00:28:30,095 --> 00:28:31,535
Speaker 9: Yeah, he was the.

509
00:28:32,335 --> 00:28:35,335
Speaker 10: Through several stages. So yeah, that old dig all the

510
00:28:35,375 --> 00:28:36,935
Speaker 10: paperwork out and go through it.

511
00:28:37,095 --> 00:28:40,335
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's really you know, it is just a process thing,

512
00:28:40,455 --> 00:28:43,575
Speaker 7: get the paperwork, get the final inspection done, and just

513
00:28:43,575 --> 00:28:45,335
Speaker 7: just work away at it, work away at it. And

514
00:28:46,135 --> 00:28:49,255
Speaker 7: and but like I say, if it gets to you know,

515
00:28:49,295 --> 00:28:51,935
Speaker 7: maybe an argument with counsel around whether or not something's

516
00:28:52,015 --> 00:28:56,175
Speaker 7: compliant and so on, then you probably will need to

517
00:28:56,255 --> 00:28:59,135
Speaker 7: engage a building surveyor to give you some advice or

518
00:28:59,255 --> 00:29:00,615
Speaker 7: you know, argue your point.

519
00:29:00,655 --> 00:29:02,735
Speaker 10: Really, that's all great.

520
00:29:02,895 --> 00:29:05,135
Speaker 7: Thank you for luck and good on you forgetting it

521
00:29:05,255 --> 00:29:05,815
Speaker 7: sorted out.

522
00:29:06,855 --> 00:29:08,575
Speaker 10: Yeah, thought i'd said one of the kids. When they.

523
00:29:12,935 --> 00:29:22,975
Speaker 7: Will appreciate it, I'm sure take care. Yeah, look, I

524
00:29:23,095 --> 00:29:28,015
Speaker 7: just it's a bit of pot and kettle going on

525
00:29:28,015 --> 00:29:31,695
Speaker 7: in my mind. But the yeah, the reality is that

526
00:29:31,775 --> 00:29:35,215
Speaker 7: in the end, getting a CCC a code compliance certificate

527
00:29:35,255 --> 00:29:37,295
Speaker 7: at the end of a building project that has a

528
00:29:37,295 --> 00:29:41,375
Speaker 7: building consent ultimately is the responsibility of the homeowner. It's

529
00:29:41,415 --> 00:29:46,255
Speaker 7: interesting to see councils in their final inspection and I

530
00:29:46,295 --> 00:29:49,055
Speaker 7: was reading a final inspection report the other day state

531
00:29:49,135 --> 00:29:57,615
Speaker 7: that you must apply within sixty days. And but because

532
00:29:57,775 --> 00:29:59,975
Speaker 7: when I first saw that, and I remember last year

533
00:29:59,975 --> 00:30:01,935
Speaker 7: on the program, someone rang and said, oh, look we've

534
00:30:01,975 --> 00:30:04,655
Speaker 7: just finished this building project. We've passed our final inspection

535
00:30:05,015 --> 00:30:06,535
Speaker 7: and now we've got a letter from count sort of

536
00:30:06,575 --> 00:30:11,415
Speaker 7: demanding essentially that we complete our CCC application within sixty days,

537
00:30:11,775 --> 00:30:15,175
Speaker 7: and I'm like, gosh, that's I'd never at that time,

538
00:30:15,215 --> 00:30:17,815
Speaker 7: I'd never heard of it before. It's obviously something they've

539
00:30:17,855 --> 00:30:24,255
Speaker 7: added into the correspondence around a final inspection. Happy to

540
00:30:24,255 --> 00:30:26,655
Speaker 7: be proven wrong, but I can't actually find anything in

541
00:30:26,775 --> 00:30:30,615
Speaker 7: law that states that you must complete your CCC within

542
00:30:30,655 --> 00:30:34,015
Speaker 7: sixty days. I'd spent a bit of time reading about

543
00:30:34,055 --> 00:30:36,135
Speaker 7: it some time ago. I couldn't find anything in the

544
00:30:36,215 --> 00:30:39,375
Speaker 7: legislation that specified that date. Not saying it's not a

545
00:30:39,375 --> 00:30:42,935
Speaker 7: good idea, I just I wonder whether when councils say that,

546
00:30:43,175 --> 00:30:45,655
Speaker 7: they may or may not be able to back it up,

547
00:30:46,095 --> 00:30:48,375
Speaker 7: and what happens if you don't do it in sixty days,

548
00:30:48,455 --> 00:30:51,615
Speaker 7: and is there a statutory requirement to actually do it

549
00:30:51,655 --> 00:30:53,895
Speaker 7: within sixty days? But either way, it's a good idea.

550
00:30:54,215 --> 00:30:57,375
Speaker 7: If you finish the project, get your final inspection, get

551
00:30:57,415 --> 00:31:01,135
Speaker 7: your CCC in straightaway is the best advice. I think

552
00:31:01,375 --> 00:31:03,735
Speaker 7: it is six forty your news talk CB if you've

553
00:31:03,735 --> 00:31:05,575
Speaker 7: got a question of a building nature, and it could

554
00:31:05,655 --> 00:31:09,175
Speaker 7: be fairly broad, whether it's the rules and the regulations

555
00:31:09,255 --> 00:31:11,335
Speaker 7: or the actual getting in there and getting your hands dirty.

556
00:31:11,655 --> 00:31:13,895
Speaker 7: Give me a call. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty

557
00:31:13,935 --> 00:31:14,695
Speaker 7: is the number.

558
00:31:15,015 --> 00:31:18,895
Speaker 1: Helping you get those DIY projects done right. The resident

559
00:31:18,935 --> 00:31:22,295
Speaker 1: builder with peta wolfcat call, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty,

560
00:31:22,415 --> 00:31:23,455
Speaker 1: youth talk ZB.

561
00:31:24,175 --> 00:31:26,255
Speaker 7: A couple of texts as well. We've got some spare lines,

562
00:31:26,295 --> 00:31:28,375
Speaker 7: so if you'd like to call that has a great

563
00:31:28,375 --> 00:31:31,375
Speaker 7: time to call. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that

564
00:31:31,495 --> 00:31:34,735
Speaker 7: number to call now, morning, Pete. In Auckland, the council

565
00:31:34,815 --> 00:31:37,815
Speaker 7: say apply for a CECC within sixty days or you

566
00:31:37,895 --> 00:31:43,575
Speaker 7: may need another final inspection, which I find a fascinating

567
00:31:43,655 --> 00:31:47,055
Speaker 7: sort of tactic on their part. It's it's kind of like,

568
00:31:47,135 --> 00:31:49,535
Speaker 7: I don't disagree with the sentiment. I think it's a

569
00:31:49,535 --> 00:31:52,295
Speaker 7: good idea to get your CCC in straightaway as soon

570
00:31:52,335 --> 00:31:55,295
Speaker 7: as you've finished your final inspection. But another textra has

571
00:31:55,295 --> 00:31:57,615
Speaker 7: come through and said you've got two years. You have

572
00:31:57,655 --> 00:31:59,935
Speaker 7: to apply for a CECC within two years after the

573
00:31:59,975 --> 00:32:03,935
Speaker 7: work is completed, and I think it's generally accepted that

574
00:32:04,055 --> 00:32:10,015
Speaker 7: after a year you do actually need a new final inspection.

575
00:32:10,095 --> 00:32:16,415
Speaker 7: They won't accept it. So I kind of understand what

576
00:32:17,215 --> 00:32:20,015
Speaker 7: in this sense. All I'm aware of is organ councils

577
00:32:20,015 --> 00:32:22,695
Speaker 7: sort of flexing and going, hey, we're going to tell

578
00:32:22,735 --> 00:32:24,855
Speaker 7: you to do it within sixty days, otherwise you might

579
00:32:24,855 --> 00:32:26,855
Speaker 7: need a final inspection. But I'm not sure if they

580
00:32:27,015 --> 00:32:30,095
Speaker 7: if that's enforceable. I'm sure they've had their legal people

581
00:32:30,135 --> 00:32:32,455
Speaker 7: look at it, but still little bit of a question

582
00:32:32,535 --> 00:32:35,295
Speaker 7: mark in my mind. Here's a great text as well.

583
00:32:35,655 --> 00:32:38,295
Speaker 7: We'll take your calls, so feel free to call through. Oh,

584
00:32:38,335 --> 00:32:41,095
Speaker 7: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Hey, Pete. I lived

585
00:32:41,135 --> 00:32:43,495
Speaker 7: in a small brick unit a number of years ago,

586
00:32:43,535 --> 00:32:48,735
Speaker 7: and the toilet would sometimes back up plumbing systems. By

587
00:32:48,775 --> 00:32:51,015
Speaker 7: the way, folks are not supposed to back up through

588
00:32:51,055 --> 00:32:55,655
Speaker 7: the toilet, right. There are other ways of putting your

589
00:32:55,655 --> 00:32:58,375
Speaker 7: plumbing together to ensure that that doesn't happen, But either way,

590
00:32:58,695 --> 00:33:00,975
Speaker 7: in this instance, this is what happened. I got a

591
00:33:01,015 --> 00:33:03,575
Speaker 7: plumber and then he traced it out to a blocked

592
00:33:03,735 --> 00:33:09,695
Speaker 7: drain on the street due to nappies being put down

593
00:33:10,255 --> 00:33:13,535
Speaker 7: the toilet. A street manhole in my driveway would fill

594
00:33:13,615 --> 00:33:15,895
Speaker 7: up to ten feet high and then flow down to

595
00:33:15,935 --> 00:33:18,575
Speaker 7: my unit. A tool I then used. The reason for

596
00:33:18,615 --> 00:33:22,175
Speaker 7: the text is talking about useful tools The tool I

597
00:33:22,215 --> 00:33:24,695
Speaker 7: then used to lift the manhole and check the levels

598
00:33:24,815 --> 00:33:27,455
Speaker 7: was very useful. It was an L shaped gardening trail

599
00:33:27,495 --> 00:33:30,135
Speaker 7: with a wooden handle that I could hook and uplift

600
00:33:30,175 --> 00:33:35,655
Speaker 7: the manhole for an early warning. Look, I mean there

601
00:33:35,695 --> 00:33:37,855
Speaker 7: are actually proper manhole lifters. It used to be just

602
00:33:37,855 --> 00:33:41,135
Speaker 7: a sort of like a giant key that you put

603
00:33:41,175 --> 00:33:43,775
Speaker 7: in and got underneath a little slot there and you

604
00:33:43,815 --> 00:33:46,335
Speaker 7: could lift up the lid. Now they're kind of there's

605
00:33:46,335 --> 00:33:48,895
Speaker 7: a leverage. There's a tool that allows you to connect

606
00:33:49,135 --> 00:33:53,495
Speaker 7: and then with a handle, apply some force via a

607
00:33:53,575 --> 00:33:56,975
Speaker 7: lever and then lift it out. The other thing is

608
00:33:56,975 --> 00:33:59,775
Speaker 7: for those public ones. Now, once you've done that, there

609
00:33:59,775 --> 00:34:03,855
Speaker 7: should then be another like a basket or a grill

610
00:34:04,015 --> 00:34:06,295
Speaker 7: underneath it to ensure that in the event that allow

611
00:34:06,575 --> 00:34:11,295
Speaker 7: a manhole lid comes away, that someone can't plummet into

612
00:34:11,575 --> 00:34:15,055
Speaker 7: those chambers. So typically nowadays to comply, you need to

613
00:34:15,135 --> 00:34:20,455
Speaker 7: install another layer of protection underneath it. And also just

614
00:34:20,535 --> 00:34:23,135
Speaker 7: if you're wondering whether this could happen to you, typically

615
00:34:23,255 --> 00:34:26,895
Speaker 7: what there should be an overflow relief gully or an

616
00:34:26,895 --> 00:34:29,055
Speaker 7: overflow relief on the outside of the house so that

617
00:34:29,135 --> 00:34:32,855
Speaker 7: if the line out from your place out to the

618
00:34:32,895 --> 00:34:36,975
Speaker 7: mains does block up, it will overflow there, And that's

619
00:34:37,015 --> 00:34:41,215
Speaker 7: a point lower than any other sanitary fixing inside the house. So,

620
00:34:41,335 --> 00:34:43,735
Speaker 7: for example, if you've got a shower on the ground

621
00:34:43,815 --> 00:34:48,615
Speaker 7: floor and the line backs up, it should overflow outside

622
00:34:48,655 --> 00:34:55,175
Speaker 7: of your house at thisg before it overflows in your shower, basically.

623
00:34:55,255 --> 00:34:57,775
Speaker 7: And I'm sure if I ask people to text it,

624
00:34:58,215 --> 00:35:00,455
Speaker 7: i'd get a couple of stories about that where that

625
00:35:00,495 --> 00:35:03,455
Speaker 7: overflow either wasn't there or didn't work for some reason.

626
00:35:04,415 --> 00:35:08,095
Speaker 7: And oh, the next thing, it's all coming out of

627
00:35:08,135 --> 00:35:11,135
Speaker 7: the shower, which wouldn't be a terribly pleasant thing, would it.

628
00:35:11,295 --> 00:35:11,455
Speaker 4: Oh?

629
00:35:11,455 --> 00:35:13,175
Speaker 7: Eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you've got

630
00:35:13,175 --> 00:35:15,655
Speaker 7: a question of a building nature, you should call me

631
00:35:15,815 --> 00:35:19,735
Speaker 7: right now. It is six forty seven here at NEWSTALKSB.

632
00:35:19,655 --> 00:35:21,255
Speaker 3: Measure twice God was.

633
00:35:21,575 --> 00:35:25,135
Speaker 1: But maybe call Pete first, feed you AllCare the resident builder.

634
00:35:25,295 --> 00:35:27,455
Speaker 3: News TALKSB you.

635
00:35:27,455 --> 00:35:29,495
Speaker 7: A news talks HEB. If you've got a question of

636
00:35:29,575 --> 00:35:31,975
Speaker 7: a building nature, give me cool, Pete. If you push

637
00:35:32,055 --> 00:35:34,535
Speaker 7: an outside wall out one point five meters but you

638
00:35:34,575 --> 00:35:38,055
Speaker 7: don't change the roofline, do you need a new code

639
00:35:38,055 --> 00:35:40,295
Speaker 7: of compliance? Thinking of squaring up the corner of a

640
00:35:40,375 --> 00:35:44,215
Speaker 7: house to enclose the verandah, yes, that sort of work

641
00:35:44,255 --> 00:35:50,175
Speaker 7: will require a building consent. So the process is that that.

642
00:35:50,975 --> 00:35:54,495
Speaker 7: So what you can do without necessarily getting a building

643
00:35:54,535 --> 00:35:57,175
Speaker 7: consent is set out in Schedule one of the Building

644
00:35:57,175 --> 00:36:00,735
Speaker 7: Act and it's designed to allow people to do modest

645
00:36:00,775 --> 00:36:05,575
Speaker 7: amounts of work without necessarily requiring a consent. So, for example,

646
00:36:05,615 --> 00:36:08,935
Speaker 7: if you've got a window and you want to change

647
00:36:08,975 --> 00:36:12,575
Speaker 7: that window opening into a door, and you don't need

648
00:36:12,615 --> 00:36:15,855
Speaker 7: to extend the width of the lintel, so you're not

649
00:36:15,975 --> 00:36:19,095
Speaker 7: increasing the width of it. You're simply removing that framing

650
00:36:19,415 --> 00:36:22,295
Speaker 7: from below the window sill down to the floor, taking

651
00:36:22,335 --> 00:36:25,215
Speaker 7: the window out and putting in a door, whether that's

652
00:36:25,295 --> 00:36:27,575
Speaker 7: set of French doors or a single door with a sidelight,

653
00:36:27,655 --> 00:36:29,775
Speaker 7: whatever it's going to be. You can do that work

654
00:36:29,815 --> 00:36:34,935
Speaker 7: without necessarily requiring a building consent as soon as you

655
00:36:35,255 --> 00:36:39,375
Speaker 7: extend the width of the opening, because that will require

656
00:36:39,575 --> 00:36:43,375
Speaker 7: a larger beam, requires some calculations to determine the loading

657
00:36:43,415 --> 00:36:45,855
Speaker 7: on that beam, etc. That triggers a requirement for a

658
00:36:45,855 --> 00:36:48,895
Speaker 7: building consent. That's just a small example of that. So

659
00:36:49,015 --> 00:36:52,375
Speaker 7: I would say in this instance here, it's really around

660
00:36:52,495 --> 00:36:56,735
Speaker 7: the interesting there's not actually a requirement in the Act

661
00:36:56,775 --> 00:36:59,495
Speaker 7: around what they call change of use. We often used

662
00:36:59,495 --> 00:37:02,215
Speaker 7: to talk about garages going from being garages to let's

663
00:37:02,215 --> 00:37:05,215
Speaker 7: say a bedroom as requiring a consent because it's a

664
00:37:05,295 --> 00:37:08,215
Speaker 7: change of use. But I read a very well written

665
00:37:08,255 --> 00:37:12,255
Speaker 7: piece again from Walkan Council about that saying that's actually

666
00:37:12,255 --> 00:37:15,895
Speaker 7: not anything that's in the legislation. But in this instance here,

667
00:37:16,295 --> 00:37:19,375
Speaker 7: because you're going to be taking something that was an

668
00:37:19,375 --> 00:37:22,975
Speaker 7: outside space ie veranda, and turning it into a habitable space,

669
00:37:23,495 --> 00:37:27,175
Speaker 7: then it will need to be safe and secure. It'll

670
00:37:27,215 --> 00:37:30,735
Speaker 7: need to have the insulation in it. It changes the

671
00:37:30,815 --> 00:37:34,535
Speaker 7: footprint of the house without necessarily extending it, but it

672
00:37:34,575 --> 00:37:38,175
Speaker 7: does change it. Yes, I think that work would require

673
00:37:38,255 --> 00:37:41,135
Speaker 7: a building consent. And the other thing is, you know,

674
00:37:41,175 --> 00:37:43,415
Speaker 7: if you do that sort of work and there's no

675
00:37:43,615 --> 00:37:47,615
Speaker 7: paper trail to determine what materials you used, what contractors

676
00:37:47,615 --> 00:37:51,135
Speaker 7: you used, and so on, there's an uncertainty in a

677
00:37:51,335 --> 00:37:54,175
Speaker 7: buyer's mind when you come to sell the house too.

678
00:37:54,335 --> 00:37:58,455
Speaker 7: So having a building consent offers up that surety to

679
00:37:59,095 --> 00:38:02,175
Speaker 7: a prospective new owner that the work was done in

680
00:38:02,215 --> 00:38:04,855
Speaker 7: accordance with the building code, that it's safe and secure,

681
00:38:04,895 --> 00:38:08,015
Speaker 7: et cetera. Et cetera, et cetera. So yeah, I think

682
00:38:08,015 --> 00:38:11,535
Speaker 7: that that work probably requires a building consent. The other

683
00:38:11,575 --> 00:38:15,535
Speaker 7: option is that you can do You can go to

684
00:38:15,575 --> 00:38:19,095
Speaker 7: council and in some cases apply for a dispensation. So

685
00:38:19,975 --> 00:38:23,095
Speaker 7: go to them, explain what you're going to do, and

686
00:38:23,175 --> 00:38:25,455
Speaker 7: in some cases they might be able to issue a

687
00:38:25,535 --> 00:38:29,855
Speaker 7: letter that says this work we believe doesn't require a

688
00:38:29,855 --> 00:38:32,615
Speaker 7: building consent and gives you an exemption. But again, it's

689
00:38:32,655 --> 00:38:39,375
Speaker 7: all about the paper trail, and this is legend. Pete

690
00:38:39,415 --> 00:38:42,415
Speaker 7: says the Texter. Read the CCC. I also missed my

691
00:38:42,495 --> 00:38:46,015
Speaker 7: inspection six years ago as my wife was going through chemo.

692
00:38:46,215 --> 00:38:48,135
Speaker 7: I hope it alls well. So I thought I was

693
00:38:48,135 --> 00:38:51,255
Speaker 7: a bit screwed, but your last call reassured me. Read

694
00:38:51,295 --> 00:38:54,575
Speaker 7: the CCC, I also missed it. Yeah, so hey, look,

695
00:38:54,615 --> 00:38:57,975
Speaker 7: I think there's an opportunity there to get those sorts

696
00:38:58,015 --> 00:39:01,415
Speaker 7: of things sorted. Doesn't necessarily make it easy to be fair,

697
00:39:02,415 --> 00:39:06,335
Speaker 7: you know, if you've delayed the CCC. Council can be

698
00:39:06,415 --> 00:39:09,015
Speaker 7: a little bit reluctant, can be a little bit cautious

699
00:39:11,095 --> 00:39:13,855
Speaker 7: for good reason probably, So the best thing to do

700
00:39:13,975 --> 00:39:19,295
Speaker 7: always is to get it done as quickly as possible. Yes,

701
00:39:20,535 --> 00:39:22,015
Speaker 7: there's a bit more of a story to that, so

702
00:39:22,055 --> 00:39:26,935
Speaker 7: two years apparently to do the CCC. What else have

703
00:39:26,975 --> 00:39:30,335
Speaker 7: we got for you this morning, Pete? Are you aware

704
00:39:30,535 --> 00:39:34,935
Speaker 7: of anyone who recoats kitchen benches with a eurothane product,

705
00:39:34,975 --> 00:39:38,655
Speaker 7: which I've been told can make it look like granite.

706
00:39:40,815 --> 00:39:45,135
Speaker 7: I do have a vague recollection of a product that

707
00:39:45,175 --> 00:39:47,375
Speaker 7: you could apply. You could even do it yourself. Actually

708
00:39:48,015 --> 00:39:49,335
Speaker 7: it was a couple of years ago, so I'm not

709
00:39:49,375 --> 00:39:53,775
Speaker 7: sure if it's still around to apply over the top

710
00:39:53,815 --> 00:39:56,735
Speaker 7: of existing surfaces. And yes, it would give you sort

711
00:39:56,775 --> 00:40:00,655
Speaker 7: of a stone slash granite type of pearance. I'll do

712
00:40:00,655 --> 00:40:02,855
Speaker 7: a bit of search during the break and see if

713
00:40:02,895 --> 00:40:05,295
Speaker 7: I can find that for you as well. But I

714
00:40:05,295 --> 00:40:11,455
Speaker 7: think it's still out there. Oh, quite a lot of

715
00:40:11,455 --> 00:40:15,535
Speaker 7: detail around tiny homes and so on. I'm going to

716
00:40:15,655 --> 00:40:18,495
Speaker 7: do that one after the break, because we've got New

717
00:40:18,535 --> 00:40:21,575
Speaker 7: Sport and Weather coming up at around seven o'clock. Well

718
00:40:21,615 --> 00:40:24,015
Speaker 7: not actually around seven o'clock. Bang on seven o'clock. Let's

719
00:40:24,055 --> 00:40:27,895
Speaker 7: do it. Then we will continue with your calls after

720
00:40:28,255 --> 00:40:30,855
Speaker 7: New Sport and Weather. Actually we might have time. We'll

721
00:40:30,855 --> 00:40:33,135
Speaker 7: start with this text and I'll deal with it after

722
00:40:33,175 --> 00:40:35,775
Speaker 7: the break. Morning Pete. Looks like the new relaxation of

723
00:40:35,815 --> 00:40:39,215
Speaker 7: the building compliance for Granni Flat's tiny homes under seventy

724
00:40:39,295 --> 00:40:44,895
Speaker 7: square meters is currently is underway. So currently it says

725
00:40:44,935 --> 00:40:48,255
Speaker 7: the building needs to be two meters away from the boundary.

726
00:40:48,575 --> 00:40:52,095
Speaker 7: Does this mean that the forty five degree angle calculation

727
00:40:52,295 --> 00:40:56,735
Speaker 7: currently being used will not apply? Our concept engineering d

728
00:40:57,215 --> 00:41:00,215
Speaker 7: drawings for the placement of a fifty two square meter

729
00:41:00,575 --> 00:41:04,055
Speaker 7: tiny home or simple standalone dwelling from an our engineering

730
00:41:04,095 --> 00:41:07,535
Speaker 7: company doing the drawing shows that one corner is not compliant,

731
00:41:07,575 --> 00:41:10,575
Speaker 7: and that's based on it being one point one meters

732
00:41:10,655 --> 00:41:13,575
Speaker 7: away and the forty five degrees from the boundary. I

733
00:41:13,575 --> 00:41:17,855
Speaker 7: have requested they redo it at two meters and wait

734
00:41:17,895 --> 00:41:20,775
Speaker 7: for the new rules to be compliant. Why would this

735
00:41:20,815 --> 00:41:24,495
Speaker 7: company not do it based on the new drawings. You'll

736
00:41:24,535 --> 00:41:27,375
Speaker 7: have to go back and chat with them around why

737
00:41:27,415 --> 00:41:30,895
Speaker 7: they made those particular choices, bearing in mind it's not

738
00:41:31,095 --> 00:41:31,775
Speaker 7: law yet.

739
00:41:31,935 --> 00:41:35,295
Speaker 3: Back after the news doing on the house storting the garden,

740
00:41:35,375 --> 00:41:38,455
Speaker 3: asked Pete for a hand the resident builder with Peter

741
00:41:38,575 --> 00:41:42,775
Speaker 3: Wolfcap call OH eight eight eighty NEWSTALGZB.

742
00:41:42,735 --> 00:41:45,455
Speaker 7: EO a news TALKZB open line on all things building

743
00:41:45,535 --> 00:41:47,615
Speaker 7: and construction. Give me a call right now, Oh, eight

744
00:41:47,695 --> 00:41:52,055
Speaker 7: hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call by

745
00:41:52,095 --> 00:41:54,615
Speaker 7: all means you can fleck through a text that's nine

746
00:41:54,695 --> 00:41:57,575
Speaker 7: two ninety two or zbzb from your phone and if

747
00:41:57,575 --> 00:42:00,415
Speaker 7: you'd like to email me, it's Pete at newstalksb dot

748
00:42:00,415 --> 00:42:04,135
Speaker 7: co dot NZ. So just prior to that break, we

749
00:42:04,375 --> 00:42:10,015
Speaker 7: started talking about that decent long text with regard to

750
00:42:10,095 --> 00:42:12,375
Speaker 7: being two meters away from the boundary, et cetera, et cetera,

751
00:42:12,415 --> 00:42:17,695
Speaker 7: et cetera. We're sticking with the current rules. I think

752
00:42:17,735 --> 00:42:20,575
Speaker 7: the really hard thing is that until we see it

753
00:42:20,615 --> 00:42:23,415
Speaker 7: in legislation, everything that we're talking about at the moment

754
00:42:23,655 --> 00:42:28,615
Speaker 7: is a proposal, and it may well change between now

755
00:42:28,695 --> 00:42:30,815
Speaker 7: and we interviewed. Chris Pink was in the studio a

756
00:42:30,855 --> 00:42:35,855
Speaker 7: couple of weeks ago talking about in particular these what

757
00:42:35,895 --> 00:42:40,335
Speaker 7: they're calling SSD so simple standalone dwellings which will be

758
00:42:40,615 --> 00:42:44,175
Speaker 7: up to seventy square meters. You still need to inform

759
00:42:44,295 --> 00:42:46,815
Speaker 7: the council of what you're doing, and that's where perhaps

760
00:42:46,855 --> 00:42:50,335
Speaker 7: your issue around one corner of it being one point

761
00:42:50,415 --> 00:42:52,855
Speaker 7: one meters away from the boundary and the rest of

762
00:42:52,895 --> 00:42:56,175
Speaker 7: the building being more than two meters away. You may well,

763
00:42:56,255 --> 00:42:59,415
Speaker 7: get a dispensation for example for that. So typically if

764
00:42:59,415 --> 00:43:02,015
Speaker 7: it's less than a meter from the boundary, there's a

765
00:43:02,095 --> 00:43:05,295
Speaker 7: requirement for fire rating to ensure that if that building

766
00:43:06,935 --> 00:43:10,935
Speaker 7: fires up, that it won't or it's less likely to

767
00:43:11,015 --> 00:43:16,615
Speaker 7: impact a neighbor. So one point one meters technically means

768
00:43:16,615 --> 00:43:19,335
Speaker 7: that that's outside of that space, and if the rest

769
00:43:19,375 --> 00:43:22,175
Speaker 7: of the building is orientated further away, if it's not

770
00:43:22,295 --> 00:43:26,055
Speaker 7: parallel to the boundary, then you know the risk is smalling.

771
00:43:26,055 --> 00:43:29,255
Speaker 7: Council might accept that, but it becomes a planning question

772
00:43:29,775 --> 00:43:33,295
Speaker 7: rather than an actual building consent question as such. So

773
00:43:34,855 --> 00:43:37,975
Speaker 7: I think it's really important because I've heard from other

774
00:43:38,015 --> 00:43:42,415
Speaker 7: people as well that clients are requesting builders to start

775
00:43:42,455 --> 00:43:45,975
Speaker 7: building these now, and right now, you still require a

776
00:43:46,015 --> 00:43:49,215
Speaker 7: building consent for that type of work, So until it

777
00:43:49,255 --> 00:43:53,055
Speaker 7: becomes law, you still need to get a building consent.

778
00:43:53,175 --> 00:43:56,775
Speaker 7: Once it becomes law, which might be sometime, might be

779
00:43:56,855 --> 00:43:58,695
Speaker 7: towards the end of this year, but more likely to

780
00:43:58,735 --> 00:44:02,375
Speaker 7: be I think early next year, you just have to

781
00:44:02,415 --> 00:44:07,695
Speaker 7: hold fire on that. Very interesting to see how this goes.

782
00:44:07,695 --> 00:44:09,615
Speaker 7: It'd be really interesting to see what the demand is.

783
00:44:10,055 --> 00:44:12,135
Speaker 7: The other thing I've been thinking about with regard to

784
00:44:12,175 --> 00:44:17,015
Speaker 7: this in terms of, you know, sort of essentially not

785
00:44:17,135 --> 00:44:20,135
Speaker 7: having to get a building consent, and that should speed

786
00:44:20,215 --> 00:44:22,535
Speaker 7: things up, or that should make it easier to build,

787
00:44:22,535 --> 00:44:26,295
Speaker 7: et cetera, et cetera. Is I wonder whether people will

788
00:44:27,295 --> 00:44:31,575
Speaker 7: possibly ultimately choose to get a building consent for the

789
00:44:31,815 --> 00:44:37,535
Speaker 7: surety that that provides to a new purchaser when eventually

790
00:44:37,575 --> 00:44:41,255
Speaker 7: they go and sell that property. And you know, people

791
00:44:41,295 --> 00:44:44,935
Speaker 7: can hold onto property for a while, but very rare

792
00:44:44,975 --> 00:44:47,975
Speaker 7: that someone holds onto it forever. Right, So ultimately it's

793
00:44:48,015 --> 00:44:50,775
Speaker 7: going to get sold, at which time an eager eyed

794
00:44:50,855 --> 00:44:52,735
Speaker 7: lawyer is going to look through it and go, ah,

795
00:44:52,815 --> 00:44:55,095
Speaker 7: do you realize that you've got a building in your

796
00:44:55,135 --> 00:44:58,095
Speaker 7: backyard that doesn't have building consent? And even if you

797
00:44:58,135 --> 00:45:01,775
Speaker 7: could say yep, it didn't need one, would how would

798
00:45:01,855 --> 00:45:06,575
Speaker 7: you then prove that it is compliant with the building code,

799
00:45:07,055 --> 00:45:10,215
Speaker 7: that it's going to be a safe and sound building

800
00:45:10,775 --> 00:45:16,775
Speaker 7: if you don't have a building consent. And it's on

801
00:45:16,815 --> 00:45:18,575
Speaker 7: my to do list of this week is to go

802
00:45:18,655 --> 00:45:21,975
Speaker 7: to let's say some building surveys and go, if you

803
00:45:22,055 --> 00:45:26,335
Speaker 7: were to do inspections and provide a statement at the

804
00:45:26,455 --> 00:45:29,695
Speaker 7: end to say that this building is compliant with the

805
00:45:29,695 --> 00:45:33,335
Speaker 7: building code, what would that cost and would that necessarily

806
00:45:33,375 --> 00:45:37,695
Speaker 7: be cheaper than getting a building consent. It's going to

807
00:45:37,735 --> 00:45:40,055
Speaker 7: be a really interesting time coming up in the next week.

808
00:45:40,095 --> 00:45:42,975
Speaker 7: While oh wait, as it always is ten minutes after

809
00:45:43,055 --> 00:45:44,895
Speaker 7: seven you with peat Wolf Camp News Talk, se'd be

810
00:45:45,055 --> 00:45:47,455
Speaker 7: remember in the next hour we're actually going to be

811
00:45:47,855 --> 00:45:53,455
Speaker 7: talking with the winner of this week's Master Builders Apprentice

812
00:45:53,535 --> 00:45:56,455
Speaker 7: of the Year awards. So that I went out and

813
00:45:56,495 --> 00:45:59,815
Speaker 7: had to look at the practical challenge on Thursday. That

814
00:45:59,935 --> 00:46:02,855
Speaker 7: was really awesome. Then they do a series of interviews

815
00:46:02,855 --> 00:46:04,615
Speaker 7: on the Friday, and then the gala dinner was on

816
00:46:04,695 --> 00:46:07,775
Speaker 7: Friday night, and so we're talking to the master Builders

817
00:46:07,775 --> 00:46:10,775
Speaker 7: Apprentice of the Year, newly crowned. Do you get a crown?

818
00:46:10,855 --> 00:46:15,095
Speaker 7: I don't think so, but newly appointed Master Builders Apprentice

819
00:46:15,135 --> 00:46:17,215
Speaker 7: of the Year after eight o'clock this morning. Really looking

820
00:46:17,215 --> 00:46:19,335
Speaker 7: forward to that if you've got a question, Oh, eight

821
00:46:19,495 --> 00:46:22,335
Speaker 7: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number. Also a couple

822
00:46:22,375 --> 00:46:26,655
Speaker 7: of texts about earthquake strengthening and this is going to

823
00:46:26,695 --> 00:46:30,975
Speaker 7: have a significant impact, I think on people that might

824
00:46:31,135 --> 00:46:35,455
Speaker 7: own maybe old, well certainly older buildings, older masonry buildings,

825
00:46:35,535 --> 00:46:40,695
Speaker 7: older shop buildings, main streets and older parts of town.

826
00:46:41,535 --> 00:46:44,295
Speaker 7: So somewhere like Auckland where there's been a tremendous amount

827
00:46:44,295 --> 00:46:48,255
Speaker 7: of uncertainty as to the value of the building, given

828
00:46:48,295 --> 00:46:52,735
Speaker 7: that it would require significant seismic upgrade to get close

829
00:46:52,775 --> 00:46:56,815
Speaker 7: to new building code that seems to have been that

830
00:46:56,975 --> 00:47:00,295
Speaker 7: was changed, and I think it's a practical response to

831
00:47:00,935 --> 00:47:04,935
Speaker 7: what seems like a relatively low risk. Just on that

832
00:47:04,935 --> 00:47:07,455
Speaker 7: one quickly before we go to Graham Pete. Major problem

833
00:47:07,495 --> 00:47:11,575
Speaker 7: in the earthquake strengthening of Auckland costs so far five

834
00:47:11,655 --> 00:47:14,655
Speaker 7: hundred thousand dollars for each owner construction? What another one

835
00:47:14,735 --> 00:47:17,735
Speaker 7: hundred thousand dollars? What happens now that Auckland is no

836
00:47:17,815 --> 00:47:21,055
Speaker 7: longer on the register? Do they have to complete the

837
00:47:21,095 --> 00:47:24,975
Speaker 7: contract regardless? Can something be recovered? Will they still demand

838
00:47:24,975 --> 00:47:28,415
Speaker 7: a one hundred thousand dollars for a half done job? Gay,

839
00:47:28,615 --> 00:47:32,335
Speaker 7: That's a vastly complicated series of circumstances that you've just

840
00:47:32,415 --> 00:47:35,655
Speaker 7: outlined there. I think it's probably going to end up

841
00:47:35,655 --> 00:47:38,095
Speaker 7: with your lawyers. Is there going to be some compenation

842
00:47:38,375 --> 00:47:43,095
Speaker 7: for building owners that have undertaken earthquake strengthening that maybe

843
00:47:43,215 --> 00:47:46,695
Speaker 7: now wouldn't need to have done. It can't imagine. So

844
00:47:47,895 --> 00:47:50,575
Speaker 7: I just can't imagine. So is it a good thing

845
00:47:50,575 --> 00:47:56,055
Speaker 7: that you've done the work? Yes, it probably is. But

846
00:47:56,175 --> 00:47:58,655
Speaker 7: I can also understand that if you've committed yourself to

847
00:47:58,695 --> 00:48:01,455
Speaker 7: doing that work and now realize that perhaps you didn't

848
00:48:01,495 --> 00:48:04,615
Speaker 7: need to do all of that work, there would be

849
00:48:04,615 --> 00:48:07,375
Speaker 7: a certain sense of frustration. Oh eight one hundred eighty

850
00:48:07,415 --> 00:48:09,495
Speaker 7: ten eighty the number Graham, Good morning to you.

851
00:48:10,935 --> 00:48:12,215
Speaker 13: Yeah, good, good morning. Peat.

852
00:48:13,655 --> 00:48:15,735
Speaker 11: I was just listening to you talking to those.

853
00:48:15,575 --> 00:48:20,295
Speaker 13: Guys about the code of compliance and so forth, and

854
00:48:20,415 --> 00:48:23,775
Speaker 13: I thought myself, stress, that's interesting. So I bought a

855
00:48:24,335 --> 00:48:28,415
Speaker 13: property a few years back off the Estates. That was

856
00:48:28,455 --> 00:48:30,815
Speaker 13: the place that we grew up and we were kids.

857
00:48:30,855 --> 00:48:36,655
Speaker 13: The old farm now the houses was built in nineteen

858
00:48:36,695 --> 00:48:37,255
Speaker 13: eighty one.

859
00:48:38,415 --> 00:48:40,455
Speaker 5: And I was just.

860
00:48:40,375 --> 00:48:42,375
Speaker 13: Going through the notes, and I've got the plans. I've

861
00:48:42,415 --> 00:48:45,775
Speaker 13: got all hand drawn plans. I've got all the handwritten

862
00:48:45,815 --> 00:48:50,375
Speaker 13: notes from the plumbers and the builder, and all the

863
00:48:50,415 --> 00:48:53,535
Speaker 13: expenses what it will cost. But there's nothing to do

864
00:48:53,655 --> 00:49:01,095
Speaker 13: with council paperwork once soever. So before I opened a huge.

865
00:49:02,135 --> 00:49:11,775
Speaker 7: Council So yeah, all right, put your feet up, you've

866
00:49:11,775 --> 00:49:16,335
Speaker 7: got nothing more to do. So what you'll find is

867
00:49:16,375 --> 00:49:18,735
Speaker 7: that if that work was done in nineteen eighty one,

868
00:49:19,335 --> 00:49:24,375
Speaker 7: it would have a building permit. Building permits didn't require

869
00:49:24,415 --> 00:49:29,295
Speaker 7: and don't require today CCC. So what happened is in

870
00:49:29,335 --> 00:49:34,335
Speaker 7: the early nineteen nineties we change the Building Act to

871
00:49:34,535 --> 00:49:40,495
Speaker 7: introduce building consents, so BC so building consents were introduced.

872
00:49:40,975 --> 00:49:45,055
Speaker 7: Building consents then had attached to them a requirement to

873
00:49:45,095 --> 00:49:49,855
Speaker 7: get a Code Compliance Certificate a CCC, so work done

874
00:49:49,975 --> 00:49:54,495
Speaker 7: prior to them doesn't require them. So that's the short answer.

875
00:49:54,655 --> 00:49:57,495
Speaker 7: You just don't need work for that time. Now, if

876
00:49:57,535 --> 00:50:00,975
Speaker 7: there's any subsequent work that might have been done and

877
00:50:01,015 --> 00:50:03,255
Speaker 7: it had a building consent and the building consent doesn't

878
00:50:03,255 --> 00:50:05,895
Speaker 7: have a CCC, that's a different story. But there is

879
00:50:05,935 --> 00:50:09,215
Speaker 7: a very very clear cutoff point at which time things

880
00:50:09,215 --> 00:50:11,815
Speaker 7: that got building permits don't require them. Things that got

881
00:50:11,815 --> 00:50:12,815
Speaker 7: building consents do.

882
00:50:14,895 --> 00:50:15,095
Speaker 6: Right.

883
00:50:16,175 --> 00:50:19,895
Speaker 13: So, for instance, I've just put a new roof on

884
00:50:19,975 --> 00:50:24,335
Speaker 13: the house. Now, the roofing guys, no one ever mentioned

885
00:50:24,375 --> 00:50:29,095
Speaker 13: anything about getting counsel approval. I just rang a bunch

886
00:50:29,135 --> 00:50:32,095
Speaker 13: of roofing company. They or Camenon did quote, and then

887
00:50:32,535 --> 00:50:33,775
Speaker 13: one of them, Kemon, did the job.

888
00:50:33,975 --> 00:50:36,855
Speaker 7: So what you took off is what you put back on.

889
00:50:38,095 --> 00:50:41,615
Speaker 13: No I had dipramatic tiles and now I've got long run.

890
00:50:41,815 --> 00:50:48,375
Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, there's some If my mate's listening, who's a

891
00:50:48,375 --> 00:50:50,775
Speaker 7: building server, he will text me and say you should

892
00:50:50,775 --> 00:50:54,135
Speaker 7: have had a building consent for that. And part of

893
00:50:54,175 --> 00:50:59,135
Speaker 7: it is about while they're both technically lightweight roofs, the

894
00:50:59,175 --> 00:51:04,135
Speaker 7: fact is the fixings are different. Right, So to prevent

895
00:51:04,295 --> 00:51:08,175
Speaker 7: uplift today, when you fixed a perlin onto a truss,

896
00:51:08,575 --> 00:51:13,015
Speaker 7: there's a particular requirement for hold downs. That's either going

897
00:51:13,055 --> 00:51:15,935
Speaker 7: to be like a blue screw or a Z nail.

898
00:51:15,975 --> 00:51:18,855
Speaker 7: I suppose you could do or I noticed the pasload

899
00:51:18,895 --> 00:51:21,295
Speaker 7: guys have got some special nails now that if you

900
00:51:21,335 --> 00:51:24,895
Speaker 7: put fire three of those down, that will give you

901
00:51:24,975 --> 00:51:29,575
Speaker 7: the hold down required. So, because it's then a structural

902
00:51:29,615 --> 00:51:32,655
Speaker 7: element to the building, that part of it would trigger

903
00:51:32,695 --> 00:51:35,455
Speaker 7: the requirement for a building consent. So if you can

904
00:51:35,655 --> 00:51:39,015
Speaker 7: prove that your contractors were aware of that, So what

905
00:51:39,055 --> 00:51:42,455
Speaker 7: would have happened is taken the dechromastic off, they would

906
00:51:42,455 --> 00:51:45,415
Speaker 7: have taken the batons off maybe or they've left them

907
00:51:45,415 --> 00:51:48,575
Speaker 7: in place, added new perlins three to two perlins and

908
00:51:48,655 --> 00:51:50,855
Speaker 7: those would have needed to be fixed down in accordance

909
00:51:50,855 --> 00:51:52,815
Speaker 7: to the building code. And then there would be some

910
00:51:52,895 --> 00:51:55,295
Speaker 7: building paper or some roofing paper and then the iron

911
00:51:55,375 --> 00:52:00,535
Speaker 7: over the top of it. So yeah, technically that might

912
00:52:00,575 --> 00:52:01,495
Speaker 7: have a require a building.

913
00:52:03,415 --> 00:52:08,415
Speaker 13: So if I have a signed contract with a like

914
00:52:08,495 --> 00:52:13,895
Speaker 13: a reputable building company that's done the job, yep, and

915
00:52:15,015 --> 00:52:18,495
Speaker 13: what do I need to notify the council myself and go, oh,

916
00:52:18,535 --> 00:52:19,815
Speaker 13: by the way, this has got done.

917
00:52:20,215 --> 00:52:23,775
Speaker 7: Yes, I tell you what. You raise a really interesting issue. So,

918
00:52:23,935 --> 00:52:28,015
Speaker 7: for example, if the roofing contractor is a licensed building practitioner,

919
00:52:28,575 --> 00:52:33,615
Speaker 7: which I presume they probably are, then under the Code

920
00:52:33,615 --> 00:52:36,255
Speaker 7: of Ethics for LBPS, which has been in place for

921
00:52:36,295 --> 00:52:40,175
Speaker 7: almost three years now, there is a requirement to act

922
00:52:40,255 --> 00:52:44,455
Speaker 7: professionally right, to give professional advice and to work within

923
00:52:44,495 --> 00:52:47,135
Speaker 7: the law. Now, I would have thought that by now

924
00:52:47,335 --> 00:52:49,815
Speaker 7: roofers would have sat down and said to each other

925
00:52:50,415 --> 00:52:52,495
Speaker 7: and to the if they're a part of the Roofing

926
00:52:52,535 --> 00:52:55,495
Speaker 7: Association or something like that, hey, look, you know, in

927
00:52:55,535 --> 00:52:58,815
Speaker 7: what instances do we need to offer professional advice to

928
00:52:58,855 --> 00:53:01,335
Speaker 7: a homeowner to say, hey, I'd love to come and

929
00:53:01,375 --> 00:53:03,615
Speaker 7: do the job. But by the way, it does require

930
00:53:03,615 --> 00:53:08,095
Speaker 7: a building consent, rather than just doing work possibly knowing

931
00:53:08,175 --> 00:53:11,415
Speaker 7: that it did need a building consent, but not advising

932
00:53:11,495 --> 00:53:16,615
Speaker 7: the homeowner of their responsibilities under the Building Act. So

933
00:53:16,655 --> 00:53:19,495
Speaker 7: that that's an interesting kind of debate that we could

934
00:53:19,575 --> 00:53:23,535
Speaker 7: be having at the moment around you know, I think

935
00:53:23,535 --> 00:53:26,855
Speaker 7: that as LBPS, if we're asked to do work that

936
00:53:26,895 --> 00:53:30,615
Speaker 7: we know requires a building consent, but we decide not

937
00:53:30,735 --> 00:53:33,495
Speaker 7: to get one or not to advise clients about doing it,

938
00:53:33,815 --> 00:53:36,935
Speaker 7: I think we're in breach of the Code of Ethics.

939
00:53:38,975 --> 00:53:44,015
Speaker 7: When did you have to work done well? I suppose

940
00:53:44,055 --> 00:53:48,175
Speaker 7: as a homeowner you have a responsibility, but then you know,

941
00:53:48,255 --> 00:53:51,255
Speaker 7: as a homeowner that's perhaps not o fay with the

942
00:53:51,255 --> 00:53:55,895
Speaker 7: Building Act. You rely on the professional advice of contractors

943
00:53:55,935 --> 00:53:58,855
Speaker 7: that you employ. And as part of the introduction of

944
00:53:58,895 --> 00:54:02,375
Speaker 7: the Code of Ethics for LBPS, it sets a standard

945
00:54:02,495 --> 00:54:05,175
Speaker 7: for how we should behave and one of those things

946
00:54:05,295 --> 00:54:11,815
Speaker 7: is around professional standards and around offering professional advice to

947
00:54:11,935 --> 00:54:16,335
Speaker 7: our clients and if they were aware and look, times

948
00:54:16,375 --> 00:54:19,495
Speaker 7: are tight, right, so people will be doing work at

949
00:54:19,495 --> 00:54:22,775
Speaker 7: the moment that they probably shouldn't do without a consent

950
00:54:22,815 --> 00:54:23,895
Speaker 7: and all the rest of it because they want to

951
00:54:23,975 --> 00:54:27,095
Speaker 7: keep working. I understand that, but it doesn't take away

952
00:54:27,175 --> 00:54:30,295
Speaker 7: from our new responsibilities under the Code of Ethics to

953
00:54:30,615 --> 00:54:32,415
Speaker 7: act responsibly.

954
00:54:34,055 --> 00:54:42,295
Speaker 13: Yea, And yeah, being responsible would be telling the customer

955
00:54:42,695 --> 00:54:45,455
Speaker 13: what is required. I guess that's what they're right, So.

956
00:54:45,855 --> 00:54:49,535
Speaker 7: That's kind of how I see it, and it's she

957
00:54:49,655 --> 00:54:53,975
Speaker 7: I've got there. You go surprisingly organized today. So I've

958
00:54:54,015 --> 00:54:57,535
Speaker 7: got the Code of Ethics in front of me, and

959
00:55:00,175 --> 00:55:04,735
Speaker 7: work safely, act within the law, take responsibility for your actions,

960
00:55:04,855 --> 00:55:08,775
Speaker 7: behave professionally. Those are the four key areas, and then

961
00:55:08,935 --> 00:55:13,255
Speaker 7: underneath that there's kind of a summary of about nineteen

962
00:55:13,375 --> 00:55:20,175
Speaker 7: different points. So yeah, I think that in that, Yeah,

963
00:55:20,255 --> 00:55:25,215
Speaker 7: you must comply with the law. So the building Code,

964
00:55:25,615 --> 00:55:28,615
Speaker 7: those sorts of things. We have a duty to report

965
00:55:28,655 --> 00:55:33,255
Speaker 7: breaches of that as well. As an LBP. Now we've

966
00:55:33,255 --> 00:55:36,695
Speaker 7: got to explain risks. Be knowledgeable about what you are

967
00:55:36,735 --> 00:55:39,455
Speaker 7: allowed to do. And I'm reading this directly from section three.

968
00:55:39,935 --> 00:55:42,095
Speaker 7: Make sure you know what is expected of you as

969
00:55:42,095 --> 00:55:45,455
Speaker 7: an LBP, in particular what your license class permits you

970
00:55:45,495 --> 00:55:49,095
Speaker 7: to do when conducting or supervising restricted building work. Carrying

971
00:55:49,135 --> 00:55:51,655
Speaker 7: out or supervising work that you are not licensed to

972
00:55:51,695 --> 00:55:57,775
Speaker 7: do may also breach that section. Duty to inform and

973
00:55:58,055 --> 00:56:03,175
Speaker 7: educate a client. Be accountable. Now, this is all stuff

974
00:56:03,255 --> 00:56:06,135
Speaker 7: now that's available. You can find this in five s

975
00:56:06,375 --> 00:56:09,495
Speaker 7: can is flat on the on the old interweb around

976
00:56:09,535 --> 00:56:15,775
Speaker 7: what their responsibilities are. So yeah, all right.

977
00:56:15,775 --> 00:56:24,015
Speaker 13: Yeah, well it's just literally done now oh well okay,

978
00:56:24,695 --> 00:56:26,615
Speaker 13: so yeah.

979
00:56:26,535 --> 00:56:28,895
Speaker 7: Now someone's text me and said, hey, look, you need

980
00:56:28,935 --> 00:56:31,935
Speaker 7: to get up to date with schedule one. No consent

981
00:56:32,095 --> 00:56:35,775
Speaker 7: required with that reroof light weight for light weight with

982
00:56:35,895 --> 00:56:40,095
Speaker 7: no consent required with respect to the person at text.

983
00:56:40,295 --> 00:56:42,935
Speaker 7: I'm not sure that everyone would agree with you, and

984
00:56:43,015 --> 00:56:44,775
Speaker 7: I'm sure that I'm going to get a text from

985
00:56:45,815 --> 00:56:49,375
Speaker 7: guys that I know who are building surveys going, because like,

986
00:56:49,455 --> 00:56:51,655
Speaker 7: if you had a Corrigo iron roof and you remove

987
00:56:51,735 --> 00:56:54,055
Speaker 7: the iron and you put new iron on, I think

988
00:56:54,095 --> 00:56:58,095
Speaker 7: that is like for like unfortunately, I think that taking

989
00:56:58,775 --> 00:57:02,535
Speaker 7: dechromastic roof off, which is relatively lightweight, but then having

990
00:57:02,575 --> 00:57:05,895
Speaker 7: to do the perlins, and the perlins are specifically designed

991
00:57:05,895 --> 00:57:10,655
Speaker 7: to prevent uplift, then that does trigger requirement for building consent.

992
00:57:10,735 --> 00:57:12,655
Speaker 7: But happy to discuss and argue.

993
00:57:14,215 --> 00:57:16,655
Speaker 13: Would it be worth me bringing the counsel tomorrow and

994
00:57:16,695 --> 00:57:17,295
Speaker 13: saying this is.

995
00:57:17,935 --> 00:57:26,895
Speaker 7: Absolutely absolutely Do you want to wow, okay or no?

996
00:57:27,655 --> 00:57:27,815
Speaker 5: Well?

997
00:57:27,895 --> 00:57:30,815
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean the hard thing is once you open

998
00:57:30,855 --> 00:57:33,375
Speaker 7: that can, you know there's no putting the lid back on, right,

999
00:57:35,015 --> 00:57:36,855
Speaker 7: So maybe spend a bit of time doing a bit

1000
00:57:36,895 --> 00:57:40,815
Speaker 7: of reading, or go back to your roofer and go, hey, look,

1001
00:57:40,855 --> 00:57:43,135
Speaker 7: I've just had this chat with that prack on the

1002
00:57:43,255 --> 00:57:46,815
Speaker 7: radio and he's told me that, you know, we maybe

1003
00:57:47,015 --> 00:57:49,975
Speaker 7: needed a building consent for the work. Can you explain

1004
00:57:50,055 --> 00:57:51,055
Speaker 7: why we don't need one?

1005
00:57:52,535 --> 00:57:54,575
Speaker 13: Or he might go, oh, didn't you read the terms

1006
00:57:54,615 --> 00:58:00,495
Speaker 13: and conditions and in the fine print it ses responsible

1007
00:58:00,535 --> 00:58:01,655
Speaker 13: for getting the building consent.

1008
00:58:02,535 --> 00:58:05,175
Speaker 7: And look, if that's in the terms and conditions, then

1009
00:58:05,695 --> 00:58:10,015
Speaker 7: they are aware and they've snooked you, and but very

1010
00:58:10,015 --> 00:58:12,375
Speaker 7: little that you could do about that. Let us know

1011
00:58:12,375 --> 00:58:15,735
Speaker 7: how you get on. Okay, we're all the very best,

1012
00:58:16,095 --> 00:58:22,255
Speaker 7: much appreciated, Nice to talk, all the best, Graham, take care. Fascinating, fascinating. Oh,

1013
00:58:22,335 --> 00:58:24,255
Speaker 7: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call

1014
00:58:24,255 --> 00:58:27,055
Speaker 7: when you take a break. It is twenty three minutes

1015
00:58:27,095 --> 00:58:27,695
Speaker 7: after seven.

1016
00:58:27,895 --> 00:58:30,775
Speaker 1: Whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing the fens, or wondering

1017
00:58:30,855 --> 00:58:32,415
Speaker 1: how to fix that hole in the wall.

1018
00:58:32,495 --> 00:58:34,215
Speaker 3: Give Peter wolf Gabber call on.

1019
00:58:35,695 --> 00:58:35,975
Speaker 8: Eighty.

1020
00:58:36,135 --> 00:58:38,175
Speaker 3: The resident builder on youth Dogs at.

1021
00:58:38,135 --> 00:58:42,855
Speaker 7: B I've noticed recently, and for people that live in

1022
00:58:42,975 --> 00:58:45,655
Speaker 7: or manage an apartment block. You'll know this as well.

1023
00:58:45,895 --> 00:58:49,655
Speaker 7: How quickly aluminium joinery can fade, can get chalky, can

1024
00:58:49,695 --> 00:58:52,695
Speaker 7: start to corrode away. So I've got Jacob here from

1025
00:58:52,815 --> 00:58:56,175
Speaker 7: Nano Clear to let us know how that can be fixed.

1026
00:58:56,455 --> 00:58:57,935
Speaker 7: Good morning, How are you, Jacob?

1027
00:58:58,415 --> 00:59:00,535
Speaker 14: Yeah, good moyn. Thank thanks for having me made.

1028
00:59:00,655 --> 00:59:03,095
Speaker 7: Now, am I right in understanding that you can bring

1029
00:59:03,335 --> 00:59:07,175
Speaker 7: back that original color of faded aluminium jewnery so it

1030
00:59:07,295 --> 00:59:08,135
Speaker 7: looks like new?

1031
00:59:09,135 --> 00:59:12,575
Speaker 14: Yes, absolutely can. So our process rejuvenates old and tired

1032
00:59:12,615 --> 00:59:15,535
Speaker 14: element of jrawnery and it instantly restores the original color

1033
00:59:15,535 --> 00:59:17,655
Speaker 14: and gloss. So then it not only looks brand new,

1034
00:59:17,695 --> 00:59:20,295
Speaker 14: but it's actually protected for longer than even brand new jrawnry.

1035
00:59:20,735 --> 00:59:23,535
Speaker 7: Right, So for body corporates who are managing perhaps dozens

1036
00:59:23,535 --> 00:59:26,095
Speaker 7: of units, this isn't just a costmetic issue. This is

1037
00:59:26,135 --> 00:59:28,935
Speaker 7: actually long term protection and cost savings.

1038
00:59:29,695 --> 00:59:30,415
Speaker 15: Yes, that's right.

1039
00:59:30,495 --> 00:59:33,855
Speaker 14: So replacing jewnery on an entire apartment block costs hundreds

1040
00:59:33,855 --> 00:59:36,775
Speaker 14: of thousands of dollars, but were nanoclear, we can recolor

1041
00:59:36,855 --> 00:59:39,535
Speaker 14: to something different or restore what was originally there at

1042
00:59:39,535 --> 00:59:41,815
Speaker 14: a fraction of the cost and have it last even longer.

1043
00:59:42,255 --> 00:59:44,695
Speaker 7: So what will it actually protect from and how long

1044
00:59:44,735 --> 00:59:47,015
Speaker 7: does that last well.

1045
00:59:47,095 --> 00:59:49,575
Speaker 14: Nanoclare is sun UV and sea salt resistance, and we

1046
00:59:49,615 --> 00:59:51,695
Speaker 14: live on an island surrounded by sea salt and then

1047
00:59:51,735 --> 00:59:54,415
Speaker 14: the highest UV saturation in the world, so nanocaire is

1048
00:59:54,415 --> 00:59:57,455
Speaker 14: actually the perfect remedy for our climate. It's also chemical

1049
00:59:57,495 --> 00:59:59,975
Speaker 14: and solvent resistant and a lot harder than normal paint,

1050
01:00:00,055 --> 01:00:02,855
Speaker 14: making it super hard to damage. And how long does

1051
01:00:02,895 --> 01:00:05,535
Speaker 14: it lasts? Well, we guarantee it lasts for a decade,

1052
01:00:05,535 --> 01:00:07,695
Speaker 14: but we always to last a lot longer than that.

1053
01:00:08,335 --> 01:00:10,735
Speaker 7: So if you're involved with the body corporate, your work

1054
01:00:10,855 --> 01:00:13,575
Speaker 7: is perfect because it not only makes the building look

1055
01:00:13,615 --> 01:00:16,735
Speaker 7: really sharp, but it's also protecting the investment and it

1056
01:00:16,855 --> 01:00:18,975
Speaker 7: may not require as much maintenance in the future.

1057
01:00:19,815 --> 01:00:22,255
Speaker 14: Yeah, exactly better. So body corporates tell us all the

1058
01:00:22,295 --> 01:00:24,695
Speaker 14: time that they love the immediate list that it gets

1059
01:00:24,935 --> 01:00:27,455
Speaker 14: for the appearance and the resale value in ten satisfaction

1060
01:00:27,895 --> 01:00:29,535
Speaker 14: and then the peace of mind knowing that it will

1061
01:00:29,575 --> 01:00:31,575
Speaker 14: stay protected for so far into the future.

1062
01:00:31,855 --> 01:00:34,055
Speaker 7: So do you guys just work with body corporates?

1063
01:00:34,655 --> 01:00:37,215
Speaker 14: Oh, necessarily work with homeowners and business owners and property

1064
01:00:37,215 --> 01:00:40,135
Speaker 14: managers and anyone that has eliminimal color stee already that

1065
01:00:40,175 --> 01:00:41,895
Speaker 14: they want to protect from corrosion.

1066
01:00:41,455 --> 01:00:42,095
Speaker 12: In the future.

1067
01:00:43,255 --> 01:00:45,935
Speaker 7: So it sounds like if you're in a body corporate

1068
01:00:46,015 --> 01:00:48,375
Speaker 7: or you're on the committee and you're managing the department block,

1069
01:00:48,615 --> 01:00:51,575
Speaker 7: it's worth a conversation with the team at Nanoclear. You'll

1070
01:00:51,615 --> 01:00:54,175
Speaker 7: find them at nanoclear dot co dot nz.

1071
01:00:55,175 --> 01:00:57,415
Speaker 14: Yeah, that's Nanoclear dot co, doo and zed and you

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Speaker 7: Great talking with you, Jacob, Thank.

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Speaker 7: Be Hey. Now with the weather warming up and the

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Speaker 7: season starting to change, it won't be long before you'll

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Speaker 7: be out there stuck into the garden and enjoying the

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Speaker 7: fresh air. Spring is the perfect time to get your

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Speaker 7: more productive plants will its root blast If you haven't heard,

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Speaker 7: or the humble house plant. A little sprinkle of root

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Speaker 7: blast helps build stronger plants from the roots up and

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Speaker 7: plays a part in creating a healthier leaf structure. In turn,

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Speaker 7: you'll have plants every green thumb will be jealous of.

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Speaker 7: It's environmentally safe, hormone free, and disease resistant, so no

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Speaker 7: need to worry about all of those nasty things. Plus

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Speaker 7: it's easy to use one application, no need to mix

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Speaker 7: with water. Get the most out of your garden this spring.

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Speaker 7: see your nearest garden center.

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Speaker 3: ZIBB.

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Speaker 7: Right bang on seven thirty. Let's get amongst it. Kevin,

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Speaker 7: good morning.

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Speaker 16: Good morning, beat Hey, how you doing, come mad?

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 16: I plan living kitchen, lounge. Yes, west facing window.

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Speaker 12: Yes, in the lounge.

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Speaker 16: So on a good sunny day in the winter, I

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01:02:33,815 --> 01:02:35,935
Speaker 16: can get it. With a nets pulled back, I can

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Speaker 16: get it up to twenty three degrees.

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Speaker 7: Gotcha.

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Speaker 16: So my question is this, if that was double glazed,

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Speaker 16: what would the story be.

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Speaker 7: It depends. One of the things I and I do

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Speaker 7: quite a bit of work with Metro Performance Class who

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Speaker 7: make double glazing.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 7: So one of the things that I think the next

1114
01:02:57,455 --> 01:03:00,135
Speaker 7: story to tell about double glazing is that you can

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01:03:00,175 --> 01:03:03,615
Speaker 7: get it to do different things depending on what your

1116
01:03:03,655 --> 01:03:06,255
Speaker 7: requirements are. So Typically when we think about double blas,

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01:03:06,695 --> 01:03:11,415
Speaker 7: we're thinking about heat retention. Right. We realize that heat

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01:03:11,455 --> 01:03:14,935
Speaker 7: will dissipate through a single glazed unit and our houses

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01:03:14,975 --> 01:03:18,535
Speaker 7: will get colder in winter. Therefore, we want to trap

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Speaker 7: that heat inside. So we're going to orientate the thermal

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Speaker 7: resistance let's say, inside, so that we trap that heat. Now,

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Speaker 7: in your situation, you might be saying, in fact, I

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Speaker 7: don't mind if the heat goes out. What I, or

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Speaker 7: more importantly so, is your concern around keeping heat in

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Speaker 7: or keeping heat out in summer time. Okay, so in

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Speaker 7: that sense, there yes, putting double glazing in, doing like

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Speaker 7: a low e coating, which will then push that heat

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Speaker 7: back inside or stop it escaping at the same rate,

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Speaker 7: will help make that space warmer. If you've got insulation

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Speaker 7: in the walls, if you've got half decent joinery, if

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Speaker 7: you've done some insulation into the ceiling, if it's successible

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Speaker 7: those sorts of things. Your weak spot will be your glazing. Right,

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Speaker 7: So simply taking out your single glazing adding in double glazing,

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Speaker 7: it'll be at a rough guess, at least seven times

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Speaker 7: more thermally efficient than your single glazing with that.

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Speaker 16: So what if it's twenty three degrees now? Yes, well

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Speaker 16: in the winter, what do you reckon degrees would be

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Speaker 16: with the double glazing.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think it's more a question of in order

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01:04:33,415 --> 01:04:35,855
Speaker 7: to get to twenty three degrees in winter. Right now,

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01:04:36,615 --> 01:04:39,695
Speaker 7: you've probably got the heater is going and that sort

1142
01:04:39,695 --> 01:04:43,255
Speaker 7: of thing, right and your heat loss. You will lose

1143
01:04:43,295 --> 01:04:44,895
Speaker 7: a lot of heat. You'll still be able to get

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01:04:44,935 --> 01:04:46,855
Speaker 7: to twenty three degrees, but you need a lot of

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01:04:46,975 --> 01:04:47,735
Speaker 7: energy to do it.

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Speaker 16: I'm not using the heater.

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Speaker 7: So how does the house get to twenty three degrees? Simply?

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Speaker 16: Because well, just what the sudden Like, as I say,

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01:04:57,255 --> 01:05:00,815
Speaker 16: on a good sunny day in the winter, it gets

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Speaker 16: up to twenty three on its own, and then I

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01:05:03,775 --> 01:05:05,735
Speaker 16: just before the sun goes down, I pull all the

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01:05:05,815 --> 01:05:10,095
Speaker 16: drape and I've got twenty three degrees and with an

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01:05:10,095 --> 01:05:15,575
Speaker 16: overnight low five yes, I only lose five degrees overnight, So.

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Speaker 7: It's about eighteen degrees let's say overnight, which is chilly

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Speaker 7: but not uncomfortable.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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01:05:21,535 --> 01:05:25,455
Speaker 7: So I guess if you wanted to keep let's say

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Speaker 7: your house at around twenty degrees overnight, then adding the

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01:05:30,015 --> 01:05:33,935
Speaker 7: double glazing will be that difference potentially between it dropping

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Speaker 7: down losing heat and dropping down to about eighteen degrees

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Speaker 7: and perhaps being able to maintain nineteen or twenty degrees overnight.

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Speaker 7: It's simply about heat retention in your instance.

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Speaker 16: Now I've got a little chip for cleaning the flue.

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01:05:51,775 --> 01:05:55,335
Speaker 16: Would you like to know? Go for it? Okay? So

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01:05:56,215 --> 01:06:00,615
Speaker 16: I bought a bush years ago at Minter ten for

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Speaker 16: about thirty six dollars, and then I put it in

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01:06:04,255 --> 01:06:09,775
Speaker 16: a piece of fifteen mill, put a little bolt through

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01:06:09,815 --> 01:06:13,095
Speaker 16: that through the end of it, and then that's about

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01:06:13,135 --> 01:06:17,095
Speaker 16: six hundred long at fifteen mil, and I've got it

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01:06:17,135 --> 01:06:22,375
Speaker 16: into twenty five mil piece of alkathine, so I can't fire.

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Speaker 16: I'm talking about pull the bapple out and shove this

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Speaker 16: up and one shove up, one shove back, and one

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01:06:32,895 --> 01:06:35,095
Speaker 16: more up and down, and your chimney's clean.

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Speaker 7: So what do you do with the dust that you collect?

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Speaker 7: Do you have a vacuum cleaner on standby and sort

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Speaker 7: of suck that dust out at the same time.

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Speaker 16: I just do it slow, so really you don't get

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Speaker 16: any rights. And then there's a couple of mill of sot,

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Speaker 16: a couple of leaders, well leader and a half depends

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Speaker 16: if you're using your fire like every day. You've got

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Speaker 16: a leader and a half of as an average.

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Speaker 7: So now now that you've mentioned you've got a fire,

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Speaker 7: just quickly, when you warming your house in winter, are

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Speaker 7: you using the fire?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, but that's after the sun goes down.

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Speaker 7: Yes, okay, but then part of your house staying at

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01:07:17,095 --> 01:07:19,415
Speaker 7: eighteen twenty degrees is because you've got the fire on

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01:07:19,495 --> 01:07:25,095
Speaker 7: as well. No, no, no, no, without the fire yeah, okay. Interesting.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I've hardly used a fire this winter. Yeah, and yeah, you.

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Speaker 7: Know, I mean the great thing is what you're describing

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01:07:34,095 --> 01:07:37,815
Speaker 7: is kind of best practice in the sense that if

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01:07:37,815 --> 01:07:40,335
Speaker 7: you've got some drapes and that's why older houses often

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01:07:40,375 --> 01:07:43,415
Speaker 7: had drapes and often had pelmets, right, So if you've

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Speaker 7: got some drapes that go from above the window down

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01:07:46,975 --> 01:07:49,975
Speaker 7: to the floor ideally, and they actually drape onto the floor,

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Speaker 7: and you've got a palmet at the top which stops

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01:07:52,335 --> 01:07:58,015
Speaker 7: air circulating around a little bit, then that's really good practice. So,

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Speaker 7: you know, I suppose part of the challenge is that

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Speaker 7: one of the issues I think that we've got is

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Speaker 7: that not everyone knows how to use their house. If

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01:08:06,735 --> 01:08:10,055
Speaker 7: I'm really blunt and so people leave their windows open

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01:08:10,175 --> 01:08:12,895
Speaker 7: past that point where it's sort of the inflection between

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01:08:12,895 --> 01:08:15,855
Speaker 7: it being warm inside and warm outside, and then they

1204
01:08:15,975 --> 01:08:18,055
Speaker 7: get all of that heat loss and that last part

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01:08:18,095 --> 01:08:21,655
Speaker 7: of the day because they they're not active in managing

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01:08:21,655 --> 01:08:24,975
Speaker 7: their environment by simply closing the curtains. So at that point,

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Speaker 7: that's where double glazing helps you out. But look, we

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Speaker 7: know the evidence double glazing works. Appreciate you call Kevin,

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Speaker 7: Thank you very very much. At A seven eighty six

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Speaker 7: here at Newstalk set b Bob talk to me.

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Speaker 17: Yes, good Peter Freezing give me some worries.

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Speaker 7: I don't mean to I don't.

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Speaker 17: Oh, I listened to you every day. No, the gentleman

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Speaker 17: built his house in the nineteen eighties. Yes, and see

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01:08:50,495 --> 01:08:53,935
Speaker 17: needs it. Put your feet up. My house was completed

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01:08:53,935 --> 01:08:57,935
Speaker 17: in nineteen ninety six. Yep, and nothing's changed. I still

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01:08:57,935 --> 01:09:01,815
Speaker 17: have an old fellow. Now, I've got the paperwork of

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01:09:01,895 --> 01:09:05,575
Speaker 17: what was done and when it was done. But codes

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01:09:05,615 --> 01:09:09,815
Speaker 17: of implant Yes, would there have been the builders? I

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01:09:09,855 --> 01:09:12,295
Speaker 17: remember people coming around looking at the house. I'm sure

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01:09:12,295 --> 01:09:12,775
Speaker 17: they were.

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01:09:12,615 --> 01:09:14,695
Speaker 7: The council inspectors.

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Speaker 17: But where would they Would they have given the code

1224
01:09:18,415 --> 01:09:21,015
Speaker 17: of compliance to the builder. Well, I haven't gott it.

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Speaker 17: Would he have been responsible for lodging over them? It's

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01:09:24,815 --> 01:09:25,575
Speaker 17: just a question.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. Sure, it depends a little bit on when the

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01:09:32,175 --> 01:09:34,695
Speaker 7: Let's say you started building in the nineteen eighties and

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01:09:34,735 --> 01:09:38,815
Speaker 7: you didn't finish until nineteen ninety six. What you might

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01:09:38,855 --> 01:09:40,895
Speaker 7: find when you go through the paperwork is that you've

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01:09:40,935 --> 01:09:46,735
Speaker 7: got a building permit, right, and building permits didn't require

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Speaker 7: a CCC. So in that sense, if you've got a

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Speaker 7: building permit, what.

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Speaker 16: You would we do?

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Speaker 17: This building was built in ninety six, beginning began and

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Speaker 17: beginning in ninety six for ninety six, Yeah, okay. And

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Speaker 17: I'm just wondering should I go to the council and say, look,

1238
01:10:08,455 --> 01:10:10,815
Speaker 17: if I don't tend to sell, ibe iy get taken

1239
01:10:10,815 --> 01:10:13,455
Speaker 17: out of their box because I love it fair enough

1240
01:10:13,975 --> 01:10:17,975
Speaker 17: somebody else's responsibility. And I'm just should I go to

1241
01:10:18,055 --> 01:10:20,855
Speaker 17: the council and say, look, if when I die in

1242
01:10:20,855 --> 01:10:22,735
Speaker 17: my house are sold? Are there any issues?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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01:10:24,975 --> 01:10:29,175
Speaker 7: I mean look, you could request the property file, yeah,

1245
01:10:29,335 --> 01:10:33,815
Speaker 7: and that will give you an indication of what might

1246
01:10:33,895 --> 01:10:38,815
Speaker 7: be outstanding. Certainly, if the work was undertaken in ninety

1247
01:10:38,855 --> 01:10:40,815
Speaker 7: ninety six, then it would have been a building consent

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01:10:40,855 --> 01:10:46,255
Speaker 7: and a building consent should have a CCC. If there

1249
01:10:46,335 --> 01:10:49,255
Speaker 7: is some paper trail that indicates that you had most

1250
01:10:49,335 --> 01:10:53,295
Speaker 7: of the inspections done, that would be helpful if it

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01:10:53,895 --> 01:10:56,935
Speaker 7: maybe I think what happens in many many cases is

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01:10:56,975 --> 01:10:59,535
Speaker 7: people get to the final inspection. There's a couple of

1253
01:10:59,575 --> 01:11:01,815
Speaker 7: things on the final inspection that they have to do.

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01:11:03,175 --> 01:11:05,575
Speaker 7: By that time, everyone's sick of the process and it

1255
01:11:05,655 --> 01:11:08,295
Speaker 7: goes into the raw and nobody thinks about it again.

1256
01:11:08,455 --> 01:11:11,415
Speaker 7: And maybe that's the case, in which case you'll need

1257
01:11:11,455 --> 01:11:14,855
Speaker 7: to redo the final inspection. That can be a bit

1258
01:11:15,055 --> 01:11:17,935
Speaker 7: tricky because there might be new regulations that you have

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01:11:17,975 --> 01:11:22,295
Speaker 7: to comply with if you do want to get it

1260
01:11:22,335 --> 01:11:24,855
Speaker 7: sorted out, I think it's the sort of thing that

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01:11:24,895 --> 01:11:29,055
Speaker 7: you'd go to again, a building surveyor right. That's not

1262
01:11:29,375 --> 01:11:31,615
Speaker 7: necessarily going to be a cheap process, but it will

1263
01:11:31,655 --> 01:11:33,855
Speaker 7: get you a resolution to this.

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01:11:35,535 --> 01:11:36,255
Speaker 17: Property file.

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01:11:36,655 --> 01:11:38,935
Speaker 7: Ask for the property file, get someone that you know

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01:11:39,935 --> 01:11:41,815
Speaker 7: to review it for you, or you have a look

1267
01:11:41,855 --> 01:11:45,375
Speaker 7: through see what the documentation is. You might find that

1268
01:11:45,455 --> 01:11:48,535
Speaker 7: counsel are actually quite helpful depending on where you are,

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01:11:48,935 --> 01:11:52,295
Speaker 7: and they'll be able to tell you what's missing and

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01:11:52,335 --> 01:11:54,455
Speaker 7: then you can make a decision as to do. I

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01:11:54,535 --> 01:11:57,295
Speaker 7: want to sort this out now, or shall I just

1272
01:11:57,415 --> 01:12:00,215
Speaker 7: leave it and it's somebody else's job later on and.

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01:12:00,335 --> 01:12:02,095
Speaker 17: When I'm gone at somebody else's job.

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01:12:02,615 --> 01:12:06,615
Speaker 7: You can take both approaches, can't you exactly? Hey, let

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01:12:06,695 --> 01:12:08,495
Speaker 7: us know how you get on all the best of you, Bob.

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01:12:09,095 --> 01:12:11,055
Speaker 7: You take care see then, oh wait, one hundred and

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01:12:11,055 --> 01:12:13,135
Speaker 7: eighty ten eighty taking your calls. A lot of calls

1278
01:12:13,175 --> 01:12:15,695
Speaker 7: around this whole thing around building consents. I've got a

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01:12:15,975 --> 01:12:23,415
Speaker 7: truckload of texts around whether or not things like replacing

1280
01:12:23,415 --> 01:12:27,455
Speaker 7: the roof requires a building consent. So here's one exempt example.

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01:12:27,495 --> 01:12:31,095
Speaker 7: One the owner replaces an old clay tile roof with

1282
01:12:31,175 --> 01:12:33,415
Speaker 7: a profiled metal roof such as long run or press

1283
01:12:33,415 --> 01:12:38,175
Speaker 7: metal tiles in the same position. Scenario two, the owner

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Speaker 7: replaces twenty year old profile metal roof cladding where that

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Speaker 7: cladding has achieved its Building Code durability requirement I it's

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Speaker 7: lasted more than fifteen years, and the replacement cladding is

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Speaker 7: comparable such as a metal roof. So that's from Bob,

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Speaker 7: so exempt. See I'm not sure which one, Bob you

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Speaker 7: mean is exempt. I would have thought that the swapping

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Speaker 7: from an old clay tile roof with a profiled metal

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Speaker 7: roof would require a consent. The second one twenty year

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Speaker 7: old roof cladding that's last. So this is another requirement

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Speaker 7: if you do work that's repairing or replacing products that

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Speaker 7: should have lasted long than their code requirement. I so

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Speaker 7: metal roofing we expect to last fifteen years. If you

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Speaker 7: replace that roof within ten years because it's failed, that

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Speaker 7: triggers a requirement for building consent if you replace it

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Speaker 7: sixteen years after it was installed or CCC was issued.

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Speaker 7: I suppose then it doesn't. That's exempt.

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Speaker 3: It's like for like.

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Speaker 7: So what is like for like? Pete, you would not

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Speaker 7: make a lawyer. True, you have presumed that the roofing

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Speaker 7: company knew that they needed a building consent and didn't

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Speaker 7: get one. They possibly think they don't need one, and

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Speaker 7: I agree with them. I did the same type of

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Speaker 7: job and Wellington Council only wanted to expect the new

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Speaker 7: roof over the extension. The reroof over the existing house

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Speaker 7: was treated like for like, but they did ask for

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Speaker 7: a photo of the Perlin screws from Bentley. I hear

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Speaker 7: what you're saying, but I think that in terms of

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Speaker 7: the Code of Ethics now for LBPS, we are being

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Speaker 7: held to a higher account. And so if you know

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Speaker 7: as an LBP, as part of your professional development, you're

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Speaker 7: learning that a building consent is required for this type

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Speaker 7: of work. You have a right or a duty to

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Speaker 7: inform the purople that are contracting you to do that work.

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Speaker 7: That's my point. But I hear what you're saying, Bentley,

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Speaker 7: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty, will take

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Speaker 7: a short break. It is seven forty two.

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Speaker 3: Squeaky door or squeaky floor.

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Speaker 1: Get the right advice from Peter Wolfcare, the resident builder

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Speaker 1: on NEWSTALKSB.

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Speaker 7: Couple of quick texts, Pete, I put retro double glazing

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Speaker 7: through the house three weeks ago. The temperatures up three

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Speaker 7: degrees already from Colleen. So that was off the back

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Speaker 7: of the comments from Kevin about you know what impact

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Speaker 7: the double glazing might have. So thanks for that, Colleen.

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Speaker 7: That's awesome. Hey, Pete, read the reroof job. No one's

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Speaker 7: allowed to start consentable works without a building consent. The

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Speaker 7: roofers should have made the owner of a aware of that,

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Speaker 7: which would have triggered the owner requiring a building consent.

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Speaker 7: Now this is really interesting too. Just on this one

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Speaker 7: as well, Morning Peak. We recently replaced a concrete tile

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Speaker 7: roof with long run color steel or long run iron.

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Speaker 7: We got six quotes. All of them were specifically asked

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Speaker 7: if a building consent was required, and all of them

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Speaker 7: said no, some citing that because they had an LVP

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Speaker 7: running the job, it wasn't required. All perlins were replaced

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Speaker 7: and fixed. Things were done to the roof trusses and

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Speaker 7: to the top of the wallplate chairs. From Nick, I'll

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Speaker 7: go and get a bit of advice on this because

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Speaker 7: I finding this a fascinating discussion about whether or not

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Speaker 7: a building consent is actually required for this type of work.

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Speaker 7: So I've actually due to meet with some council inspectors

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Speaker 7: later on this week, and I will reach out to

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Speaker 7: a couple of building consent specialists as well around that.

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Speaker 7: But thank you very much for that text, Nick, Around

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Speaker 7: six quotes. All of them were specifically asked whether or

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Speaker 7: not a building consent was required, and all of them

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Speaker 7: said no because an lbp's doing the work. I'll just

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Speaker 7: leave it there and well, I'll do some research this week.

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Speaker 7: I promise it is seven forty seven news Dogs'd be

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Speaker 7: joining us this morning, is Nick Shanks from OTC Projects,

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Speaker 7: specializing in commercial, industrial, and large scale residential development and

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Speaker 7: construction based up in the beautiful Green Bay round, Fanada. Now,

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Speaker 7: Chris Maskell, who was chatting with the other day from Duken,

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Speaker 7: tells me that you've used actually a decent amount of

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Speaker 7: triboard to line your latest projects.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, that's that's correct, Pete.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Now these are large scale developments. So at this

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Speaker 7: way para para drive project, how many square medias do

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Speaker 7: you reckon? You've used?

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Speaker 11: All up?

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Speaker 15: We were we were a tick over four thousand, six

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Speaker 15: hundred square meters.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, it was a fair It was a fair bit.

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Speaker 15: And please don't ask me the totality of speak, but

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Speaker 15: they couldn't tell you. There's been a fair bit of it.

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Speaker 7: So, I mean, that's that's a lot I'm thinking about,

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Speaker 7: you know, in an average section. But that's okay, that's

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Speaker 7: a lot of tri of the jn L triboard. Hey,

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Speaker 7: In terms of using it as a ligning option, what

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Speaker 7: sparked your interest?

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Speaker 15: Well, I previously have had quite a bit of experience

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Speaker 15: with the product, so I'm very familiar with it, and

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Speaker 15: this particular project called for quite an intense sort of

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Speaker 15: pre construction and developed design phase, and it was one

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Speaker 15: one one was one particular product that jumped into mine

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Speaker 15: and the type of use being essentially fifteen industrial units,

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Speaker 15: commercial units warehouse space is in this building. It seemed

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Speaker 15: like an obvious choice and it was really came down

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Speaker 15: to the durability of the product and the versatility, and

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Speaker 15: it took a lot of boxes and ultimately was a

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Speaker 15: product we chose to go with.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So in terms of link for the triboard, I'm

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Speaker 7: thinking industrial, you want those slightly longer links. Was that

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Speaker 7: part of the choice.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, Yeah, that's true. For the warehouse space is the

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Speaker 15: full height like walls and tendency walls and those warehouse wars.

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Speaker 15: We went with the three points six by one point

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Speaker 15: two sheet peep for that particular reason, but we also

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Speaker 15: incorporated the three seven forty by four hundred tongue groove

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Speaker 15: plank as well, and that was for the outside of

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Speaker 15: the office to warehouse junction wall, just to still create

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Speaker 15: and maintain that level of versatility and durability, but give

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Speaker 15: it a slightly higher finish and it really worked well.

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Speaker 7: I've used it bosself. It's really smart. So in terms

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Speaker 7: of the installation and comparing to other materials.

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Speaker 15: No dramas, no, no, none whatsoever. Made to be honest,

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Speaker 15: I would say it's comparable with most of the timber

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Speaker 15: sheet products. Yeah, no dramas at all. It's once you get,

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Speaker 15: like anything, once you get that system in place and

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Speaker 15: you put the trust in the skill set of your

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Speaker 15: carpenters into a system and it goes up very efficiently.

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Speaker 7: So in terms of fixing the tribe, what was what

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Speaker 7: was the process that you guys used.

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Speaker 15: Well, we had three different substrates. We actually had some

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Speaker 15: cold form girts which were a part of the primary structure,

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Speaker 15: the superstructure, and then we had one point one five

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Speaker 15: steel gauge or gauge steel stud and we also had

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Speaker 15: timber battons overlaid onto some of the girts. And it

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Speaker 15: was all very specific to each type of each elevation. Sure, again,

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Speaker 15: it's just finding the right type of fixing, which we found.

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Speaker 15: It wasn't a daunting proposition whatsoever. There was multiple options

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Speaker 15: and it ultimately achieved the desired result.

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Speaker 7: And in terms of coating, what what did you opt for?

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Speaker 15: So again we had two we had two types of

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Speaker 15: finishes we went were a polyurethane finish for the warehouse spaces,

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Speaker 15: and just just for the reason that it wasn't going

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Speaker 15: to show up marks as much, it wouldn't scuff as badly,

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Speaker 15: and it actually presented a really high level finish. And

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Speaker 15: then for the tongue and groove on the outside of

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Speaker 15: the offices, we went with a three coat paint system, which,

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Speaker 15: not surprisingly with that in their skin.

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Speaker 7: Comes up really good, doesn't it.

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Speaker 15: It really does make Yes super impressive. Couldn't be happier

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Speaker 15: with it, And there's a few people talking about this project,

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Speaker 15: which is pleasing lovely hate.

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Speaker 7: Now for OTC projects, what's on the horizon, We've.

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Speaker 15: Got a fairly diverse range of project at the moment, Pete.

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Speaker 15: We've got we're doing commercial retail fit outs, design and

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Speaker 15: build on some industrial units, and even hoping to get

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Speaker 15: a couple of slams down on some entry level like

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Speaker 15: picture homes. So yeah, we're trying to remain diverse, and

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Speaker 15: I think that's the strength of ours in this current climate,

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Speaker 15: but equally still focusing on our bread and butter, but

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Speaker 15: just trying to keep our eyes wide open and stay

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Speaker 15: open to any market opportunities. And I'm really happy we

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Speaker 15: were at the moment made and excited about twenty twenty.

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Speaker 7: Six and a little bit of optimism goes a long way.

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Speaker 7: It's it's been tough, but it sounds like you guys

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Speaker 7: are doing great. Thanks very much for your time this morning, Nick,

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Speaker 7: that was awesome. If you want to check out more

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Speaker 7: about OTC projects, go to Otcprojects dot co dot n z.

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Speaker 7: To find out more about triboard go to Janel dot

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Speaker 7: co dot nz.

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Speaker 1: Helping you get those DIY projects done right. The resident

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Speaker 7: We're coming up to the news top of the hour

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Speaker 7: at eight o'clock. After the news brief conversation with the winner,

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Speaker 7: Young Feller. There you go. There's a hint who won

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Speaker 7: the Apprentice of the Year competition that's been an Auckland

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Speaker 7: on Thursday Friday. I popped out there on Thursday to see.

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Speaker 7: There's a practical component to it. So to get to

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Speaker 7: the finals you need to have competed in your regional

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Speaker 7: finals around the country through the Master Builders Association. When

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Speaker 7: you come up to Auckland and they had to build

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Speaker 7: it would have been about two and a half two

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Speaker 7: meters long, about fifteen hundred high a playhouse that's in

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Speaker 7: the shape of a locomotive, so it had a little

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Speaker 7: chimney stack on it. It had a curved bonnet on

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Speaker 7: the front you could step in an out of. It

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Speaker 7: had little wheels on the side. There was an interesting

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Speaker 7: little project to do, particularly when there's literally hundreds of

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Speaker 7: people watching you work and you've got a timeline and

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Speaker 7: you know you're going to be judged at the end

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Speaker 7: of it. Anyway, we're talking to the winner after the

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Speaker 7: break and unc charmit as well. The CEO from Master

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Speaker 7: Builders after the.

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Speaker 1: News met twice God was but maybe called Pete first

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Speaker 1: for your walkab the resident Builder News Talk said, be.

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Speaker 7: Your news Talk said b it is six minutes after eleven.

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Speaker 7: Thanks to you again for those texts that have come in.

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01:22:59,335 --> 01:23:03,015
Speaker 7: I've had all sorts of opinions about the whole reroofing thing.

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Speaker 7: People have sent me links to various pieces of legislation.

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Speaker 7: I will set aside a bit of time this week

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Speaker 7: to try and get a definitive answer. It's kind of

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Speaker 7: even crazy to think that we can't get a definitive

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Speaker 7: answer on this, that there are so many opinions. But

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Speaker 7: either way, I will talk to a couple of people

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Speaker 7: and do a bit of research, will come back and

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Speaker 7: have a bit of a chat around that. Now I'm

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Speaker 7: having trouble texting back to Keith who text through quite

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Speaker 7: early on about a coating. We mentioned this on the program.

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Speaker 7: Dash is the item that you might find useful, so

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Speaker 7: D A c. H. It's a coating that goes over

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Speaker 7: the top. In some cases you can do it yourself

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Speaker 7: as well. A couple of interesting texts around the person

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Speaker 7: that got six quotes for one job, and followed up

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Speaker 7: by a person that said, gee, I hope that the

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Speaker 7: person that got the six quotes paid for them. How frustrating.

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01:23:58,255 --> 01:24:00,375
Speaker 7: I kind of get what you're saying, but either way,

1495
01:24:00,895 --> 01:24:03,975
Speaker 7: that's an interesting one. And then a bit about the

1496
01:24:04,015 --> 01:24:06,815
Speaker 7: double glazing and its effectiveness as well. Again, thank you

1497
01:24:06,935 --> 01:24:09,695
Speaker 7: Collen for sending that through. Now. It was my pleasure

1498
01:24:10,455 --> 01:24:14,175
Speaker 7: on Thursday, very briefly to pop into the cloud down

1499
01:24:14,255 --> 01:24:18,735
Speaker 7: on Auckland's waterfront to see a bunch of young apprentices

1500
01:24:18,855 --> 01:24:23,055
Speaker 7: from around the country beavering away on this project which

1501
01:24:23,175 --> 01:24:27,135
Speaker 7: was trying to describe it for you. Imagine a locomotive,

1502
01:24:27,295 --> 01:24:29,815
Speaker 7: right so, with a chimney at the front or a

1503
01:24:29,855 --> 01:24:32,535
Speaker 7: funnel at the front kind of driver's cab that you

1504
01:24:32,615 --> 01:24:35,895
Speaker 7: could hop into. These are going to be playhouses for

1505
01:24:36,415 --> 01:24:40,575
Speaker 7: early childcare centers. Each of the centers was sort of

1506
01:24:40,775 --> 01:24:44,335
Speaker 7: a fan club for individual competitors. It was a fairly

1507
01:24:44,615 --> 01:24:47,735
Speaker 7: tricky little build. We'll find out just how tricky it

1508
01:24:48,015 --> 01:24:50,015
Speaker 7: was in just a moment. But it is my great

1509
01:24:50,055 --> 01:24:53,415
Speaker 7: pleasure to welcome to the show un Chama from Master

1510
01:24:53,455 --> 01:24:55,495
Speaker 7: Builders Chief executive. Very good morning to you.

1511
01:24:55,575 --> 01:24:58,375
Speaker 3: Unkind, Good morning creating show.

1512
01:24:58,655 --> 01:25:01,135
Speaker 7: Hey, now just quickly before we talk to the winner.

1513
01:25:01,735 --> 01:25:04,535
Speaker 7: How long have Master Builders been running this Apprentice of

1514
01:25:04,575 --> 01:25:05,335
Speaker 7: the Year competition.

1515
01:25:06,335 --> 01:25:08,295
Speaker 18: We've been running this for over twenty two years.

1516
01:25:08,575 --> 01:25:13,775
Speaker 7: Wow. And the process to get to the final is what.

1517
01:25:15,255 --> 01:25:19,215
Speaker 18: So apprentices go to their regional competition. So we had

1518
01:25:19,495 --> 01:25:22,735
Speaker 18: I think seven regional competitions and they have to submit

1519
01:25:22,855 --> 01:25:26,175
Speaker 18: a project they've worked on. As a part of that,

1520
01:25:27,095 --> 01:25:29,695
Speaker 18: they get interview and they go you know, judges will

1521
01:25:29,695 --> 01:25:32,295
Speaker 18: go to the workplace and interview their employers. They look

1522
01:25:32,335 --> 01:25:34,855
Speaker 18: at their product knowledge and then they do a practical

1523
01:25:34,975 --> 01:25:37,815
Speaker 18: so I think, and the reasons they build a planter

1524
01:25:37,895 --> 01:25:41,775
Speaker 18: box and from that we identify the seven winners from

1525
01:25:41,815 --> 01:25:44,935
Speaker 18: all the regions and then they come to the national competition,

1526
01:25:45,615 --> 01:25:48,415
Speaker 18: and National starts with the practical which you mentioned on Thursday,

1527
01:25:48,495 --> 01:25:52,295
Speaker 18: so they amazing project to do whole day. So I

1528
01:25:52,335 --> 01:25:55,015
Speaker 18: think they get half an hour to work through their

1529
01:25:55,095 --> 01:25:58,615
Speaker 18: plans and seven hours to build that right, And so

1530
01:25:58,775 --> 01:26:03,415
Speaker 18: that was Thursday. Then on Friday the judges go through

1531
01:26:03,615 --> 01:26:07,295
Speaker 18: another real live project they've submitted and discuss the project

1532
01:26:07,335 --> 01:26:09,735
Speaker 18: and the role that printers have played in the project.

1533
01:26:10,335 --> 01:26:13,455
Speaker 18: They also look at their technical knowledge and skills, yes,

1534
01:26:13,695 --> 01:26:15,815
Speaker 18: and they spend a lot of time looking at their

1535
01:26:15,855 --> 01:26:18,815
Speaker 18: soft skills, their leadership skills, how they're communicating with their

1536
01:26:19,215 --> 01:26:23,535
Speaker 18: bosses and other peers. And the combination of the practical

1537
01:26:23,615 --> 01:26:28,215
Speaker 18: bill and the interviews on Friday, and then we decided

1538
01:26:28,415 --> 01:26:30,135
Speaker 18: the winners for the Prince of there.

1539
01:26:31,015 --> 01:26:33,295
Speaker 7: So it is my great pleasure now to welcome to

1540
01:26:33,375 --> 01:26:36,935
Speaker 7: the show as well, Josh Gallery, who is the winner.

1541
01:26:37,055 --> 01:26:39,815
Speaker 7: Congratulations Josh, thank you very much.

1542
01:26:39,855 --> 01:26:41,095
Speaker 8: Peter, thanks for having me on the show.

1543
01:26:41,455 --> 01:26:44,295
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, it's a real pleasure. So again listening to

1544
01:26:44,415 --> 01:26:47,695
Speaker 7: what was talking about there, so obviously to get to

1545
01:26:47,815 --> 01:26:51,175
Speaker 7: the nationals, you had to win your regional final, which

1546
01:26:51,215 --> 01:26:54,295
Speaker 7: you did. How did you find the process on the

1547
01:26:54,375 --> 01:26:56,655
Speaker 7: Thursday working? I mean, we're all used to working with

1548
01:26:56,735 --> 01:27:00,175
Speaker 7: people watching us, but not necessarily that many people watching you.

1549
01:27:01,775 --> 01:27:06,375
Speaker 8: Yeah, so thankfully after my first mark and cut on

1550
01:27:06,455 --> 01:27:08,455
Speaker 8: the timber, I kind of just had to lock. And

1551
01:27:08,615 --> 01:27:11,775
Speaker 8: then from that point I just didn't even bother looking

1552
01:27:11,855 --> 01:27:15,375
Speaker 8: up until about block when I saw the kids walk

1553
01:27:15,455 --> 01:27:18,375
Speaker 8: in from this so I'll care centers.

1554
01:27:19,375 --> 01:27:22,855
Speaker 7: So a little bit about you, Josh your It seems

1555
01:27:22,895 --> 01:27:26,095
Speaker 7: like the Wye cutto does a particularly good job, because

1556
01:27:26,135 --> 01:27:28,535
Speaker 7: I think last year's Apprentice of the Year winner also

1557
01:27:28,695 --> 01:27:32,375
Speaker 7: came from the White cuttle. What got you into building

1558
01:27:32,415 --> 01:27:33,135
Speaker 7: in the first place.

1559
01:27:34,615 --> 01:27:36,295
Speaker 8: So I was nearing the end of school when I

1560
01:27:36,815 --> 01:27:43,215
Speaker 8: already canceled out university, and I just thought that apprenticeship

1561
01:27:43,215 --> 01:27:45,055
Speaker 8: would be a good idea because I'll be able to

1562
01:27:45,615 --> 01:27:47,215
Speaker 8: earn and learn at the same time.

1563
01:27:48,135 --> 01:27:50,895
Speaker 7: Oh, how fantastic. And that was That's kind of a

1564
01:27:51,015 --> 01:27:53,495
Speaker 7: key driver because I know for lots of people going

1565
01:27:53,575 --> 01:27:57,015
Speaker 7: on to training after school often it's you know, university,

1566
01:27:57,215 --> 01:27:59,575
Speaker 7: it's the possibility of a student loan and that sort

1567
01:27:59,575 --> 01:28:02,095
Speaker 7: of thing. So the thought about training and not having

1568
01:28:02,215 --> 01:28:05,775
Speaker 7: to do that earning as you learn was quite attractive.

1569
01:28:06,615 --> 01:28:07,455
Speaker 8: Yeah, it definitely was.

1570
01:28:07,615 --> 01:28:10,815
Speaker 7: It definitely was. And what about choosing who you did

1571
01:28:10,895 --> 01:28:13,295
Speaker 7: your apprenticeship with, Like, did you do a bit of

1572
01:28:13,375 --> 01:28:16,055
Speaker 7: research around which building company you wanted to work for?

1573
01:28:16,335 --> 01:28:18,735
Speaker 7: Did you have a was it a family connection or

1574
01:28:18,775 --> 01:28:19,215
Speaker 7: a friend.

1575
01:28:20,575 --> 01:28:22,895
Speaker 8: At the start I was doing, I was dabbling with

1576
01:28:22,935 --> 01:28:26,095
Speaker 8: a little bit of family friends, sure, seeing what sort

1577
01:28:26,135 --> 01:28:28,055
Speaker 8: of apprenticeship I wanted. I even tried a bit of

1578
01:28:28,095 --> 01:28:29,375
Speaker 8: plumbing for a couple of weeks.

1579
01:28:29,495 --> 01:28:29,815
Speaker 3: Okay.

1580
01:28:30,535 --> 01:28:34,975
Speaker 8: I ended up settling with carpentry apprenticeship, and I moved

1581
01:28:35,015 --> 01:28:37,175
Speaker 8: over to Hamilton to be closer to my other family.

1582
01:28:37,455 --> 01:28:41,775
Speaker 7: Yes, And so how when did you start your apprenticeship.

1583
01:28:42,895 --> 01:28:45,615
Speaker 8: I started in twenty twenty two, at the start of

1584
01:28:45,695 --> 01:28:46,695
Speaker 8: twenty two.

1585
01:28:46,655 --> 01:28:50,175
Speaker 7: Okay, And you'll finish, You'll finish now, you'll finish shortly.

1586
01:28:50,855 --> 01:28:53,335
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm really close. I'm about ninety six percent through.

1587
01:28:53,655 --> 01:28:55,895
Speaker 7: Okay, and this is just the last bits of the

1588
01:28:55,935 --> 01:28:59,135
Speaker 7: paperwork to get sorted out, maybe a final assessment of

1589
01:28:59,255 --> 01:29:03,335
Speaker 7: the practical yep. So within the firm that you're working,

1590
01:29:03,535 --> 01:29:06,735
Speaker 7: are they starting to give you a bit more responsibility? Now?

1591
01:29:06,855 --> 01:29:09,815
Speaker 7: Are you running any jobs or getting close to running

1592
01:29:09,855 --> 01:29:10,335
Speaker 7: some jobs?

1593
01:29:11,615 --> 01:29:11,655
Speaker 16: So?

1594
01:29:11,815 --> 01:29:15,655
Speaker 8: Yeah, Fortunately, just before the regionals, I progressed into a

1595
01:29:15,735 --> 01:29:19,935
Speaker 8: foreman role and I had the opportunity to construct a

1596
01:29:20,015 --> 01:29:23,255
Speaker 8: new build for my director of the company, so he

1597
01:29:23,375 --> 01:29:26,175
Speaker 8: had a rental building that he wanted to put up.

1598
01:29:26,255 --> 01:29:28,495
Speaker 8: So I was taking full lead on that one.

1599
01:29:29,095 --> 01:29:33,335
Speaker 7: Which is, you know, a pretty impressive task for someone

1600
01:29:33,375 --> 01:29:37,175
Speaker 7: who's you know, relatively young and coming to the end

1601
01:29:37,215 --> 01:29:39,295
Speaker 7: of your apprenticeship. To be able to give to have

1602
01:29:39,415 --> 01:29:42,015
Speaker 7: the opportunity to run a build from beginning to end,

1603
01:29:42,095 --> 01:29:43,055
Speaker 7: I think is tremendous.

1604
01:29:43,895 --> 01:29:46,375
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I just love it. I love the responsibility.

1605
01:29:47,375 --> 01:29:49,935
Speaker 7: Excellent. Actually, that's a fantastic thing to hear, I have

1606
01:29:50,055 --> 01:29:53,335
Speaker 7: to say. And in terms of going forward, Josh, for you,

1607
01:29:54,175 --> 01:29:56,735
Speaker 7: what does you know, what do you think Josh would

1608
01:29:56,735 --> 01:29:59,655
Speaker 7: be doing as a carpenter in ten years time and

1609
01:29:59,735 --> 01:30:02,495
Speaker 7: a twenty years time, in thirty years time, because man,

1610
01:30:02,775 --> 01:30:04,975
Speaker 7: I'm getting close to forty years in this game. So

1611
01:30:05,895 --> 01:30:06,895
Speaker 7: what are you see ahead of you?

1612
01:30:08,175 --> 01:30:12,495
Speaker 8: So for the short while seeing myself, I guess progressing

1613
01:30:12,535 --> 01:30:14,535
Speaker 8: into a bit of a project manager role and then

1614
01:30:15,015 --> 01:30:18,655
Speaker 8: I'm eventually moving into a directive moment my own company.

1615
01:30:18,935 --> 01:30:21,815
Speaker 7: Yep. And in terms of you know, because there's a

1616
01:30:21,855 --> 01:30:24,935
Speaker 7: big step between sort of being a good trades person,

1617
01:30:25,015 --> 01:30:27,775
Speaker 7: which it sounds like you are and are on your

1618
01:30:27,815 --> 01:30:30,655
Speaker 7: way to and then the business owner side of things,

1619
01:30:30,775 --> 01:30:33,415
Speaker 7: so the business side of it that appeals to you

1620
01:30:33,535 --> 01:30:33,855
Speaker 7: as well.

1621
01:30:34,815 --> 01:30:38,735
Speaker 8: Yes, definitely, I already own. I'm co director of another

1622
01:30:38,815 --> 01:30:41,815
Speaker 8: business with my partner at the moment, so just another

1623
01:30:41,895 --> 01:30:43,375
Speaker 8: one would be even better.

1624
01:30:44,495 --> 01:30:47,695
Speaker 7: And going back to the competition, you know, in terms

1625
01:30:47,735 --> 01:30:50,455
Speaker 7: of like the practical thing, how did you go and

1626
01:30:50,575 --> 01:30:53,855
Speaker 7: how did you like? Were you streets ahead of the others,

1627
01:30:53,935 --> 01:30:56,375
Speaker 7: were they chasing your tail? How did that work? How

1628
01:30:56,415 --> 01:30:58,655
Speaker 7: did that feel? At the start?

1629
01:30:58,735 --> 01:31:00,975
Speaker 8: I felt like I was falling behind a bit because

1630
01:31:01,615 --> 01:31:04,255
Speaker 8: after the thirty minute kind of grace period at the start,

1631
01:31:05,975 --> 01:31:09,455
Speaker 8: a few of the boys started erecting their frames, and yes,

1632
01:31:09,775 --> 01:31:13,655
Speaker 8: I had prefab my frames on the ground, so it

1633
01:31:13,735 --> 01:31:16,815
Speaker 8: looked like visually I was a little bit before. But

1634
01:31:16,975 --> 01:31:20,535
Speaker 8: then about thirty minutes later, I just erected all my

1635
01:31:20,615 --> 01:31:23,615
Speaker 8: frames at the same time, and I just had a

1636
01:31:23,655 --> 01:31:27,095
Speaker 8: good flow going on. Yes, And to be honest, I

1637
01:31:27,175 --> 01:31:30,215
Speaker 8: couldn't see if I was ahead or not. It could

1638
01:31:30,215 --> 01:31:31,895
Speaker 8: have been anyone's game at that.

1639
01:31:33,895 --> 01:31:36,535
Speaker 7: And because I came along sort of, I got there

1640
01:31:36,575 --> 01:31:39,175
Speaker 7: around two o'clock, so you know, most of the frames

1641
01:31:39,215 --> 01:31:41,135
Speaker 7: were up, but I was looking at that thinking I

1642
01:31:41,255 --> 01:31:43,775
Speaker 7: wonder how many of them took the time, didn't sort

1643
01:31:43,815 --> 01:31:46,815
Speaker 7: of get panicked and start framing up straight away, that

1644
01:31:46,895 --> 01:31:50,655
Speaker 7: you take the time prefab everything and then assemble rather

1645
01:31:50,775 --> 01:31:53,375
Speaker 7: than kind of a different approach, which is I'll build

1646
01:31:53,415 --> 01:31:55,815
Speaker 7: it as I go type thing. So it sounds like

1647
01:31:55,895 --> 01:31:56,935
Speaker 7: you had a strategy.

1648
01:31:57,935 --> 01:32:00,535
Speaker 8: Yeah, definitely, I had a good system going and knowing

1649
01:32:00,575 --> 01:32:03,935
Speaker 8: that most of the frames were mirrored or ideas, I

1650
01:32:04,015 --> 01:32:07,455
Speaker 8: could have just framed up and then laid my timber

1651
01:32:07,535 --> 01:32:08,895
Speaker 8: on top and brilliant.

1652
01:32:08,935 --> 01:32:11,815
Speaker 7: But to get the next one as well, brilliant. Hey,

1653
01:32:11,855 --> 01:32:15,135
Speaker 7: And again, just thinking about you going forward in the trade,

1654
01:32:15,295 --> 01:32:19,175
Speaker 7: is there a particular part of construction that you're interested in?

1655
01:32:19,615 --> 01:32:19,735
Speaker 8: You know?

1656
01:32:19,775 --> 01:32:22,055
Speaker 7: I mean there's there's a lot of talk around high

1657
01:32:22,095 --> 01:32:24,575
Speaker 7: performance homes for example. Is that something you're interested in.

1658
01:32:25,735 --> 01:32:28,055
Speaker 8: I haven't done too much research on passive homes, but

1659
01:32:28,255 --> 01:32:31,535
Speaker 8: that definitely does spark an interest in me. Sure, I

1660
01:32:31,655 --> 01:32:35,615
Speaker 8: do like the thought of residential construction as well. So

1661
01:32:35,815 --> 01:32:39,255
Speaker 8: just doing lots of reno's and alterations as well, it

1662
01:32:39,455 --> 01:32:40,935
Speaker 8: keeps the brain ticking along.

1663
01:32:41,655 --> 01:32:45,295
Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, And you're right, it's it is a bit

1664
01:32:45,335 --> 01:32:47,775
Speaker 7: of a balance. You've got to have the technical skills,

1665
01:32:47,855 --> 01:32:51,375
Speaker 7: but increasingly. I think, you know, for young people getting

1666
01:32:51,415 --> 01:32:56,895
Speaker 7: into the trades, there's that competency around legislation, understanding plans,

1667
01:32:57,015 --> 01:33:00,935
Speaker 7: project management, business administration, those sorts of things which I

1668
01:33:00,975 --> 01:33:02,775
Speaker 7: think you need that balance between the two.

1669
01:33:03,535 --> 01:33:05,375
Speaker 8: Yeah, one hundred percent where you have to know about

1670
01:33:05,495 --> 01:33:07,415
Speaker 8: plans to get the construction going.

1671
01:33:07,975 --> 01:33:13,335
Speaker 7: Absolutely. Hey, congratulations, Josh, well done. And I think it's

1672
01:33:13,615 --> 01:33:16,255
Speaker 7: you know, it's something that will stay with you. I

1673
01:33:16,335 --> 01:33:18,295
Speaker 7: think to be able to say, hey, I was Master

1674
01:33:18,335 --> 01:33:21,775
Speaker 7: Builders Apprentice of the Year twenty twenty five is tremendous

1675
01:33:21,855 --> 01:33:24,815
Speaker 7: recognition of the work that you do. So congratulations mate.

1676
01:33:25,295 --> 01:33:28,295
Speaker 8: Thank you so much. Peters there also, can I also

1677
01:33:28,415 --> 01:33:32,415
Speaker 8: just point out the end of Mental Health Week, so

1678
01:33:32,615 --> 01:33:36,615
Speaker 8: just yeah, making sure that we're at least I'm staying

1679
01:33:36,655 --> 01:33:39,175
Speaker 8: in touch with our fellow boys and girls on site

1680
01:33:39,295 --> 01:33:41,255
Speaker 8: and the small just just go a long way.

1681
01:33:41,775 --> 01:33:43,815
Speaker 7: You're one hundred percent right, and that's where things like

1682
01:33:43,935 --> 01:33:47,535
Speaker 7: the Mates and Construction Organization do such good work in

1683
01:33:47,575 --> 01:33:48,975
Speaker 7: that space. Yeah.

1684
01:33:49,095 --> 01:33:52,335
Speaker 8: Correct, it's a lucrative industry out here. Sometimes can be

1685
01:33:52,375 --> 01:33:55,735
Speaker 8: cut through it. So yeah, just knowing what our fellow

1686
01:33:55,775 --> 01:33:58,215
Speaker 8: guys are going through because you're probably seeing them more

1687
01:33:58,255 --> 01:33:59,335
Speaker 8: than you do your own family.

1688
01:33:59,575 --> 01:34:01,775
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and look to be fair on site.

1689
01:34:01,815 --> 01:34:04,935
Speaker 7: There's often a lot of oh, there can be a

1690
01:34:04,975 --> 01:34:06,895
Speaker 7: bit of agro and there can be a bit of

1691
01:34:06,975 --> 01:34:08,815
Speaker 7: sort of stern words. There's not a lot of cuddles

1692
01:34:08,855 --> 01:34:13,775
Speaker 7: on site. A yeah, you look after yourself. All the

1693
01:34:13,895 --> 01:34:20,935
Speaker 7: very best to you. And what a tremendous young fellow. Delighted,

1694
01:34:20,935 --> 01:34:22,335
Speaker 7: wouldn't you we are.

1695
01:34:22,455 --> 01:34:25,415
Speaker 18: We're really proud of Josh. I think he truly deserves

1696
01:34:25,455 --> 01:34:28,655
Speaker 18: the title and everything he's just said. He's got an

1697
01:34:28,695 --> 01:34:29,895
Speaker 18: exciting creative him.

1698
01:34:30,015 --> 01:34:32,655
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think so too. Hey mate, we're looking forward

1699
01:34:32,655 --> 01:34:34,535
Speaker 7: to catching up with you because you've got a new

1700
01:34:34,575 --> 01:34:37,415
Speaker 7: initiative as well around actually something that we were talking

1701
01:34:37,455 --> 01:34:42,375
Speaker 7: about earlier, the responsibility for us as lbp's to discuss

1702
01:34:42,495 --> 01:34:46,295
Speaker 7: and to inform our clients. So we'll have a chat

1703
01:34:46,415 --> 01:34:47,335
Speaker 7: about that next week.

1704
01:34:47,375 --> 01:34:49,535
Speaker 18: A sounds great. I look forward look.

1705
01:34:49,455 --> 01:34:51,175
Speaker 7: Forward to it, Take care and get all the best

1706
01:34:51,455 --> 01:34:55,175
Speaker 7: by then. So that was Josh Gully Gallery and he's

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Speaker 7: Apprentice of the Year. That's the Master Builders Competition ward.

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01:34:59,055 --> 01:35:02,335
Speaker 7: An outstanding young man. I think you know, if you

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01:35:02,415 --> 01:35:04,735
Speaker 7: look at the quality of the apprentices that are coming through,

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01:35:06,415 --> 01:35:08,935
Speaker 7: those of us who perhaps are at one end of

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01:35:09,055 --> 01:35:13,055
Speaker 7: the building career. And I know that grumpy old guys

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01:35:13,135 --> 01:35:14,815
Speaker 7: like me tend to go I don't know, you know,

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01:35:14,935 --> 01:35:17,735
Speaker 7: young fellas today or young people today, the blah blah

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01:35:17,815 --> 01:35:20,015
Speaker 7: blah blah blah blah. But you listen to someone like Josh.

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01:35:20,455 --> 01:35:22,855
Speaker 7: He's got his act together and he'll be a fantastic

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01:35:23,095 --> 01:35:27,255
Speaker 7: tradesman carpenter and that's great for all of us going forward.

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Speaker 7: It is eighteen minutes after eight your news talk SEDB.

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01:35:31,455 --> 01:35:34,055
Speaker 1: Doing other house storting the garden asked Pete for a

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01:35:34,135 --> 01:35:37,935
Speaker 1: hand the resident builder with Peter wolfkep call eight hundred

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01:35:38,215 --> 01:35:40,855
Speaker 1: eighty us talk edby just.

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01:35:40,895 --> 01:35:43,015
Speaker 7: Off the back of that conversation with Josh, who was

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01:35:43,135 --> 01:35:45,335
Speaker 7: the Apprentice of the Year winner. This is the Master

1723
01:35:45,415 --> 01:35:49,215
Speaker 7: Builders competition. I got this text from Muzz who texts

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01:35:49,295 --> 01:35:53,215
Speaker 7: him reasonably frequently, which is delightful. Pete, I got Apprentice

1725
01:35:53,255 --> 01:35:56,015
Speaker 7: of the Year in the nineteen nineties as a bricklayer

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01:35:56,295 --> 01:36:00,215
Speaker 7: and one what they call the golden trowel. I taleil

1727
01:36:00,335 --> 01:36:03,015
Speaker 7: now mostly, but honestly, it was one of the best

1728
01:36:03,095 --> 01:36:05,895
Speaker 7: things I did as an apprentice to boost my confidence.

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01:36:06,495 --> 01:36:11,055
Speaker 7: Thanks mus for that. It's awesome. The golden trowel oh,

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01:36:11,175 --> 01:36:14,535
Speaker 7: you can imagine it. That's awesome, muz, thank you very much.

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01:36:15,215 --> 01:36:17,735
Speaker 7: And a couple of other people texting through going gee,

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01:36:17,775 --> 01:36:20,975
Speaker 7: what what an awesome young guy, Young Josh is so

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01:36:21,455 --> 01:36:23,695
Speaker 7: good on you. Well done. Oh eight one hundred and

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01:36:23,735 --> 01:36:27,135
Speaker 7: eighty ten eighty is the number to call Heather, good morning.

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01:36:28,135 --> 01:36:30,455
Speaker 11: Oh high peece Hi there Hi.

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01:36:30,735 --> 01:36:36,215
Speaker 19: I'm looking at purchasing a brick and tile, very sound property.

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01:36:36,455 --> 01:36:39,055
Speaker 19: But in the further terms of sale it says the

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01:36:39,135 --> 01:36:42,575
Speaker 19: picture through acknowledge is of the bathroom. Shower was retiled

1739
01:36:43,015 --> 01:36:46,055
Speaker 19: as part of the light for Light renovation carried out

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01:36:46,095 --> 01:36:49,375
Speaker 19: by the previous owners. No building Consent Code of compliance

1741
01:36:49,495 --> 01:36:54,895
Speaker 19: was attained, which involved for retiling, which involved retiling and

1742
01:36:55,055 --> 01:36:59,135
Speaker 19: waterproofing in the existing shower location with no change to plumbing,

1743
01:36:59,255 --> 01:37:06,015
Speaker 19: layout or structural elements. I'm sort of just wondering if

1744
01:37:06,295 --> 01:37:09,055
Speaker 19: who I should get to. I'm actually not going to

1745
01:37:09,095 --> 01:37:12,895
Speaker 19: get a builder's report. It's pretty okay, but I'm not

1746
01:37:13,255 --> 01:37:17,015
Speaker 19: hugely worried about it. But if I'm successful at getting it,

1747
01:37:17,855 --> 01:37:20,655
Speaker 19: who should I get to check it? And if there

1748
01:37:20,775 --> 01:37:23,855
Speaker 19: is a problem, is it a major to turn around

1749
01:37:23,895 --> 01:37:24,495
Speaker 19: and retile it.

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01:37:26,695 --> 01:37:34,895
Speaker 7: Right again? It's sort of multifaceted the issues there. It's

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01:37:34,935 --> 01:37:37,735
Speaker 7: one of those things like, genuinely, I don't want to

1752
01:37:37,775 --> 01:37:39,855
Speaker 7: make things more complicated than they are, but at the

1753
01:37:39,895 --> 01:37:42,335
Speaker 7: same time, these things can be a little bit complicated,

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01:37:42,455 --> 01:37:44,975
Speaker 7: and there seems to be a difference of opinion. So

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01:37:45,775 --> 01:37:53,055
Speaker 7: how old's the building nineteen seventies, So the tiling work late, Okay,

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01:37:53,175 --> 01:37:56,095
Speaker 7: So when it got consented way back, or when it

1757
01:37:56,135 --> 01:37:58,095
Speaker 7: got a building permit way back, it wouldn't have had

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01:37:58,135 --> 01:38:03,455
Speaker 7: a tile shower. So the tile shower was done sometime

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01:38:03,655 --> 01:38:05,655
Speaker 7: in the last fifteen or twenty years.

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01:38:06,375 --> 01:38:09,295
Speaker 8: Yeah, I would say, so, yeah, okay, at.

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01:38:09,295 --> 01:38:12,175
Speaker 7: That time it probably should have had a building consent.

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01:38:13,215 --> 01:38:15,415
Speaker 7: Now it might not have got one. So the fact

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01:38:15,455 --> 01:38:21,295
Speaker 7: that someone has retiled into an existing one doesn't alter

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01:38:21,415 --> 01:38:23,375
Speaker 7: the fact that it never got a consent in the

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01:38:23,455 --> 01:38:24,055
Speaker 7: first place.

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01:38:26,495 --> 01:38:30,255
Speaker 19: Well, what makes you think it could get Well, look, if.

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01:38:30,175 --> 01:38:34,335
Speaker 7: It did get a consent, is there in the property

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01:38:34,415 --> 01:38:37,375
Speaker 7: file or in the limb. Well, in the limb it

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01:38:37,415 --> 01:38:42,135
Speaker 7: should state clearly. You go through and you'll find the

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01:38:42,375 --> 01:38:46,735
Speaker 7: building consent for tiles and or or for bathroom alteration, right,

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01:38:47,855 --> 01:38:51,575
Speaker 7: And if that's in the limb, then it will also

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01:38:51,735 --> 01:38:55,855
Speaker 7: have attached to it. CCC issued or maybe not issued.

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01:38:56,255 --> 01:38:58,495
Speaker 7: So if, for example, if you read through the limb

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01:38:59,415 --> 01:39:03,495
Speaker 7: and it goes, you know, alterations for a bathroom limb issued,

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01:39:03,895 --> 01:39:07,215
Speaker 7: no problem, and I think then it's it's relatively low

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01:39:07,375 --> 01:39:11,535
Speaker 7: risk in terms of someone retiling that shower. Other people

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01:39:11,615 --> 01:39:16,495
Speaker 7: would probably argue for good reason that redoing the shower,

1778
01:39:16,695 --> 01:39:21,255
Speaker 7: if you did it within fifteen years of the original consent,

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01:39:21,655 --> 01:39:24,415
Speaker 7: would indicate that possibly there's been a failure of the

1780
01:39:24,495 --> 01:39:29,095
Speaker 7: waterproofing system, and therefore it can't be considered maintenance. It's

1781
01:39:29,615 --> 01:39:32,895
Speaker 7: new building work to address a failure. So again that's

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01:39:33,015 --> 01:39:35,175
Speaker 7: part of that complexity.

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01:39:35,295 --> 01:39:39,375
Speaker 19: There can I just say it says no building consent

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01:39:39,535 --> 01:39:43,095
Speaker 19: or Code and Science certificate was obtained for the retiling

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01:39:43,215 --> 01:39:47,415
Speaker 19: work which involved the retiling and waterproofing and the existing

1786
01:39:47,495 --> 01:39:51,095
Speaker 19: shower location. Yeah, and it was difficult for a like

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01:39:52,095 --> 01:39:56,015
Speaker 19: for like renovation because I noticed it, like the bathroom

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01:39:56,375 --> 01:39:57,295
Speaker 19: looks renovated.

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01:39:57,695 --> 01:39:59,215
Speaker 10: It's all these.

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01:39:59,295 --> 01:40:03,335
Speaker 19: Dark brown task but shower is actually black. Right, I've

1791
01:40:03,415 --> 01:40:04,215
Speaker 19: tried to match it.

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01:40:06,455 --> 01:40:08,935
Speaker 7: It would be interesting to know whether they tiled over

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01:40:09,055 --> 01:40:13,095
Speaker 7: the existing tiles or whether they removed the old tiles

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01:40:13,175 --> 01:40:15,495
Speaker 7: to replace it with the black ones that you see

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01:40:18,095 --> 01:40:19,575
Speaker 7: and you'd be able to tell that there might be

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01:40:19,615 --> 01:40:22,135
Speaker 7: a little step out or something like that, because again,

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01:40:22,775 --> 01:40:25,535
Speaker 7: you know, the concern is that when you remove tiles

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01:40:26,135 --> 01:40:29,735
Speaker 7: from a waterproof surface, you're going to damage the waterproofing, right,

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01:40:29,815 --> 01:40:32,575
Speaker 7: there's no practical way to do that, in which case

1800
01:40:32,655 --> 01:40:36,575
Speaker 7: then you've compromised the waterproofing. So we all want to

1801
01:40:36,615 --> 01:40:40,455
Speaker 7: make sure that the waterproofing works properly, and often the

1802
01:40:40,815 --> 01:40:42,535
Speaker 7: process for that is to ensure that you have a

1803
01:40:42,575 --> 01:40:45,415
Speaker 7: building consent and a building inspection. The inspector looks at it,

1804
01:40:45,535 --> 01:40:49,055
Speaker 7: signs off the waterproofing and says that's up to building code,

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01:40:49,335 --> 01:40:51,735
Speaker 7: go ahead and tile. So if you don't have that

1806
01:40:51,935 --> 01:40:54,575
Speaker 7: part of the puzzle, then there's always a question mark.

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01:40:55,015 --> 01:40:57,415
Speaker 7: You know, did they just pull the tiles off and

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01:40:57,815 --> 01:41:00,575
Speaker 7: whack new tiles on? Do I know that the waterproofing

1809
01:41:00,695 --> 01:41:03,855
Speaker 7: is in good condition? You know what might give you

1810
01:41:03,975 --> 01:41:06,895
Speaker 7: some surety is if the person who did the work

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01:41:07,055 --> 01:41:12,615
Speaker 7: issued a producer statement and attached to that information about

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01:41:12,655 --> 01:41:15,935
Speaker 7: the waterproofing that they used and some evidence that they

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01:41:16,455 --> 01:41:19,175
Speaker 7: did the work in compliance with the building coat. Then

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01:41:19,255 --> 01:41:22,055
Speaker 7: you'd feel a bit more sure about that. And also

1815
01:41:22,215 --> 01:41:23,735
Speaker 7: you could use that if you did want to go

1816
01:41:23,815 --> 01:41:26,615
Speaker 7: to council and formalize this and go, here's the evidence

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01:41:26,655 --> 01:41:29,175
Speaker 7: that it was done in accordance with the building code.

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01:41:30,055 --> 01:41:33,775
Speaker 19: Right, they involved retailing and waterproofing.

1819
01:41:34,695 --> 01:41:37,855
Speaker 7: Yes, What would be interesting is if that work was

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01:41:37,975 --> 01:41:41,135
Speaker 7: done and how long ago do you think that that

1821
01:41:41,335 --> 01:41:42,535
Speaker 7: most recent work was done.

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01:41:43,535 --> 01:41:45,375
Speaker 19: Yeah, I think these people have had it for.

1823
01:41:46,895 --> 01:41:48,575
Speaker 12: Quite a what seven years or something?

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01:41:49,575 --> 01:41:52,895
Speaker 19: Yeah, I'm I'm entirely sure. Actually, but the previous owners,

1825
01:41:52,975 --> 01:41:54,775
Speaker 19: not the people that I'm buying it off.

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01:41:55,015 --> 01:41:56,255
Speaker 7: Yeah, sure, yep.

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01:41:57,615 --> 01:41:57,815
Speaker 18: Yeah.

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01:41:59,375 --> 01:42:02,575
Speaker 7: Again, you know, maybe they've got some information about who

1829
01:42:02,615 --> 01:42:05,935
Speaker 7: did the work, what type of waterproofing. Maybe they even

1830
01:42:05,975 --> 01:42:10,575
Speaker 7: had a photograph of the waterproofing, which would be really

1831
01:42:10,615 --> 01:42:11,215
Speaker 7: really useful.

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01:42:12,135 --> 01:42:15,135
Speaker 19: Yes, when you say whether they pulled it off and

1833
01:42:15,255 --> 01:42:17,575
Speaker 19: just retiled of whether they retailed over the top, is

1834
01:42:17,575 --> 01:42:19,655
Speaker 19: it better to actually just retil over the top because

1835
01:42:19,655 --> 01:42:22,575
Speaker 19: then you're not interfering with the waterproofing underneath.

1836
01:42:23,495 --> 01:42:26,855
Speaker 7: That would be one approach, you know, So you go, Actually,

1837
01:42:27,455 --> 01:42:29,975
Speaker 7: the biggest risk is when you're taking the tiles off,

1838
01:42:30,015 --> 01:42:33,815
Speaker 7: you're going to compromise the waterproofing. Now, if you strip

1839
01:42:33,895 --> 01:42:36,175
Speaker 7: all the tiles off and you clean off all of

1840
01:42:36,215 --> 01:42:40,135
Speaker 7: the existing waterproofing and you re waterproof from a clean substrate,

1841
01:42:40,495 --> 01:42:43,815
Speaker 7: you'll get a really good job. But it's possible that

1842
01:42:43,935 --> 01:42:47,215
Speaker 7: someone just pops the tiles off. You know the waterproofing's

1843
01:42:47,215 --> 01:42:49,575
Speaker 7: a bit damaged, Well, it'll be okay, and I'll just

1844
01:42:49,655 --> 01:42:51,815
Speaker 7: tile over the top. Whereas you know, if the old

1845
01:42:51,895 --> 01:42:53,855
Speaker 7: tile stayed there and you put a new layer over

1846
01:42:53,935 --> 01:42:57,055
Speaker 7: the top, as long as the adhesion's good, you know

1847
01:42:57,175 --> 01:42:59,975
Speaker 7: that you haven't compromised the waterproofing. And if the waterproofing

1848
01:43:00,215 --> 01:43:03,255
Speaker 7: isn't the reason for the change. I had a leak

1849
01:43:03,335 --> 01:43:05,335
Speaker 7: and there's water puling on the other side of the wall,

1850
01:43:05,735 --> 01:43:08,255
Speaker 7: then again you can be fairly confident. And then in

1851
01:43:08,335 --> 01:43:12,335
Speaker 7: that sense you would also be quite clear that that

1852
01:43:12,575 --> 01:43:15,735
Speaker 7: work wouldn't require a building consent because you haven't compromised

1853
01:43:15,735 --> 01:43:21,055
Speaker 7: the water preffing. So different approach. But I think given

1854
01:43:21,135 --> 01:43:23,775
Speaker 7: that the work, you know, I'd go back through the

1855
01:43:23,855 --> 01:43:26,975
Speaker 7: agent and go is there any evidence that the work

1856
01:43:27,735 --> 01:43:30,655
Speaker 7: of any evidence that the work was done in accordance

1857
01:43:30,655 --> 01:43:31,415
Speaker 7: with the building code?

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01:43:32,695 --> 01:43:32,975
Speaker 12: Okay?

1859
01:43:33,095 --> 01:43:33,855
Speaker 3: And if I wanted to.

1860
01:43:35,935 --> 01:43:38,015
Speaker 19: Do I get a plumber or a moisture.

1861
01:43:39,055 --> 01:43:42,615
Speaker 7: I would probably get a suitably qualified pre purchase inspector

1862
01:43:42,695 --> 01:43:44,535
Speaker 7: to come and do it. And you could do if

1863
01:43:44,575 --> 01:43:47,135
Speaker 7: you can get access to the walls behind the shower,

1864
01:43:47,255 --> 01:43:49,415
Speaker 7: for example, if it's a hallway or a bedroom or

1865
01:43:49,855 --> 01:43:52,255
Speaker 7: laundry or whatever it is, you could do. You could

1866
01:43:52,295 --> 01:43:54,895
Speaker 7: take some moisture readings. Is it onto a concrete slab

1867
01:43:55,095 --> 01:44:02,295
Speaker 7: or onto a timber floors? Okay I'm not sure again,

1868
01:44:02,375 --> 01:44:04,295
Speaker 7: you know, it sort of changes the risk. If it's

1869
01:44:04,415 --> 01:44:06,215
Speaker 7: timber floor, that's great because you can crawl on the

1870
01:44:06,495 --> 01:44:09,055
Speaker 7: floor and lock up and see whether it's leaking. If

1871
01:44:09,135 --> 01:44:11,335
Speaker 7: it's onto a concrete slab, then you really need to

1872
01:44:11,415 --> 01:44:14,615
Speaker 7: do some moisture testing to see what might be happening.

1873
01:44:14,735 --> 01:44:16,855
Speaker 7: So a moisture test probably not a bad idea in

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01:44:16,935 --> 01:44:22,175
Speaker 7: that instance. All the very best to you, Heather, take care,

1875
01:44:22,295 --> 01:44:24,855
Speaker 7: nice to chat all of this hate before we jump

1876
01:44:24,895 --> 01:44:28,935
Speaker 7: into the garden again. Lovely text from Trish Pete. What

1877
01:44:29,055 --> 01:44:32,815
Speaker 7: an inspirational young man Josh is. He is everything that

1878
01:44:33,015 --> 01:44:36,575
Speaker 7: is good in Kiwi's humble, hard working thinking of others.

1879
01:44:36,655 --> 01:44:39,815
Speaker 7: With his advice to look out for your workmates mental health,

1880
01:44:39,975 --> 01:44:44,775
Speaker 7: I was blowing away. Thanks for having him on the show, Trish. Likewise,

1881
01:44:44,935 --> 01:44:48,055
Speaker 7: I think he's a tremendous young man who will do

1882
01:44:48,375 --> 01:44:51,775
Speaker 7: incredibly well and you're right. He is the best of us. Oh,

1883
01:44:51,855 --> 01:44:54,295
Speaker 7: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Let's jump into the garden.

1884
01:44:54,415 --> 01:44:57,655
Speaker 7: A red climb pasted on standby. We're into the garden.

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Speaker 1: Whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing the fens, or wondering

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01:45:01,735 --> 01:45:03,895
Speaker 1: how to fix that hole in the wall. Give FEEDI

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