1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,547 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:12,027 Speaker 1: from News Talk Z'B. 3 00:00:12,707 --> 00:00:16,547 Speaker 2: Sunday afternoon means James mcconey at around about this time, Hello, mate, 4 00:00:17,467 --> 00:00:18,187 Speaker 2: get a pinney. 5 00:00:18,267 --> 00:00:22,307 Speaker 3: Yeah, please excuse the cicadas. I'm in karfire again. But 6 00:00:22,347 --> 00:00:24,387 Speaker 3: those cicadas are the reason why when they filmed the 7 00:00:24,467 --> 00:00:27,387 Speaker 3: last Summer I down in Tartanaki and they had to 8 00:00:27,427 --> 00:00:28,707 Speaker 3: redub it all in post. 9 00:00:30,227 --> 00:00:32,147 Speaker 2: The cicadas wanted the starring role. 10 00:00:32,827 --> 00:00:35,467 Speaker 3: Yeah, they couldn't hit Tom Cruise. He wanted to be heard. 11 00:00:36,507 --> 00:00:38,587 Speaker 2: I think that's probably fair enough given what he was 12 00:00:39,027 --> 00:00:42,507 Speaker 2: being paid for the movie. Anyway, we digress. I think 13 00:00:42,547 --> 00:00:45,227 Speaker 2: Chris Wood is about a biggest star as Tom Cruise 14 00:00:45,267 --> 00:00:46,147 Speaker 2: right now. What do you reckon? 15 00:00:46,947 --> 00:00:51,547 Speaker 3: Oh? Massive, definitely bigger than Tom Cruise and also probably 16 00:00:51,547 --> 00:00:56,587 Speaker 3: bringing big front men back. We've kind of skirtered around 17 00:00:56,667 --> 00:00:59,627 Speaker 3: that subject in previous years. But seventeen goals as best 18 00:00:59,667 --> 00:01:03,067 Speaker 3: hall ever in the Premier League season and we're only 19 00:01:03,267 --> 00:01:05,707 Speaker 3: two thirds of the way through. So this is just 20 00:01:05,707 --> 00:01:08,667 Speaker 3: an incredible stuff from Chris Wood with his hat trick 21 00:01:09,147 --> 00:01:12,307 Speaker 3: last night against Brighton. But I think it changes the 22 00:01:12,347 --> 00:01:14,747 Speaker 3: game to me. I think a lot of teams will 23 00:01:14,787 --> 00:01:17,707 Speaker 3: be thinking about a proper front man. Now. I know 24 00:01:17,867 --> 00:01:20,507 Speaker 3: Harland has kind of been that for Man City, but 25 00:01:20,947 --> 00:01:22,827 Speaker 3: he's a bit of different beast because he's got all 26 00:01:22,827 --> 00:01:26,067 Speaker 3: that speed. I think, really what you're looking at Chris 27 00:01:26,067 --> 00:01:28,867 Speaker 3: Wood as just somebody who gives them the perfect target, 28 00:01:28,947 --> 00:01:30,907 Speaker 3: knows how to find the back of the net, and 29 00:01:30,987 --> 00:01:34,067 Speaker 3: has you know, can score in a multitude of ways, 30 00:01:34,107 --> 00:01:37,267 Speaker 3: which is really shown now. He's not just a heater 31 00:01:37,387 --> 00:01:38,507 Speaker 3: from the six yard box. 32 00:01:38,627 --> 00:01:41,587 Speaker 2: Indeed, I'm glad the old fashion number nine is coming 33 00:01:41,627 --> 00:01:44,907 Speaker 2: back into fashion because you know, for a while, we 34 00:01:44,947 --> 00:01:46,747 Speaker 2: didn't see that type of player, did we. Everyone was 35 00:01:46,787 --> 00:01:49,227 Speaker 2: sort of a nippy winger or a creative number ten. 36 00:01:49,627 --> 00:01:51,267 Speaker 2: I'm not sure there was a place for the for 37 00:01:51,307 --> 00:01:52,667 Speaker 2: the Chris Woods of this world. 38 00:01:53,427 --> 00:01:56,947 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you think about it, like Argentina went 39 00:01:56,987 --> 00:02:00,947 Speaker 3: from a beautiful number nine and Buddistusa to the messy years, right, 40 00:02:01,107 --> 00:02:02,987 Speaker 3: and of course in the end it had got them 41 00:02:02,987 --> 00:02:06,027 Speaker 3: a World Cup, But I was painful for a long 42 00:02:06,067 --> 00:02:08,427 Speaker 3: time there, and I think it would have it would 43 00:02:08,427 --> 00:02:11,027 Speaker 3: have they would have benefited from having someone like that. 44 00:02:11,227 --> 00:02:13,547 Speaker 3: I mean, they they dabbled with it. Chris Bow. I'm 45 00:02:13,547 --> 00:02:16,667 Speaker 3: getting deep into football territory here. But I just think 46 00:02:16,707 --> 00:02:20,747 Speaker 3: what Chris has done is phenomenal and also probably shows 47 00:02:20,787 --> 00:02:23,747 Speaker 3: that in its first let's say five or six years 48 00:02:23,827 --> 00:02:26,747 Speaker 3: of a profession of being a professional footballer, he probably 49 00:02:26,787 --> 00:02:29,827 Speaker 3: wasn't all that professional. But now he is the gold standard. 50 00:02:30,027 --> 00:02:32,627 Speaker 3: He's the guy who's really pretty much found focus. And 51 00:02:32,667 --> 00:02:36,787 Speaker 3: whether it's having other business interests like you know, the 52 00:02:36,827 --> 00:02:40,307 Speaker 3: horses that he's that he owns, and and also you 53 00:02:40,347 --> 00:02:42,947 Speaker 3: know with getting married and all these things, I think 54 00:02:43,027 --> 00:02:47,467 Speaker 3: Chris would and out now the dad has turned a 55 00:02:47,547 --> 00:02:52,107 Speaker 3: page professionally where he just is really going to be 56 00:02:52,107 --> 00:02:54,587 Speaker 3: a force to be reckoned with. Should be all whites 57 00:02:54,667 --> 00:02:56,547 Speaker 3: make the World Cup and I think they will give 58 00:02:56,627 --> 00:02:59,107 Speaker 3: him that. It has to be the best for Oceania 59 00:02:59,267 --> 00:03:01,307 Speaker 3: and with him at the at the hell, I'm surely 60 00:03:01,347 --> 00:03:01,947 Speaker 3: we're going through. 61 00:03:02,227 --> 00:03:05,027 Speaker 2: I would have to think so. And alongside him, you'd 62 00:03:05,067 --> 00:03:07,427 Speaker 2: have to think there'll be a few AUCKLANDFC players as well, 63 00:03:07,467 --> 00:03:10,827 Speaker 2: particularly given the way they're going right now. Speaking of 64 00:03:11,027 --> 00:03:13,707 Speaker 2: sticking it in the mixer as they do for Chris Wood, 65 00:03:13,907 --> 00:03:16,507 Speaker 2: Francis Devrees is getting pretty good at that and lous 66 00:03:16,587 --> 00:03:19,347 Speaker 2: Verstrata with a goal yesterday and Auckland are five points 67 00:03:19,347 --> 00:03:20,107 Speaker 2: clear at the top. 68 00:03:20,907 --> 00:03:24,347 Speaker 3: Well, I do want to talk about Francis Derese. Frankie says, Relax, 69 00:03:24,747 --> 00:03:29,067 Speaker 3: I've got this. Anyone there from the eighties, Hello, got ya, 70 00:03:29,107 --> 00:03:34,787 Speaker 3: I've got ya. But he with no diverse, no wins, 71 00:03:34,867 --> 00:03:37,987 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. His delivery is so good. I 72 00:03:37,987 --> 00:03:41,147 Speaker 3: think he saved the club at least in four games. 73 00:03:41,147 --> 00:03:43,467 Speaker 3: But also in terms of assists, he must be leading 74 00:03:43,467 --> 00:03:46,787 Speaker 3: the A League, poney, because it's just mounting up and 75 00:03:46,827 --> 00:03:50,707 Speaker 3: it's about time we look at the person who was 76 00:03:50,947 --> 00:03:53,187 Speaker 3: laying it on the assists because they don't always get 77 00:03:53,187 --> 00:03:55,307 Speaker 3: the headlines. There always used to be the goal scorer, 78 00:03:55,307 --> 00:03:57,187 Speaker 3: even if it was a tap in from one yard, 79 00:03:57,507 --> 00:03:59,707 Speaker 3: they'd get their headlines. But as far as I'm concerned, 80 00:03:59,827 --> 00:04:02,147 Speaker 3: it should be all about Therese. And yeah, I think 81 00:04:02,187 --> 00:04:03,507 Speaker 3: he's got to go to the World Cup. 82 00:04:03,587 --> 00:04:06,827 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he is. I mean, he's more and 83 00:04:06,907 --> 00:04:09,827 Speaker 2: more appealing as Libby Cocaci's backup. But I've seen a 84 00:04:09,827 --> 00:04:12,187 Speaker 2: bit of narrative around at the moment saying I imagine 85 00:04:12,187 --> 00:04:16,027 Speaker 2: Francis Dvrees putting in these wonderful crosses for Chris Wood. 86 00:04:16,227 --> 00:04:17,707 Speaker 2: Feels like a match made in Heaven. 87 00:04:18,547 --> 00:04:21,427 Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing. I think Libby Coucachi is versatile. 88 00:04:21,467 --> 00:04:23,667 Speaker 3: I know he's mainly played left back his career, but 89 00:04:24,507 --> 00:04:26,387 Speaker 3: if you look at the way he's developed and ital 90 00:04:26,467 --> 00:04:28,987 Speaker 3: he's very comfortable on the ball. I think he could 91 00:04:28,987 --> 00:04:31,627 Speaker 3: play left side of midfield or even inside left if 92 00:04:32,707 --> 00:04:35,387 Speaker 3: you know someone like Sarbrey wasn't available. I think you 93 00:04:35,427 --> 00:04:37,907 Speaker 3: can push him further upfield. He's got a Howards are 94 00:04:37,947 --> 00:04:40,507 Speaker 3: of a shot on him, Libby. So yeah, I'll bring 95 00:04:40,507 --> 00:04:41,027 Speaker 3: on Devise. 96 00:04:41,107 --> 00:04:43,587 Speaker 2: I say, indeed, all right, Six Nations is underway. We've 97 00:04:43,627 --> 00:04:46,347 Speaker 2: had the first weekend. Gee, Wales aren't having much fun 98 00:04:46,347 --> 00:04:47,107 Speaker 2: at the moment, are they? 99 00:04:48,227 --> 00:04:51,987 Speaker 3: And I feel sorry for Warren Gatlin. You know, gatz 100 00:04:52,307 --> 00:04:54,707 Speaker 3: is a good man and he's very loyal and you 101 00:04:54,747 --> 00:04:56,547 Speaker 3: know I had that. He even turned down the England 102 00:04:56,667 --> 00:04:59,867 Speaker 3: job to stay with Wales, mainly because he wouldn't have 103 00:04:59,867 --> 00:05:02,547 Speaker 3: been allowed back in Wales to that to his house 104 00:05:02,587 --> 00:05:06,227 Speaker 3: for the owns. There their reasons, but also it's out 105 00:05:06,267 --> 00:05:08,947 Speaker 3: of loyalty and he said, look, I'll help you rebuild. 106 00:05:09,187 --> 00:05:11,467 Speaker 3: And the problem is he is deep in a rebuild 107 00:05:11,867 --> 00:05:14,347 Speaker 3: and this is what happens. You will fall, You'll lose 108 00:05:14,387 --> 00:05:18,467 Speaker 3: by almost fifty points to France and that's what happened yesterday. 109 00:05:18,547 --> 00:05:22,987 Speaker 3: So look, I think they should persevere with him through 110 00:05:23,027 --> 00:05:26,147 Speaker 3: the Six Nations, but you know it's going to be 111 00:05:26,147 --> 00:05:27,747 Speaker 3: tough for Whales. They even look at some of the 112 00:05:28,147 --> 00:05:30,627 Speaker 3: players they're bringing on that there's a young first five 113 00:05:30,747 --> 00:05:33,587 Speaker 3: called Dan Edwards who's going to be the future savior 114 00:05:33,627 --> 00:05:36,187 Speaker 3: for Wales. He will be really good. But he made 115 00:05:36,227 --> 00:05:38,987 Speaker 3: his test debut coming on and it was twenty one 116 00:05:39,107 --> 00:05:42,787 Speaker 3: or twenty eight mil yesterday off the bench. That's that 117 00:05:42,947 --> 00:05:45,907 Speaker 3: is a proper baptism of a fire for him. And 118 00:05:45,987 --> 00:05:48,587 Speaker 3: he's not ready yet, but hey, and a few years 119 00:05:48,587 --> 00:05:51,707 Speaker 3: he could be. And Gatts has shown even when he 120 00:05:51,787 --> 00:05:54,387 Speaker 3: was the Chief Chiefs and had that terrible losing streak, 121 00:05:54,747 --> 00:05:57,587 Speaker 3: you can see the players he brought through tu point 122 00:05:57,627 --> 00:06:03,667 Speaker 3: By Summersony Tokyoho, Quintupia, all under his tutelage came through 123 00:06:03,667 --> 00:06:08,227 Speaker 3: in those horrible the thirteen game win losing streak. Sorry, 124 00:06:08,587 --> 00:06:11,307 Speaker 3: but hey, the this key. He's doing well for Ireland, 125 00:06:11,347 --> 00:06:13,387 Speaker 3: so not not so bad, not so bad. 126 00:06:13,787 --> 00:06:16,747 Speaker 2: I finished with the NFL in Super Bowl, which I 127 00:06:16,747 --> 00:06:19,707 Speaker 2: think is tomorrow week, isn't it. They normally have quite 128 00:06:19,707 --> 00:06:21,307 Speaker 2: a big build up to this. They an't that big 129 00:06:21,347 --> 00:06:24,067 Speaker 2: week of festivities and celebrations. 130 00:06:24,867 --> 00:06:29,307 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's lots of media days. Can you remember Marshall 131 00:06:29,107 --> 00:06:31,507 Speaker 3: and Lynch said I'm only here because they made me. 132 00:06:31,907 --> 00:06:37,267 Speaker 3: They made me. Yeah, so his quote, he repeated that quote. 133 00:06:37,267 --> 00:06:39,627 Speaker 3: I think they're a bit more media friendly, both these teams. 134 00:06:39,667 --> 00:06:42,947 Speaker 3: But it is the match made in let's call it 135 00:06:43,027 --> 00:06:48,347 Speaker 3: ratings Heaven because you've got Taylor Swift against the Philadelphia Eagles. 136 00:06:48,387 --> 00:06:55,387 Speaker 3: So Taylor Swift, of course is Travis Kelcey's girlfriend, and 137 00:06:55,507 --> 00:06:59,187 Speaker 3: she's she's going to be here. Patrick Mahomes as the 138 00:06:59,267 --> 00:07:01,627 Speaker 3: quarterback and they're going for a three peat, which has 139 00:07:01,627 --> 00:07:05,827 Speaker 3: ever been done. But meanwhile you've got the Philadelphia Eagles 140 00:07:05,907 --> 00:07:08,827 Speaker 3: and of course already had a pretty star studded scene. 141 00:07:08,947 --> 00:07:11,787 Speaker 3: We've got Patrick Malarta who's got plucked from South Sydney 142 00:07:11,827 --> 00:07:15,307 Speaker 3: Rabbit Ohs to be a big offensive lineman. So there's 143 00:07:15,347 --> 00:07:18,587 Speaker 3: a bit of down Under flavor pacifica flavor there. But 144 00:07:18,707 --> 00:07:23,147 Speaker 3: also Saquon Barclay is the man who everybody will remember 145 00:07:23,227 --> 00:07:27,427 Speaker 3: doing the reverse hurdle jumping a player going backwards this 146 00:07:27,587 --> 00:07:30,387 Speaker 3: year and he's just been a total superstar. So a 147 00:07:30,427 --> 00:07:32,547 Speaker 3: lot to like and dare I say it, I'm going 148 00:07:32,587 --> 00:07:33,227 Speaker 3: for Chief Manner. 149 00:07:34,307 --> 00:07:37,427 Speaker 2: Well, what a surprise, What a surprise, back to the 150 00:07:37,467 --> 00:07:40,267 Speaker 2: cicadas for you. Let's chat again next Sunday, shall we? 151 00:07:41,107 --> 00:07:42,947 Speaker 3: Yep? 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