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Speaker 2: What are you welcome today? The Minister and here r

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Speaker 2: p Hall of going to school. Some consider unrule cough coverage,

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Speaker 2: as Scott Robertson on his trip to Argentina taxpayer money

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Speaker 2: to make reality. Telly Cathrin Field is our EU connection

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Speaker 2: in Rod Little might well be with us from under

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Speaker 2: the beat as Flores Rolsword Hosky Welcome to the day,

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Speaker 2: seven past six. Several bits out of the NCEEA changes

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Speaker 2: Erica Stamford with us after seven to thirty. Firstly, the

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Speaker 2: New Zealand Certificate of Education actually sounds like something, doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: I mean the same way an A tells you something.

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Speaker 2: The New Zealand Certificate or Advanced Certificate of Education is

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Speaker 2: a thing you can get your head around, as in

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Speaker 2: do you have one or do you not? I mean

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Speaker 2: NCEEA is an acronym under the changes. You need to

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Speaker 2: pass things, how wonderfully old fashioned. If you don't pass,

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Speaker 2: you don't advance. Therefore, when you do pass, it actually counts.

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Speaker 2: It means something having watched NCEEA in action with our

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Speaker 2: five kids. It has been shocking. Virtually anyone could get it,

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Speaker 2: and that was and is never a good thing. Under

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Speaker 2: the new regime, you take five subjects you need to

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Speaker 2: pass for. Nothing too complicated about that. I would have

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Speaker 2: thought the compulsion around maths and language. I'm actually a

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Speaker 2: bit sad about. Choice is good. Freedom is good if

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Speaker 2: you know what you're doing, if you're aiming somewhere specific,

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Speaker 2: A tailored approach is vastly more appealing. But in a

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Speaker 2: mass system you are vulnerable to the chances and the

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Speaker 2: weakest links, and they were always going to take the

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Speaker 2: joke's subjects, the easy gets, and as such wreck any

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Speaker 2: reputation you might have hoped for, run your qualification. The

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Speaker 2: vocational aspect is years overdue gateway inversions like it's sort

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Speaker 2: of touched on the trades and specific careers or jobs.

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Speaker 2: But this fascination of not obsession, we seem to have

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Speaker 2: had with the university has been ruinous for too many.

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Speaker 2: Being a trade is actually to be admired, It's not

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Speaker 2: a second prize. The snobbishness around a university degree has

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Speaker 2: got so absurd. You've ended up with any number of

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Speaker 2: bewildered teenagers chasing arts, degrees and b comms for no

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Speaker 2: discernible and other than that's what they thought they should do.

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Speaker 2: I'm dreadfully sad though, for the thousands of kids who

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Speaker 2: have been messed around within CEA. What's its value? I mean,

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Speaker 2: what weight does a generation of kids place on a

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Speaker 2: thing that's been binned? For some they got locked down

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Speaker 2: in COVID as well, given a crap qualification. Thanks for coming,

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Speaker 2: but onwards and upwards. It's a little bit back to

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Speaker 2: the future. But along with the mad open classrooms, isn't

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Speaker 2: it fascinating how forward the old days appear to be.

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Speaker 1: Wow, News of the world in ninety seconds start.

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Speaker 2: In the Middle East, there are claims aid is flowing.

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Speaker 2: These guys are not convinced.

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Speaker 3: I wish they were just deliver aid through the crossing.

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Speaker 4: This is not a humane practice.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean just thirty percent of people are able

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Speaker 5: to receive aid and the rest do not receive anything.

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Speaker 2: What follows is in fighting and stabbing. This guy is though,

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Speaker 2: we want the people fed and we're the only country

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Speaker 2: that's really doing that.

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Speaker 6: We're putting up money to get the people fed.

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Speaker 7: And Steve would go is doing a great job, and

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Speaker 7: we want.

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Speaker 3: Israel to get up better.

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Speaker 8: We're giving some pretty big contributions.

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Speaker 2: And this guy, he's still working hard to convince the

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Speaker 9: We must continue to stand together and fight together to

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Speaker 9: achieve the war goals we have set all of them,

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Speaker 9: the defeat of the enemy, the release of our hostages,

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Speaker 9: and the assurance that Gaza will no longer pose a

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Speaker 2: Now they're just sect the R I G by the way.

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Speaker 2: I'll work you through that in the moment. Then and

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Speaker 2: brook a couple of things. Firstly, the promise to stop

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Speaker 2: the boats is guess what.

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Speaker 1: This is.

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Speaker 10: An issue that is very complex and there's no one

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Speaker 10: silver bullet that's going to fix it. So anyone who

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Speaker 10: thinks that it's going to be fixed immediately with the

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Speaker 10: pressing of one button doesn't understand.

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Speaker 2: No. And then we have the whither our latest name

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Speaker 2: storm is called Floris and that means the trains in

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Speaker 2: Scotland are heaven travel.

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Speaker 8: Trees on the lane or trees on the overhead wires,

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Speaker 8: which is called for significant disruption across the country. We've

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Speaker 8: also from the start of service we had speed restrictions

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Speaker 2: The time it couldn't be worse because the fringes in

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Speaker 4: And pay percent of the total number performances that have

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Speaker 4: had to be canceled. Obviously, we need to put the

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Speaker 4: safety of audiences first. We need to make sure that

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Speaker 4: people can travel to and take part in the fringe

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Speaker 4: as best they can and as safely as they can.

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Speaker 2: Finally, from the food file, new research once again in

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Speaker 2: the UK, it's back the benefits of cooked home cooked

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Speaker 2: versus ultra process food. Probably not a surprise, there is

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Speaker 2: the world's though largest and longest randomized controlled clinical trial

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Speaker 2: of ultra process food. It found that you lose twice

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Speaker 2: as much weight if you stay away from the store

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Speaker 2: board stuff. The weight loss from the minimally processed home

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Speaker 2: cooked was two percent over eight weeks, which would equate

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Speaker 2: to thirteen percent for me nine percent for women throughout

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Speaker 2: a year. That, by the way, doesn't include exercise or

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Speaker 2: dropping food intake. Less than one percent of people in

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Speaker 2: the UK followed the government's nutritional recommendations, and that's because

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Speaker 2: they love chip butties and that is news the world.

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Speaker 2: In ninety Yeah, the AG in Israel, General Gai Miara

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Speaker 2: voted the government unanimously to sack her as ag abusing

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Speaker 2: her authority to undermind the government's policies and destabilize Israel's

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Speaker 2: rule of law. The right wing had been after her

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Speaker 2: for a while, so you never can tell whether this

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Speaker 2: is her being incompetent or them just being political, but

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Speaker 2: it is what it is. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: How of my news talks, evy, See, here's your problem.

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Speaker 2: You heard from Trump the other day in Scotland. Right,

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Speaker 2: So Ursula goes to Scotland. They got a deal. Well,

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Speaker 2: no they don't, because the EU have announced this morning

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Speaker 2: they're suspending their planned countermeasures because they want more negotiations.

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Speaker 2: So Catherine Field shortly fifteen past Buddy's dole of taking money,

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Speaker 2: jo Am I Wealth, Andrew Caller, Hurt Good Tuesday morning there,

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Speaker 2: Good morning mine. And if there's someone we can count

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Speaker 2: on apart from the farmers in this economy, it is

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Speaker 11: He got old briscos Hey. We've got reporting season coming

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Speaker 11: up in the next few weeks. That'll give us another

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Speaker 11: forward to that. Yeah, But we had a couple of

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Speaker 11: announcements yesterday from local companies which I think are worth highlighting. Briscoes, Yes,

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Speaker 11: local retail sector. I think it's also widely recognized as

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Speaker 11: one of the most resilient and successful retailers in the country. Look,

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Speaker 11: I think we can characterize this announcement as good news.

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Speaker 11: I think we can because they have seen some momentum

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Speaker 11: return to sales, so their home where sales they've seen

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Speaker 3: Of trading a smidgeon under four percent.

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Speaker 11: That's after their first quarter was impacted by a pretty

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Speaker 11: slow start to winter. But unfortunately, offsetting that, they're sporting goods,

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Speaker 11: so I think rebel sport they've had a sales decline

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Speaker 11: there of one point three to four percent for the quarter. Now,

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Speaker 11: sporting goods are being seen as more sensitive to that

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Speaker 11: to the strength of discretionary spense. So that in turn

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Speaker 11: reflects your tough economic environment and your subdued consumer seat.

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Speaker 11: But you wrap them together, sales and total just over

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Speaker 11: a bad outcome. Margin's still under pressure though. Brisco shareholders

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Speaker 11: they've been well rewarded this year. I mean the share

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Speaker 11: six bucks. That's not a bad going. But they've had

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Speaker 2: What do you make of that?

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Speaker 11: Look what not unexpected? So they've also seen shareholders. They're

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Speaker 11: also seen a big share price spike back in June.

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Speaker 11: That was thanks to an unsolicited takeover bit Now the

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Speaker 11: said it's undervalued and opportunistic. Now the bid is at

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Speaker 11: as I say the bid was unsolicited, so they weren't

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Speaker 11: and actually from management as well. They've said they remain

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Speaker 3: Share price is just over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and now we're back looking at the ten yields,

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Speaker 11: We've said very weak labor market numbers out on the

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Speaker 11: They have recovered overnight, not not completely, but they have recovered.

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Speaker 11: And I want to mention interest rates because it's pushed

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Speaker 3: And I always need to remind people that.

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Speaker 11: There's a good degree of correlation between the US longer

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Speaker 3: They move, we move. So the US tenure sitting about

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Speaker 11: It has been all over the place this year. Back

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Speaker 3: Four point six.

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Speaker 11: But as I say, moves our rates around as well.

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Speaker 11: So nuged our longer rates lower lower here yesterday as well,

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Speaker 11: which is a good thing. The logic here mic is

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Speaker 11: that the US economy is potentially slowing, and so you'll

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Speaker 11: see further falls in the Fed funds rate, but possibly

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Speaker 11: lower growth levels as well.

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Speaker 3: That's one of those things that we just have to

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Speaker 3: see how it plays out.

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Speaker 2: But then to talk to me and see they argue

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Speaker 2: that when it comes to the oil, right, so if

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Speaker 2: you put more oil into the market, are you then

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Speaker 2: banking on the fact that the more will offset the

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Speaker 2: drop in price.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So there's a few things going on.

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Speaker 11: So the other one, that's the other thing that moved

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Speaker 11: on Friday was the oil price. So and we do

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Speaker 11: need to give this a mention because it's sixty eight dollars.

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Speaker 11: I was down below sixty nine bucks. So towards the

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Speaker 11: end of last week, Mike, it crude spiked over seventy

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Speaker 2: You what I'm still recovering from the bombing the other day.

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Speaker 2: I don't know whether this is monthly noise or not,

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Speaker 2: So the EU, Germany, Germany has been consistent. We'll go

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Speaker 2: to Catherine Field shortly. Germany has been consistent. They were

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Speaker 2: Turnbury in Scotland with Vandalayan last week. The Italians were

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Speaker 2: And that's good. You remember when I was talking to

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Speaker 2: we sit here, I don't know whether we can cut

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Speaker 2: in July hotter than a hot thing, apparently, sales up

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Speaker 2: sold nine hundred and fifty seven properties. Is that a lot? Yes,

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Speaker 2: it's the most in four years. Peter Thompson's managing director,

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Speaker 2: of course, and as well us Peter morning, yeah, good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Is this an outlier or is August going to track

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I think if we take the last three to

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Speaker 2: Can we cut through it all and have some reasons?

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Speaker 16: No, we're actually starting to see quite a lot of

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Speaker 2: Okay, So if we're doing and feeling that right here

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Speaker 16: traditionally September October, as you say, are our better months.

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Speaker 16: When the weather comes out, we certainly start seeing the

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Speaker 16: It certainly does. But I think it's not just for property.

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Speaker 13: I know.

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Speaker 16: It won't affect It's huge, and I've heard these discussions

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Speaker 16: first home buy The five million really will only most

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Speaker 16: We need to be able to spread it through the

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Speaker 16: message we've actually got to get out to them.

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Speaker 2: Well said Appreciate Times of Wat's Peter Thompson, who's the

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Speaker 2: managing director of course of Barfoot and Thompson are eighteen

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Speaker 2: minutes away from seven time pas skiing contrast. Have a

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Speaker 2: look at the Herald this morning. Big Projects abandoned the

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Speaker 2: third delayed unbuilt dire State of Auckland CBD. So this

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Speaker 2: is and Gibson's property Insider. There's a growing concern apparently

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Speaker 2: if you've been downtown Auckland, I mean you can see

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Speaker 2: it about a lack of activity, deferral's delays, abandonment. SIT's

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Speaker 2: unsold for a year, sometimes decades. Every day we're getting

447
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Speaker 2: closer to suber than Sydney. It's a guy called James Keller,

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Speaker 2: Who's worth New Zealand mortgages and securities, No parking, crime, homelessness,

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Speaker 2: almost impossible to get a consent to do anything. So

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Speaker 2: I'll read that in WEEP eighteen too.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: It by News Talks, It be Mortie. Mike, how refreshing

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Speaker 2: to hear someone being positive? I agree, but he had

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Speaker 2: the numbers to back it up. It's all very well,

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Speaker 2: just to be positive, positive, You don't want to be

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Speaker 2: polyannerish about it, but you have the numbers to back

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Speaker 2: it up. Mike's pretty obvious. People have realized interest rates

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Speaker 2: aren't going any lower, even though we all know they should.

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Speaker 2: I think they're going to. They're going to have to.

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Speaker 2: I think there's two cuts coming before the end of

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Speaker 2: the year. And as I've said a million times, I

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Speaker 2: reckon neutrals probably about two and a half of the

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Speaker 2: R six forty.

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Speaker 1: Five international correspondence with ends and eye insurance. Peace of

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Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: What Catherine Field to cut through the mess from the

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Speaker 2: shambles and tell us what on earth's going on with

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Speaker 2: this trade? Business? Morning to you, Catherine, given So there

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Speaker 2: you're at Turnbrie, and Ursula's there and Donald's there, and

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Speaker 2: they've got a deal, and now we don't what an

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Speaker 2: earth is going on.

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Speaker 14: I think everyone has suddenly focused on the seventh of August,

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Speaker 14: this Thursday, when the tariffs are due to come into

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Speaker 14: a fact. Of course, the one country that's completely shocked

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Speaker 14: at the moment, Mike is Switzerland. Of course, they've really

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Speaker 14: been had hard. Thirty nine percent US export tariff has

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Speaker 14: come down on them. There's one of the steepest globally.

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Speaker 14: And of course the Swiss had been negotiating for over

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Speaker 14: the last three months.

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Speaker 17: They thought they'd.

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Speaker 13: Done a deal.

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Speaker 14: They thought they were ready for maybe ten percent, possibly

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Speaker 14: fifteen percent, but then this came down. Not quite sure why.

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Speaker 14: Some are saying it's because they're particularly bad tempered. Telephone

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Speaker 14: call between US President and the Swiss president last Thursday,

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Speaker 14: Perhaps that happened.

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Speaker 2: No one's quite sure.

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Speaker 14: There was an emergency cabinet meeting a couple of hours ago.

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Speaker 14: The statement came out from that saying that Switzerland is

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Speaker 14: about to make a more attractive offer to the US,

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Speaker 14: taking US concerns into account. No clues what that offer

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Speaker 14: would be. Mike possibly offered to buy more LNG liquidified

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Speaker 14: natural gas, but just really absolute panic in Switzerland of course,

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Speaker 14: again and another export oriented economy. Sixteen percent of their

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Speaker 14: goods go to the US. We're talking about big luxury items,

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Speaker 14: you know, watchers, chocolate, pharmaceutical machinery. It could have a

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Speaker 14: really harsh knock on effect to the Swiss economy.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it could. So we wish them all the very

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Speaker 2: best with that. As far as you guys are considered,

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Speaker 2: have you got I mean, the Germans have been consistent,

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Speaker 2: haven't they. They didn't really like what happened to Turnbury

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Speaker 2: the other day? And so it is Europe aligned with

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Speaker 2: what you want to do with America or not?

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Speaker 14: Really not really, It really does depend who you speak to.

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Speaker 14: I mean, yes, France and Germany are essentially saying what

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Speaker 14: went wrong? You know, We've got the German finance minister

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Speaker 14: heading to the US at the moment. He's going to

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Speaker 14: have talks there with the Treasury Sectory, but he's pretty

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Speaker 14: much going on alone there, Mike. He's going there to

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Speaker 14: talk about special exemptions for the German steel sector. He's

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Speaker 14: clearly not going there to talk for Europe because they

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Speaker 14: just feel that they've got to worry about their electorate

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Speaker 14: now and jobs in their market interest enough, Still no

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Speaker 14: word from French prison tom Manuel Macaron. He's keeping very quiet.

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Speaker 14: But of course it's summer here, so you wouldn't expect

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Speaker 14: them to say much. But then again, my youth, we're

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Speaker 14: heading towards this Thursday and it could be a bit

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Speaker 14: of an upset again if someone doesn't manage to pull

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Speaker 14: something off. Certainly no one's expecting a sort of underline

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Speaker 14: to come back and say, well, I got it all wrong.

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Speaker 14: We've managed to renegotiate something that's just not going to happen.

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Speaker 2: Hey, how's Pauline on her bicycle?

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Speaker 14: Eh? Oh, didn't we just need the SATIRRASA Pauline for

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Speaker 14: Hans Prevos.

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Speaker 2: She's won the women's.

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Speaker 14: Tour of Hans Yes, okay, it's not as big as

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Speaker 14: the man. That's only nine days, nine stages the men

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Speaker 14: do twenty one stages. But absolutely wonderful. She came home.

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Speaker 14: She was wearing the yellow jersey on the final stage.

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Speaker 14: She did it for France. Of course, it comes on

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Speaker 14: top of her first her Olympic goal last year in

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Speaker 14: Paris she went it on the VTT, So yeah, everyone

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Speaker 14: absolutely excited by that, except for the money side of it.

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Speaker 14: She gets about ninety eight thousand New Zealand dollars, whereas

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Speaker 14: the one who won the men's competition got just over

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Speaker 14: one point one million New Zealand ors.

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Speaker 2: How's your whether I'm reading another one of those alarmist

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Speaker 2: articles here on the local media saying our whole summer

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Speaker 2: holiday thing in Europe now is on the edge because

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Speaker 2: we can't stand the heat. Is it one hundred and

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Speaker 2: twelve degrees as you speak?

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Speaker 13: No, not yet.

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Speaker 14: In fact, we've had a pretty cool July. But they're

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Speaker 14: saying there's going to be another heat wave coming up

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Speaker 14: by the end of this week. Certainly up at you.

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Speaker 14: You do notice the trends and tourism. People are not

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Speaker 14: going to the south as much as used to. People

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Speaker 14: rethinking where they're going to go to Spain. If you

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Speaker 14: can bear the cold water and the channel, go to

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Speaker 14: the Normandy coast is what people are saying that. I

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Speaker 14: think I'm just stay home.

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Speaker 2: But what about Finland. You went to Finland? Where do

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Speaker 2: you go to Finland?

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Speaker 13: Then? Was glorious?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly all right.

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Speaker 14: You can go swimming and beautiful crystal plair, blue waters,

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Speaker 14: go to the legs Warves wonderful.

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Speaker 2: What more do you want? Catherine Field always pleasure. She's

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Speaker 2: back with us next Tuesday here on the Mike Hosking

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Speaker 2: Breakfast ten to seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News Talks.

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Speaker 2: They'd be very good piece of reading for you that

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Speaker 2: I'll get back to you later on about And this

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Speaker 2: is US following Australia. So their social media ban that

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Speaker 2: they seem absolutely obsessed with and somehow believe that it's

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Speaker 2: going to work, or do they? There is good reason

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Speaker 2: why the social media ban in Australia won't work, and

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Speaker 2: the government knows it. So in other words, it's just

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Speaker 2: it's smoking mirrors, basically the thing yesterday. I think I

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Speaker 2: alluded to it briefly yesterday. I can't remember, but I

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Speaker 2: certainly alluded it to it at the time. So Jennison, Genesis,

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Speaker 2: Meridian and Mercury in Contact have got together and this

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Speaker 2: is the ultimate ironies of ironies, and I noted this.

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Speaker 2: I thought about this over the weekend when I heard

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Speaker 2: the announcement from Megan Woods that she wasn't going to

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Speaker 2: be standing for her electric in christ ut Or. She

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Speaker 2: was just happy to be a list MP, and I

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Speaker 2: thought that that says something about a person to be blunt.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you are seen to be the prime

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Speaker 2: minister or the finance minister. I get that. I would

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Speaker 2: I think anyone would struggle to be an electric MP

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Speaker 2: plus a very very senior politician. But when you're in

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Speaker 2: opposition doing not a lot and you decide the electorate's

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Speaker 2: all a bit difficult and you just might sit there

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Speaker 2: on the list for a while. That's got work from

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Speaker 2: Home vibes about it to me. Anyway, Why did I

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Speaker 2: mention her well, because she was, of course the person

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Speaker 2: who cut the power and the oil off in the

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Speaker 2: first place. So to the announcement yesterday to the market Genesis, Meridian,

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Speaker 2: Mercury and Contact, they've announced that they club together and

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Speaker 2: they're just going to buy shed loads of coal for

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Speaker 2: lord knows how many years to get us through this

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Speaker 2: miraculous transition that's just any day now going to save

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Speaker 2: the world and us in winter five minutes away from seven,

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Speaker 2: the ins and the outs.

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Speaker 1: It's the beiz with business favor, take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: From Tesla this morning, it's not quite as big as

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Speaker 2: he was hoping for because he's still in court. I refer,

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Speaker 2: of course to Elon. But he's come up big on

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Speaker 2: the payday with the board awarding him an interim package

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Speaker 2: of ninety six million shares. Is that a lot? Quite

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Speaker 2: a lot, because worth about forty nine billion New Zealand

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Speaker 2: dollars stipulation, who's going to hang around? So these are

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Speaker 2: golden handcuffs. Basically, he's got to continue for the next

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Speaker 2: couple of years as the CEO or in some key

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Speaker 2: executive position. It's also interim given he is still in

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Speaker 2: court scrapping away. That court case, by the way, started

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Speaker 2: seven years ago, and back then what had happened if

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Speaker 2: you haven't followed the story, is the shareholders approved this

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Speaker 2: paypacket that was worth ninety five billion, but it was

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Speaker 2: blocked with the courts because it was alleged Musk had

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Speaker 2: sham negotiations with directors who were not independent. If he

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Speaker 2: eventually wins that battle, the interim package is null and void,

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Speaker 2: so he doesn't get today's lot, plus you know the rest.

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Speaker 2: He only gets the original Anyways, Currently, the largest shareholder

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Speaker 2: holds about thirteen percent with the paypacket, and an announcement

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Speaker 2: to day would take him to about fifteen percent, but

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Speaker 2: he wants even more. He's a bit worried about being

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Speaker 2: asked to buy active as shareholders. That's his maintenance ern zone,

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Speaker 2: I mean upshots. He can afford the power bell. He's

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Speaker 2: not worried about Genesis stockpiling Coali's. You know, he's okay,

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Speaker 2: can probably full his own woinodmill and battery if he

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Speaker 2: wants it. What are we talking about after seven o'clock

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Speaker 2: this morning. But we're going to go into the trades.

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Speaker 2: And I mean, if you've listened to this program on

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Speaker 2: a regular basis over a long period of time, you

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Speaker 2: will know my view on the trades and just how

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Speaker 2: hopeless it has been in the education system as we've

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Speaker 2: obsessed about going to university at all costs. And being

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Speaker 2: a trade is actually a good thing, and you can

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Speaker 2: be a very good trading and then before you know it,

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Speaker 2: you can own your own company and call yourself Jonesy.

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Speaker 2: And the next thing you do, you around at my

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Speaker 2: place charging me tens of thousands of dollars to dig

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Speaker 2: holes in the ground and put drains it. And he

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Speaker 2: looked all right to me. I thought, now, did Jonesy,

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Speaker 2: did Jonesy get a b com No he didn't. Jonesy

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Speaker 2: dug some holes at my place and charge me tens

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Speaker 2: of thousands of dollars for some drainage, and that's being

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Speaker 2: a trading and so at last we're starting to recognize this.

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Speaker 2: So we'll do more on this after the news, which

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Speaker 2: is next your reduced talks.

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Speaker 6: There'd be.

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Speaker 1: The only report you need to start your day. The

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Speaker 1: my casting break best with Bailey's real estate altogether better

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Speaker 1: across residential, commercial, and rural. News dogs head be.

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Speaker 2: Seven past seven, So perhaps one of the more exciting

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Speaker 2: parts of the new STOK school curriculum reform, very direct

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Speaker 2: link to the trades and vacational training subjects will be

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Speaker 2: co designed with industry to boost career viability. James mcdowald

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Speaker 2: is the head of Advocacy at the MTA and is

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Speaker 2: with us. James, morning, morning, Mike. How are you good?

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Speaker 2: Are you excited?

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Speaker 3: I am.

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Speaker 5: It's a very very welcome change. It was a pleasure

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Speaker 5: to attend the funeral yesterday of NCA and I very

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Speaker 5: much look forward to the future and particularly what we're

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Speaker 5: going to be doing with vocational pathways.

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Speaker 2: What's your interface currently with the schooling system.

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Speaker 5: Well, this gateway program which tries to go in there

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Speaker 5: and get kids and get them to on job environments,

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Speaker 5: you know, tertiary thundered and not paid for. That's there's

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Speaker 5: a little bit of interface, but ultimately the the big

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Speaker 5: problem with NCAA is it's just an absolute dog's breakfast.

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Speaker 5: And when you've got more than forty percent of kids

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Speaker 5: who pick just a few credits here and there in

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Speaker 5: vocational pathways, that's that's not a pathway into the serious

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Speaker 5: pathway into the trades. That's then just you know, and

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Speaker 5: that's how the system works and incentivisers gaming the system

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Speaker 5: and picking up little credits here and there. So doing

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Speaker 5: away with all that what we would very much like

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Speaker 5: to see now, and it's part of the consultation process

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Speaker 5: is saying, look, okay, we're going to do this big

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Speaker 5: core subjects. Let's have say, in our case, an automotive subject,

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Speaker 5: and we all work with the polytechs and providers like

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Speaker 5: MITO that do the on job training and start the

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Speaker 5: moving exactly the best.

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Speaker 2: So I want to be an engineer in F one,

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Speaker 2: is that how it's going to work for me. I'll

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Speaker 2: do my maths, I'll do my English, and I'll do

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Speaker 2: something that channels me towards that.

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Speaker 5: Yes, it's a lot like the old days, a lot

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Speaker 5: of the old system, or perhaps more contemporarily like more

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Speaker 5: like Cambridge. At the moment where you have your core subjects,

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Speaker 5: there'll be much less choice, for sure. I think that's

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Speaker 5: the problem with NCA. There's just far too much flexibility.

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Speaker 5: You've got something like over eleven thousand unit standards you

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Speaker 5: can choose from that make up these qualifications. That's just

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Speaker 5: a complete mess. You know, you might get a few

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Speaker 5: credits for learning how to put oil in a car.

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Speaker 5: That does not make you an automotive engineer, unfortunately.

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Speaker 2: No, it doesn't. Do you think we will be able

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Speaker 2: to it? Because I've been banging on about this literally

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Speaker 2: for years. Do you think we will be able to

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Speaker 2: break the psychological whatever it is that we have with university.

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Speaker 2: Not that university is bad or any of that if

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Speaker 2: your on a pathway, but this fixation with getting a

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Speaker 2: be calm or whatever it is as opposed to the

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Speaker 2: trades which are second place.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's been one of the strong messages from the

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Speaker 5: government and then talking to ministers in the last few days,

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Speaker 5: and they would really like to see the trades elevated

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Speaker 5: and not seen as you know, a fallback option for

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Speaker 5: those that don't do very well at school. You know,

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Speaker 5: let's be honest, these are highly skilled roles, and these

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Speaker 5: are future business owners and having a much more coherent

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Speaker 5: pathway into whether it's full on job training through MITO

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Speaker 5: or whether it's into a polytechnic. Having that they're in

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Speaker 5: the school and then they get halfway halfway through the

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Speaker 5: thing anyway, that will raise its profile. I think.

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Speaker 2: So that's the this part good stuff. James Wilder, James mcdell,

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Speaker 2: who's with the MTA this morning, timidus past seven PASKI.

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Speaker 2: I reckon that was the most positive government announcement that's

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Speaker 2: been made so far in this government in terms of reaction.

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Speaker 2: Our newsroom ran a few negative stories, as they normally do,

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Speaker 2: but apart from that, overall, yesterday seem to me for

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Speaker 2: something as large as it is, and believe me, it's large, overall,

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Speaker 2: most people seem to say thank the Good Lord for that. Anyway.

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Speaker 2: Erica Stamford's with us in about twenty minutes ten past seven,

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Speaker 2: so got some community angst over proposals to cut more

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Speaker 2: rural police were in Canterbury, where consultations underway and restructuring

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Speaker 2: to a more centralized model. So they're looking to fire

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Speaker 2: a twenty four seven hubs, places like Roliston and Rangula,

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Speaker 2: which of course are booming. Beckscreen is the president of

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Speaker 2: Fed Farmers North Canterbury and as with us bex morning,

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Speaker 2: good morning, how are you very well? So we're talking

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Speaker 2: colvid at least in those sort of areas, right coret okay,

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Speaker 2: So do you know what's going on? Because I heard

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Speaker 2: yesterday someone's going, oh my god, they're going to close

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Speaker 2: down Arthur's Path. Arthur's Pass hasn't had a copy it

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Speaker 2: for two years, so why wouldn't you close it down.

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Speaker 18: Look, they're looking at changing or reducing a lot of

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Speaker 18: areas in rural cranks Canterbury. So for the likes of

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Speaker 18: Colvidin we have two police officers there, they will be

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Speaker 18: disestablished and take entering Euroe.

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Speaker 2: The argument is that just because you close a police

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Speaker 2: station doesn't mean you're not going to have someone on

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Speaker 2: the beat. Do you accept that or is that a

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Speaker 2: possibility or no?

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Speaker 18: I absolutely don't accept it. Our police live in our community.

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Speaker 18: They know the people and they understand the community. If

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Speaker 18: you lose that in a in a rural community. It's

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Speaker 18: a huge.

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Speaker 2: Impact, right, So where are you at with the police

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Speaker 2: and what of the police saying to you as opposed

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Speaker 2: to what they think they can do and what they

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Speaker 2: will do.

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Speaker 18: That's a good question. We were not consulted or the

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Speaker 18: community was not consulted prior to hearing this in the media,

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Speaker 18: so we're obviously quite disappointed. Since then, we have I

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Speaker 18: have spoken to Tony Hill. He is coming to our

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Speaker 18: community meetings on Wednesday up in Colbenan and obviously we'd

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Speaker 18: like to ask him a lot of questions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't blame you can't blame them in theory.

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Speaker 2: I mean Rollinson rangure is booming and therefore more people,

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Speaker 2: more cops. So you can see why they're focusing on

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Speaker 2: those areas, can't you.

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Speaker 18: Oh but that doesn't mean that you should take away

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Speaker 18: the yal police in our royal communities.

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Speaker 2: No, So what sort of timeframe we're dealing on this?

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Speaker 2: When do we need to bring your back back and

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Speaker 2: work out what's going on here?

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Speaker 18: Look, the submissions are closed or the two week consultation

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Speaker 18: with the staff closes next Wednesday, the thirteenth of July. Okay,

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Speaker 18: in that time, the community can write submissions and we

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Speaker 18: obviously have our community meetings technique this Wednesday where we

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Speaker 18: hopefully can get some answers to the questions that we

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Speaker 18: have around how it impacts our community, and then I

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Speaker 18: guess from there we'll find.

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Speaker 2: Out all right, We'll stay in touch. Bex preciate. It

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Speaker 2: Becks Green, president of Fed Farmers in North Canterbury, thirteen

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Speaker 2: minutes past seven Scale predictions for tomorrow's unemployment number five three.

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Speaker 2: Everyone seems to be thinking five three. It's currently five

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Speaker 2: to one. The odd person goes five too. I think

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Speaker 2: the RB's going five to two. Five three is what

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Speaker 2: most people seem to think. That would mean that the

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Speaker 2: economy shit about forty thousand jobs over the last couple

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Speaker 2: of years. They've got wage growth at about two, which

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Speaker 2: is interesting because inflation that way it is at the

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Speaker 2: moment and the band is high twos and trending up,

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Speaker 2: which means you going backwards. And there is also an

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Speaker 2: argument I think it was Miles at A and Z

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Speaker 2: who was arguing that there might have been a bit

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Speaker 2: of labour hoarding going on. In other words, a lot

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Speaker 2: of businesses were holding on to some people thinking things

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Speaker 2: were coming right coming right, coming right, and if you

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Speaker 2: suddenly change your mind one Monday morning and go, you

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Speaker 2: know what, they're not as right as I thought there were.

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Speaker 2: We might be still laying a few people off. So

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Speaker 2: it'll be interesting tomorrow to get that number.

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Speaker 1: Fourteen past the High Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 2: That Be Now you may not know the name again,

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Speaker 2: or a mirror hunt if you don't a light line

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Speaker 2: before eight o'clock and she's with us after. I think

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Speaker 2: you're going to enjoy her story. Sixteen past seven, So

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Speaker 2: New Zealand on air as in the taxpayer branching out

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Speaker 2: of this funding of reality Telly. So you've got Traders

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Speaker 2: New Zealand and celebrity Treasure Island both getting well in

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Speaker 2: excessive a million dollars each after TV and C and

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Speaker 2: three apparently threatened to can them. Iron Gardens, president of

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Speaker 2: the Screen Producers Association, and is back with us Iron

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Speaker 2: Morning the Morning, Mate. How do you know when you're

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Speaker 2: sitting there looking to hand out money and TBNZ comes

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Speaker 2: to you and tell you what, if you don't give

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Speaker 2: us money, we're going to can them, whether they're bluffing

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Speaker 2: or not.

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Speaker 15: Ah Man money's so tired at the moment. The conversations

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Speaker 15: are pretty intense, so I don't think there's a lot

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Speaker 15: of bluffing going on. I think we're all kind of

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Speaker 15: working together. It's become a very united industry really, because

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Speaker 15: the common enemy now is the International streaming Agency is

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Speaker 15: kind of stealing all of our ad rev And that's

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Speaker 15: the background to this, that's the background to end it

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Speaker 15: on here going a wee bit broader, and it's remitched

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Speaker 15: from the more public goods sort of things that's done before.

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Speaker 15: There's just so little commercial money around now at the networks.

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Speaker 3: We'll tell us.

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Speaker 2: How because back in my day, Irene, if you're.

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Speaker 15: Stuck, made lots of money, made a heap.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Celebrity Treasure Island goes. I don't know, I've never

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Speaker 2: watched it, obviously, but you put it primetime TV two, right?

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Speaker 2: Are you telling me that you cannot put a television

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Speaker 2: program on Primetime TV two and not celebdvertising around that

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Speaker 2: that covers anymore?

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Speaker 15: Not anymore? No way, not anymore. No, I'm not lying.

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Speaker 15: They cut about fifty million out of spending on local

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Speaker 15: production last year across the two main channels. It's really

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Speaker 15: desperate out there's the adriv is just so low, and

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Speaker 15: it's because of big tech and it's gone completely unregulated

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Speaker 15: and it's incredibly tough, and you know, to reassure people,

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Speaker 15: I mean, this is not entered on air, you know,

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Speaker 15: doing a race to the bottom. I mean you use

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Speaker 15: the term reality and yes, technically yes they are. But

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Speaker 15: you know, the Traders is a pretty sophisticated entertainment format

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Speaker 15: that's pretty well.

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Speaker 19: Made, can I be?

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Speaker 2: Also, without insolving my verage of friend Paul Henry, Traders

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Speaker 2: didn't rate on TV three, not much rates on TV three,

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Speaker 2: where as Celebrity Treasure Island. Celebrity Treasure Island does right, yes,

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Speaker 2: and pure numbers. Celebrity would be Traders all day long,

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Speaker 2: every day of the week, wouldn't it.

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Speaker 15: And Celebrity Treasure Island is also, you know, a really

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Speaker 15: good vehicle for New Zealand talent and humor and all

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Speaker 15: of that. I would argue with you about the ratings

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Speaker 15: of Traders I think, bearing in mind what free to

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Speaker 15: Weere ratings are at the moment and what it also

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Speaker 15: did online, it actually did very well and it is

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Speaker 15: definitely a viewer fame. It's also the new Zealm versions

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Speaker 15: also thought of as one of the best in the world,

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Speaker 15: and it is selling. And see that's that's the area

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Speaker 15: where the growth is starting to happen. If you can

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Speaker 15: start to get more international sales, more international money, then

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Speaker 15: inded On his contribution can reduce.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough.

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Speaker 15: But yeah, it's a heck of a time for inded

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Speaker 15: On here. Honestly, the pressure on them for the decisions

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Speaker 15: at the moment is intense.

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Speaker 2: Should I go on Celebrity Treasure Island give them the.

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Speaker 15: Help, Well, that would be entirely up to you.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 2: It invited me on a number of years ago. But

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Speaker 2: you know they don't pay any money, and I, you know,

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Speaker 2: like one would I don't think so, Yes, you probably wins,

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Speaker 2: I reckon, I probably would. I ring nice to talk

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Speaker 2: to you, Iren Gardener, who's the president of the Screen

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Speaker 2: Production Development Association. See now I can't do it because

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Speaker 2: Don't you have to form alliances on those sorts of shows?

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Speaker 2: I do you know what, I've at least partially changed

897
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Speaker 2: my mind on charging tourists. So the idea that you

898
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Speaker 2: can wander around our conservation of state for free is

899
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Speaker 2: of course nuns. And like the various charges that we've

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Speaker 2: placed on tourists, whether it be at the border or

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Speaker 2: potentially in a hotel with a bed tax, the simple

902
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Speaker 2: truth is if we got our act together in terms

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Speaker 2: of marketing and seek capacity into the country, people would

904
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Speaker 2: actually be happy to pay. Why because everyone pays for

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Speaker 2: everything all over the world. And if post COVID travelers

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Speaker 2: taught us anything it's that you can basically rob a

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Speaker 2: tourist blind they're still happy to pay. And that's before

908
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Speaker 2: you get to the bit where our dollar is so pathetic.

909
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Speaker 2: Most people coming here can't believe what they get in exchange.

910
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Speaker 2: But as part of the conservation announcement over the weekend,

911
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Speaker 2: if you followed that, what we also got was New

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Speaker 2: Zealand's great problem, the negative reaction. As much as we

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Speaker 2: love our open spaces and cleaner in national parks, you

914
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Speaker 2: have never seen a group of people more determined not

915
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Speaker 2: to have anyone else touch them. God forbid, we should

916
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Speaker 2: open the place up to a bit more business. We've

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Speaker 2: seen it for years in the rama, of course, and

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Speaker 2: groups like Forest and Bird, who must have spent millions

919
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Speaker 2: by now hour on lawyers and the Environment Court looking

920
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Speaker 2: not to change anything. Are the quiet Skies type groups

921
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Speaker 2: of Wayhiki in various other locations around the country determine

922
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Speaker 2: never to see a chopper polluting their environs. Ever, again,

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Speaker 2: there is this default position whereby we're happy to be

924
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Speaker 2: left tolone. We don't like intelopers, intruders or eck tourists,

925
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Speaker 2: and we certainly don't want them tramping over our stuff,

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Speaker 2: far less eck landing a helicopter and then tramping over

927
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Speaker 2: our stuff. We don't like cruise ships either, so we've

928
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Speaker 2: made them ruinously expensive to park here so they don't anymore.

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Speaker 2: Yay win for the greenies. What we do like, though,

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Speaker 2: there's lots more money, lots more hospital beds, much more education,

931
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Speaker 2: lots of welfare, lots of generous dollops of free stuff,

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Speaker 2: all paid for by the money tree in Wellington. The

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Speaker 2: fact tourism, the conservation estate, ships and rich Americans and

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Speaker 2: EC one thirties pay for a lot of that doesn't

935
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Speaker 2: seem to have registered hosking. I reckon you could have

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Speaker 2: driven a truck through her response to you being on Treasure,

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Speaker 2: and yeah, I reckon you probably could. To What she

938
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Speaker 2: was actually thinking is she's a television programmer for wayback.

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Speaker 2: She was just thinking how transformational that would be me

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Speaker 2: appearing on Treasure. That was her programming mind there. So

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Speaker 2: it wasn't negative. I saw it as positive. Mike, when's

942
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Speaker 2: the last time you watched primetime television?

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Speaker 3: For you?

944
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Speaker 2: But that's a very good point. No one does any well, well,

945
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Speaker 2: that's not true. People do, which I didn't honestly realize.

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Speaker 2: And I trust her. She's one of the brightest brains

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Speaker 2: in broadcasting in this country. It stuns me to think that.

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Speaker 2: So this goes back to my experience on television back

949
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Speaker 2: in those days. You would get the biggest program in

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Speaker 2: television is the new six o'clock news on TV one,

951
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Speaker 2: followed by seven sharp, followed by probably Shortland Street, and

952
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Speaker 2: after that falls off a cliff. But you're down to

953
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Speaker 2: two hundred thousand people something like that. But I still assumed,

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Speaker 2: obviously incorrectly, that at two two hundred and fifty thousand people,

955
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Speaker 2: you can put together a program and wrap some advertising,

956
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Speaker 2: branding and marketing around it that would at least pay

957
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Speaker 2: that program's way, if not make money. Now she's telling

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Speaker 2: us that's not true. Now that's not true. We're buggett

959
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Speaker 2: because basically, apart from three programs on television and occasionally

960
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Speaker 2: used to get your Dancing with the Stars and all

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Speaker 2: that sort of stuff, apart from three programs on television,

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Speaker 2: I the New seven Sharp and Country Calendar or Shortland

963
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Speaker 2: Street television doesn't make any money anymore. And if that's

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Speaker 2: the case, we really are truly in trouble. Mike, I

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Speaker 2: never watched TV, but if you went on Treasure Island,

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Speaker 2: I would, well, there you go. You see, that's the

967
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Speaker 2: sort of ratings pull. I had news for you in

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Speaker 2: a moment than Erica Stanford.

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Speaker 1: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Vida, Retirement, Communities, Life your Way, News togstead

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Speaker 1: b three.

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Speaker 2: Minutes away from a So just a reminder of where

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Speaker 2: we're going educationally as of yesterday, So level one is going.

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Speaker 2: We will have a New Foundational Skills Award recognizing literacy

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Speaker 2: and numeracy. Then comes the New Zealand Certificate of Education

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Speaker 2: and Advanced Certificate, and as we mentioned earlier, we are

977
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Speaker 2: begun the vacational training at long last. Eric Stanford is

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Speaker 2: of course the Education Minister enterspect the same period this morning.

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Speaker 2: To you can I was saying on the show earlier

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Speaker 2: on it seems, broadly speaking, for such a large announcement

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Speaker 2: yesterday to have been pretty well received.

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Speaker 17: Look, it has been. I think parents intuitively knew that

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Speaker 17: there was something that wasn't quite right about NCA, and

984
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Speaker 17: they've had the space to be able to say over

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Speaker 17: the last couple of weeks, actually it hasn't been working

986
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Speaker 17: in these ways for our children, and now they get

987
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Speaker 17: to have their say with the new plan that's out

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Speaker 17: for consultation today.

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Speaker 2: Did you look at Cambridge Baccalaureate anything that was already

990
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Speaker 2: in play, simply replace it or not.

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Speaker 17: I had a group of about twenty great principles who

992
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Speaker 17: formed an advisory group for me, and they looked at

993
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Speaker 17: every jurisdiction across the world and looked what worked, what

994
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Speaker 17: didn't work, and pulled together the plan that you see

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Speaker 17: in front of you. There are certain things about Cambridge

996
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Speaker 17: that are great, there are certain things that aren't quite right,

997
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Speaker 17: and so we've looked at what we can do to

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Speaker 17: be world leading.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so this would be something that the rest of

1000
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Speaker 2: the world will look at in time and go we

1001
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Speaker 2: will do that too.

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Speaker 17: Well, that is a plan with all of my education reforms.

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Speaker 17: I want us to be world leading. We've already had

1004
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Speaker 17: accolades about our primary maths and English curriculum. We've had

1005
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Speaker 17: accolades about moving to structure. Let you see, the first

1006
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Speaker 17: country in the world to do so, all of the

1007
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Speaker 17: resources we're pumping in, I've got other countries now coming

1008
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Speaker 17: to us looking at our teachers and what they're doing

1009
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Speaker 17: on the ground and saying we want to replicate this,

1010
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Speaker 17: and that's a great place for us to Do.

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Speaker 2: You have any sense or did you reach out? Do

1012
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: you have any sense of the bipartisanship required here? What's

1013
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: to stop them flipping it?

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Speaker 17: It's really important. This is our national qualification. And I

1015
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Speaker 17: made the point very early on in this process that

1016
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Speaker 17: we have to be aligned on this. We cannot be

1017
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Speaker 17: flip flopping. And of course I reached out and I've

1018
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Speaker 17: been very dogmatic about that.

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Speaker 2: And are they on board, Well, you'll have to ask

1020
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Speaker 2: them about that. While I was watching them yesterday, they

1021
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Speaker 2: don't seem committed to it. Does it worry you? I mean,

1022
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Speaker 2: you've just thrown out twenty years of something that apparently

1023
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Speaker 2: we were living with perfectly happily. What's to stop them

1024
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Speaker 2: throwing out?

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Speaker 17: Well, I'm sure I don't think we were living with

1026
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Speaker 17: it perfectly happily because I don't think kids were reaching

1027
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Speaker 17: their full potential and we weren't ambitious enough. And we

1028
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Speaker 17: are ambitious.

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Speaker 2: So my only problem with what was announced yesterday is

1030
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Speaker 2: that if you've got kids, and having had five of them,

1031
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Speaker 2: there's some experience for you. But if you've got kids

1032
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Speaker 2: that are on a pathway and know what they're doing,

1033
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Speaker 2: choice is a good thing. And it may be that

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Speaker 2: English isn't what they need in year twelve or thirteen

1035
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Speaker 2: or eleven or whatever. You know, they may be going

1036
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Speaker 2: somewhere else whereas this takes that away from them.

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Speaker 17: No, not really. We are trying to get that balance right,

1038
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Speaker 17: the perfect balance of flexibility with consistency, taking away some

1039
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Speaker 17: of the complexity for more simplicity. But there will be choice.

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Speaker 17: We are saying you have to do foundational English and

1041
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 17: maths when you're in year eleven. Most schools do that already,

1042
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Speaker 17: but some don't, So we're making that compulsory after that failure,

1043
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Speaker 17: boats choose the subjects that engage you, that lead to

1044
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Speaker 17: koreer pathways that you want. But the key difference will

1045
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Speaker 17: be when you study English or maths or physics, it

1046
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Speaker 17: will be against a world leading benchmarked curriculum and you

1047
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Speaker 17: will learn the same thing as a child and invercargo

1048
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Speaker 17: compared to walk track.

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Speaker 2: So here's part of the problem. Part of the problem

1050
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Speaker 2: will be is you're going to need to limit subjects,

1051
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Speaker 2: aren't you from what we've currently got. Once you've limited subjects,

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at these subjects. I don't really want to

1053
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Speaker 2: be at school. It's a bit boring. So I used

1054
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Speaker 2: to do dance and drama or whatever it may be.

1055
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Speaker 2: Now I've got to take something serious and I may

1056
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Speaker 2: well fail. And when I fail, then what happens.

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Speaker 17: I'm not sure where everyone's getting this view that we're

1058
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Speaker 17: going to be limiting all these subjects. We are taking

1059
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Speaker 17: a look at the subject list. This is a separate

1060
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Speaker 17: stream of work, separate to the qualification. We are looking

1061
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Speaker 17: at the amount of subjects we have and saying, look,

1062
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Speaker 17: how many children did them last year? How many children

1063
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Speaker 17: just did one stand in and going do we still

1064
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Speaker 17: need to be doing that, but that happens all the time.

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Speaker 17: We still want to have choice. Children should still be

1066
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Speaker 17: doing dance and drama and the things that excite them

1067
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Speaker 17: and lead them maybe into the theater or whatever, so

1068
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Speaker 17: those things will still be available.

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Speaker 2: Of course, what about the trade side of the equation?

1070
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Speaker 2: How limited will that be depending on where you are

1071
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Speaker 2: in the country geographically, in the size of your school.

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Speaker 17: That is a challenge and I've seen publicly. I want

1073
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Speaker 17: the VET pathways to be strong and industry aligned and

1074
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Speaker 17: relevant and tertiary aligned. The challenge of courses that schools

1075
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Speaker 17: aren't always able to have an automotive electrician or engineer

1076
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Speaker 17: in their school. We have to partner with the polytechs

1077
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Speaker 17: and also the private training organizations to make this work.

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Speaker 17: And this is I'm not going to pretend this is

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Speaker 17: going to be an easy piece of work. It's going

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Speaker 17: to be tough, but we're going to do it. We're

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00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 17: going to make sure that no matter which school you're in,

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Speaker 17: you have access to these pathways, and we will work

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Speaker 17: with the industry standards boards to make sure the standards

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Speaker 17: are relevant.

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Speaker 2: The answer will come in the exam results I'm assuming,

1086
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 2: but when will we know this works? So if it

1087
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 2: starts in twenty seven, twenty eight, so twenty eight, when

1088
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 2: do we know it works?

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Speaker 17: Well, we will already know from next year because the

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Speaker 17: English and Maths curriculum are gazetted for next year for

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00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 17: our third forms, our year nines, so they will start

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00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 17: to use the new curriculum and then the other subjects

1093
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 17: will roll through as well, so we will start to

1094
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 17: already see the results of the new curriculum through the

1095
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 17: other assessment tools that we use and teach your feedback

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00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 17: and school feedback before we get there.

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Speaker 2: Okay, put your immigration had on just quickly. Golden visas.

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00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 2: Are they still continuing to bring people in with money?

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00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 11: They are?

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00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 17: It has a tape it off slightly, but it's a

1101
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 17: huge amount stronger than I thought it would be. I

1102
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 17: said two hundred in the first year. I think we

1103
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 17: were at two hundred in the first six weeks or

1104
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 17: ten weeks, so it's still very strong. Although I would

1105
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 17: say that if you know they have the ability to

1106
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 17: be able to buy a house, that will supercharge it again.

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00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 2: You know, Erica, you have the power to do that.

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00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 2: Funnily enough, because you're in government, there.

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00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 17: Are some things so slightly ahead of my.

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00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 2: Paypack at the country.

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00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 17: Well, I've had my say, and I've said publicly and

1112
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,240
Speaker 17: I've said to other people in my party and the government,

1113
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 17: if you're going to ask people to come in and

1114
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 17: invest at least five if not ten, mate, potentially we

1115
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 17: want more out of them. Of course, then saying to

1116
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 17: them but you can't buy a house is not ideal.

1117
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 17: And like I think everyone in government is pretty pragmatic

1118
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 17: about that, and there are conversations that have been had

1119
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 17: and I expect that there will most likely be some changes.

1120
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 17: But look, as I've said, ahead, it's above my pay

1121
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 17: grade and that's sort of leader to lead as it

1122
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 17: should be.

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00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 2: All right, good stuff, Nice to see Eric Stamford, Education

1124
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 2: and Immigration Minister, seventeen to.

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Speaker 1: Wait the Vike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio,

1126
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: Power by the News Talks, It'd be.

1127
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 2: So bloody Winston. Mike's still the handbreak on the Golden

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00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 2: visa applicants being able to buy a house. Can't wait

1129
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,959
Speaker 2: to have him gone from politics. You won't be He's

1130
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 2: he's good to go. He's well about the five percent

1131
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 2: these days. The interesting thing is once they announce at

1132
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 2: which they're about to is what the explanation is. They're

1133
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,399
Speaker 2: going to need to have done something that you yeah,

1134
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 2: he needs to have backed down in some way, shape

1135
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 2: or form. He needs to be able to explain something

1136
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 2: that they've manipulated. My guess is the number and National

1137
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 2: went back to them on five million. They may be

1138
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,439
Speaker 2: down at four or three, and then Winston may well

1139
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 2: have gone. And Peter Thompson was talking about it from

1140
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 2: Barforot and Thompson earlier on the program. They may go

1141
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 2: look Auckland, yes we can do three or four, Queenstown,

1142
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 2: yes we'll do three or four. But we've got to

1143
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 2: go lower in a place like Tawonga at maybe one

1144
00:52:58,239 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 2: or two. You know what I'm saying. So I think

1145
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 2: they're gonna have sort of manipulate it and explain it

1146
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 2: away that way because there is just no logic now,

1147
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 2: it's just too absurd. Anyway, back to speaking absurd and education.

1148
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 2: This social media band that we're getting up and running

1149
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 2: in December in Australia which is a joke and it

1150
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 2: won't work. And the revelation this morning for the Sydney

1151
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 2: Morning Herald and you should read it. There's a good reason.

1152
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 2: The headline, there's a good reason why the social media

1153
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 2: band won't work, and the government knows it. And this

1154
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 2: is why we're never going to go anywhere with it,

1155
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 2: because it's all window dressing. Children will always, write Meg Keinowski.

1156
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,240
Speaker 2: Children will always find a way to circumnavigate your online

1157
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 2: roadblocks because they know the terrain better than you. I mean,

1158
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 2: that's obvious, isn't it. Seventy percent that had a poll.

1159
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 2: Seventy percent of those surveyed for the paper were skeptical

1160
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 2: the plan would be effective. See, we all know, we

1161
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 2: all want some sort of control of social media. We

1162
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 2: all want our kids is safe on social media. That's

1163
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 2: a given. But you've got to take the next leap

1164
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 2: and go can we do it? And the answers no.

1165
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 2: So they conducted their own test for this particular article

1166
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 2: and just randomly, you know, with no algorithm, no background,

1167
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,919
Speaker 2: know nothing as to who you were. How long would

1168
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:07,959
Speaker 2: it take for weird stuff to pop up on your feet?

1169
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 2: So within three minutes we had a homophobic joke, a

1170
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 2: racist AI imaging of a cultural group taking over Sydney,

1171
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 2: a movie scene depicting masturbation. They were among the videos

1172
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 2: that popped up within three and a half minutes. This feels,

1173
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 2: says the writer, like an opportune time to mention that

1174
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 2: the average Australian primary schoolers said to rack up six

1175
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 2: and a half hours of screen time a day so

1176
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 2: left their own devices. Imagine what they can see on

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00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 2: this so called band. And this is the crux of it.

1178
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 2: The holes in this legislation are gaping and to me

1179
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 2: indicate that while Anthony Albanesi and as Ministers may have

1180
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,879
Speaker 2: no idea how jen Elfers really use social media, they

1181
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 2: do know one thing. Their band won't work and they

1182
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 2: don't particularly care how bad' is that? Twelve away no,

1183
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 2: make it eleven away from it.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking breakfast with al Vida Retirement Communities News

1185
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 1: togsad been away from mate.

1186
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 2: So having dispensed with the French, it's time for the

1187
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 2: Rugby Championship. The first game as against the Pumas in

1188
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 2: a week and a half. Of course, six players have

1189
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 2: been added to the wider squad as of yesterday as

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00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 2: injury cover the chiefs loose Ford Simon Parker is the

1191
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 2: only end cap pader to join the thirty six month

1192
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 2: squat anyway, Scott Roberson as coach of course, and he's

1193
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 2: back well this morning.

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Speaker 6: Okay, good morning, Mike.

1195
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,959
Speaker 2: What's your assessment of the season so far? All those

1196
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:24,280
Speaker 2: all those French wins of yours.

1197
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 6: Look, yeah, they're gritty, there were battle hard in the

1198
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 6: French and they's nothing to lose. It's probably when they're

1199
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,479
Speaker 6: at their best. We'll really please these areas were always

1200
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 6: get to improve and which couldn't en it. First tests,

1201
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 6: you know, a couple of scores out from them, you know,

1202
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 6: three dislowed tries and four in the last so just

1203
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 6: they just keep them minute and but we're really really

1204
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 6: pleased with a lot of the young players that have

1205
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 6: come through got of the past form that come out

1206
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 6: of super But on balance we've done for good things

1207
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 6: in some areas to improve on good stuff.

1208
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on jumping on a plane and

1209
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 2: going all the way to Argentina first away? You know,

1210
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 2: do you talk to people about that? Is that a

1211
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 2: thing or not?

1212
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 6: Really? Yeah, Look, we're chipping have to. We're at the

1213
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,439
Speaker 6: bottom of the of the world, you know, and we've

1214
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 6: been what sixty percent of our tessa are away even

1215
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 6: more and he used to be used to it and

1216
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 6: Enjoy it, this one gift of footy, especially being at

1217
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 6: the allbacks you're going to be on the road. Enjoy it.

1218
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 6: Make some good times of it. You know, you sit

1219
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 6: up in front of the plane, so it's not all

1220
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 6: too that, but you know, we go these hostile places

1221
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 6: and that's that's a great part of it.

1222
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 2: No, not now, listen, I'm having trouble at work this week, Scott.

1223
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 2: Let me tell you my problem. I have you two

1224
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 2: for two in Argentina, right. I don't see Argentina being

1225
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 2: particularly a major impediment for you, But I have people

1226
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 2: in the sports department that are questioning that. Am I right?

1227
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 2: Or are they right?

1228
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 6: Oh? I think what they're saying is Argentina a good

1229
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 6: team and they are well coached. A lot of their

1230
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 6: players play in the top fourteen. They've got high cohesions,

1231
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 6: so they're a lot together. They are real threat. But

1232
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 6: thanks for the support.

1233
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 2: No worries at all. Are they on a tragedy? See?

1234
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 2: I still see them as a bit roping. They can

1235
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 2: be brilliant, but not all the time. Do you think

1236
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 2: they're on a general trajectory towards betterness?

1237
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 6: Yeah? Look, if you look at it, the bit the

1238
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 6: Lions and then they came back. Not all the players

1239
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 6: are available for their England series but and it was

1240
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 6: good English side and they play some great footy overall

1241
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,959
Speaker 6: the balance, they've got a couple of young, well young

1242
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 6: guys coming through and like I said, season that experienced

1243
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 6: players and obviously Pablo is one of them. You get

1244
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 6: them on a night, they're leadin emotions right on. They

1245
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 6: are very, very tough to beat, so we have to

1246
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 6: be at their best.

1247
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 2: Okay, speaking of the Lions, what do you make of

1248
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 2: that test? Was Australia really coming to life or the

1249
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 2: Lions already on the plane halfway home having won the series.

1250
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 6: I think it was a test match of two of

1251
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 6: most and there's a lot of hurt with the Assies

1252
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 6: and they showed it. They want to show how much

1253
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 6: they care for their Jozy and you know, the ray

1254
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 6: and the drama, everything that came with it was a

1255
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 6: pretty special occasion. And that's Tess Putty. That's tough. Anyone

1256
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 6: can win. It's it's hyped up all week. There's lots

1257
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 6: of personal stuff comes with it, and you know everyone's

1258
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 6: eyes are on it. It's beautiful.

1259
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1260
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 2: The other thing I was arguing with Jason Pine and

1261
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 2: sav you can help me out with us as well

1262
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 2: with your injury issues. Like you can't do anything about injuries,

1263
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 2: can you. You've got to look forward, you got to go.

1264
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't fix them. If you fix them,

1265
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 2: you would, but you know, you got to deal with

1266
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 2: what you got to deal with.

1267
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 6: That's part of the game. There is there a contact sport.

1268
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 6: It's brutal. You never know you're going to get some

1269
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 6: runs as a player that you can get big two

1270
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 6: or three years and then you get two or three injuries.

1271
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 6: And the big three for us is when you get

1272
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 6: a double break in one position like half back. It's great,

1273
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 6: they were going to be fiddly Christian, but those are

1274
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 6: the ones where you trying, like I've got that project

1275
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 6: four deep, which I've talked you about before, and when

1276
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 6: a couple of those go and you can bring an

1277
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 6: experienced back, it's great, but it gives up to somebody else.

1278
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 6: But yeah, you want your dispass all the time that

1279
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 6: sometimes it doesn't.

1280
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 2: Happen quite right. Go well, mate, Scott Robinson, who's the

1281
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 2: all way coach? Now, speaking of sport, I mentioned the

1282
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 2: name Marianna Ramira Hunt before you may or may not

1283
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 2: know the name of You're a motorsport you will Ben

1284
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 2: and Kartz and the eighty six and all that sort

1285
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 2: of stuff. She's lobbed into England. She's got a test

1286
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 2: and I think it's Silverstone this week on a sim

1287
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 2: her big dream. She's been with Aston Martin and the

1288
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 2: GT fours and places like America and done really well

1289
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 2: in one there. She's now looking to head to the

1290
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 2: F one Academy, which is Susie Wolf's thing, as in

1291
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 2: Toto Wolf's wife the F one Academy. So she's aiming

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Speaker 2: right for the top. So there's another name to stand

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Speaker 2: by for in the realms of New Zealand motorsport. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: we'll introduce you to her right after the news, which

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Speaker 2: is next your reviews dog z I.

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Speaker 1: Am Good, Mike has Game Been, Safegul, Engaging and vital

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Speaker 1: the my Casking Breakfast with Range Rover leading by example.

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Speaker 1: News Dogs Dead Bai.

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Speaker 2: Siven passed eight. Here's quite possibly the next name to

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Speaker 2: watching Motoray singer Rihanna A mirror Hunt grew up Karty

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Speaker 2: in a long time, wante to William Wilson, Matt Payne.

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Speaker 2: She's been competing for est Martin and GT four getting

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Speaker 2: invited to their elite motorsport academy. A Mida moved to

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Speaker 2: the UK full time, where she's now working on getting

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Speaker 2: into the ass saying before the news the F one Academy. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: Arianna a mirror Hunt is with us from Britain. Very

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Speaker 2: good morning to you. Hi, thank you, no worries it all.

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Speaker 2: Tell me about Britain so far, the move, how it

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Speaker 2: came about, and how you're settling in.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean it's been a big move. I thought

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Speaker 13: moving to an English speaking country would be a little

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Speaker 13: bit more similar than it is. But I'm adapting well.

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Speaker 13: I moved over here because as I got selected to

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Speaker 13: be part of the Asta Martin Driver Academy last year,

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Speaker 13: so moved over here kind of getting my pathway into

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Speaker 13: the UK europe scene in racing.

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Speaker 2: Tell me about Eston Martin, what they did for you

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Speaker 2: and how successful you were. I know how successful you

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Speaker 2: were in one race, but just talk us through it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: So I ended up winning a shootout in America with

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Speaker 13: the heart of racing against nine other females. We got

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Speaker 13: a year of racing in GT four SRA America and

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Speaker 13: we had a tough year of racing, but we ended

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Speaker 13: up really really strong with a few top three qualifyings,

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Speaker 13: and we ended up with creating history in Indianapolis, being

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Speaker 13: the first ever female duo to win the GT for Advantage,

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Speaker 13: So ending on a big high, being able to kiss

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Speaker 13: the bricks. It was an amazing feeling, and we want

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Speaker 13: to get back there.

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Speaker 2: I happened when you say vantage, I don't want to

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Speaker 2: show off or anything. I happen to have advantage. What's

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Speaker 2: the difference between what's the difference between my vantage that

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Speaker 2: I'm driving and your GT four vantage?

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Speaker 13: Well, our Duty four race Vantage will be set up

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Speaker 13: for race tracks. Yours is more of a road vehicle,

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Speaker 13: so we've got a good old harnessing and just some

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Speaker 13: more race dynamics with race brakes and suspension. But Duty

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Speaker 13: four is based on road cars, so they would be

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Speaker 13: pretty similar apart from their you know FIA standards.

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Speaker 2: You are typical. I think of most race drivers. You

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Speaker 2: start in cuts, you move your way on up. Eventually

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Speaker 2: you want to be in the F one Academy and

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Speaker 2: that may well come your way very shortly. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: about that in a second. What's the gap between jumping

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Speaker 2: out of a cart and then to say a Toyota

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Speaker 2: eighty six.

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Speaker 13: It was a massive learning curve for me. I did

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Speaker 13: it quite late, so I did it when I was

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Speaker 13: about twenty one. Usually you make that jump at about

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Speaker 13: sixteen seventeen. But I had the help of a lot

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Speaker 13: of people in New Zealand to get me from driving

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Speaker 13: a go kart well to driving a car. Well. Tim White,

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Speaker 13: my engineer, helped me a lot and I did my

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Speaker 13: year with the high of racing, but also with my

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Speaker 13: sponsor's Golden Home, Southern Lakes Edifice Property Group and dall

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Speaker 13: It and they all kind of supported me, getting me

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Speaker 13: some driver training to make that switch. And it was

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Speaker 13: all about adapting to car weights. It's very different to

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Speaker 13: a go carts, very small, very lights, and the car

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Speaker 13: was very heavy, so getting used to that was probably

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Speaker 13: the biggest challenge.

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Speaker 2: The I love the way you just rolled off your

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Speaker 2: sponsors there, because that is one of the quintessential things

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Speaker 2: about motor racing, isn't it. To be successful you not

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Speaker 2: only have to be fast, you've got to.

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Speaker 13: Have backing on It is a massive part, especially for

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Speaker 13: you know us kiwis coming over into the UK and Europe.

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Speaker 13: You know, we get met with some big people with

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Speaker 13: some big budgets and having the backing, especially from home,

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Speaker 13: is really special. I want to be able to create

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Speaker 13: history for New Zealand as well as myself, and I've

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Speaker 13: managed to do that a couple three times now in

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Speaker 13: casting and then once in car racing. And you know,

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Speaker 13: I've had Tony Quinn helped me in the UK to

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Speaker 13: race last year. It was the only way I got

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Speaker 13: on track with him and Golden Home Southern Lakes. So

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Speaker 13: I mean, I can't thank them enough, and I hope

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Speaker 13: that I'm doing them proud and we can kind of

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Speaker 13: carry on that relationship into Ethron Academy.

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Speaker 2: Were you always fast? Were you instantly automatically and naturally fast?

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Speaker 13: The first day I got into the go kart, we

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01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 13: were a bit shocked. I actually had the thought was

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Speaker 13: stuck on and we couldn't flow the gokut down. So

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Speaker 13: everyone was like, She's so quick, She's handled this so well.

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01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 13: Little did they know that the thought was stuck on.

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Speaker 13: But I did have a natural kind of talent from

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Speaker 13: the start. I did get driver training from Arie Hutton

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Speaker 13: and Ryan Urban for about probably eight years between the two,

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Speaker 13: so I did put the time and effort in to

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Speaker 13: be able to adapt my skill, and we spent a

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Speaker 13: lot of those years working closely with a trainer to

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Speaker 13: be able to kind of be on that top edge

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Speaker 13: of everybody else.

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Speaker 2: All right, Rihanna, hold on for a couple of moments,

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01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 2: more questions for you. Shortly, Rihanna, A mirror Hunt. It

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Speaker 2: is twelve past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeart Radio,

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Speaker 1: cow it By News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It be Use Talks, It be caught a past eight, Rhenanna,

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Speaker 2: A mirror Hunt is with the Saving for the F

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01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 2: one Academy. Listen, let me ask you, Rihanna, the gender question,

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01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 2: because I can't quite work it out whether I mean,

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01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 2: I mean it seems to me in driving a car,

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01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 2: I can't see the difference. I mean maybe endurance racing,

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01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 2: the difference maybe over you know, many many many laps

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01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 2: in ours. Physical difference might be. It might be a thing,

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01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 2: but the rest is mainly mental and skill, isn't it.

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Speaker 13: I think once you put on a helmet, you're all equal,

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Speaker 13: and that's what I love about racing. And the only

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Speaker 13: difference I would say with single seaters is an F

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01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 13: two and F three they don't have power steering, so

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Speaker 13: you do have to be quite a bit stronger than

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01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 13: you would be a F four. That's really mainly the

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Speaker 13: only different So, I mean, we just have to work

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01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 13: a little bit harder to put on that muscle. But

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Speaker 13: that's a part of the game, isn't it. You want

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01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 13: to be on that top one percent, whether you're the

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01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 13: top one percent and females or males. So for me,

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Speaker 13: it's more about maximizing that no matter the gender.

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Speaker 2: Were you have you done your at Silverstone yet?

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Speaker 13: No, that's tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: How is that like beyond exciting or not? Really it is.

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Speaker 13: I honestly, I cannot wait. I've been in the sim

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Speaker 13: all day to day testing and I can't wait. I

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01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 13: haven't been behind the wheel of a car since November

1427
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 13: last year. So just being back in a full motion

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Speaker 13: sim again has brought a massive smile to my face

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Speaker 13: and it's kind of, you know, made it more of

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Speaker 13: a reality.

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Speaker 18: Now.

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Speaker 13: It's been a lot of behind the scenes work this

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01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 13: year with networking and now to be back focused on

1434
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 13: actually racing as a dream come true.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing I think most people don't understand about

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Speaker 2: motor racing. Motor racing is actually not a lot of

1437
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 2: motor racing isn't. It's a lot of other stuff and

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Speaker 2: just a little bit behind the wheel that must be

1439
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 2: at times frustrating.

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Speaker 13: Exactly. Yeah for me. I mean, as I said, I

1441
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 13: haven't been in a cart since November and it's been

1442
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 13: about networking. It's been about getting my name out in

1443
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 13: the UK and Europe. It's social media. It's so important

1444
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 13: these days, even in racing. You know, you need to

1445
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 13: have followers for brands to want to work with you

1446
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 13: or companies to be able to take note. So for me,

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Speaker 13: that's what this year has been about, and it's been

1448
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Speaker 13: adapting to that new lifestyle. But I just cannot wait

1449
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 13: to get back in the car.

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01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 2: The full motion sim You mentioned the difference between that

1451
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 2: and something some people would have say in their garage.

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01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 2: How different is it?

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Speaker 13: It's crazy, it's you know, I was in a completely

1454
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 13: separate room with glass and people on laptops looking at

1455
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 13: my data and my video as I'm doing it live

1456
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 13: to a reference lap time, so they can completely see

1457
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 13: exactly what I'm doing. There's no line, there's no mistakes.

1458
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 13: If you make one, they see it, and you're literally

1459
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 13: up in the air kind of the cars going with

1460
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 13: you as you're turning, So it just makes it feel

1461
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 13: more realistic and what the actual thing is going to

1462
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 13: feel like for me on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: So here's the interesting thing. So you go from cards

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Speaker 2: to eighty six, is there as a jump You've never

1465
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 2: done single seaters before? What do you reckon? The difference

1466
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:19,440
Speaker 2: between saying S and GT four and single seaters.

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01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 13: Is between an A S and GTY four and single seaters.

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Speaker 13: I think the difference of stiffness. The F four car

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01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 13: is a lot stiffer than a GT four as in

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Speaker 13: all the weight and a DUTY four asin is up high.

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Speaker 13: We're pretty level to the axual in a single seater.

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Speaker 13: So it's going to be about manipulating the car in

1473
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 13: a different way to get the weight to go forward

1474
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 13: and back. And that's what I've learned on this motion

1475
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 13: sim is kind of manipulating that in a short space

1476
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 13: of time. Also, the F four is a bit slower

1477
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 13: than the GT four, so it's about being able to

1478
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 13: get on power as quickly as I can out of

1479
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 13: the corner to maximize those long straights, especially around Silverstone GP.

1480
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 2: What do you reckon as you sit here talking to

1481
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 2: us this morning, what do you reckon? How far short

1482
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 2: are you of getting into the F one Academy in

1483
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:11,679
Speaker 2: terms of speed and skill, I back myself.

1484
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 13: I think I can be there within a couple days.

1485
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 13: On track. I am really looking forward to being able

1486
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 13: to kind of prove my adaptability. Something that I've had

1487
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 13: to do my whole racing career because I haven't had

1488
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 13: much budget, is to go to a track I've never

1489
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,919
Speaker 13: been to before. On the race we can and adapts

1490
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 13: to it as fast as possible. So I'm just going

1491
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 13: to be taking those learnings and doing the exact same

1492
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,640
Speaker 13: thing with the car. You know, I love data, I

1493
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 13: love videos, so that's sort of a big strong point for me.

1494
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 13: I can spend hours looking at it, so that's where

1495
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:45,679
Speaker 13: I kind of pull that game.

1496
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 2: Up with it fantastic. You got to if you haven't

1497
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 2: already seen it. There's a thing with Chris Harrison Max

1498
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 2: for Step and a video out at the moment he

1499
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 2: can go to a track, He's up to speed race

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Speaker 2: speed within four laps.

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Speaker 13: It's insane, honestly.

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01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, listen all the very best of luck. What

1503
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 2: have you got planned for the rest of the year

1504
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 2: beyond that you're busy?

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01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 13: Yeah, to me, it's just about trying to find some

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01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 13: more budget to get into the car, so I want

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01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 13: to be testing as much as possible within the next month.

1508
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 13: If I do well at this sim test, I get

1509
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 13: to be high Tech's last seat at the F one

1510
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 13: Rookie Navara Test in September. So hopefully this goes well

1511
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 13: and then we get on track as much as we

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01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:28,919
Speaker 13: can before September eighteenth.

1513
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 2: Obviously, we wish you all the very best. Lovely to

1514
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 2: talk with you and maybe we'll catch up before the

1515
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 2: end of the year.

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01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 13: Thank you so much. Mate.

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01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 2: Rihanna o'meira hunt out of Stratford upon Avon this morning.

1518
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 2: So there's a name to watch.

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01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 1: Eight twenty the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Rainthrowver News, Tom's Dead.

1520
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:47,560
Speaker 2: B A little hits up Dafitil Day just around the

1521
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 2: corner of Friday August twenty nine, if you want to

1522
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,600
Speaker 2: note that down Friday August twenty nine chants for us

1523
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 2: all to give some support. One of three New Zealand

1524
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 2: is affected, of course by cancer. So this is why

1525
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 2: A and Z have been a proud partner of the

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01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 2: Cancer Society for I thirty five years. They stand with

1527
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 2: our community in supporting this important issue which is good,

1528
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 2: So Daffidil Day, your donation helps provide the vital care

1529
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 2: of the transport to treatment, the nurses, the accommodation, the counseling.

1530
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 2: It also supports prevention programs research helping to improve outcomes

1531
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 2: for future generations, which is critically important. Of course. So

1532
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 2: you wear yellow by a daffodil, show you support. But

1533
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:21,720
Speaker 2: if you can go a step further, you can make

1534
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 2: a donation, because every daffodil, every dollar, every bit of

1535
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,599
Speaker 2: kindness counts. Of course, it's about care, it's about hope,

1536
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 2: it's about standing with those who need it most. So

1537
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 2: A and Z a right behind it. You text the

1538
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 2: word donate, text the word donate, and you send it

1539
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 2: off to three four nine three three four nine three

1540
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 2: to make an instant three dollars donation to the Cancer Society.

1541
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 2: Ask Mike how impressive was Rihanna? Intelligent, well spoken, clearly

1542
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 2: got a good education. Yes, indeed, probably got INTOEA. See

1543
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 2: it's all it's not all bad, Mike. She's on Instagram too.

1544
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 2: Everyone's on Insta, Mate, They're all on Insta. Don't you

1545
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 2: worry about that? Can I just remind you fully enough?

1546
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 2: I meant to mention it yesterday and I forgot my

1547
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 2: old mate Sean Sommerfield, who's into into cars, motorsport and stuff.

1548
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:06,600
Speaker 2: And you might't remember him from Television three. Still on

1549
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 2: Television three he does a thing on the weekend's called

1550
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 2: CRC Motorsport. Anyway, there was a program called Kiwis Can

1551
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 2: Fly a while back, and then I saw the Kiwis

1552
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 2: Can Fly two on the weekend. And if you're into

1553
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 2: this sort of thing, this is not just about cars,

1554
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 2: it's about There's a company I'd never heard of called Dotson.

1555
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 2: There's a company race Tech, which if you're interracing, everyone's

1556
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 2: heard of race Tech, but it's a documentary about New

1557
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 2: Zealand companies who are just doing amazing things globally in

1558
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 2: the world of motorsport. It's not just here, it's all

1559
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,680
Speaker 2: over the world. Dotson, for example, which I'd never heard of,

1560
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:47,560
Speaker 2: they make twin clutch drives, so in other words, you

1561
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 2: know your paddleshift and stuff like that, if you had

1562
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,680
Speaker 2: to get a BMWM three or whatever with a you know,

1563
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:54,719
Speaker 2: bing bing bing bing bing the paddle ships those twin

1564
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 2: clutch drive systems. What they do is if you want

1565
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 2: to hot your car up and put two or three

1566
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 2: thousand horsepower into it. Then they make the sort of

1567
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:05,679
Speaker 2: gear that will carry that load.

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01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 5: How will that affect my fuel economy?

1569
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 2: Well, it will affect it immensely. You'll use tremendous amounts

1570
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,679
Speaker 2: of it. But that's the joy of it. A lot

1571
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 2: of people Sam and this and GTRs who put these

1572
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 2: the dods and stuff in. But these these race tech

1573
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 2: I mean everyone you see a race tex set, you go, oh,

1574
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 2: those they're everywhere. They're like everyone who drives a race

1575
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 2: car drives a race anyway. It's a very good program.

1576
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 2: So so look that up as well, worth having a

1577
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,679
Speaker 2: look at. Just before I finish boring you with motor racing,

1578
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,680
Speaker 2: go if you can be bothered and you didn't see

1579
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 2: it at the time, go and watch Lewis Hamilton's interview

1580
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 2: post race yesterday. I've seen Lewis mope before. I've seen

1581
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 2: Lewis feel sorry for himself many a time. I've seen

1582
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 2: Lewis mumble and stumble his way through a post race

1583
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:54,600
Speaker 2: scenario in which he has down on himself. How he

1584
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 2: thinks he's useless, How it's no one else's fault but him,

1585
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. But I have seen nothing like

1586
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 2: I saw yesterday, and if he leaves Ferrari before the

1587
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:08,680
Speaker 2: end of the season, I will not be remotely surprised.

1588
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 2: For those with some longevity, you've seen something similar at Mercedes.

1589
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 2: But when you saw it at Mercedes, he was on

1590
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 2: the booge of leaving Mercedes. But yesterday, over the weekend,

1591
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 2: he made a couple of things that were really weren't

1592
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 2: all over the world. One he said, I'm useless. I'm useless,

1593
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 2: and we'll need to change drivers. Now that's you know,

1594
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 2: it's a bad day. He didn't have a good weekend. Unfortunately.

1595
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:31,720
Speaker 2: Charlotte Claire, his cohort at Ferrari, had quite a good day,

1596
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 2: not as good as he wanted because he had poll

1597
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 2: and he came fourth in the end. But be that

1598
01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 2: is it made. Lewis was nowhere near fourth. Anyway. He

1599
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 2: said something, he said things aren't good in the background

1600
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 2: at the moment, and that led everyone to go, this

1601
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 2: hasn't gone well, and so if Lewis is not.

1602
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 3: He's probably just talking about the voices in his head

1603
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 3: with it.

1604
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 2: But thank god for the summer break. He's got three

1605
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 2: weeks to sort his head out. But that is not

1606
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:58,759
Speaker 2: a winning strategy for the second part of the season.

1607
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 2: I can tell you that for nothing News for you

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01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 2: is next Hie Paul from Avy World.

1609
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Speaker 1: News, Opinion and everything in between, the Mic Hofting Breakfast

1610
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 1: with Bailey's real estate altogether better across residential, commercial and

1611
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Speaker 1: rural news talks.

1612
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Speaker 2: Head be worried about our wine. How'll come back to

1613
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:19,639
Speaker 2: that in a moment. Interesting new numbers anyway, Speaking of numbers,

1614
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 2: doctors senior so pretty much as well as far as

1615
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 2: I can work out, I don't know how closely you

1616
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 2: follow the stuff, but pretty much everyone in the health

1617
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 2: sector doesn't like being in the health sector at the moment.

1618
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 2: So the nurses were on strike. The other day midwives

1619
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 2: cut a deal, so that was encouraging. So fairly good

1620
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Speaker 2: numbers around the midwives salary as far as I could

1621
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 2: work out. Senior doctors who are also a bit angsty,

1622
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 2: they've been offered. Let me just toss these numbers at

1623
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 2: you and see what you think. So the offer from

1624
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Speaker 2: Health New Zealand is a first year specialist would receive

1625
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 2: a seventeen thousand, seven hundred dollars pay increase, which is

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01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 2: nine and a half percent. A second year specialist would

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01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 2: get eleven thousand, eight hundred, which is a six point

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01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 2: two percent increase. Specialists would also receive a further one

1629
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:58,719
Speaker 2: point five percent over the course of the proposed settlement,

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01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 2: and specialists on step four or above would get between

1631
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:03,720
Speaker 2: three point five and three point eight percent applied over

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01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 2: a twenty one month period. Does that sound as in

1633
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 2: percent dig you know?

1634
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Speaker 13: You go?

1635
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:07,719
Speaker 2: Oh are you going to meet the cost of living

1636
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 2: and all that? I mean, I know the cost of

1637
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 2: living and the insurance and the rights and stuff is bad,

1638
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 2: but it's not six point two or nine point five

1639
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:16,600
Speaker 2: percent bad as it seems like a reasonable deal to me.

1640
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 2: And they claim the union's claim it amounts to a

1641
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 2: pay cut. How do they argue that twenty two.

1642
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 1: To nine international correspondence with Insite Eye Insurance Peace of

1643
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 1: Mind for New Zealand business ride.

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01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 2: Hid in the UK? We go Roderick, very good morning

1645
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 2: to you, my friend, Come on in, Mike, our old

1646
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 2: mate Tommy. What have they got on for this time?

1647
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:40,719
Speaker 7: GB eight or a lettered TB eight assault. What happened

1648
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:44,679
Speaker 7: was that this ID say, if your audience is familiar

1649
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 7: with the name Tommy Robinson viye, now given that he

1650
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 7: is he's the kind of right wing I kind of

1651
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 7: of protest and activism and very very much disdained by

1652
01:16:56,439 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 7: everybody else. He was actually seeing on coast circuit television

1653
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 7: walking away from a man who'd clearly been hit. The

1654
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 7: question is whether Tommy Robinson hit him. He flew straight

1655
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 7: off to Portugal and the police arrested him on his

1656
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 7: way back from Pharaoh. It'll be interesting to see if

1657
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 7: he gets a fair trial, because hitherto he hasn't been

1658
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 7: given a fair trial. Now you might argue, fair enough,

1659
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 7: he's an awful man, but the way he's been treated

1660
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 7: by the law courts in the past has inflamed the

1661
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 7: views of the far right, and they feel they've got

1662
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 7: a point. You know that there is a conspiracy against them.

1663
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,959
Speaker 7: Always treat these people the way you treat anyone else.

1664
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:49,799
Speaker 2: All right, now, farage So he wants the immigration status

1665
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 2: of people who are arrested. I'm watching yet again, Rod

1666
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 2: another summer of if, honestly, if I was in government,

1667
01:17:56,920 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 2: would I promise to stop the boats? Knowing sure in

1668
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 2: my heart of hearts I didn't stand a hopenhill.

1669
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 7: Well yeah you might if you actually did it. I

1670
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 7: think Germany has cut its its refugee asylum seekers numbers

1671
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 7: by fifty percent. America has cut its asylum seeker numbers,

1672
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 7: you know, people coming over from Mexico, primarily by someone

1673
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 7: the origin of eighty percent. It can be done, but

1674
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:28,640
Speaker 7: it needs it needs a degree of action and severity

1675
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,600
Speaker 7: which the Labor government, and in fairness before it the

1676
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 7: Conservative government simply wasn't prepared to adopt. You can do it,

1677
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 7: I think you know. One answer was the Rwanda answer,

1678
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 7: which is to send all the asylum seekers to Ruwanda.

1679
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:48,799
Speaker 7: What should certainly be done and has never been done,

1680
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:51,719
Speaker 7: is to say to all of them, if you attempt

1681
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:55,640
Speaker 7: to enter this country illegally, the de facto will not

1682
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 7: be given asylum. And that seems to me to be

1683
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 7: the most root out of all of this. It would

1684
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 7: be a deterrent. But anyway, for ours wants for ours

1685
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 7: wants police to release the immigration status of the criminals

1686
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 7: who are arrested for serious crimes. And this is based

1687
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 7: around one in Warwickshire in which it's suspected that the

1688
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 7: people who sexually assaulted a twelve year old girl were

1689
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:24,759
Speaker 7: Afghans Flores.

1690
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 2: Has it been through going through as we speak?

1691
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 1: It am all right.

1692
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 2: It seems to be the north of Scotland.

1693
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 7: It's where I am. That's why I mention it. You see,

1694
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:37,760
Speaker 7: if you were talking to some bloke in London, he

1695
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 7: wouldn't even know that florists existed. But up here, I'm

1696
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 7: telling you the trees are down. You can't get out

1697
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:48,720
Speaker 7: your drive because of all the debris. But no one

1698
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 7: south of what will notice for a second.

1699
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 2: And what's it like in the middle of summer with

1700
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:54,759
Speaker 2: a storm.

1701
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 3: What have you got?

1702
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 2: Warm temperatures but big wind.

1703
01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:01,599
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's exactly it. Warm temperatures, big with occasional very

1704
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 7: gusty showers. But it has been seasonably warm. It's been

1705
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 7: nice weather here. We're having a good summer, but these

1706
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 7: storms come. And you know, August in Fairness is known

1707
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 7: for storms that I dare say. The BBC will be

1708
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 7: telling us it's all climate change, but I remember being

1709
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 7: August storms back when I was a kid.

1710
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 2: Exactly, Hey, listen, just while I've got you and quickly

1711
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 2: this I find hard to believe. So the government will

1712
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 2: restrict civil service internships to students from poorer families and

1713
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 2: they want to make Whitehall more working class. This is

1714
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:38,640
Speaker 2: driven by somebody called mcfed and pat Chancellor of the

1715
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 2: Duchy of Lancaster. And you were judged by what your

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01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 2: parents were ruining and doing when you were fourteen. How

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Speaker 2: mental is this?

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Speaker 7: Well, well, okay, let me be devil's advocate for a second.

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Speaker 7: It is unquestionably the case the civil service is of

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Speaker 7: a single view politically into monoculture, and they are largely

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01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 7: they are almost entirely middle class people who've been to

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Speaker 7: Oxford got a ppe and a very pro remain in

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Speaker 7: the EU, very pro assylum secrets, etcetera, etcetera. So they're

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Speaker 7: out of step with the majority of opinion. And I

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Speaker 7: don't know that this is Labour's way of doing something

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Speaker 7: about it. It wants to enfranchise the working class a

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01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 7: bit poor, but I don't know how you can accurately

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Speaker 7: tell who's working class and who isn't. And I suspect

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Speaker 7: that this will simply be a brief spurt of DEI yeah,

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01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 7: I suspect it's just a quick verse of that and

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01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 7: then we'll hear no more about it. It seems to

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Speaker 7: me an absurdity.

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Speaker 2: Right, Rod Gowell, we'll see you Thursday, Rod Little and Britain,

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01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 2: by the way, other matters they plan to evacuate more

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01:21:56,240 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 2: seriously ill children injured in Gaza. It's how many. They

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01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 2: will allow up to three hundred to enter the UK

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Speaker 2: to receive free medical care. Some have been brought in

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Speaker 2: privately so far, but the government's going to get involved

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Speaker 2: via metrics next time. In your europe entry exit system,

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01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 2: the ees will replace the current paper checks, which means

1741
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:20,080
Speaker 2: they're going to go biometrics in the European Union. And

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01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 2: the population Just for funzis England. Wales's Population's gone up

1743
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:27,639
Speaker 2: up one point two percent. They've gained seven hundred six thousand,

1744
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:29,599
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty one people. The population now officially

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01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:33,640
Speaker 2: sits at sixty one million, eight hundred thousand, sixteen to

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Speaker 2: wait nine.

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Speaker 1: The like asking Breakfast Fall show podcast on I have

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Speaker 1: radio powered by news talks that be Mike.

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Speaker 2: In the last three months, I've had eleven percent house

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01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 2: insurance increase, twenty two percent increase of medical insurance and

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01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 2: twenty six percent rates increase, which I'm not sure how

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01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:53,560
Speaker 2: this is sustainable. When you say twenty six in Auckland,

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01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're basing that on because that's

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01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 2: not the number. It varies depending on who you are

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01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:00,760
Speaker 2: where you are, what you got, et cetera. But I mean,

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Speaker 2: I take your point, and I think the first thing

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01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:04,640
Speaker 2: to go? What would be the first thing to go?

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01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 2: You say, I don't know how it's sustainable. For some

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01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 2: people it won't be. So what's first to go? Would

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01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 2: you dump house insurance first before you dump medical insurance

1761
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 2: all the other way around, because you've got no choice

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Speaker 2: on rates. Of course, you've got no choice on power.

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01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:18,720
Speaker 2: You got no choice on gas, but you do have

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01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:22,639
Speaker 2: a choice on home insurance and contents insurance, and power

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01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 2: insurance and medical insurance. Now, this wine grows thing worries

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01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 2: me to a degree. So a lot of rotten grapes

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01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 2: go into the ground as global demand goes down. So

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Speaker 2: the twenty five harvest, which was when do you pick

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01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:37,639
Speaker 2: your grapes? March April, something like that, maybe into May.

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01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 2: So this year's harvest, in other words, five hundred and

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01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 2: nineteen thousand tons, which is the second largest normally quite good,

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01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 2: good news to have a lot. What I'm into is quality,

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01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 2: not quantity, but be that as it may. Seventy five

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01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:51,600
Speaker 2: to one hundred thousand tons, though is remained unharvested. So

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01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 2: if you're taking five thousand, one hundred, so it's twenty

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01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:56,680
Speaker 2: percent never got off the tree or the plant or

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01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 2: the vine. Companies picked what they were required to pick

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01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 2: and they left the rest behind. Domestic storage is close

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01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 2: to capacity, There is falling global demand. Infantories are serving

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01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 2: you on blanc are at ten year highs Marlborough, Fifteen

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Speaker 2: to twenty percent of the tonnage was unharvested. Now let

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01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 2: me ask you a couple of questions around that. By

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01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 2: the way, serving on blanc growers got eighteen hundred to

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01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 2: eighteen fifty a ton, which is down from twenty one

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Speaker 2: to fifty a ton last year twenty four hundred a

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Speaker 2: ton twenty three, So the price is are back at

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01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:26,760
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen twenty nineteen level. So here's my question for you.

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Speaker 2: One is serving you on blanc at last becoming an issue? So,

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01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 2: in other words, the golden Runners over two. We know

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01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 2: for a fact, and there's nothing we can do about it.

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01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 2: We know for a fact that global consumption of alcohol

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01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 2: is dropping. It's moving away perhaps from wine to things

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01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 2: like spirits, but it's also overall dropping, so there's not

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01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 2: a lot you can do about that. I also wonder

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01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 2: and ask you this question are there are too many

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01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 2: contract growers in this country who aren't actually making wine.

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01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:55,600
Speaker 2: In other words, you're just a grape grower and you

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01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 2: never see a corcus crew cap or a bottle. You

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01:24:57,479 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 2: don't do anything with that. You just wait for a

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Speaker 2: truck to turn up and throw your grapes your one.

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01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 2: They'll end up somewhere else. And I wonder if there's

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01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 2: too much of that. We should follow that up and

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Speaker 2: look into that on the program, possibly tomorrow will the

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01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 2: next day, there's an idea for your semi never stop whiteboarding.

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01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:12,720
Speaker 2: Ten away from nine.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking break best with Bailey's real estate news Dogs.

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Speaker 2: There'd be Mike one might be done. But people are

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01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:21,519
Speaker 2: buying twenty dollars cocktails. How do cocktails get so expensive?

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Speaker 3: Brett?

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Speaker 2: They've been expensive for a long period of time. I

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01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 2: was watching. You know you can go to a flash

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01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 2: hotel in London. At the moment you're paying a minimum

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01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 2: twenty six and generally twenty eight pounds pounds for a

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Speaker 2: standard cocktail in a hotel in London. So do the

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Speaker 2: math on that. You're talking sixty plus dollars.

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Speaker 1: I always remember when you used to go to raffles.

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Speaker 3: If you're in Singapore and you gave a Singapore sling.

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01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 2: Well you still can while standing on the peanut shells,

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01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 2: you still can.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, But and that ways used to be

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Speaker 3: really expensive.

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Speaker 11: And then once cocktails started getting really expensive here, I thought,

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Speaker 11: isn't this course just like being in Singapore?

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Speaker 2: Good logic, Mike. My house values unchanged, but the rates

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01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:05,800
Speaker 2: went up sixteen percent. So there's some big increases out there, David,

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01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 2: there are. And that's been the big MythBuster that suddenly

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01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 2: that your rates were connected to your house. They only

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01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,600
Speaker 2: told you that until it became inconvenient. When it became inconvenient,

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01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 2: they just charged you.

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Speaker 3: Anyway.

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Speaker 2: We canceled our life insurance, Mike, however, we put the

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01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:21,439
Speaker 2: payments that we were going to put into another bank account.

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Speaker 2: Will never cancel the medical. It's a funny thing that

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01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:25,839
Speaker 2: you're the first person I've heard about the life insurance.

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01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:27,559
Speaker 2: I mean, that's just savings, isn't it. I mean, really,

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01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:29,680
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, whereas medical, I know

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01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 2: a lot of people who've canceled medical and put the

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01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 2: money into the account so to years it specifically when

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01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 2: and if they ever need some sort of medical assistance.

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01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:45,559
Speaker 2: Regarding sav look up twenty eight to twenty oh nine

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01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 2: harvest period with a great price went from twenty four

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01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 2: hundred to ton to twelve hundred and one year, then

1843
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 2: took about a decade to build back up again. Similar

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01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 2: issues with massive over supply and wine companies now selling

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01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 2: particularly just twenty twenty four at cost. Yeah, but that's

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01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 2: demand based though at the end of the day, the demand.

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01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 2: I've just always argued and had been consistently wrong, that

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01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 2: the golden age of serving your blanc has to come

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01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 2: to an end, particularly in Britain, and maybe it's now.

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01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 2: Mike fifty seven at Raffles last time? Was there fifty

1851
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 2: seven for at Singapore?

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01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 13: Slain?

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Speaker 2: It depends on that singer last night. I looked at

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01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:20,640
Speaker 2: the dollar the other day. Funny enough, when I was

1855
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 2: last in Singapore, the Singapore dollars about ninety ish ninety cents.

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01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 2: It's now it's seventy. It's just like there's nothing you

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01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 2: can take, you can buy it. You can go with

1858
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:32,160
Speaker 2: your New Zealand dollar short of Fiji. I think short

1859
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 2: of a New Fiji, you can take you a New

1860
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:37,679
Speaker 2: Zealand dollar into the world and buy yourself pretty much

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01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 2: nothing it's pathetic. Five minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 1: Trending now with chemist where house great savings every day.

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Speaker 2: As it turns out, and talking with Rihanna earlier on

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01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:50,840
Speaker 2: in the racing and all that sort of stuff. I've

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01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 2: got a little something for you have to listen to this.

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01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:09,760
Speaker 2: Let's smooth. We should play a game. We should play

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Speaker 2: a game. And I saw it somewhere many years ago.

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01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 2: There was a guy who was on top Gear and

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01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:18,160
Speaker 2: he came on as a guest and they played him

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01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 2: doors shutting of cars and he could name the car.

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01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 2: He could go, that's such a So we should play

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Speaker 2: the game with engines. What's that engine? Well, that engine

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01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:31,559
Speaker 2: is Toyota. It's a V eight and they're putting that

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01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 2: V eight into their Gen three supers. Why are they

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01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 2: doing that, Well, because we're second tired of hybrids and

1876
01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 2: evs that but also the super is going to end

1877
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:42,680
Speaker 2: up in Supercars next season. So it's the all aluminium quadcam.

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01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 19: Two u r gse E five five point four liter

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01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:52,400
Speaker 19: V eight and they're going to unveil that at Bathurst

1880
01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:53,719
Speaker 19: on the first of September.

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01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:55,799
Speaker 2: So they are going to be part and Sammy's insisting

1882
01:28:55,840 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 2: I knew it. I knew it. Chat GBT was wrong.

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01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:03,560
Speaker 2: So I said this this, this Toyota is going to

1884
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:07,200
Speaker 2: become sign saying, are you telling me Toyota, GM and

1885
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:10,679
Speaker 2: Mustang are going to be in supercars? So sammy chat

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01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:11,759
Speaker 2: GBTS it goes.

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01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:12,000
Speaker 3: Yep, yep.

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Speaker 2: It's never happened before. There's never been three cars in supercar.

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01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 2: The chat TPT said, I said, I remember Thistens, I

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01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 2: remember Listens and Commodorees and Fords.

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01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 3: The weird thing is what kind of cad is it

1892
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 3: that Sam droves?

1893
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, it's a Listen exactly full of Dubai chocolate

1894
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 2: that he's brought from Sharon and Tiata to. But that's

1895
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 2: a story for another day. Anyway, where was ill? Did

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01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:39,640
Speaker 2: I get to the part where we should play a

1897
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:40,599
Speaker 2: game with engines or something?

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01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 13: Yeah?

1899
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:42,759
Speaker 2: I think I got that part out, didn't I. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: We're back tomorrow morning from six Here as always Happy Days.

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Speaker 13: Question.

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