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Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues.

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Speaker 2: The Mic Hosking Breakfast with Jaguar the Art of Performance

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Speaker 3: Been Bonian, welcome today new insight into how we should

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Speaker 3: tackle our literacy teaching in schools. The Prime Minister's trip

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Speaker 3: to Japan? One what comes out of it? And two?

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Speaker 3: How bad is this ongoing plane mess? Royal editor at

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Speaker 3: The Mirror, Russell Meyer in after a wonderfully uplifting weekend,

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Speaker 3: We are having our first ever scrutiny week at Parliament.

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Speaker 3: So what does all that means? Having guide to all

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Speaker 3: the sport in the commentary box after Rate Richard Arnold,

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Speaker 3: Steve Price, they are in as well. Hosking, Welcome to

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Speaker 3: the week. Seven past six. An astonishing moment Friday in

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Speaker 3: Britain as the Reform Party of the first time ever

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Speaker 3: overtook the Tories in a poll and in that number

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Speaker 3: or those numbers, is a reminder of how superficial the

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Speaker 3: whole political process of electing a government basically is and

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Speaker 3: the danger of never learning our lesson labor will win

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Speaker 3: the election not because they are brilliant to all their

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Speaker 3: plans are exceptional, but because Britain is sick of people

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Speaker 3: who have been running the place basically since twenty ten.

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Speaker 3: Time kills governments, even brilliant governments, and the Conservatives have

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Speaker 3: been at times brilliant, but not at the moment, in fact,

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Speaker 3: not for quite a while. So the vote is a punishment,

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Speaker 3: not any form of advocacy for improvement. It's entirely possible

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Speaker 3: labor are useless. Labour here were useless when we gave

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Speaker 3: them an astonishing fifty percent of the vote in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: Many a landslide is followed by regret. But the Reform

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Speaker 3: vote is a disaster for two reasons. One because they

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Speaker 3: won't win any seats because it's first past the post

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Speaker 3: and it's the unfairness of the first part the post system.

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Speaker 3: You can have nineteen percent of the vote and still

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Speaker 3: get nothing, whereas the Tories can have eighteen percent of

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Speaker 3: the vote but we'll win dozens of seats. But more importantly,

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Speaker 3: the Reform Party are in plain not because they're brilliant

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Speaker 3: or have a long standing, well established series of widely

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Speaker 3: supported policy ideas, but because Nigel Ferrag, who wasn't even running,

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Speaker 3: changed his mind. Nigel's a great campaigner, wonderful with the

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Speaker 3: oratory and gets a lot of coverage because of what

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Speaker 3: he says and how he says it. Sunk and Starmer

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Speaker 3: are boring as so Nigel lights the place up verbally

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Speaker 3: and that, it seems, is all you need to draw support.

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Speaker 3: My overarching sense of this is this won't play out

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Speaker 3: as badly for the Tories as current polling shows, but

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Speaker 3: it is looking like a lesson yet again that we

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Speaker 3: see in so many Western democracies that who gets elected

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Speaker 3: is not a well considered, well studied exercise. It's an

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Speaker 3: act of frustration or anger or vengeance with a good

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Speaker 3: dollop of hope attached. That you don't end up with buffoons.

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Speaker 3: Farage doesn't deserve nineteen. The Tories don't deserve eighteen. Farage

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Speaker 3: isn't that good, the Tories aren't that bad. But that's

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Speaker 3: not how the game has played.

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Speaker 1: Sadly, what news of the world in ninety second.

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Speaker 3: And given the poles, the toy has got a lot

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Speaker 3: of work to do, of course, but they've not given

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Speaker 3: up book. So we're still fighting for every voo. We're

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Speaker 3: just saying to people, if the polls were true, and

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Speaker 3: if that's what people do when it comes to polling day,

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Speaker 3: that's what you're going to get lob dim stunt mayn

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Speaker 3: Ed Davey claiming falling off things into the waters working

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Speaker 3: for them.

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Speaker 1: Whenever we do one of those stunts to engage people.

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Speaker 3: So I show that I'm not taking myself too seriously.

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Speaker 1: I'm taking the voter seriously. We've had lots of policy ideas.

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Speaker 3: Are the elections, namely the US one growing since Trump

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Speaker 3: might have basically made up his mind on VP. This

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Speaker 4: It's him actually pretty intelligent. I can sift through issues

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Speaker 4: really really well. It's about judgment, it's about logic extremes,

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Speaker 4: It's about how you make decisions. At the end of

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Speaker 4: the day, do I believe in myself one hundred percent?

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Speaker 3: I do logic extremes. Also stateside there's growing momentum behind

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Speaker 3: a boycott of Knit and Yahoo. Now he's due to

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Speaker 3: speak to the Congress in July, Democrats increasingly deciding not

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Speaker 5: I said that if he wants to come to speak

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to sit in a one way lecture.

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Speaker 3: Then to the peace summit, in Switzerland where Zelenski's calling

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Speaker 6: We have two three thousands of people who have had years,

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Speaker 6: years of their lives taken away while being tortured, who

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Speaker 6: are being lied to, who are told that no one

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Speaker 3: And to the football where the pints are being sunk

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Speaker 3: and the expectation is rising for England and they're opening

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Speaker 3: against Serbia.

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Speaker 7: Very confident, and I troubled all this where from not

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Speaker 8: But not about its fu mobass.

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Speaker 3: Finally all right, finally another blow for self driving cars.

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Speaker 3: WAYM has recalled again all their cars because they wouldn't

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Speaker 3: stop running into power poles. It was due to a

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Speaker 3: software update on their jag your Eye pacers, so they

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Speaker 3: the maps. So good luck with all of that. Actually,

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Speaker 3: I've got some ev news for you this morning. That's

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Speaker 3: news of the world in ninety seconds. Have you missed it?

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Speaker 3: Over the weekend? Ramaphosa's back, unfortunately, and that will put

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Speaker 3: the handbrake on any progress of South Africa. The thing

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Speaker 3: about it is the African National Congresses. I'm sure you're

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Speaker 3: well aware. By now, I didn't get a majority for

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Speaker 3: the first time ever. They came up with forty percent.

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Speaker 3: The other guys the Democratic Alliance the DA as they know,

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Speaker 3: your government. But the next step is for Ramaphosa to

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Speaker 3: allocate cabinet positions which will include members of the DA,

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Speaker 3: so that'll be a first. So we watch it. We

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Speaker 3: watch and wait over the next couple of days, twelve past.

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Speaker 1: Six, costing breakfasts.

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Speaker 3: Trying to work out whether this has come from tactical

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Speaker 3: pools as they're calling this is Israel Southern Gaza allowed

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Speaker 3: delivery of increased quantities of humanitarian aid, so the polls

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Speaker 3: is underway will remain in effect for eleven hours each day,

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Speaker 3: each and every day. They were allowing sixty eight trucks

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Speaker 3: five hundred, so they I don't know where the pressures

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Speaker 3: seen they need to acquiesce, or what's happened. But anyway,

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Speaker 3: for now it's on fifteen past six.

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Speaker 3: Management at Greg Smith is with us this Monday morning, Morning,

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Speaker 3: Mate Morning, Mike now food inflation are like those numbers.

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Speaker 3: It's almost like it used.

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Speaker 7: To be exactly that the can use. So if that's

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Speaker 7: a report of that food price increase just point two

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Speaker 7: smallest increase in ten twenty eight. And see quite right,

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Speaker 7: to cheaper prices of fruit and vegies of down eleven percent, meat, poultry, fish,

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Speaker 7: but just less so. Restaurant meals than ready to eat

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Speaker 7: food prices are almost five per cents are still pretty high,

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Speaker 7: but grocery prices are coming down. Increases just one point

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Speaker 7: three percent. Good news with cheese lovers, Mike prices are

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Speaker 7: for just over ten bucks down to thirteen bucks sixteen

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Speaker 7: only food prices that are coming down, Mike, Petrol prices

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Speaker 7: and Petron diesels fifty percent more expensive than free covid

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Speaker 7: no one on less. Good news on inflation, Mike and

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Speaker 3: Of all this talk about Taylor Swift, i've heard the

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Speaker 7: Oh I did see amazing and that. So yeah, we're

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Speaker 7: talking swift flation here, good news and inflation here. But yeah,

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Speaker 7: potential setback in the UK. So the Big Even meets

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Speaker 7: fans are spending like it's going out of fashion. Fifteen

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Speaker 7: What allegiance of swifties are upset? She didn't come here

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Speaker 3: That's true. And then we got some good news from Adobe.

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Speaker 7: This is an aus earning so Adobe facialp maker these

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Speaker 7: years sawed fifteen percent on Friday. That was the biggest

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Speaker 7: using the key driver, Mike, Yes, that's right. It's AI

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Speaker 7: news last week. No Adobe, but also Oracle was high

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Speaker 3: planes and education this morning, Mike. The PPDA take our

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Speaker 3: they saw Luckson's motorcade. He's gone, and Dame Terus Walsh,

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Speaker 10: Who do you think we're trying. I think we're trying

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Speaker 10: You watched the Dame mate?

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Speaker 9: You you the journey? You're right? What you see?

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Speaker 3: I love them personally, uh and we we will after

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Speaker 2: You're trusted home for news, sport, entertainment's opinion and Mike

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Speaker 2: Mike Hosking breakfast with Bailey's real estate altogether better across residential, commercial,

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Speaker 3: B Mike, I find it hard to believe the business delegation.

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Speaker 3: don't know why you wouldn't, as the Prime Minister, simply

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Speaker 3: A professor of international relations at a Tager University, Robert

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Speaker 3: Patman is, whether it's Robert, very good morning.

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Speaker 9: To you, Good morning mine.

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Speaker 3: What's your impression of Japan. Mine of Japan is, yes,

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Speaker 3: they're big, and yes they're influential. But of all the

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Speaker 12: I agree with you in terms of perception. But since

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Speaker 12: So you know, we are seeing sad of the improving

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Speaker 3: Are they open traders. I mean, there's very conservative uncertain

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Speaker 12: Minded, Mike. They do believe in multilateralism and they do

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Speaker 12: and it's a it's just frustrating about as you're saying

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Speaker 12: It just doesn't you know, it's about time the go.

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Speaker 9: I've got on top of this.

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Speaker 12: Of the area, Yeah, I understand that Japan is a

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Speaker 3: All right, Robert, good to catch up with you appreciate

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Speaker 3: it very much, Robert Patman, Professor of International Relations. Out

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Speaker 3: of a Tiger UNI nineteen minutes away from seven paskting

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Speaker 3: I mean, I assume it's titanium. It's just they're not

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Speaker 3: sure what else was in it. So Boeing cannot catch

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Speaker 3: a break. Richard next eighteen too.

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Speaker 1: The Mike costing breakfast, Mike Wanno.

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Speaker 3: Would all those top CEOs travel together on the same

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Speaker 3: crapped out old plane. Surely the risk of them all

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Speaker 3: in the same plane at the same place far too risky.

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Speaker 3: Collegial it'll be, you know, you go separately, the coordination,

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Speaker 3: all that sort of thing. Very New Zealand thing to do, Mike,

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Speaker 3: the plane for the PM. Why can't they listen to

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Speaker 3: New Zealand seven eighty seven. I've said this a million times.

446
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Speaker 3: There are no planes in the world. Every airline in

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Speaker 3: the world is struggling for capacity. Tourism is booming. They

448
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Speaker 3: cannot get their hands on enough planes. There are no

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Speaker 3: planes in New Zealand has left than the planes they want.

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Speaker 3: At the moment, they have no spear planes. Mike, why

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Speaker 3: don't we build our own planes? Boeing can't build their

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Speaker 3: own planes at the moment. Six forty five are Oh

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Speaker 3: what a difference of week makes. You're on the seven

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Speaker 3: five seven again? Yeah, we will it got us there

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Speaker 3: Mic last time once further. It's a longer truck. But

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Speaker 3: I turned out the takeoff and the landing, and so

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Speaker 3: I've got every confidence. I've got more building confidence every

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Speaker 3: time I get on that plane.

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Speaker 13: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind

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Speaker 13: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 3: You have been lad to come back to Haunt and

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Speaker 3: Richard Arnold's outside morning to you.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, good morning mate.

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Speaker 3: Supreme Court front and center.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: President Biden doing what he is held back from doing

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Speaker 14: for a while.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 14: He is ripping into the Supreme Court. Heighart court in

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Speaker 14: this country, says Biden.

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Speaker 15: Supreme Court has never been as out of kilder as

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Speaker 15: it is today.

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Speaker 9: Well.

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Speaker 14: Biden was appearing at a star studded Hollywood fundraiser last

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Speaker 14: night alongside and former President Obama. Also at this thing

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Speaker 14: late night TV host Jimmy Kimmel, who served as MC,

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Speaker 14: and several alist actors, among them George Clooney, Julie Roberts,

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Speaker 14: Barbra Streisen and so on. At this event, they raised

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Speaker 14: close to fifty million dollars in New Zealand equivalent. Biden

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Speaker 14: predicted that the next president, whoever, is likely to have

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Speaker 14: two more Supreme Court picks. Former President Trump already has

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Speaker 14: three nominees on the court as part of the six

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Speaker 14: to three Conservative majority.

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Speaker 15: Currently.

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Speaker 14: If Trump gets in, says Biden, he's going to a

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Speaker 14: point maybe two more justices flying flags upside down. That's

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Speaker 14: his reference to Justice Samuel Alito, who blamed his wife,

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Speaker 14: you recall, for flying an upside down flag at his

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Speaker 14: place in what he said was a dispute with neighbors,

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Speaker 14: only to have another flag used by the Capitol Hill

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Speaker 14: rioters seen at the Elito's other place, their holiday home elsewhere.

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Speaker 14: So they're big on political flag flying. This comes after

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Speaker 14: the Trump bolsted Supreme Court overturned abortion rights with Row v. Wabe,

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Speaker 14: and this past weekend issued something the New York Times

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Speaker 14: editorial board cause quote, one of the most astonishingly dangerous

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Speaker 14: decisions ever issued by the court, end quote, and a

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Speaker 14: decision that quote will prove fatal. They overturned the Trump

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Speaker 14: ban on bump stocks, the devices that can turn a

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Speaker 14: semi automatic weapon into a virtual machine gun. They say,

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Speaker 14: practiced users can fire maybe one hundred and eighty rounds

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Speaker 14: per minute with an AR fifteen, most commonly used weapon

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Speaker 14: in the routine mass murders here. We see those stories

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Speaker 14: every second day. The bump stock lets them boost that

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Speaker 14: number of shots permitted to as much as eight hundred.

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Speaker 14: That's what we saw in the twenty seventeen Las Vegas

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Speaker 14: shooting where a fellow open fire on the crowd at

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Speaker 14: a country music festival. And here's just a little reminder

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Speaker 14: of how they went. Yeah, this was this was a massacre,

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Speaker 14: one person killing sixty other people, directly wounding four hundred

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Speaker 14: and thirteen and leading in the panic to some eight

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Speaker 14: hundred sixty seven injuries. Even Trump reacted, but not so

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Speaker 14: Justice Clarence Thomas on the Supreme Court, who argues that

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Speaker 14: the eighty dollars bump stock does not fit the precise

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Speaker 14: definition of a machine gun or associated device since it

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Speaker 14: uses the gun's recoil to increase speed of fire. In dessent,

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Speaker 14: Justice Sonia Soto Mayor voiced her astonishment, writing, when I

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Speaker 14: see a bird that walks like a duck, swims like

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Speaker 14: a duck, and quacks like a duck, I call that

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Speaker 14: bird a duck. The bumpstock, she says, turns weapons into

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Speaker 14: machine guns. Clarence Thomas did not agree. Thomas, of course,

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Speaker 14: is the justice caught out by the media for taking

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Speaker 14: luxury trips worth millions and millions of bucks, paid for

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Speaker 14: by billionaire real estate tycoon and Nazi memorabilia collector Harland Crow.

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Speaker 14: That disclosure force Thomas to admit just the other day

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Speaker 14: that he'd taken such previes, made a list of them,

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Speaker 14: taken them from someone who well might have cases of

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Speaker 14: interest before the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 3: He listed the trips last week.

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Speaker 14: Then Pro public I said, hey, you know there's three

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Speaker 14: other private jet trips you didn't bother dimension Democratic Senator

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Speaker 14: Chris Murphy.

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Speaker 13: This well Justice Thimus is engaged in is just a

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Speaker 13: grift right.

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Speaker 12: He's got a major political player on the outside who

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Speaker 12: absolutely has political and business interests at the court.

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Speaker 14: Meantime, back on the guns, there have been three more

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Speaker 14: mass shootings in the past twenty four hours Mike in Texas,

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Speaker 14: two dead, multiple injured, Massachusetts. Seven youths shot up in

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Speaker 14: a car meet up at in Michigan where nine wounded,

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Speaker 14: including two young children, at a shooting at a swimming

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Speaker 14: pool splash pad. That shooter fight as many as twenty

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Speaker 14: eight times reloading, then killed himself. He was in his forties,

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Speaker 14: lived with his mum, and while police now say he

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Speaker 14: likely had some mental issues, he had loads of AMMO

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Speaker 14: at an AR fifteen. They sold him the weapon anyway,

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Speaker 14: despite anybody's concerns about anything, and now, of course, if

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Speaker 14: he were still alive, he'd be able to buy that

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Speaker 14: bump stock and fire eight hundred rounds per minute.

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Speaker 3: All right, might see Wednesday. Appreciate it very much. Richard

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Speaker 3: Arnold stateside, Mike, why doesn't New Zealand taxtpayer set up

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Speaker 3: a crowdfunding page to buy a new plane for the government. Sorry,

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Speaker 3: I'm still laughing. What an embarrassment is? And I conspiracy

553
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Speaker 3: theorists might lead you to believe maybe if you make

554
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Speaker 3: it so bad, so embarrassing, so humiliating, we acquiesce and

555
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Speaker 3: go why not let's buy another plane? O nine away

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Speaker 3: from seven.

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Speaker 2: The mist breakfast with Jaguar and news tog sedb storing

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Speaker 2: it's weirder.

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Speaker 3: So yesterday when they land in p and g your

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Speaker 3: fuel up, so they were going to be there for

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Speaker 3: an hour. Somewhere along the line, somebody organizes a meeting

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Speaker 3: with the prime the Papua New Guinea Prime Minister. So

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Speaker 3: Luxon goes to meet the pap who no one else

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Speaker 3: has visas, so no one else can get in the

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Speaker 3: So the reason they're all in the room, the one room,

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Speaker 3: the delegation of the medium excuse me, is because no

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Speaker 3: one can get into the country because not allowed in

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Speaker 3: the country because they weren't expecting to be in the country,

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Speaker 3: because they were going to touch down, fuel up and

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Speaker 3: carry on, except for Luxon, who was going to wander

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Speaker 3: off to meet the Prime Minister allegedly, and yet no

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Speaker 3: one could cover it or see it or have anything

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Speaker 3: to do with it. And he was then going to,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, presumably pop back on the plane and

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Speaker 3: then take off again until he found the plane was broken,

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Speaker 3: then just hopped in cars and left. Anyway, it's too random.

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Speaker 3: There's something not right. The other thing that's slightly unusual

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Speaker 3: for me is Mark Mitchell turned up in Switzerland over

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Speaker 3: the weekend as our representative at the peace Summit eighty nations.

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Speaker 3: China not there, Russia not there, Biden critically not there.

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Speaker 3: But good old Mark Mitchell from New Zealand turns up

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Speaker 3: to give Zelenski a hug and to achieve, as far

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Speaker 3: as I can work out, this is not a criticism

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Speaker 3: of Mitchell, achieve nothing. They sit around the table and

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Speaker 3: they decide it's not fair what's happening in the war,

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Speaker 3: and it's got to stop. So it's a long way

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Speaker 3: to go just for that, isn't it. But at least

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Speaker 3: he got there. Five minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: All the ins are the outs. It's the fizz on

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Speaker 1: the Mike Husking breakfast on News Talk said.

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Speaker 3: B Coco problems prices through the roof. A metric ton

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Speaker 3: of coco usually costs about four grand. However, we could

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Speaker 3: croft in the last year industries panicked a but good

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Speaker 3: news for the crop growers, bad news for the companies

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Speaker 3: that can. In April this year coco hit eighteen grand.

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Speaker 3: Normally four hit eighteen grand a ton. Price right now

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Speaker 3: this morning is sixteen thousand. The problems West Africa, majority

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Speaker 3: of the world's coco's supplied out of their farmers hit

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Speaker 3: with the crop disease. Couple with the fact that lower

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Speaker 3: price has started to be paid to them last year,

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Speaker 3: which meant that a lot of them swap from cocoa

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Speaker 3: to rubber. And you can't make chocolate a rubber. I

603
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Speaker 3: don't know if you've tried, it's just hopeless. So in

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Speaker 3: the last couple of days Garner said they would be

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Speaker 3: laying a three hundred and fifty thousand ton delivery to

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Speaker 3: next season. That'll push the price even higher. If price

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Speaker 3: has come down, They're expected two in September. By the way,

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Speaker 3: increases will still hit your favorite brands next year when

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Speaker 3: those long term contracts with the likes of Hershey and

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Speaker 3: Mars and Ferreira, or the Rochets and the mandoliese they

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Speaker 3: run out. The other option discussed by the industry was

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Speaker 3: having less in a box, fewer chocolates in a box,

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Speaker 3: so like nine in a box instead of twelve. But

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Speaker 3: you know what happens when that happens. Everyone goes, You're

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Speaker 3: in Simon and James in the afternoon, don't you Simon

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Speaker 3: and James will go, Oh, you gotta know, have you

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Speaker 3: guys noticed there's not as many chocolates in the books?

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Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty two to eighty and off

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Speaker 3: you go. And that's what happens, isn't it. So I

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Speaker 3: don't think the consumer likes that sort of stuff. Now

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Speaker 3: there's a listener ac report. There's another weird thing that's

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Speaker 3: happening this morning. Curse of writing, You know, curse of

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Speaker 3: writing where all the letters are joined together and you

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Speaker 3: use a felt tipped or whenever the hell you're using

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Speaker 3: these days. I thought we're all on computers anyway. Curse

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Speaker 3: of writing is a must. Handwriting is a must, and

627
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Speaker 3: they're looking at you're ready for the idea that the

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Speaker 3: new idea for twenty twenty four for young kids in

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Speaker 3: primary schools. We test them, we see how they're doing,

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Speaker 3: and the idea that this is a new idea in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four is probably a clue as to why

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Speaker 3: our education is where it is. We will look at

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Speaker 3: this after the news, which.

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Speaker 2: Is next the newsmakers and the personalities the big names.

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Speaker 1: Talk to like the Costing Breakfast with a Veda Live

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Speaker 1: the Age You Feel News Talks VB seven past seven.

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Speaker 3: Once again we wonder aloud what to do about military

638
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Speaker 3: air movement, especially when it comes to the seven five seven.

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Speaker 3: The PM's delegation of course stranded and P and G.

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Speaker 3: He got to Japan last night. Commercially the rest of

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Speaker 3: the delegation get there tomorrow. Defense Minister Judith Collins with us,

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Speaker 3: good morning, good morning. Make so my understanding is it

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Speaker 3: goes if it can from P and G the plane

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Speaker 3: this is from P and G down to Brisbane, and

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Speaker 3: then what happens to it there?

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Speaker 9: Do we know?

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Speaker 11: Well, then we'll no doubt it will have to either

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Speaker 11: fly over to New Zealand or more likely be repaired

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Speaker 11: in Brisbane, but it needs a new part. And the

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Speaker 11: point is that can fly at slower speed and lower altitude,

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Speaker 11: but can't do the long hause.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is this isn't your fault, but I

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Speaker 3: mean this is this is this is keystone cop stuff,

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Speaker 3: isn't it. This is just embarrassing now.

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Speaker 11: Well, it is embarrassing, and you know the primes is

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Speaker 11: right you said that. But I would say, though, is

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Speaker 11: that our defense staff have been working on this to

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Speaker 11: try and get it right, and I am really impressed

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Speaker 11: in dedication. They've got very old kits and we're expecting

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Speaker 11: to perform like when you out of the box, and

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Speaker 11: that's simply not going to happen.

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Speaker 3: At some point, the cost of spare parts and the

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Speaker 3: energy put into it must outweigh the cost of doing

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Speaker 3: something about another vehicle, mustn't it.

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Speaker 11: Well, well, it must get to that stage. But I

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Speaker 11: would say too, there are two of these lines. One

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Speaker 11: of them is in long term repair and maintenance at

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Speaker 11: the moment. With the new Zealand that comes out, I'm

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Speaker 11: told we'll get it back at the end of July,

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Speaker 11: and so then we've got to back again. It is

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Speaker 11: really difficult, though, because we're very tight financial circumstances, and

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Speaker 11: you can imagine how hundreds of million spellars being spent

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Speaker 11: on what is essentially executive flight plus troop carrying capability

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Speaker 11: would go down well with everyone in cost living difficulties

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Speaker 11: that we haven't learned.

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Speaker 3: It isn't that the problem though, because it's always politically

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Speaker 3: edgy and has been for decades. That's why the decision,

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Speaker 3: the correct decision, was never made even in good times

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Speaker 3: when bad no government wants to go, hey we need

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Speaker 3: some new planes.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, well it was obviously the decision at the time

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Speaker 11: when they were bought was to buy ten year old

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Speaker 11: planes and that had been had a very hard commercial

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Speaker 11: k life. What our people do keeping these planes going

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Speaker 11: most of the time the vast majority of the time

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Speaker 11: is astonishing. But you know, even commercial flights, sometimes you

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Speaker 11: get decanted off a plane and poll sorry it's not

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Speaker 11: going today, but you know, evident God, and we're much

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Speaker 11: rather that with these planes. The point is is that

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Speaker 11: the Prime Minister can then take delegation of business people,

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Speaker 11: pers also media. That's the point of having them.

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Speaker 16: Really, So so what are we going to do?

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Speaker 3: I mean, we can't continue, you can't leave Greg fouran

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Speaker 3: and Dame Teresa Walsh stuck in P and G. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's just a joke. So either you get some new

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Speaker 3: planes or we need to fly the Prime Minister as

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Speaker 3: delegation commercially from here on. And that's just the way

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Speaker 3: it is.

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Speaker 11: Well, these are some of the options that we're looking at.

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Speaker 11: We've got the defense capability and it has been worked

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Speaker 11: on at the moment, we'll have it go to Camp

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Speaker 11: Cuts in the next two months. That will be one

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Speaker 11: of the things that we have to look at. What

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Speaker 11: is the point of it? And the point might be

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Speaker 11: is that are these pass used for troops? Are they

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Speaker 11: used for the Prime Minister and others? But it's not

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Speaker 11: just the Prime Minister's played. It's not just that and

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Speaker 11: people should understand that. So that's one I guess one

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Speaker 11: of the problems we have is nobody, no Prime minister,

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Speaker 11: wants to spend an awful of money on something that's

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Speaker 11: seen as nice to have by some people. Even though

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Speaker 11: at this time when we've got a situation we have

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Speaker 11: to build the economy. It is really important the PM

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Speaker 11: and business people can get.

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Speaker 3: Out yes, exactly, all right, go well. Defense Minister Judith

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Speaker 3: Collins eleven past seven it's other issues. Perhaps not a surprise,

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Speaker 3: but it turns out HOLF the country's critical hardware and

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Speaker 3: hospitals as out of date. Health New Zealand have said

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Speaker 3: significant investment is needed just to keep the lights on.

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Speaker 3: The former Health New Zealand chair, of course, is Rob

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Speaker 3: Campbell is back of this. Rob, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 9: Good morning.

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Speaker 3: I take it this was the case when you were there.

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Speaker 9: It was certainly the case before I was there for

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Speaker 9: quite a long time. It had been to terror at

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Speaker 9: quite a long time, not just the IT, but the

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Speaker 9: physical infrastructure, the staffing infrastructure, the external infrastructure to support

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Speaker 9: the primary healthcare sector across the board.

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Speaker 3: Is it sort of like the air four seven five seven.

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Speaker 3: It's one of those things when you're short of doctors

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Speaker 3: and nurses, you've focused on them and the bandages.

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Speaker 9: And not the it. No.

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Speaker 8: I don't think the doctors and nurses would feel they

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Speaker 8: had too much attention. I think it's really quite the

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Speaker 8: opposite to that. This is a long term lack of

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Speaker 8: attention not just to spend, but to the efficiency of spend.

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Speaker 8: And it goes back as much to the Ministry of

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Speaker 8: Health and to politicians as it does to far to aura,

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Speaker 8: or indeed their predecessors, the district health boards. There's a

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Speaker 8: system which does not encourage innovation, does not encourage it

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Speaker 8: addressing practical issues of how to make the system work.

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Speaker 8: It's directed from Moolsworth Street, and like many things directed

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Speaker 8: from Woldsworth Street, it doesn't.

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Speaker 9: Work all that well.

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Speaker 3: And does everyone agree with that or not?

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Speaker 9: Frankly, I think everyone does pretty much agree. But the

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Speaker 9: secret is, and I suspect this is true and other

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Speaker 9: areas in the public service, is that you don't talk

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Speaker 9: about it. It's a bit like fight club. You know

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Speaker 9: it's true, you don't talk about it, and therefore you

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Speaker 9: kind of hope it.

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Speaker 3: Will go away, okay, And so hence we end up

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Speaker 3: where we are. An overarching question for you your assessment

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Speaker 3: of our system. Is it as bad as people make

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Speaker 3: it out to be? And is it an example of

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Speaker 3: public systems all over the Western world? Basically because all

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Speaker 3: I ever do is do interviews about how bug it

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Speaker 3: up the health systems? Is it really that bigger mess?

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Speaker 9: It's too big a mess to put up with. It's

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Speaker 9: not an unfamiliar mess compared to other public health systems

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Speaker 9: around the world, But I'm not sure that's much comfort

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Speaker 9: while you're waiting in the emergency department or waiting for

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Speaker 9: an operation. So it is pretty common and there are

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Speaker 9: some really big issues involved with it, all the more

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Speaker 9: reason to take a pragmatic, practical approach to what you

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Speaker 9: can do. There's been a bit of dreaming about our

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Speaker 9: health system. We observe it's terribly bad, and then we

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Speaker 9: have people who come in an event that's really sophisticated

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Speaker 9: twenty first century, twenty second century systems that will deal

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Speaker 9: with all the things, and they ignore on the basic

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Speaker 9: pragmatism of does this work? Do we have a payroll system?

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Speaker 9: Do the lights go on? That kind of thing?

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Speaker 3: Good insight. I appreciate it, Rob Rob Campbell, former head

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Speaker 3: of Health New Zealand. Fourteen minutes past seven, passing Mike

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Speaker 3: once in Brisbane. Can't we sell it for scrap? Mike

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Speaker 3: my blood boil is thinking about the cluster of the

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Speaker 3: New Zealand plane. No thought given to the disrupted of

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Speaker 3: New Zealand passengers on the schedule flight that will divert

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Speaker 3: to Brisbane. No doubt they will be missing onward connections, etc.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure that Tokyo's non WOD connection. I think

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Speaker 3: it's more a destination. But I take your point. All

782
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Speaker 3: at the extra cost to wear in New Zealand, though

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Speaker 3: it won't be at the extra cost to wear in

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Speaker 3: New Zealand, the taxpayer is paying for this. Same goes

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Speaker 3: for those passengers on the scheduled return flight to New Zealand,

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Speaker 3: and that, my friend, is called the domino effect. Fourteen

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Speaker 3: past the my costume. Breakfast News talks every seventeen minutes

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Speaker 3: past seven our first scrutiny week. If you don't know

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Speaker 3: what that is, why would you? Because we've never had one.

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Speaker 3: That's why I said it's our first ever at Parliament

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Speaker 3: this week. We'll talk about that after seven thirty. Men

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Speaker 3: time back to the classroom. This advice to the government

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Speaker 3: to use checkpoints throughout each school year to test children

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Speaker 3: on their literacy and numeracy. Handwriting lessons also recommended. Curse

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Speaker 3: of writing. We should be encouraging kids to write by

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Speaker 3: hand for the first three years. It's all in a

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Speaker 3: report into content for the Revised Curriculum and Literacy. New

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Speaker 3: Zealand Chair Alice Wilson's with us on all of this.

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Speaker 3: Ellis very good morning to you.

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Speaker 12: Good morning.

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Speaker 3: We had a Union member on Earth on doesn't like

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Speaker 3: testing it all. Shouldn't be testing kids at all because

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Speaker 3: kids are stressed, So what do we do?

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Speaker 17: Look, it's the thing about testing is that it needs

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Speaker 17: to be an important part of the teaching process. It's

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Speaker 17: not just that we're testing kids are testing, so we're

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Speaker 17: testing kids as part of our systematic teaching process to

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Speaker 17: have information to know where that child is at and

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Speaker 17: what the issues are and what we're wanting to see

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Speaker 17: and what this report is incising will come through from

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Speaker 17: the mag and the direction the government's now taking is

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Speaker 17: that a use an approach to teaching literacy and teaching

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Speaker 17: mathematics that is informed by where the children are at.

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Speaker 17: It's systematic and it's diagnostic. So it's a structure that

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Speaker 17: practically So.

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Speaker 3: You're talking to me like it's eighteen thirty seven and

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Speaker 3: we've just started the education system and we're not sure

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Speaker 3: how to do it, as opposed to twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 3: and we actually do know how to do it. It's

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Speaker 3: just we're not doing it properly. Sum are refusing to

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Speaker 3: fix it.

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Speaker 17: Yes, yeah, but I think we've got pretty good agreement

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Speaker 17: now that it needs fixing. There are a few naysayers

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Speaker 17: out there and there are a few naysayers that some

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Speaker 17: of the aren't nay says now that there's a lot

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Speaker 17: of money to be training teachers as well mine and

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Speaker 17: I think that's something we should talk about it and

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Speaker 17: when inter sect. But yeah, absolutely teachers haven't been trained

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Speaker 17: in the evidence space teaching practices, partpular structured literacy that

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Speaker 17: helps them to be able to use good quality assessments

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Speaker 17: as part of the teaching process, not so that we

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Speaker 17: can grade heads against each other, but that so that

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Speaker 17: we provide useful information into the teaching process, so that

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Speaker 17: teacher knows where that child is at, what they have

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Speaker 17: and have retained in the classroom, and what they need

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Speaker 17: to now do to progress them. It's about that. It's

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Speaker 17: a diagnostic and information in the texture process. And these

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Speaker 17: checkpoints they're talking about are essentially.

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Speaker 4: That.

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Speaker 17: So they're actually in the slope sequence and working on

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Speaker 17: a scope and sequence of what's been taught. How and

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Speaker 17: at a certain point you're wanting to be able to

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Speaker 17: assess that child not a necessarily stressful way.

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Speaker 16: This is not some kind of test where.

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Speaker 17: They're all, you know, that's not.

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Speaker 9: Or no.

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Speaker 17: And I think you know, we have had a lot

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Speaker 17: of discussion about assessment and you know, natural standards and

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Speaker 17: et cetera. And you know, some assessments are not useful.

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Speaker 17: They're just assessments.

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Speaker 11: We need assessments that.

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Speaker 17: Are providing the right type of information into the teaching process.

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Speaker 17: And that's what's been talked about exactly.

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Speaker 3: All right, ellis appreciated very much. Ellis Wilson lifting literacy.

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Speaker 3: bottle of the amazing element twelve magnesium that supports the

872
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Speaker 3: sleep in the muscle cramps. And that's absolutely free when

873
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Speaker 3: you use the code breakfast, absolutely free. Read the label.

874
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Speaker 3: Take only as directed, of course, but the good deals

875
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Speaker 3: only from about Health on eight hundred triple nine three

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Speaker 3: oh nine or online at about health dot co dot

877
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Speaker 3: nzhsky seven twenty four. Simon Upton has he been watching

878
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 3: the boat in Europe last week and outsized group of

879
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 3: young people. I'm sure you're aware in places like Germany

880
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 3: and Italy voted for the right of not the far right,

881
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 3: and who they didn't vote for was the Greens, despite

882
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 3: the Greens being the alleged go to team for the

883
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Speaker 3: young ones. Now Upton were speaking at the Environmental Defense

884
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 3: Society conference last week. Upton, by the way, if you

885
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 3: don't know's the Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment. Here is

886
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 3: what he said. Listen carefully. There is a danger that

887
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 3: we all get into a bubble of clear sighted, righteous agreement.

888
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 3: And if only other people had sufficient political will and

889
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 3: shared our views, we would all be on our way

890
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 3: to the promised land. He added. We can close polluting

891
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 3: industries or shun them, but in most cases we will

892
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 3: simply import the goods. He also said we must be

893
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 3: willing to entertain environmentally damaging activities like mining. What else

894
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 3: did he say? Calling for green growth isn't the easy

895
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 3: economic and environmental when some people imagine as it will

896
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 3: continually trade one environmental issue for another. Any change, even

897
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 3: a clean green one, will be costly. De growth won't

898
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Speaker 3: be easy, he continued, barring something of a spiritual awakening

899
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Speaker 3: the reality years, we are likely to continue to worship

900
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Speaker 3: the Church of consumption, Simon Upton, where have you been

901
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 3: all my life? It's probably what I quite liked about

902
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 3: them is a health minister many many years ago. But

903
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 3: there is you wake up call. There is your reality

904
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 3: check from a bloke whose job it is to spruit

905
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 3: the climate and the environment. And the value of his

906
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 3: point was laid out in Europe last week. Bludgeon people.

907
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 3: You lose, lie to them about the perception of a transition.

908
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 3: You lose, leave a gap where the lights can't be

909
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 3: turned on on renewables. You lose pretend evs are the

910
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 3: artser but ignore the mining aspect of batteries. You lose.

911
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 3: Close down oil and gas with no consultation, you lose.

912
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 3: Thrash farmers by telling them to have fewer cows and

913
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 3: drawn them in red tape.

914
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 1: You lose.

915
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 3: In Europe last week they lost theory around renewables and

916
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 3: the climate story of late might have smashed finally into

917
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 3: reality and a general fatigue by most of us over

918
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 3: the zealous bs that pedaled at all costs. The kids

919
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 3: in Europe got it, The Environment commissioner clearly gets it,

920
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 3: and I hope those at the conference, once they picked

921
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 3: themselves up off the floor, got it as well. How

922
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,919
Speaker 3: about the chloes and the just cinders of this world

923
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 3: start waking up a bit and reading the room, Pasky Like,

924
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 3: what a cop out? How do we know what children

925
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Speaker 3: are learning? Problem is our teachers are a product of

926
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Speaker 3: a terrible education system, Mike. Testing the kids means you're

927
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Speaker 3: testing the teachers. Good God schools preparing children for the

928
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Speaker 3: real world. I would have thought tests learning to cope

929
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Speaker 3: with stress are a basic life skill, Michael. There are

930
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Speaker 3: six and seven year olds at my son's school who

931
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Speaker 3: cannot write their own name. The unions are on another planet.

932
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Speaker 9: Mike.

933
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Speaker 3: I'm amazed at our best and brightest business people have

934
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Speaker 3: enough spare time and are willing to risk lives flying

935
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Speaker 3: in one of our Air Force junkets that everyone knows.

936
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Speaker 3: The fragile well the time thing is important because of

937
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 3: course they can do business. That they can do business,

938
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Speaker 3: that's what they're about. What's a few hundred million mic

939
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 3: complains for the Prime minister when he could potentially bring

940
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Speaker 3: in billions to the country. You know as well as

941
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Speaker 3: I do. If the prime ministers started to look at

942
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Speaker 3: what they tried to do with the tax cuts and

943
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 3: all the whining and gnashing of teeth went on there,

944
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 3: they stood up this afternoon and said, look, this is

945
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 3: a joke. I'm spending half a billion dollars on a

946
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Speaker 3: couple of new planes. All hell would be to pay

947
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Speaker 3: tell me I am wrong. Scrutiny week.

948
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Speaker 11: What is it?

949
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Speaker 3: We'll tell you more shortly.

950
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Speaker 2: The Breakfast show you can trust, the Mic Hosking Breakfast

951
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: with Jaguar, The Art of Performance News togsa'd be.

952
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Speaker 4: It is.

953
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Speaker 3: Behind the scenes technical drama that I'll let you in

954
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Speaker 3: a later on if I get time. Mike, surely, surely,

955
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Speaker 3: surely any saye New Zealander would give the go ahead

956
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 3: for a new plane. This is nuts. No, they wouldn't.

957
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Speaker 3: I mean mostly a lot of people. You like to

958
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 3: think that people would. But I'm telling you're right here,

959
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 3: you're right now. If the prime ministers see it, even

960
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 3: now in the circumstances, the primister came back and said,

961
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Speaker 3: this is ridiculous. We're leasing two brand new seven eight

962
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 3: sevens or lear jets or whatever you want to call.

963
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 3: The people go nuts. Every lobby group in the country

964
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Speaker 3: would be up in arms. Mike, I don't have enough

965
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Speaker 3: time to elaborate, but primary school teachers currently test kids

966
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Speaker 3: individually all the time to move them through levels. Also,

967
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 3: and as well as the Ministry reporting regime, teachers generally

968
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Speaker 3: don't have enough time. Too many kids in the class.

969
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Speaker 3: My wife has twenty seven age seven and eight generally,

970
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 3: so anyway, we should get Erica Stanford on this. But

971
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Speaker 3: let me come briefly to these numbers as to the

972
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Speaker 3: kid's number of kids in this country who are unemployed,

973
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Speaker 3: not in school or in training. And as hard as

974
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Speaker 3: it is to believe, the numbers are going up, there's

975
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Speaker 3: a growing number of these young people, youth not in

976
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 3: jobs or training or education's called NEAT not in right.

977
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Speaker 3: So year to March, twelve point four percent of kids

978
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Speaker 3: fifteen to twenty four not in employment educational training twelve

979
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Speaker 3: point four percent, fourteen point two percent of the more women.

980
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Speaker 3: That's up from ten point nine percent. How do you

981
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 3: explain this in this country at the moment? How do

982
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 3: you possibly explain that they're not in school, they're not

983
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 3: in training, and they don't have a job. In other words,

984
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Speaker 3: they're not doing anything. Twenty to twenty four year olds

985
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 3: rates even higher, More than eighteen percent of women in

986
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Speaker 3: this bracket were neat twenty seven percent year on year.

987
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 3: Northland has the highest rate Bay of twenty second. In

988
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Speaker 3: Northland the rate is sixteen point three. In Bay of

989
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Speaker 3: plenty at sixteen point two. Explain that to me twenty

990
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 3: two minutes away from it Sport Time commentary box after

991
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Speaker 3: right Andrew sibilind guy have helt. Meantime, Parliament's having its

992
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 3: first ever scrutiny Week. It's an idea borrow from Australia,

993
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 3: apparently to improve oversight of government actions. Select committees will

994
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 3: call ministers and department bosses and for questioning over the

995
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 3: government spending plans. The Leader of the House, Chris Bishop

996
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 3: is with us on this one. Very good morning to you.

997
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:21,439
Speaker 9: Good morning.

998
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 3: Anything going to come out.

999
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 18: Of it, literally, well, I think it will lead to

1000
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 18: best scrutiny of what the government's up to. I mean, fundamentally,

1001
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 18: the government's responsible to Parliament and we've got to go

1002
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Speaker 18: to Parliament and ars into appropriate the money. That's what

1003
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 18: the budget's all about. And so ministers are going to

1004
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 18: front up and explain what they want to do with

1005
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 18: the money and talk about their portfolios. To be honest,

1006
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Speaker 18: we've always done that. It's just that this year we're

1007
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Speaker 18: doing it in a one week period and most of

1008
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Speaker 18: the committees will be meeting for longer. I mean to

1009
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Speaker 18: give you an example. I used to get frustrated when

1010
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 18: I was in the position. We'd get MB which is

1011
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 18: the ad Ministry, Business, Innization and Employment. It's got billions

1012
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 18: of dollars. We've got about thirteen different ministers. We used

1013
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 18: to get them in for an hour and by the

1014
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Speaker 18: time you by the time you sort of divide up

1015
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Speaker 18: the questions and there's a sort of prey hamble or

1016
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Speaker 18: a conclusion and all the rest of it, they have

1017
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 18: like seventeen minutes with MB in charge of like, you know,

1018
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 18: all of these very important things. It'd had barely any

1019
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 18: time to get into it. So it was pretty there

1020
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 18: was pretty one over likely to be honest. But so

1021
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Speaker 18: I think this will be a better way.

1022
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 3: Will you front up as a minister or for example,

1023
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 3: something like fast track and be asked about that or not?

1024
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 18: Yeah, no, I'm up tomorrow. I've got an hour of

1025
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Speaker 18: forty minutes on housing. I've got an hour on infrastructure

1026
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 18: on tomorrow as well, I think, and I've got support

1027
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Speaker 18: and Rex. So yeah, all of my portfolios, I'm front

1028
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Speaker 18: All ministers will be appearing over the course of the week,

1029
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Speaker 18: so for varying lengths of time. I know Nicola Wallis

1030
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Speaker 18: is up for three hours. I think it's on Wednesday

1031
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 18: morning to the on the Finance Committee, other other sort

1032
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 18: of slightly lesser Well, every ministry is important, but you know,

1033
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Speaker 18: not ever gonna pay for not ever gonna pay for

1034
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Speaker 18: three hours.

1035
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 3: So I'm going to get you all those loser ministers.

1036
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 3: What you're saying, all those all those all those male

1037
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Speaker 3: contents in the background haven't said that.

1038
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 18: Well, Well, I'm on I'm on sport for half an hour.

1039
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Speaker 18: For example, there's a bit different definance.

1040
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 3: Okay, what what what is it political? I mean, what's

1041
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 3: stopping it just being a you know, a bonfight.

1042
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 18: Well that'll be over to the opposition. I mean they'll

1043
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 18: be asking the bulk of the questions, so we'll front

1044
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 18: up and we'll you know, they've asked some some preliminary

1045
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 18: questions in advance, but the actual hearings themselves are over

1046
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 18: to the opposition to make make of them what they will.

1047
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 18: They can be very political.

1048
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 9: My own experience from.

1049
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Speaker 18: Having been in oppositions, when you get really political, it

1050
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 18: doesn't work. It's actually about getting into the numbers. You

1051
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 18: know what, what is what is the government trying to

1052
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 18: get from parliament to do it? To run government? What

1053
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 18: are the programs that you are you are funding? What

1054
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 18: are the programs that you are cutting? Because this government

1055
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 18: of course has made a lot of fiscal savings, so

1056
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 18: that will be part of it. And what are you

1057
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 18: trying to achieve with the money that you were seeking

1058
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 18: from parliament? So it should be about that now, as

1059
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 18: you know, Mike, polities, in politics it's not always about that.

1060
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 3: No, that is true. Will it be televised because a

1061
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 3: loser like me loves a good question time and I'd

1062
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Speaker 3: be into this.

1063
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 18: I think of the all of the select minies have

1064
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 18: got Facebook feeds and I'm pretty sure they still lives

1065
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 18: threaving most of the hearings, so they'll be on Facebook.

1066
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Speaker 18: And I'm not sure about Parliament TV, but they'll definitely

1067
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Speaker 18: be on Facebook.

1068
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Speaker 3: I think, Okay, let me grab you while you as

1069
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 3: infrastructure and it's these PPPs you were talking about with

1070
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 3: local government last week? Is there a disconnect with people

1071
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 3: understanding what you're trying to do. You're looking at building

1072
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 3: stuff and using other mechanisms as opposed to just the

1073
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Speaker 3: taxpayer or the ratepayer.

1074
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Speaker 19: Right?

1075
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Speaker 3: Are people up against this?

1076
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 9: Oh?

1077
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Speaker 18: Look, that's exactly what we're trying to do.

1078
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Speaker 9: And you know, I look at it like this.

1079
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Speaker 18: If we can get a situation where we build some

1080
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Speaker 18: toll roads in this country and the super Fund all

1081
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Speaker 18: the key. We say the fund helps fund the toll roads.

1082
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Speaker 18: How good would it be when people drive down one

1083
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Speaker 18: on one of the toll roads and they pay five

1084
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Speaker 18: bucks or whatever, knowing that they're helping to say for

1085
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Speaker 18: their retirement. I just think we need to be open

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Speaker 18: to these sort of prospects. We need to be open

1087
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Speaker 18: to foreign capital. We need to be opened to the

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00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 18: super fun and we need to be opened to tile road.

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00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 18: We just need to get on and build some stuff

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00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 18: in this country and PPPs are away to do it.

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00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 7: Well.

1092
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 3: I was just watching Kereen macinnulty saying, oh, they're leaving

1093
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 3: it all to the councils and stuff. So that's not

1094
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 3: the case, is it?

1095
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 8: Well not at all.

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Speaker 18: I mean, this government's been more money on infrastructure than

1097
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Speaker 18: any government needs on history, so we're really stepping up.

1098
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 18: What we're saying is we just need to use new

1099
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 18: we need to use new tools. The Labor Party had

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00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 18: a complete aversion to private capital. They've never wanted to

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00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 18: use private capital for anything. We're very open to that

1102
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 18: prospect because we've got an infrastructure deficit.

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00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 9: We need to solve it.

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00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 3: Exactly the other thing, there's fast track. So last week

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00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 3: I'm reading about Eden Park. They are in front of

1106
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 3: the Select Committee and they were saying, well, with the

1107
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 3: fast track, we can, yes, still talk to locals, but

1108
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 3: we can move on and get more you know, concerts,

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00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 3: et cetera into an eden Park. Then I note over

1110
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 3: the weekend of the insurers are saying, well, you can

1111
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 3: build better resilience for natural disasters because you can make

1112
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 3: it to happen quicker. That's a good side of fast Track.

1113
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 3: Why has fast Track got so many negative headlines?

1114
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 18: Oh, I think look, hate's going to hate, as you know,

1115
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 18: Mike end this game. There's a few sort of professional

1116
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 18: professionally negative about everything. And like I just think this

1117
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 18: country's got economic troubles. We've worried about our place in

1118
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 18: the world. We've got a country that needs to grow

1119
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 18: for the first time in a while, and fast Track

1120
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 18: has a way to do it and we'll be pushing

1121
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 18: ahead with it. I opened the sensible changes, but you

1122
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 18: know we've got a lot of work to do in

1123
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 18: this country to get it back on track.

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00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 3: Appreciate your time, Chris Bishop, who's the Infrastructure Minister, Leader

1125
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 3: of the House and of course part of the first

1126
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 3: of a strategy week sixteen away from eight Oscar. Other

1127
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 3: thing they did that didn't get enough coverage over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: I think they had a reasonable week in terms of

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00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 3: the farmers and the etes and stuff. They also went

1130
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 3: in with the forestry. They canceled the payment and other

1131
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 3: review of forestry's role in the omissions trading scheme. Owners

1132
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 3: complaining that its successive cost is too expensive, et cetera,

1133
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 3: et cetera. So they've taking the charge off for the

1134
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 3: forests for twenty three twenty four. It amounts to thirty

1135
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 3: dollars twenty five per hectare, so the government wants to

1136
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 3: rebuild confidence and forestry. There's more than five hundred and

1137
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 3: ninety thousand hectares of forest land in the ETS and

1138
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,399
Speaker 3: around forty two hundred forestry participants, so that particular charge

1139
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 3: is gone. So they had a good ETES week last

1140
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Speaker 3: week seven forty.

1141
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 1: Five one make costing breakfast.

1142
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 3: So from eight seventeen pages, I've got got the complete

1143
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 3: list of scrutiny week. Here they seem to have morning,

1144
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 3: afternoon tea and lunch, which disturbs me.

1145
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 12: No.

1146
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 3: And so Minister for Building Construction Chris Pink is due

1147
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 3: in front of the Transport Infrastructure estimates for Boating, Building

1148
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 3: and Construction from nine thirty to ten fifteen. But then

1149
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 3: there's a gap to ten thirty, so that's morning tea

1150
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 3: if ever I saw one, then Ministry of Business Innovation

1151
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 3: Employment ten thirty through twelve thirty. Then there's a gap

1152
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 3: toal one thirty, so that's lunch a lot of lunch,

1153
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 3: a lot of morning tea, lot of afternoon tea. Michael Hill,

1154
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 3: this is tied up with very good peace over the

1155
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 3: weekend if you want to look it up on Australia dovetails.

1156
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 3: What I was trying to say last week this obsession

1157
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 3: we have with Australia at the moment, Australia's wonderful country.

1158
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 3: I was watching the supercars even in Darwin looked nice,

1159
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 3: was clear blue sky, it was thirty two degrees. I

1160
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 3: mean I wouldn't go to Darwin, but I mean from

1161
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 3: an air, you know, racetrack can't look kind of cool anyway.

1162
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 3: So very good piece over the weekend about what's wrong

1163
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 3: with Australia and you know, stop sort of glorifying it anyway.

1164
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 3: Michael Hill announce over the weekend that Fakatani stores closing.

1165
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 3: So I thought we had this under control. We don't

1166
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 3: shop on the strand. Too many incidents. Closes twenty nine

1167
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 3: June for good, done dusted. Did they have security? You

1168
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 3: bet they did, Security aids, fog cannons, security cameras, alarm screamers,

1169
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 3: personal alarms. Storers experienced a heightened number of breaking and enterings, smashing, grabs,

1170
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 3: several of which occurred during daylight hours, sad day for

1171
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 3: the business. They're done, dusted over, finished, so we haven't

1172
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 3: solved that particular problem with the crime and police. There

1173
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,479
Speaker 3: are hidden costs to moving with Australia and reading stop

1174
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 3: romanticizing Australia. This is a Sydney based Keywiek comedian called

1175
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 3: Jake Howie. Australia's pretty cooked right now. Try your luck

1176
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 3: if you feel like a change of scenery. But Key,

1177
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 3: we seem to localize deeply global issues rather than understand

1178
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 3: that New Zealand is experiencing issues seen around the world.

1179
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 3: That's a very very good point. Maybe you'll get paid more,

1180
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 3: maybe you won't. Maybe some things are cheaper, maybe they're not,

1181
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 3: which is what I was trying to say last week.

1182
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 3: I think if you get into a mindset that this

1183
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 3: place is crap and you're going elsewhere, you'll do your

1184
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 3: best to make elsewhere look good. And it's easy to

1185
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 3: travel over. He goes, ah Man, I've been in New Yorker.

1186
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 3: It's just incredible. I don't think it's all real, but

1187
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 3: look that up and read it's well worth it.

1188
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 15: Ten to wit the make Hosking breakfast with Bailey's real estate.

1189
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 15: Hu's talk said, giving away from it. So what a

1190
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Speaker 15: fantastically uplifting site. The return to public life of the

1191
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Speaker 15: Princess of Wales was yesterday, wasn't it? Back for the

1192
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 15: trooping of the Color, alongside her husband of father in law,

1193
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,439
Speaker 15: the kids with their royal editor of the Daily Mail,

1194
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,399
Speaker 15: Russell Myers, is with us on this, Russell, very.

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Speaker 3: Good morning to you.

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Speaker 19: Good morning mate.

1197
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 3: I mean I'm a super fan, but I mean she

1198
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 3: looked fantastic, The family looked fantastic. It was just the

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Speaker 3: whole thing was just magnificent, wasn't it when it was?

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00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 19: And you know, went off without a hitch And I think,

1201
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,280
Speaker 19: you know, good scenes compared to what we were expecting,

1202
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 19: or you know, thinking about what we would expect just

1203
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 19: a few weeks ago. Of course, the King and the

1204
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 19: Princess of Wales at a pretty tumultuous time of it

1205
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 19: over the last few weeks and months, both being diagnosed

1206
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 19: with cancer in February and having their treatment every week

1207
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 19: since then, so we didn't know whether we were going

1208
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 19: to see the King, and then of course the Princess

1209
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 19: of Wales has been out of duty since Christmas. And

1210
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 19: we haven't seen at all, but you know, fantastic scenes

1211
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 19: on the balcony, the kids, you know, lighting up the

1212
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 19: event as well, and you know, went off without the

1213
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 19: hitch was great.

1214
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 3: The I'm sure you've seen the photo. There was a

1215
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 3: photo on the balcony who eyes met his his eyes?

1216
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 3: But that photo was just gold, wasn't it told you

1217
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 3: a million things?

1218
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 12: Well it did.

1219
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 19: I mean, you know, a lot of people had we

1220
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 19: had this sort of crazy speculation when Kate was unwell,

1221
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 19: and then of course she had to come out and

1222
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 19: tell the world that she'd had been suffering this sort

1223
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 19: of cancer diagnosis in the background, and all the weight

1224
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 19: of expectation on her about when she was going to

1225
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 19: be seen again. And certainly, you know, I just broke

1226
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 19: a story about the people allegedly accessing her private medical data.

1227
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 19: It's been a real, real tough time for her. But

1228
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 19: she looked fantastic. She said herself just the day before

1229
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 19: that there've been good days and bad days, and she

1230
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 19: was hoping to try and get back to some sort

1231
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 19: of normality over the next few weeks and you know,

1232
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 19: returning to work at home and trying to do things

1233
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 19: over the summer. But certainly, her family and especially her

1234
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 19: husband have been a great, great source of.

1235
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 3: Comfort, and we've seen that beautiful Father's Day photo today

1236
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 3: as well. Do we have any actual official comment on

1237
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 3: what we expect moving forward for her for the rest

1238
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 3: of the year or not.

1239
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 19: Well, certainly, well, you know, people are spoken to it

1240
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 19: at the palace have said, listen, this is a very

1241
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 19: tentative time. She needs the time to rest and recuperate.

1242
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 19: That we can't make assumptions of how she's going to

1243
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 19: be feeling from one week or the next. But she

1244
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 19: did say in a very moving statement just the day

1245
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 19: before trooping, this statement that she delivered on Friday, saying

1246
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 19: that she was enjoying getting back to some sort of

1247
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 19: normality that's very important for cancer patients. She said that

1248
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 19: she's going to try and get to some engagement in

1249
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 19: the summer. We don't know what they're going to look

1250
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 19: like at the moment, but I imagine they'll take the

1251
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 19: vein of her main projects, the early years developed and

1252
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 19: the mental health.

1253
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 12: Products that she's so involved in.

1254
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 19: And I think, as I said, baby steps for now

1255
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 19: a very tentative time, but hopefully we're going to see

1256
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 19: her before too long.

1257
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 3: Look all right, Russell, catch up with you, so I

1258
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 3: appreciate it very much. Russell Myers, who's royal editor for

1259
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 3: the Daily Mail. This British press are running some behind

1260
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 3: the scenes video. The place have put out some behind

1261
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 3: the scenes video if you're interested in that of her

1262
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 3: and the kids, which is lovely to look at. If

1263
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 3: you haven't seen the Father's Day photo that she took

1264
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 3: of William n three kids, that's superb as well. As

1265
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 3: far as I know, no one's accusing her of doctoring

1266
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 3: anything on that this morning, so that's gone legitimately. Good

1267
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 3: luck to a God bless her. But just a wonderful,

1268
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 3: wonderful weekend for the royal family. Mike, in a positive note,

1269
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 3: we went and saw Mel Parson Saturday night after you

1270
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 3: interviewed her a month or so ago. Oh my god,

1271
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 3: what a talent she is. And Meil Parsons well worth

1272
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 3: looking up. If you don't know the name, listen to

1273
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 3: the interview too. That was quite good. Andrew savile guy

1274
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 3: Hevelt the golfers on. I'm sure that guys glued to

1275
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 3: that as we speak. But we need to deal with

1276
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 3: the Warriors and the black Caps and other sporting matters.

1277
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 3: Will do that in the commentary box after the news

1278
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 3: which is next?

1279
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: What big news?

1280
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 2: Bold opinions the Mic Hosking breakfast with Bailey's real estate

1281
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 2: altogether better across residential, commercial and rural.

1282
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: On News Talks ed ber sprung Rum.

1283
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 12: The Blues beat the Brombies as hunch the second.

1284
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 3: To the Super Rugby Pacific.

1285
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 20: Grand Final into Eden Park where I'll face the Blues

1286
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 20: next week. The Chiefs have won the second Timmy Final

1287
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 20: at Wellington, beating the Hurricanes py thirty points to nineteen.

1288
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 21: That will be one of the best ones for them

1289
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 21: this season to come over and upset.

1290
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 3: The Warriors preserve this outstanding winning record they have against

1291
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:22,919
Speaker 3: this New Zealand based team.

1292
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 20: The Storm win by thirty eight points to twenty four.

1293
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 3: That will do it for the first time.

1294
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 21: They were still blown by Danielle Orsato and it is

1295
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 21: advantage England had the break courtesy of that man there,

1296
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 21: Jude Bellingham, wonderful player Superheader.

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Speaker 13: The Monday Morning commentary barks on the Mike Husking Breakfast.

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Speaker 3: Minutes past eight and Guy have Eld's with us, along

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Speaker 3: with Andrew sevil Felder's good morning to you, Morning Mine

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Speaker 3: enjoying the golf game.

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Speaker 16: I am very much enjoying the golf. I think Seven

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Speaker 16: and I were talking about this yesterday or maybe Michael

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Speaker 16: and I at work, and this is the best type

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Speaker 16: of golf to watch. When the best players in the

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Speaker 16: world are finding it so difficult and they have to

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Speaker 16: use all their shots that they have to just get

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Speaker 16: any birdie that they can. I'm really enjoying it. Mccelroy.

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Speaker 16: I hope mclroy wins. It's been a decade since he was.

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Speaker 16: Can you believe that? Well, he's only two behind and

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Speaker 16: Bryson is in a bit of trouble on the eighth hole,

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Speaker 16: but Bryson has produced some incredible shots over the last

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Speaker 16: two days when he's been in trouble, so it's unlikely.

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Speaker 16: I would say that McElroy is to win, but he's

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Speaker 16: by no means out of it.

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Speaker 3: Do you soak your balls and epsom salts?

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Speaker 4: What a.

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Speaker 16: Strange but also fascinating guy. Bryson to Shamba is if

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Speaker 16: you haven't heard yet, he puts his balls and its

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Speaker 16: and salts to check where the heavy side of the

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Speaker 16: ball is. He reckons that in a cylindrical object, you're

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Speaker 16: not gonna to get complete balance all the way through

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Speaker 16: so he puts them in its and salts to find

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Speaker 16: out where the heavy part of the ball is and

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Speaker 16: he reckons. That's like finding out where the mud is

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Speaker 16: on the ball. So if it's I think if it's heavier,

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Speaker 16: it goes that way, and he thinks that that's something

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Speaker 16: to do.

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Speaker 3: I'm surprised. I'm surprised. That's not against the rules in

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Speaker 3: some way, shape or form.

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Speaker 16: Everything that he does is within the rules. But everything

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Speaker 16: that he does no one else does. He's got every

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Speaker 16: club is the same length. You know, most most shorter

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Speaker 16: irons are a bit shorter than the longer irons, obviously.

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Speaker 3: So you're telling me nine is nine irons the same

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Speaker 3: length of his three iron Yep, wacky, yep.

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Speaker 16: They're all exactly the same length.

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Speaker 12: Why doesn't he win every week?

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Speaker 3: Well, because that's in the head that's in the headset,

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Speaker 3: which is what I want to talk to you about.

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Speaker 3: Because I'm watching the NHL yesterday and I'm not watching

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Speaker 3: a lot of NHL. But the Stanley Cups on Florida

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Speaker 3: the Edmonton, right, so Florida's up three nil. Same in

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Speaker 3: the NBA. If you look at the NBA Dallas v. Boston,

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Speaker 3: Boston's up three nil, Suddenly Dallas win. Not only do

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Speaker 3: they win when they have to, they blow them out,

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Speaker 3: They destroy them, not only.

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Speaker 12: Over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they destroy them. So that's the psychology of sport,

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Speaker 3: isn't it your thrash three nil? You're going to lose

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Speaker 3: in the best of seven, yet all of a sudden bang,

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Speaker 3: you're so superior to that.

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Speaker 12: Explain that, yep, yep.

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Speaker 7: Oh.

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Speaker 12: So much of sport of pat level is in the head.

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Speaker 12: With the football code, you see it with individual sporting

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Speaker 12: competitors all across the board. So much of it is

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Speaker 12: in the head, which leads us, I think to maybe

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Speaker 12: the worry is if not the Super Rugby which is

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Speaker 12: going to have a fitting finale next Saturday night at

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Speaker 12: Eden Park.

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Speaker 3: Well it I saw the drone shot of Eden Park.

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Speaker 3: I could count the number of people there.

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Speaker 12: Said, look that was the Blues, Brumbies and the Aussie

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Speaker 12: teams just not attract fans here. And it was a

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Speaker 12: Friday night in Orcand.

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Speaker 3: Was it a Friday night? Is a Friday?

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Speaker 9: Look?

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Speaker 3: I was doing to all and earlier on this morning.

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Speaker 3: Here's the things full crowd, go go to Buffalo, go

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Speaker 3: to Chicago, go to Boston, go to New York, go

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Speaker 3: anywhere you want. In the middle of winter where it's

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Speaker 3: minus white five hundred and fifty seven, it's sold out.

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Speaker 3: This weather slash, it's on the TV slash. It's a

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Speaker 3: bit tiring, slash I want to go to Costco doesn't count.

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Speaker 3: They actually turn out because they love their sport. One's issues.

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Speaker 12: What's the answer.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm just saying rugby. Maybe it's boring.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's to make it.

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Speaker 3: Somebody text me said too expense, So I don't know.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I meant, well, there's a there's a lot of

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Speaker 12: issues going on, but you'd imagine for the final this weekend,

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Speaker 12: Eden Parks should sell out. If they don't sell it out,

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Speaker 12: there's a major, major issue. It's it's Auckland v Hamilton

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Speaker 12: Blues versus Will that.

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Speaker 3: Be mainly Hamiltonians though, I mean it doesn't really matter

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Speaker 3: how they sold well.

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Speaker 12: There'll be a lot of Whitecatto supported and from the

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Speaker 12: surrounds of the Chiefs area, I'm sure.

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Speaker 3: I reckon the Chiefs can boil. I reckon the Chief's

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Speaker 3: going to win.

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Speaker 12: I think the Chiefs can do it. The Blues, very

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Speaker 12: very good team, are hard to beat at high they

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Speaker 12: haven't lost a home for ever but or for a

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Speaker 12: long time. But the Chiefs have been building and building,

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Speaker 12: picking at the right time, standing players. I thought that

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Speaker 12: performance on Saturday night or Saturday afternoon and Wellington was

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Speaker 12: simply superb. Hopefully the game isn't ruined by the officiating,

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Speaker 12: look right, for Union is just becoming so bloom and

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Speaker 12: hard to officiate. I understand that, but you're getting You're

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Speaker 12: seeing yellow cards that aren't yellow cards. You're seeing tackles

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01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 12: that should garner a yellow card, and I'm not It's

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Speaker 12: just all over the show.

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Speaker 3: Still all right, brief break more at a moment Andrew

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Speaker 3: cevill guy have helped thirteen past eight, The mic Hosking

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Speaker 3: Breakfast talks me fifteen past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Monday Morning Commentary barks on the mic Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 3: One shot guy, what did I just tell you?

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Speaker 16: One shot? And Bryson's got a fairly long par part

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Speaker 16: as well, so it could be all square at the top,

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Speaker 16: and that's exactly what happens at this course.

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Speaker 3: You'd have sympathy with us. Have too expensive to go

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Speaker 3: to the Rugby cost me thirty bucks per two cans

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Speaker 3: of beer and a pie, So for you save, there'll

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Speaker 3: be six can three pis ninety dollars. That's a big

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Speaker 3: night outn't it.

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Speaker 12: Look Yeah, Look, there's a number of reasons, Mike. You know,

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Speaker 12: people don't have the same amount of cash to throw

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Speaker 12: around these days, i'd imagine. But as I say, it's

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Speaker 12: a big, big final. If you're going to go to

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Speaker 12: one game of rugby this year.

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Speaker 3: One, yeah, and you got you've got to Arguably, I

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Speaker 3: suppose the Hurricanes will be arguing, but you've got the

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Speaker 3: two best sides in the competition, which brings us, unfortunately

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Speaker 3: guy to the Warriors. And so the Warriors start, well,

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Speaker 3: this is all good. I fully expect Melbourne to come

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Speaker 3: back because they're a quality side. But what I don't

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Speaker 3: expect if you're a decent Warrior's side who stand a

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Speaker 3: realistic chance of getting right to the point of end

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Speaker 3: of the competition, is you get blown away by it.

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Speaker 3: And that's that's the problem. Making it a fight is

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Speaker 3: nothing wrong with a fight, but getting thrashed that way

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Speaker 3: is not acceptable.

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Speaker 16: It was the same problem that we saw in that

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Speaker 16: four or whatever game Rus it was when they lost

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Speaker 16: however many games in a row. Discipline was terrible, defense,

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Speaker 16: wasn't great. They didn't seem to have the right options

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01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 16: or execution on attack, and they had two guys binned,

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Speaker 16: and there were some inconsistency I think in those biddings.

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Speaker 16: I think those two for the Warriors were deserved, but

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Speaker 16: I think the Storm deserved some. That is not why

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Speaker 16: they lost. They lost because they went away from what

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Speaker 16: they've been doing very well in the last few weeks

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01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 16: to get them back into the competition, and that's a

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01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 16: massively missed opportunity because that was a chance where they

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01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 16: could finally a beat the Storm after however long it's

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Speaker 16: been and b get themselves pretty much into the top

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01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 16: four of the RL. Now they're still in that little

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01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 16: log jam of a lot of teams that are kind

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Speaker 16: of vine for the back half of the eight.

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Speaker 3: And they still worry me Andrew that as good as

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01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 3: they look against the Panthers or the Dolphins or whatever,

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01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 3: you still know that if things don't go right, it's

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01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 3: still possibly Melbourne. If you're a Melbourne fan, you going

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01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 3: to win. If you're a Dolphins fan, you're going to win,

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01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. We're just not that confident yet.

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Speaker 12: There'll be the there'll be the odd big win. Yep, Yeah, yeah,

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01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 12: I understand totally. But isn't that why people have continued

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01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 12: to watch the Worries over twenty five years, Mike, because

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01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 12: they Yeah, it's the possibility for a couple of weeks,

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01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:18,719
Speaker 12: then they lose, Then they win a game they shouldn't,

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01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 12: Then they lose a game they should win. Yeah, that's

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01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 12: I think that's part of the reason. Yeah, the one

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01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 12: keeps coming back.

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Speaker 3: We're going to lose the Lesniec though, because that was

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01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 3: reasonably indisputable. Close for a week, close people is not

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Speaker 3: acceptable anymore, is it.

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Speaker 16: But then you can't take players out in the year either,

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Speaker 16: And that's what the Storm did, was it? I you

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01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 16: can't remember, but Montoya whoever it was, But that wasn't

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Speaker 16: even And then the way the egan won that wasn't

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Speaker 16: even penalized. I don't think, or it was certainly.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't always been shocking. I think they I don't think

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01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 3: they pay them well enough, or train them well enough

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01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 3: or something. I don't know what it is, but the

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Speaker 3: referring and league has always been problematic, especially the.

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Speaker 12: Same You've given you full of theories too, Michael. So

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01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 12: the Worries sell out pretty much every home Direct. They're

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01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 12: not winning the competition, they're not winning every game, but

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01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 12: they can.

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Speaker 11: What is it.

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01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 3: It's the magic, it's the belief, it's the belief system.

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01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 3: It's the quality of the game. It's the pace of

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01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 3: the sport, it's the sense of community. To be fair,

1484
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 3: it's only twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven.

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01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 12: Thou get that there in one country. Yeah, but I

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01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:25,639
Speaker 12: think they were going to do a very good job

1487
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 12: in marketing. I think they also do a very good

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01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:29,640
Speaker 12: job and talking about their game and talking it up.

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Speaker 3: Yep. Also, sorry to interrupt guy before I lose my

1490
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 3: train of thought. So we ring last week. We ring

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01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 3: the Blues to do an interview on the show Friday, right,

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01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 3: biggest radio program in the country. Blues don't want to

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01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 3: turn up. We ring the Chiefs, biggest radio program in

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01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 3: the country. The Chiefs don't want to talk, so we

1495
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 3: get the Hurricanes guy on. At the end of the day.

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01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 3: That's the sort of cockiness or arrogance that's doing damage

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01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 3: to the game. Now, I personally couldn't give a monkeys

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01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 3: you don't want to turn up, I don't care, but

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01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:56,640
Speaker 3: do yourself a favor if you don't want to talk

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Speaker 3: about your game. I can ring Cameron George now and

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01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 3: I have them on in tw the minutes, no problems

1502
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 3: at all, or a Warriors player or Webster or anyone

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01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 3: you want. And that's the difference. Same with the car

1504
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 3: racing people.

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01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'll chat to them. I'll have a chat to them.

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01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 3: I want to have a chat with them. I'm just saying,

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01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 3: if you can't work that out for yourself, don't become

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01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 3: whining to me.

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Speaker 16: But also, as I just said before before you cut

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Speaker 16: me off, which was fair.

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01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 3: Sorry sorry guy, No, no, no, no, that's fine. I

1512
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 3: just better be good, by the way, because I interrupted

1513
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:25,640
Speaker 3: a flow for this.

1514
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 9: So here we go.

1515
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 3: Here's a guy who helt. Ladies and gentlemen.

1516
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 16: You could get a ticket for ten dollars to the

1517
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 16: Warriors against the Storm, the best team in the competition

1518
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 16: or one of the best teams in the competition. You

1519
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 16: could get a ticket in the south stand. Granted so

1520
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 16: not the best stand, but for ten bucks that's pretty

1521
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 16: good money.

1522
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 3: Good point, very good point. It's worth holding on to. Actually,

1523
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 3: you're following the euros sev I mean, you guys are running.

1524
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:50,560
Speaker 12: It as I'm watching it, as you speak to me.

1525
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 12: Actually stood out England up one over Servia love it.

1526
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 3: A full one mill after how long.

1527
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Speaker 12: Sixty minutes?

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01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, sixty minutes for a single goal. Terrific. Lot of action,

1529
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 3: make a lot of action, stuff that could.

1530
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 16: Have happened back and forward made that part as well, Mike,

1531
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 16: who did got the part? Who did Bryighton?

1532
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 3: De Shambo saved Para or Birdie par So? It's still

1533
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 3: one off? Yeah, fantastic call it now?

1534
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:18,600
Speaker 9: You know what?

1535
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 17: Do you know what?

1536
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 12: Rory soaks his balls and going good?

1537
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 3: Good question, Sef? What are you referring to their sef?

1538
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, the goal for.

1539
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 12: Maybe a pint of guinness. So I'm not too sure.

1540
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 12: Northern irishman is he is?

1541
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 3: He carries away? He's he's built. Now have you noticed Rory?

1542
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 16: He's not as built as as de Chambo?

1543
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 3: Shambo is on steroids. I think I can call that

1544
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 3: quite you know, I think I think that'll come out

1545
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 3: of a later point, won't it. I'm joking.

1546
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 16: I'm not involved in this conversation, but you know what

1547
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 16: I'm saying.

1548
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 3: Shambo looks abnormal. Actually, if you want to see a

1549
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 3: photo of a weird person who's too old to be

1550
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 3: doing what he's doing, have a look at the photo

1551
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 3: of Gordon Ramsey and his cycling top.

1552
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 12: I saw that bruising and the bruising shock.

1553
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 3: You know, shocking, shocking accident. But he's one of those

1554
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 3: guys who puffs his chest out in a photo in

1555
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:12,600
Speaker 3: a way that really he shouldn't anymore because he's not

1556
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 3: quite built the way he used to be.

1557
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 12: But when you went you, when you went through your

1558
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 12: exercisal phase, I'm still still didn't you like a little

1559
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:23,600
Speaker 12: I'm still in it.

1560
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 3: I'm still in the phase. I was in Istanbul over

1561
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 3: the weekend. Have you ever done it? Have you ever

1562
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 3: done a tabata workout? Sev. I mean it's obviously looking

1563
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 3: at you you haven't. But I'm just as in theory.

1564
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 12: It's like the body Crusher of workouts, the one code.

1565
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 3: The one I did one of those through Istanbul.

1566
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 16: So don't you you know, exercises, the body body crusher

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01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 16: exercises stopped Andrew.

1568
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 12: Clearly, I think my subscription ran out. Guy costs a living.

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Speaker 3: See you guys next week. Andrew sevil Goo.

1570
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Speaker 1: Called the mic costume Breakfast with Alfeeder News torn st B.

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Speaker 3: Now, lately you might have heard people talking about the

1572
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Speaker 3: DVS difference and wondered what that's all about. Well, the

1573
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Speaker 3: truth is, the DVS difference is a lot of things.

1574
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Speaker 3: It's continuous ventilation in every room of your home, filtered

1575
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Speaker 3: fresh air in, stale air out. It's a preventative measure

1576
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Speaker 3: against mold, milled view and windows, crying condensation that contains

1577
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Speaker 3: your expensive carpets or curtains or furniture. It's being able

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Speaker 3: to enjoy a dryer, healthy home all kinds of weather

1579
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Speaker 3: and all kinds of locations up and down the country.

1580
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Speaker 3: So you can say yes to the people who know

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Speaker 3: the ventilation best, and that is, of course d VS.

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Speaker 3: They've been at the top of their game for almost

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Speaker 3: thirty years. They're the experts. They're trusted. It's why thousands

1584
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Speaker 3: of homeowners like you already experiencing the DVS brilliance the

1585
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Speaker 3: DVS difference. You should too. And if you're planning to

1586
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Speaker 3: buy a build a new home, by the way, DVS

1587
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 3: is the perfect solution there as well, So talk to

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Speaker 3: your builder about all of that. It's all there and

1589
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Speaker 3: all the details at DBS dot co dot nz. That's

1590
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Speaker 3: DVS dot co dot in z pasking Mike Sebbs more

1591
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 3: into Jubata than Tabarta. That's very good, good, quite good.

1592
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 3: There's a poll out this morning. Dutton has edged Albanezi

1593
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 3: and Murray Olds used to say Dutton's unelectable. The poles

1594
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 3: would indicate something slightly different. He's on to a couple

1595
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 3: of issues and Elbow is making a meal of it.

1596
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:24,680
Speaker 3: But we'll get you the numbers very shortly. When we

1597
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:26,680
Speaker 3: crossed the Tasman and talk to Steve Price after the

1598
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 3: news which is next he Redews talks.

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Speaker 2: EDB your trusted source for news and fuse the Mike

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Speaker 2: Hosking Breakfast with a Vida Live the Age you Feel

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Speaker 2: News talks.

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Speaker 3: EDB Morning Mike. Sporting highlight of the weekend for me.

1603
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:46,600
Speaker 3: Francesco Molinari hold in one to make the cup for

1604
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 3: the US over. I thought about I saw it and

1605
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 3: I just thought, is making the cut good enough? I

1606
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:53,719
Speaker 3: suppose you hang around for the weekend of the paypack

1607
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 3: it goes up. I would have just taken the hole

1608
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:57,560
Speaker 3: in one personally, Morning Mike. When your next talk to

1609
01:14:57,600 --> 01:14:59,640
Speaker 3: the Prime Minister, ask him to hold a referendum for

1610
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 3: a new plane, Karl, I reckon if we held a

1611
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 3: refereement on a plane. Despite all the Fassan there is

1612
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 3: around the subject. This morning, I reckon it had come

1613
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 3: out sixty five to thirty five against I don't think

1614
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 3: people are buying to it. Twenty three minutes away from.

1615
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 13: Nine international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

1616
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 13: mind for New Zealand business.

1617
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:21,680
Speaker 3: That's the definite price money to you. Good day there now.

1618
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 3: I can't remember who I was. This one of the

1619
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 3: big looking around for at the banks or somebody's not

1620
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 3: going to buy carbon credits anymore and they're going to

1621
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 3: invest directly in green energy and they're going to save

1622
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 3: the planet that way. How big a deal is this

1623
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 3: whole green energy debate there?

1624
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 9: That's huge.

1625
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 8: I think the next election, which has to be held

1626
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 8: within a year, is going to be fought over two things,

1627
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 8: cost of living in the climate wars, and then fretted

1628
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 8: up AND's reignited them. I know we're going to speak

1629
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,799
Speaker 8: in a moment about a poll where his popularity continues

1630
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 8: to go up. He's pushing for nuclear Anthony Albanez. He

1631
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 8: said nuclears are good, too expensive, takes too long. But

1632
01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 8: we've now got a bunch of green energy developers. This

1633
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 8: is the Clean Energy Investor Group, which says listen, you

1634
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:06,560
Speaker 8: know you're making it too hard for us. We're not

1635
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:09,599
Speaker 8: going to get anywhere near and Australia wants to get

1636
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 8: to by twenty thirty, eighty five percent of Australia's energy

1637
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 8: is renewable, and they say, you're just making it too hold.

1638
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 8: We're not going to get there. Eighty two percent by

1639
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 8: twenty thirty is impossible. It was a fairly tough reaction

1640
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 8: from this group to the government. They said the government's

1641
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 8: renewable energy targets would be challenging. Securing environmental approval is

1642
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 8: becoming increasingly hard and they're just not happy. They say

1643
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 8: it's particularly affecting wind backed projects where people in communities

1644
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 8: quite rightly objecting to the fact that they're going to

1645
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 8: wake up one morning and look out the window and

1646
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:49,519
Speaker 8: they won't see the sun come up because it'll be

1647
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:51,600
Speaker 8: hidden behind a whole bunch of wind turbines. There was

1648
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 8: a major project ticked off on the Illawarra, which is

1649
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:57,639
Speaker 8: south of Sydney, the other day, and so they're just saying,

1650
01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 8: unless you get on to local council, state governments and

1651
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 8: help help us get these permits quickly, you're never going

1652
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 8: to reach your target.

1653
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 3: It's Telstram dumping its carbon credit offset scheme, moving to

1654
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 3: direct investment model, setting a more ambitious target for emissions

1655
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 3: cuts by twenty three.

1656
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 9: They all do it.

1657
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. So tobacco or run by the gangs?

1658
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 7: Is it?

1659
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 9: Do you have very high taxes on tobacco huge?

1660
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 8: Well, what's happened here is that the taxes are so

1661
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 8: high the organized crime gangs, particularly outlaw motorcycle gangs, have

1662
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 8: realized that they can make a huge amount of money

1663
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:36,719
Speaker 8: out of this, and so they're now according to Admittedly

1664
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 8: this survey was done by Philip Morrissey American tobacco company,

1665
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 8: but they say crime gangs are selling a third of

1666
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 8: smoke products in Australia a third, so twenty eight point

1667
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 8: six percent of total product consumed last year, up from

1668
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 8: twenty three percent the year before. Industry figures say that

1669
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 8: the growth has probably pushed that number more likely up

1670
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 8: to thirty three percent now. The Philip morris paper states

1671
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 8: this would have pumped four point eighty five million in

1672
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 8: excise into the federal government. So the federal governmentor losing

1673
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 8: out as well. But I thought it was really interesting.

1674
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 8: The Bok who runs IgA independent supermarkets, Fred Harrison, he

1675
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 8: said last night, said the company's sales on tobacco products

1676
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 8: were declining by more than twenty percent every year, and

1677
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 8: he predicted there'd be no legal tobacco sector in Australia

1678
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 8: within five years.

1679
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 3: Wow, speaking of illegal these pill testing, where's that app sue?

1680
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 3: We the previous government, labor government here, they made it

1681
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:38,720
Speaker 3: legal to test for pills at festival. So do you

1682
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 3: do that state by state at your place?

1683
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 9: Yeah, we do.

1684
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 8: You know, I've got no regard for Dan Andrews, he

1685
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 8: was dead against it. But the new Premier, Jacinda Allen

1686
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 8: has been quoted in the past of saying, look, you

1687
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 8: know we all to do this. We are to make

1688
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 8: it legal. So we think a trial is probably going

1689
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 8: to be announced within if not this week, within the

1690
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 8: next couple of weeks. The Royal Australian College a GP,

1691
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:03,680
Speaker 8: they say, yep, we should be doing it. The association

1692
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 8: estimates would cost two million dollars a year to run

1693
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 8: the service. I'm not sure it's such a great idea

1694
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 8: because maybe it's just my age, but I just figure

1695
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 8: if you've got to tell people that you can legally

1696
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 8: bring a pill to them and test it and say

1697
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 8: it's okay, you just endorsing use of the bills.

1698
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 3: That's exactly right. This poll we've Dunton now the preferred

1699
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 3: prime minister, albeit by a very small margin. Have we

1700
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 3: got a sort of a roll on? Has he got

1701
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 3: a sort of a trend going?

1702
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 17: He does?

1703
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:33,600
Speaker 8: I think you speak of a result pol which is

1704
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 8: obviously in the nine newspapers today. A news poll last

1705
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:39,600
Speaker 8: week with you and I talked about wasn't all that

1706
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:42,720
Speaker 8: different to that. He's been out every day. I mean

1707
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 8: he's campaigning is if the election campaign has begun already.

1708
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 8: So worried is the government that Anthony Alberanez he started

1709
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 8: doing Daily Press company last week on two days. He

1710
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 8: did two a day, and so we've got a faux

1711
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 8: election campaign running right now. Nuclear is one thing, and

1712
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:02,600
Speaker 8: also the public have worken up to the fact that

1713
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:06,679
Speaker 8: the green energy programs that the federal government is trying

1714
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:08,600
Speaker 8: to get toward are not going to work, and so

1715
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,680
Speaker 8: they're worried about the lights staying on through winter and

1716
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 8: the heating staying on through winter. So he is on

1717
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:15,680
Speaker 8: a bit of a roll. It's a big ask for

1718
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:17,720
Speaker 8: him to win an election. He's got a lot of

1719
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 8: seats he'd have to pick up and he's got to

1720
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 8: knock over a lot of those tier independents. But he's

1721
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 8: doing everything right at the moment. We'll see how long

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Speaker 8: it lasts.

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Speaker 3: Mate, we'll catch up Wednesday. Appreciate it steve Price out

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Speaker 3: of Australia. So some of the specifics around it. Fifty

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Speaker 3: four percent said it was keeping the cost of living low.

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Speaker 3: That's the number one istion in Australia. Fifty four percent.

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Speaker 3: What would come in after that? Environment, well, that got seven,

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Speaker 3: healthcare that got seven, So fifty four it's cost of living,

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Speaker 3: cost of living, cost of living and cost of living.

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Speaker 3: Thirty eight percent said Dutton would be better at managing

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Speaker 3: immigration and refugees versus Albanesi's twenty one thirty eight versus

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Speaker 3: twenty one jobs in wages thirty two apiece. Better job

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Speaker 3: of keeping the cost of living low thirty two to Dutton,

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Speaker 3: twenty five to alban Easy. So we've got real problems

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Speaker 3: for alban Ezi preferred Prime minister of the numbers we

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Speaker 3: mentioned thirty six thirty five to Dutton. Now Albanezi thirty

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Speaker 3: six percent of voters think he's doing a good job.

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Speaker 3: Fifty don't, thirty six to fifty net performance rating of

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Speaker 3: minus fourteen. Dutton though has got positive two good job

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Speaker 3: forty percent, so positive too. So a roll is where

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Speaker 3: he wants to be. So the pressure then, of course,

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Speaker 3: is do we go before the end of the year

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Speaker 3: or hold out till next year? Sixteen to nine the

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Speaker 3: Myke hosting breakfast Stu Chambeau six under McElroy six under

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Speaker 3: there you go. She's exciting speaking of renewables as Steve

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Speaker 3: was a moment ago. Very good piece in the Telegraph,

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Speaker 3: as in the British Telegraph under the headline how Ja

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Speaker 3: Cinda A Durn left New Zealand on the brink of blackouts?

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Speaker 3: And the reason they mentioned that is the Sakiah Stamer

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Speaker 3: is standing by as part of his campaign, this time

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Speaker 3: run by a pledge to ban new drilling in the

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Speaker 3: North Sea, despite New Zealand abandoning a similar policy blackout figures.

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Speaker 3: And so they're writing about us and the cock up

1754
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 3: we made in banning oil and gas exploration our last

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Speaker 3: weekend's announcement. They write that the New Zealand's government was

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Speaker 3: lifting a ban on new oil and gas exploration. Ban

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Speaker 3: was announced by the former Prime Minister the descender turned

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Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, quote unquote, the world has moved on from

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Speaker 3: fossil fuels. Simply not true. New Zealand's trail blazing policy

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Speaker 3: at rights, which was the first of its kind, became

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Speaker 3: a key inspiration for the New Zealand Labour Party's own plan.

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Speaker 3: Followed three years of rising energy prices that have left

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Speaker 3: one hundred and ten thousand households unable to warm their homes,

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Speaker 3: nineteen percent of households struggling with the bills, and forty

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Speaker 3: thousand of them having their power cut off due to

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Speaker 3: unpaid bills. According to Consuming New Zealand, this is what

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Speaker 3: they're reading about us in Britain at the moment. Since April,

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Speaker 3: the situation's further deteriorated transpower, the equivalent of our national grid,

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Speaker 3: warned that the nation was at high risk of blackouts.

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Speaker 3: New zealand shift to renewables meant it no longer had

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Speaker 3: the generating power to keep the lights on during the

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Speaker 3: cold spells that mark the antipody in winter. Shaw Rush,

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Speaker 3: a leading New Zealand barrister specializing in petroleum licensing law

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Speaker 3: and climate litigation, called the oil and gas ban economic

1775
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 3: vandalism at its worst. In exchange for virtue signaling. At

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Speaker 3: its finest, Rush warned Labor off a copycat policy, saying

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Speaker 3: there will be no benefits to UK energy scrutiny or

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Speaker 3: security by banning new exploration drilling, you will simply disown

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Speaker 3: an industry in which the UK has been world leading.

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Speaker 3: So that's Starmer's policy. Not that it's going to make

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Speaker 3: any difference to the British election as far as I

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Speaker 3: can work out. But fore warned is forearmed. Now Tesla's,

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01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 3: there are so many unsold Tesla's. Just picture this. There

1784
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 3: are so many untssold Tesla's in America. You can see

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Speaker 3: them from space and now funny satellite images. They saw

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Speaker 3: them over the weekends. Forty seven thousand of them, all

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Speaker 3: parked up unsold. They made four hundred and thirty three

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01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 3: thousand of them, couldn't sell forty seven thousand of them

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Speaker 3: here Apparently our revenues falling twenty three percent this year.

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Speaker 3: You GOV in a poll found that Americans overall hate

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Speaker 3: Tesla's unless they own one. So when you own them,

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01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 3: you think it's quite cool. Far from that, you hate them.

1793
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 3: But then we come to and this is from a

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01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 3: US point of view, and every time I do car comparisons,

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01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 3: we do remind you that the markets are completely different.

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01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 3: New Zealand has an unusual market in the terms of

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Speaker 3: values of new cars and how they plummet based on

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01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 3: the fact that we've got these Japanese imports and that

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01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 3: sort of crashed the new car market over the years.

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Speaker 3: And this happened over many, many years places like Australia,

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01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 3: places like America, you buy a new car doesn't lose

1802
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 3: its value as sharply. But the latest information over the

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01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 3: weekend used EV's in our selling for thousands of dollars

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01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 3: less on average than comparable gas power cars. Difference between

1805
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:32,840
Speaker 3: the price that we used Tesla as model three in

1806
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 3: a BMW three series shows how a premium associated with

1807
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:39,639
Speaker 3: EV's and the initial boom's been erased. This is ic cars.

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01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 3: Back in February, used electric prices dipped below gas powered

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01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:47,719
Speaker 3: vehicle prices for the first time ever, and the pricing

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01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 3: cliff keeps getting steeper. Over the past year, gas power

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01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 3: used vehicle prices have declined. This is America, we remind

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Speaker 3: you again, have declined between three and seven percent evs.

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Speaker 3: It's thirty to thirty nine percent three to seven verses

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Speaker 3: thirty to thirty nine percent, and I suspect that'll only

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Speaker 3: get worse nine minutes away from nine the mic.

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Speaker 1: Hosting Breakfast with Jaguar, use Tom said.

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Speaker 3: the most beautiful cars in the history of motoring. They're

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Speaker 3: in mind, if you'd like to get your hands on

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Speaker 3: in other words, the brom Broum version, now is the

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Speaker 3: a third of the price, followed with two more equal

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Speaker 3: will be maintained through the retailer networks, superior servicing and

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Speaker 3: Dschambau birdied. So he's seven under, got a one shot

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Speaker 3: lead back. I should point out Dcembou, if you're only

1841
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 3: following this casually, is through ten, whereas McElroy's through eleven.

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01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 3: He's playing with Cantley who is five unders, so two

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Speaker 3: behind the leader, one behind McElroy. So I suppose technically

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Speaker 3: he's still in it through eleven. I guess there's some

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01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 3: room for movement there. By the way, the plane update

1846
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Speaker 3: on the plane, the Eve Air Force plane, those left behind,

1847
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 3: the business delegation of the media boarding the plane literally

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Speaker 3: as we speak, take off time was due four nine o'clock,

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Speaker 3: seven o'clock their time, and we don't know whether they'll

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Speaker 3: be flying low or slow or just a bit higher

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01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:58,880
Speaker 3: and slightly less slow, but anyway, they're heading towards Brusman,

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Speaker 3: at which point they'll be picked up the booty in

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01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 3: New Zealand plane allegedly to arrive in Japan tomorrow, unless,

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Speaker 3: of course, it all goes wrong. Five minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 1: Trending now Warehouse, the home of big brand skincare No.

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Speaker 3: Matt Damon's back. He's done nothing since Oppenheimer, which, when

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01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 3: you think about it, wasn't actually that long ago. This

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01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,680
Speaker 3: one is called the Instigators. A couple of guys who

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Speaker 3: think they can perform a simple crime to turn around

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Speaker 3: their problems.

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Speaker 9: Been Obar a week for mayor. It's going to be

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Speaker 9: holding our party on election eight.

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Speaker 1: There's going to be money there like none of your

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Speaker 1: bombs ever seen.

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Speaker 9: It's your first job.

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Speaker 1: I know what I'm doing.

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Speaker 5: We'll leave for a Christian.

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Speaker 1: Here's sixty good question. If I'm giving instructions and they're

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Speaker 1: not doing it, just say I have a gun.

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Speaker 3: I'll get down on the work.

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Speaker 1: I am up.

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Speaker 3: You're like six genius, I have a gun. You are

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Speaker 3: driving recklessly.

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Speaker 1: I'm then remember of the high speed projects.

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Speaker 3: Think about the person you wanted to be is not

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Speaker 3: a person.

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Speaker 1: Who am bere. You walk up with mege and they're

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Speaker 1: a psychiatrists.

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Speaker 3: Scott potential, hasn't it? Matt Damon, Casey Affleck not been

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01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:30,480
Speaker 3: been not doing much at the moment, been busy. Ben's

1881
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 3: got issues at home, so Casey's and Ron Pulman's there.

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Speaker 3: It's on Apple TV on the second of August. Serbia

1883
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:43,639
Speaker 3: lose one Neil to England. So that was a nice way, Toway.

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Speaker 3: If it's nineteen sixty six all over again, isn't it?

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Speaker 3: I working dream? Can't we? Anyway? That's us for Monday Morning.

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Speaker 3: Back tomorrow morning at six on the My Classing Breakfast

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Speaker 3: as always Happy Days.

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