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Speaker 2: Be Weding of Welcome Today. We're in Milwaukee for the

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Speaker 2: Republican Convention. The police had their pay deal sort of,

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Speaker 2: not that it wor the way they want and Darlingtonner

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Speaker 2: David seymore as the Prime Minister now the scrapp well

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Speaker 2: with Wellington Council which Wellington Council lost. And Nick Cassidy

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Speaker 2: who's on the verge of winning his first Formula E

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Speaker 2: title this weekend is in from London, Flores Say, Catherine

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Speaker 2: Field and France. Rod Little in the UK Pasky, Welcome

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Speaker 2: to the day. Seven past six. Governmental disappointment of the

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Speaker 2: week for me was the announcement of a panel that

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Speaker 2: we'll look into retail crime. It will take two years.

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Speaker 2: It is not necessary to gather people to take two

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Speaker 2: years to come up with ideas on what to do

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Speaker 2: with retail crime. Retail crime isn't cancer, while it is

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Speaker 2: a form of societal cancer, of course, but it's not

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Speaker 2: a complex issue, the answer to which only is to

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Speaker 2: be found in the lab requiring deep and detailed investigation.

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Speaker 2: What this announcement and dare I say it is the

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Speaker 2: Labour government reheated. When you have a problem and you're

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Speaker 2: not confident of being able to fix it, you create

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Speaker 2: a group to look into it, You give them a

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Speaker 2: generous time frame and you head it as they have

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Speaker 2: with one of your biggest critics in this case, Sonny Causial.

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Speaker 2: By doing this you take the heat out of the

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Speaker 2: pressure you're currently under. All questions going forward about retail

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Speaker 2: crime can be answered by saying, oh, yes, yes, we

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Speaker 2: share your concern, as do the panel we've just set

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Speaker 2: up to look into it, the results of which cannot

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Speaker 2: be far away. Crime is about consequences. This government has

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Speaker 2: made that very clear. It's about police presence and charges

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Speaker 2: and courts and sentences. Sunny Causial has been vocal, very

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Speaker 2: vocal over his ideas which involve their owners being able

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Speaker 2: to make arrests and security guards having more power. We,

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Speaker 2: in other words, already had the answers and in some

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Speaker 2: aspects announcements have already been made in terms of sentencing

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Speaker 2: and police on the beat, making it worse when the

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Speaker 2: panel come up with ideas they already have and have expressed.

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Speaker 2: It will require law change. Ah law change the government

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Speaker 2: will then announce takes time and in that is the

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Speaker 2: problem for governments. This one doesn't have time. They inherited us.

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Speaker 2: Sit will mess and time is of the essence. Some

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Speaker 2: of it can't be fixed quickly, but decisions can be

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Speaker 2: made and actions can be taken. And setting up a

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Speaker 2: labor style committee to do the bleeding obvious, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: And if this is the approach to one of our

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Speaker 2: most urgent issues, they will pay the price electorally. When

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Speaker 2: results don't come in and patients runs out.

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety.

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Speaker 2: Seconds, it is Republican convention time in Milwaukee. The BP's

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Speaker 2: about to be named. Trump has had a massive court

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Speaker 2: when it's all on. But let's start with the investigation

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Speaker 2: and security. The Homeland boss is under pressure.

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Speaker 3: A direct line of sight like that to the former

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Speaker 3: president should not occur. That is precisely why President Biden

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Speaker 3: directed that an independent review of the incident occur. That

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Speaker 3: will be done in close coordination with the FBI.

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Speaker 2: As regards Trump's survival to getting all spiritual with it,

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Speaker 2: he was.

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Speaker 4: Touched by an angel I've heard the President understands the

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Speaker 4: moment that took place. He understands that he there is

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Speaker 4: a high probability he wouldn't have been here had he

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Speaker 4: not turned his head on Saturday. He sees himself as

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Speaker 4: this extended life, as a gift from God.

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Speaker 2: To the courts where the Florida I took the papers

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Speaker 2: I wasn't supposed to. The case has been tossed.

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Speaker 5: It's just not that we were supposed to operate as Americans.

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Speaker 5: And I say that both for if I was on

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Speaker 5: President Biden, you just we have to follow the war.

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Speaker 2: I'll work you through why they've done this in the moment,

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Speaker 2: because it's significant other matters. We got the new British

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Speaker 2: Foreign Secretary in Israel.

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Speaker 6: I hope that we see a hostage deal emerge in

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Speaker 6: the coming days, and I am using all diplomatic efforts,

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Speaker 6: and particularly with Tony Blinken, pressing for that hostage deal.

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Speaker 2: We have the King and the Queen in Jersey. When

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Speaker 7: Issue during the visit.

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Speaker 8: Camilla was eating an ice cream when a member of

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Speaker 8: the Rale contingent whispered.

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Speaker 8: Both She and Charles were then pulled away and taken

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Speaker 2: It was a false alarm. By the way, we have

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Speaker 2: the English football team back home coupless and the reviews

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Speaker 9: I feel like he's had enough rolls of the dice

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Speaker 9: with all the tournaments he's had, and I feel like

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Speaker 9: in the England squad it might be good for a change.

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Speaker 10: Are you good for the players to have a different manager.

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Speaker 7: with a new manager and Devata, yeah.

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Speaker 2: They should be running the country. Finally, turns out jen

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Speaker 2: Z is the biggest time wasted at the office in

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Speaker 2: the study, look at what generation was the most will

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Speaker 2: had the most time away from their desk. Gen Z

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Speaker 2: came up Trump's they take so many more vapor and

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Speaker 2: cigarette breaks. Apparently after gen Z, it was Boomers, then

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Speaker 2: gen X and then millennials. Gen Z say it's because

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Speaker 2: they're the most spressed out, backed up by the study

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Speaker 2: the two thirds saying workplace pressure increases their vapor and

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Speaker 2: take as news of the world in ninety seconds. Just

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Speaker 2: in from Milwaukee. By the way, Rubio Marco has been

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Speaker 2: told he is not he is not going to be

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Speaker 2: the VP. James B. Singing. I'll come back to that

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Speaker 2: in the moment, James B. Sicking. You remember the name,

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Speaker 2: even if you don't, you'll know the face. He's died

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Speaker 2: overnight at the age of ninety. My favorite was Hill

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Speaker 2: Street Blues. He was Howard Hunter for one hundred and

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Speaker 2: forty four episodes of Hill Street Blues. But he was

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Speaker 2: in everything Little House on the Prairie General Hospital, the

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Speaker 2: Pelican Brief, Ordinary Doogie Howser. But he has passed away overnight,

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Speaker 2: moment ago that Ruby has been told he's not the

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Speaker 2: a bright guy. Rubio's my man. I think he's brilliant

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Speaker 2: and you'll one day make a great president. But you

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Speaker 2: don't want to associate yourself with Trump because you run

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Speaker 2: the risk, of course, of being a VP to a disaster.

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Speaker 2: Not that it's necessarily going to be, but you run

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Speaker 2: that very real risk. He allegedly has been told he's

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Speaker 2: Equally good because he looks like a crazy man. So presumably,

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Speaker 2: Tim Scott's a possibility. Previously ran against him, of course,

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Speaker 2: so to do all of that. Fifteen past six Bie

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Speaker 2: now from Infimetrics this morning, Bradley Olsen is doing the

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Speaker 2: business for us. Brad morning to you.

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Speaker 11: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Now you're in Brussel. So we'll come to that particular

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Speaker 2: piece of excitement in just a couple of moments, but

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Speaker 2: bring us back home. Initially, the housing market bit of

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Speaker 2: What do you see for June.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, look, it's not good or depending on how you

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Speaker 12: look at the housing market. We've seen that house prices

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Speaker 12: This actual spening that means more competition on the market,

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Speaker 2: Indeed, you got the CPI coming tomorrow, if that's the

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Speaker 2: Does that materially change the housing market you reckon or not.

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Speaker 12: I don't know if it's as immediate as some people

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Speaker 2: All right, the economy generally the psized services how bad

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Speaker 12: that means that business to business sales genuinely lower. So

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Speaker 12: I think overall still pointing and painting a pretty dark

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Speaker 2: Of course, what will get us out of this is

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Speaker 2: trade and tourism. Tourism stuck on eighty percent trade Urine Brussels.

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Speaker 2: What do you see in Europe and its ability to

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Speaker 2: China yesterday wasn't particularly good.

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Speaker 12: No, I mean, certainly here in Europe there's a lot

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Speaker 12: of interest in doing more trade in there. You know,

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Speaker 12: always good to sort of see, you know, keev exports

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Speaker 18: Well, look, twenty five percent of the world's GDP is here.

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Speaker 18: One of the things we're focusing on is supply chain

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Speaker 18: I'll be telling him about the great New Zealand lamb

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Speaker 18: We're putting a lot of effort into it.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, all right, go, well, appreciated very much. Todd McClay,

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Speaker 2: who is in Italy this morning. No one covers that too.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Modied Mody turns up to Putin's

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Speaker 2: house and they hang out together, and nobody seems to

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Speaker 2: be remotely bothered by that. Eighteen Away from seven Brad

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Speaker 2: Olsen supportive of the EU trade Deal. Yeah, the point

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Speaker 2: Don was reasonable. The EU trade deal is not a

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Speaker 2: great trade deal. I never said it was a great

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Speaker 2: trade deal. And I've almost forgotten his name, O'Connor, Damian O'Connor,

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Speaker 2: remember when he was the trade minister. We had him

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Speaker 2: on the program once they signed it. And if you

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Speaker 2: look at the great trade deals of the world, the

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Speaker 2: one we signed with the UK is as good as

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Speaker 2: it gets. It's absolutely gold standard. Where does the EU

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Speaker 2: sit with that? Not particularly high? But is it better?

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Speaker 2: And I think this is Brad's reference. Is it better

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Speaker 2: than no trade deal at all? And I think in

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Speaker 2: that the answer has to be yes. Eighteen two.

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Speaker 1: The Mike hosting Breakfast.

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Speaker 2: Mike, you're on the money. Why haven't we ramped up

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Speaker 2: the military to reopen the Red Sea trade? When you

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Speaker 2: say we, I mean it's not us. We barely got

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Speaker 2: a military for goodness sake. It's ridiculous that the canal

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Speaker 2: has been closed for a year after centuries of dreaming

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Speaker 2: about building that particular route. It does surprise me it'll

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Speaker 2: be geopolitics and Yemen and all that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 2: I get that, but it's been a problem for a

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Speaker 2: sustained period of time, and why the world hasn't done more.

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Speaker 2: They went in the British and the Americans initially, but

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Speaker 2: nothing really happened, and nothing's happened since as far as

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Speaker 2: I can tell.

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Speaker 19: Six forty five international correspondence with Insie Eye Insurance Peace

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Speaker 19: of mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: We hoped, Captain. Feel very good morning for you.

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Speaker 20: Good morning mine.

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Speaker 2: Weaking a bit to go until the big opening. Are

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Speaker 2: you locked down yet? Can you move still?

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Speaker 21: Yeah?

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Speaker 20: It's getting more and more difficult, Mike.

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Speaker 10: I mean, just today we've had the priority lanes of

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Speaker 10: traffic lanes for Olympic traffic brought in the Paris so

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Speaker 10: that's taken out. It's about one hundred and eighty kilometers

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Speaker 10: of traffic lanes all around Paris have now gone out

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Speaker 10: of use for basic human beings like myself. The whole

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Speaker 10: idea of Mike is that every Olympian should be able

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Speaker 10: to reach the particular sporting venue within thirty minutes of

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Speaker 10: leaving the Olympic village.

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Speaker 20: Well, good luck with that.

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Speaker 10: I mean you know, it doesn't seem to be that easy,

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Speaker 10: but they are doing what they can to make us

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Speaker 10: use public transport. I think what we are they're really seeing, Mike,

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Speaker 10: And this follows off the back of Sunday's best D

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Speaker 10: Day parade here in Paris is just the everyday security,

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Speaker 10: more and more police on the streets, more and more

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Speaker 10: police boats going up and down the Center River, people

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Speaker 10: being checked, a lot, more video surveillance.

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Speaker 20: And I think there's just a real real realization.

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Speaker 10: I think, Mike, that when Paris was awarded these games

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Speaker 10: in what twenty seventeen, the world was a very different place.

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Speaker 20: Since then, we've.

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Speaker 10: Had what we've had COVID, we've got Ukraine war, is

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Speaker 10: ai is disinformation, and.

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Speaker 20: You've got all that.

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Speaker 10: Plus on top of that, you've got the possibility of

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Speaker 10: social unrest because there's still no government in France and

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Speaker 10: all different sides are still scubbling over who's going to

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Speaker 10: lead the government.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, let me come back to the government. In the

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Speaker 2: moment that miss Castira, how did she go? Can she swim?

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Speaker 2: For a start? She was certainly well digged out in

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Speaker 2: the rubber, wasn't she? Jesus must be.

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Speaker 10: She was indeed, Yeah, the Sports Minister had a very

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Speaker 10: quick dip.

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Speaker 20: I would call it a.

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Speaker 10: Dip rather than a swim in the sin on the

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Speaker 10: Saturday morning, mate. Is that the whole question has been

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Speaker 10: will the sin be clean enough? And will boats be

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Speaker 10: able to get downe at because it really is.

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Speaker 20: It's very swell, that tributaries are all overflowing.

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Speaker 10: It's not just high, it's polluted, and it's looking difficult.

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Speaker 10: And what they're saying is this might is that for

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Speaker 10: ten of the last twelve days it has been clean

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Speaker 10: enough to be able to swim in. So I think

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Speaker 10: the deal is you don't ask about those other two days.

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Speaker 10: But generally it's proving difficult because the area all around

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Speaker 10: the sen basin, as you know, is densely populated. Plus

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Speaker 10: there's a lot of cultivated agricultural land nearby, so you've

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Speaker 10: got all these I guess we've got a synthetic fertilizers

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Speaker 10: being sort of swept in to the sind because of

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Speaker 10: this heavy spring and summer rain we've got.

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Speaker 20: And they're just still not yet saying whether it's going

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Speaker 20: to be right.

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Speaker 10: On the days it's just too high, too much worry.

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Speaker 10: You know, it's going to be touched and go for

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Speaker 10: the opening ceremonies. But whether or not that marathon swimming

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Speaker 10: in the sun goes ahead, and whether it's going to

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Speaker 10: be a triathlon or not still a big question.

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Speaker 2: Mark because I know that the Mere Hill dago and

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Speaker 2: of course Macron himself promised to take a dip, so

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Speaker 2: we'll wait and see. Now.

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Speaker 10: By the way, on this government, she's going to take

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Speaker 10: a dip on Wednesday morning, so.

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Speaker 2: That's why a couple of di raup. Fair enough, is

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Speaker 2: she going to be Is she going to put the

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Speaker 2: steamer on? You really need to steamer in the middle

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Speaker 2: of summer.

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Speaker 20: Well it's not that warm hair, Mike Rainy.

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Speaker 10: But yeah, she's she says, Wednesday morning, ten o'clock, she's

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Speaker 10: going to leave her office at the town Hall and

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Speaker 10: it's going to walk down and swim in the sind fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Are we any closer to a government?

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Speaker 20: No fraid not.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 10: The far left all started fighting months themselves and claiming

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Speaker 10: that each other is trying to dis in fact the

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Speaker 10: process for choosing a prime minister. So they've now got

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Speaker 10: to all Parliament's got to be convened on Thursday. They've

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Speaker 10: got to decide on a speaker, that's parliament President, and

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Speaker 10: they say that once they've got that then they might

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Speaker 10: all get together and try and put forward someone to

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Speaker 10: be a prime minister. But in the meantime the President

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Speaker 10: has asked for this centrists in the government and the

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Speaker 10: Parliament to get together and come forward with some sort

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Speaker 10: of democratic center government.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll look forward to your company next week.

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Speaker 2: K'in appreciate it very much, Catherine Field. And France, by

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Speaker 2: the way, Delta, as in the American airline, they say

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Speaker 2: the competition is going to cost them, as in the Olympics,

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Speaker 2: going to cost them one hundred million dollars in a

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Speaker 2: revenue hit because people aren't going to Paris if youre

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Speaker 2: going to Paris. Basically the saying, unless you're going to

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Speaker 2: the Olympics, no one's going to Paris. Very few people

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Speaker 2: want to be in Paris for the Olympics unless you're

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Speaker 2: there specifically for the Olympics. So they're seeing bookings all

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Speaker 2: over the place that aren't Paris. So they calculated it

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Speaker 2: to mean they will take a one hundred million dollar

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Speaker 2: hit in revenue. And that's just one airline ten away

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Speaker 2: from seven.

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Speaker 1: My costkil breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News Talks IVY.

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Speaker 2: I know with a great deal of bitterest Morning Joe,

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Speaker 2: which is mis NBC progressive. That is what the word

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Speaker 2: is used in America. They are a progressive show, I

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Speaker 2: left leaning anyway. They didn't they didn't put themselves on

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Speaker 2: air this morning. They ran with their so called live

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Speaker 2: rolling coverage. Decision was made to avoid a scenario in

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Speaker 2: at a time when we need to be a little

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Speaker 2: bit sensitive about about that. Now to Milwaukee itself, we'll

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Speaker 2: get you to Simon Marx, who's at the convention for

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Speaker 2: us after seven o'clock this morning. But here's a flavor

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Speaker 2: from the Iowa Republican chairman, a guy called Jef Kaufman.

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Speaker 13: So here we go.

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Speaker 3: It is my honor ten eight Donald J.

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Speaker 16: Trump for the office, Bros.

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Speaker 2: He's how dealing it, he is howard dealing it. He's

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Speaker 2: a large round brown man. When I say brown, don't

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Speaker 2: get carried away. Just look like he'd been in the

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Speaker 2: sun a lot, but he looked like he could explode

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Speaker 2: at any moment. Five minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Well, the ins and the outs, it's the fizz with

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Speaker 1: business fiber, take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this business of China continues to unfold. World watching

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Speaker 2: and waits for the bounce back. Q two didn't happen.

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Speaker 2: Four point seven was your number, and you go, well,

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Speaker 2: four point seven, I've gone it wouldn't be wonderful. We

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Speaker 2: had four point seven, Yes, it would be, but we

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Speaker 2: don't anyway. They were disappointed with four point seven. So

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Speaker 2: the under expectation those numbers government's annual growth target as

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Speaker 2: around about five percent. Q two was expected to be

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Speaker 2: five point one, So four point seven was your disappointment.

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Speaker 2: Continued property slow downs Your main problem. A high unemployment,

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Speaker 2: weak consumption, particularly among the tremendous number of young Chinese unemployed, asumption,

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Speaker 2: big local government debt that's a millstone around their neck.

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Speaker 2: New home prices fell four and a half percent year

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Speaker 2: on year, biggest drop in nine years. New construction starts

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Speaker 2: with our over twenty three percent. Property investment was down

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Speaker 2: over ten percent. All ugly. As I got a bright spot.

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Speaker 2: You want a bright spot in dust real production that

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Speaker 2: beat the expectations. Grew five point three percent. Retail only

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Speaker 2: up two percent, missed by a mile. Fixed asset investment

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Speaker 2: up by three point nine percent, missed by a mile.

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Speaker 2: Export's still reasonable. Those were up eight point six percent. Exports,

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Speaker 2: so that's good. Button is where New Zealand fits him.

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Speaker 2: The import story not good at all because the imports

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Speaker 2: were down two point three percent. You don't want to

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Speaker 2: be selling to a country that's not really interested in

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Speaker 2: buying anymore, do you. So that's China, and that's unfortunately

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Speaker 2: where we're at.

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Speaker 22: JD.

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Speaker 2: Varnce appears to be the hot ticket. We'll get the

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Speaker 2: word from Assimon Marks, as I say, from Feature Story

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Speaker 2: News FSM, and we'll walk in just a couple of moments. Varnce,

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Speaker 2: former marine fort in Iraq, always good. They turned his

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Speaker 2: life into a film in twenty twenty because he wrote

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Speaker 2: a book and they thought that's a good book, will

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Speaker 2: make a film out of it. Glenn's seen it. I haven't,

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Speaker 2: but he raves. He said, as far as books go,

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Speaker 2: it's just and as far as films goes fantastic one

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Speaker 2: Ohio in twenty twenty two. He opposes abortion, he's for

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Speaker 2: the wall, he's a critic of the military and the

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Speaker 2: aid for Ukraine. Doesn't like any of that. So Trump's

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Speaker 2: loving him so far. Hates Meta, hates TikTok. He doesn't

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Speaker 2: hate Meta and hate TikTok.

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Speaker 13: I mean, just just to clarify on my review of

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Speaker 13: the movie. It was an okay movie.

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Speaker 2: It was only okay, but weirdly, in a movie that.

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Speaker 13: Was supposed to make you like him, it made me

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Speaker 13: really hateful.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you don't like him, so you wouldn't pick him

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Speaker 2: as your VP. Okay converted to Catholicism in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 2: That changed your mind at all? It's changes tune on Trump.

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Speaker 2: Hated Trump in twenty sixteen, by the time we got

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Speaker 2: to twenty twenty, loves him. So more on this just

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Speaker 2: a moment.

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Speaker 1: Big news Bold opinions the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's

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Speaker 1: real Estate doing real estate differently since nineteen seventy three,

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Speaker 2: Seven past seven so for reasons they could never have imagined.

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Speaker 2: This week's Republican National Convention has the world watching. Of course,

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Speaker 2: this is how it all unfolds. Literally as we speak.

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Speaker 2: The delegates go to the conference floor and they tell

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Speaker 2: the conference just who they're voting for. This is Jessica

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Speaker 2: Patterson of California.

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Speaker 23: With the largest delegation in the nation. Madam Secretary the

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Speaker 23: Great State of California, proudly casts all of its one

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Speaker 23: hundred and sixty nine votes for President.

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump, and we go around floor until he gets

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Speaker 2: twelve hundred and fifteen, which is the number he needs

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Speaker 2: to secure the nomination the president. She correspondent for Feature

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Speaker 2: Story News FSN, Simon Marx is at that convention ends

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Speaker 2: with us, good morning.

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Speaker 17: And good afternoon from Milwaukee.

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Speaker 2: The comments we've heard from the former President Trump about

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Speaker 2: a new speech being written in a chance to unite

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Speaker 2: the country, if not the entire world. How much of

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Speaker 2: that do we believe, as the revived that that is

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Speaker 2: possible at the convention.

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Speaker 17: Well, it certainly appears to be a plan that has

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Speaker 17: been widely shared with prominent supporters of former President Donald Trump.

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Speaker 17: I was talking a bit earlier today to Senator Ron

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Speaker 17: Johnson of Wisconsin. Of course, Milwaukee is in Wisconsin. He's

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Speaker 17: the one of the two senators from the state where

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Speaker 17: this convention is taking place, and he was absolutely certain

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Speaker 17: he's a very close ally of Donald Trump. That we're

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Speaker 17: going to hear a new tone, a call for unity

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Speaker 17: in the speech that Donald Trump will be making on

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Speaker 17: Thursday night here in which he will formally accept the

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Speaker 17: Republican Party's presidential nomination and urging for Americans to try

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Speaker 17: and find a way of coming together. And indeed, friends

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Speaker 17: and associates of Donald Trump who have seen him over

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Speaker 17: the weekend since the attempted assassination that took place at

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Speaker 17: the rally in Pennsylvania on Saturday, describe him as a

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Speaker 17: changed man, with some suggesting that he had even reacted

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Speaker 17: spiritually to the attempted assassination and to his survival. He

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Speaker 17: told one reporter with the Washington Examiner when he arrived

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Speaker 17: here in Milwaukee that I should be dead. So there

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Speaker 17: is certainly a heightened expectation that this will be a

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Speaker 17: very different Donald Trump than the one that we have

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Speaker 17: obviously all become used to seeing. And obviously many observers

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Speaker 17: here are wondering how long that new tone might be adopted,

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Speaker 17: or to what extent It's going to be one speech

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Speaker 17: and then he'll revert.

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Speaker 2: To type, and then of course you've got the convention

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Speaker 2: itself that theme. If it's possible, can they contain all

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Speaker 2: the people within the Republican Party who, under other circumstances

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Speaker 2: might have been a little freer in the language prior

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Speaker 2: to this event.

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Speaker 17: Yes, I mean, I think that the sense coming into Milwaukee,

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Speaker 17: and you know delegates have been streaming into this city

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Speaker 17: in the hours since the assassination attempt, is that it's

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Speaker 17: absolutely uniting the party around Donald Trump and cementing his

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Speaker 17: position at its helm in a way that Trump and

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Speaker 17: is in a circle could only have dreamt of six

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Speaker 17: months ago. I mean, even we've heard in the last

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Speaker 17: few hours a speaking invitation has been given to Nicky Hayley,

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Speaker 17: who of course was Trump's rival in the primaries. She

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Speaker 17: was only invited to attend this convention on Saturday, and

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Speaker 17: now they're finding space for her in the speeches on

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Speaker 17: Tuesday night. So this is a party absolutely uniting around

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Speaker 17: former President Donald Trump at the very point, of course

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Speaker 17: that Democrats are many of them in the House of

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Speaker 17: Representatives and more broadly, prominent supporters of the Democratic Party

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Speaker 17: like George Clooney saying to President Joe Biden please drop

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Speaker 17: out of the race. So an astonishing and very unexpected

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Speaker 17: contrast that we're going to see.

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Speaker 2: Here and while we're getting reports, while we got you

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Speaker 2: here Simon Bergham and Ruby urb and told they are

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Speaker 2: not vps. Do we have any further information?

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Speaker 17: Well, we know now the announcement is coming here this

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Speaker 17: afternoon Milwaukee time, and we increasingly think that the vice

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Speaker 17: presidential candidate will be Senator JD. Vance of Ohio. There

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Speaker 17: were some telltale signs over the weekend he received secrets

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Speaker 17: this protection. On Sunday today there were reports that he

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Speaker 17: was afforded a motorcade to make his way to the

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Speaker 17: convention Center, the VII ser Of Arena here in Milwaukee. JD.

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Speaker 17: Vance has been on a bit of a journey. I mean,

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Speaker 17: he was a pretty ferocious critic of Donald Trump back

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Speaker 17: in the twenty sixteen cycle, but since then he has

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Speaker 17: absolutely embraced Donald Trump's Make America Greater gain movement, and

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Speaker 17: prominent Republicans that you talk to will say, look, this

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Speaker 17: appointment is not just about finding a running mate. This

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Speaker 17: is about anointing a successor to Donald Trump. So that's

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Speaker 17: a big moment that's coming up here in a few

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Speaker 17: hours time.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, Simon, just to interrupt, I apologize Sir Simon Marx

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Speaker 2: of if his scene will lead him to it, because

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Speaker 2: the announcement's just been made that it is jd Vance

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Speaker 2: after and this is Trump on social truth social so

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Speaker 2: the shares will go up again. After lengthy deliberation and thought,

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Speaker 2: and considering the tremendous talents of many others, I've decided

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Speaker 2: that the person best suited to assume the position of

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Speaker 2: Vice President of the United States is seen Ator JD.

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Speaker 2: Vance of the Great State of o Ohio. The Governor

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Speaker 2: of Ohio, Mike de Wines on the floor.

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Speaker 14: We're very happy.

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Speaker 2: This is a great day for Ohio.

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Speaker 21: Ohio truly is the heart of it all, as we say.

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Speaker 2: And now we have the base presidential candid and we

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Speaker 2: help the next base president Ranged States and Jed Evans

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Speaker 2: asking it is one and it's past seven, bring it

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Speaker 2: back home. The police pay deals finally been settled. Essentially,

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Speaker 2: they couldn't agree talk for ages, so they took it

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Speaker 2: off to an independent arbitrator who favored the government's argument

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Speaker 2: fifteen hundred dollars lump sum backdated wage increases at least

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Speaker 2: five thousand dollars over time from next July. The Association

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Speaker 2: president Chris Carhill's with us on this. Chris morning to you.

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Speaker 21: Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: This is an elegant solution. I know you don't like it,

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Speaker 2: but if you can't agree, you can't agree. Get somebody

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Speaker 2: down the middle to make the call. They made the call.

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Speaker 2: And that's life, isn't it.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, well, certainly you have to accept it. The only

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Speaker 21: difference is, Mike, because it's formal oft for arbitration, both

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Speaker 21: parties stand to win big or lose bigger. We think

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Speaker 21: you'd better to have arbitration. We're an arbitrator, could pick

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Speaker 21: and choose something in the middle, pick and two's the best,

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Speaker 21: what we are for, the best, what police offer, and

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Speaker 21: sort of come up with a solution that that's more

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Speaker 21: equitable to everyone, rather than one side wins at all

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Speaker 21: than one side loses.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's negotiation, and you couldn't negotiate. It didn't work.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, but sometimes that's having an independent arbitrade and that

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Speaker 21: can choose the best is still a better position, we

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Speaker 21: think than just having losing everything. When you put your

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Speaker 21: case on the side and it becomes so marginal, as

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Speaker 21: it was in this.

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Speaker 2: Case, you wouldn't say that if you'd won, though, would you.

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Speaker 21: Well, you know, we won last time, and we still

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Speaker 21: think there's issues with it. I think that the whole

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Speaker 21: idea of it is when it was put together so

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Speaker 21: that police can't because police can't strike and the government's

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Speaker 21: meant to come to the party and recognize that as

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Speaker 21: a condition. Where it's not being recognized a condition, then

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Speaker 21: they're not giving the police enough to actually put the

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Speaker 21: right offers on the table. That's when it come to

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Speaker 21: the issue.

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Speaker 2: See, here's part of the problem is although we would

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Speaker 2: all agree, I think, and nurses probably fall into the

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Speaker 2: same category, should nurses be paid more? Should police be

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Speaker 2: paid more? We'd all go yes. Then you get down

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Speaker 2: to the houch more. In numbers terms, it's not a

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Speaker 2: bad deal, is it? Four plus four plus fifteen hundred

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Speaker 2: plus overtime?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, Look, it's not the worst ealier ever without. The

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Speaker 21: problem is it doesn't get officers back, even even with

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Speaker 21: inflation over the sort of the five year periods, so

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Speaker 21: the last two years and the three years going forward.

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Speaker 21: And the other thing it doesn't do is address the

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Speaker 21: big increases in demand, the big increases and risk and

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Speaker 21: complexity of the role, and other groups such as nurses

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Speaker 21: and teachers that have been able to industry election have

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Speaker 21: had some recognition to that over the last five and

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Speaker 21: ten years. Police never have. So there's those two issues

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Speaker 21: that it happened, really why we haven't been able to settle.

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Speaker 2: Chris, appreciate your time. Chris Carhill, who's the Police Association president?

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Speaker 2: Tell you who shouldn't be in a job as Darlene Tanner.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it ironic? She's got Mikey Sherman and can ring

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Speaker 2: her up and go?

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Speaker 24: Hallo?

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Speaker 2: Mikey, can I come and talk? But you can't find

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Speaker 2: a number for the Green Party? And what does that

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Speaker 2: say about him? More In a moment fifteen past the

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Speaker 2: hosts acting Prime Minister the day see Moore in a

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Speaker 2: couple of moments eighteen minutes past seven and a sign

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Speaker 2: that Darling Tana is digging and she managed to bring

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Speaker 2: the media, but not her own party, who still can't

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Speaker 2: get hold of her. Apparently she still disputes the report,

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Speaker 2: which we've yet to see, although the only people holding

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Speaker 2: up its releases I understand it now are Tanner herself

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Speaker 2: and her husband. Anyway, Peter dunes with us on this. Peter,

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Speaker 2: very good morning to you, good one. Having seen the

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Speaker 2: interview last night, and she said nothing particularly coherent. She

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Speaker 2: doesn't agree with the report, which is which is her right.

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Speaker 2: Isn't the ball now in the Green's court? They've got

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Speaker 2: to do something about.

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Speaker 22: This, yes, and I think this.

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Speaker 24: I thought originally her response had two bits for it,

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Speaker 24: but I'm not so sure now. I thought she was

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Speaker 24: on the one hand, she could be undecided about the future.

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Speaker 24: On the other, which I think is far more likely.

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Speaker 24: She's now throwing down the gold book to the Greens.

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Speaker 24: You move, not me, and I think that's going to

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Speaker 24: put them in a very difficult position.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, what does it say about Chloe's leadership that this

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Speaker 2: has been allowed to drag on for so long and

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming in an embarrassing.

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Speaker 24: Way, well seventeen weeks class and it's certainly not going

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Speaker 24: to be resolved in anytime soon. Does show I think

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Speaker 24: a lack of both decisiveness and also empathy within the

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Speaker 24: Green Party. Actually they haven't really tried to work out

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Speaker 24: a cheerway through this, if Darlian Tanna's account is correct.

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Speaker 24: But they said we came to the meeting and said right,

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Speaker 24: you've got to resign. Then that doesn't show much in

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Speaker 24: the way of personnel management skills.

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Speaker 2: No, indeed not the walker jumping. I get that they're

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Speaker 2: against it, but what better example is there because you

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Speaker 2: can't possibly want this woman wandering off one is an

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Speaker 2: independent or worse of the Murray party, can you.

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Speaker 24: Well, that's right, and the different of the Greens have

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Speaker 24: not though is of course we saw we could go

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Speaker 24: right back to the donnertarity a case in the early

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Speaker 24: two thousands. It's not an open and shut case. That

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Speaker 24: case dragged on and went to the High Court in

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Speaker 24: the end over many many months, and that's the last

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Speaker 24: thing the Greens would want. So if Karna's not going

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Speaker 24: to cooperate and go quietly, and they decided to invoke

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Speaker 24: the walk up trumping legislation, then the seventeen weeks we've

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Speaker 24: had so far could probably treble what the matters results.

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Speaker 2: Should they release the report despite the fact Tanna and

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Speaker 2: her husband don't want it released, given we paid for most.

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Speaker 24: Of it, Well, I think I think it does need

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Speaker 24: to be released because there's obviously a public debate about

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Speaker 24: who said what, who did what, when and how And

872
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Speaker 24: it's not good enough really for Tanna and her husband

873
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Speaker 24: to say, you know, we don't think the report's correct,

874
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Speaker 24: but we don't want it released. That just doesn't stack up.

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Speaker 2: Now it does. Niceity you, Pete appreciate it as always,

876
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Speaker 2: Peter done. Are they just weird or is it me?

877
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Speaker 2: I mean, are increasingly looking like a bunch of weirdos.

878
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Speaker 2: The more you look into the party, the more odd

879
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Speaker 2: they are. And I said yesterday in the program, this

880
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 2: does go back to candidate selection. Clearly nobody asks any

881
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Speaker 2: questions at all about your background, where you've been, what

882
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 2: you think, how you behave all of these other questions.

883
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Speaker 2: Do not forget this was about migrant exploitation. This was

884
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Speaker 2: not There was nothing lighthearted about this. This is about

885
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Speaker 2: migrant exploitation, one of the worst things you could possibly

886
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Speaker 2: do one as a human being. But be as a politician,

887
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Speaker 2: I would have thought anyway more on the courts. Actually,

888
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Speaker 2: as it turns out, in the moment, seven twenty cost

889
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Speaker 2: breakfast right. If you're a business leader, you're looking for

890
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891
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Speaker 2: of five hundred percent sound? Well, it sounds unbelievable, of course,

892
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Speaker 2: but it can be true. King your knowledge work as

893
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Speaker 2: harness the power of the AI going to generate a

894
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Speaker 2: very high return on investment. They're going to make better decisions,

895
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Speaker 2: They're going to come up with new innovative ideas with AI.

896
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Speaker 2: So how can you provide them with access to AI

897
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Speaker 2: safely and securely? Well, one net they have got the

898
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899
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Speaker 2: for risk averse businesses to access generative AI. It's low

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Speaker 2: touch software, works right out of the box, great user experience,

902
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Speaker 2: no integrations, no training, no delays getting started. So if

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Speaker 2: papers how grizzly AI can generate a five hundred percent

907
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Speaker 2: plus return on your investment and their online model. You

908
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Speaker 2: can try it out with your own financial assumptions. See

909
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Speaker 2: how your return's going to be with GRIZZLYAI. One net

910
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Speaker 2: plus Grizzly AI helping you to succeed in business. Seven

911
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 2: twenty four. Trump's just gone over the top with Florida.

912
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Speaker 2: He's got twelve fifty nine needs twelve to fifty one

913
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Speaker 2: as far as delegates are concern. Anyway back here, we're

914
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Speaker 2: standing by for the courts to rule on the Uber case.

915
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Speaker 2: So the Uber case involves some drivers right who decided

916
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Speaker 2: they didn't like the way the company operated, and so

917
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Speaker 2: with the union backing, they went to the court in

918
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Speaker 2: the hope that they intervene and change the rules. Now,

919
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Speaker 2: this is basically the gig economy. The gig economy is

920
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Speaker 2: the one that allows you not to be tied down

921
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Speaker 2: to an employee. You work for them if you want

922
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Speaker 2: to or not, as the mood takes you. You can

923
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 2: do fifteen hours one week, forty five the next. You

924
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Speaker 2: can work for other people. You can come and go

925
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Speaker 2: as you please. This for a free thinker and an

926
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Speaker 2: independent operator suits, but for unions and the like, it's

927
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Speaker 2: the antithesis of everything they believe work should be. Work

928
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Speaker 2: should be a form of slavery in which you are

929
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Speaker 2: shackled to an overlord who dictates your circumstances. Yes, they

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Speaker 2: give you sick leave and holiday pay, but they also

931
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Speaker 2: tell you what's what. Which is where the union steps in. See,

932
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Speaker 2: unions are nothing without aggrieved workers, and aggrieved workers are

933
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Speaker 2: found in old work employment scenarios When aggrieved you can

934
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Speaker 2: plead your case around paying conditions, you can go on strike,

935
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Speaker 2: all the usual employment paraphernalia. The drivers want the court

936
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Speaker 2: to flip the Uber deal on its head. They want

937
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Speaker 2: to be employees, not contractors. Now act as in the

938
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Speaker 2: government want to change employment law, so you can't go

939
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Speaker 2: and do that, and they're right. Allowing courts to set

940
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Speaker 2: law as opposed to interpret law is dangerous and too

941
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Speaker 2: many courts in this country these days are dabulers. If

942
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Speaker 2: you can't set up a business with a model that

943
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Speaker 2: allows you to pursue the ideas and dreams you see

944
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 2: as a means to success, you are not living in

945
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Speaker 2: a free country. Open, honest and free exchange of working

946
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Speaker 2: arrangements is the cornerstone of a democracy. I would have

947
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Speaker 2: thought some drivers and unions don't want that, and that

948
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Speaker 2: is dangerous. Other governments were keen for the courts to

949
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Speaker 2: rule on this before they acted or reacted to it

950
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Speaker 2: all Act. Apparently they want to nip this in the bud.

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Speaker 14: Act right.

952
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Speaker 2: Asking deal with that with the acting Prime Minister in

953
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Speaker 2: a couple of moments. So JD Vance's you management a

954
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Speaker 2: busy half hour, isn't it? So officially trump as your nominee.

955
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Speaker 2: He's now at thirteen hundred and twenty eight. Needed twelve fifty,

956
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Speaker 2: needed twelve fifty What did I say, it was twelve

957
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Speaker 2: fifty one, whatever, it was, twelve fifteen, twelve fifteen, he

958
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Speaker 2: got twelve fifty one with Florida is now up at

959
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Speaker 2: thirteen twenty eight, so he's home free. There's no question

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Speaker 2: he was going to get the nomination. Also anounced in

961
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Speaker 2: the last half hour. JD. Vance, former marine fort in Iraq,

962
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Speaker 2: study political science and philosophy, always useful philosophy. His book

963
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Speaker 2: Hillbilly Elogy, a memoir of a family and culture and crisis,

964
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Speaker 2: that was out in twenty sixteen, movie in twenty twenty.

965
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Speaker 2: Look it up today. One Ohio in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: First US Senator from Ohio since Glenn and seventy four

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Speaker 2: to take office without having any previous government experience. Opposed

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Speaker 2: as abortion, isn't against same sex marriage. Loves the Wall,

969
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Speaker 2: doesn't one aid going to Ukraine. Thinks Ukraine should seed

970
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Speaker 2: some territory back to the Russians. Supports funding for Israel.

971
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Speaker 2: Thinks people who have kids should have a bigger say

972
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Speaker 2: in how democracy functions over non parents. Doesn't like meta

973
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Speaker 2: doesn't like TikTok, supports collective bargaining. He's a Catholic now

974
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Speaker 2: as of twenty nineteen. Didn't like Trump, was against Trump

975
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Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen. Changes tune believes that the election was

976
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Speaker 2: stolen in twenty twenty, so you can see why him

977
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Speaker 2: and the Donald get on so well together. And he

978
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Speaker 2: is your man. So it is a Trump Vance ticket

979
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Speaker 2: v Biden and Harris news for you.

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Speaker 1: Next, demanding the answers from the decision makers. The mic

981
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Speaker 1: asking breakfast with Vida, retirement communities, Life your Way news

982
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Speaker 1: Tog said been.

983
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Speaker 2: Nick Cassidy is on the verge of winning his first

984
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Speaker 2: Formula the title the final couple of races in London

985
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Speaker 2: this weekend. He's at the home in Monaco at the moment,

986
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Speaker 2: but he leads and which evens a second, which gives you,

987
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Speaker 2: once again an indication of just how good we are

988
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 2: at this motorsport thing. Anyway, Nick Cassidy is with us

989
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 2: after wait o'clock this morning. Meantime running the country at

990
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Speaker 2: the moment is David Seymour, Who's what it's good to

991
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Speaker 2: see you morningway. A couple of things. Just before the

992
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Speaker 2: news I was mentioning this uber case which has been

993
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 2: in court, and I know you guys are interested in it.

994
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,439
Speaker 2: Are you doing something about it? Will you do something

995
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: about it or are you going to wait for the

996
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 2: court to rule before you do anything about it.

997
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 15: Well, Brock van Velden's our Minister for workplace Relations and

998
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 15: she's committed to making it clear that if you want

999
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 15: to be in a contract relationship, you're not going to

1000
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Speaker 15: have that changed into employment somewhere down the track, because

1001
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Speaker 15: if you say, look, you know you're signed a contract now,

1002
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 15: but it could be turned into employment with all those

1003
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Speaker 15: obligations later on, basically means contractings meaningless and for a

1004
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 15: lot of people, including people and the likes of Uber,

1005
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 15: contracting is actually a god send because it allows you

1006
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Speaker 15: the freedom to choose your own terms.

1007
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Speaker 2: So you're saying they're wasting their time in court.

1008
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 15: I certainly would not say that, but I am saying

1009
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 15: that we have a government that is committed to the

1010
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 15: freedom to contract.

1011
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 2: If the court rules in their favor though, and flips it,

1012
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 2: what are you going to do about it?

1013
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 15: Well, we'll have to actually see what the court ruling

1014
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 15: said and then decide our next step. Obviously, we respect

1015
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 15: the jurisdiction of the courts to make their own calls

1016
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Speaker 15: and interpret the law as they see fit. But equally,

1017
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Speaker 15: as an elected government and a parliament, we reserve the

1018
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Speaker 15: right to ensure that our policies that people voted for

1019
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 15: are put in place for New Zealanders to access, including

1020
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Speaker 15: the freedom to contract.

1021
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Speaker 2: All right, So as in your role as the boss

1022
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 2: of Farmact today there's an announcement coming, what is it

1023
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 2: and where's the tribute white tongue? You fit into it?

1024
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 15: So as the minister, I can write a letter of

1025
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Speaker 15: expectation to the board. I mean, farmac's actually got its

1026
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 15: own board. It's a bit independent, but ministers can write

1027
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Speaker 15: these letters. And this letter says, look, you guys are

1028
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 15: tremendous people. You're very qualified, you do an amazing job.

1029
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 15: But over time your culture has become a bit defensive.

1030
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 15: We'd like to see you more collaborative with clinicians and

1031
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 15: patient groups and vendors of medical technology. It also says

1032
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Speaker 15: we acknowledge previously that the Minister of Health Eischeverril, said

1033
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 15: you must embed the treaty and everything that you do.

1034
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Speaker 15: My basic message is I know she said that, but

1035
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Speaker 15: actually if embedding the treaty means that you treat every

1036
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 15: single patient exactly the same based on need, then that's

1037
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 15: all Carpi. But we don't need to mention it. If

1038
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 15: embedding the Treaty means that you're going to treat people

1039
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 15: differently based on who their ancestors were hundreds of years ago,

1040
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 15: we don't want to know about it. Because we actually

1041
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 15: believe in universal human rights.

1042
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Speaker 2: Will they follow that well?

1043
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 15: They are expected to, the board will be responsible for

1044
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 15: upholding the policies of the organization. We have a chair

1045
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Speaker 15: in Paula Bennett that we appointed last month and she is,

1046
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 15: you know, I think, absolutely committed to following the directives

1047
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Speaker 15: from the Minister and ultimately the Cabinet and government. So yes,

1048
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Speaker 15: I expect they will.

1049
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Speaker 2: In your time as minister, what have you? What isn't

1050
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 2: bedding the Treaty in a decision? I mean, you're out

1051
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 2: there negotiating with a drug company to buy some pills

1052
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 2: or potions or treatments. Where does the Treaty come into that?

1053
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 15: Frankly, I think the reason that we have pylons falling

1054
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 15: over and firies crashing into beaches and who knows what

1055
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 15: else going on is that we've had enormous emphasis on

1056
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Speaker 15: the intangible and not enough emphasis on the tangible. If

1057
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Speaker 15: you look at the case of Transpower, they published very

1058
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Speaker 15: high minded reports. I think it was something like to

1059
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Speaker 15: hero Maudi and that's wonderful, But you know what they

1060
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 15: needed to do make sure that they screwed the nuts

1061
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Speaker 15: in at the right time, right.

1062
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Speaker 2: So there's no thing actually that you can cite that

1063
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: far MAK had been doing having embedded the Treaty into

1064
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 2: their decision making process, that's manifestly changed anything at all.

1065
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 15: Ultimately, you make a decision do we use the money

1066
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 15: we have to fund this treatment or that treatment based

1067
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Speaker 15: on the maths how many years of life can we save?

1068
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Speaker 15: I have to say I'm eager to see Farmak take

1069
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Speaker 15: a more holistic view of how can we save the

1070
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 15: taxpayer money with fewer hospital admissions or more people working,

1071
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 15: fewer people on benefits and so on, so that they're

1072
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Speaker 15: taking a wider view. But it's still a mathematical formula

1073
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Speaker 15: to answer your question in relation to it, Does embedding

1074
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Speaker 15: the treaty really change something as technical and tangible as

1075
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Speaker 15: choosing drugs? No, it certainly should not. I can't imagine

1076
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Speaker 15: how it would. What I do notice is that they've

1077
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Speaker 15: hired quite a number of people to fulfill this obligation

1078
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Speaker 15: to the previous government, regardless of whether it's practical. I

1079
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Speaker 15: expect that the board, led by Paula Bennett, will be

1080
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Speaker 15: making sure that they're focused on how do we get

1081
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Speaker 15: the treatments to the sick people as quickly as possible

1082
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Speaker 15: for the money we have?

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Speaker 2: Should a few people get sacked in that sense because

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Speaker 2: you appoint the board, the board do them hiring firing,

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Speaker 2: and there are people clearly who've been adhering to the

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Speaker 2: previous administrations edicts that shouldn't be there.

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Speaker 15: I hate to seem like I'm weaseling out of it,

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Speaker 15: but it is actually up to the board. So you know,

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Speaker 15: I appoint them, I write them a letter. They basically

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Speaker 15: govern the thing, the chief executive and senior leadership team.

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Speaker 2: In appointing the board, do you go, jeez, I'd be astonished,

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Speaker 2: paul if we don't see a bit of change, What

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Speaker 2: do you reckon? And Paula goes, I think so too, David.

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Speaker 15: Well, if we had had a conversation like that, I

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Speaker 15: wouldn't be allowed to talk about it. Here would I.

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Speaker 2: The bill that you've got, is it a private member's bill?

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Speaker 2: On the Council and climate change.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, so that's Mark Cameron, the hero of rural New

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Speaker 15: Zealand and Parliament and a tremendous guy. You may have

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Speaker 15: seen he's had some tough times and it was written

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Speaker 15: up in the Herald last weekend. But you know, I

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Speaker 15: think Mark literally believes that every rural New Zealander is

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Speaker 15: genetically related to him and he will do anything to

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Speaker 15: stand up for a country. What he's produced as a

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Speaker 15: member's bill which has to be drawn from the ballot

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Speaker 15: and so on, but it basically says, look, councils don't

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Speaker 15: need to be considering climate messes under the rama because

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Speaker 15: we have a thing called the emissions Trading scheme. If

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Speaker 15: you want to emit carbon dioxide you can, but there's

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Speaker 15: a cap number of units that you've got to buy,

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Speaker 15: and if you admit too many, of the price goes up.

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Speaker 15: So deal with it that way. Duplication by councils just

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Speaker 15: means more bureaucracy and boxity's one thing New Zealand ain't

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Speaker 15: shut off.

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Speaker 2: So you've got to get it out of the ballot.

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Speaker 2: If you get it out of the ballot, do you

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Speaker 2: have the numbers of you canvas that at all or not.

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Speaker 15: Look, I don't know where Mark's up to and doing that,

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Speaker 15: but I suspect that you'd expect you'd get pretty good

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Speaker 15: support from New Zealand VERSUSA National, and that's a majority.

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Speaker 15: But I can't speak for them right now.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Fairies, how protracted and I know you won't

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Speaker 2: answer this because you seem super tense about it. How

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Speaker 2: protracted are the discussions with the Koreans about getting out

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Speaker 2: of that thing?

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Speaker 13: Well you had it right before.

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Speaker 15: Well look, I mean, in fairness, you know we've got

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Speaker 15: some officials who are there playing cards on behalf of

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Speaker 15: the New Zealand tax bar with hundreds of millions of

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Speaker 15: dollars at stake. So I'm not going to sit there

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Speaker 15: and tell the world what I don't.

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Speaker 2: Want you to. But the writing was that the paperwork

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00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 2: came out at about the same time from Treasury saying

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Speaker 2: you've got to be careful about this, at about the

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Speaker 2: same time Nicol had signed it wasn't on. Is it

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Speaker 2: possible we will end up, whether you agree with the

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Speaker 2: decision or not, we will end up paying as much,

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Speaker 2: if not more to get out plus buy new Fairies

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Speaker 2: than we would have by simply carrying on.

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Speaker 13: Not at all.

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Speaker 15: There's a couple of issues that need to be added

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Speaker 15: to that listening. Number one is that the harbor Master

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00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 15: at Marlborough said that we're not going to let these

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Speaker 15: fairies because they're too wide to go through the Tory channel.

1145
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Speaker 15: So that's the first thing that you just you actually

1146
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 15: can't make this stuff up. I mean, I know people

1147
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Speaker 15: don't like us begging the previous government and they want

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Speaker 15: to know what we're going to do now, But can

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Speaker 15: I just say to your listeners, the previous government wanted

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Speaker 15: to buy fairies that the harbor master would not let

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Speaker 15: doc at the place that they were brought to go

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Speaker 15: to being picked In number two. They also hadn't figured

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Speaker 15: out how they were going to get the trains on

1154
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Speaker 15: and off. They didn't have a price for that, and

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Speaker 15: it started off at a few hundred million. By the

1156
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Speaker 15: time the good people of New Zealand voted them out

1157
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Speaker 15: it was up to three point two billion. And had

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Speaker 15: they won another another term, I suspect they would have

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Speaker 15: got to the stage where it would have actually been

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Speaker 15: cheaper just to build a rail tunnel between the two

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Speaker 15: islands instead of what they Having.

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Speaker 2: Read the paperwork between Kiwi Rail and the government. How

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Speaker 2: incompetent is Kiwi Rail to say this is the final number, grant,

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Speaker 2: don't worry about it, and then go WAPs it's billions

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Speaker 2: of dollars more. I mean that's on them, isn't it.

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Speaker 15: Well, let me just divide it up. I mean, when

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Speaker 15: it comes to running a train service, I don't think

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Speaker 15: they're that bad.

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Speaker 13: But that's the thing.

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Speaker 15: It's Kiwi Rail, It's not ki We build a port

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Speaker 15: and once they once they tried to get into the

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Speaker 15: port building business, turned out they were pretty incompetent. I mean,

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Speaker 15: if if you wanted on a one to ten, I'd

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Speaker 15: probably give you about eleven because they just weren't set

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Speaker 15: up to do that. And as I say, they spent

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Speaker 15: so much money trying to work out how to get

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Speaker 15: trains to drive off the land across earthquake prone land

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Speaker 15: onto a boat that you know, like I say, they

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Speaker 15: should have just started doing a tunnel exactly.

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Speaker 2: You enjoying this by the way, this Peme, not this specifically,

1181
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Speaker 2: but you know the running the country thing.

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Speaker 15: Well, I'm a libertarian, so one of the worst things

1183
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Speaker 15: that could happen to me is I could actually become

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00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,439
Speaker 15: the government I just want to point out I don't

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Speaker 15: actually think I'm running the country. Five point three million

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00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 15: New Zealanders running the country. We're running the government. And

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Speaker 15: that's just one organization in this country that I think

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00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 15: is far too large. It's up to everyone else to

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Speaker 15: get on and make the most of their lives in

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Speaker 15: this beautiful country.

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Speaker 2: Nice to see you, David Seymore getting Prime minister fourteen

1192
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:51,240
Speaker 2: to two costing breakfast eleven away from from Joe Biden's account,

1193
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 2: not the President's acount, Joe Biden's account. Here's the deal.

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00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 2: Here's the deal about j D Barnt. He talks a

1195
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 2: big game about working people, but now he and Trump

1196
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 2: want to raise taxes on middle class families while pushing

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Speaker 2: a text cuts for the rich. Well, I don't intend

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Speaker 2: to let them, and if you're with me, pitch in.

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Speaker 2: He's got to walk a very very careful line in

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Speaker 2: the next couple of days. Meantime, on the floor, he

1201
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 2: is Trump Junior.

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Speaker 16: Just some shock, but a lot of resolve. He was

1203
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 16: able to He was joking about it and talking about

1204
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 16: it in a way that only my father could do.

1205
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Speaker 16: But it was just that moment when he stood up

1206
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 16: after being shot at and just showed resolve to keep

1207
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Speaker 16: fighting for this country. That was everything for me. I

1208
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 16: just literally told him, I go, you're the biggest badass

1209
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 16: I know.

1210
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 2: And he is another Trump.

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Speaker 13: You know, under Donald Trump.

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Speaker 16: We actually had cheerleader in this country. We won't have

1213
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 16: cheerleader anymore.

1214
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 13: We didn't even have leadership.

1215
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Speaker 16: I mean, if the people aren't around, they're not president.

1216
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Speaker 13: The policy suck.

1217
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 16: We're gonna win this thing. Made no mistake about it.

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Speaker 2: How brilliant was David Seymour, Mike, that seamour makes some sense.

1219
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 2: How refreshing was David. There's still hope for us all well, Mike,

1220
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Speaker 2: that was a great statement. Five point three million New

1221
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 2: Zealanders running a country. I like that, Mike. If we

1222
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 2: get only find another one hundred and nineteen. David Seymour's

1223
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 2: just quickly. I didn't have time because it was his patch,

1224
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,919
Speaker 2: but we ran out. You know about Smith and Coey

1225
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 2: in Auckland, retail retailers and the doldrums in this country.

1226
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,959
Speaker 2: But yesterday in his particular area, Newmarket's an area within

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00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 2: his area. He's the MP for EPSOM, of course, but

1228
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:13,720
Speaker 2: new Markets within the EPSOM electorate Sportscraft going area fifty

1229
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 2: one going Smith and Coey's going SPQR Ponsonby going Sephora

1230
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 2: Downtown Auckland going. I mean you've got to ask yourself

1231
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 2: how ugly does it need to get before somebody somewhere

1232
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 2: pulls a trigger on interest rates. Speaking of which, more

1233
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 2: on that in the moment. Eleven away from eight my.

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Speaker 1: Costume Breakfast with Vida Retirement Communities news to b we.

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Speaker 2: Six away from another business story from the capital, this

1236
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 2: time yesterday it was Cranfield's, of course, in this crap

1237
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 2: of the council today it's the called of the appeal.

1238
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 2: They found Wellington Council followed the wrong processes when changing

1239
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 2: angled car parks to parallel one thissman going on for

1240
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,399
Speaker 2: a long time in Thornton Key. The result fewer car parks,

1241
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 2: of course. Chairmen of the Thornton Key Collector Paul Robinson

1242
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 2: is well, there's Paul, very good morning to you. Good life,

1243
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 2: so a nice one in the court. But they don't

1244
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 2: instruct anything. So, in other words, the council don't have

1245
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 2: to do anything. Do you think they will.

1246
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 22: Well, we're hopeful that they will agree to carry out

1247
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:11,359
Speaker 22: an independent review of their decision making processes.

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00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 2: The problem was the problem was they had public consultation,

1249
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,439
Speaker 2: and all that proves is that they don't care about

1250
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 2: public consultation because they went ahead and did what they

1251
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 2: want to do anyway, didn't.

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Speaker 22: They Well they did, they did. And you know, we

1253
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 22: have sort of three areas of real concerned. I mean,

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00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 22: the firstly is the safety data they relied on seemed

1255
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 22: to be heavily skewed. Secondly, they declined our petition back

1256
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Speaker 22: in twenty twenty one to have an economic assessment carried

1257
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 22: out of the impact of business. And thirdly, we've had

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Speaker 22: this issue come up with the one hundred and ten

1259
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 22: year old pipes underneath the underneath this very expensive infrastructure

1260
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 22: they're building, and it just seems to be in complete

1261
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Speaker 22: out of unwillingness look at it. Whether that's an issue

1262
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 22: or not. Are they incompetent, Well, they've demonstrated in competence.

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Speaker 2: Should it ever have got to court, I mean, for

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00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 2: God's sake, it's just the councilors and cowpas. Why does

1265
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 2: it end up in court?

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00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 22: That's a depressing thought. Mic. Back in twenty twelve, we

1267
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 22: had this wonderful interaction with counsel where we agreed that

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00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 22: it would be sensible to introduce the seven to nine

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00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 22: clearweight going into town and that reduced the incident rate

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00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 22: by fifty percent. And there's been no efforts since. Let's

1271
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 22: kept willing to moving come along, It's just been this

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00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 22: refusal to consider perhaps, say, for instance, introducing a four

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00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 22: to six clear way coming out of town in the night.

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00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 22: They could have resolved all these safety issues with a

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Speaker 22: few tens of thousands of dollars, not fifty eight million dollars.

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Speaker 2: It's unbelievable, isn't it. Well, go well with it, Paul,

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00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 2: and I hope the meeting goes well, and I hope

1278
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 2: they acquiesce and they apologize and actually sort the problem out.

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Speaker 2: Paul Robinson is with the thorlned and Key Collective chairman.

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Speaker 2: Should we sit aside team to wait each morning to

1281
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 2: do the dumb things Wellington Council's done over the last

1282
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Speaker 2: couple of years.

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Speaker 13: So we need a whole show today.

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Speaker 2: Can't get why I limited to teen to eight. Nick Cassidy,

1285
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 2: he's on the verge of something brilliant in London this weekend.

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00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 2: He's currently at home in Monaco. Ugh Life Nick Cassidy

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Speaker 2: Formula E After the News, which is next.

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Speaker 1: Your trusted source for news and fews, The Mic Hosking

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Speaker 2: Plast Day justin. By the way, the House Overside Committee

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Speaker 2: Chair James Comer, as opposed to Komi, has officially scheduled

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Speaker 2: a hearing on July twenty two over the attempt at assassination

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Speaker 2: of Donald Trumpet's entitle overside of the US Secret Service

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Speaker 2: and the attempt at assassination of President Donald J. Trump.

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Speaker 2: Coma says that the Secret Service Director Kierley Cheatle will

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Speaker 2: be a witness at the committee's hearing, among others, so

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Speaker 2: we will keep you posted on that when time comes.

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Speaker 2: Simmer minutes past eight, as I say, Formula E seasonal

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Speaker 2: wraps up this week in London or weekend at least

1300
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Speaker 2: in London like Indy, as we've been enjoying the last

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01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 2: couple of days. Dixon, McLachlan, Armstrong. You see them magnificently

1302
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Speaker 2: represented in the formulae. Nick Cassidy and Mitch Evans are

1303
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 2: currently one and two. So a good weekend in the

1304
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 2: title is ours basically anyway. Nick Cassidy is with us

1305
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Speaker 2: from his home in Monica.

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Speaker 7: Morning to you, good morning to you. How you feeling me?

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01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 2: Not at all? Great pleasure. How are you feeling heading

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Speaker 2: into this weekend?

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Speaker 9: I'm looking forward to it. It's the second year for

1310
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 9: me going into the final weekend with a chance and

1311
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Speaker 9: really a motorsport, that's what you can ask for.

1312
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Speaker 7: So I'm pretty pumped.

1313
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 2: And Portland take us through it, because you could have

1314
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 2: done it, it didn't happen. Does that sit heavily on

1315
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 2: your shoulders or not?

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Speaker 9: Alright, Look, it's never nice, you know. It's one of

1317
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 9: those weekends you walk away and go fire out. Did

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Speaker 9: that really happen? But sometimes that's part of the game,

1319
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Speaker 9: and it's made my life probably a bit more difficult

1320
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Speaker 9: than it needs to be going into London. But the

1321
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Speaker 9: job aheads still still the same job, and I think

1322
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Speaker 9: we can still get it done.

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Speaker 2: Take us through the season. For those who don't follow formularee.

1324
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 2: You've got your partner, your team and all that sort

1325
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 2: of stuff. How's the season gone for you? Obviously? Well,

1326
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Speaker 2: but take us through it in a bit more detail.

1327
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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's my first year joining j U TCS racing

1328
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 9: major manufacturer with inform Marie, so it's been a pretty

1329
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 9: big deal for me. And the season has been been

1330
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 9: really really good. You know, we've had a fair bit

1331
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 9: of success where we're leaving the championship now until last race,

1332
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 9: and you know, it's it's nice until this point, but

1333
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Speaker 9: obviously I'd like to be saying the same thing in

1334
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 9: a week's time.

1335
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Speaker 2: What's the title mean to you?

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01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 17: Uh?

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Speaker 9: Well, a lot as what we all what we all

1338
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 9: dream for and aimed for. But look, what happens is

1339
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 9: whatever happens happens, right, So that's mot sport and we'll

1340
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 9: give it up shot, but there's there's there's more things

1341
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 9: in life as well if it doesn't.

1342
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 2: And of course your your your teammate is sort of

1343
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 2: up the top there with you. What what are the

1344
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 2: riding instructions going into the final weekend when it comes

1345
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 2: to you know, getting tough on the corners and racing

1346
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 2: and all of that.

1347
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 9: I guess just just fair hard racing man, to be honest.

1348
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 9: It's it's been that way certainly the last couple of

1349
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 9: races and probably going to got to continue.

1350
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:31,479
Speaker 7: But but that's part of the game.

1351
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 2: Do we we get excited here obviously excuse me about

1352
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 2: New Zealand success, but but does the rest of the

1353
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 2: world I mean the fact that we've got two Kiwi's

1354
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 2: right up there in formula, you've got Scottie mac and

1355
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 2: Dixon and Armstrong, and the Indies and the States. You've

1356
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 2: got Liam testing in F one and RB twenty of gods,

1357
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 2: I mean, what what a great story for a tiny

1358
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 2: country is Is the world cognizant of that?

1359
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 9: To be honest, to be honest, it's unbelievable, right, I

1360
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 9: mean in New Zealand where we're of it. A lot

1361
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 9: of interviews that they mentioned myself do inform Marie and.

1362
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 7: In the media talking about.

1363
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 9: That, so everyone's aware and it's it's super damn cool

1364
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 9: for a small country like house exactly.

1365
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Speaker 2: You following Scotty Mack over the weekend.

1366
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Speaker 9: I'm watching the watching the IndyCar race right now and

1367
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 9: they're both they're both at the front, which is mega

1368
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 9: to see.

1369
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 2: Listen, just hold on, Nick, we'll come back to you.

1370
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 2: In my mind, took a bit more about Liam and

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Speaker 2: this coming weekend. I'll give you all the details on

1372
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 2: the formulae this weekend. What's required points wise, because a

1373
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 2: number of people could actually win despite the fact that

1374
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 2: Nick is number one anyway more in the moment eleven past.

1375
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Speaker 1: Eight, the Mike Hosking breakfasts.

1376
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Speaker 2: They're becoming a fourteen past eight Nick Cassidy with us

1377
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 2: out of Monaco ahead of this weekend's final two races

1378
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 2: and the formula and Racism, which of course he can

1379
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 2: seal the title. Anyway, Listen, before I forget Nick, you're associated,

1380
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,919
Speaker 2: we should explain this with Red Bull and Red Bull

1381
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 2: have got Liam of course, And I mean when you're

1382
01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 2: looking at lean, what's it like waiting, you know, for

1383
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 2: a driver, or or maybe not having a drive, or

1384
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 2: maybe there's politics, maybe there's an agenda. What's it like

1385
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 2: being in that situation.

1386
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 9: I've never really been in that situation myself, I must say,

1387
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 9: But yeah, watching with interest for him, I guess, like

1388
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 9: the rest of us, hoping that he is in a

1389
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 9: seat soon he obviously deserves to be. And when that happens,

1390
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 9: and hopefully that happens, I'm sure you're to a mega job.

1391
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 9: So looking forward to them being in full time and

1392
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 9: showing what he can do on a more permanent basis.

1393
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 2: A Red Bull of good operation. As far as you're concerned.

1394
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 9: You you can't doubt them, right with all the success

1395
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 9: that they've had as a brand firstly and then secondly

1396
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 9: as a race team is pretty damn impressive.

1397
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 2: As far as formula is concerned. That talk me through

1398
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 2: the evolution of it, because I mean, when you think

1399
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 2: about I would have said it was six or seven

1400
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:56,479
Speaker 2: years old, and it's actually coming up to ten years old.

1401
01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 2: How have the cars evolved? The technology, the driver ability

1402
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 2: and all of that.

1403
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 9: To be honest, Mike, I'm still quite new. I mean

1404
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 9: I'm four years and now up coming into my full season. Yeah,

1405
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 9: it's crazy to think that it is ten years old

1406
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 9: for a sport. Though ten years is quite a short time.

1407
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 9: It is quite a young young sports. Still, the cars

1408
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 9: have changed massively across that time. You know, the powers

1409
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 9: basically doubled, the regeneration, the links of the races. We're

1410
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 9: going to use one car now, which I think is

1411
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 9: much better from a viewing perspective, a racing format. But

1412
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 9: the future, to be honest, the next couple of years

1413
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 9: is going to be going to be quite exciting. Next

1414
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 9: year is full will drive on your full power mode.

1415
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 9: Three years time, you've got better tires, better aerodynamics and

1416
01:05:56,600 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 9: like over a thousand horse par basically coming. So I think, Yeah,

1417
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 9: the cars, you know, in a few years time will

1418
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 9: be quite impressive from a speed point of view, and

1419
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 9: I hope that that translates to being able to be

1420
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 9: able to see that when watching on TV, etc.

1421
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 2: So you're still arguing that the curve in terms of

1422
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 2: technology is exponential. In other words, each year brings something

1423
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 2: dramatic and new and improved.

1424
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I'm still I'm still a full on

1425
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 9: motorsport lover, you know, like I watch Full One, I

1426
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 9: watch watch Indy Car as a car, any any motorsport

1427
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 9: I can. But obviously being part of Ponrie can can

1428
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 9: see that that development coming and that's quite exciting as well,

1429
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 9: and especially I think from a the purest performance point

1430
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 9: of view, to be that quick and knowing that that's

1431
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 9: around the corner, I think it's quite exciting.

1432
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 2: Hey, did you get Auto Sport named you the eighth

1433
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 2: best driver of twenty twenty three year?

1434
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 9: Up with that, that was pretty cool. Obviously you want

1435
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 9: the World Championship next to your name, right, And we'll

1436
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 9: close last year, so let's see.

1437
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 7: Let's see what happens next weekend.

1438
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 2: And what about the weather in London. I'm told there's

1439
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 2: a heat wave coming and obviously you're having a very

1440
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 2: warm summer in your particular part of the world at

1441
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 2: the moment. Does any of that make any difference at

1442
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 2: all or not?

1443
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 9: That's the first I must say, that's the first bit

1444
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 9: of weather information I've had.

1445
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 7: I've just assumed UK, UK, London, we're going to have everything.

1446
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 7: So let's see what happens.

1447
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:33,919
Speaker 2: Apparently it's apparently it's going to be high twenties, So listen.

1448
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 2: All we can do is wish you all the very

1449
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 2: best for the weekend. Hope it goes well. It's obviously

1450
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 2: been a wonderful season, and we continue to follow you

1451
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 2: with a great deal of interest on this side of

1452
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 2: the world. But the very very best of luck.

1453
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 7: Thanks very much, much appreciated.

1454
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 2: All Right, we'll talk to Nick Cassidy out of Monica

1455
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 2: for us this morning. By the way, the Texas just

1456
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 2: said Mike, there are four keys in the top twenty.

1457
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 2: There are two different rankings. I'll run you through the

1458
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 2: rankings in just a couple of moments, because we're featured

1459
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:03,919
Speaker 2: extremely highly as regards the points I promised. So Nick's

1460
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 2: currently sitting first one hundred and sixty seven. Mitch Evans

1461
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 2: as one hundred and fifty five, so one and two

1462
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 2: wordline or verline is one hundred and fifty five as well,

1463
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 2: along with Mitch, and then you go back to DaCosta,

1464
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 2: who's one hundred and thirty four. The significance of that

1465
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 2: is that you get twenty five for a win top

1466
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 2: ten places all score points twenty five, eighteen fifteen, twelve

1467
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 2: to ten, et cetera, down to one point for coming tenth.

1468
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 2: So in theory there are six, maybe seven the top

1469
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 2: six maybe seven have a chance of winning it all

1470
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,679
Speaker 2: this weekend, so it's all to play for. But Nick Cassidy,

1471
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 2: for obvious reasons, goes in as favorite and we wish

1472
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 2: them well. Nineteen pasted the.

1473
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:44,040
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Speaker 2: the Auto sport I was referring to with Nick he's

1498
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 2: ranked eighth best driver in the world. The number one

1499
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 2: is for stappin Lando Norris's three Hamilton's six, Nick Cassidy eight.

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Speaker 2: I mean you're in fantastic company there. But then we've

1501
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 2: got the driver dB top one one hundred that the

1502
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 2: text was referring to. So we've got a lot of

1503
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 2: New Zealanders in this particular rud. There's five of them

1504
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 2: in fact, in the top one hundred. Once again for

1505
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:09,759
Speaker 2: stappens at the top as you would expect, but Scott

1506
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:12,799
Speaker 2: Dixon comes in at nine. They've got Shane Bean Gisberg

1507
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 2: and interestingly at eleven, Mitch Evans is sixteen. Scott McLaughlin's

1508
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 2: twenty neck won't be happy, he's only twenty eighth, and

1509
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 2: we've got Liam Lawson at ninety three. It's not done

1510
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,759
Speaker 2: a lot of racing so far this year for obvious reasons,

1511
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 2: although that with the next couple of Grand Prix and

1512
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 2: the summer break coming that might be about to change.

1513
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:33,599
Speaker 2: Mike regards the greens apparent lack of interest in pursuing

1514
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 2: the walker jumping option to ours Tana. Not forcing this

1515
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 2: issue appears to have no negative impact on their pole support,

1516
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 2: according to the latest Curier poll. A lot of people

1517
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 2: making that point, and it's a fair point to make,

1518
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 2: because they haven't they seem to oscillate between twelve and

1519
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 2: thirteen percent. But here's the major problem for them. You

1520
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:51,639
Speaker 2: may be right, they may be one of those parties

1521
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 2: where all the people who support them just couldn't care

1522
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 2: less about what goes. He You can bag of ons

1523
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 2: and crooks and you know, waywould waves and strays, and

1524
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 2: they don't care. It's the idea their voting. But what

1525
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 2: Chloe wants, I think delusionally, and what she speaks up

1526
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 2: very publicly, is she believes the Greens can overtake the

1527
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 2: Labour Party as the voice of the left and other words,

1528
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:11,679
Speaker 2: become She says they're going to be the major party

1529
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 2: of the left. They will never be that. They can

1530
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 2: never be that if they continue to behave the way

1531
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 2: they are. My two reasons retail downturn are both involving

1532
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 2: the government. One allowing China to flood our market with

1533
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 2: cheap goods by a TEAMU. Let me come back to that,

1534
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 2: because you're wrong. Two failure to address law and order,

1535
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 2: making it unsafe to be a retailer. Ramrads Glenn that

1536
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 2: parts I would like to think is getting better. But

1537
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 2: I take your point. The first point, the government has

1538
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 2: nothing to do with Timu. The government is not in

1539
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:41,839
Speaker 2: the business of going to Timu or you on TikTok,

1540
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 2: or you on Facebook, or you anywhere online and saying

1541
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 2: no you can. It's like saying, well, we're only going

1542
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 2: to open trade me between twelve and two, so you

1543
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 2: can go down to a bricks and watshop. They don't

1544
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 2: do that. Governments don't dictate where the team is allowed

1545
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 2: to operate. Team is international. But you're right to the

1546
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 2: extent that if you're looking at the spending and the

1547
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 2: spending number, along with the inflation numbers, along with the

1548
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 2: most importantly the GDP numbers that came out the other day,

1549
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 2: where the expenditure was, and if you looked at the

1550
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 2: expenditure we were doing, it was an area's offshore. And

1551
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 2: everyone went, we'll hold on. Suddenly all this money's going

1552
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 2: off shore. Where was it? They drilled down and the

1553
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 2: answers TEAMU and all of those other allegedly, we're saving

1554
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 2: the planet and the world, and we don't like slave labor,

1555
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:25,639
Speaker 2: and we don't like buying cheap crap from overseas. Not true.

1556
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:27,640
Speaker 2: We love it. We can't get enough of it. So

1557
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 2: it is true to that extent. But the government's never

1558
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 2: going to allow it or not allowed it, because that

1559
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 2: unfortunately is not how it works. By the way, just

1560
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 2: to bring you up to speed on a little fun

1561
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 2: thing that's happening in Australia. They've got a lot of

1562
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 2: problems here of course, in the media, in the mainstream

1563
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 2: media in terms of television at the moment. You'll be

1564
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 2: well aware of it and use Hub's demise and stuff

1565
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 2: picking that up and running with it, and TV one

1566
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 2: or TV ins losing money hand over fist, they've got

1567
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 2: the same troubles in Australia. So basically, as far as

1568
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 2: I can work out, seven, nine and ten are all

1569
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:00,719
Speaker 2: laying off people and have been laying off people brighton Center.

1570
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 2: They've all got ratings problems, none of the programs right

1571
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 2: the way they used to because we're all watching television

1572
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 2: in other forms and ways and means television Channel seven

1573
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:10,799
Speaker 2: has the answer as far as their news is concerned,

1574
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:12,639
Speaker 2: and how long can it be before they do it

1575
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 2: and we'll see it here on either one or stuff

1576
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 2: one or the other. So as of last night they've

1577
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 2: got a couple well that Friday was their first new

1578
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 2: segment at three minutes away from seven just before the

1579
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 2: end of the bulletin, they have a comedy slot, so

1580
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 2: they've got a comedian coming in with three minutes of funnies.

1581
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 2: And the moment you say anything's going to be funny,

1582
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 2: You've just shot yourself on the foot because it never is.

1583
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 2: And of course you can imagine what happened on Friday

1584
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:35,639
Speaker 2: in terms of the reviews, but last night was there

1585
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 2: was their master's stroke and no one's thought of this.

1586
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 2: And what they're doing is astro Tash. Astrotash is a

1587
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:45,679
Speaker 2: person called Natasha Webber. So what they're featuring in the

1588
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 2: in the main news bulletin on Channel seven as of

1589
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 2: last night is horoscopes. So they've got a little funny

1590
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:54,760
Speaker 2: on Friday just to finish the week, and then they've

1591
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 2: got a regular horoscope section because news is more than

1592
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 2: about well news.

1593
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 13: I'd rather that though, than three sections of weather.

1594
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:08,600
Speaker 2: See that's why they're onto it, Glynn. Not everyone's a

1595
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 2: visionary like your good self and Channel seven News for

1596
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 2: you next, and then we'll go to rod in Britain

1597
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 2: here on the Mike Hosking Breakfast.

1598
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:20,600
Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. The

1599
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real estate doing real estate

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01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 1: differently since nineteen seventy three news togs.

1601
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 2: Had been Monnie Michael looked at Fox Club Farm yesterday.

1602
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 2: Just beautiful. That's a bit of you and Kate I thought,

1603
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 2: Ross you could. I couldn't agree with you more. Absolutely delightful.

1604
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 2: If you missed it, we were talking about a place

1605
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 2: that was for sale next to Jeremy Clarkson House this

1606
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 2: time yesterday, Mike, great show. Just to let you know,

1607
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 2: we also have a new world champion, Levi Townley, are

1608
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 2: competing in the FAM World Motocross event over the weekend,

1609
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 2: follow Bundy Kevan Hoven who's finished second in the class

1610
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 2: as well. We're the only country with two on the podium.

1611
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 2: Over three hundred from around the world competed in these titles,

1612
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 2: so that's good to know as well. Twenty three to.

1613
01:14:56,479 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 19: Nine International correspondence with ends and I insure peace of

1614
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 19: mind for New Zealand business.

1615
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 2: Well yeah, UK bound, Rob Littlebury, money to you.

1616
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 11: Good morning to you.

1617
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 2: Mate, And since we have last talked and having had

1618
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 2: a week's holiday, I haven't had a chance to disssect

1619
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 2: the election, which was pretty much as you called it. It

1620
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 2: was like having seen that just quickly on the MMP

1621
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 2: thing versus FPP. Look at the number of seats they

1622
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:20,719
Speaker 2: got versus the thirty seven percent of the vote. There's

1623
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:22,639
Speaker 2: something wrong with that system, isn't there.

1624
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 11: There's something totally wrong with the system. I mean it's

1625
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 11: it's no one Wi grutt its labor a victory. Everybody

1626
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 11: was sick of the Conservative Party, even quite a lot

1627
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 11: of Conservatives as it happens. But to get that number

1628
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 11: of seats, you know, this massive, massive majority on a

1629
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 11: lower proportion of the vote than Jeremy Corbyn got in

1630
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 11: twenty seventeen, it's bizarre. I mean it's bizarre. And the

1631
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 11: Liberal Democrats, you know, they get seventy odd seats with

1632
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 11: fourteen percent of the vote. I think Reform got either

1633
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 11: thirteen fifteen I forget now and ended up with five.

1634
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:05,759
Speaker 11: I mean, it is an absurdity. First past the post

1635
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:09,839
Speaker 11: works when there's just two parties in it. It doesn't

1636
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:11,919
Speaker 11: work when there's a multiplicity of parties.

1637
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 2: Now, as regards the Tories, what do they do now?

1638
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,720
Speaker 2: Brushy's gone, of course of going and so where do

1639
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 2: they go? Who do they pick? How does that process work?

1640
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 2: And how long does it take?

1641
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:24,679
Speaker 11: I've been talking to quite a few of them. There's

1642
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 11: quite a few, both defenestrated Conservative MPs and ones who

1643
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 11: have been re elected who think they need to make

1644
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:35,640
Speaker 11: an accommodation with the Reform Party, and this would be

1645
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 11: along the lines of an alliance of the right, as

1646
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 11: the sophologist Matthew Goodwin has put it, a historic realignment,

1647
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 11: so that suddenly the Conservative Party and Reform are as

1648
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:50,560
Speaker 11: one and are pushed out a bit to the margins,

1649
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 11: but with an awful lot of popular vote. Then there

1650
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,680
Speaker 11: are the one nation Tories. Now, I don't think they

1651
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 11: have a lect to stand on because there is very

1652
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 11: little clear blue water between what they argue for and

1653
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 11: what the Labor Party argues for. And whilst they say,

1654
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 11: you know, the Tory Party has always had its best

1655
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 11: when it's a one nation party from the center that

1656
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 11: is not bought out by the electoral statistics, because Tory

1657
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 11: parties which have come from the right of one in

1658
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 11: seventy nine, eighty three, eighty seven, twenty nineteen and very

1659
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 11: rarely win from the center because they need those working

1660
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 11: class votes. So at the moment, where are we with

1661
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:32,640
Speaker 11: the Conservative leadership. Nobody is looking forward to the Conservative

1662
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:36,639
Speaker 11: leadership election because it will usually be a bitch fest

1663
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 11: and nasty and remind us all of the people who

1664
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 11: used to run us. But Kenny Badernock is out in

1665
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 11: front of the moment. There's a strong showing from Tom Tuganhat,

1666
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 11: who is kind of liberal but quite open minded. There's

1667
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 11: also a fairly strong showing from Suella Brabman, but she

1668
01:17:56,920 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 11: doesn't play well for some reason with the public. I

1669
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 11: think if there was a vote tomorrow, the right would

1670
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 11: win it. The thing is that the person who's at

1671
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 11: the front in a Tory leadership contest never actually wins,

1672
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 11: so that's something kemy ort to be beware of.

1673
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 2: Now. I've been doing a lot of reading about this

1674
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:17,919
Speaker 2: new government of yours, and they've got eight key plans apparently,

1675
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 2: including finding cash for windpower and helping first buyers into

1676
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 2: the housing market and all sorts of They're going to

1677
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 2: let some people out of jail. Are they in a

1678
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 2: honeymoon A two part question. One can they do all

1679
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 2: of this? Two? Are they in a honeymoon period?

1680
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 11: I think they're probably can do quite a bit of it,

1681
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 11: And yes, they're in a honeymoon period that I would

1682
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 11: suggest for a year or two. You know, this is

1683
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:41,879
Speaker 11: going to be a long honeymoon period. So for example,

1684
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 11: today we had announced a massive light transit system for Leeds.

1685
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 11: Leeds is the only country of its it's the only

1686
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 11: city of its size in Europe which doesn't have a

1687
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:57,599
Speaker 11: mass transit system. You know, it's a really important city.

1688
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 11: It's up in the north of England, just ab and

1689
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 11: it deserves a mass transit system and that has now

1690
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 11: been announced. It will be a tram which will go

1691
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 11: to Bradford, take you down to Kirkleas and so on.

1692
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 11: And that's really what leveling up should have been about

1693
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 11: but never was. So that's a huge markup for the

1694
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 11: Labor Party there. I think they've got to get at

1695
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:23,519
Speaker 11: grips with energy. I think they've got to build a

1696
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 11: few nuclear power stations and I think they can do that.

1697
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 11: We're already hearing very good things from west Street in

1698
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 11: who is the Labor Health spokesman. Are properly reforming the

1699
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 11: NHS in a way that the Toys kind of couldn't

1700
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:41,719
Speaker 11: get away with. And he's also said that puberty blockers

1701
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 11: will continue to be banned for people under the age

1702
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 11: of eighteen. All of this plays very well with the public.

1703
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 11: I've got to say, I think the holleymoon will be

1704
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:51,680
Speaker 11: a longish one.

1705
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 2: Quick word on the football yesterday. This time yesterday, I

1706
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 2: didn't think they looked likely in the game at all.

1707
01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 2: Really to Southgate go what happens now?

1708
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 11: My guess is Southgate won't go, which will annoy an

1709
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 11: awful lot of people, but not his friends in the

1710
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:10,680
Speaker 11: sporting sections of the media. He's been found wanting at

1711
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 11: every time England have come up against a very good team. Now,

1712
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 11: most people would be found out coming up against Spain,

1713
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 11: Spain with the deserved winners, and there's no question about that.

1714
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:25,799
Speaker 11: But England waited until the seventy fifth minutes before they attacked,

1715
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:30,879
Speaker 11: and you know that's been the story of his entire regime.

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01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 11: I think the best possible option is he gets knighted,

1717
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 11: everyone says thank you very very much and he goes.

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01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:43,640
Speaker 11: If possible, If that could happen, I would be a

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01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 11: happy man.

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01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:46,719
Speaker 2: Well we're after that, Rod go, Well we'll see Thursday.

1721
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 2: Rod a little out of Britain. By the way, my

1722
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:50,639
Speaker 2: reference to the eight key plan is pretty good piece

1723
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 2: by the BBC comprehensive piece the other day as to

1724
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 2: what their key plans are and how achievable or not

1725
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 2: they are. They've got the asylum seeker backlog, they've got

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01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 2: people in the first time. As I mentioned, water bills

1727
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 2: is a major issue, but this prisoner release thing fascinates me.

1728
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:08,599
Speaker 2: Thousands of them are going to be released early as

1729
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 2: of the start of September. Mahmood Sabana mum Mud is

1730
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 2: the new Justice secretary. Total collapse of the prison system

1731
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 2: and you always read into a little bit of that,

1732
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 2: of course what they want you to hear, because it's politics.

1733
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 2: But they're claiming a total collapse of the prison system,

1734
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:25,640
Speaker 2: total breakdown of law and order without urgent action to

1735
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 2: ease the prison overcrowding. Under the plan, prisoners will be

1736
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 2: released after they have served forty percent of their sentence

1737
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:34,759
Speaker 2: in England and Wales rather than the regular fifty percent,

1738
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 2: so more people back on the streets. So it will

1739
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 2: be interesting to see how that plays. Sixteen to two

1740
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 2: the myke costing breakfast, but ting away from mine, do

1741
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 2: we forget the King and the Queen for not coming here.

1742
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 2: They're going to Australia, going to Sama. They've got to

1743
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:49,839
Speaker 2: go to Sama because if they went to New Zealand

1744
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 2: and Australia. The Pacific isarlmds are going England, so they

1745
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 2: got to go to Australia because they're bigger than us.

1746
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:59,679
Speaker 2: They're skipping Melbourne. They're scaled down in Australia, Canberra, Sydney,

1747
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 2: only keepping Melbourne before going off to the Chogger meeting

1748
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 2: in summer. So I suppose I suppose we forgive them

1749
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,559
Speaker 2: poll out by the way, it was done July second,

1750
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 2: so a little time ago when JD Vance was the

1751
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:15,599
Speaker 2: whisper so see and in conduct of the poll, and

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01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 2: they asked the question whether people like jd vancetow this

1753
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 2: was Republican or Republican leaning voters, do you like JD Vance?

1754
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 2: Twenty three percent had a favorable view, eight percent had

1755
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 2: an unfavorable view. Not surprisingly, perhaps fifty percent had never

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01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 2: heard of him because he's just from a state, and

1757
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 2: generally speaking, people don't follow a great deal about what's

1758
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 2: going on in the state unless they live in the state.

1759
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 2: So fifty percent had never heard of them. So he's

1760
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 2: got a chance to win. His wave might recommend the book,

1761
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:45,680
Speaker 2: so hey, reading a book, you'll love me never heard

1762
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 2: of him, but didn't had heard of him but never

1763
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 2: had an opinion nineteen so between never heard of him,

1764
01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 2: plus heard of him but didn't have an opinion. That's

1765
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 2: sixty nine percent. So he's got a little bit of

1766
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:57,680
Speaker 2: work to do. Exercise for the day if you want to,

1767
01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 2: if you can be bothered. Herald's going on the story

1768
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 2: about the Auckland Transport chief executive Dean Kimpton, who happens

1769
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 2: also or happened also to be a director of a

1770
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 2: company awarded hundreds of thousands of dollars of eighty contracts.

1771
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 2: So there's your story. Wayne Brown gave them the clickbait

1772
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 2: they wanted, which he said, it's not a goodlock. So

1773
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 2: they go, Wayne, what are you reckon about this? Again?

1774
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 2: Not a good lock, and so that's your headline. So,

1775
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:23,599
Speaker 2: having read the story in totality, so is this guy

1776
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 2: this is my does it pass the sniff test? So

1777
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 2: the Auckland Transport chief executive, he happens to be the

1778
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 2: director of a company. That company's awarded hundreds of thousands

1779
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 2: of dollars worth of contracts as far as hundreds of

1780
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 2: thousands of dollars. The company is called Blue Barn Consulting.

1781
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 2: By the way, he was a director between the beginning

1782
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:45,639
Speaker 2: of April twenty twenty one and the end of June

1783
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 2: this year when he left the job. I suspect when

1784
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 2: people started asking questions. Since he began in the top job,

1785
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 2: Blue Barn has been awarded twenty contracts worth eight hundred

1786
01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 2: and thirty seven two hundred and ninety three dollars. That's

1787
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 2: between April of la last year in January thirty one

1788
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 2: of this year. So the question is does it pass

1789
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:08,639
Speaker 2: the stifties? Now the important thing, and this is my concern.

1790
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 2: It is up to you. But this is part of

1791
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:11,720
Speaker 2: the problem with the media these days. They paint a

1792
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 2: picture there where there's something a little bit a rye,

1793
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:20,600
Speaker 2: And after reading all of this and concluding it's not

1794
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:24,800
Speaker 2: a rye at all. In fact, at all points in

1795
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:27,360
Speaker 2: the story, the fact he was the director of this

1796
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 2: particular company, I don't know. This guing from Barasop. By

1797
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 2: the way, I'm not defending him, because no, I've never

1798
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 2: heard of him, don't know, I don't care. But after

1799
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 2: reading the detail of the story, at all points was

1800
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 2: the so called conflict of interest. It was declared people

1801
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:43,560
Speaker 2: knew who he was, they knew he had a directorship,

1802
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 2: and there seems to be and I might be open

1803
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 2: to correction on this. After leaving Auckland Council in mid

1804
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen after six years a Chief Operating Officer, Kempton

1805
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 2: worked as a consultant to infrastructure and construction sector. So

1806
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 2: in other words, this is his area of expertise and

1807
01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:00,720
Speaker 2: he appears to have come back into the job. So

1808
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 2: the AT job was for a fixed term agreement of

1809
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 2: eighteen months. So guys at the Auckland Council Chief Operating

1810
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 2: Officer leaves, goes back to his old world, which is

1811
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 2: infrastructure and construction sectors. He's on the board of this

1812
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 2: particular company. He has no financial interest in the company,

1813
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:19,800
Speaker 2: by the way, but he's on the board. They then

1814
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:21,720
Speaker 2: come up with his AT job for him. So it's

1815
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 2: a fixed term for eighteen months. He's on the board,

1816
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 2: he declares it, all decisions around it are declared. Everybody

1817
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 2: knows where they're at. Do we have a scandal? I

1818
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:33,599
Speaker 2: call beat up? It's my call on the Herald story today.

1819
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 2: It's a beat up. But you read it and make

1820
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 2: your own mind up. Nine Away from nine.

1821
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 1: All the Mike Costing Breakfast with famis real estate newstalksb.

1822
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 2: Depends on how many contracts in total. We're given twenty

1823
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 2: out of twenty not good, twenty out of five hundred.

1824
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 2: Ok ye're not a bad point. But once again I

1825
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 2: read it, read it, make make up your old mind.

1826
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 2: Now on the floor, here he comes, here's JD.

1827
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:00,639
Speaker 1: Sit it any bell blood?

1828
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 2: This isn't the singer for singing a one in the world.

1829
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 11: That start.

1830
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:13,639
Speaker 2: He's just wondering and he's having people. He's high five

1831
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 2: and two. His wife's next to him, looking all American

1832
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 2: and good and right crazy am I alone? And saying

1833
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:25,720
Speaker 2: that there aren't very many Americans in high office who

1834
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 2: have beards. When was the last one? Was it Lincoln

1835
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:32,599
Speaker 2: red Well?

1836
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:36,559
Speaker 13: Apparently Trump famously doesn't like facial hair, which is weird

1837
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:37,679
Speaker 13: given both his sons.

1838
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 2: Well that's what happens with you say I don't.

1839
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:42,800
Speaker 13: So there was a lot of talk biods. There was

1840
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 13: a lot of talk that j D wouldn't be in

1841
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 13: the running because he's got that he's going to bear.

1842
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 2: Could it be that?

1843
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 13: But maybe he went him over with his eyeliner?

1844
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 2: But did he? Is it possible also that the two

1845
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 2: sons beards plus JD's beard indicates that the thought that

1846
01:26:57,479 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 2: Trump doesn't like facial here is in fact not true

1847
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 2: why and also loves spacial.

1848
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 13: We've heard a lot of talk over the last few

1849
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 13: hours that he's had ever real come to Jesus as well,

1850
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 13: and the lad he thought he was Jesus close call,

1851
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 13: This was j J stood for Jesus. Yeah, maybe he's

1852
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 13: changed his opinion on a lot of things.

1853
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 2: Heyesus vance from Ohio just checked out he didn't come

1854
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:17,600
Speaker 2: across the border from a mental institution, but once he

1855
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 2: cleared that, he was all good to go. Also goes

1856
01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 2: the story. Five minutes away from nine trending.

1857
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:26,560
Speaker 1: Now were Chemist Well's keeping Kiwi's healthy.

1858
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 2: All year round. Ryan Reynolds, Hugh Jackman. They're on their

1859
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:31,719
Speaker 2: press too. Are currently for Dead Pull and Wo Wolverine,

1860
01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:34,320
Speaker 2: which is out July twenty five. They did an interview

1861
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:37,759
Speaker 2: with an internet personality. I used that word loosely, Ossie Man.

1862
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:40,560
Speaker 2: They talked about nicknames and Reynolds says he's got a

1863
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 2: nickname because he does he does my party trick.

1864
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 12: Well, welcome back to Inside the down Under Actors Studio

1865
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:49,720
Speaker 12: Noldsy I'm giving you the Australian nickname this time as well.

1866
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 11: Like Reynolds, Noles, nolsy.

1867
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:56,920
Speaker 1: Unless you've got a nickling with Jacko only Jack.

1868
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 19: Nevergart nickname didn't.

1869
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 2: He's pretty good out Well.

1870
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 14: I got Casper all the.

1871
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 1: Time because well because you know me, at a party,

1872
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 1: I will a ghost gone.

1873
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 14: You know, I will walk in.

1874
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 16: Sometimes I've done a party where I walk through the

1875
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:14,439
Speaker 16: front door and I just carry on straight out the back.

1876
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 19: Can you be technically ghosting if you don't ever turn up?

1877
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:21,080
Speaker 14: That's yeah, that's true too, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1878
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:21,639
Speaker 2: Quality.

1879
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:24,479
Speaker 13: It seems like you and and Ryan have got a

1880
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:26,680
Speaker 13: lot in common act Ryan. In fact, my nickname for

1881
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 13: you had been more like eighty.

1882
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 2: What's there?

1883
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:31,559
Speaker 13: Well, it's like the public transport that just never turns.

1884
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:36,200
Speaker 2: Up, completely unreliable and never there when you need them.

1885
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 2: All words to that effect, Mike, Americans are weird. Look

1886
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 2: what a way to win the program. You can't really

1887
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 2: argue with that, can you? Middle of the week Back

1888
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 2: at six am for the Wednesday morning edition to the

1889
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:49,799
Speaker 2: Mike Hosking Breakfast. Will see you then, as always, Happy days, hard.

1890
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:55,760
Speaker 11: Don't back love me too.

1891
01:28:56,640 --> 01:29:02,759
Speaker 22: This time WestEd you are right there all alone.

1892
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:08,960
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01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:12,160
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