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Speaker 1: Ryan. The problem is everyone wants the government to do something,

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Speaker 1: but no one can say what the something is. Rod

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Speaker 1: is a case in point. That's Rod Duke, who's the

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Speaker 1: brisco's boss. Just on the program, he said the government

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Speaker 1: needs to get its a enter g. That's the polite

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Speaker 1: way of saying it, paraphrasing. But what exactly that means.

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Speaker 1: No one's really certain of, are they? And the IMF

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Speaker 1: actually has some thoughts on this. I'll tell you what

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Speaker 1: they think. Caution it's boring, but I'll tell you what

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Speaker 1: they think. And predictable later on in the program right now,

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Speaker 1: never boring, never predictable Darcy water Graves or us.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Darcy, mind you that's great saying from back in

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Speaker 2: the day. Don't just do something. Stand there, that's what

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Speaker 2: we've got. Hey, I'm here to talk about sport, nothing else.

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Speaker 1: Let's stick to that, shall we?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Ends it up. I saw this story yesterday and I

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Speaker 1: was intrigued. So they're looking at making some changes to

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Speaker 1: junior rugby. Year eight will go from fifteen to thirteen

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Speaker 1: a side, year seven to ten aside.

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Speaker 2: And they're going to have some time smaller fields. They're

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Speaker 2: basically trying to simplify the grassroots of the game. We're

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Speaker 2: going to be joined by Mike Hester tonight her participation

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Speaker 2: at NZ talking about what they're trying to put in place. Now,

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Speaker 2: these are proposals, and they're running them through the clubs,

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Speaker 2: and they're running them past everybody concerns, as parents, school kids, coaches,

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Speaker 2: the whole lot, because they want to retain players and

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Speaker 2: they want players to enjoy the game from a younger

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Speaker 2: age because once you get your hooks into them when

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Speaker 2: they're young, you keep them for a long time.

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Speaker 1: So hasn't it sort of worked with ripper rugby.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you've got to progress through the stages till

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Speaker 2: he become full blown adult players with full tackle, full scrums,

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Speaker 2: full lineouts. And part of the issue with this here

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Speaker 2: is that players at a younger age get pigeonholed into

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Speaker 2: roles that they probably don't need to be and like

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Speaker 2: this short, fat kid becomes a prop at eight. What

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Speaker 2: they want to do is have all of the young

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Speaker 2: players experience the full gamut of rugby and what it means.

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Speaker 2: So you run and you pass, and your kick and

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Speaker 2: you tackle, and you have fun with your mates, and

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Speaker 2: then you start solidifying your role as you get older,

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Speaker 2: and you start understanding the game a lot, So you.

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Speaker 1: Make the team smaller so that everyone gets to do

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Speaker 1: a bit more of everything.

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Speaker 2: Everybody can do a way a bit more.

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Speaker 1: I'm not against that, of you against it. I think

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Speaker 1: there'll be people who have an allergic reaction to.

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Speaker 2: That, or there will be I think the elephant in

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Speaker 2: the room around participation, though, is concussion, and that's something

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Speaker 2: that has to be addressed. And we'll talk to Mike

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Speaker 2: about that, because there's something they're acutely aware of as

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Speaker 2: mums and dads not one of their kids playing the

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Speaker 2: game because they're afraid of that.

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Speaker 1: So do you get injured?

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Speaker 2: What about the safety that comes into this as well?

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Speaker 2: And I suppose with less players, bigger, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: we talk about it anyway.

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Speaker 1: You get injured in golf though, don't you look at

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Speaker 1: Tiger Woods?

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Speaker 2: Was that golf Tiger?

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Speaker 1: What happened?

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Speaker 2: It could have been a car accident. I mean, you

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Speaker 2: could have slipped on a sock. He climbed out of

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Speaker 2: his bed. I don't know. In a hurry, I'm getting

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Speaker 2: out of here. Well, I don't know. He's got an

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Speaker 2: achilles He hit a pop apparently hit and on the goals. No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: it's just cruising. It wasn't on the golf something, so

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Speaker 2: might not come to the Masters. I suppose it's not

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Speaker 2: already an issue because everybody he can decide when they

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Speaker 2: want to retire. But you look at the way Tiger

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Speaker 2: is saying on for grim Dead, I'm not going anywhere.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going anywhere. Kind of your body's falling apart. Mate,

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Speaker 2: Maybe you should just like cut yourself some slack and

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Speaker 2: maybe turn up the Masters every now and then. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's got nothing left to prove, bro. But again, that's

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Speaker 2: his decision. It's his life, and if he wants to

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Speaker 2: keep you can get to the Seniors if he wants,

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Speaker 2: and get beaten by Steven Elkert.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Sir Jim Redcliffe very quickly says he's got no money,

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Speaker 1: and then he's spent How much has he spent on

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Speaker 1: the stadium.

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Speaker 2: The stadium is proposed to cost two billion pounds, so

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Speaker 2: about four point five billion New Zealand dollars. Let's not

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Speaker 2: forget that Manchester Night. Is this where this new stadium

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Speaker 2: is going to be next to old Trafford? Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: don't know if it's going to be called New Trafford

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Speaker 2: or not. I won't take that was Matt Heath from

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Speaker 2: previously apparently there in the hole for a billion round.

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Speaker 1: I know the difference is this is this would be

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Speaker 1: capital expenditure, wouldn't it as opposed to just you know,

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Speaker 1: throwing money at some some sponsorship.

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Speaker 2: Right, So that million dollars and you're talking about billions

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Speaker 2: and billions, mate, just stick your hand on the bag

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Speaker 2: of the couch, give us that money. Will go away.

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