1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Heller duple c al THEIG Infrastructure conference in Wellington today, 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: National and Labor have been making all the right noises 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: on bipartisanship plans and long term projects that have cross 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: party support and blah blah. The Herald's Wellington Business editor 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: g Native Shraney's been listening to them as with us. Now, Hello, jenay, Hey, 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: So it's Kieren McNulty and Chris Bishop. Is it making 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: the bipartisanship noises? 8 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. The conference ended with those two on stage. 9 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: They had matching shoes, which was pointed out because they 10 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: have somewhat of a bromance. They actually get along quite well. 11 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: I'm Karen and Chris Bishop. So they really told the 12 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 2: audience what they wanted to hear, which was that you know, 13 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: the two parties could work together agree on key things 14 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 2: around infrastructure. The sector is crying out for certainty, you know, 15 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 2: that's what's required to have long term investment and so on. 16 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: So Karen McNulty confirmed that Labor would honor all public 17 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: private partnership contracts the government entered into. So you know, 18 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: he said they weren't. Labor wasn't opposed to PPPs, but 19 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: of course if promises hadn't been funded, that might be 20 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: a different story. Chris Bishop, he tooked up how he 21 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 2: was quote continuing Phil Twyford's legacy in the urban development space. 22 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 2: So actually Chris Bishop and Phil Twyford are very aligned 23 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 2: with you know ways they want to change rules to 24 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 2: encourage private investments. He talked about that, and then Chris 25 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: Bishop also said he's been briefing opposition in ps to 26 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: get their two cents on work underway as part of 27 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: the RIMA. So those were the areas they sort of highlighted. 28 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: A gat nice to say these things, but does it 29 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 1: actually last. 30 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's the key question. And you know, this 31 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: morning Chris Hipkins addressed the conference and the oil and 32 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: gas ban is the prime example. So if Labor gets 33 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: into government, it will reintroduce the oil and gas ban. Yeah, 34 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: you know, and I I asked him. I said, well, 35 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: because Labor makes the argument that doesn't really matter because 36 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: no one wants to explore in New Zealand anyway, Like 37 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: we've sort of taken all the gas that's easy to 38 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 2: take and no one's looking to really do major exploration. 39 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: So I said, well, if that's the case, then why 40 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: do we need the band, because if they're not going 41 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 2: to do it anyway, why have the band? It sort 42 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: of just creates instability and sovereign risk and so on 43 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 2: and so on. But you know, labor, that is something 44 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 2: that it feels firm on. So you know, there's an 45 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: example of you know, of them not doing what sector want, 46 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: which is provide certainty. You know. Chrishipkins also said the 47 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 2: government talks about bipartisanship, but they just want labor to 48 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: get on board with what they want. They're not truly engaging. 49 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 2: So you know, and then I guess if you point 50 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: the finger at Chris Bishop, he national did agree with 51 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: Labor on the medium density residential standards. Those are the 52 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: ones that mean you can densify more easily. So they 53 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: agreed in opposition. They get into government and they and 54 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: they pull out of that commitment. So you know, politicians 55 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: will politicians. 56 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: Was cheap. What were the shoes I. 57 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: Think they were They were brown boots like stuff. Yeah, 58 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: I couldn't tell if they were that fancy from where 59 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: I was sitting, but you know they were. It was 60 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: interesting actually with those two on stage, they sounded very 61 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: sensible and you did, you did look at them and 62 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,839 Speaker 2: think they could be too. You know two people who 63 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: who the public warm too, and I think, what. 64 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: Are you trying to say? They could be leadership potential. 65 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: Well, I didn't want to go that fast. 66 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: It's fine. I had Thomas problem went that far. He 67 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: went that far on Saturday by basically starting the clock 68 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: on lux And so I think we can start talking 69 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: about this kind of stuff, don't you think. Hey, thank 70 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: you very much, Jane, As always, jenetive Trainey. 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