1 00:00:06,707 --> 00:00:10,547 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,747 --> 00:00:12,107 Speaker 1: from Newstalks. 3 00:00:11,627 --> 00:00:16,027 Speaker 2: Edb humiliation for the Black Camps yesterday beaten by eighty 4 00:00:16,107 --> 00:00:19,267 Speaker 2: four runs by Afghanistan and their T twenty Cricket World 5 00:00:19,307 --> 00:00:22,347 Speaker 2: Cup opener in Guyana. 6 00:00:22,907 --> 00:00:26,147 Speaker 3: That is higher in the air the keepers after there's 7 00:00:26,187 --> 00:00:30,987 Speaker 3: a fielder underneath. The catcher's taken and fittingly comes on 8 00:00:31,387 --> 00:00:36,507 Speaker 3: for Aki gets the final wickets to end with seventeen 9 00:00:38,067 --> 00:00:42,827 Speaker 3: history in governor as Afghanistan beats New Zealand for the 10 00:00:42,867 --> 00:00:46,107 Speaker 3: first time in teen twenty international cricket. 11 00:00:47,707 --> 00:00:51,227 Speaker 4: So so well deserved as well, curriem j underneath the catch. 12 00:00:52,307 --> 00:00:54,947 Speaker 4: They deserve every bit of it. They have simply been 13 00:00:55,027 --> 00:00:59,387 Speaker 4: outstanding tonight. They have outplayed New Zealand. They will be 14 00:00:59,427 --> 00:01:01,947 Speaker 4: over the moon with that performance. Tournament not done yet, 15 00:01:01,947 --> 00:01:04,627 Speaker 4: it's not one here and now, but boy, they have 16 00:01:04,787 --> 00:01:05,667 Speaker 4: sent a message. 17 00:01:05,787 --> 00:01:09,107 Speaker 2: And you getting nowhere near Afghanistan's total of one p 18 00:01:09,227 --> 00:01:13,187 Speaker 2: fifty nine for six, which seemed very gettable between innings 19 00:01:13,387 --> 00:01:17,947 Speaker 2: bowled out for seventy five inside sixteen overs. To pick 20 00:01:17,987 --> 00:01:20,587 Speaker 2: over the bones of that, let's bring in multi award 21 00:01:20,627 --> 00:01:25,147 Speaker 2: winning sports writer editor of the excellent subscription Sports newsletter 22 00:01:25,547 --> 00:01:28,627 Speaker 2: The Bounce and familiar voice to cricket fans via the 23 00:01:28,627 --> 00:01:33,667 Speaker 2: BYC podcast Dylan Cleaver. Dylan, in your as always raise 24 00:01:33,707 --> 00:01:37,347 Speaker 2: a sharp analysis of this game. You called it a remarkable, 25 00:01:37,507 --> 00:01:42,627 Speaker 2: prolonged act of self sabotage. So perhaps we can start 26 00:01:42,667 --> 00:01:46,187 Speaker 2: with a bit of a deeper examination of that particular assessment. 27 00:01:47,227 --> 00:01:50,467 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, look, I think they sabotaged this campaign before 28 00:01:50,507 --> 00:01:56,027 Speaker 5: it even started. Really just the fact they didn't change 29 00:01:56,027 --> 00:01:58,747 Speaker 5: in a warm up game. I mean I would compare 30 00:01:58,787 --> 00:02:01,867 Speaker 5: it to say, well, let's take a step back and 31 00:02:01,907 --> 00:02:04,587 Speaker 5: say I think New Zealand are probably the only country 32 00:02:04,587 --> 00:02:07,267 Speaker 5: cricket plane country at the moment that still has this view. 33 00:02:07,587 --> 00:02:10,347 Speaker 5: Oh well, it's only T twenty. Would we ever go 34 00:02:10,427 --> 00:02:12,467 Speaker 5: into a one day fifty have a World Cup as 35 00:02:12,507 --> 00:02:15,867 Speaker 5: poorly prepared as we did for this World Championships. I 36 00:02:15,867 --> 00:02:18,747 Speaker 5: think the answer to that is a resounding no. And 37 00:02:18,787 --> 00:02:21,667 Speaker 5: you've got to ask why given that T twenty is 38 00:02:21,827 --> 00:02:24,547 Speaker 5: whether we like it or not, no matter what ourse, 39 00:02:24,547 --> 00:02:28,187 Speaker 5: snobber or purest views of cricket are, is the financial 40 00:02:28,267 --> 00:02:29,507 Speaker 5: driver of the modern game. 41 00:02:30,667 --> 00:02:33,627 Speaker 2: Have you been able to find out why New Zealand 42 00:02:33,707 --> 00:02:35,467 Speaker 2: turned up without any warm up matches? 43 00:02:36,867 --> 00:02:39,947 Speaker 5: I think it was largely logistics and I don't think 44 00:02:39,947 --> 00:02:43,987 Speaker 5: they were impossible to overcome, but they were bringing people 45 00:02:44,027 --> 00:02:46,827 Speaker 5: in from different places. It is awfully difficult to get 46 00:02:46,867 --> 00:02:48,867 Speaker 5: to the Caribbean from New Zealand, and I think they 47 00:02:48,867 --> 00:02:54,547 Speaker 5: have arrived in three separate tracks. The IPL players probably 48 00:02:54,547 --> 00:02:57,467 Speaker 5: wanted a bit of home time before they came to 49 00:02:57,507 --> 00:03:00,227 Speaker 5: the World T twenty. I would again, I think you 50 00:03:00,267 --> 00:03:03,947 Speaker 5: co would make a case that you know, if they 51 00:03:03,987 --> 00:03:05,747 Speaker 5: want at home time, it should have been scheduled for 52 00:03:05,827 --> 00:03:11,187 Speaker 5: that another stage rather than right before World Championships. And yeah, 53 00:03:11,227 --> 00:03:16,147 Speaker 5: it's just seemed honest, honestly and listened to the coming 54 00:03:16,187 --> 00:03:20,107 Speaker 5: to people like Mitchell Santner and that really chaotic starts 55 00:03:20,187 --> 00:03:21,547 Speaker 5: this tournament for them. 56 00:03:22,467 --> 00:03:24,427 Speaker 2: Just again, I don't want to dwell on the build 57 00:03:24,467 --> 00:03:28,827 Speaker 2: up to this too much, but again, to to to 58 00:03:29,027 --> 00:03:33,347 Speaker 2: not give the team the best chance of success, This 59 00:03:33,387 --> 00:03:35,827 Speaker 2: is a massive failure of organization, isn't it. 60 00:03:36,667 --> 00:03:39,827 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know really what was going through their heads. Honestly, 61 00:03:39,867 --> 00:03:45,387 Speaker 5: this is a massive failure of the Lincoln operations. It's 62 00:03:45,427 --> 00:03:48,587 Speaker 5: possibly a massive failure of the playing leadership as well 63 00:03:48,667 --> 00:03:52,627 Speaker 5: that they didn't recognize the potential pitfalls here. I'm wondering 64 00:03:52,667 --> 00:03:54,667 Speaker 5: if they all thought they were going to have those 65 00:03:54,707 --> 00:03:56,787 Speaker 5: eight ipl as, whether they thought they were going to 66 00:03:56,827 --> 00:04:01,547 Speaker 5: have far more game time during that tournament, the far 67 00:04:01,587 --> 00:04:05,827 Speaker 5: more involvement in that tournament, because it's just it makes 68 00:04:05,867 --> 00:04:07,947 Speaker 5: no sense on the service of things, that makes no 69 00:04:08,067 --> 00:04:11,147 Speaker 5: sense if there's something deeper behind it than I think 70 00:04:11,187 --> 00:04:14,587 Speaker 5: New Zealand Cricket not now, because I mean, there's obviously 71 00:04:14,587 --> 00:04:17,507 Speaker 5: still a chance they can turn this around as unlikely 72 00:04:17,547 --> 00:04:19,267 Speaker 5: as I looked on the evidence of yesterday, but they 73 00:04:19,307 --> 00:04:21,627 Speaker 5: could still turn it around. But if they don't, then 74 00:04:21,667 --> 00:04:26,427 Speaker 5: I think there really needs to be honest explanation of 75 00:04:26,507 --> 00:04:28,147 Speaker 5: why they put the team in this position. 76 00:04:28,587 --> 00:04:31,187 Speaker 2: Let's look at yesterday, which of the three parts of 77 00:04:31,227 --> 00:04:35,627 Speaker 2: New Zealand's performance batting, bowling, fielding was most alarming for you? 78 00:04:36,507 --> 00:04:41,227 Speaker 5: I thought they bowled right. Fielding was just woeful and 79 00:04:41,627 --> 00:04:45,107 Speaker 5: unfortunately it's a continuation of what we saw last summer. 80 00:04:45,307 --> 00:04:49,627 Speaker 5: And when that three kneel series defeat T twenty defeat 81 00:04:49,627 --> 00:04:53,507 Speaker 5: to Australia was they were polls apart in their fielding. 82 00:04:53,867 --> 00:04:58,547 Speaker 5: New Zealand poorly, Australia fielded well and in Game one 83 00:04:58,587 --> 00:05:01,747 Speaker 5: that was probably the difference in Game two US Games 84 00:05:01,747 --> 00:05:05,107 Speaker 5: two and three, Australia were just much better. But yeah, 85 00:05:05,107 --> 00:05:07,547 Speaker 5: the fielding has been poor for a while now, and 86 00:05:08,027 --> 00:05:10,627 Speaker 5: I think that goes across format's. Actually I think a 87 00:05:10,867 --> 00:05:15,867 Speaker 5: chance of a Test series draw with Australia was essentially 88 00:05:15,907 --> 00:05:18,547 Speaker 5: lost on the final day, had the faball when they 89 00:05:18,707 --> 00:05:23,707 Speaker 5: fill a very easy chance. I don't know. Is that 90 00:05:23,827 --> 00:05:26,907 Speaker 5: a confidence thing. I mean, feeling is a fine skills 91 00:05:26,947 --> 00:05:28,867 Speaker 5: thing and New Zealands just aren't very good at it 92 00:05:28,907 --> 00:05:30,947 Speaker 5: at the moment. But they seem to have pummeted from 93 00:05:30,947 --> 00:05:34,987 Speaker 5: a great height because everyone regarded them as such an efficient, 94 00:05:35,787 --> 00:05:39,227 Speaker 5: well drilled fielding unit and suddenly a long way away 95 00:05:39,227 --> 00:05:42,547 Speaker 5: from that. So that was really disappointing. And you could 96 00:05:42,707 --> 00:05:46,107 Speaker 5: drill down even further than that and strategically, have they 97 00:05:46,107 --> 00:05:48,987 Speaker 5: got it right by not playing a keeper. I'm sure 98 00:05:48,987 --> 00:05:51,187 Speaker 5: they've got lots of data to back up the fact 99 00:05:51,187 --> 00:05:54,267 Speaker 5: that you don't really need a high fast keeper in 100 00:05:54,347 --> 00:05:58,187 Speaker 5: T twenty. I would argue, actually on tricky pitchers and 101 00:05:58,227 --> 00:06:01,667 Speaker 5: when you've got a bowling attack that you suspect might 102 00:06:01,747 --> 00:06:05,347 Speaker 5: be the equal of the betting lineup you're against, I 103 00:06:05,347 --> 00:06:09,027 Speaker 5: think it's fall hardy player keeper and that was born 104 00:06:09,067 --> 00:06:13,147 Speaker 5: out yesterday and that's not that's not wisdom and hindsight. 105 00:06:13,387 --> 00:06:17,467 Speaker 5: I sort of thought that for a while, but I'm 106 00:06:17,547 --> 00:06:20,027 Speaker 5: just it all paled in comparison to just a really 107 00:06:20,107 --> 00:06:22,627 Speaker 5: dreadful belly of it. I mean, pick your poisoned piney. 108 00:06:24,267 --> 00:06:28,107 Speaker 5: Well they're bold, okay, they fielded dreadfully and they batter 109 00:06:28,107 --> 00:06:28,827 Speaker 5: it embarrassingly. 110 00:06:29,987 --> 00:06:33,227 Speaker 2: That is a very succinct and and am I anyway 111 00:06:33,267 --> 00:06:35,307 Speaker 2: accurate summation of the whole thing on the batting though? 112 00:06:35,347 --> 00:06:37,667 Speaker 2: Can we just say, okay, and maybe this is me 113 00:06:37,747 --> 00:06:39,627 Speaker 2: down playing T twenty, but can we just say, you 114 00:06:39,627 --> 00:06:42,147 Speaker 2: know what, it's T twenty. Sometimes these things happen. Sometimes 115 00:06:42,147 --> 00:06:44,187 Speaker 2: you get bold out for seventy five and sixteen overs 116 00:06:44,307 --> 00:06:46,067 Speaker 2: or is that? Is that not fair? 117 00:06:47,627 --> 00:06:51,267 Speaker 5: No? I think you are right. And T twenty is 118 00:06:52,667 --> 00:06:54,707 Speaker 5: slightly difficult. Well, it's easy and the most speakle of 119 00:06:54,747 --> 00:06:56,947 Speaker 5: the formats. You can get upsets more easy in T 120 00:06:56,947 --> 00:06:59,467 Speaker 5: twenty cricket than you can get in in the other format. 121 00:06:59,667 --> 00:07:03,707 Speaker 5: And you can have horrible days at the office. And 122 00:07:04,507 --> 00:07:06,107 Speaker 5: you know, new Zelling now going to a winn to 123 00:07:06,147 --> 00:07:10,307 Speaker 5: take all essentially with West Indies, so there is still 124 00:07:10,307 --> 00:07:12,187 Speaker 5: a chance for them to pull this out of the fire. 125 00:07:13,107 --> 00:07:17,907 Speaker 5: It was just a really awkward chase from earlier once 126 00:07:17,947 --> 00:07:21,707 Speaker 5: they lost ban Allen, who they have so much riding 127 00:07:21,707 --> 00:07:25,707 Speaker 5: on finale and stroke gradibility at the top, and his 128 00:07:25,907 --> 00:07:30,427 Speaker 5: inconsistency means you can't really rely on it, and yet 129 00:07:30,467 --> 00:07:32,987 Speaker 5: they do with Conway and Williamson in that top three 130 00:07:33,067 --> 00:07:35,947 Speaker 5: and Mitchell as well, who at four, who is a 131 00:07:36,027 --> 00:07:39,427 Speaker 5: very powerful striker of the ball, but he's not a 132 00:07:39,467 --> 00:07:43,707 Speaker 5: guy that can go from ball one. So when Banellen 133 00:07:43,747 --> 00:07:47,827 Speaker 5: gets his polls rattled first ball of the innings, you 134 00:07:47,947 --> 00:07:50,067 Speaker 5: know that they're going to have to go about it, 135 00:07:50,107 --> 00:07:54,107 Speaker 5: and they kind of very measured way, and I just 136 00:07:54,147 --> 00:07:57,547 Speaker 5: don't think the situation called for that. I think they 137 00:07:57,547 --> 00:08:01,107 Speaker 5: were handstring by the way they've constructed their batting lineup, 138 00:08:01,747 --> 00:08:04,147 Speaker 5: and I mean there are pixures they can make there, 139 00:08:04,227 --> 00:08:05,747 Speaker 5: but I think they're also going to be a lot 140 00:08:05,787 --> 00:08:09,067 Speaker 5: more flexible in New Zealand that they're just so rigid. 141 00:08:09,307 --> 00:08:12,067 Speaker 5: You know exactly how they're going to go about the 142 00:08:12,187 --> 00:08:15,427 Speaker 5: betting every time, and you know it might have been 143 00:08:15,467 --> 00:08:17,947 Speaker 5: a case. I think the commentators even mentioned there, and 144 00:08:17,947 --> 00:08:21,107 Speaker 5: they perfectly good sense that you know, there was probably 145 00:08:21,147 --> 00:08:25,427 Speaker 5: a case for bringing a left hander up to number 146 00:08:25,467 --> 00:08:28,147 Speaker 5: five in place of Glen Phillips to kind of get 147 00:08:28,187 --> 00:08:30,787 Speaker 5: those their right partnerships going. But they never even consider 148 00:08:30,867 --> 00:08:31,467 Speaker 5: things like that. 149 00:08:32,587 --> 00:08:35,347 Speaker 2: Fanellan, just on herm it strikes me in T twenty 150 00:08:35,347 --> 00:08:38,067 Speaker 2: cricket is very much a high risk, high reward proposition. 151 00:08:39,107 --> 00:08:44,147 Speaker 2: Is New Zealand getting enough reward to persist with Finellum. 152 00:08:45,147 --> 00:08:48,547 Speaker 5: Not at the moment. But he's twenty five, he's played 153 00:08:48,547 --> 00:08:52,227 Speaker 5: forty four twenties. Now, I think I did, and my 154 00:08:52,347 --> 00:08:55,427 Speaker 5: new said, I read uf some stats about them, which 155 00:08:55,467 --> 00:08:57,987 Speaker 5: I fortifusly haven't got to hand right at the moment. 156 00:08:58,027 --> 00:09:01,907 Speaker 5: But he's been dismissed in less than six balls or 157 00:09:01,907 --> 00:09:04,547 Speaker 5: fewer than six balls. You know, I'm almost a third 158 00:09:04,547 --> 00:09:07,507 Speaker 5: of the innings or a quarter of the innings he's 159 00:09:07,547 --> 00:09:12,667 Speaker 5: played so far. Is as failure eight is really high 160 00:09:13,187 --> 00:09:16,947 Speaker 5: you The worrying thing for me is that he doesn't 161 00:09:16,987 --> 00:09:21,307 Speaker 5: appear to be getting better. Uh. And I think you can. 162 00:09:21,467 --> 00:09:25,027 Speaker 5: I think you definitely need high risk, higher more propositions 163 00:09:25,027 --> 00:09:27,947 Speaker 5: and teach twenty quickie. You can't go into games without them. 164 00:09:28,307 --> 00:09:35,027 Speaker 5: You need your Travis Head's, your Fan Alans and Syria Kumass. 165 00:09:35,067 --> 00:09:38,347 Speaker 5: But they've just got to they've got to come off 166 00:09:38,387 --> 00:09:40,987 Speaker 5: more than an al and that's coming off. But I 167 00:09:41,027 --> 00:09:47,667 Speaker 5: wouldn't I wouldn't ditch yet. I still think there's talent there. 168 00:09:48,147 --> 00:09:49,827 Speaker 5: It's just going to be expressed more often. 169 00:09:50,387 --> 00:09:52,787 Speaker 2: So now against the West Inndays on Thursday, this is 170 00:09:52,787 --> 00:09:56,667 Speaker 2: effectively a knockout match in many ways. What can New 171 00:09:56,747 --> 00:09:59,787 Speaker 2: Zealand do selection wise? Do you do you think they 172 00:09:59,827 --> 00:10:00,787 Speaker 2: could make changes? 173 00:10:02,227 --> 00:10:04,147 Speaker 5: Yeah? I think they shure it's not really the Gary 174 00:10:04,187 --> 00:10:07,427 Speaker 5: Star King Williams and wayo is it that reasonably stubborn 175 00:10:07,467 --> 00:10:10,147 Speaker 5: when it comes to selection. I was surprised to see 176 00:10:10,227 --> 00:10:12,387 Speaker 5: Rochard Ravindra not in there for the simple fact you 177 00:10:12,427 --> 00:10:14,627 Speaker 5: play quite a few games at the IPL. He was 178 00:10:14,667 --> 00:10:16,227 Speaker 5: one of the few guys that was coming in and 179 00:10:16,387 --> 00:10:18,307 Speaker 5: she asked on cricket and although he didn't have a 180 00:10:18,307 --> 00:10:22,347 Speaker 5: great tournament, he didn't have an uptick at the end, 181 00:10:22,387 --> 00:10:26,467 Speaker 5: which suggested he was in reasonable form. The problem is 182 00:10:26,507 --> 00:10:28,507 Speaker 5: the natural place for room to go and is at 183 00:10:28,587 --> 00:10:30,827 Speaker 5: the top and place of Conway. But then that puts 184 00:10:30,987 --> 00:10:33,587 Speaker 5: even more pressure on your wikie keeping situations. You then 185 00:10:33,587 --> 00:10:37,187 Speaker 5: hand the gloves to Fanellen, who probably should be concentrating 186 00:10:37,227 --> 00:10:40,827 Speaker 5: only on batting at the moment, or perhaps you revived 187 00:10:40,867 --> 00:10:43,307 Speaker 5: Gwen Phillips's wook at keeping career, in which case you 188 00:10:43,467 --> 00:10:47,747 Speaker 5: lose that option as a bowler of ospin filter an 189 00:10:47,747 --> 00:10:49,947 Speaker 5: over or two if you need it. So it's not 190 00:10:50,027 --> 00:10:54,987 Speaker 5: a simple job to crowbarron him in there, but I 191 00:10:55,107 --> 00:10:59,987 Speaker 5: probably would. Nisian's the other one who I thought was unlucky, 192 00:11:00,307 --> 00:11:04,747 Speaker 5: and just that he's one of those guys that pulls 193 00:11:04,787 --> 00:11:08,107 Speaker 5: things out of the fire under pressure. He actually enjoys 194 00:11:08,227 --> 00:11:12,587 Speaker 5: betting and pressure moments. He enjoys bowling and pressure moments, 195 00:11:12,627 --> 00:11:15,707 Speaker 5: although sometimes you wish you wouldn't enjoy bowling and pressure 196 00:11:15,707 --> 00:11:19,947 Speaker 5: moments quite so often because he's quite expensive. But I 197 00:11:20,307 --> 00:11:22,787 Speaker 5: think there's probably a place for him and there maybe 198 00:11:23,347 --> 00:11:30,427 Speaker 5: in place of Graceful and then Yeah, I mean it's 199 00:11:30,467 --> 00:11:34,547 Speaker 5: a reasonable squad, right, there's not too many players picked 200 00:11:34,587 --> 00:11:37,707 Speaker 5: for who you thought, oh, Jeepes, I can't believe he 201 00:11:37,747 --> 00:11:39,667 Speaker 5: got in and said of such and such. I mean, 202 00:11:39,667 --> 00:11:42,627 Speaker 5: it's not like where I've got buckets full of depth 203 00:11:42,747 --> 00:11:45,387 Speaker 5: to choose from here. So I don't think really selection 204 00:11:46,227 --> 00:11:48,347 Speaker 5: is the critical factory against the Western is They've just 205 00:11:48,387 --> 00:11:50,987 Speaker 5: got a field so much better they've got to beat 206 00:11:51,067 --> 00:11:54,307 Speaker 5: so much better. And without being a doom sayer, you know, 207 00:11:54,427 --> 00:11:56,307 Speaker 5: even being in the Western Thes might not be enough 208 00:11:56,347 --> 00:11:58,507 Speaker 5: of the wind. He's then turn around and beat Afghanistan, 209 00:11:58,587 --> 00:12:01,987 Speaker 5: and that comes down to a run rate battle for 210 00:12:02,067 --> 00:12:07,667 Speaker 5: that second spot because by virtue of destroying Uganda and 211 00:12:07,707 --> 00:12:11,507 Speaker 5: New Zealand, Afghanistan and miles ahead in that regard anyway. 212 00:12:11,667 --> 00:12:14,747 Speaker 5: So it's very tricky from here on in piny And. 213 00:12:14,787 --> 00:12:18,067 Speaker 5: I know that sounds like doom and glue, but having 214 00:12:18,187 --> 00:12:23,067 Speaker 5: sat through there yesterday, it's probably most people who who 215 00:12:23,427 --> 00:12:24,547 Speaker 5: witness that field. 216 00:12:24,747 --> 00:12:26,867 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I do want to finish on a glimmer of 217 00:12:26,867 --> 00:12:29,667 Speaker 2: hope as you have and your piece. You're right. The 218 00:12:29,747 --> 00:12:32,187 Speaker 2: one thing New Zealand fans can fall back on is 219 00:12:32,267 --> 00:12:35,627 Speaker 2: this is a team who's senior players tend to figure 220 00:12:35,667 --> 00:12:37,427 Speaker 2: things out. So do you think they will? 221 00:12:39,107 --> 00:12:44,267 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I don't think they could possibly pay that poorly. Yeah, 222 00:12:44,747 --> 00:12:48,547 Speaker 5: twenty is probably the most difficult format to figure things 223 00:12:48,587 --> 00:12:50,827 Speaker 5: out on the flywood because it all happened so fast 224 00:12:50,867 --> 00:12:55,827 Speaker 5: and it's so reactive, it's so instinctive. But yeah, I look, 225 00:12:57,067 --> 00:13:00,467 Speaker 5: they have to in their own minds treat that Afghanistan 226 00:13:00,547 --> 00:13:03,107 Speaker 5: game in rich respectcause if there was the warm up 227 00:13:03,147 --> 00:13:06,267 Speaker 5: game now and the tournament starts for them, and you know, 228 00:13:06,707 --> 00:13:10,947 Speaker 5: the fingers crashed. Much better performance in Trinidad's or just 229 00:13:11,027 --> 00:13:15,867 Speaker 5: outside Trinidad at the Brian Lawer Academy and New Zealand continue. 230 00:13:15,907 --> 00:13:18,027 Speaker 5: There's quite amazing run. They've had a nice in some 231 00:13:18,027 --> 00:13:21,387 Speaker 5: of tournaments which we shouldn't forget either. You know, this 232 00:13:21,587 --> 00:13:24,867 Speaker 5: is a generation of players that have time and again, 233 00:13:26,427 --> 00:13:29,347 Speaker 5: to use that horrible cliche, probably punched above their weight. 234 00:13:30,627 --> 00:13:32,667 Speaker 5: We do not want them to regress to the meme 235 00:13:33,187 --> 00:13:33,627 Speaker 5: just yet. 236 00:13:34,667 --> 00:13:36,787 Speaker 2: Dylan. Thanks for taking one for the team and being 237 00:13:36,947 --> 00:13:40,147 Speaker 2: the one we've chosen to unpeck this for us. Let's 238 00:13:40,147 --> 00:13:41,707 Speaker 2: hope things are a lot brighter from here on. I 239 00:13:41,707 --> 00:13:43,107 Speaker 2: appreciate your time this afternoon. 240 00:13:43,547 --> 00:13:44,107 Speaker 5: Cheers, Bunny. 241 00:13:44,147 --> 00:13:47,747 Speaker 2: Thanks Dylan. Dylan Cleaver. Subscribe to us newsletter. It is 242 00:13:47,867 --> 00:13:52,107 Speaker 2: just terrific, The Bounce. 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