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Speaker 1: Super Cars are back this weekend of Perth, which is

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Speaker 1: a bit of a time frame Hassel really, but then

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Speaker 1: Australia is a very big country. Matt Pain since we

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Speaker 1: last talked, has been having the time of his life

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Speaker 1: Number nineteen Mustang one one of the best races of

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Speaker 1: the season the other weekend in Tasmania. He currently sits

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Speaker 1: third in the standings and he's back with us from Melbourne.

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Speaker 2: Matt morning, Yeah, good morning to you as well.

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Speaker 1: Right, Oh, let's play a game. The game is what's

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Speaker 1: your favorite victory? Was it Taerpo or was it the

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Speaker 1: other weekend in Tasmania?

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Speaker 2: Good line to start off with, I suppose, but for me,

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Speaker 2: you definitely have to be Taupo. I think that was

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Speaker 2: a pretty special weekend for all of us. You know,

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Speaker 2: two wins in one week in is pretty cool and

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Speaker 2: I think for me winning at home, especially in front

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Speaker 2: of the New Zealand crowd, it couldn't have been any better.

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Speaker 1: And of course since we last talked the announcements have

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Speaker 1: been made. It's going to be Tarpeau and christ dur

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Speaker 1: So twice a year for the next handful of years. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: as a local, you've got to be thrilled.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's absolutely insane. It's going to be really good

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Speaker 2: to get around down and have the sort of South

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Speaker 2: going to do a pretty good job dressing the track up.

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to be I think it's going

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Speaker 2: to be a really good weekend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, as regards Tasmania and that last race that you won,

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Speaker 1: how long does that, you know, stay with you, the excitement,

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Speaker 1: the thrill of what unfolded, or you know, by Monday,

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Speaker 2: Oh? No, that was a pretty special race, like just

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Speaker 2: how everything played out as the tires were going away,

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Speaker 2: and just how close it was at the end. It Yeah,

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Speaker 2: definitely stayed with me for a while. I think there

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Speaker 2: was still a fear bit of analyzing to do over

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Speaker 2: the weekend as a whole, just in terms of our speed.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it was a pretty it was a pretty

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Speaker 2: awesome race. I think it's definitely one of the most

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Speaker 2: fun races I've ever had, as tough as it was,

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Speaker 2: but it was It was pretty cool to women in

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Speaker 2: that way. And yeah, I didn't think I was gonna

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Speaker 2: I was going to when I was waking up that

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Speaker 2: morning I didn't think I was going to be leaving

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Speaker 2: the track for a win, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: So talk to me about your confidence and how about

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Speaker 1: building third year into this. You're in a good team,

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Speaker 1: you've got some good people around you, and you seem

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Speaker 1: going very well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. You know, this year is definitely the best

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Speaker 2: start we've had over my three years and the category

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Speaker 2: so's it's been really good in terms of that, especially

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Speaker 2: after after four rounds we're sitting third in the championship,

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Speaker 2: which is the highest I've ever been. So that's been

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Speaker 2: through some really good momentum for the rest of the season.

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Speaker 2: But there's still a lot of work to do, Like

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Speaker 2: so there's a lot of work to that codes into that,

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Speaker 2: especially the next two rounds probably are still I think

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Speaker 2: Tasmania was definitely the weakest track we had from last year,

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Speaker 2: but Darwin and Perth we still weren't when as splash

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Speaker 2: there's still a lot of hard work to come, but

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Speaker 2: as far as having a good start for the year.

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Speaker 2: It's been really good.

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Speaker 1: A couple of key words there, Darwin and Perth always

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Speaker 1: reminds me just how big Australia is. I mean, just

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Speaker 1: getting everything you talk about coming to New Zealand, but

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Speaker 1: I mean what about getting from Melbourne to Perth and

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Speaker 1: Melbourne to Darwin. I mean, you've got the trucks in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a big old place. There's a lot of

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of space to be filled up and

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Speaker 2: it's actually a pretty tight turnaround for us in between

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Speaker 2: hard to get the cars back. I think it takes

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Speaker 2: But lucky we've got a truck driver here absolutely loves driving,

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Speaker 1: Well, that's goodwill be thirteen past eight, Matt pains with

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Speaker 1: us out of supercars now. Now what I've been meaning

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Speaker 1: to talk to you about as what I've observed so far.

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Speaker 1: So you have a third year into this. You're good

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Speaker 1: at qualifying, right, so you've got what they say good

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Speaker 1: now it appears to me what you're building into is

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Speaker 1: So are those two different things? Does one follow the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's qualifying speed I will always feel like

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Speaker 2: But my race race speed and race craft probably weren't

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Speaker 2: So for me, the biggest thing we've all improved on

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Speaker 2: so we still need to work on that. Our quality

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Speaker 2: But yeah, for sure, the race speed is probably the

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Speaker 2: But the qualifying some tracks you need to you need

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Speaker 1: Much feedback do you as a driver give an engineer

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Speaker 2: Oh no, it's huge, Like we're constantly talking about balance

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Speaker 2: But that's certainly the driver feedback is certainly almost priority

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Speaker 1: Now, Now, what about that how malleable is the car

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Speaker 1: And given that, then how bullish are you for the

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Speaker 2: Well? For me, I think like I, like I said before,

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Speaker 1: I mean this gap between the races, I mean, what

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Speaker 2: Then for us we sort of just get back and

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Speaker 1: And what about all this mata? I mean, is this

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Speaker 2: But certainly now I've feel like I'm settled in in

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Speaker 2: a pretty good place and with how the car is

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Speaker 2: tracking and that it seems pretty positive for the rest

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Speaker 2: of the year.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're enjoying watching it as always good to catch

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Speaker 1: up with you go well on Perth beauty.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: There we go. Matt Payne out of Melbourne this morning.

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