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Speaker 2: Gooday you great Kiwis Welcome into podcasts three oh four

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Speaker 2: Flying solo Today Maddison Wellington doing some important work, but

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Speaker 2: it was a great show. Today. We had a deep

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Speaker 2: discussion on the price of Petro and how high it

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Speaker 2: That was a doozy. Then also got into athletics at

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Speaker 2: the community level. What is happening there. There's been a

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Speaker 2: call for a dedicated stadium for athletics and New Zealand

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Speaker 2: ahead of this Commonwealth Games bid in twenty thirty four.

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Speaker 2: Then we chad a little bit about the good old

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Speaker 2: in the local council. So it was a great show.

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Speaker 1: It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoon Squiz Shoda News

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Speaker 1: Talk said, be.

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Speaker 2: A very good afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into Tuesday show. Great to have your company as always,

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Speaker 2: just me on deck today. Matt Heath is down in

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Speaker 2: Wellington on important business, so missing my mates, but I

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Speaker 2: will be flying solo for a couple of days and

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Speaker 2: great to have your company as always, Thanks very much

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Speaker 2: for giving us a listen. Big show for you today

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Speaker 2: after three o'clock when I have to talk about the

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Speaker 2: price of food at events. This is after fans at

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Speaker 2: the Australian Grand Prix and Melbourne have criticized high food

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Speaker 2: around thirty two dollars. Drinks were also expensive, some fans.

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Speaker 2: Fans said, with beer around fifteen dollars fifty Australian and

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Speaker 2: bring their own food in like Lords, you're allowed to

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Speaker 2: something we need to start to introduce here in New

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand. This is after a athletics New Zealand

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Speaker 2: leader has raised concerns that New Zealand lacks a suitable

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Speaker 2: thirty four Commonwealth Games. The government is considering making a

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Speaker 2: the nation's most successful at the game's historically. Our previous

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Speaker 2: That is after two o'clock looking very much full to

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Speaker 2: that then, But right now chat about petrol prices. They

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Speaker 2: may keep climbing as global oil markets remain unstable. Brent

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Speaker 2: So do you get it? Do you understand what Nikola

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Speaker 2: Willis was trying to put across there that any sort

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Speaker 2: seriously thinking about subsidizing the cost of fuel right now

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Speaker 2: governments to at this stage rule out subsidizing fuel at

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Speaker 3: This is news Talk sai'd be breaking news.

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Speaker 2: Yes and breaking news. Expelled to Party Maori MP. Maria

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Speaker 2: It is viision released by the High Court's ruled Kappa

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Speaker 2: King's expulsion breached the party's constitution and Tea Kunger. By

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Speaker 2: a Tea Party Maori MP. Just repeating that breaking news.

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Speaker 2: Expelled to Party Maori MP. Midia Meno Kappa Kinge has

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Speaker 2: There'll be plenty more on that story as the afternoon progresses.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks.

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Speaker 2: At b for a good afternoon. She here, it's a

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Speaker 2: quarter past once. We're talking about the price of petrol

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Speaker 2: at the moment, and Nikola willis on behalf of the

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Speaker 2: government ruling out at this stage any sort of subsidy

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Speaker 2: mistake o? Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Her justification

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Speaker 2: more pressure on an already pressured government finance portfolio and

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Speaker 2: eight hundred eighty ten eighty. In my opinion on it,

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Speaker 2: if it does reach four dollars a liter for ninety five,

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Speaker 2: in my eyes, it's a self regulating market that when

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Speaker 2: They're going to have to drop down to one car

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Speaker 2: market is going to self regulate in terms of behavior.

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Speaker 2: What is more concerning is around industry, freight, emergency personnel,

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Speaker 2: obviously the fertilizer. So there's a lot of concern around

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Speaker 2: government intervention. And I agree, borrowing more money for short

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Speaker 2: track to me is not sensible. But do you agree

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Speaker 2: or disagree? O? Eight hundred eighty ten eighty? Is that

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Speaker 2: rise and petrol at the moment? Afternoon, Ben?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, afternoon. So we got the heads up last week,

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Speaker 6: ZP And on the ZP you can lock it up

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Speaker 6: to one thousand liters of diesel or petrol at the

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Speaker 2: You have to pay for that all at once, do you?

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Speaker 2: So you lock in whatever the price was, it was

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Speaker 6: I drive the use so I've got to arrange of diesel.

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Speaker 6: So I locked it in at I think a dollar

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Speaker 6: eighty four. Lock that in and I brought three hundred leaders.

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Speaker 6: It was like five hundred and fifty bucks. But that's

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Speaker 6: enough guests. Well that's enough easier to ask me probably

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Speaker 6: if I if I cut down on driving around so much,

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Speaker 6: probably maybe seven eight weeks. So every time I go

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Speaker 6: full up, now I've really prepaid it for it a

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Speaker 2: Smart thinking, Ben, and good on you. But instantly I'm

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Speaker 3: There'll be a few people fifty.

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Speaker 6: It's five hundred and fifty and fifty for three hundred leaguers.

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Speaker 6: I didn't do the four thousand.

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Speaker 2: Oh right, I got you. Yeah, yeah, Hey, it's smart thinking,

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Speaker 2: and you thought about that that pretty clearly. So when

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Speaker 2: it all kicked off, was that your instant thinking is

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Speaker 2: like cheap as, I better better lock the cerdain because

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Speaker 2: this might go north very fast.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I just remembered that what happened after the

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Speaker 6: then I also grabbed the key we Saver out of

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Speaker 6: I'm glad I've done that because the markets have dropped

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Speaker 6: as well. So it's yeah, it's just the warning ones

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Speaker 6: were there. It was the media were pretty clear about it.

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Speaker 6: And if you chose not to do something about it

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Speaker 1: The headlines and the hard questions. It's the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 7: Tickler Willis's the finance in the state, the twenty five

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Speaker 3: Places like Europe have thirty plus.

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Speaker 5: At the moment, we have around fifty days fuel combined

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Speaker 5: fuel companies are not reporting issues with supply chains currently.

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Speaker 5: We're very conscious that the price at the pump is

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Speaker 3: Simon Perim is the CEO at Homo Fuel.

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Speaker 8: I don't want to sound facetious about this, but is

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Speaker 9: We're sending seen an increase in but is it good

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Speaker 10: I don't think it's good for any much.

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Speaker 2: Twenty five past one, and that is what we are discussing.

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Speaker 2: Nicola Willis on with Mike this morning saying that they

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Speaker 2: have no plans to introduce some sort of subsidy or

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Speaker 2: that Nichola Willis made a mistake here, that she should

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Speaker 7: I think they should that You just played a clip

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Speaker 7: One would have to assume that the price was locked

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Speaker 7: I know some of that is outside her control, however,

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Speaker 7: I forget the figure that makes up the total cost

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Speaker 7: to the tax take. She would still take the same tax.

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Speaker 7: But we know that when the price of fuel goes up,

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Correct, And there's a few texts to that regard as well.

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Speaker 2: So at the moment, it's roughly around seventy to seventy

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Speaker 2: where she's already mentioned, impact inflation. But do you think

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Speaker 2: it is prudence considering the financial state we're in, Robin.

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Speaker 2: The last time there was a fuel subsidy was Labor

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm not arguing for a fuel subsidy. I'm arguing

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting point. I mean, how likely do

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Speaker 2: that excise fuel tax. But that makes sense. But the

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Speaker 2: because people are hurting versus hey, we're going to get

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Speaker 7: Well, then in that case she will be punishing those

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Speaker 7: particularly on low incomes and middle to low incomes. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: those who can least afford it.

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Speaker 2: And that is that you at the moment, Robin.

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Speaker 7: I'm not going to put myself in that category because

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Speaker 7: I don't want to do that publicly. But if you

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Speaker 7: but I'm not arguing it from my point of view

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Speaker 7: sure not going to help that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Robin, thank you very much for coming on and

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Speaker 2: an interesting point of view, and good on you for

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Speaker 2: pushing back on on Nikola Willis and having courage of

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Speaker 2: Is there some rigal room that the government can introduce

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Speaker 2: Ninet two ninety two is the text number as well?

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Speaker 2: Headlines coming up? Then taking more of your calls back

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Speaker 2: very shortly.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Raylean just quickly a couple of

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Speaker 2: Robin made the suggestion that the government can look to

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Speaker 2: alter the GST or even the fuel excize levy to

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Speaker 2: offer that relief at the pump rather than a complete subsidy.

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Speaker 2: So here the Texas Tyler, the tax take doesn't go

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Speaker 2: up if fuel prices increase. It's so much per leader,

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Speaker 2: not per dollar. The tax will in fact go down

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Speaker 2: as these people can afford the same amount of fuel

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Speaker 2: they use. Now that's from Greg and that's a fair point,

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Speaker 2: but that's assuming that people's behavior will change, and argue

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Speaker 2: also on the flip side of the coin, people may

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Speaker 2: paying more for it because they still need petrol to

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Speaker 2: get to work and to live their lives. And this one,

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Speaker 2: Robin is not correct. National halted the inflation rises and

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Speaker 2: excise when they became government. That's around twelve cents per liter.

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Speaker 2: The GST is the only tax that rises or falls

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Speaker 2: with price. Too hard to fix it per leader. That's

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Speaker 2: Steve from Auckland, So keep those techs coming through. On

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Speaker 2: nine to two, Malcolm, very good afternoon to you.

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Speaker 11: How are you going.

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Speaker 2: I'm good.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, I was just listening to all that

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Speaker 11: I suppose looking at it, you know, the people let

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Speaker 11: use less, the government's going to get less, but you know,

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Speaker 11: same as robins. The government are going to reapin potentially

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Speaker 11: millions of dollars more in GST.

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Speaker 3: And it's not.

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Speaker 11: Only on the fuel. If we start to get surcharges

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Speaker 11: And the whole thing is huge. And someone within the

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Speaker 11: government has already worked this out. If fuel goes up

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Speaker 11: to four dollars a liter and they turn over x

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Speaker 11: amount of fuel, they will know how many billions more

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Speaker 11: dollars that they will be raised over X amount of months.

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Speaker 11: I have looked into it for to see how much

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Speaker 11: quite incredible. I don't know what it was it was

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Speaker 11: government was upfront and they just said, look, if the

436
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Speaker 11: fuel goes up, we stand to make this amount and

437
00:22:47,453 --> 00:22:48,333
Speaker 11: we want that money.

438
00:22:49,093 --> 00:22:53,173
Speaker 2: So you're talking about what localizing a reduction in GST

439
00:22:53,573 --> 00:22:56,053
Speaker 2: on fuel prices for people potentially as an option.

440
00:22:56,773 --> 00:23:00,333
Speaker 11: Yes, but because just as a figure one dollar extra

441
00:23:00,493 --> 00:23:05,253
Speaker 11: on fuel that's forty two dollars, it goes up a

442
00:23:05,293 --> 00:23:09,013
Speaker 11: dollar that's forty two dollars plus used tea. On the

443
00:23:09,173 --> 00:23:12,613
Speaker 11: other fifty liters I'm based on fifty liters, that's seven

444
00:23:12,653 --> 00:23:14,973
Speaker 11: dollars fifty of extra GST they get.

445
00:23:14,813 --> 00:23:15,933
Speaker 13: Off that person.

446
00:23:16,053 --> 00:23:20,453
Speaker 11: It films up so at five thousand fills over a million,

447
00:23:20,973 --> 00:23:25,813
Speaker 11: five thousand fills a day over a year, that is

448
00:23:25,933 --> 00:23:29,973
Speaker 11: thirteen point six million, So there's way more than that filled.

449
00:23:29,773 --> 00:23:30,493
Speaker 14: Up every day.

450
00:23:30,533 --> 00:23:33,373
Speaker 11: So you know, they stand to make an incredible amount

451
00:23:33,413 --> 00:23:35,933
Speaker 11: of money out of this, and I.

452
00:23:35,813 --> 00:23:38,093
Speaker 2: Mean love it'll be interesting to see, yeah, to see

453
00:23:38,133 --> 00:23:40,533
Speaker 2: what the increase in GST take would be. And it's

454
00:23:40,573 --> 00:23:43,173
Speaker 2: been a short period so far. But on the argument

455
00:23:43,253 --> 00:23:46,453
Speaker 2: of people changing their behavior, I just don't see that

456
00:23:46,573 --> 00:23:48,973
Speaker 2: at the moment, Malcom. I think people are pricing in

457
00:23:49,333 --> 00:23:52,213
Speaker 2: that increase into their budget and they're still paying for

458
00:23:52,253 --> 00:23:54,493
Speaker 2: the same amount of fuel. They're just pricing in that

459
00:23:54,613 --> 00:23:57,373
Speaker 2: extra twenty dollars fifteen dollars whatever it is a week

460
00:23:57,693 --> 00:23:59,813
Speaker 2: to fill their car up. So they're still using the

461
00:23:59,853 --> 00:24:02,613
Speaker 2: same amount of liters, they're just paying extra for it.

462
00:24:03,253 --> 00:24:06,893
Speaker 11: Yes, but yes, that portion of GST though, which seems unfair,

463
00:24:07,573 --> 00:24:11,893
Speaker 11: And yeah, you know it's like GST on fruit drop,

464
00:24:11,933 --> 00:24:15,013
Speaker 11: the GST of fruit will maybe do the same on fuel,

465
00:24:15,173 --> 00:24:18,173
Speaker 11: just have an amount like the road text is at

466
00:24:18,173 --> 00:24:19,093
Speaker 11: the moment early to.

467
00:24:19,773 --> 00:24:22,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Malcolm, thank you very much for your thoughts

468
00:24:22,413 --> 00:24:25,413
Speaker 2: and you're getting some support via text. The only heck

469
00:24:25,493 --> 00:24:28,373
Speaker 2: up I can see with you know, localizing a reduction

470
00:24:28,493 --> 00:24:32,813
Speaker 2: in GST on fuel immensely complicated. There was a long discussion,

471
00:24:32,813 --> 00:24:35,613
Speaker 2: as Malcolm mentioned, about taking GST off fruit and vegetable

472
00:24:35,893 --> 00:24:38,813
Speaker 2: and it ended up being too complicated and too unwildly

473
00:24:38,893 --> 00:24:42,052
Speaker 2: to try and localize in what is fruit and vegetable

474
00:24:42,093 --> 00:24:43,933
Speaker 2: when you look at other products that you know, you

475
00:24:44,293 --> 00:24:46,453
Speaker 2: have a fruit salad, do you take the GST off that?

476
00:24:46,573 --> 00:24:49,013
Speaker 2: It just became too complicated. And I know Labour still

477
00:24:49,013 --> 00:24:51,853
Speaker 2: has that policy ready to go if they do become

478
00:24:51,893 --> 00:24:55,533
Speaker 2: the next government. But then localizing a reduction in GST

479
00:24:55,813 --> 00:24:59,173
Speaker 2: for the short term at the petrol pump seems very

480
00:24:59,173 --> 00:25:00,973
Speaker 2: complicated as well. But what do you say, oh, eight

481
00:25:01,133 --> 00:25:03,293
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number? Of course,

482
00:25:03,333 --> 00:25:05,933
Speaker 2: So it was Nikola Willis right when she said now

483
00:25:06,053 --> 00:25:08,413
Speaker 2: is not the time for relief at the pumps? Or

484
00:25:08,493 --> 00:25:10,413
Speaker 2: do you think the government should be stepping in at

485
00:25:10,453 --> 00:25:14,053
Speaker 2: this point? And how have your daily habits changed with

486
00:25:14,133 --> 00:25:16,573
Speaker 2: the price of petrol. Are you still doing the same

487
00:25:16,613 --> 00:25:18,373
Speaker 2: thing as you've always done. You've still got the two

488
00:25:18,413 --> 00:25:22,133
Speaker 2: cars operating, you're not using public transport, you're just adding

489
00:25:22,133 --> 00:25:24,053
Speaker 2: it to the budget. Or are you starting to change

490
00:25:24,093 --> 00:25:26,973
Speaker 2: the way you do things? Keen to hear your stories.

491
00:25:27,013 --> 00:25:30,173
Speaker 2: It is twenty two to two back free surely.

492
00:25:31,333 --> 00:25:33,733
Speaker 1: To have a chat with Matt and Tyler on OH

493
00:25:33,813 --> 00:25:36,493
Speaker 1: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Matt Heathan Tyler Adams

494
00:25:36,533 --> 00:25:38,013
Speaker 1: afternoons with Skoda.

495
00:25:38,173 --> 00:25:40,413
Speaker 3: Can you crack the scoder code us dog.

496
00:25:40,293 --> 00:25:43,133
Speaker 2: Z'b nineteen to one. So we're talking about the pressure

497
00:25:43,173 --> 00:25:45,013
Speaker 2: at the pumps at the moment. Nicola Willis was on

498
00:25:45,093 --> 00:25:48,653
Speaker 2: with Mike this morning and indicated at this stage there's

499
00:25:48,693 --> 00:25:52,053
Speaker 2: no plans to offer any sort of subsidy or relief

500
00:25:52,173 --> 00:25:54,853
Speaker 2: at the pump. Is that the right decision or does

501
00:25:54,893 --> 00:25:56,573
Speaker 2: the government need to step in? Oh eight hundred and

502
00:25:56,573 --> 00:25:59,053
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty is that number to call? Plenty of

503
00:25:59,053 --> 00:26:01,293
Speaker 2: texts coming through on nine two ninety two. This one

504
00:26:01,373 --> 00:26:04,373
Speaker 2: says Hi Tyler, the barrel is back to eighty six

505
00:26:04,413 --> 00:26:07,373
Speaker 2: dollars today. While why are fuel stations so quick to

506
00:26:07,453 --> 00:26:12,133
Speaker 2: sting us but so slow to lower prices. That's from Janus,

507
00:26:12,613 --> 00:26:16,373
Speaker 2: and there's a few in a similar vein to that one. Tyler,

508
00:26:16,413 --> 00:26:20,173
Speaker 2: why is the cost of fuel gone up in rapid

509
00:26:20,213 --> 00:26:23,173
Speaker 2: time now when it's dropped again back to eighty dollars

510
00:26:23,173 --> 00:26:27,213
Speaker 2: a barrel, We're not seeing the price decrease. And the

511
00:26:27,213 --> 00:26:28,653
Speaker 2: information I've going in front of me is just from

512
00:26:28,693 --> 00:26:30,733
Speaker 2: the AA. And we spoke to Terry Collins, he's the

513
00:26:30,733 --> 00:26:33,493
Speaker 2: fuel expert with the AA, a couple of days yesterday

514
00:26:33,533 --> 00:26:37,533
Speaker 2: in fact, and he mentioned what they call the rocket

515
00:26:37,533 --> 00:26:39,573
Speaker 2: and feather effects. I'll just read a week quote here

516
00:26:39,573 --> 00:26:41,853
Speaker 2: that he did say to the Herald from the AA,

517
00:26:41,933 --> 00:26:43,653
Speaker 2: we don't want to have what is known as the

518
00:26:43,693 --> 00:26:46,812
Speaker 2: rocket and feather effect when due to these geopolitical events

519
00:26:46,853 --> 00:26:50,173
Speaker 2: the price rockets up. Then when it's subsides and the

520
00:26:50,213 --> 00:26:53,373
Speaker 2: price of oil comes down, we don't want to see

521
00:26:53,373 --> 00:26:57,053
Speaker 2: the prices come down like a feather. And clearly people

522
00:26:57,093 --> 00:26:59,453
Speaker 2: are seeing that at the moment, and it does get

523
00:26:59,453 --> 00:27:02,373
Speaker 2: complicated with the oil companies trying to buy futures and

524
00:27:02,413 --> 00:27:04,973
Speaker 2: trying to manage that risk, but the AA are keeping

525
00:27:05,013 --> 00:27:07,493
Speaker 2: a close eye on it. And as I understand the

526
00:27:07,493 --> 00:27:10,973
Speaker 2: government and Nickel, what has set up the Communist Commission

527
00:27:11,053 --> 00:27:13,573
Speaker 2: to eye it as well. So there'll be plenty more

528
00:27:13,613 --> 00:27:16,813
Speaker 2: to come on that, whether they are being fair and

529
00:27:16,813 --> 00:27:18,893
Speaker 2: how they are reducing the price and how they're raising

530
00:27:18,893 --> 00:27:21,653
Speaker 2: the price. But certainly there'll be more to come on that. Alan,

531
00:27:21,693 --> 00:27:22,733
Speaker 2: how are you this afternoon?

532
00:27:23,493 --> 00:27:27,213
Speaker 13: I fine, Thanks Tarner. Actually a good point you made there.

533
00:27:27,653 --> 00:27:31,213
Speaker 13: I think that is where the government has a position

534
00:27:31,333 --> 00:27:34,093
Speaker 13: to play, keeping an eye on the fuel companies and

535
00:27:34,213 --> 00:27:39,333
Speaker 13: increasing and decreasing at a steady rate, which if the way,

536
00:27:39,373 --> 00:27:44,533
Speaker 13: it goes at a prudent time, and not doing it premature.

537
00:27:44,933 --> 00:27:48,053
Speaker 13: So that's where the government should be putting a lot

538
00:27:48,053 --> 00:27:51,013
Speaker 13: of it's focusing on making sure the fuel companies are

539
00:27:51,013 --> 00:27:52,253
Speaker 13: honest in that aspect.

540
00:27:52,413 --> 00:27:54,413
Speaker 2: I just hope they can do something Gallan, because I'm

541
00:27:54,493 --> 00:27:57,572
Speaker 2: so sick of all these watchdogs and these you know,

542
00:27:57,973 --> 00:28:02,613
Speaker 2: investigations and reports set up ad nauseum that we've seen

543
00:28:02,613 --> 00:28:05,093
Speaker 2: it with the supermarkets, the banks, the fuel companies a

544
00:28:05,093 --> 00:28:06,933
Speaker 2: couple of years ago, and now she's set up there

545
00:28:07,093 --> 00:28:09,093
Speaker 2: or told the Commust Commission to keep an eye on them.

546
00:28:09,333 --> 00:28:12,213
Speaker 2: That's all well and good, but unless they actually do

547
00:28:12,333 --> 00:28:15,053
Speaker 2: something and can give people black and white answers as

548
00:28:15,093 --> 00:28:17,413
Speaker 2: to why it goes up so fast and why isn't

549
00:28:17,453 --> 00:28:20,013
Speaker 2: it coming down to the same extent. To me, it's

550
00:28:20,053 --> 00:28:22,333
Speaker 2: just fascical. And look, I live in hope that this

551
00:28:22,373 --> 00:28:24,573
Speaker 2: time the Communist Commission will actually do what they should

552
00:28:24,613 --> 00:28:27,733
Speaker 2: be doing and keeping us in the know and putting

553
00:28:27,733 --> 00:28:29,773
Speaker 2: some pressure on the petrol companies. But we'll wait and

554
00:28:29,773 --> 00:28:30,413
Speaker 2: see on that one.

555
00:28:31,173 --> 00:28:37,213
Speaker 13: Yeah, absolutely, first point slight correction on Marsden point. What

556
00:28:37,493 --> 00:28:40,533
Speaker 13: brought the end of life on Marson points? It was

557
00:28:40,653 --> 00:28:44,413
Speaker 13: running out, The plant was aging ouse it needed replacing,

558
00:28:45,173 --> 00:28:48,293
Speaker 13: and the consortium that owned it, the joint big three

559
00:28:48,653 --> 00:28:54,093
Speaker 13: fuel companies, didn't want to do the capital expenditure it

560
00:28:54,293 --> 00:28:59,053
Speaker 13: was round about four hundred million to upgrade it in

561
00:28:59,173 --> 00:29:02,773
Speaker 13: the areas that needed replacing, and they didn't want to

562
00:29:02,773 --> 00:29:06,093
Speaker 13: do that because it lovely dived into their shareholders and

563
00:29:06,173 --> 00:29:09,813
Speaker 13: at that point they offered it to lay to purchase

564
00:29:09,853 --> 00:29:13,373
Speaker 13: it back and with labor and mind they had their

565
00:29:13,413 --> 00:29:17,173
Speaker 13: mindset of shutting down the whole fossil fuel side. They

566
00:29:17,213 --> 00:29:20,653
Speaker 13: said no, So that's their mistake. They could have got

567
00:29:20,693 --> 00:29:24,333
Speaker 13: the whole plant back for a song and we could

568
00:29:24,373 --> 00:29:29,373
Speaker 13: have been in a more resilient position. And that is

569
00:29:29,693 --> 00:29:34,293
Speaker 13: also long term the government should be looking at that rezillion.

570
00:29:34,493 --> 00:29:36,493
Speaker 2: Just on that alan And sorry to jump in there,

571
00:29:37,333 --> 00:29:39,693
Speaker 2: and I hear what you're saying, because times like this

572
00:29:39,813 --> 00:29:41,893
Speaker 2: is when we all look back at those decisions and say,

573
00:29:41,893 --> 00:29:44,013
Speaker 2: why didn't we we think about this. You know, there's

574
00:29:44,013 --> 00:29:48,053
Speaker 2: always geopolitical incidents happening, and we've certainly seen a lot

575
00:29:48,093 --> 00:29:51,013
Speaker 2: of them in the past twelve months. But correct me

576
00:29:51,053 --> 00:29:53,973
Speaker 2: if I'm wrong. But at the time, many analysts, including

577
00:29:53,973 --> 00:29:55,893
Speaker 2: the government of the day, looked at it and thought

578
00:29:55,933 --> 00:30:00,413
Speaker 2: and saw the economic reality and the payback for that refinery,

579
00:30:00,413 --> 00:30:03,533
Speaker 2: and at that point in time, the economics did not

580
00:30:03,693 --> 00:30:06,213
Speaker 2: stack up. And then they went to what we now

581
00:30:06,333 --> 00:30:09,013
Speaker 2: know is primarily importing the fuel that we need into

582
00:30:09,013 --> 00:30:12,773
Speaker 2: this country, which when times are good, incredibly efficient and cheap.

583
00:30:12,813 --> 00:30:15,213
Speaker 2: When times are bad like they are now in terms

584
00:30:15,253 --> 00:30:18,213
Speaker 2: of the oil supply chain, then that's where we get

585
00:30:18,213 --> 00:30:20,413
Speaker 2: into a little bit more trouble. But my point is

586
00:30:20,493 --> 00:30:23,293
Speaker 2: that at that point in time, looking at the economic return,

587
00:30:23,733 --> 00:30:26,213
Speaker 2: it probably did make sense to not take that on.

588
00:30:27,333 --> 00:30:29,493
Speaker 13: That that was true, but they didn't put in the

589
00:30:29,533 --> 00:30:34,093
Speaker 13: factor of resilience, the country being resilient to a shock

590
00:30:34,133 --> 00:30:38,013
Speaker 13: wavers such as this Australia is in exactly the same position.

591
00:30:38,533 --> 00:30:41,093
Speaker 13: The oil they pull out of the ground goes orf,

592
00:30:41,093 --> 00:30:44,533
Speaker 13: gets refined, and they purchase in their fuel in the

593
00:30:44,573 --> 00:30:49,493
Speaker 13: form they need it. Diesel, petrol and aviation fuel all

594
00:30:49,533 --> 00:30:51,653
Speaker 13: comes in on the back of a ship exactly the

595
00:30:51,693 --> 00:30:54,013
Speaker 13: same as US, except they have a bit more storage

596
00:30:54,053 --> 00:30:57,333
Speaker 13: capacity than US, only by about an extra ten days.

597
00:30:58,133 --> 00:31:02,173
Speaker 13: So they're looking at their situation because their two plants

598
00:31:02,173 --> 00:31:04,133
Speaker 13: are shut down in Australia as well.

599
00:31:05,213 --> 00:31:09,613
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, companies cost.

600
00:31:09,373 --> 00:31:13,333
Speaker 13: Efficiency, they look at that bottom dollar and they just

601
00:31:13,413 --> 00:31:16,133
Speaker 13: look at the profit margin and that's all they look at.

602
00:31:16,853 --> 00:31:20,213
Speaker 2: Would you agree it would be nonsensical to look at

603
00:31:20,613 --> 00:31:23,093
Speaker 2: at recommissioning Marsden point at the stage.

604
00:31:22,853 --> 00:31:27,293
Speaker 13: On absolutely not. I feel we should take it under

605
00:31:27,333 --> 00:31:33,613
Speaker 13: a national policy and nationalize the plant. It needs rebuilding

606
00:31:33,653 --> 00:31:37,813
Speaker 13: because it couldn't handle high grade oil. Now they struck

607
00:31:37,813 --> 00:31:42,053
Speaker 13: oil off Taranaki's coast and it's high grade. When they

608
00:31:42,333 --> 00:31:44,933
Speaker 13: modernize the plant, they may need to make it so

609
00:31:44,973 --> 00:31:49,173
Speaker 13: it can handle pall grade and high grade and then

610
00:31:49,213 --> 00:31:52,013
Speaker 13: you can cover the field. If we haven't got enough

611
00:31:52,053 --> 00:31:54,333
Speaker 13: oil at the time, you can buy in a tanker

612
00:31:54,373 --> 00:31:58,533
Speaker 13: of low grade oil and refine it. You don't have

613
00:31:58,613 --> 00:32:01,693
Speaker 13: to bring it down and ready made form. And then

614
00:32:01,693 --> 00:32:05,173
Speaker 13: you've got all the byside of all the refinery. You've

615
00:32:05,173 --> 00:32:10,253
Speaker 13: got cogeneration, tar manufacturing that we can achieve. We don't

616
00:32:10,293 --> 00:32:15,813
Speaker 13: have to import it. It's a downstream run. So and

617
00:32:15,973 --> 00:32:19,293
Speaker 13: we own the ground up there instead of letting it

618
00:32:19,333 --> 00:32:22,733
Speaker 13: be owned by foreign owners and having tanks on it.

619
00:32:22,813 --> 00:32:25,013
Speaker 13: We need to be resilient down here. We're at the

620
00:32:25,013 --> 00:32:28,173
Speaker 13: bottom end of the world. Nobody cares even.

621
00:32:27,933 --> 00:32:31,693
Speaker 2: At the upper upper level of sixteen billion dollars Ellen.

622
00:32:31,733 --> 00:32:33,853
Speaker 2: We was chatting to an expert yesterday and he said

623
00:32:33,853 --> 00:32:36,253
Speaker 2: it was anywhere between six to sixteen there's a big

624
00:32:36,293 --> 00:32:39,093
Speaker 2: gap billion to recommission that Marsden point if it's at

625
00:32:39,093 --> 00:32:41,533
Speaker 2: the upper limit, and as we know, these projects always

626
00:32:41,533 --> 00:32:43,773
Speaker 2: blow out. Is that a comfortable figure for you?

627
00:32:45,493 --> 00:32:48,013
Speaker 13: It is when you look at how much is spent

628
00:32:48,093 --> 00:32:51,213
Speaker 13: on fuel, you may so how much we spend on fuel.

629
00:32:51,253 --> 00:32:54,533
Speaker 13: This country runs on fuel still and still will for

630
00:32:54,573 --> 00:32:58,213
Speaker 13: the next fifty sixty years, So it's not a lost Friday.

631
00:33:00,453 --> 00:33:04,813
Speaker 13: So therefore back to the other argument. Yeah, the only

632
00:33:04,853 --> 00:33:08,333
Speaker 13: reduction in travel I wouldn't be doing any myself. First,

633
00:33:08,533 --> 00:33:11,413
Speaker 13: I've still got to go to work because I drive

634
00:33:11,453 --> 00:33:13,253
Speaker 13: for a living, so I got to get to where

635
00:33:13,293 --> 00:33:16,293
Speaker 13: my place of work is. And that's it. Still, go

636
00:33:16,373 --> 00:33:20,973
Speaker 13: get the groceries. The young fella in our family, he'll

637
00:33:21,733 --> 00:33:25,613
Speaker 13: curve his driving around where he just splits off. I

638
00:33:25,733 --> 00:33:27,613
Speaker 13: want to go see a mate, I want to go here.

639
00:33:28,413 --> 00:33:31,293
Speaker 13: He'll because he has to fuel his own vehicle. That's

640
00:33:31,333 --> 00:33:32,613
Speaker 13: where we'll see the reduction.

641
00:33:33,053 --> 00:33:36,253
Speaker 2: Yes, well, and thank you very much for your call,

642
00:33:36,293 --> 00:33:39,093
Speaker 2: and you make some great points. Really appreciate your giving

643
00:33:39,173 --> 00:33:42,013
Speaker 2: us a buzz i. How are you this afternoon?

644
00:33:42,733 --> 00:33:45,093
Speaker 15: I'm good, note really good. I mean a lot of

645
00:33:45,093 --> 00:33:46,693
Speaker 15: the questions that I was going to put it being

646
00:33:46,813 --> 00:33:49,613
Speaker 15: sort of partially answered. But what I want to know

647
00:33:49,733 --> 00:33:52,413
Speaker 15: is just exactly what you said before, is that you

648
00:33:52,413 --> 00:33:56,573
Speaker 15: know this the fuel prices coming down so slowly when

649
00:33:56,693 --> 00:34:00,933
Speaker 15: the price of a barrel of oil is fructrating at

650
00:34:00,973 --> 00:34:03,413
Speaker 15: the moment, we don't see any fluctuation here down. We

651
00:34:03,493 --> 00:34:08,692
Speaker 15: only see it fluctuating. That's number one. And I hope

652
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Speaker 15: that the Commerce Commission are going to grow some balls

653
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Speaker 15: and actually get stuck into the field companies and make

654
00:34:14,813 --> 00:34:18,733
Speaker 15: sure that the prices that they're actually putting at the

655
00:34:18,813 --> 00:34:24,213
Speaker 15: pump actually the costs that we actually should be paying

656
00:34:24,613 --> 00:34:27,293
Speaker 15: depending on what the price of a bottle of oil is.

657
00:34:27,373 --> 00:34:29,692
Speaker 15: So that's number one of my issues, and I see

658
00:34:29,733 --> 00:34:32,732
Speaker 15: it happening all the time, you know. I mean, if

659
00:34:32,773 --> 00:34:35,893
Speaker 15: one company can actually fluctuate their price, the other one

660
00:34:35,933 --> 00:34:37,853
Speaker 15: should be able to do it as well. Okay, so

661
00:34:37,973 --> 00:34:41,373
Speaker 15: there's a few companies around this country that actually are

662
00:34:41,413 --> 00:34:46,133
Speaker 15: prepared to actually make petrol and diesel at a reasonable price,

663
00:34:46,573 --> 00:34:48,453
Speaker 15: but at the moment, it's all over the place. The

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Speaker 15: other thing that I'm actually really concerned about is that,

665
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Speaker 15: you know, the decommissioning of Massen Point was just fascical,

666
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Speaker 15: and I want people to realize that that was done

667
00:35:00,453 --> 00:35:03,573
Speaker 15: by a labor government. A labor government then went into

668
00:35:03,613 --> 00:35:07,613
Speaker 15: the mode of actually stopping it from actually being recommissioned.

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Speaker 15: I understand that we needed to spend money on it,

670
00:35:10,613 --> 00:35:14,533
Speaker 15: but when money was just given out willy nilly during

671
00:35:14,533 --> 00:35:18,813
Speaker 15: the COVID pandemic and now we're paying huge amount of

672
00:35:18,813 --> 00:35:22,093
Speaker 15: money to try and pay that get off, were actually

673
00:35:22,133 --> 00:35:24,373
Speaker 15: doing that, but they weren't prepared to actually then go

674
00:35:24,453 --> 00:35:29,333
Speaker 15: in and buy Marsden Point at a filesale price, and

675
00:35:29,373 --> 00:35:31,373
Speaker 15: then we didn't have to do it straight away. But

676
00:35:31,493 --> 00:35:35,133
Speaker 15: slowly but surely get stuck in and make Marsden Point

677
00:35:35,173 --> 00:35:38,692
Speaker 15: a reality for us, and then we're not in this

678
00:35:38,733 --> 00:35:42,733
Speaker 15: position that we're in now. I mean, they found oil

679
00:35:43,533 --> 00:35:46,973
Speaker 15: out of Taraniki, and of course we couldn't process it.

680
00:35:47,293 --> 00:35:50,813
Speaker 15: They found oil in the Hawk's Bay. We couldn't process it,

681
00:35:51,293 --> 00:35:53,133
Speaker 15: and so what did we get out of it? No,

682
00:35:53,533 --> 00:35:58,493
Speaker 15: we're anything out of it. So we can't actually refine

683
00:35:58,533 --> 00:36:02,493
Speaker 15: our own oil or refine oil here to make prices

684
00:36:02,733 --> 00:36:06,252
Speaker 15: better for the individual. Then what are we And I'm

685
00:36:06,293 --> 00:36:08,333
Speaker 15: hoping that people are going to look out there and say,

686
00:36:08,653 --> 00:36:11,613
Speaker 15: when the voting comes to it, look at what money

687
00:36:11,773 --> 00:36:16,773
Speaker 15: was actually wasted? Absolutely wasted. D Yeah, there was some

688
00:36:16,813 --> 00:36:18,893
Speaker 15: stuff that had to be done, but there was other

689
00:36:19,133 --> 00:36:22,172
Speaker 15: that had no reason to be done, no reason at all.

690
00:36:22,933 --> 00:36:25,333
Speaker 2: Good on your end. You're passionate about it, and I'll

691
00:36:25,333 --> 00:36:28,133
Speaker 2: pick up on your thoughts just after we play some messages.

692
00:36:28,173 --> 00:36:31,253
Speaker 2: It is eight minutes to two, Mad.

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Speaker 1: Heath Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred eighty eighty.

694
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Speaker 1: It's mad Heathen Tyler Adams. Afternoons news talks.

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Speaker 15: There be.

696
00:36:40,733 --> 00:36:42,013
Speaker 2: Five to two. Get a stand.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, good, Hey guys, lord, I'd like to know the

698
00:36:46,133 --> 00:36:51,253
Speaker 16: mechanism behind the pricing by the oil companies. I mean,

699
00:36:51,253 --> 00:36:54,493
Speaker 16: we're seeing this rocket and feather effect. I would like

700
00:36:54,573 --> 00:36:57,732
Speaker 16: to know how they tell us we've got forty odd

701
00:36:57,853 --> 00:37:03,253
Speaker 16: days reserves. How come those reserves brought at cheap prices

702
00:37:03,333 --> 00:37:07,853
Speaker 16: or cheaper prices are now suddenly charging being charged to

703
00:37:08,413 --> 00:37:15,333
Speaker 16: the consumers at today's price per barrel or I just

704
00:37:15,413 --> 00:37:18,533
Speaker 16: don't don't understand how they get away with it, to

705
00:37:18,573 --> 00:37:19,493
Speaker 16: be honest.

706
00:37:19,613 --> 00:37:23,333
Speaker 2: It's a good question. And this is not a phenomena,

707
00:37:23,693 --> 00:37:25,773
Speaker 2: you know, unique to us. It's happening all around the

708
00:37:25,773 --> 00:37:27,973
Speaker 2: world and I'll be just been trying to do some

709
00:37:28,013 --> 00:37:32,453
Speaker 2: research into it, and there are watchdogs happening across the

710
00:37:32,453 --> 00:37:35,333
Speaker 2: world in the UK, not so much the US, but

711
00:37:35,493 --> 00:37:38,133
Speaker 2: Singapore and Asia as well, to keep a watch on

712
00:37:38,173 --> 00:37:40,333
Speaker 2: those petrol companies because, as you say, that is an

713
00:37:40,413 --> 00:37:43,093
Speaker 2: industry that quite often has that rocket and feather approach

714
00:37:43,133 --> 00:37:46,933
Speaker 2: when it comes to pricing. And hopefully, as another caller said,

715
00:37:46,933 --> 00:37:49,172
Speaker 2: the Commerce Commission who's been charged with keeping an eye

716
00:37:49,213 --> 00:37:51,692
Speaker 2: on it, does actually keep an eye on it and

717
00:37:51,733 --> 00:37:55,093
Speaker 2: if they see some irregularities, they actually have some teeth

718
00:37:55,093 --> 00:37:56,453
Speaker 2: and some balls to do something about it.

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Speaker 16: Well, We've been here before the Commerce Commission looking at

720
00:38:01,293 --> 00:38:04,853
Speaker 16: market practices of oil companies and nothing sat and I

721
00:38:04,933 --> 00:38:08,693
Speaker 16: sort of wonder how secretive is that pricing mechanism? Because

722
00:38:08,733 --> 00:38:11,493
Speaker 16: this is where we really need clarity. It's a consumer

723
00:38:11,573 --> 00:38:16,172
Speaker 16: can see how and why prices down. I think we've

724
00:38:16,213 --> 00:38:17,013
Speaker 16: been accepting.

725
00:38:17,093 --> 00:38:20,453
Speaker 2: But it's Seriopeake, yeah, good on your stand. You summ

726
00:38:20,493 --> 00:38:23,373
Speaker 2: that up. Very nice, and thank you to everybody who

727
00:38:23,453 --> 00:38:26,493
Speaker 2: called in text on that. There's a text from a

728
00:38:26,493 --> 00:38:30,133
Speaker 2: man called Patrick Phelps. He is he works an energy

729
00:38:30,133 --> 00:38:31,533
Speaker 2: over in the West Coast. I'm going to read that

730
00:38:31,573 --> 00:38:34,133
Speaker 2: out after two o'clock. But we also want to have

731
00:38:34,173 --> 00:38:37,173
Speaker 2: a chat about athletics New Zealand. Should we be investing

732
00:38:37,213 --> 00:38:40,773
Speaker 2: more into grassroots athletics? Athletics New Zealand wants the government

733
00:38:41,093 --> 00:38:45,133
Speaker 2: to invest in a new stadium focused on athletics athletes,

734
00:38:45,413 --> 00:38:47,293
Speaker 2: but what is it like at the school and the

735
00:38:47,333 --> 00:38:50,853
Speaker 2: grassroots level? That is coming up. News is next, the.

736
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Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything

737
00:38:55,413 --> 00:38:59,013
Speaker 1: in between. It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons with

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Speaker 2: Very good Afternoons here, welcome back into the show. It

740
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741
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745
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749
00:39:30,773 --> 00:39:34,093
Speaker 2: minutes give or take. Just before we get into the

750
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Speaker 2: next topic, I saw a text here that came through

751
00:39:37,533 --> 00:39:41,013
Speaker 2: from a man called Patrick of Phelps. He runs minerals

752
00:39:41,053 --> 00:39:43,533
Speaker 2: West Coast and a very knowledgeable man when it comes

753
00:39:43,573 --> 00:39:46,213
Speaker 2: to energy in this country. And he just responded to

754
00:39:46,653 --> 00:39:49,133
Speaker 2: our discussion we had last hour about whether the government

755
00:39:49,173 --> 00:39:52,573
Speaker 2: should jump in to offer some relief at the pumps

756
00:39:52,653 --> 00:39:55,812
Speaker 2: when petrol prices are starting to skyrocket. And it says

757
00:39:55,853 --> 00:39:59,292
Speaker 2: this GeTe Tyler. The governments have no magic wand neither

758
00:39:59,293 --> 00:40:02,732
Speaker 2: Willis nor the civil servants she commands can make more

759
00:40:02,813 --> 00:40:05,453
Speaker 2: leaders of fuel available at a lower price. Setting maximum

760
00:40:05,533 --> 00:40:09,692
Speaker 2: pricing create shortages, it is more possible petrol companies are

761
00:40:09,733 --> 00:40:13,013
Speaker 2: pricing in future supply chain risks and ensuring they have

762
00:40:13,053 --> 00:40:16,813
Speaker 2: funds to purchase more fuel. If consumers spend more on fuel,

763
00:40:16,893 --> 00:40:20,293
Speaker 2: they will have less and aggregate so to spend elsewhere

764
00:40:20,293 --> 00:40:23,652
Speaker 2: in the economy. So GST will not change substantially if

765
00:40:23,733 --> 00:40:27,853
Speaker 2: taxes on fuel are reduced, but spending remains constant. Only

766
00:40:27,893 --> 00:40:30,453
Speaker 2: borrowing can cover the difference and will pay for it

767
00:40:30,493 --> 00:40:34,053
Speaker 2: through taxes to fund interest. Prices will rise for some time,

768
00:40:34,213 --> 00:40:37,013
Speaker 2: and the price system will cause the most sensible rationing

769
00:40:37,293 --> 00:40:42,053
Speaker 2: of our temporarily scarcer resource until more supply is brought

770
00:40:42,093 --> 00:40:45,213
Speaker 2: to market due to the producers supplies having the incentive

771
00:40:45,293 --> 00:40:48,172
Speaker 2: of higher returns, Politicians mucking around with things will cause

772
00:40:48,213 --> 00:40:51,293
Speaker 2: no end of problems. Apologies for the long message. Not

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00:40:51,333 --> 00:40:53,733
Speaker 2: in a position to call. That's from Patrick, and I

774
00:40:53,733 --> 00:40:56,493
Speaker 2: think that makes some very very valid points when we

775
00:40:56,573 --> 00:41:00,613
Speaker 2: talk about government intervention into a market like the price

776
00:41:00,773 --> 00:41:04,013
Speaker 2: of petrol, and just to the texts and the caller

777
00:41:04,093 --> 00:41:06,373
Speaker 2: is talking about the rocket and feather effect when it

778
00:41:06,373 --> 00:41:09,253
Speaker 2: comes to petrol, prices goes up very far US and

779
00:41:09,453 --> 00:41:13,893
Speaker 2: seems to drop pretty slowly just from some research over

780
00:41:13,933 --> 00:41:17,053
Speaker 2: the news break. So this is analysis from an economist

781
00:41:17,173 --> 00:41:20,453
Speaker 2: called marat Unger. He is with a Targo University. So

782
00:41:20,533 --> 00:41:23,213
Speaker 2: here's his take on why this rocket and feather effect

783
00:41:23,453 --> 00:41:25,573
Speaker 2: seems to happen in the oil industry, and it's not

784
00:41:25,653 --> 00:41:27,693
Speaker 2: unique to New Zealand. It happens in the UK and

785
00:41:27,853 --> 00:41:31,093
Speaker 2: other places, and their Commerce Commission equivalent is looking into

786
00:41:31,133 --> 00:41:34,053
Speaker 2: it as well. But he thinks there's urgency when costs rise,

787
00:41:34,133 --> 00:41:37,573
Speaker 2: so petrol stations quickly raise prices to avoid losses as

788
00:41:37,613 --> 00:41:41,973
Speaker 2: they replace stock at higher costs. Less urgency when those

789
00:41:42,013 --> 00:41:45,373
Speaker 2: costs fall, so when the oil prices decline gradually, retailers

790
00:41:45,373 --> 00:41:48,613
Speaker 2: can keep pump prices higher longer because many drivers don't

791
00:41:48,653 --> 00:41:53,172
Speaker 2: immediately shop around for cheaper fuel. Consumer behavior drivers tend

792
00:41:53,173 --> 00:41:57,053
Speaker 2: to notice and complain about price increases more than slow decreases,

793
00:41:57,573 --> 00:42:00,933
Speaker 2: and market structure and search costs, limited competition and the

794
00:42:00,973 --> 00:42:05,213
Speaker 2: effort it takes drivers to compare prices help sustain higher

795
00:42:05,213 --> 00:42:08,813
Speaker 2: prices for longer. So that's his analysis, and there is

796
00:42:08,853 --> 00:42:11,293
Speaker 2: an impact in New Zealand. We've spoken about the Commerce

797
00:42:11,333 --> 00:42:15,573
Speaker 2: Commission and a report last year found that this pricing

798
00:42:15,613 --> 00:42:18,413
Speaker 2: pattern means petrol companies raise prices faster than they lower

799
00:42:18,453 --> 00:42:22,053
Speaker 2: them costing motorists and estimated fifteen million a year if

800
00:42:22,133 --> 00:42:25,293
Speaker 2: drops were as quick as raises. But there is some

801
00:42:25,373 --> 00:42:28,732
Speaker 2: debates around this, and as mentioned, the Commerce Commission has

802
00:42:28,773 --> 00:42:31,212
Speaker 2: been assigned by Nikola Willis and the Government to keep

803
00:42:31,253 --> 00:42:33,573
Speaker 2: a close eye on it. So there'll be plenty more

804
00:42:33,653 --> 00:42:38,013
Speaker 2: on that as this situation continues to unfold. Right, thank

805
00:42:38,053 --> 00:42:40,293
Speaker 2: you once again for all your calls and texts on

806
00:42:40,333 --> 00:42:43,333
Speaker 2: that discussion. But let's have a chat about athletics in

807
00:42:43,653 --> 00:42:47,133
Speaker 2: New Zealand. So Athletics New Zealand, the organization it is

808
00:42:48,253 --> 00:42:52,413
Speaker 2: imploring the government rather to invest in a dedicated stadium

809
00:42:52,493 --> 00:42:55,692
Speaker 2: for athletics in New Zealand. This is ahead of our

810
00:42:55,733 --> 00:42:59,253
Speaker 2: bid for the twenty thirty four Commonwealth Game. So despite

811
00:42:59,293 --> 00:43:02,333
Speaker 2: the sport being one of the nations most successful at

812
00:43:02,333 --> 00:43:08,212
Speaker 2: the game's historically, our infrastructure and stadia dedicated to athletics

813
00:43:08,413 --> 00:43:11,133
Speaker 2: is pretty woful. Previous host venues such as Eden Park

814
00:43:11,173 --> 00:43:13,493
Speaker 2: and Mount Smart Stadium they are now of course focused

815
00:43:13,533 --> 00:43:16,853
Speaker 2: on other sports. And christ Church's q E two Stadium,

816
00:43:16,893 --> 00:43:20,413
Speaker 2: which was a phenomenal place to hold the Commonwealth Games

817
00:43:20,453 --> 00:43:22,413
Speaker 2: back in the seventies, it was lost back in the

818
00:43:22,533 --> 00:43:27,173
Speaker 2: twenty eleven earthquake and the rebuilt park is a shadow

819
00:43:27,253 --> 00:43:29,573
Speaker 2: of what it was back then. So that does leave

820
00:43:29,613 --> 00:43:32,573
Speaker 2: the country without a major athletics venue capable for hosting

821
00:43:32,613 --> 00:43:35,133
Speaker 2: these large events. So a couple of questions for you

822
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Speaker 2: on this. I do want to focus on athletics in

823
00:43:37,493 --> 00:43:40,133
Speaker 2: New Zealand at the grass roots. It does feel we're

824
00:43:40,133 --> 00:43:43,053
Speaker 2: in another golden era when it comes to our athletes

825
00:43:43,053 --> 00:43:47,293
Speaker 2: in those athletics around We've got Hamish Kerr who is

826
00:43:47,413 --> 00:43:50,652
Speaker 2: smashing it in the high jump. We've got Sam Ruth,

827
00:43:50,733 --> 00:43:54,733
Speaker 2: incredible youngster who again is smashing those times and breaking

828
00:43:54,773 --> 00:43:58,533
Speaker 2: record after record, and we've got Zobie Zoe Hobbs who's

829
00:43:59,093 --> 00:44:02,813
Speaker 2: achieving phenomenal things as well. So do we have a

830
00:44:02,853 --> 00:44:06,133
Speaker 2: problem with investment at the grassroots when it comes to athletics?

831
00:44:06,213 --> 00:44:09,053
Speaker 2: Is that still an option that your kids, will grandkids

832
00:44:09,093 --> 00:44:12,853
Speaker 2: are looking at. Is that they're they're that investment at

833
00:44:12,853 --> 00:44:17,293
Speaker 2: that school level to raise the next stars. When it

834
00:44:17,333 --> 00:44:22,173
Speaker 2: comes to runners, track and field, high jumpers, long jumpers,

835
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Speaker 2: the list goes on, oh eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty.

836
00:44:25,893 --> 00:44:29,333
Speaker 2: Is that number to call? Do you think the head

837
00:44:29,333 --> 00:44:31,692
Speaker 2: of Athletics New Zealander is right here? Do we need

838
00:44:31,733 --> 00:44:36,013
Speaker 2: to pump some money into dedicated athletics facilities to keep

839
00:44:36,053 --> 00:44:39,293
Speaker 2: shining on the world stage in this arena nine two

840
00:44:39,413 --> 00:44:41,333
Speaker 2: ninety two is the text as well. But if you've

841
00:44:41,333 --> 00:44:44,293
Speaker 2: got kids who compete in athletics, love to hear from you.

842
00:44:44,373 --> 00:44:47,253
Speaker 2: What are the facilities like at the school level and

843
00:44:47,413 --> 00:44:49,773
Speaker 2: do you agree with Athletics New Zealand that we need

844
00:44:49,813 --> 00:44:53,293
Speaker 2: to pump some serious money and investment to keep kicking

845
00:44:53,333 --> 00:44:56,333
Speaker 2: butt on the world stage when it comes to athletic disciplines.

846
00:44:56,653 --> 00:44:58,813
Speaker 2: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighties. That number to call

847
00:44:58,893 --> 00:44:59,853
Speaker 2: it is twelve past two.

848
00:44:59,933 --> 00:45:04,613
Speaker 8: Back for you, surely wo your home of afternoon talk

849
00:45:04,813 --> 00:45:09,493
Speaker 8: mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred youth

850
00:45:09,573 --> 00:45:10,213
Speaker 8: talk Ziby.

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00:45:12,493 --> 00:45:14,733
Speaker 2: It's quarter bars too. So we're talking about athletics in

852
00:45:14,773 --> 00:45:17,773
Speaker 2: New Zealand. There's a call from the organization Athletics New

853
00:45:17,813 --> 00:45:21,533
Speaker 2: Zealand funnily enough names that is asking the government for

854
00:45:21,573 --> 00:45:27,733
Speaker 2: a dedicated investment into a stadium focused on encouraging athletics

855
00:45:27,773 --> 00:45:30,573
Speaker 2: in this country. They say that our infrastructure is poor,

856
00:45:30,613 --> 00:45:33,093
Speaker 2: it does not keep up and if we're going to

857
00:45:33,133 --> 00:45:35,853
Speaker 2: make a bid for the twenty thirty four Commonwealth Games.

858
00:45:36,733 --> 00:45:39,213
Speaker 2: We probably are not in with a shot. When we

859
00:45:39,253 --> 00:45:41,853
Speaker 2: make our bids and the governing body of the Commonwealth

860
00:45:41,933 --> 00:45:44,093
Speaker 2: Games look at what we've got for athletics, which is

861
00:45:44,133 --> 00:45:46,773
Speaker 2: a major part of the Commonwealth Games, They're probably going

862
00:45:46,853 --> 00:45:49,453
Speaker 2: to say, no, sorry, you don't have what it takes

863
00:45:49,493 --> 00:45:51,253
Speaker 2: to be able to host this thing. But I want

864
00:45:51,293 --> 00:45:54,053
Speaker 2: to talk about the grassroots athletics, so they still having

865
00:45:54,133 --> 00:45:57,533
Speaker 2: regular athletic days at school. Clearly we punch about a

866
00:45:57,613 --> 00:46:00,733
Speaker 2: weight when it comes to our athletes in those disciplines,

867
00:46:00,733 --> 00:46:05,733
Speaker 2: particularly running, but jumping, Hamish, cur absolutely smashing it overseas

868
00:46:05,773 --> 00:46:11,373
Speaker 2: and multiple high jumping disciplines, throw combined events. We've got

869
00:46:11,493 --> 00:46:14,493
Speaker 2: Dame Valerie Adams one of our greatest, So we are

870
00:46:14,533 --> 00:46:18,013
Speaker 2: incredible when it comes to breeding these athletes in the

871
00:46:18,053 --> 00:46:20,573
Speaker 2: athletic field. But what is the investment like at that

872
00:46:20,653 --> 00:46:23,893
Speaker 2: grassroots level if you've got kids or grandkids involved, or

873
00:46:23,893 --> 00:46:26,533
Speaker 2: you're involved yourself. Keen to hear from you? Oh eight

874
00:46:26,653 --> 00:46:30,013
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number two? Call Pip?

875
00:46:30,053 --> 00:46:31,093
Speaker 2: How are you this afternoon?

876
00:46:32,173 --> 00:46:32,732
Speaker 17: I'm very good?

877
00:46:32,773 --> 00:46:33,212
Speaker 4: Thank you?

878
00:46:33,253 --> 00:46:34,172
Speaker 18: How are you good?

879
00:46:34,293 --> 00:46:37,893
Speaker 2: So you've got you're a mum of a fourteen year

880
00:46:37,893 --> 00:46:38,893
Speaker 2: old athlete. My mom.

881
00:46:39,253 --> 00:46:42,093
Speaker 17: I am a mom of three kids, and one of

882
00:46:42,133 --> 00:46:45,893
Speaker 17: them is right into athletics and as part of a

883
00:46:45,933 --> 00:46:50,173
Speaker 17: competitive program at her school, which is nothing short of

884
00:46:50,213 --> 00:46:54,973
Speaker 17: impressive if you ask me. And it's that thing about grassroots,

885
00:46:55,013 --> 00:46:58,973
Speaker 17: right you has to start somewhere and having a facility

886
00:46:59,373 --> 00:47:03,772
Speaker 17: dedicated to something like athletics, because athletics isn't just about

887
00:47:03,853 --> 00:47:07,573
Speaker 17: running and jumping. There's so many disciplines in there, and

888
00:47:07,813 --> 00:47:11,373
Speaker 17: these kids get access to try all these different things

889
00:47:11,453 --> 00:47:16,133
Speaker 17: until they kind of find their real talent and it

890
00:47:16,333 --> 00:47:19,133
Speaker 17: just opens it up to so many kids. And you know,

891
00:47:19,173 --> 00:47:22,013
Speaker 17: my kids are really lucky in terms of the school

892
00:47:22,013 --> 00:47:25,013
Speaker 17: they go to in the program, but even kids that

893
00:47:25,093 --> 00:47:27,773
Speaker 17: go to different schools, like you see the local clubs

894
00:47:27,813 --> 00:47:31,053
Speaker 17: around and you know, they might not have the flashest equipment,

895
00:47:31,253 --> 00:47:33,853
Speaker 17: but they're still like giving it. They're all and some

896
00:47:33,933 --> 00:47:36,453
Speaker 17: of the competitions we've been for all these kids all

897
00:47:36,493 --> 00:47:40,413
Speaker 17: mix in from private schools to you know, normal schools

898
00:47:40,453 --> 00:47:43,693
Speaker 17: to you know, all the schools in the areas and

899
00:47:43,733 --> 00:47:45,813
Speaker 17: it's so cool to see and the kids are brilliant.

900
00:47:46,333 --> 00:47:48,813
Speaker 2: So that's awesome to hear. So that investment at the

901
00:47:48,813 --> 00:47:51,493
Speaker 2: grassroots or at the school level, is it quite significant

902
00:47:51,573 --> 00:47:54,173
Speaker 2: or clearly there's a lot of people behind the scenes

903
00:47:54,493 --> 00:47:57,493
Speaker 2: that are so passionate about athletics and you know, encouraging

904
00:47:57,973 --> 00:48:01,053
Speaker 2: that the next up and comers, hopefully like your your child.

905
00:48:01,333 --> 00:48:04,733
Speaker 17: Is yeah, I mean yeah we I mean it takes

906
00:48:04,733 --> 00:48:07,253
Speaker 17: an army, doesn't it to get these organized, and like

907
00:48:07,293 --> 00:48:11,013
Speaker 17: lots of volunteers. Everybody throws their you know, help if

908
00:48:11,053 --> 00:48:14,853
Speaker 17: they can. But like what I mean is, you know,

909
00:48:14,853 --> 00:48:17,173
Speaker 17: if you've got someone like who loves high jumping, and

910
00:48:17,213 --> 00:48:19,453
Speaker 17: they might be like my daughter does it and she

911
00:48:19,613 --> 00:48:22,133
Speaker 17: started in the backyard with a couple of broomsticks in

912
00:48:22,173 --> 00:48:23,253
Speaker 17: the washing machine, you.

913
00:48:23,173 --> 00:48:24,053
Speaker 19: Know, the washing.

914
00:48:25,573 --> 00:48:30,213
Speaker 17: You know, like that's real grass roots And I remember

915
00:48:30,253 --> 00:48:32,172
Speaker 17: doing it at school and we jumped into a pit

916
00:48:32,253 --> 00:48:35,213
Speaker 17: of saw dust, you know, we didn't have the big pads.

917
00:48:35,253 --> 00:48:37,732
Speaker 17: And but imagine going to a stadium and you've got

918
00:48:37,773 --> 00:48:40,013
Speaker 17: access to that and you can go to train and

919
00:48:40,053 --> 00:48:43,213
Speaker 17: you can go to Like it's just we should we

920
00:48:43,253 --> 00:48:46,693
Speaker 17: should encourage it because it's such a cool sport and

921
00:48:46,733 --> 00:48:50,973
Speaker 17: it's so much that kid can do and love it,

922
00:48:51,093 --> 00:48:54,773
Speaker 17: you know, and all shapes and sizes and different demographic

923
00:48:54,853 --> 00:48:56,453
Speaker 17: backgrounds and stuff like that.

924
00:48:56,573 --> 00:48:58,533
Speaker 2: So is it still a lot of support behind it

925
00:48:58,973 --> 00:49:02,652
Speaker 2: because I agree with everything you're saying that. You know,

926
00:49:02,733 --> 00:49:06,013
Speaker 2: you want the ability for the kids competing in these

927
00:49:06,053 --> 00:49:08,693
Speaker 2: different events to have the crowd and to have a

928
00:49:08,733 --> 00:49:10,773
Speaker 2: whole bunch of parents in the community to come in

929
00:49:10,893 --> 00:49:12,973
Speaker 2: and see that. And I know when I was a kid,

930
00:49:13,333 --> 00:49:15,733
Speaker 2: I did a bit of running and that existed that

931
00:49:15,773 --> 00:49:18,573
Speaker 2: the community got right in behind it. But I worry

932
00:49:18,573 --> 00:49:20,893
Speaker 2: we put a bit too much focus and maybe other

933
00:49:21,013 --> 00:49:24,373
Speaker 2: sports at the detriment of athletics. But if that's not happening,

934
00:49:24,453 --> 00:49:25,133
Speaker 2: that's a wonderful thing.

935
00:49:25,933 --> 00:49:29,533
Speaker 17: I mean, I maybe because my daughter's involved, so I

936
00:49:29,573 --> 00:49:32,573
Speaker 17: see what you're saying, because you know, historically it's always

937
00:49:32,573 --> 00:49:35,013
Speaker 17: been sort of rugby or netball and the sort of

938
00:49:35,013 --> 00:49:37,813
Speaker 17: four main sports in New Zealand as kids growing up.

939
00:49:38,653 --> 00:49:41,093
Speaker 17: But now I think there's a lot of focus on

940
00:49:41,173 --> 00:49:44,573
Speaker 17: athletics now. I think kids like Sam Bruce and even

941
00:49:44,613 --> 00:49:47,933
Speaker 17: his sister who's up and coming. You know that that's

942
00:49:48,013 --> 00:49:50,253
Speaker 17: making it look cool, right, It's making it look like

943
00:49:50,253 --> 00:49:52,413
Speaker 17: a really cool I want to do that and look

944
00:49:52,413 --> 00:49:53,172
Speaker 17: at this kid, go.

945
00:49:53,453 --> 00:49:58,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, and what is your Yeah? Sorry you carry on pipes?

946
00:49:58,693 --> 00:49:59,413
Speaker 17: No carry on, you go.

947
00:49:59,573 --> 00:50:01,573
Speaker 2: I'm just going to say, what is your daughter competing?

948
00:50:04,013 --> 00:50:06,573
Speaker 17: I mean she kind of does a little bit of everything.

949
00:50:06,813 --> 00:50:09,533
Speaker 17: She's sort of going down a little bit of hurdles

950
00:50:09,773 --> 00:50:12,293
Speaker 17: and I think she really likes the middle distant running,

951
00:50:12,853 --> 00:50:18,172
Speaker 17: so she likes high jumps, So we're kind of going

952
00:50:18,173 --> 00:50:19,973
Speaker 17: down there a little bit too. So we'll see where

953
00:50:19,973 --> 00:50:22,373
Speaker 17: it goes. But she, you know, for here at the moment,

954
00:50:22,453 --> 00:50:25,172
Speaker 17: it's kind of an added bonus and it helps kits

955
00:50:25,253 --> 00:50:28,813
Speaker 17: with other sports and other areas of life. It's just

956
00:50:28,893 --> 00:50:32,172
Speaker 17: not it's just not doing one thing, it's multiple things.

957
00:50:32,213 --> 00:50:34,453
Speaker 17: It's and because it's such a team event. When you

958
00:50:34,493 --> 00:50:39,652
Speaker 17: go to these competitions and you know, school level, grassroots level,

959
00:50:39,813 --> 00:50:42,093
Speaker 17: you know there's a lot more than just kind of

960
00:50:42,093 --> 00:50:44,773
Speaker 17: sitting there waiting for your turn to show up at

961
00:50:44,773 --> 00:50:47,733
Speaker 17: the at the starting line, you know you have to

962
00:50:47,893 --> 00:50:50,493
Speaker 17: they have to check, you know, be on time. You

963
00:50:50,533 --> 00:50:53,533
Speaker 17: know there's there's a schedule, and it's knowing that schedule.

964
00:50:53,573 --> 00:50:56,973
Speaker 17: It's cooling down, it's warming up, it's refueling. All these

965
00:50:56,973 --> 00:51:00,133
Speaker 17: things that these kids learn about nutrition, and you know

966
00:51:00,253 --> 00:51:03,013
Speaker 17: it all filters in setting goals. It's a real goal

967
00:51:03,093 --> 00:51:05,293
Speaker 17: setting Hey what do you want to do next time?

968
00:51:05,533 --> 00:51:09,053
Speaker 17: And all of that is just incredib all for kids

969
00:51:09,333 --> 00:51:11,253
Speaker 17: get a young age getting organized.

970
00:51:11,413 --> 00:51:14,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a great education. Absolutely. So when it

971
00:51:14,573 --> 00:51:16,893
Speaker 2: comes to what Athletics New Zealand are calling for and

972
00:51:17,173 --> 00:51:21,053
Speaker 2: some investment into dedicated a dedicated stadium ahead of the

973
00:51:21,053 --> 00:51:23,652
Speaker 2: Commonwealth Games for you, would that be worth while?

974
00:51:24,813 --> 00:51:30,813
Speaker 17: Yes, hundred percent and yeah definitely. I'm unsurprised. I mean

975
00:51:30,853 --> 00:51:33,293
Speaker 17: I've spent a lot of time abroad. I'm surprised where

976
00:51:34,053 --> 00:51:37,853
Speaker 17: you know, we're that behind in the game. Really, we

977
00:51:37,893 --> 00:51:40,732
Speaker 17: should have an invest in it now and we should

978
00:51:40,773 --> 00:51:42,573
Speaker 17: have invested in it probably twenty years ago.

979
00:51:42,893 --> 00:51:45,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, Pip, thank you very much for giving me a call,

980
00:51:46,333 --> 00:51:48,973
Speaker 2: and go well to your fourteen year old daughter who

981
00:51:48,973 --> 00:51:51,893
Speaker 2: sounds like a phenomenal athletes already. What do you say, oh,

982
00:51:51,893 --> 00:51:53,813
Speaker 2: e one hundred and eighty ten eighty do you agree

983
00:51:53,813 --> 00:51:56,133
Speaker 2: with Pip and do you agree with Athletics New Zealand

984
00:51:56,133 --> 00:52:00,653
Speaker 2: that we need some investment at the grassroots athletic level

985
00:52:00,693 --> 00:52:04,133
Speaker 2: but also to have a stadium that we can have

986
00:52:04,653 --> 00:52:07,653
Speaker 2: spectators come in and support these wonderful athletes. It's no

987
00:52:07,653 --> 00:52:09,813
Speaker 2: doubt about it. We above our weight when it comes

988
00:52:09,853 --> 00:52:15,133
Speaker 2: to athletics. Hamish Kerr, Sam Ruth Zoey Hobbs, Dame Valerie.

989
00:52:15,413 --> 00:52:16,773
Speaker 2: I mean, the list goes on. You just got to

990
00:52:16,813 --> 00:52:19,213
Speaker 2: look back in history. We're being renowned for having some

991
00:52:19,253 --> 00:52:23,293
Speaker 2: incredible runners over the decades. And also on the question

992
00:52:23,333 --> 00:52:26,053
Speaker 2: about the Commonwealth Games, it keeps popping up. But twenty

993
00:52:26,253 --> 00:52:29,133
Speaker 2: thirty four, is that a worthwhile investment to make a

994
00:52:29,173 --> 00:52:32,212
Speaker 2: pitch for that Commonwealth Games? Is that still important? Does

995
00:52:32,253 --> 00:52:37,493
Speaker 2: that encourage those younger athletes to strive for the glittering

996
00:52:37,533 --> 00:52:39,813
Speaker 2: heights of something like the Commonwealth Games and then the

997
00:52:40,133 --> 00:52:41,973
Speaker 2: Olympic Games. Really keen to hear from you? I eight

998
00:52:42,093 --> 00:52:45,173
Speaker 2: hundred eighty ten eighty. This Texter comes from the opposite

999
00:52:45,173 --> 00:52:49,013
Speaker 2: side of the equation. Sorry, Tyler, but there's not the

1000
00:52:49,053 --> 00:52:51,893
Speaker 2: demand for athletics. Look at the stats for participation at

1001
00:52:51,973 --> 00:52:54,893
Speaker 2: high school level, athletics isn't even in the top five.

1002
00:52:55,013 --> 00:52:58,573
Speaker 2: That's from Craig Is Craig right. Is athletics dropped completely

1003
00:52:58,693 --> 00:53:00,973
Speaker 2: off and other sports of taking priority O W eight

1004
00:53:01,093 --> 00:53:03,933
Speaker 2: hundred eighty ten eighty. If you're involved, really keen to

1005
00:53:03,973 --> 00:53:07,573
Speaker 2: hear from you? It is twenty three past two.

1006
00:53:10,533 --> 00:53:14,212
Speaker 1: Matt Heathan Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

1007
00:53:14,293 --> 00:53:16,093
Speaker 1: ten eighty on News Talk ZB.

1008
00:53:16,533 --> 00:53:18,813
Speaker 2: Twenty six pars too, we're talking about athletics in New

1009
00:53:18,933 --> 00:53:21,933
Speaker 2: Zealand on the back of the leading organization in this

1010
00:53:21,973 --> 00:53:24,333
Speaker 2: country when it comes to athletics. They are calling on

1011
00:53:24,373 --> 00:53:28,853
Speaker 2: the government for dedicated investment into a proper athletics stadium

1012
00:53:28,893 --> 00:53:32,293
Speaker 2: ahead of our potential bid for the Commonwealth Games twenty

1013
00:53:32,773 --> 00:53:36,333
Speaker 2: thirty four. Cam Mitchell is his name, and he fears

1014
00:53:36,373 --> 00:53:38,973
Speaker 2: the lack of a suitable venue makes his sport in

1015
00:53:39,173 --> 00:53:42,853
Speaker 2: R Kelly's hell. As we prepare to make our case

1016
00:53:43,013 --> 00:53:46,733
Speaker 2: to the Commonwealth Games or Board to try and host

1017
00:53:46,733 --> 00:53:49,253
Speaker 2: in twenty thirty four. But what to focus in on

1018
00:53:49,293 --> 00:53:51,413
Speaker 2: the grassroots the high school level. Was it still a

1019
00:53:51,413 --> 00:53:54,732
Speaker 2: good option for kids to get into athletics or has

1020
00:53:54,813 --> 00:53:57,893
Speaker 2: there been a resurgent with the likes of Hamish Curse,

1021
00:53:58,013 --> 00:54:02,093
Speaker 2: Sam Ruth, Zoey Hobbs and others. If you're involved in athletics,

1022
00:54:02,093 --> 00:54:04,053
Speaker 2: share your view. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

1023
00:54:04,053 --> 00:54:05,133
Speaker 2: that number? Get a bruce?

1024
00:54:06,493 --> 00:54:07,613
Speaker 13: Okay, how are you tilt?

1025
00:54:07,773 --> 00:54:09,653
Speaker 2: I'm good mate, So you're involved.

1026
00:54:10,533 --> 00:54:13,613
Speaker 10: I'm involved across several aspects, so I'm on the way.

1027
00:54:13,693 --> 00:54:17,053
Speaker 10: Kabab Penny board for athletics. I'm also on a committee

1028
00:54:17,053 --> 00:54:21,973
Speaker 10: to shift our stadium from Karonger to They Park, sam

1029
00:54:22,053 --> 00:54:24,693
Speaker 10: Roots and our club along with other really good athletes.

1030
00:54:25,893 --> 00:54:28,413
Speaker 10: I'm still competing myself, so I can share with you

1031
00:54:28,493 --> 00:54:34,172
Speaker 10: quite a few different perspectives on it. Great Number one

1032
00:54:34,933 --> 00:54:38,772
Speaker 10: I suppose is that with school athletics, I can tell

1033
00:54:38,813 --> 00:54:44,693
Speaker 10: you it's very, very busy. I think the week before last,

1034
00:54:44,973 --> 00:54:48,853
Speaker 10: every single day our track at Karonger was fully booked

1035
00:54:49,173 --> 00:54:53,212
Speaker 10: with every different school holding their athletics days, and some

1036
00:54:53,253 --> 00:54:57,973
Speaker 10: of them had more than a thousand students or they're participating. Wow,

1037
00:54:59,413 --> 00:55:03,213
Speaker 10: and that is all put. We've got volunteers and we

1038
00:55:03,333 --> 00:55:04,933
Speaker 10: actually have to go and set up the track for

1039
00:55:04,973 --> 00:55:11,613
Speaker 10: the day so they are It is very, very busy

1040
00:55:11,853 --> 00:55:13,853
Speaker 10: for people to think that it's not at school level

1041
00:55:14,293 --> 00:55:17,573
Speaker 10: at this time of the year. We've probably got about

1042
00:55:17,613 --> 00:55:20,933
Speaker 10: eight or nine colleges in this region all having their

1043
00:55:20,973 --> 00:55:23,172
Speaker 10: athletics day on one day at that.

1044
00:55:23,253 --> 00:55:26,893
Speaker 2: Track, which is huge. I mean, that is great to hear,

1045
00:55:27,253 --> 00:55:29,933
Speaker 2: you know. As I mentioned before, Bruce, it was huge

1046
00:55:29,973 --> 00:55:32,693
Speaker 2: when I was at school. But you don't hear about

1047
00:55:32,733 --> 00:55:35,333
Speaker 2: it as much at that grassroots level unless you're in

1048
00:55:35,333 --> 00:55:37,973
Speaker 2: the community like you are but clearly there's still a

1049
00:55:38,133 --> 00:55:41,053
Speaker 2: massive participation at that level.

1050
00:55:42,373 --> 00:55:46,253
Speaker 10: Well there it's because athletics are split. The organizations are

1051
00:55:46,293 --> 00:55:48,373
Speaker 10: quite split. So you've got the New Zealand Secondary School's

1052
00:55:48,413 --> 00:55:54,093
Speaker 10: Athletics Association. After this week there is the Central there's

1053
00:55:54,133 --> 00:55:59,732
Speaker 10: the a Plenty Zone competition for secondary schools. Following that

1054
00:56:00,053 --> 00:56:04,893
Speaker 10: is a North Ireland Champs for secondary schools. Then you've

1055
00:56:04,933 --> 00:56:09,733
Speaker 10: got Athletics New Zealand. You've also got is Athletics New Zealand.

1056
00:56:10,213 --> 00:56:14,093
Speaker 10: So there's actually quite a few organizations where the age

1057
00:56:14,173 --> 00:56:18,333
Speaker 10: bands are all split. You've also got the smaller clubs

1058
00:56:18,413 --> 00:56:20,333
Speaker 10: up to the age of fourteen. Here we've got gret And,

1059
00:56:20,373 --> 00:56:23,172
Speaker 10: we've got Bellevue, We've got Papa May. Some of those

1060
00:56:23,213 --> 00:56:29,333
Speaker 10: clubs have three or four hundred young people participating and

1061
00:56:29,373 --> 00:56:32,172
Speaker 10: they have club nights at the track. One of the

1062
00:56:32,213 --> 00:56:36,333
Speaker 10: issues you've got, and I really endorse CAM for putting

1063
00:56:36,413 --> 00:56:40,413
Speaker 10: this through with from Athletics New Zealan. We've got really

1064
00:56:40,413 --> 00:56:43,933
Speaker 10: good long jumpers and pole volders. For example, they cannot

1065
00:56:44,053 --> 00:56:47,453
Speaker 10: use the track here at Trona between the months of

1066
00:56:48,373 --> 00:56:52,093
Speaker 10: July through to the start of this season on October

1067
00:56:52,133 --> 00:56:55,813
Speaker 10: because it they cannot access the long jump fitsil pop

1068
00:56:55,893 --> 00:56:59,413
Speaker 10: up pits because it's all marked off for NRL rugby

1069
00:56:59,493 --> 00:57:01,893
Speaker 10: and so forth, so they can't train.

1070
00:57:03,493 --> 00:57:06,613
Speaker 2: It's got to be frustrating, Bruce, that you get put

1071
00:57:06,653 --> 00:57:09,253
Speaker 2: to the side because these these other sport coming in

1072
00:57:09,253 --> 00:57:12,813
Speaker 2: who want to use those facilities, and what do you

1073
00:57:12,853 --> 00:57:14,613
Speaker 2: get told you go and find somewhere else.

1074
00:57:15,653 --> 00:57:18,693
Speaker 10: Well, we stay in touch with the council, but we

1075
00:57:18,733 --> 00:57:20,573
Speaker 10: do try to work in with rugby. But it's like,

1076
00:57:20,893 --> 00:57:22,893
Speaker 10: not only that this track here we've got to carry on.

1077
00:57:22,933 --> 00:57:26,613
Speaker 10: It's open to the public and so you've got to

1078
00:57:26,773 --> 00:57:29,093
Speaker 10: they've got the counselor do the booking, so they've got

1079
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Speaker 10: to work in with colleges who book it for athletics days,

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00:57:33,173 --> 00:57:40,493
Speaker 10: clubs right through the Bay region rugby football. Not only that,

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00:57:40,613 --> 00:57:43,613
Speaker 10: the track gets a real hammering because when rugby comes

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00:57:43,613 --> 00:57:45,533
Speaker 10: to see these young players walking across it with their

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00:57:45,533 --> 00:57:49,813
Speaker 10: boots and so forth, and then we're expected to hold

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00:57:50,613 --> 00:57:53,453
Speaker 10: like we had the Corgate Games here this year. That

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00:57:53,653 --> 00:57:55,653
Speaker 10: track had to have some money spent on it to

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00:57:55,733 --> 00:57:59,373
Speaker 10: actually be up to standard to hold the Corgate games.

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Speaker 10: So it's a real problem.

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Speaker 2: It is a real problem. So that the investment that

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00:58:04,573 --> 00:58:08,173
Speaker 2: Cam's talking about I mean, while you're talking here, I'm

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00:58:08,573 --> 00:58:11,693
Speaker 2: you know, thinking back to the construction of the Velodrome

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00:58:11,853 --> 00:58:15,093
Speaker 2: in Cambridge and I know that was a hard project

1092
00:58:15,093 --> 00:58:17,093
Speaker 2: to get off the ground, but clearly they made it

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00:58:17,133 --> 00:58:20,493
Speaker 2: happen because we had phenomenal cyclists competing on the world

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00:58:20,533 --> 00:58:22,933
Speaker 2: stage and they needed a facility here in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Is that the stage where athletics is at in New

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00:58:25,853 --> 00:58:26,653
Speaker 2: Zealand at the moment?

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Speaker 16: Oh?

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00:58:27,853 --> 00:58:32,813
Speaker 10: Absolutely. I think the thing is that, like I've competed

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Speaker 10: at most of myself, a lot of the stadiums we

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Speaker 10: have around the country. Christ Church absolutely is nothing like

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Speaker 10: it was. They've got problems with whin there. You've got

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00:58:41,533 --> 00:58:45,933
Speaker 10: Mount Smart Stadium, it's once again you've got the same problems.

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00:58:45,933 --> 00:58:49,413
Speaker 10: And that you've got this sport which is growing phenomenally.

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Speaker 10: And I think I like your comment we've got an

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Speaker 10: amazing amount of talent coming through now. And you know, yes,

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00:59:00,373 --> 00:59:03,013
Speaker 10: we've we've got focus on the Jarn Welkins and the

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00:59:03,133 --> 00:59:06,573
Speaker 10: Zoe Hobbs and Hamish Cures and the Sam Rouths, but

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Speaker 10: there's a lot of other promise thing, very promising up

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Speaker 10: and coming athletes in that fourteen to eighteen year old bracket.

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Speaker 10: We're just not seeing them out there yet. But give

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00:59:17,293 --> 00:59:19,133
Speaker 10: them another year or so we're going to see the

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Speaker 10: demand for a good facility even greater than what we're

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00:59:23,813 --> 00:59:28,933
Speaker 10: anticipating now. So it's very much needed because we can't

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Speaker 10: if you're going to hold an international event. We'd love

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Speaker 10: to hold a World's Athletics event here. Our stadiums are

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Speaker 10: not up to scratch. We wouldn't even pass International Athletics

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00:59:39,453 --> 00:59:41,653
Speaker 10: standards to hold it.

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Speaker 2: It's a massive juxtaposition, isn't it, Bruce. Where you know,

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Speaker 2: we talk about the resurgence and some of the phenomenal

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Speaker 2: athletes we're seen at the moment, but we do have

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Speaker 2: a rich history in athletics athletes throughout the decades, and

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Speaker 2: then for World Athletics to look at us and say

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Speaker 2: you're not up to it, there's no way you can

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Speaker 2: hold an event that hurts that hurts people you know

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Speaker 2: like you who are heavily.

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Speaker 10: Involved time, big time, and I think you know, yes,

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Speaker 10: you've seen some of the classics and we just had

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Speaker 10: the New Zealand Track and Field Championships that were held

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Speaker 10: on the weekend at Auckland, and I applaud Afid if

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Speaker 10: he's I mean, it wasn't perfect, but my gosh, that

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Speaker 10: was the first time in such a long time, and

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Speaker 10: even Sam Ruth came out and spoke and so to

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Speaker 10: Hamish how good it was. It felt like a European

1134
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Speaker 10: event because people came out and it was well supported.

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Speaker 10: You should have seen. It was electrifying that night. It

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Speaker 10: was really really good. And I think that is you know,

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Speaker 10: if we actually had the facility and could really run

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Speaker 10: it well, it would evolve quite quickly.

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Speaker 2: Bruce, thank you very much for giving me a call.

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Speaker 2: Great to get your insight, and I wish we had

1141
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Speaker 2: more time, but we've got the headlines hot on our tail.

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Speaker 2: Do you agree with Bruce? I mean, I think now

1143
01:00:57,253 --> 01:01:00,053
Speaker 2: is the time to capitalize on it. When you've got

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01:00:59,613 --> 01:01:03,333
Speaker 2: the hype around people like Hamish Kerr and Zoe Hobbs

1145
01:01:03,333 --> 01:01:05,813
Speaker 2: and Sam Ruth right now and we all love it.

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Speaker 2: We see what sam Ruth is doing, we see what

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Speaker 2: Hamish is, what Zoe's doing, and many others, and we

1148
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Speaker 2: get fizzed up about it as a nation, which is

1149
01:01:12,773 --> 01:01:15,613
Speaker 2: a wonderful thing. So now arguably is the time to

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01:01:15,653 --> 01:01:17,413
Speaker 2: capitalize on that. But what do you say, Oh, eight

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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 2: A nine two nine two is the text. Headlines with

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Speaker 2: Raylen coming up.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Raylian. So we're talking about athletics

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand. This is on the back of the

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Speaker 2: head of the organization, Cam Mitchell. He's imploring the government

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Speaker 2: to invest into a dedicated athletics stadium in the country

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Speaker 2: ahead of our bid for the twenty thirty four Commonwealth Games.

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Speaker 2: So our sports like athletics the future. We all know.

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Speaker 2: It's no secret rugby is struggling to get people into

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01:02:59,253 --> 01:03:02,693
Speaker 2: the stadiums. Super Rugby is on right now and they've

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01:03:02,773 --> 01:03:05,373
Speaker 2: long been trying to strategize on how to get people

1182
01:03:05,373 --> 01:03:07,773
Speaker 2: off the couch, out of their homes and back into

1183
01:03:08,413 --> 01:03:10,693
Speaker 2: the stadium. So it doesn't make more sense to pump

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01:03:10,733 --> 01:03:14,213
Speaker 2: money into something like a dedicated athletics stadium to host

1185
01:03:14,253 --> 01:03:16,853
Speaker 2: these big events. Would something like the World Champs if

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01:03:16,853 --> 01:03:19,333
Speaker 2: we were able to host it here in the country,

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01:03:19,333 --> 01:03:21,493
Speaker 2: would that get you off the couch and into the stadium?

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01:03:21,613 --> 01:03:23,933
Speaker 2: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number

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Speaker 2: to call? And if your children are getting into athletics

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Speaker 2: at the school arena. Really can you hear from you

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Speaker 2: as well? Get a rick? How are you this afternoon?

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Speaker 18: Thank Dirk. My boys are a bit younger than school age,

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Speaker 18: but I thought i'd just share my experience. We just

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01:03:42,093 --> 01:03:44,053
Speaker 18: recent while, about a year ago, moved out to a

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Speaker 18: place an often called Riverhead, and I'd have to give

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Speaker 18: a shout out to the Riverhead Athletics group there because

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Speaker 18: they're just phenomenal in terms of their set up and

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Speaker 18: community focus, and some of the older athletes come and

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Speaker 18: actually help out the little kids on the different stations.

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Speaker 18: So my boys are four and two, and the two

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01:04:04,613 --> 01:04:06,493
Speaker 18: year old was into it for a couple of sessions,

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Speaker 18: but now he just kind of watches as bigger brother. Yeah,

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01:04:10,333 --> 01:04:13,053
Speaker 18: but you know, every Monday we pick them up from kindy,

1204
01:04:13,493 --> 01:04:15,933
Speaker 18: they get excited about it, put their little uniforms on,

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01:04:15,973 --> 01:04:18,293
Speaker 18: and we go up to athletics and our four year

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01:04:18,293 --> 01:04:22,133
Speaker 18: old just absolutely loves it, can't wait for athletics. And

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Speaker 18: what's been really cool as well is some of the

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Speaker 18: our friend friends that were kind of met through doing

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Speaker 18: this and their kids who are a bit more reserved,

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Speaker 18: I suppose, and our son yesterday just kind of waved

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Speaker 18: out to their son, and then their son came over

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01:04:40,493 --> 01:04:43,053
Speaker 18: and they hugged and it was like this kind of

1213
01:04:43,333 --> 01:04:44,973
Speaker 18: gave him confidence to really get.

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Speaker 15: Involved in it as well.

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Speaker 18: So it's kind of I think from that perspective, the grassroots.

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Speaker 18: You know, it's setting these kind of well implementing life lessons,

1217
01:04:54,893 --> 01:04:57,933
Speaker 18: giving them some access to it, giving them an environment

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01:04:57,973 --> 01:04:59,733
Speaker 18: to have fun and create some friends.

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Speaker 15: It's been awesome.

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Speaker 2: So important at that age, isn't it rick to you know,

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Speaker 2: if there's a bit of passion or excitement showing by

1222
01:05:07,693 --> 01:05:10,573
Speaker 2: in this case you child who's four, to encourage that

1223
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Speaker 2: and to see the community come around them and to

1224
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Speaker 2: you know, to foster that. That encouragement massive, massive at

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01:05:16,893 --> 01:05:17,493
Speaker 2: that age.

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Speaker 16: Yeah.

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Speaker 18: And the other cool thing I think they early on

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Speaker 18: in the season they actually had to split out in

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Speaker 18: the group because there were too many tiny tops they

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Speaker 18: called them. So, you know, under under five, I suppose

1231
01:05:32,133 --> 01:05:34,253
Speaker 18: are such kind of at the top top end, But

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Speaker 18: so they split out, I guess the under fives and

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01:05:37,613 --> 01:05:41,013
Speaker 18: the over fives because they just had so much interest.

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Speaker 18: So I think that kind of speaks to some of

1235
01:05:42,733 --> 01:05:44,933
Speaker 18: the demands at this level.

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Speaker 15: And what what.

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Speaker 18: Cam's kind of talking about I suppose makes a lot

1238
01:05:48,973 --> 01:05:51,853
Speaker 18: of sense to think about a pathway for kids to

1239
01:05:52,813 --> 01:05:58,533
Speaker 18: follow sport that's outside of our traditional sport pathways. And

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Speaker 18: if you look at what Auckland Football Club have done

1241
01:06:01,973 --> 01:06:06,373
Speaker 18: in their community involvements and providing that pathway to pessionalism,

1242
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Speaker 18: I mean it only lead things.

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Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, and on my take on this rick

1244
01:06:12,173 --> 01:06:13,853
Speaker 2: and people will push back on it, but I think

1245
01:06:13,893 --> 01:06:16,893
Speaker 2: our investment into rugby, and I love rugby, but I

1246
01:06:16,933 --> 01:06:20,893
Speaker 2: think it's been prioritized above everything else to the detriment

1247
01:06:20,973 --> 01:06:24,013
Speaker 2: of things like athletics. And when you know, people talk,

1248
01:06:24,333 --> 01:06:27,053
Speaker 2: when you talk about another stadium dedicated to athletics, people

1249
01:06:27,093 --> 01:06:28,733
Speaker 2: are asking who's going to pay for that? Where's that

1250
01:06:28,773 --> 01:06:31,613
Speaker 2: money going to come from? But my thinking behind it

1251
01:06:31,693 --> 01:06:34,333
Speaker 2: is we want to encourage some of those other sports

1252
01:06:34,333 --> 01:06:37,213
Speaker 2: to come through and actually inject some hype and capital

1253
01:06:37,213 --> 01:06:40,133
Speaker 2: into it. Then these are sports that the kids are

1254
01:06:40,173 --> 01:06:42,133
Speaker 2: passionate about and wanting to get into, right, I mean

1255
01:06:42,173 --> 01:06:44,373
Speaker 2: the same could be said for basketball and some other things,

1256
01:06:44,413 --> 01:06:47,133
Speaker 2: but athletics. To me, when I brought this up, I

1257
01:06:47,173 --> 01:06:48,813
Speaker 2: was thinking, in the back of my head, I actually

1258
01:06:48,853 --> 01:06:51,413
Speaker 2: don't know what's happening on the grassroot level. I know

1259
01:06:51,493 --> 01:06:54,093
Speaker 2: what's happening in rugby, and I know that our stadium

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01:06:54,093 --> 01:06:56,373
Speaker 2: that we invest a lot of money into is mainly

1261
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Speaker 2: focused to rugby. But having a little bit more money

1262
01:06:59,453 --> 01:07:02,213
Speaker 2: going into something that we do very well on the

1263
01:07:02,213 --> 01:07:06,093
Speaker 2: world stage is not a silly ideatomy.

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Speaker 16: Yeah.

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01:07:07,333 --> 01:07:12,773
Speaker 18: Absolutely, I think maybe the private public partnership or you

1266
01:07:12,773 --> 01:07:16,173
Speaker 18: know owners. You look at what was done with growing

1267
01:07:16,453 --> 01:07:19,693
Speaker 18: as a development and what growing in New Zealand, what

1268
01:07:19,693 --> 01:07:20,813
Speaker 18: it means to New Zealand now.

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Speaker 15: So yeah, there's there's ways to raise.

1270
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Speaker 18: Capital for infrastructure, I think, but definitely providing pathways which

1271
01:07:28,133 --> 01:07:32,053
Speaker 18: lead to other things or other development of our young

1272
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Speaker 18: our young kids.

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01:07:34,253 --> 01:07:37,773
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, and just quickly, quickly back to your four

1274
01:07:37,813 --> 01:07:39,893
Speaker 2: year old. Is he's trying to bit of everything at

1275
01:07:39,933 --> 01:07:41,733
Speaker 2: the moment? Is he focusing in on one thing?

1276
01:07:43,333 --> 01:07:43,573
Speaker 19: Yeah?

1277
01:07:43,573 --> 01:07:47,373
Speaker 18: He doesn't quite have the attention stand for the discus

1278
01:07:47,413 --> 01:07:50,653
Speaker 18: and sports like that, but he's very into his running,

1279
01:07:50,693 --> 01:07:53,093
Speaker 18: so I'd say he'll be more of the short track

1280
01:07:53,093 --> 01:07:54,413
Speaker 18: sprinter love.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, good really yeah, Rick, thank you very much

1282
01:07:58,133 --> 01:08:00,493
Speaker 2: for giving me a call. That was fantastic. Oh one

1283
01:08:00,533 --> 01:08:03,773
Speaker 2: hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call? So

1284
01:08:03,813 --> 01:08:05,453
Speaker 2: what do you say? Do you back up Cam Mitchell

1285
01:08:05,493 --> 01:08:08,333
Speaker 2: from Athletics New Zealand do we need some government investments

1286
01:08:08,773 --> 01:08:12,933
Speaker 2: into dedicated athletic facilities? His argument is for the Commonwealth

1287
01:08:13,133 --> 01:08:15,853
Speaker 2: Games bid in twenty thirty four. But I want to

1288
01:08:15,893 --> 01:08:18,572
Speaker 2: take it a bit wider that we have significant we

1289
01:08:18,653 --> 01:08:22,772
Speaker 2: have had significant investment in rugby and it's no secret

1290
01:08:22,893 --> 01:08:25,732
Speaker 2: that it is becoming harder and harder to get people

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Speaker 2: to go to the stadium to watch the likes of

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Speaker 2: the Super Rugby season. So is this perhaps where more

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01:08:32,053 --> 01:08:34,932
Speaker 2: money government money is needed? Oh, eight hundred eighty ten

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01:08:35,013 --> 01:08:36,852
Speaker 2: eighty is that number to call nineteen ninet two. If

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01:08:36,893 --> 01:08:38,932
Speaker 2: you want to send a text, it's seventeen to three.

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Speaker 1: The Fresh take on took back Matt Heath and Tyler

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Speaker 1: Adams afternoons with Skoda. Please sco to codes every day

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Speaker 1: at scoter dot co dot nz. Head have your say

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Speaker 1: on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty news talks.

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Speaker 2: There'd be fourteen to three. Get a Morris a mate.

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Speaker 20: Well, I disagree with your last two callers, and I

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Speaker 20: went for the Athletics on Saturday. Wonderful atmosphere that stadium

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01:09:04,772 --> 01:09:09,173
Speaker 20: there at what Tacker would hold round about thousand people

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01:09:09,293 --> 01:09:12,412
Speaker 20: tops and yet I got a park a piece of cake.

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01:09:12,452 --> 01:09:14,333
Speaker 20: You would have been four and a half thousand people,

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01:09:15,053 --> 01:09:17,372
Speaker 20: and they reckon it was a wonderful atmosphere for athletics.

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01:09:17,812 --> 01:09:20,253
Speaker 20: So you've got to put everything in perspective. And then

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01:09:20,293 --> 01:09:23,532
Speaker 20: you look at that previous quarner who was talking about Riverhead.

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01:09:24,093 --> 01:09:26,453
Speaker 20: But at the same time, if you look at that community,

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01:09:26,652 --> 01:09:29,293
Speaker 20: the Qibi Rugby Club, they do have six hundred and

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01:09:29,333 --> 01:09:32,213
Speaker 20: fifty juniors playing forty every Saturday on the same field.

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01:09:32,213 --> 01:09:34,333
Speaker 20: Those same kids go and play rugby there and the

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01:09:34,412 --> 01:09:37,253
Speaker 20: parents are very proactive in that community sort of sports.

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Speaker 20: They're one of the biggest junior clubs in the Harbor region.

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Speaker 20: And then you say we need a purpose built facility. Well,

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01:09:43,973 --> 01:09:47,093
Speaker 20: they've got the Millennium Stadium which is athletics and all that.

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01:09:47,173 --> 01:09:49,452
Speaker 20: They've got indoor facilities, got the swimming all out there

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Speaker 20: in North Harbor. That's so there's a lot of money invested.

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01:09:53,853 --> 01:09:56,092
Speaker 20: Then your previous corner down on tarings is a rugby

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01:09:56,133 --> 01:09:57,412
Speaker 20: years at all. The rest of it, well, that's an

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01:09:57,412 --> 01:10:00,053
Speaker 20: issue with council and they walk over the ground. Will

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01:10:00,133 --> 01:10:03,293
Speaker 20: council me to start giving directives around that, you know,

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01:10:03,532 --> 01:10:06,093
Speaker 20: and need to start dealing with council because a lot

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01:10:06,093 --> 01:10:08,852
Speaker 20: of that stuff, you know, for those provincial things, that's

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01:10:08,893 --> 01:10:11,573
Speaker 20: all to do with counsel. That's not building a national stadium.

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01:10:11,933 --> 01:10:14,132
Speaker 20: And then you put the third thing in the sky's

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01:10:14,213 --> 01:10:18,372
Speaker 20: creating hype about the Commonwealth Games. Well you couldn't give

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01:10:18,412 --> 01:10:21,093
Speaker 20: the Commonwealth Games away last year that had the big

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01:10:21,133 --> 01:10:22,772
Speaker 20: Scotland to take it. So I don't think that's going

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01:10:22,812 --> 01:10:24,612
Speaker 20: to be an issue. And once again, if you look

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Speaker 20: at the cost performance, they can put a running track,

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01:10:28,973 --> 01:10:32,372
Speaker 20: they can relay a running track in Mount Smart. They've

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01:10:32,372 --> 01:10:34,093
Speaker 20: got the warm up Bazilly just over, which is what

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Speaker 20: they'll do if they get it. And you've got all

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01:10:35,973 --> 01:10:38,813
Speaker 20: the hotels and accommodations with an auckland to cover everything.

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01:10:40,452 --> 01:10:44,493
Speaker 20: And so New Zealand's not a country full of natural resources.

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01:10:44,532 --> 01:10:46,612
Speaker 20: We don't have oil, we don't have a lot of things,

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01:10:46,612 --> 01:10:48,933
Speaker 20: we don't have a lot of money. And so do

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01:10:48,933 --> 01:10:51,053
Speaker 20: you think spending one hundred and fifty million dollars for

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01:10:51,093 --> 01:10:54,452
Speaker 20: a purpose ful facility that might get used once? You know,

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01:10:54,452 --> 01:10:57,013
Speaker 20: and all r honesty is really really good. And you look

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01:10:57,013 --> 01:10:59,932
Speaker 20: at all those kids coming through and it's no different

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01:11:00,333 --> 01:11:02,932
Speaker 20: when you're a kid when I was a kid, school

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01:11:02,973 --> 01:11:04,732
Speaker 20: athletics we all went in that because it was a

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01:11:04,812 --> 01:11:09,293
Speaker 20: day off school. We did athletics the summer because that

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01:11:09,372 --> 01:11:12,333
Speaker 20: field and that I think Tuesday night was Martin went

1347
01:11:12,572 --> 01:11:14,093
Speaker 20: but we played rugby in the winter. And then your

1348
01:11:14,093 --> 01:11:17,213
Speaker 20: field out sports. As you leave school, you work out

1349
01:11:17,253 --> 01:11:20,452
Speaker 20: to what you want to do, and so kids have

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01:11:20,492 --> 01:11:22,492
Speaker 20: done that for a long long time and you don't

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01:11:22,532 --> 01:11:26,652
Speaker 20: have you have grass tracks and all the rest of it,

1352
01:11:25,893 --> 01:11:28,732
Speaker 20: and they probably not cater to the best of the community,

1353
01:11:28,772 --> 01:11:30,412
Speaker 20: and it could be a bit more going towards it,

1354
01:11:30,412 --> 01:11:34,372
Speaker 20: but overall, the facilities must be reasonal around the country

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01:11:34,412 --> 01:11:35,852
Speaker 20: because we're producing great athletes.

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01:11:36,372 --> 01:11:38,412
Speaker 2: Well yeah, but you can make that same argument with

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01:11:38,492 --> 01:11:42,253
Speaker 2: the investment we've put into stadium primarily for rugby, couldn't

1358
01:11:42,253 --> 01:11:45,492
Speaker 2: you Morris that what's happening at the super rugby level

1359
01:11:45,492 --> 01:11:47,973
Speaker 2: and trying to encourage people to go back to the

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01:11:48,013 --> 01:11:50,213
Speaker 2: stadium that is hard yaker at the moment. People just

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01:11:50,213 --> 01:11:52,293
Speaker 2: don't want to do it for various reasons. And the

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01:11:52,572 --> 01:11:55,173
Speaker 2: hundreds of millions that have been pumped into that, I

1363
01:11:55,213 --> 01:11:58,053
Speaker 2: mean christ Stadium to Kaha, that's going to be a

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01:11:58,093 --> 01:12:00,412
Speaker 2: concert venue as well, and it's got a roof fantastic

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01:12:00,412 --> 01:12:03,133
Speaker 2: people are very excited about that, but that is primarily

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01:12:03,173 --> 01:12:06,013
Speaker 2: dedicated to to field sports. And then when you look

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01:12:06,053 --> 01:12:08,772
Speaker 2: at athletics and how we compete on the world stage

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01:12:08,772 --> 01:12:10,812
Speaker 2: and not the Commonwealth Games, I agree with you of that,

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01:12:10,973 --> 01:12:14,412
Speaker 2: I think financially that's going to be a boondog or

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01:12:14,452 --> 01:12:16,612
Speaker 2: if we do get it, it's not going to work out.

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01:12:17,053 --> 01:12:19,333
Speaker 2: But things like the World Champs, you know, that is

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01:12:19,372 --> 01:12:22,012
Speaker 2: an economic boost for people that can host the World Champs.

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01:12:22,013 --> 01:12:24,293
Speaker 2: To get that many people coming in here in athletes,

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01:12:24,532 --> 01:12:27,852
Speaker 2: that is a massive economic boom. And my point was

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01:12:27,973 --> 01:12:31,053
Speaker 2: to invest some of the capital and money that we

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01:12:31,093 --> 01:12:33,492
Speaker 2: as taxpayers put into some of these other things, well

1377
01:12:33,532 --> 01:12:37,372
Speaker 2: primarily rugby, to divert some of that into something like athletics,

1378
01:12:37,572 --> 01:12:40,012
Speaker 2: to me is not a silly idea. There's some real

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01:12:40,093 --> 01:12:43,133
Speaker 2: benefit there across the board and over the generations if

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01:12:43,173 --> 01:12:43,532
Speaker 2: we do that.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, I think if you do an analysis like I

1382
01:12:47,293 --> 01:12:49,732
Speaker 20: was there on Saturday, there would have been four thousand

1383
01:12:49,732 --> 01:12:52,253
Speaker 20: people and that was a massive event. To get those

1384
01:12:52,253 --> 01:12:55,452
Speaker 20: World Champs, you need to build a forty thousand people stadium,

1385
01:12:55,933 --> 01:12:58,253
Speaker 20: and because active numbers you get in Europe, we just

1386
01:12:58,412 --> 01:13:00,692
Speaker 20: don't have people. We don't go to rugby unless it's

1387
01:13:00,692 --> 01:13:02,932
Speaker 20: a Test match now or a final or a semi final,

1388
01:13:03,293 --> 01:13:04,732
Speaker 20: you know, and I think, what are they averaging at

1389
01:13:04,732 --> 01:13:06,972
Speaker 20: all to the overage sixteen thousand people in a fifty

1390
01:13:07,013 --> 01:13:12,692
Speaker 20: thousand people stadium, which is very disappointing in that but

1391
01:13:12,812 --> 01:13:16,213
Speaker 20: even Auckland Rugby, we're sitting there as an MPC. Or

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01:13:16,452 --> 01:13:19,452
Speaker 20: do we move to a smaller stadium, you know, because

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01:13:19,492 --> 01:13:22,293
Speaker 20: it's more cost effective because starting our opening up Eden

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01:13:22,333 --> 01:13:25,572
Speaker 20: Park and obviously eating parts now looking for alternative ways

1395
01:13:25,572 --> 01:13:28,333
Speaker 20: of making revenue because they don't get it from rugby crowds.

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01:13:28,412 --> 01:13:31,173
Speaker 20: Everyone knows that. But the question is we have the

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01:13:31,173 --> 01:13:34,412
Speaker 20: Millennium Stadium in north Shore, which is where the high

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01:13:34,452 --> 01:13:38,012
Speaker 20: performance people go. You've got cycling and down in Cambridge

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01:13:38,013 --> 01:13:40,933
Speaker 20: you've got the rolling down there, You've got stuff around there,

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01:13:40,492 --> 01:13:42,692
Speaker 20: and if we're going to build anything, it should be

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01:13:42,772 --> 01:13:45,532
Speaker 20: high performance facilities for the best, so that actually have

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01:13:45,572 --> 01:13:48,932
Speaker 20: all the facilities that we want and we've already got

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01:13:48,973 --> 01:13:52,532
Speaker 20: sort of those part and parcel. But you know, to

1404
01:13:52,532 --> 01:13:56,972
Speaker 20: build a thirty thousand people purpose built stadium somewhere it'll

1405
01:13:57,053 --> 01:13:59,053
Speaker 20: be wonderful, But when are you ever going to follow

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01:13:59,053 --> 01:13:59,333
Speaker 20: it up.

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01:13:59,812 --> 01:14:04,052
Speaker 2: Yep, Morris, thank you very much. You're making some interesting points.

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01:14:04,053 --> 01:14:06,852
Speaker 2: So Morris is not a fan of spending that sort

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01:14:06,853 --> 01:14:09,612
Speaker 2: of money on a dedicated athlete stadium. What do you say, Oh,

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01:14:09,612 --> 01:14:12,213
Speaker 2: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

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01:14:12,452 --> 01:14:15,412
Speaker 2: It is eight minutes to three, the.

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01:14:15,412 --> 01:14:17,972
Speaker 1: Issues that affect you and a bit of fun along

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01:14:18,013 --> 01:14:22,813
Speaker 1: the way, Mad Heathen Tyler Adams Afternoons NEWSTALKSB.

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Speaker 2: News Talks B Kim. You're involved with athletics at the

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01:14:27,173 --> 01:14:27,972
Speaker 2: club level.

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01:14:29,612 --> 01:14:31,892
Speaker 14: That might have been involved at the secondary school level too,

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01:14:32,412 --> 01:14:35,412
Speaker 14: So I firs there it's about you. On of grassroots.

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01:14:36,492 --> 01:14:40,892
Speaker 14: The big problem of grassroots I find is counsels. We

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01:14:41,053 --> 01:14:44,412
Speaker 14: I'm in the provincial New Zealand. I've noticed how local

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01:14:44,452 --> 01:14:47,053
Speaker 14: grass track the council aays is getting more rubbishy and

1421
01:14:47,053 --> 01:14:50,213
Speaker 14: more rubbishy as year goes on. They don't give us

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01:14:50,532 --> 01:14:54,053
Speaker 14: that much of a long jump. Throwing circles need a

1423
01:14:54,053 --> 01:14:56,493
Speaker 14: lot of work and a lot of councils are neglecting

1424
01:14:56,532 --> 01:14:59,372
Speaker 14: that sort of stuff and that's where we need a

1425
01:14:59,372 --> 01:15:04,572
Speaker 14: lot of input. And just our little club got eighteen

1426
01:15:04,652 --> 01:15:08,133
Speaker 14: medals at the nationals over the weekend, brilliant and most

1427
01:15:08,133 --> 01:15:12,532
Speaker 14: of the kids training in substandard conditions is and so

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01:15:12,612 --> 01:15:16,013
Speaker 14: what I heard a guy before say councils need to

1429
01:15:16,013 --> 01:15:18,213
Speaker 14: front up, and that's exactly what happens. The other stuff

1430
01:15:18,333 --> 01:15:22,973
Speaker 14: is all addressing we need. I mean, I've coached an

1431
01:15:23,013 --> 01:15:26,653
Speaker 14: isolation for years using whatever I could. I use do tracks,

1432
01:15:27,652 --> 01:15:30,133
Speaker 14: roads in the forest, that sort of stuff. But we

1433
01:15:30,173 --> 01:15:32,852
Speaker 14: need the councils to really step up and make and

1434
01:15:33,692 --> 01:15:36,412
Speaker 14: you know they charge the bomb for the charges for

1435
01:15:36,452 --> 01:15:38,732
Speaker 14: the use of the track, but don't give us what

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01:15:38,772 --> 01:15:39,293
Speaker 14: we paid for.

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01:15:39,452 --> 01:15:41,572
Speaker 2: Why don't they step up? Kim? What what? What is

1438
01:15:41,572 --> 01:15:44,173
Speaker 2: the rationale? So what they're allocating money to other things?

1439
01:15:45,093 --> 01:15:48,972
Speaker 14: They think touch is more important, and I think touch

1440
01:15:49,053 --> 01:15:51,812
Speaker 14: is a marvelous sport. But they will go out of

1441
01:15:51,853 --> 01:15:55,013
Speaker 14: their way to do more for touch and some of

1442
01:15:55,053 --> 01:15:58,733
Speaker 14: the other over ball sports. When they get into the summertime,

1443
01:15:59,053 --> 01:16:00,932
Speaker 14: they tend to look after them a bit more rather

1444
01:16:00,973 --> 01:16:03,093
Speaker 14: than look after what is the real summer sport. The

1445
01:16:03,253 --> 01:16:05,972
Speaker 14: cricket stuff is not too bad, but you know you've

1446
01:16:06,013 --> 01:16:08,772
Speaker 14: got a facility there and then the club pays a

1447
01:16:08,772 --> 01:16:11,412
Speaker 14: lot of money for it. You expect the council and

1448
01:16:11,452 --> 01:16:13,333
Speaker 14: I'll think a lot of other councils the same they're

1449
01:16:13,372 --> 01:16:16,892
Speaker 14: not fronting grass tracks, we can be the flomal grass

1450
01:16:16,933 --> 01:16:17,852
Speaker 14: tracks founder this country.

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01:16:18,093 --> 01:16:21,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cam, thank you very much. Great to hear from you.

1452
01:16:21,853 --> 01:16:23,253
Speaker 2: We're going to carry this on for a little bit

1453
01:16:23,293 --> 01:16:25,892
Speaker 2: after three o'clock. So what do you say about investment

1454
01:16:25,893 --> 01:16:29,492
Speaker 2: when it comes to grassroots athletics. There's no more need

1455
01:16:29,572 --> 01:16:31,892
Speaker 2: to happen at the council and the government level. Oh,

1456
01:16:31,893 --> 01:16:33,772
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1457
01:16:33,853 --> 01:16:36,093
Speaker 2: Nine two ninety two is the text. News coming up.

1458
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Speaker 16: A lot of.

1459
01:16:36,893 --> 01:16:41,572
Speaker 1: Big stories, the leak issues, the big trends and everything

1460
01:16:41,572 --> 01:16:45,293
Speaker 1: in between. It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoon SQUI

1461
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Speaker 1: Scodder News.

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Speaker 2: Talk said, be very good afternoon to you. Welcome back

1463
01:16:50,772 --> 01:16:54,412
Speaker 2: into the program. And if you're standing by for that

1464
01:16:54,492 --> 01:16:57,412
Speaker 2: hint for the scoder codes, rest assured. We haven't forgotten

1465
01:16:57,572 --> 01:17:00,372
Speaker 2: that will be coming up very soon. So a reminder

1466
01:17:00,412 --> 01:17:02,812
Speaker 2: our mates at Scotera could be sending you and a

1467
01:17:02,812 --> 01:17:05,492
Speaker 2: friend to the tour to fronts when you play scoter codes.

1468
01:17:05,532 --> 01:17:08,053
Speaker 2: If you do need help with today's clue, just keep

1469
01:17:08,093 --> 01:17:11,333
Speaker 2: let us. We will have that clue for you very

1470
01:17:11,652 --> 01:17:14,492
Speaker 2: very soon, so stand by for that. But in the meantime,

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Speaker 2: back to our discussion about athletics in New Zealand and

1472
01:17:17,612 --> 01:17:20,492
Speaker 2: the investment that our government should or should not put

1473
01:17:20,532 --> 01:17:23,093
Speaker 2: into it. This has been raised by the CEO of

1474
01:17:23,133 --> 01:17:26,052
Speaker 2: Athletics New Zealand, Cam Mitchell. He is imploring the government

1475
01:17:26,372 --> 01:17:29,213
Speaker 2: to do more to pump our money into a dedicated

1476
01:17:29,253 --> 01:17:32,572
Speaker 2: stadium for athletics ahead of our potential bid for the

1477
01:17:32,612 --> 01:17:36,293
Speaker 2: twenty thirty four Commonwealth Games. So we have been talking

1478
01:17:36,293 --> 01:17:38,812
Speaker 2: about athletics at the grass roots and king to hear

1479
01:17:38,853 --> 01:17:41,932
Speaker 2: your story is on eight hundred eighty ten eighty. What

1480
01:17:42,093 --> 01:17:44,372
Speaker 2: is it like at that high school level and at

1481
01:17:44,372 --> 01:17:47,173
Speaker 2: that community level. Is there's still investment that has been

1482
01:17:47,213 --> 01:17:50,533
Speaker 2: pumped into it, what is the passion like of the community,

1483
01:17:50,933 --> 01:17:53,932
Speaker 2: and is that a sport of the future. We do

1484
01:17:53,973 --> 01:17:56,652
Speaker 2: put a lot of investment into rugby and New Zealand

1485
01:17:56,652 --> 01:17:59,492
Speaker 2: and we love it and so that is quite right,

1486
01:17:59,612 --> 01:18:01,812
Speaker 2: but when it comes to other sports, they seem to

1487
01:18:01,853 --> 01:18:05,013
Speaker 2: lag behind when it comes to the hype and investment

1488
01:18:05,053 --> 01:18:07,372
Speaker 2: that we see at the upper level. So eight hundred

1489
01:18:07,452 --> 01:18:10,253
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty is that number to call, Hannah? How

1490
01:18:10,253 --> 01:18:11,132
Speaker 2: are you this afternoon?

1491
01:18:11,692 --> 01:18:12,053
Speaker 21: I'm good?

1492
01:18:12,093 --> 01:18:12,333
Speaker 4: Thanks?

1493
01:18:12,333 --> 01:18:13,093
Speaker 10: How are you good?

1494
01:18:13,173 --> 01:18:16,612
Speaker 2: Really nice to chat with you. So your son was

1495
01:18:16,652 --> 01:18:18,852
Speaker 2: pretty heavily involved in athletics at primary school.

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01:18:19,612 --> 01:18:22,612
Speaker 21: Yeah, so he did athletices and primary school loved it.

1497
01:18:23,013 --> 01:18:26,053
Speaker 21: He went to Zone. He meets Canterburys for three years

1498
01:18:26,053 --> 01:18:29,932
Speaker 21: in a row. Naturally sort of was excelled at it.

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Speaker 21: We never did athletics, we couldn't fit it in the

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01:18:33,492 --> 01:18:37,412
Speaker 21: family schedule, but he loved doing it at school. This

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01:18:37,492 --> 01:18:39,852
Speaker 21: is his first year at high school and his high

1502
01:18:39,893 --> 01:18:43,372
Speaker 21: school does not have an athletics day at all.

1503
01:18:43,572 --> 01:18:46,052
Speaker 2: So nope, how crazy.

1504
01:18:47,173 --> 01:18:51,412
Speaker 21: One of the biggest Christ christ Us high schools.

1505
01:18:51,452 --> 01:18:53,772
Speaker 2: From what I know, that is unreal.

1506
01:18:54,612 --> 01:18:54,852
Speaker 20: Yeah.

1507
01:18:54,973 --> 01:18:57,092
Speaker 21: So if there's no emphasis on it in a school

1508
01:18:57,213 --> 01:19:00,572
Speaker 21: high school level, you know, is it going to flow

1509
01:19:00,652 --> 01:19:04,772
Speaker 21: through to you know, building a big stadium, And yeah,

1510
01:19:04,812 --> 01:19:07,732
Speaker 21: it just doesn't. I mean, I'm disappointed that they don't

1511
01:19:07,853 --> 01:19:11,372
Speaker 21: have in athletics day. You still have a pathway to

1512
01:19:11,452 --> 01:19:15,772
Speaker 21: go to like Canterburys, but you literally just put your

1513
01:19:15,812 --> 01:19:18,892
Speaker 21: name down and you can go. There's no like pre

1514
01:19:19,692 --> 01:19:21,372
Speaker 21: qualification or anything like that.

1515
01:19:21,933 --> 01:19:23,973
Speaker 2: It was such and I hope it still happens in

1516
01:19:23,973 --> 01:19:26,293
Speaker 2: other schools, Hannah, but it is. You know, that was

1517
01:19:26,333 --> 01:19:29,213
Speaker 2: a big part of my high school. You had athletics

1518
01:19:29,293 --> 01:19:33,093
Speaker 2: day and most kids, you know, participated, whether you're a

1519
01:19:33,093 --> 01:19:35,692
Speaker 2: good athletics or not. But bit a big part about

1520
01:19:35,692 --> 01:19:38,453
Speaker 2: that is that you did actually have people from Athletics

1521
01:19:38,452 --> 01:19:41,013
Speaker 2: New Zealand in the crowd, the talent scouts. They were

1522
01:19:41,053 --> 01:19:44,253
Speaker 2: watching for the high achievers to hopefully, you know, if

1523
01:19:44,253 --> 01:19:46,133
Speaker 2: they like what they see, pull them inside and say

1524
01:19:46,333 --> 01:19:48,812
Speaker 2: we think you've got potential. You know, this is a

1525
01:19:48,853 --> 01:19:52,492
Speaker 2: potential pathway for you to take it to dizzy in heights.

1526
01:19:52,492 --> 01:19:54,213
Speaker 2: So that, I mean, that is disappointing.

1527
01:19:54,973 --> 01:19:59,933
Speaker 21: Yeah, they also don't have a swimming sport, same situation.

1528
01:20:01,093 --> 01:20:05,452
Speaker 21: I mean, I feel like in primary schools now Live,

1529
01:20:05,572 --> 01:20:10,853
Speaker 21: it's split hourses. You have a a competitive it's called competitive,

1530
01:20:11,013 --> 01:20:15,692
Speaker 21: and then a participation fun and some you know, and

1531
01:20:15,732 --> 01:20:19,173
Speaker 21: it's good to have them all involved. But I think

1532
01:20:19,253 --> 01:20:22,533
Speaker 21: from having these kids where you know there's the options

1533
01:20:22,532 --> 01:20:27,013
Speaker 21: to you know, not do it, then when they get

1534
01:20:27,013 --> 01:20:30,052
Speaker 21: to high school they just take that option where it's

1535
01:20:30,093 --> 01:20:31,772
Speaker 21: just getting involved in enjoying it.

1536
01:20:31,933 --> 01:20:34,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's about that encouragement, right, and that's that's a

1537
01:20:34,412 --> 01:20:37,253
Speaker 2: big part of the role the school plays is to

1538
01:20:37,412 --> 01:20:39,892
Speaker 2: keep that passion and encouragement alive and give the options

1539
01:20:39,933 --> 01:20:42,492
Speaker 2: there So where is your son at the moment. Does

1540
01:20:42,492 --> 01:20:44,213
Speaker 2: he want to try and carry it on or is

1541
01:20:44,253 --> 01:20:47,293
Speaker 2: he is thinking it's too hard to try and find

1542
01:20:47,293 --> 01:20:49,333
Speaker 2: a club outside the school and keep going.

1543
01:20:50,612 --> 01:20:53,532
Speaker 21: We have signed them up to go to Canterburys and

1544
01:20:53,572 --> 01:20:55,692
Speaker 21: that is the planet. I think it's in two weeks time,

1545
01:20:55,812 --> 01:20:58,213
Speaker 21: so he'll go and do that. I mean the other

1546
01:20:58,652 --> 01:21:02,333
Speaker 21: the hard thing is though, I feel like sports want

1547
01:21:02,492 --> 01:21:08,173
Speaker 21: kids to specialize too early, and he plays rugby, water

1548
01:21:09,133 --> 01:21:11,772
Speaker 21: touch and he loves being involved in all of him

1549
01:21:12,013 --> 01:21:14,532
Speaker 21: so he doesn't want to have to drop one to

1550
01:21:14,612 --> 01:21:17,932
Speaker 21: be able to do the other. Yeah, and I think

1551
01:21:17,973 --> 01:21:20,213
Speaker 21: that's where you know, like football now goes all year

1552
01:21:20,253 --> 01:21:23,333
Speaker 21: round opposed to just having like a season, and so

1553
01:21:23,812 --> 01:21:26,013
Speaker 21: it means you can do a summer sport and a

1554
01:21:26,093 --> 01:21:29,572
Speaker 21: winter sport. But like we're already into rugby trials now,

1555
01:21:30,053 --> 01:21:32,692
Speaker 21: and so it's like he can't go to a water

1556
01:21:32,732 --> 01:21:35,852
Speaker 21: polo game on Tuesday because it's conflicting with rugby trial.

1557
01:21:36,053 --> 01:21:36,293
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1558
01:21:36,372 --> 01:21:39,973
Speaker 21: Yeah, it's a logistical nightmare.

1559
01:21:40,133 --> 01:21:42,333
Speaker 2: Hard for you. And it sounds like he's a very

1560
01:21:42,372 --> 01:21:44,013
Speaker 2: busy kid but got on and for wanting to do

1561
01:21:44,053 --> 01:21:47,333
Speaker 2: a bit of everything. So I mean, the facilities down

1562
01:21:47,372 --> 01:21:49,652
Speaker 2: in christ Church and obviously I lived down there for

1563
01:21:49,692 --> 01:21:52,572
Speaker 2: a long time and I know after the earthquakes there

1564
01:21:52,652 --> 01:21:55,372
Speaker 2: was a massive fight from various different sporting groups to

1565
01:21:55,372 --> 01:21:58,572
Speaker 2: try and get that council investment and athletics I know

1566
01:21:58,812 --> 01:22:01,612
Speaker 2: really tried to push to get some more grounds and

1567
01:22:01,652 --> 01:22:05,092
Speaker 2: some more facilities. What was the final outcome? Are there

1568
01:22:05,133 --> 01:22:08,253
Speaker 2: there are wider facilities in christ Church to cater for

1569
01:22:08,452 --> 01:22:10,773
Speaker 2: or people who are interested in athletics.

1570
01:22:11,412 --> 01:22:14,813
Speaker 21: Now we've got no Purnai, which is an incredible facility,

1571
01:22:15,253 --> 01:22:17,293
Speaker 21: and I think it's great. Like going back to the

1572
01:22:17,372 --> 01:22:20,132
Speaker 21: man what the man said previously about investing in grass

1573
01:22:20,173 --> 01:22:21,333
Speaker 21: roots and making.

1574
01:22:21,093 --> 01:22:23,052
Speaker 4: Sure that these club fields are.

1575
01:22:23,013 --> 01:22:25,293
Speaker 21: Up to standard. For that I think is a far

1576
01:22:25,372 --> 01:22:27,852
Speaker 21: better investment than a big stadium that's going to be

1577
01:22:27,853 --> 01:22:30,692
Speaker 21: filled up once a year or not even that, and

1578
01:22:30,772 --> 01:22:33,732
Speaker 21: just utilizing the stadiums that we currently have and making

1579
01:22:33,732 --> 01:22:37,173
Speaker 21: them multi multi purpose because you're no perna I and

1580
01:22:37,253 --> 01:22:42,293
Speaker 21: christ there's an amazing facility for athletics and it's you know,

1581
01:22:42,452 --> 01:22:48,973
Speaker 21: it's suited our community well from what I've been involved in. Yeah,

1582
01:22:49,013 --> 01:22:51,013
Speaker 21: but they also need to make sure that, you know,

1583
01:22:51,692 --> 01:22:55,692
Speaker 21: high schools are still involved in these sports before they

1584
01:22:55,772 --> 01:22:56,932
Speaker 21: go and invest in them.

1585
01:22:57,213 --> 01:22:59,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean if it's not there at

1586
01:22:59,853 --> 01:23:02,452
Speaker 2: the high school level and then asking the council and

1587
01:23:02,492 --> 01:23:04,572
Speaker 2: the government to invest in it, you know, that's kind

1588
01:23:04,572 --> 01:23:07,012
Speaker 2: of the gap in the in the chain, so to speak.

1589
01:23:07,093 --> 01:23:10,052
Speaker 2: Isn't it that you need that whole you know, definitely

1590
01:23:10,053 --> 01:23:12,852
Speaker 2: need the high schools to invest and encourage them to

1591
01:23:12,933 --> 01:23:15,612
Speaker 2: have at the bare minimum athletics day because that's where

1592
01:23:15,652 --> 01:23:20,253
Speaker 2: it starts regionals and all the rest of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Hannah,

1593
01:23:20,293 --> 01:23:22,532
Speaker 2: thank you very much for giving us a call, and

1594
01:23:22,612 --> 01:23:24,133
Speaker 2: all the best to your son. I know it's going

1595
01:23:24,173 --> 01:23:26,013
Speaker 2: to be a yeah, it's going to be hard for

1596
01:23:26,053 --> 01:23:28,412
Speaker 2: you as a parent over the sporting season, so go well,

1597
01:23:29,893 --> 01:23:32,093
Speaker 2: all right, nice suspect. Thank you very much. Oh one

1598
01:23:32,173 --> 01:23:35,093
Speaker 2: hundred eighty ten eighty. So are you like Hannah? I mean,

1599
01:23:35,133 --> 01:23:37,772
Speaker 2: that does surprise me that no athletics day at a

1600
01:23:37,812 --> 01:23:40,412
Speaker 2: big high school in christ that was bread and butter

1601
01:23:40,452 --> 01:23:42,372
Speaker 2: when I was grown up? Is that the same where

1602
01:23:42,412 --> 01:23:44,892
Speaker 2: you are? Is athletics day gone? Is it a thing

1603
01:23:44,893 --> 01:23:47,253
Speaker 2: of the past? Nineteen ninety two is the text number.

1604
01:23:47,492 --> 01:23:49,932
Speaker 2: We will be back very short letters thirteen pass three

1605
01:23:50,093 --> 01:23:52,053
Speaker 2: us talks. That'd be for a good afternoon to you.

1606
01:23:52,173 --> 01:23:54,933
Speaker 2: It's sixteen past three. So we're talking about athletics in

1607
01:23:54,973 --> 01:23:58,372
Speaker 2: New Zealand at the grass roots level. Is there's still

1608
01:23:58,372 --> 01:24:01,253
Speaker 2: that support and community passion when we've got the likes

1609
01:24:01,293 --> 01:24:06,133
Speaker 2: of Hamish kur Zoe Hobbs, Sam Ruth absolutely absolute superstars

1610
01:24:06,133 --> 01:24:08,132
Speaker 2: on the world stage at the moment, what is happening

1611
01:24:08,532 --> 01:24:10,692
Speaker 2: at the bottom floor, so to speak. This is on

1612
01:24:10,732 --> 01:24:13,812
Speaker 2: the back of the head of Athletics New Zealand, Cam Wallace.

1613
01:24:13,973 --> 01:24:17,492
Speaker 2: He is calling for in cam Mitchell, I should say

1614
01:24:17,893 --> 01:24:20,812
Speaker 2: not cam Wallace, cam Mitchell calling for the government to

1615
01:24:20,853 --> 01:24:24,173
Speaker 2: invest in a dedicated athletics stadium ahead of the Commonwealth

1616
01:24:24,253 --> 01:24:26,532
Speaker 2: twenty thirty four. Bid get a Adam, how are you?

1617
01:24:27,732 --> 01:24:28,612
Speaker 15: I d thanks?

1618
01:24:29,053 --> 01:24:32,412
Speaker 2: So your daughter is is she currently in athletics or

1619
01:24:32,412 --> 01:24:34,492
Speaker 2: she's doing a whole raft of different sporting.

1620
01:24:36,612 --> 01:24:36,732
Speaker 7: Oh.

1621
01:24:36,853 --> 01:24:40,772
Speaker 9: Actually, just driving home and I heard this topic about

1622
01:24:40,853 --> 01:24:44,293
Speaker 9: pathways for kids and sports. I wasn't aware that it

1623
01:24:44,333 --> 01:24:46,333
Speaker 9: was solely based around athletics.

1624
01:24:46,772 --> 01:24:48,812
Speaker 2: That's all right, but what is your daughter competing?

1625
01:24:50,013 --> 01:24:52,212
Speaker 7: So I've got two daughters and they both.

1626
01:24:52,093 --> 01:24:55,412
Speaker 2: Box, right, Okay, Well, no, this is relevant, Adam, because

1627
01:24:55,412 --> 01:24:59,093
Speaker 2: it's become a broader conversation around where we're actually investing

1628
01:24:59,572 --> 01:25:02,772
Speaker 2: into sports outside of the traditional rugby and cricket, you know,

1629
01:25:02,812 --> 01:25:05,532
Speaker 2: whether some more focus needs to be on those other

1630
01:25:05,572 --> 01:25:08,852
Speaker 2: sporting ventures, particularly when kids are young. So clearly for

1631
01:25:08,933 --> 01:25:12,572
Speaker 2: your daughter, boxing is one of those, and she's all

1632
01:25:12,612 --> 01:25:13,492
Speaker 2: being self funded.

1633
01:25:14,933 --> 01:25:17,773
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, funded by the bank of Mum and Dad effectively.

1634
01:25:18,213 --> 01:25:20,452
Speaker 9: I've got two daughters. They started when they were eight

1635
01:25:20,492 --> 01:25:24,132
Speaker 9: and nine years old. Fast forward a lot of years,

1636
01:25:24,213 --> 01:25:26,572
Speaker 9: eight or nine odd years. My oldest one is eighteen

1637
01:25:26,572 --> 01:25:29,932
Speaker 9: and my youngest one is seventeen and they're still boxing.

1638
01:25:30,652 --> 01:25:33,492
Speaker 9: The youngest one is three time New Zealand national champion

1639
01:25:33,652 --> 01:25:37,652
Speaker 9: and currently right now in Thailand representing New Zealand at

1640
01:25:37,692 --> 01:25:44,932
Speaker 9: the Futures Cup, which is a youth Youth Olympics qualifying tournament,

1641
01:25:45,013 --> 01:25:49,013
Speaker 9: so it's the world stage. She's there with eighty three countries,

1642
01:25:49,492 --> 01:25:53,732
Speaker 9: the best in the world over five hundred boxes and

1643
01:25:53,772 --> 01:25:57,852
Speaker 9: of course it's all self funded. It's all the other

1644
01:25:57,893 --> 01:26:01,412
Speaker 9: work in between that, you know. Like in my girls

1645
01:26:01,492 --> 01:26:04,972
Speaker 9: particular sport, they have what's called development camp, So when

1646
01:26:05,013 --> 01:26:07,852
Speaker 9: you win New Zealand national titles and stuff, you get

1647
01:26:07,853 --> 01:26:10,933
Speaker 9: invited to the camp to further your skills before the

1648
01:26:10,973 --> 01:26:14,652
Speaker 9: other New Zealand national champions in different weight categories and

1649
01:26:14,692 --> 01:26:17,893
Speaker 9: you're sort of all trained together, which is absolutely fantastic

1650
01:26:17,973 --> 01:26:20,572
Speaker 9: and essential. But once again it's all funded by the

1651
01:26:20,612 --> 01:26:23,532
Speaker 9: Bank of Mum and Dad and these camps, so you know,

1652
01:26:23,572 --> 01:26:26,013
Speaker 9: they pick a place, one place in New Zealand and

1653
01:26:26,173 --> 01:26:29,812
Speaker 9: every national champion that's in the squad is invited to

1654
01:26:30,093 --> 01:26:32,572
Speaker 9: South London, travel the length of New Zealand for these

1655
01:26:32,612 --> 01:26:36,572
Speaker 9: training camps which can run anywhere from a weekend to

1656
01:26:36,652 --> 01:26:41,092
Speaker 9: sort of five days depending on what it's for, et cetera,

1657
01:26:41,093 --> 01:26:41,692
Speaker 9: et cetera.

1658
01:26:41,812 --> 01:26:45,492
Speaker 2: So so you know, you get no you get no

1659
01:26:45,612 --> 01:26:49,093
Speaker 2: assistance from the likes of High Performance New Zealand or

1660
01:26:49,133 --> 01:26:52,572
Speaker 2: that you know, the Boxing Federation considering your daughter as

1661
01:26:52,612 --> 01:26:57,532
Speaker 2: representing New Zealand on the world stage. There's nothing, there.

1662
01:26:57,412 --> 01:27:00,213
Speaker 9: Is some of it. Like you know, boxing New Zealand

1663
01:27:00,253 --> 01:27:04,012
Speaker 9: has been absolutely fantastic. I want to say, like absolutely fantastic. Man,

1664
01:27:04,372 --> 01:27:06,492
Speaker 9: I'm not I'm not speaking negative about them at all,

1665
01:27:06,532 --> 01:27:09,253
Speaker 9: that they've been absolutely fantastic. But at the end of

1666
01:27:09,253 --> 01:27:11,452
Speaker 9: the day, I guess with these types of sports, when

1667
01:27:12,013 --> 01:27:15,333
Speaker 9: you're competing on the world stage, like New Zealand doesn't

1668
01:27:15,333 --> 01:27:18,492
Speaker 9: have a lot of money, you know, and like it

1669
01:27:18,532 --> 01:27:21,293
Speaker 9: all costs, Like these trips cost thousands and thousands and

1670
01:27:21,333 --> 01:27:24,133
Speaker 9: thousands of dollars and the training camps all around New

1671
01:27:24,173 --> 01:27:26,532
Speaker 9: Zealand that's cost me over ten thousand dollars thus far

1672
01:27:27,652 --> 01:27:30,372
Speaker 9: in the last four weeks for this process.

1673
01:27:30,492 --> 01:27:32,452
Speaker 2: I'm just having a look at it. Yeah, I'm just

1674
01:27:32,452 --> 01:27:34,732
Speaker 2: having a look at a story Adam in this regard

1675
01:27:34,772 --> 01:27:38,732
Speaker 2: and it was quoting national coach Believe Mehan from Boxing

1676
01:27:38,812 --> 01:27:42,053
Speaker 2: New Zealand. And so they had their funding from High

1677
01:27:42,053 --> 01:27:44,572
Speaker 2: Performance Sport cut from one hundred and sixty five thousand

1678
01:27:44,572 --> 01:27:49,572
Speaker 2: to one hundred thousand. That is is pugeral money, isn't it,

1679
01:27:50,133 --> 01:27:52,292
Speaker 2: you know even at one hundred and sixty five thousand,

1680
01:27:52,572 --> 01:27:55,253
Speaker 2: but one hundred thousand dollars to try and allocate to

1681
01:27:55,372 --> 01:27:58,132
Speaker 2: the many athletes that they've got represent in New Zealand

1682
01:27:58,133 --> 01:27:59,652
Speaker 2: on the world stage. That's tough.

1683
01:28:00,772 --> 01:28:04,692
Speaker 9: Yeah, And all of this like this one that my

1684
01:28:04,853 --> 01:28:08,452
Speaker 9: youngest is that currently chief fights tonight five o'clock New

1685
01:28:08,532 --> 01:28:16,293
Speaker 9: Zealand time against Kikistan. But like you know, like it's uniforms,

1686
01:28:15,732 --> 01:28:18,772
Speaker 9: it's there's just so much to travel and sure, you know,

1687
01:28:18,893 --> 01:28:23,932
Speaker 9: like them, you know, they organize everything, you know, trying

1688
01:28:23,933 --> 01:28:27,732
Speaker 9: to organize a squad of fifteen youth plus coaches to

1689
01:28:27,853 --> 01:28:31,213
Speaker 9: head to another country for two weeks with accommodation and

1690
01:28:31,293 --> 01:28:35,372
Speaker 9: travel and travel to the venues and back and all

1691
01:28:35,412 --> 01:28:38,692
Speaker 9: that kind of stuff. But yeah, it's just that we've

1692
01:28:38,692 --> 01:28:40,173
Speaker 9: been in the sport for a long time, and I

1693
01:28:40,253 --> 01:28:42,133
Speaker 9: guess my girls are lucky enough that me and my

1694
01:28:42,173 --> 01:28:45,293
Speaker 9: wife are in a position to be able to pay

1695
01:28:45,333 --> 01:28:48,253
Speaker 9: for these types of things. But in our eight nine

1696
01:28:48,333 --> 01:28:51,412
Speaker 9: years of doing it, I have seen plenty of very

1697
01:28:51,532 --> 01:28:56,532
Speaker 9: very very skilled young men and women, you know, young

1698
01:28:56,973 --> 01:29:02,172
Speaker 9: young teens, kids with so much opportunity that sadly didn't

1699
01:29:02,173 --> 01:29:04,812
Speaker 9: make a cut or didn't make a date deadline due

1700
01:29:04,853 --> 01:29:05,253
Speaker 9: to money.

1701
01:29:06,213 --> 01:29:09,852
Speaker 2: When people like your daughter and other boxing athletes do

1702
01:29:09,933 --> 01:29:12,572
Speaker 2: well on the international stage and they come home with

1703
01:29:12,732 --> 01:29:15,452
Speaker 2: medals or they get to the you know, near the

1704
01:29:15,532 --> 01:29:19,253
Speaker 2: very top, does that change the equation in terms of funding,

1705
01:29:19,692 --> 01:29:21,973
Speaker 2: because you know, I understand that high performance in New

1706
01:29:22,053 --> 01:29:24,812
Speaker 2: Zealand has only so much money they can dedicate and

1707
01:29:24,853 --> 01:29:27,412
Speaker 2: they try to allocate it to where they're going to

1708
01:29:27,412 --> 01:29:29,492
Speaker 2: get the most bang for buck. But I would assume

1709
01:29:29,532 --> 01:29:32,253
Speaker 2: that if people like your daughter and other boxes are

1710
01:29:32,253 --> 01:29:35,372
Speaker 2: doing well then and bringing home medals and that would

1711
01:29:35,412 --> 01:29:38,052
Speaker 2: mean more funding from high performance in the government.

1712
01:29:39,412 --> 01:29:41,532
Speaker 9: Yes, you know, like a lot of it, I guess

1713
01:29:41,572 --> 01:29:44,532
Speaker 9: comes down to how the boxing club is set up

1714
01:29:44,572 --> 01:29:49,133
Speaker 9: initially as well, like like for example, you know, like

1715
01:29:49,173 --> 01:29:51,133
Speaker 9: I've tried to get a bit of funding for my

1716
01:29:51,253 --> 01:29:54,412
Speaker 9: daughter's trip, and a lot of the people of dealt

1717
01:29:54,452 --> 01:29:58,732
Speaker 9: with and organizations and things don't fund individuals. So like

1718
01:29:58,772 --> 01:30:01,532
Speaker 9: the Lottery's Charities Commission and the Gaming Trust and all

1719
01:30:01,572 --> 01:30:04,412
Speaker 9: those types of people, they do not fund individuals. Because

1720
01:30:04,452 --> 01:30:07,892
Speaker 9: my daughter is an individual sport, She's an individual person.

1721
01:30:08,372 --> 01:30:11,652
Speaker 9: He's the only person that Alex try, if you know

1722
01:30:11,652 --> 01:30:14,492
Speaker 9: what I'm saying. Whereas if you're like, I don't know,

1723
01:30:14,612 --> 01:30:16,692
Speaker 9: Like let's say you're a rugby club and you've got

1724
01:30:16,692 --> 01:30:19,372
Speaker 9: a board, and you've got a treasurer, and you're an

1725
01:30:19,412 --> 01:30:22,452
Speaker 9: actual club club club and you've got you know, like

1726
01:30:22,572 --> 01:30:24,812
Speaker 9: a you know, with that whole thing set up, you

1727
01:30:24,812 --> 01:30:27,173
Speaker 9: can apply for funding for a lot of reason all

1728
01:30:27,173 --> 01:30:30,612
Speaker 9: that kind of stuff through team situations and it's easier

1729
01:30:30,652 --> 01:30:33,412
Speaker 9: to get funding that way than an individual.

1730
01:30:34,253 --> 01:30:36,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear what you're saying, Adam, And

1731
01:30:36,933 --> 01:30:38,532
Speaker 2: can I just say all the best to your daughter?

1732
01:30:38,612 --> 01:30:40,852
Speaker 2: So she's up against Kazakhstan. Did you say tonight a

1733
01:30:40,933 --> 01:30:45,293
Speaker 2: boxing from Kazakhstan, Yeah, Kennegard, Yeah.

1734
01:30:45,053 --> 01:30:45,852
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah.

1735
01:30:46,093 --> 01:30:51,173
Speaker 9: In between China Slasher. Mongolia is the little country there.

1736
01:30:51,213 --> 01:30:53,372
Speaker 9: They are a country of seven million people, so they're

1737
01:30:53,452 --> 01:30:55,333
Speaker 9: quite a similar size.

1738
01:30:55,093 --> 01:30:55,772
Speaker 11: To New Zealand.

1739
01:30:56,372 --> 01:30:58,333
Speaker 2: Hope she goes Heah, it's a simple it's.

1740
01:30:58,173 --> 01:31:00,612
Speaker 9: A simple knockout. If you lose the fight, you're out.

1741
01:31:02,213 --> 01:31:05,532
Speaker 9: New Zealand's got a team over there of about twelve

1742
01:31:05,572 --> 01:31:10,212
Speaker 9: to fifteen I think, including coaches. Being four fights so far, we've.

1743
01:31:10,013 --> 01:31:10,932
Speaker 10: Had one win.

1744
01:31:12,253 --> 01:31:15,452
Speaker 16: And four losses I think, so yeah, five of four.

1745
01:31:16,213 --> 01:31:18,692
Speaker 2: Well, all tonight, all the very best to her, Adam,

1746
01:31:18,732 --> 01:31:21,173
Speaker 2: you'd be a very proud dad, and hopefully she comes

1747
01:31:21,173 --> 01:31:24,052
Speaker 2: away with the win and she smashes it over in Thailand.

1748
01:31:24,053 --> 01:31:26,652
Speaker 2: Thanks very much for giving me a call. It is

1749
01:31:26,853 --> 01:31:27,932
Speaker 2: twenty four past three.

1750
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Speaker 2: win a trip for two to the Tour de France.

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Speaker 2: are in to win. Right back very shortly taking your

1763
01:32:12,853 --> 01:32:15,532
Speaker 2: calls on O eight hundred eighty ten eighty. It is

1764
01:32:15,572 --> 01:32:16,692
Speaker 2: twenty five past three.

1765
01:32:21,253 --> 01:32:24,612
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call OH eight hundred

1766
01:32:24,692 --> 01:32:26,812
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZB.

1767
01:32:26,853 --> 01:32:29,452
Speaker 2: For a good afternoon. Sure it is twenty seven past three.

1768
01:32:29,492 --> 01:32:33,093
Speaker 2: So we're talking about investment into athletics stadium. That's the

1769
01:32:33,173 --> 01:32:36,692
Speaker 2: call from the head of Athletics New Zealand, Cam Mitchell.

1770
01:32:36,772 --> 01:32:39,652
Speaker 2: He's imploring the government to give them some money for

1771
01:32:39,692 --> 01:32:43,652
Speaker 2: a dedicated stadium ahead of our potential bid for the

1772
01:32:43,692 --> 01:32:46,652
Speaker 2: Commonwealth Games twenty thirty four. But if you're involved in

1773
01:32:46,692 --> 01:32:49,612
Speaker 2: the grassroots athletics community really can to hear from you

1774
01:32:49,652 --> 01:32:50,852
Speaker 2: get a lee how are you.

1775
01:32:51,532 --> 01:32:55,892
Speaker 4: Okod I I was given a call because building yet

1776
01:32:55,933 --> 01:33:03,372
Speaker 4: another stadium is beyond ridiculous, quite frankly, financial wise, when

1777
01:33:03,412 --> 01:33:07,732
Speaker 4: you look at every single stadium in New Zealand, not one,

1778
01:33:08,093 --> 01:33:13,333
Speaker 4: not one is actually financially viable. They are all propped

1779
01:33:13,412 --> 01:33:18,253
Speaker 4: up by multi millions a year by each council. So

1780
01:33:18,412 --> 01:33:21,732
Speaker 4: now that we want to spend multi millions on yet

1781
01:33:21,732 --> 01:33:26,612
Speaker 4: another stadia that will be most of the time, then

1782
01:33:26,692 --> 01:33:29,013
Speaker 4: tell me which council is going to be lumbered with

1783
01:33:29,093 --> 01:33:32,532
Speaker 4: the absolute millions it takes. And it is millions to

1784
01:33:32,732 --> 01:33:37,813
Speaker 4: uptake a stadium for the upkeep. I hear that, why

1785
01:33:37,853 --> 01:33:40,932
Speaker 4: aren't we repurposing? So why aren't we potentially looking at

1786
01:33:41,053 --> 01:33:44,213
Speaker 4: saying let's look at our stadia around New Zealand, and

1787
01:33:44,213 --> 01:33:45,412
Speaker 4: why don't we repurpose?

1788
01:33:46,772 --> 01:33:50,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look that argument about the white elephant of stadiums,

1789
01:33:50,893 --> 01:33:53,652
Speaker 2: You're quite right. They can be a bit of a

1790
01:33:53,732 --> 01:33:56,532
Speaker 2: money sink for for many councils and for the government

1791
01:33:56,572 --> 01:34:00,333
Speaker 2: as well for that matter. But there are wider benefits

1792
01:34:00,372 --> 01:34:02,932
Speaker 2: from these sort of events, right is that? I mean,

1793
01:34:02,973 --> 01:34:05,412
Speaker 2: even if you take away the argument when we look

1794
01:34:05,412 --> 01:34:07,612
Speaker 2: at rugby and what's happening in the super competition at

1795
01:34:07,612 --> 01:34:10,293
Speaker 2: the moment, but something like this, I could see, Yes,

1796
01:34:10,333 --> 01:34:14,052
Speaker 2: it's going to be wildly expensive initially, but the wider

1797
01:34:14,213 --> 01:34:18,773
Speaker 2: benefits of getting some hype and investment around grassroots athletic

1798
01:34:19,213 --> 01:34:23,173
Speaker 2: athletics and raising up the next generation of superstars, but

1799
01:34:23,213 --> 01:34:27,133
Speaker 2: also hopefully being able to attract some of the big

1800
01:34:27,173 --> 01:34:29,812
Speaker 2: events like the World Champs here, which is a big

1801
01:34:29,893 --> 01:34:33,612
Speaker 2: economic boom wherever it's held, that might start to offset that.

1802
01:34:33,812 --> 01:34:36,093
Speaker 2: But I look, that is always the argument with a

1803
01:34:36,133 --> 01:34:39,372
Speaker 2: new stadium is that they're wildly expensive. They continue to

1804
01:34:39,412 --> 01:34:42,333
Speaker 2: be expensive, but the wider benefits about the well being

1805
01:34:42,333 --> 01:34:44,293
Speaker 2: of the community play a part as well.

1806
01:34:44,412 --> 01:34:46,412
Speaker 4: Yeah, they are, but if you look at the likes

1807
01:34:46,412 --> 01:34:49,492
Speaker 4: of eden Park alone, which is our biggest and has

1808
01:34:49,532 --> 01:34:55,133
Speaker 4: the highest profile, that is not financially profitable, it's not so.

1809
01:34:56,053 --> 01:34:58,532
Speaker 4: I mean, that's the thing is as much as I

1810
01:34:58,612 --> 01:35:01,812
Speaker 4: agree in principle of what you're saying, in reality, we're

1811
01:35:01,853 --> 01:35:05,372
Speaker 4: only a little country. We can't afford it. We just

1812
01:35:05,532 --> 01:35:06,732
Speaker 4: cannot afford it.

1813
01:35:07,013 --> 01:35:10,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think I mean Eden Park specifically. We

1814
01:35:10,532 --> 01:35:14,093
Speaker 2: know the hurdles that Eden Park's CEO has had to

1815
01:35:14,213 --> 01:35:16,933
Speaker 2: jump through to try and increase the number of concerts

1816
01:35:16,973 --> 01:35:20,253
Speaker 2: and sports events and different types of events, and he's

1817
01:35:20,253 --> 01:35:23,093
Speaker 2: managed to get some concession, but that has been part

1818
01:35:23,133 --> 01:35:25,052
Speaker 2: of the problem that he's had to fight the local

1819
01:35:25,053 --> 01:35:27,572
Speaker 2: community to say, this is a stadium. A stadium is

1820
01:35:27,612 --> 01:35:29,692
Speaker 2: there to hold events, and I want to bring a

1821
01:35:29,692 --> 01:35:33,293
Speaker 2: whole raft of different entertainment options to this stadium. And

1822
01:35:33,333 --> 01:35:36,652
Speaker 2: that's you know, the community made it very hart. Thankfully

1823
01:35:36,732 --> 01:35:38,612
Speaker 2: that's starting to change, but that is all part of

1824
01:35:38,612 --> 01:35:40,812
Speaker 2: it is how do you use a stadium to the

1825
01:35:40,812 --> 01:35:43,773
Speaker 2: best of its ability. It's not just there for rugby

1826
01:35:43,933 --> 01:35:46,892
Speaker 2: or even in this case, just for athletics. It's got

1827
01:35:46,933 --> 01:35:47,973
Speaker 2: to be multi.

1828
01:35:47,812 --> 01:35:50,492
Speaker 4: Use, right, Yeah, well, I mean the thing is some

1829
01:35:50,532 --> 01:35:55,333
Speaker 4: of the stadium now is multi use, and you unfortunately

1830
01:35:56,973 --> 01:36:00,412
Speaker 4: because the share upkeep versus the amount of events. And

1831
01:36:00,492 --> 01:36:03,533
Speaker 4: of course the only way to make a stadium financially

1832
01:36:03,612 --> 01:36:07,812
Speaker 4: viable is not through local athletics, local sports or whatever

1833
01:36:08,093 --> 01:36:10,893
Speaker 4: that kind of a gift of the community and you

1834
01:36:10,973 --> 01:36:13,612
Speaker 4: pay for some of that new rate. The only way

1835
01:36:13,612 --> 01:36:16,772
Speaker 4: to actually make revenue is to have paid events in

1836
01:36:16,812 --> 01:36:20,572
Speaker 4: the stadiums, like concerts, like whatever it may be. There's

1837
01:36:20,692 --> 01:36:24,772
Speaker 4: not enough odd set that comes to New Zealand that

1838
01:36:24,933 --> 01:36:30,013
Speaker 4: you could fill multiple stadiums. They're just don't. How do

1839
01:36:30,053 --> 01:36:33,612
Speaker 4: you offset costs because it's not going to happen by rugby. Whorry, No,

1840
01:36:33,772 --> 01:36:36,092
Speaker 4: that's not happening. It's not going to happen by league,

1841
01:36:36,372 --> 01:36:39,013
Speaker 4: it's not going to happen by fall, you know, some

1842
01:36:39,093 --> 01:36:41,812
Speaker 4: of those big field events. But it's certainly not going

1843
01:36:41,893 --> 01:36:46,253
Speaker 4: to happen by athletics alone. And remember all of these events,

1844
01:36:46,253 --> 01:36:50,732
Speaker 4: including cricket and that are seasonal. So I think we've

1845
01:36:50,812 --> 01:36:54,852
Speaker 4: just got to get really pragmatic about what New Zealand

1846
01:36:54,933 --> 01:36:59,692
Speaker 4: and New Zealanders can afford. And as I say, if

1847
01:36:59,732 --> 01:37:03,612
Speaker 4: we've got white Elephants stadiums, now, why aren't we looking

1848
01:37:03,652 --> 01:37:07,372
Speaker 4: at repurposing rather than building yet another stadium which is

1849
01:37:07,412 --> 01:37:10,732
Speaker 4: going to cost the country and the region, which is

1850
01:37:10,853 --> 01:37:14,572
Speaker 4: wherever it sitts millions upon millions upon millions of dollars.

1851
01:37:15,173 --> 01:37:17,732
Speaker 2: It's a prude and arguments Lee, thank you very much

1852
01:37:17,812 --> 01:37:20,572
Speaker 2: for giving me a call, and thank you to everybody

1853
01:37:20,572 --> 01:37:23,532
Speaker 2: who text and gave me a buzz during that conversation.

1854
01:37:23,572 --> 01:37:25,053
Speaker 2: I'll just read out this text before we get to

1855
01:37:25,093 --> 01:37:27,612
Speaker 2: the headlines. Hi, Tyler, my daughter decided not to do

1856
01:37:27,692 --> 01:37:31,293
Speaker 2: athletics this season due two the commitment of attending Saturday

1857
01:37:31,333 --> 01:37:34,052
Speaker 2: events each week. Her high school in christ Church also

1858
01:37:34,213 --> 01:37:37,253
Speaker 2: does not do an athletics day. She does belong to

1859
01:37:37,293 --> 01:37:40,932
Speaker 2: the Port Hills Athletics Club which has been amazing and

1860
01:37:41,053 --> 01:37:44,133
Speaker 2: soon she will switch to cross country running again. She

1861
01:37:44,133 --> 01:37:46,372
Speaker 2: can represent her school at events, but there is no

1862
01:37:46,532 --> 01:37:48,732
Speaker 2: school events. We have to sign her up and make

1863
01:37:48,772 --> 01:37:51,173
Speaker 2: sure she gets to the event ourselves. I do agree

1864
01:37:51,173 --> 01:37:53,932
Speaker 2: that easier pathways for them overall would make a lot

1865
01:37:53,933 --> 01:37:57,253
Speaker 2: of sense for New Zealand's future. That's from Emily, Thank

1866
01:37:57,293 --> 01:38:01,533
Speaker 2: you once again for contributing. Really enjoyed that discussion. Headlines

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Speaker 2: with Ray Lean coming up. It is twenty seven to.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Rayleen, it is twenty three to four.

1891
01:39:34,933 --> 01:39:37,053
Speaker 2: Just for the next twenty five minutes whatever, chat about

1892
01:39:37,053 --> 01:39:40,372
Speaker 2: what's happening in black Ball on the West Coast. So

1893
01:39:40,452 --> 01:39:43,452
Speaker 2: the iconic formerly the black Ball Hilton Pub on the

1894
01:39:43,452 --> 01:39:46,452
Speaker 2: West Coast has been forced to remove its much loved

1895
01:39:46,532 --> 01:39:50,412
Speaker 2: outdoor seating area. This was after a routine liquor license

1896
01:39:50,492 --> 01:39:54,252
Speaker 2: renewal revealed the tables and chairs where outside the venue's

1897
01:39:54,293 --> 01:39:58,812
Speaker 2: official license boundary, meaning patrons and customers could no longer

1898
01:39:58,893 --> 01:40:02,132
Speaker 2: legally drink outside without risking fines of up to twenty

1899
01:40:02,293 --> 01:40:06,452
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. So owner Cynthia Robbins, she said the seating

1900
01:40:06,492 --> 01:40:09,053
Speaker 2: had been used for decades and I was central to

1901
01:40:09,093 --> 01:40:13,452
Speaker 2: the pub's social atmosphere. But the gray District Licensing Committee

1902
01:40:13,452 --> 01:40:16,732
Speaker 2: clarified the boundary and only extended the renewed license to

1903
01:40:16,772 --> 01:40:20,412
Speaker 2: the buildings for Randa, not the wider outdoor area, despite

1904
01:40:20,492 --> 01:40:24,492
Speaker 2: similar outdoor dining arrangements being permitted in nearby Graymouth. So

1905
01:40:24,572 --> 01:40:28,012
Speaker 2: that leaves the owner, Cynthia Robbins, now pushing the council

1906
01:40:28,053 --> 01:40:30,972
Speaker 2: to update its outdoor dining policy so the treasured tables

1907
01:40:31,492 --> 01:40:34,293
Speaker 2: can return. So what I really want to have a

1908
01:40:34,372 --> 01:40:37,532
Speaker 2: chat about is again it's these licensing committee. So this

1909
01:40:37,572 --> 01:40:39,852
Speaker 2: is the black Ball Pub. It's got a population Blackpool

1910
01:40:39,893 --> 01:40:43,173
Speaker 2: with around about three hundred people. It's a mining town traditionally,

1911
01:40:44,133 --> 01:40:47,532
Speaker 2: and this pub is iconic. It is there for the

1912
01:40:47,532 --> 01:40:50,293
Speaker 2: people at Blackpool and any tourists who come to sit

1913
01:40:50,372 --> 01:40:54,133
Speaker 2: outside on these nice tables and have a drink and

1914
01:40:54,173 --> 01:40:57,932
Speaker 2: take it all in. But the licensing committee come through.

1915
01:40:58,093 --> 01:41:01,772
Speaker 2: They've done this for decades, had tens, ten, ten years

1916
01:41:01,772 --> 01:41:05,012
Speaker 2: of having these tables outside. This licensing committee comes through

1917
01:41:05,492 --> 01:41:08,932
Speaker 2: with their pen and paper and say you're outside the rules.

1918
01:41:09,213 --> 01:41:10,852
Speaker 2: Change it, or we're going to whack you with a

1919
01:41:10,893 --> 01:41:14,652
Speaker 2: twenty thousand dollars fine. Does that sound fair to you?

1920
01:41:14,732 --> 01:41:17,093
Speaker 2: Does this sound like the flexibility that's really needed when

1921
01:41:17,133 --> 01:41:19,333
Speaker 2: it comes to these licensing committees. And we hear this

1922
01:41:19,452 --> 01:41:22,612
Speaker 2: again and again when it comes to hospitality in New

1923
01:41:22,732 --> 01:41:25,772
Speaker 2: Zealand and a little place like the Blackpool Pub being

1924
01:41:26,013 --> 01:41:30,852
Speaker 2: absolutely hounded by these licensing committees. And I understand rules

1925
01:41:30,933 --> 01:41:32,732
Speaker 2: or rules, and you've got to play by the rules.

1926
01:41:33,173 --> 01:41:35,972
Speaker 2: But when you've got tables outside and nobody is doing

1927
01:41:36,053 --> 01:41:38,572
Speaker 2: any harm having a bear out in the sun, and

1928
01:41:38,612 --> 01:41:42,052
Speaker 2: the Gray District Licensing committee comes around and say, nope,

1929
01:41:42,133 --> 01:41:44,213
Speaker 2: that's against the rules. Remove it. We're going to find

1930
01:41:44,253 --> 01:41:48,372
Speaker 2: you heavily. Is that really being business friendly? Is that

1931
01:41:48,532 --> 01:41:51,572
Speaker 2: rarely the flexibility we want to see when it comes

1932
01:41:51,572 --> 01:41:54,973
Speaker 2: to hospitality and pubs up and down the country. Oh eight,

1933
01:41:54,973 --> 01:41:57,492
Speaker 2: one hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call

1934
01:41:57,532 --> 01:42:01,372
Speaker 2: if you work in hospo the palava that you've got

1935
01:42:01,412 --> 01:42:04,612
Speaker 2: to go through when it comes to licensing committees in

1936
01:42:04,652 --> 01:42:09,892
Speaker 2: your district. Is it just becoming too much? You hear

1937
01:42:10,013 --> 01:42:13,772
Speaker 2: again and again, HOSPO. They're up against it economically, we

1938
01:42:13,893 --> 01:42:16,692
Speaker 2: know that, but then you've got the red tape and

1939
01:42:16,933 --> 01:42:20,053
Speaker 2: bureaucracy that comes on top of that. Does there not

1940
01:42:20,213 --> 01:42:24,492
Speaker 2: need to be a little bit more flexibility in trying

1941
01:42:24,612 --> 01:42:28,892
Speaker 2: to help these organizations keep running and a little bit

1942
01:42:28,893 --> 01:42:31,253
Speaker 2: of common sense. When you look at a place like Blackpool,

1943
01:42:31,452 --> 01:42:35,253
Speaker 2: population of three hundred, there's some tables outside, there's never been,

1944
01:42:35,452 --> 01:42:39,533
Speaker 2: according to the story, any real issue about antisocial behavior?

1945
01:42:40,293 --> 01:42:42,932
Speaker 2: Is that not an option that whoever came through from

1946
01:42:42,973 --> 01:42:45,452
Speaker 2: the committee can look at that and say, little bit

1947
01:42:45,492 --> 01:42:48,173
Speaker 2: outside the traditional rules. But we're going to have some

1948
01:42:48,213 --> 01:42:51,293
Speaker 2: flexibility here because this isn't causing any issue, and in fact,

1949
01:42:51,532 --> 01:42:53,572
Speaker 2: it is great for this community and it's great for

1950
01:42:53,652 --> 01:42:57,013
Speaker 2: you as a HOSPO owner. Oh eight hundred eighty ten

1951
01:42:57,133 --> 01:42:59,732
Speaker 2: eighty is that number to call? Nine to nine to

1952
01:42:59,812 --> 01:43:03,812
Speaker 2: two When it comes to the liquor licensing committees? Does

1953
01:43:03,853 --> 01:43:05,372
Speaker 2: there need to be a bit of an overhaul on

1954
01:43:05,412 --> 01:43:07,372
Speaker 2: the way they operate? Love to hear your thoughts on

1955
01:43:07,412 --> 01:43:09,652
Speaker 2: this one. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

1956
01:43:09,692 --> 01:43:11,972
Speaker 2: that number to call and if you prefer to send

1957
01:43:11,973 --> 01:43:15,333
Speaker 2: the text nineteen ninet two is that number back very shortly?

1958
01:43:15,412 --> 01:43:16,852
Speaker 2: It is nineteen to four.

1959
01:43:18,372 --> 01:43:21,732
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

1960
01:43:22,093 --> 01:43:26,412
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons with Skoda.

1961
01:43:26,532 --> 01:43:29,652
Speaker 1: Please scoter codes every day at Skoda dot co dot

1962
01:43:29,772 --> 01:43:30,732
Speaker 1: Nz news Dogs.

1963
01:43:30,732 --> 01:43:33,932
Speaker 2: That'd be very good. Afternoon, Ji. It is seventeen to four.

1964
01:43:34,013 --> 01:43:38,532
Speaker 2: So we're talking about the iconic black Ball historic pub.

1965
01:43:38,732 --> 01:43:42,693
Speaker 2: So for decades they've been allowed to have furniture outside

1966
01:43:42,853 --> 01:43:47,612
Speaker 2: of their pub, but once the district Licensing Committee paid

1967
01:43:47,612 --> 01:43:49,692
Speaker 2: them a visit and had a look at the rules,

1968
01:43:49,732 --> 01:43:52,573
Speaker 2: they've been told to get rid of the furniture outside

1969
01:43:53,053 --> 01:43:56,173
Speaker 2: or face a twenty thousand dollars fine. There's been some

1970
01:43:56,293 --> 01:44:00,013
Speaker 2: back and ford and they've come to somewhat of an

1971
01:44:00,053 --> 01:44:03,173
Speaker 2: agreement that you're allowed some tables under the veranda area,

1972
01:44:03,492 --> 01:44:06,293
Speaker 2: but not in the same place as where they had it.

1973
01:44:06,372 --> 01:44:09,012
Speaker 2: So is this the flexibility we want to see from

1974
01:44:09,093 --> 01:44:11,213
Speaker 2: the likes of the licensing committee. Is there are too

1975
01:44:11,293 --> 01:44:14,572
Speaker 2: much red tape and bureaucracy and not enough common sense

1976
01:44:14,612 --> 01:44:17,412
Speaker 2: When you look at hospital or like a historic pub

1977
01:44:17,893 --> 01:44:20,572
Speaker 2: such as the Blackpool and say there's no harm in

1978
01:44:20,612 --> 01:44:23,692
Speaker 2: having all of these tables outside of your hotel. So

1979
01:44:23,692 --> 01:44:25,372
Speaker 2: we're just going to leave you. B Oh, eight hundred

1980
01:44:25,412 --> 01:44:27,852
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty is that number to call? Alan?

1981
01:44:27,893 --> 01:44:28,932
Speaker 2: How are you this afternoon?

1982
01:44:30,253 --> 01:44:30,692
Speaker 15: I'm sure.

1983
01:44:30,812 --> 01:44:34,213
Speaker 19: Look, I've been in the liquor in the street. Used

1984
01:44:34,253 --> 01:44:38,293
Speaker 19: to look after seventy or eighty pubs for one of

1985
01:44:38,293 --> 01:44:44,692
Speaker 19: the big one of the big pubs being people. And look,

1986
01:44:45,412 --> 01:44:48,452
Speaker 19: it's very clear. It's very clear. It has been very

1987
01:44:48,492 --> 01:44:53,253
Speaker 19: clear for thirty or forty years. And that is when

1988
01:44:53,293 --> 01:44:55,772
Speaker 19: you apply for your license, you're given a licensed area.

1989
01:44:56,532 --> 01:44:59,532
Speaker 19: If you have a restaurant area, you can here. You

1990
01:44:59,572 --> 01:45:02,052
Speaker 19: can serve lick up, but you can't serve closed bottle,

1991
01:45:02,492 --> 01:45:04,133
Speaker 19: even he has to be open. If you have a

1992
01:45:04,213 --> 01:45:06,732
Speaker 19: liquor store, you only you can only serve post bottle.

1993
01:45:06,812 --> 01:45:10,572
Speaker 19: You can't serve open bottle. You have a licensing area

1994
01:45:10,652 --> 01:45:15,013
Speaker 19: which says where people can be with liquor. Now, the

1995
01:45:15,013 --> 01:45:18,173
Speaker 19: thing would have been is that someone along the way

1996
01:45:18,532 --> 01:45:24,812
Speaker 19: has put those tables out here after the licensing area

1997
01:45:24,933 --> 01:45:27,572
Speaker 19: was struck. All they've got to do is go back

1998
01:45:27,612 --> 01:45:31,772
Speaker 19: to the last the Authority and apply for a change

1999
01:45:31,812 --> 01:45:34,812
Speaker 19: to the Lasting area. It's as simple as that. However,

2000
01:45:35,173 --> 01:45:39,572
Speaker 19: it may not necessarily be granted. Unfortunately. One of the

2001
01:45:39,572 --> 01:45:42,372
Speaker 19: things I found out with the Lasting Authority is that

2002
01:45:42,853 --> 01:45:46,253
Speaker 19: sometimes you can get the rivers that decide that they

2003
01:45:46,293 --> 01:45:50,893
Speaker 19: want to take the they want to restrict alcohol consumption,

2004
01:45:51,492 --> 01:45:54,612
Speaker 19: and by not allowing people to enjoy it outside, they

2005
01:45:54,652 --> 01:45:58,133
Speaker 19: think they're doing some good. So in the end, as

2006
01:45:58,133 --> 01:46:02,532
Speaker 19: I said, most of us hasn't changed. It's just and flexibility,

2007
01:46:02,933 --> 01:46:06,892
Speaker 19: as you know with councils, because they're the ones that coordinate.

2008
01:46:06,933 --> 01:46:11,253
Speaker 19: This is not the makeup so anyway, No.

2009
01:46:11,293 --> 01:46:13,732
Speaker 2: No, this is good information. But I mean, I suppose

2010
01:46:13,812 --> 01:46:16,053
Speaker 2: that is my point, Allen, that the likes of this

2011
01:46:16,133 --> 01:46:19,892
Speaker 2: particular pub, there's been no indication of any antisocial behavior.

2012
01:46:20,293 --> 01:46:24,013
Speaker 2: It was just an opportunity for locals and tourists to

2013
01:46:24,013 --> 01:46:26,252
Speaker 2: have a beer out in the sun on these tables,

2014
01:46:26,532 --> 01:46:28,732
Speaker 2: and someone from the committee because it hasn't been a

2015
01:46:28,732 --> 01:46:30,972
Speaker 2: problem for the last ten years, as the owner mentioned,

2016
01:46:30,973 --> 01:46:35,052
Speaker 2: they've been re licensed for the past three to five years,

2017
01:46:35,133 --> 01:46:37,372
Speaker 2: and nobody said a thing. But it was this one

2018
01:46:37,412 --> 01:46:39,772
Speaker 2: person from the committee that turned up and said that's

2019
01:46:39,812 --> 01:46:43,052
Speaker 2: against the rules and if you don't take away the furniture,

2020
01:46:43,093 --> 01:46:46,012
Speaker 2: you're gonna get fined, instead of perhaps having a conversation

2021
01:46:46,133 --> 01:46:49,412
Speaker 2: to say and looking at the wider issue of it.

2022
01:46:49,452 --> 01:46:51,213
Speaker 2: Is this good for Blackpool? Is this good for you

2023
01:46:51,253 --> 01:46:53,572
Speaker 2: as a hospital? Is there any issues? Is there any

2024
01:46:53,652 --> 01:46:56,372
Speaker 2: anti social behavior? No, we're just going to take it

2025
01:46:56,412 --> 01:46:58,412
Speaker 2: and carry on. This is working well for everybody.

2026
01:47:00,652 --> 01:47:04,293
Speaker 19: You can't you can't do that because you then you

2027
01:47:04,412 --> 01:47:06,973
Speaker 19: then put the counsel in the position where they have

2028
01:47:07,093 --> 01:47:10,572
Speaker 19: to look at every single every single place, what they

2029
01:47:10,772 --> 01:47:12,892
Speaker 19: what the what the people have got to do. If

2030
01:47:12,933 --> 01:47:15,253
Speaker 19: they've got away with it in which they had for years,

2031
01:47:15,492 --> 01:47:20,013
Speaker 19: they've actually got to take responsibility, go back and redraft

2032
01:47:20,053 --> 01:47:23,293
Speaker 19: the last year and get it done that way. Most

2033
01:47:23,372 --> 01:47:27,572
Speaker 19: most last thing authorities are actually quite good, and you

2034
01:47:27,732 --> 01:47:30,052
Speaker 19: just don't want to be going to court to try

2035
01:47:30,253 --> 01:47:34,333
Speaker 19: and push a case. But if there has been no no,

2036
01:47:34,812 --> 01:47:38,412
Speaker 19: uh no problems, there shouldn't be a problem extending the

2037
01:47:38,492 --> 01:47:42,213
Speaker 19: lastest scenario. But just remember if I had a place

2038
01:47:42,293 --> 01:47:44,612
Speaker 19: next to a pub and they decided to extend it

2039
01:47:44,652 --> 01:47:47,573
Speaker 19: out the back and around the corner so it surrounded

2040
01:47:47,572 --> 01:47:50,572
Speaker 19: my house because it was good for tourism. It's not

2041
01:47:50,612 --> 01:47:52,133
Speaker 19: going to be good for me. So the rules are

2042
01:47:52,133 --> 01:47:52,852
Speaker 19: there for a reason.

2043
01:47:53,612 --> 01:47:56,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I can understand. Yeah, I can understand rules

2044
01:47:56,372 --> 01:47:58,732
Speaker 2: and rules. But just quickly to your point Ellen about

2045
01:47:58,772 --> 01:48:02,892
Speaker 2: sometimes you know that the liquor licensing committees can take

2046
01:48:02,933 --> 01:48:06,372
Speaker 2: a moral stance because they feel it's their remit to

2047
01:48:06,692 --> 01:48:09,253
Speaker 2: discourage drinking. That's what worry about it. And I don't

2048
01:48:09,253 --> 01:48:11,852
Speaker 2: know if that was the case in this instance. Perhaps

2049
01:48:11,893 --> 01:48:15,013
Speaker 2: it was just abiding by the rules and trying to

2050
01:48:15,053 --> 01:48:17,892
Speaker 2: get the proper processes in place. But I hear it

2051
01:48:17,973 --> 01:48:20,652
Speaker 2: more and more often that a lot of these decisions

2052
01:48:20,652 --> 01:48:23,253
Speaker 2: seem to come down and a big reason for those

2053
01:48:23,293 --> 01:48:27,412
Speaker 2: decisions is that they don't want people to consume alcohol,

2054
01:48:27,772 --> 01:48:29,772
Speaker 2: which is the whole you know, one of the big

2055
01:48:29,772 --> 01:48:31,692
Speaker 2: parts of running a pub is that people should be

2056
01:48:31,732 --> 01:48:33,652
Speaker 2: able to enjoy a quiet beer out in the sun.

2057
01:48:35,213 --> 01:48:37,333
Speaker 19: I will tell you that there is a there has

2058
01:48:37,412 --> 01:48:40,052
Speaker 19: been a move for a number of years for counsels

2059
01:48:40,093 --> 01:48:43,852
Speaker 19: to restrict the number of licenses and to restrict the

2060
01:48:43,933 --> 01:48:46,933
Speaker 19: number of people. And they've done this. They've done the

2061
01:48:47,013 --> 01:48:51,492
Speaker 19: culling by prosecuting and taking away the licenses of people.

2062
01:48:51,652 --> 01:48:55,372
Speaker 19: If you haven't abided, now, if you say abide, it

2063
01:48:55,732 --> 01:49:00,133
Speaker 19: you know, if you've served underage people and you've done

2064
01:49:00,173 --> 01:49:03,732
Speaker 19: it three times, you'll basically be in line to lose

2065
01:49:03,772 --> 01:49:06,692
Speaker 19: your license at the next renewal. They'll basically say you're

2066
01:49:06,692 --> 01:49:11,452
Speaker 19: not a proper person. However, I agree with you. I

2067
01:49:11,532 --> 01:49:14,173
Speaker 19: think that the councils have got to work with them

2068
01:49:14,452 --> 01:49:17,972
Speaker 19: because they may not know about all of their all

2069
01:49:18,013 --> 01:49:19,213
Speaker 19: of their rights and.

2070
01:49:20,812 --> 01:49:21,492
Speaker 13: Other things.

2071
01:49:21,812 --> 01:49:24,572
Speaker 19: Because at the end of the day, these places pay rates,

2072
01:49:24,893 --> 01:49:28,253
Speaker 19: and rates pay pay wages for counsels, so you know,

2073
01:49:28,452 --> 01:49:30,333
Speaker 19: end of the day, you know, I'd like to think

2074
01:49:30,372 --> 01:49:33,812
Speaker 19: that maybe counsels can be proactive, but they can't break

2075
01:49:33,853 --> 01:49:37,133
Speaker 19: the law. Once they discover something, they have to say no,

2076
01:49:37,293 --> 01:49:37,933
Speaker 19: that can't have it.

2077
01:49:38,093 --> 01:49:43,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough, Yeah, yeah, nod. And good to get

2078
01:49:43,492 --> 01:49:46,892
Speaker 2: your expertise because you've got some dealings with the liquor

2079
01:49:46,973 --> 01:49:49,173
Speaker 2: Licensing Committee. So thank you very much for giving us

2080
01:49:49,173 --> 01:49:50,612
Speaker 2: a call. What do you reckon I one hundred and

2081
01:49:50,652 --> 01:49:52,972
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty Do you agree with Alan that rules

2082
01:49:53,013 --> 01:49:55,612
Speaker 2: need to be met and it could put the council

2083
01:49:55,692 --> 01:49:58,213
Speaker 2: in a tricky position if it is against the law.

2084
01:49:58,412 --> 01:50:01,213
Speaker 2: And if you have ever come up against the liquor

2085
01:50:01,293 --> 01:50:04,293
Speaker 2: Licensing Committee where you operate, whether you're a hospital worker.

2086
01:50:04,933 --> 01:50:08,612
Speaker 2: Are the rules too strict? Is there a need for

2087
01:50:08,652 --> 01:50:11,333
Speaker 2: more flexibility? And do you think sometimes there is a

2088
01:50:11,333 --> 01:50:13,213
Speaker 2: bit of a moral stance when it comes to how

2089
01:50:13,213 --> 01:50:16,772
Speaker 2: the councils view establishments that serve alcohol. Oh eight, one

2090
01:50:16,812 --> 01:50:18,532
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

2091
01:50:18,612 --> 01:50:21,173
Speaker 2: Nine two ninety two is the text. I'll get to

2092
01:50:21,213 --> 01:50:23,932
Speaker 2: a few of those very shortly. It is nine minutes

2093
01:50:23,973 --> 01:50:24,253
Speaker 2: to four.

2094
01:50:24,893 --> 01:50:28,412
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

2095
01:50:28,652 --> 01:50:29,612
Speaker 1: everything in between.

2096
01:50:29,812 --> 01:50:33,173
Speaker 3: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talk z EDB.

2097
01:50:34,293 --> 01:50:37,372
Speaker 2: News talks ZB. It is seven minutes to four. So

2098
01:50:37,412 --> 01:50:40,932
Speaker 2: we're talking about the pub in Blackpool on the West coast.

2099
01:50:40,933 --> 01:50:43,892
Speaker 2: They've been forced to remove all of their outside tables,

2100
01:50:43,893 --> 01:50:47,092
Speaker 2: will face a twenty thousand dollars fine after the Graymouth

2101
01:50:47,412 --> 01:50:51,933
Speaker 2: District Licensing Committee turned up and said that was against

2102
01:50:51,973 --> 01:50:54,253
Speaker 2: the rules. So plenty of texts coming through on nine

2103
01:50:54,333 --> 01:50:57,532
Speaker 2: to nine to two. Hi, Tyler, we were in black

2104
01:50:57,572 --> 01:51:00,412
Speaker 2: Ball last week. It's an amazing drive through Native Bush

2105
01:51:00,532 --> 01:51:03,253
Speaker 2: up through the Gray River Valley Valley. There were a

2106
01:51:03,293 --> 01:51:06,612
Speaker 2: lot of overseas visitors there, but we all ate at

2107
01:51:06,612 --> 01:51:09,812
Speaker 2: the wonderful cafe the public locked shut, even though they

2108
01:51:09,812 --> 01:51:13,012
Speaker 2: had a lovely deck empty of seating. Such a shame.

2109
01:51:13,133 --> 01:51:16,612
Speaker 2: A wonderful place to visit, this one, says GeTe Tyler.

2110
01:51:16,652 --> 01:51:19,173
Speaker 2: They move the tables inside because it rains all the

2111
01:51:19,213 --> 01:51:22,452
Speaker 2: time in Westport, slightly out of Westport. But I get

2112
01:51:22,452 --> 01:51:26,333
Speaker 2: your meaning this one, Getta Tyler. Sports clubs rely on

2113
01:51:26,452 --> 01:51:29,293
Speaker 2: social events. When you have a special tournament, you can't

2114
01:51:29,333 --> 01:51:32,452
Speaker 2: sit on the grass off the licensed wooden deck area.

2115
01:51:32,532 --> 01:51:36,293
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous that sports clubs can't have an exemption for

2116
01:51:36,372 --> 01:51:39,372
Speaker 2: these types of days. A special license is a lot

2117
01:51:39,412 --> 01:51:44,173
Speaker 2: of paperwork and expense, and a few more coming through.

2118
01:51:45,053 --> 01:51:47,333
Speaker 2: They should call their bluff the council's bluff. If they

2119
01:51:47,372 --> 01:51:50,532
Speaker 2: pursue you to court them, remove the seats a day

2120
01:51:50,612 --> 01:51:53,253
Speaker 2: or so before, then pop them back after the court date.

2121
01:51:53,293 --> 01:51:55,772
Speaker 2: Do it again if you have to. Best of luck.

2122
01:51:55,933 --> 01:51:59,132
Speaker 2: The liquor Licensing actors government and liquor licenses are granted

2123
01:51:59,173 --> 01:52:02,612
Speaker 2: independent of councils. Good to clarify that this one. Who

2124
01:52:02,652 --> 01:52:05,652
Speaker 2: the hell came up with that? Let them be. The

2125
01:52:05,732 --> 01:52:09,733
Speaker 2: tables are a part of the pub atmosphere, great for families.

2126
01:52:09,772 --> 01:52:12,852
Speaker 2: A bit of common sense should apply here and this

2127
01:52:12,933 --> 01:52:15,053
Speaker 2: one as well a cafe and Ashburden had a couple

2128
01:52:15,133 --> 01:52:18,492
Speaker 2: of seats on footpaths for ages. Then it was a hazard,

2129
01:52:18,893 --> 01:52:21,092
Speaker 2: but if you paid I think it was two thousand

2130
01:52:21,133 --> 01:52:23,452
Speaker 2: and a year, they could stay there. So thank you

2131
01:52:23,652 --> 01:52:26,053
Speaker 2: very much for all those texts and thank you for

2132
01:52:26,133 --> 01:52:29,692
Speaker 2: your calls. There'll be more on that story with Heather

2133
01:52:29,812 --> 01:52:33,933
Speaker 2: coming up after four o'clock. And also the COVID Inquirer

2134
01:52:34,253 --> 01:52:37,492
Speaker 2: report is out and it's fair to say it is

2135
01:52:37,532 --> 01:52:41,572
Speaker 2: pretty damning for Chrishpkins and other labor ministers at the time.

2136
01:52:41,612 --> 01:52:45,012
Speaker 2: So Heather, we'll have Chris Hipkins live on her show

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