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Speaker 1: On the huddle with me this evening, we have David

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Speaker 1: FARAKIWI Blog, and Curie Opolster and Stewart Ash, Robert Walter's

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Speaker 1: former Labor Party minister. Hell are you too?

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Speaker 2: Hello?

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Speaker 3: David? How are you?

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Speaker 1: How did we did we know that you could do this?

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Speaker 4: You?

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Speaker 3: You know, I wish this guy's had the same name

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Speaker 3: as his brother. His brother's name is Nobby Clark, because

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Speaker 3: what a bloody knob. I mean, how can you be

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Speaker 3: passionate about one area, stand for another and expect people

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Speaker 3: to vote for you. Sorry, there's a truth, David, but

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Speaker 3: this guy's taking the purse and I hope Jobes acknowledge it,

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Speaker 3: and I hope he gets last. You can't go and

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Speaker 3: say you're passion about one and run for the mirror

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Speaker 3: of another district.

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Speaker 2: Goodness me, David, Well the whole sin also with the

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Speaker 2: two names, rawis the swabby nation? I'm like, did he

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Speaker 2: just hope no one would notice that's the same person

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Speaker 2: after the election? Anything to imagine where someone might stand

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Speaker 2: for the mayority of two neighboring districts, But you know

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Speaker 2: they're both in the South Island. I guess, really, did

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Speaker 2: you know?

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Speaker 1: Did you know David, that there's another person doing it,

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Speaker 1: Peter Wakeman, who's running for me in CHRISTI gener also

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Speaker 1: in Auckland.

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Speaker 2: No is he though one of the notically serious candidates? Yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: I mean said that timber Cargol, Tim shed Bolt was

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Speaker 2: the outsider and he got on bought was it twenty

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Speaker 2: two terms or something?

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Speaker 3: Well, look that this guy, mister Clark whatever we call him,

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Speaker 3: Andrew he said, I'm not too sure. I mean he's

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Speaker 3: got on hither deep c Allen right, he's got on

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Speaker 3: drive drive when his pr PR campaign has going brilliantly

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Speaker 3: so far.

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Speaker 1: Now, listen to you. If we're funding trash TV instead

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Speaker 1: of netball, doesn't that tell you we need a complete

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Speaker 1: shakeup of how we fund tally.

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Speaker 3: You know, TV and Z is losing what fifty million dollars?

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Speaker 3: Just give it up, fellas. I'm sure the government's got

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Speaker 3: better things to spend this money on it. When I

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Speaker 3: read this TV and Z funding reality TV.

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Speaker 1: It's New Zealand on air, it's New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: On a well, New Zealand. They're funding reality TV? Really,

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Speaker 3: what about? You know, I don't mind documentaries that find

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Speaker 3: it hard to raise money in the sort of camera,

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Speaker 3: but reality TV give me a break.

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Speaker 1: I can't give money. I can't be okay with this

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Speaker 1: David and I. In fact, I don't even want to

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Speaker 1: fund what Stu said, which is documentaries that can't raise money.

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Speaker 1: I reckon, we should be checking our money at things

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Speaker 1: that we think are going to be commercially successful, don't we.

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Speaker 2: Well, most of all, what New Zealand On is meant

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Speaker 2: to be is for things that were distinctive New Zealand

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Speaker 2: culture which had no chance of being seen there. But

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Speaker 2: they've lost their way. They now fund They're really just

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Speaker 2: a sub steen now for the local industry rather than

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Speaker 2: what they're meant to be. They're look reality TV. I

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Speaker 2: remember Survivor, right, you don't actually care if it's New

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Speaker 2: Zealanders On Survivor Americans. You watch for the drama. It

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Speaker 2: doesn't Having some Kiwis on there doesn't make it a

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Speaker 2: Kiwi culture show. So no, they should not be funding

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Speaker 2: reality TV. They should not be funding half of what

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Speaker 2: they fund. You know, there's a case for news, current affairs, documentary,

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Speaker 2: things that reflect our unique heritage, some to the MARII

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Speaker 2: programming that's set for. But yeah, doesn't just rubbish.

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Speaker 1: Also, I mean is other days stew where where we

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Speaker 1: fund things for the small screen actually over, because if

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Speaker 1: you want to see a New Zealand accent, new Zealand

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Speaker 1: on your Facebook. And there are heaps of comedians putting

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Speaker 1: reels out for free on Facebook, right, so I don't

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Speaker 3: I'd love to know how many of your listeners actually

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Speaker 3: last time they watched TV and said that you might

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Speaker 3: watch the news every now and again, and maybe country

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Speaker 3: calendar or something along those lines. But the bottom line

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Speaker 3: So they're flogging a dead horse.

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Speaker 1: Have you watched Mobland?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: Oh, you need to watch mob Bland. Have you watched Mobland, David, No,

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Speaker 1: not yet. Oh, you guys are going to change your evenings.

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Speaker 2: Go on Prime.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's the cheapest one. It's about twelve ninety

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Speaker 1: nine a month and you'll enjoy it very much. Anyway, listen,

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Speaker 1: let's take a break, come back and just to teck

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Speaker 1: it right, we're back of the huddle. David Farrer and

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Speaker 1: Stuart Nash. Now, now, David, I have been perplexed in

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Speaker 1: the last three while as to why we're not reporting

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Speaker 1: and talking a lot more about what's going on with kids,

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Speaker 1: because in the last eight weeks had a kid in

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Speaker 1: with injuries and it's hardly actually been reported apart from

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Speaker 1: the bin in the suitcase. Turns out it's because we

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Speaker 1: can't actually talk about it because of suppression rules. Do

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Speaker 1: we not need to change these rules so that we

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Speaker 2: I do think they need to be relaxed, somewhat absolutely raw.

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Speaker 2: You have to protect your fear, trial, etc. This is

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Speaker 2: I mean as an epidemic. And you know, I remember

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Speaker 2: being told that, you know, once we'd bang parents from

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Speaker 2: smacking their kids on the hand, this would turn around

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Speaker 2: our terrible child's abuse stats. And they've only got worse.

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Speaker 3: And there are.

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Speaker 2: Factors in these cases which are known, but we can't

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Speaker 2: talk about them because, as you say, it gets oppressed

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Speaker 2: and you know, two two and a half years later,

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Speaker 2: when yet the coroner's report or the trial is over,

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Speaker 2: you can, but you've lost their emotional connection. To get

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Speaker 2: people to be blunt angry enough to demand change.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. What do you think to you?

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Speaker 3: You know what I really like to see here there

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Speaker 3: is our community leaders about various diverse communities up and

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Speaker 3: down the country stand up and start condemning this. I

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Speaker 3: don't think it should be up to you know, New

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Speaker 3: people aware of this. It does need to be people

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Speaker 3: in our community standing up and going you know what,

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Speaker 3: people knew this was happening, but they did not speak up.

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Speaker 3: And people have been have got to be given the right,

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Speaker 3: the mandate, whatever it is, the power to say, hey,

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Speaker 3: this just isn't right, but it's not good enough for

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Speaker 1: The point that you're making is, and this is a

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Speaker 1: good points to you, is that if a kid is

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Speaker 1: getting bashed, people generally know that kid is getting bashed. Right,

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Speaker 1: whether they're the neighbors or the wider family or the community,

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Speaker 3: You know your listeners will remember the car WHOI Twins,

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Speaker 3: a very famous case. No one went down for that

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Speaker 3: two twins were murdered. You can't tell me that people

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Speaker 3: didn't know that was going on, but no one spoke up.

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Speaker 3: In fact, worse, they protected someone who murdered two kids.

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Speaker 1: They know who did it, well they know, of course,

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Speaker 3: People know who did it, but they protected And that

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Speaker 3: is outrageous. And this is happening far too often in

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Speaker 3: our communities, and like you say, we should be a

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Speaker 3: can't be reported on. I buy into David's argument. You know,

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Speaker 3: we've got a there's something about a fair trial and

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Speaker 3: the process, But it doesn't mean we shouldn't be having

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Speaker 3: this conversation in a way which is a lot more

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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. Hey David, how do you feel about AI

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Speaker 1: marking the exams? Good move?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I think that's absolutely fine. Not a only

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Speaker 2: will is already going through court discovery documents, etc. Summarizing them.

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Speaker 2: You still want a human to review stuff, But there's

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Speaker 2: absolutely nothing wrong with having ALI scan through hundreds of

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Speaker 2: us a draft. Yeah, school, and you just need to

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Speaker 3: There, I don't agree with that, David. I think Ai

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Speaker 3: should be making everything. Humans are the ones that create

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Speaker 3: the ears. AI will give you, kid Ai. AI will

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Speaker 3: give you consistency from kaiti down to bluff. And I

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Speaker 3: think this is fantastic. In fact, Ali is doing this

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Speaker 3: sort of stuff at the moment. By the time that

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Speaker 3: the Minister rolls this out, AI will be smarter than

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Speaker 3: any human. In fact, this is brilliant. And if I

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Speaker 3: that's going to save me a whole lit.

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Speaker 1: I was worried. I was worried to you that everybody

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Speaker 1: would freak out because because Ai AI feels to me

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Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? And they don't understand it.

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Speaker 1: But I'm heartened by the fact that you're all in

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Speaker 3: Oh, this is brilliant. Like I said, every teacher should

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Speaker 3: be going, Thank God, there's five hours out of my

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Speaker 3: week taking because Ali is going to market. But it's

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Speaker 3: going to be consistent. It doesn't matter if you're a

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Speaker 3: It is going to deliver consistency and that's what parents want.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. David, did you get into the smeag thing? Did

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Speaker 1: you get the stickers?

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Speaker 2: No countdown or Woolworth persons? So I haven't been there,

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Speaker 2: but I have suffered the happens with all the supermarkets.

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Speaker 2: Finally enough stickers and they've got like the least popular

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Speaker 2: items still available, but none of the stuff you really want.

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Speaker 2: And again, you think it would have been enough of

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Speaker 2: these competitions that they can work out to plant demand.

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Speaker 1: What do you I mean? I'm starting to think, actually, Stu,

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Speaker 1: maybe they're doing it deliberately for the attention.

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Speaker 3: Well, okay, like like someone else at the beginning of

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Speaker 3: your show here that this has now got zi B

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Speaker 3: have you the most popular show on radio? It's got

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Speaker 3: it's got here. So you've just given these guys a

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Speaker 3: hold on fore you.

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Speaker 1: You're lining yourself up a fight with Hosking.

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Speaker 4: If you carry on like this talk about I would

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Speaker 4: much rather they cut the stickers and drop the price

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Speaker 4: of butter. Listen to you, Nichola Willis, Hey, thank you

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Speaker 4: very much, guys really appreciated.

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