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Speaker 1: Gavin Gray is a UK correspondent. Gavin good evening, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show. Hi there, great to have you on.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about this concern from the British government. This

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Speaker 1: is about a bunch of British Jihades who could be

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Speaker 1: freed from Syrian prisons and potentially return home.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they're looking at here, Ryan. So at

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Speaker 2: the moment, the group is holding roughly ten thousand fighters

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Speaker 2: in twenty six detention facilities across Syria. Also almost forty

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Speaker 2: six thousand people linked to Islamic State, most of them

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Speaker 2: women and children, at a couple of camps held by

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Speaker 2: the Kurdish led militia alliance supported by the United States

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Speaker 2: called the Syrian Democratic Forces. So, at the moment, the

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Speaker 2: new operators out of the capital of Syria, Damascus. They

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Speaker 2: are not in charge of this area in northeastern Syria,

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Speaker 2: but it's potentially possible that they may want to become.

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Speaker 2: And then the question is what would happen to all

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Speaker 2: those people in detention. There are said to be dozens

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Speaker 2: of British jihabes, so people who have left the UK

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Speaker 2: went to fight for Islamic State group and were then captured.

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Speaker 2: There are potentially dozens of those in these camps in

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Speaker 2: northeastern Syria, and the theories, of course, as the security situation

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Speaker 2: changes so much in Syria that they may simply be

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Speaker 2: allowed out and then will they try to get back

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Speaker 2: to the UK or do the UK harm And of

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Speaker 2: course we're not on here. There are fighters from other

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Speaker 2: countries as well, so that's a major question. And as well,

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Speaker 2: as we've been reporting now there's been a pause to

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Speaker 2: granting asylum for Syrian asylum seekers. Those from Syria represent

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Speaker 2: the third largest group of people crossing the Channel on

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Speaker 2: small boats, coming into the UK legally and then trying

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Speaker 2: to claim asylum. So it is going to be something

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Speaker 2: that the government here watching very very closely for security reasons.

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Speaker 2: But also you know, so much is moving so quickly

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Speaker 2: in Syria.

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Speaker 1: Interesting because I know that Austrian Germany are doing the

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Speaker 1: same with the paws on the asylum seekers, so the

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Speaker 1: UK is doing that as well. Interesting that Chancellor Rachel

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Speaker 1: Raves is making government departments save how much percent of

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Speaker 1: what percent of their budgets?

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Speaker 2: Five yeah, five percent, which many are saying is not enough,

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Speaker 2: and the departments are all saying, oh, I don't know

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Speaker 2: how we're going to manage this Ryan. It's not the

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Speaker 2: first time a government to say we're getting tough with

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Speaker 2: expenditure and we need to crack down. Will it work well,

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Speaker 2: I suppose time will tell. But it came on a

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Speaker 2: day that it was also revealed that one department had

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Speaker 2: bought two folders for wait for it, two and a

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Speaker 2: half thousand New Zealand dollars. They were six hundred pounds each.

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Speaker 2: They are luxury leather goods manufactured and they are extremely valuable.

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Speaker 2: But do we really need ministers to walk around with

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Speaker 2: folders that are that much money each? Ironically, there are

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Speaker 2: leather bound document holders available in the House of Commons

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Speaker 2: shop for just sixty five New Zealand dollars. So just

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Speaker 2: as the day the government's announcing this crackdown on waste,

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Speaker 2: then we get news that they're spending this amount of

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Speaker 2: money on these things. The firm that makes them is

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Speaker 2: of course a luxury firm. It's very well respected. It

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Speaker 2: also makes those famous ministeri or red boxes for the

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Speaker 2: for ministers, and also supplies the royal family. But at

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Speaker 2: a time when the government is trying to cut expenditure,

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Speaker 2: it does seem.

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Speaker 1: Bizarre do we know what was going to go in

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Speaker 1: the followers.

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Speaker 2: Probably just a few bits of paper. I mean they

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Speaker 2: are they're not very chunky, they're quite you know, they're

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Speaker 2: not meant to take large quantities of paper.

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Speaker 1: It's outrageous. Scientists are hoping they can learn how to

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Speaker 1: fix loose dinchers with the help of an octopus. Gevin.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so if you have dentures then you will know.

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Speaker 2: One of the big problems is actually getting them to

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Speaker 2: stay in the same place. Believe it or not, I

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Speaker 2: read a figure that really shocked me. About one in

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Speaker 2: five adults in the UK have either a denture or

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Speaker 2: partial dentures where they're missing teeth. So this is quite

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Speaker 2: a big thing. And of course the problem with the

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Speaker 2: dentires is they don stay in the same place. Because

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Speaker 2: the mouth is moist, it's moving around. It's difficult to adhere.

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Speaker 2: So a scientist from King's College, London started to look

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Speaker 2: for natural solutions. First of all, he got some peach

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Speaker 2: skin stuck to the upper part of his palate and

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Speaker 2: he thought, h now, what makes that stick despite my

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Speaker 2: moist mouth. The answer was small hairs, which you can't

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Speaker 2: really do with a denture. He then looked at geckos. Geckos,

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Speaker 2: how do they stick to glass on their feet? Well,

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Speaker 2: they use electrostatic forces, so that wasn't a winner. And

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Speaker 2: then he came upon octopus. Of course, how to OCTOPI

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Speaker 2: I think the plural is how do octopy suckers work

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Speaker 2: in strong tides underwater? And the answer is they had

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Speaker 2: this sort of vessel, a central vessel in their body,

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Speaker 2: and as they press down on a rock, so a

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Speaker 2: little bit of that central vessel decreases, and that means

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Speaker 2: you get capillary action, which miscapillary forces, which means things

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Speaker 2: stick to it. So he's now looking at the prospect

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Speaker 2: potentially a small sort of air filled domes that compress

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Speaker 2: when you press them on the gums. It doesn't sound

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Speaker 2: terribly high tech, but he's convinced this is going to work,

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Speaker 2: and already lots of money going in his direction to

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Speaker 2: see if it will work, to try and sort this

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Speaker 2: problem out once and for all goodness me.

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Speaker 1: It's an unusual place to find inspiration, but I suppose

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Speaker 1: if it works, it works, and the proof will be

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Speaker 1: in the pudding, won't it. The last thing you would

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Speaker 1: want would be like teeth that are like an octopus

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Speaker 1: coming out of your mouth's like a picture when you

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Speaker 1: were talking, Kevin. Thank you very much, Kevin Gray UK.

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