1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,920 Speaker 1: A new study is having to highlight just how hard 2 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: it is to kick kimbling. The researchers from the aut 3 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: shows a quarter of risky gamblers who try and cut 4 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: back on their habit end up relapsing, and three out 5 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: of four of those affected by our loved ones gambling 6 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: end up taking financial losses as a result. Someone who 7 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: knows all about this is Bridget thorn Lee, who's from 8 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 1: the Problem Gambling Foundation and joins me, Now, how Bridget, so, 9 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: how lovely? So how hard is it to kick a 10 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: gambling habit? 11 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: Well, it can be hard, but also with a bit 12 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: of supporter it can be quite simple as well. We 13 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: have a great tool around self exclusion which which is 14 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: part of the Gambling Act in New Zealand, which it 15 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 2: does allow people to ban themselves from venues that sort 16 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: of thing, and that can be great for people in it. 17 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: And yeah, so it's about putting some concrete plans in 18 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: place for people so that they can, you know, quickly 19 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: make a change in their life. 20 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: Has it come harder and harder to kick a gambling 21 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: habit because the gambling's come into your homes. We've seen 22 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 1: riss in online sports betting and casual betting sites around 23 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 1: the place, like Polymarket. You don't have to go into 24 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: a tab or a casino. You can sit at home 25 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: and waste your money just like that. Is this making 26 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: gambling a bigger problem these days? 27 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 2: I think so, and a younger problem. We're seeing more 28 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: and more young people presenting to our service seeking help. 29 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: It's great that they come in early. Yeah, So in 30 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: the past, you know, it might have been older people 31 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: that might have been gambling for ten or fifteen years 32 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: before they come and see us. So now we're seeing 33 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 2: them a bit earlier, but they're definitely been introduced to gambling. 34 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: Very young people on even children's apps for games are 35 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: getting introduced to gambling, and it's being normalized in a 36 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: way that people, you know, think gambling is just part 37 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: of the fun. Yeah, so we are seeing an increase 38 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: in online gambling. 39 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: Can you say this, bridget None of this is news 40 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: to me. We've been saying this for years and we 41 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: always talk about the problem, but we never solve the problem. 42 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: So what are we doing wrong? 43 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: I think we are solving some of the problem, but 44 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: we need more regulation. These products aren't, you know, just 45 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: your ordinary product that you can go and have a 46 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: bit of fun on they're actually quite highly addictive things 47 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 2: like poking machines. You know, most people don't even go 48 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: near them. It's only about fifteen percent of the population 49 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 2: that would have a go on pokies, but of those 50 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: that play or gamble on them, it's fifty percent of 51 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: them experience harm. So they're really highly addictive products. And 52 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: as you said before, the ones that we're seeing online, 53 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: the marketing is quite predatory. You can you've probably seen 54 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: ads for you know, putting your money and now and 55 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: they'll double what you've put in that sort of thing. 56 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: So those incentivizations, we need to remove those that ability. 57 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: We need to remove gambling advertising from being in front 58 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 2: of our children and young people. 59 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: There's a lot of work to do. Get into it. 60 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Bridget thrown me from the Problem 61 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: Gambling Foundation. For more from earlier edition with Ryan Bridge, 62 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: listen live to News Talks it'd be from five am weekdays, 63 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.