1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: So let's talk more about the budget now. So it 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: will be your highest spending of any government in history. 3 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Borrowing is still high. Minister's going to have to make cuts. 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: We don't quite know. We're from Business Central CEO Simon 5 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: Arcis with me this morning. Simon, good morning, good morning. Right, 6 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: very well, now you're in Wellington. Where would you where 7 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: would you cut? Where's the fat? Look? 8 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 2: There isn't much fan and I think that's the type 9 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 2: wrote the government's walking. How do you how do you 10 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: balance some first all restraints, you know, keep not spending 11 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: with the reality of needing to boost the economy. It's 12 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: a really difficult question. And as you say, a lot 13 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: of the budgets big headline items are known, so I'm 14 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: not quite sure. Wellington certainly has had public sector cuts 15 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: of course, and suffered as a consequence of that. So 16 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: let's hope there's not too much more let space could 17 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 2: well be there. 18 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting. It's an interesting place for Wellington to be, 19 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: right because the rest of the country is going, ah, 20 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: just cut them, slash them, burn them, and you and 21 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: the businesses in Wellington are actually the ones that feel 22 00:00:59,320 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: that right. 23 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: Well, absolutely, what's really interesting about the direct government spending 24 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 2: into Wellington accounts for about twelve percent of the GDP 25 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: and while that doesn't sound like a huge amount, that's 26 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: before you've got all the extra professional services, support services. 27 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 2: Where a civil servant goes and buys a sandwich at once. 28 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 2: It's a big impact. And if you compared to the 29 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 2: rest of the country, that's only about four percent, So 30 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 2: it's a big It is a big chunk of our 31 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: economy and I think that's what's really made it tough 32 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 2: in recent times. 33 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: Infrastructure Simon. We're hearing about plans, we're hearing about cash. 34 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: Has anyone actually seen any money yet? 35 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: One of the things that is a concern is infrastructure 36 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 2: certainly is high on the agenda, but we need to 37 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: see that stuff starting. We need to see the green 38 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: throw button with a lot of that and that's a 39 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: big thing for Wellington. And of course the other thing 40 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: that is a little bit of a bright spot is 41 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: probably the film spend and credive industry spend that down 42 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: here will have an impact too. 43 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: Hey what a businesses think if if she was to 44 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: come out on Thursday Nichola Willison say, I want you 45 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: to increase your employee. Can we save a contribution. What 46 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: do you reckon businesses would say. 47 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: Well, I think I think this is really interesting in 48 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 2: a lot of a government. If you think about fiscal 49 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 2: restraint but wanting to boost the economy. If you think 50 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: about questions around key we saver, you say we business 51 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: largely would the trajectory, but the john individual businesses or 52 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: the impact on businesses as the as the days and 53 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: weeks go on has been really tough. I think I 54 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: think employer contribution to kV savers something we got to 55 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: look at, and we've got to look at how to 56 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: make sure that in the future people will be more 57 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: secure in their retirement and less dependent on the government. 58 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: Simon, appreciate your time this morning. Thank you very much. 59 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: Simon Arkis who is with us from Wellington Business Central CEO. 60 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, Listen live 61 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 2: to news talks he'd be from five am weekdays, or 62 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.