1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Andrew Zell and Guy have eld with us on this 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Monday morning. By the way, the Spanish have literally just 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 1: scored such one mill a couple of minutes into the 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: first half fellows, good morning, almost almost almost two nils. 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yeah, do you know Andrew, By the way, 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 1: what are the numbers for this this euros that you 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: guys are running a people watching it? What would you 8 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: get for you know, one of the bigger matches. 9 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: I'm I'm not one hundred percent short particular numbers, but 10 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: I know that England Games have rated the sots off 11 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: and that i'd say hundreds of thousands of viewers. 12 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: Right, so's it's it's it's been a success. Been a 13 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: couple English games then maybe not. 14 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, some other games might have done okay, but I 15 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: think in particular English games it's done well. 16 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: Bowden Barrett, Guy, So explain, explain, Explain to me why 17 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: given me so good? Why don't you put him on 18 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: for the whole game. 19 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 3: It's a it's a very good question. I think Peter 20 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 3: fitter Head play very well in Super Ruby, that he 21 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 3: probably deserved a crack first of all, and then played 22 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 3: very well. Oh, they just outscored and then played very 23 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 3: well in that first Test down and so I probably 24 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 3: deserved to crack again, but then voting Parrott came on 25 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 3: and need it and was very good. And then we 26 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 3: saw what he did on Saturday night that was arguably 27 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 3: the best off the bench performance, particularly that I've seen 28 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 3: from an All Black for ever some time. That he 29 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 3: changed the game. I don't he single handedly changed the game. 30 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 3: He was immense everywhere, attack, defense, tactically, he was just 31 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 3: brilliant and they needed a play like that because for 32 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 3: a while I felt like it looked like the All 33 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 3: Blacks are going to lose and last time. 34 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: I think that. I think the new coach has made 35 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: a determination early on that Damian McKenzie is the starting 36 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: ten and that Stephen Perrafeta until Will Jordan comes back 37 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: in a few weeks. He was there starting fifteen in 38 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: those in the in the two big English Test matches, 39 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: and Bowden Barret off the bench. He started his career 40 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: off the bench and was outstanding then. So I think 41 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: we'll see more of them off the bench unless there's 42 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: a change of thinking, say in some of those bigger 43 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: games against South Africa later in the year. 44 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 1: But a couple of weeks ago when we talked about this, 45 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: Andrew I said, isn't it good to start the season 46 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: with something a bit different? And how good were the poems? 47 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: They were fantastic, Mike on and off the field. They're 48 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: very very easy to deal with, very entertaining chaps. On 49 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 2: the field. I thought they played some outstanding test match 50 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: football that rush defense, suffocating defense. They played very well 51 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: at the breakdown. They stifled a lot of the All 52 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: Blacks attack. They slowed the game down to try to 53 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: try and play it at their own pace, which is 54 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 2: an issue I think still for World Rugby and for 55 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: referees and that some of these teams, like South Africa 56 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 2: and England. They had a number of injuries during both 57 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: test matches. It didn't appear to be serious, but it 58 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: slowed the pace of the game down if you get 59 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: away with it. Good on them, but I thought no. 60 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: I thought they played and added into that mic they're 61 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: now playing an attacking style of football at times too, 62 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: which they're now finding the younger players who can do 63 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 2: that for the All Blacks new coaching staff. But there 64 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 2: were a lot of experienced test match footballers in that 65 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 2: All Black team and in two matches and I think 66 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 2: there have to be concerns about how they played the game. Yes, 67 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: two wins, but a lot of errors from a lot 68 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: of experienced rugby players in that All Black team, the 69 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: All Blacks, and they also need to find some new, 70 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: bigger ball runners in their forwards. 71 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: Guy, I cannot, for the life of me get excited 72 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: about San Diego. They told me a couple of weeks 73 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: ago it was sold out, and that's fantastic, But you know, 74 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: Fiji in San Diego, who cares. 75 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 3: I was literally just my wife and I were literally 76 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 3: just talking about this just before. It's a very strange. 77 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 3: I know why they're doing it. Obviously, they're trying to 78 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 3: break into the American market, but Fiji, after you just said, 79 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 3: with all to respect, we know the result and you've 80 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: just had two outstanding tests against a very good English side, 81 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 3: and you'll almost take a backward step in terms of 82 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 3: the contest. Anyway, It's on at a good time Saturday 83 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 3: two thirty, so maybe that'll play into their hands a 84 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 3: little bit in terms of people watching it back here 85 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 3: and it's the All Blacks of people always watch. But yeah, 86 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: it does kind of feel like a little bit of 87 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 3: deflation out of the balloon, shall we say, in terms 88 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 3: of the contest particularly anyway, Yeah, exactly. 89 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: Spain almost scored again. It looks if you're following the game, 90 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: that Spain are going to win this doesn't I mean, 91 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: would you disagree with that, Andrew? I mean there are 92 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: a better side? 93 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I wouldn't disagree This year, the Spanish is 94 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 2: starting to open it up now. Yeah, they're looking very good, 95 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 2: very good. 96 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: It's going to be unfortunate for the British that is. 97 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: Having said all of that, can I ask you, Andrew, 98 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: hand on heart Lulu Son, has she ever come around 99 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: to your place for a cup of tea? Do you 100 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: know it personally or do we all just pretend all 101 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: of a sudden that she's a own home, good old 102 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: Kiwi that we've been egging on for years and years 103 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: and years. 104 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, some of some of the fervor around lu Lusan 105 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 2: did surprise me. I mentioned to Andrew Dickens, who filled 106 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: in for you last week, Mike, that she hasn't come 107 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: through the New Zealand tennis system, so I can't. It's 108 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 2: sort of it's a you need to put it into 109 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 2: context that she's not a product of the new Zealand 110 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 2: tennis system. She left when she was young. She was 111 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: in the Swiss system, European tennis and then the American 112 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 2: college system. But if she's decided to pin her future 113 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: to the New Zealand flag, then I'm sure she'll get 114 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 2: a lot of support. 115 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: Oh no, but the media coverage guy and you would 116 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: have seen this. All of a sudden, there was New 117 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: Zealand bracing as Lulu Son. You're supposed to know who 118 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: she is is now going through to the quarterfinals of 119 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: wimble and it was just all made up. 120 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 3: Well, she was born in New Zealand, so's she's more 121 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 3: Kiwi than a lot of quote New Zealand sports people 122 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 3: that we do have playing for New Zealands a lot 123 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 3: of the time. Across Mario Sports. There are some people 124 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 3: who have been in New Zealand, who have who played 125 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 3: for New Zealand but have never been to New Zealand. 126 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: By the way, are you too cognizant? And we don't 127 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: have time to discuss it at length, and we should 128 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: next week. There seems to be a growing disquiet among 129 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: among athletes as to how they are selected or not 130 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: selected for the Olympic Games. It's there's been appeals. There's 131 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: the guys that I forget what he is as the 132 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: kite surfer McCartney's partner. There's been some serious question marks 133 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: around sailing as to who got it, who didn't get it, 134 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: what the criteria was, why at least I mean, is 135 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: that a buzz in the sports world or is it 136 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: just me? 137 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: And I think there's a lot more options available to athletes, Mike. 138 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: They know more about this, this Jewish system of appeal, 139 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 2: and I think more are probably willing to use it 140 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 2: if they if they firmly believe they've got a case, 141 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 2: a strong enough case. So just the sign of the 142 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 2: sign of the times, I think. 143 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 3: I also think it's got something to do with the 144 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 3: selection policy. And Sammy Maxwell, the mountain biker, her situation 145 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 3: is slightly different and excuse me, very complex, But the 146 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 3: rest of them, I think, I think because partly of 147 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 3: the selection policy, which is, if the ends of oc 148 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 3: dozens deem that you are going to finish or a 149 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 3: likelhood of finishing in the top sixteen, then you shouldn't 150 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 3: go to the Olympics. And if you remember back to 151 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 3: before Tokyo Zoe Hobbs, who is now a good chance 152 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 3: of being in an Olympic one hundred meter final, which 153 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 3: for a New Zealand woman would be an incredible feat. 154 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 3: She didn't get picked to go to Tokyo. 155 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: It's stupid because of exactly that. 156 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 3: She qualified, but she didn't. 157 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: Get But you either go on time or you don't. 158 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: You know, if you can run the one hundred x time, 159 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: you're in. If you can't, you're out. Well if keeping 160 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: to agree and that whole, well, we don't think you 161 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: might make it. I mean, that's just asking for trouble. 162 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: Isn't it. 163 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 3: If you can qualify, then I think you should probably 164 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 3: get to go. 165 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: Sam, give me a read on the sale, GP, do 166 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: you have a feel for I cannot work out whether 167 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: anyone's interested in it or not. 168 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: Oh, I think the crowds around the world are pretty big. 169 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: I think. I think. I think TV audiences are reasonably 170 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: solid around the world. It's quite exciting when there's win. 171 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: The format is quite confusing. There's races here, races there. 172 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 2: The top two qualify, the top three qualify, the top 173 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 2: five qualifier, they go into a table and in another competition. 174 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 2: Then there's another competition on top of that. So I 175 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 2: think they probably need to just trim that down a 176 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: bit both. I think there's madam. 177 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 3: I think it's a bit bizarre that you play and 178 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 3: then you play, you sail an entire season, and then 179 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 3: the entire result of that whole season comes down to 180 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 3: the one and only race at the end that last about. 181 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: I think that's something to do with the money. Of course, 182 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: we've got to mention Scotty Mack. I happened to see 183 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,080 Speaker 1: Scotty Mack win yesterday. So he's on an oval, So 184 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: that was his first went on an oval, and and 185 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: he said he wasn't going to call himself an indie 186 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,719 Speaker 1: drive until he won on an oval. So that was good. 187 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: And he didn't quite do as well today, but nevertheless 188 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: he sees in the major Do you do you guys 189 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: a couple of a couple of viewing recommendations. Have either of 190 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: you seen Braun b R A W N on Disney 191 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 1: Keanu Reeves? No, must watch. It's you're gonna be a 192 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: bit of an F one nut like Keanu Reeves is. 193 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: But the story of Braun is fantastic. 194 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 2: Is that Ross Braun. 195 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: As in the guy who owned the team? Yes, I 196 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: think it is. Yeah, he was with Honda Honda pulled 197 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: the money, they got Virgin involved and they were the 198 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: team that sort of did amazing things on next Jensen 199 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: but Johnson Button exactly. So Jensen and Rubens Barrichello were 200 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: the two drivers at the time. Other one is Receivers. 201 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: You're watching Receivers. 202 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 2: I just started watching it. Actually, look it's very good, ye. 203 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: Armand Saint Brown. How cool is he? 204 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 3: Yeah? 205 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, amazing story. His father was two time Mister 206 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 2: Universe and he had a weight training from a young age. 207 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,719 Speaker 2: And I just some of the videoography in that, in 208 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 2: that quarterback series and now this receiver series. Mate, it's 209 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 2: just out of. 210 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: This world is incrediblely and what I've what I find 211 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: uplifting about it is it's, yes, it's about football, but 212 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: it's more importantly about the individuals and what it takes 213 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: to achieve and succeed and where they come from. And 214 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: there's there's that you see the family connections and the 215 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: dads and the mums who gave up everything and the 216 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: whole thing. It's just I think it's just fantastic. 217 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 2: And when you you look at some of those camera 218 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 2: angles and you realize that when you watch a normal, 219 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 2: say TV game of NFL, it looks hard, it looks fast, 220 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 2: but when the camera is a sideline and you realize 221 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 2: how fast the game is at that pace and how 222 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 2: brutal the game is, They're incredibly amazing. 223 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: The athletes are incredible, so there must watch their top recommendation. 224 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: It's nice to see you guys. Will catch up next Monday. 225 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: As always, I'm gonna have Elt. 226 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 3: Andrew zeb for more from The Mic Asking Breakfast. 227 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,239 Speaker 1: Listen live to news talks that'd be from six am weekdays, 228 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.