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Speaker 1: Murray Old's Australia correspondents. So that's hello, MS. Very good afternoon, Heather.

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Speaker 2: So how much is Elbow costing you people? Well, we're

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Speaker 2: not we're not, We're not sure, but it's going to

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Speaker 2: be an eye watering amount of money.

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Speaker 1: Good question.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's home after a much much better expected

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Speaker 2: meeting than even he would have hoped there for with

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump, there's the Rare Earth's deal to mine and

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Speaker 2: partially process these products here with US and Australian government support,

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Speaker 2: plus of course the private sectors involved.

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Speaker 1: And Trump gave very enthusiastic backing for the Orcus submarine

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Speaker 1: project and didn't bully Australia into boosting defense spending. He

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Speaker 1: also declared that Elbow was his besting, complete confidence in

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Speaker 1: Albanezi and in Australia. But very good question of yours.

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Speaker 1: At what cost? No idea year about yet about Rare Earths.

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Speaker 1: The deal itself eight and a half billion dollars, but

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Speaker 1: how much will taxpayers contribute? Plus news court.

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Speaker 2: Papers over here, Heather are reporting today that the Australian

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Speaker 2: Defense Department has been told to pay for ucas these

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Speaker 2: submarines are nearly four hundred billion dollars. To pay for these,

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Speaker 2: we have to cut maintenance on existing Australian Defense Force

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Speaker 2: things like aircraft, things like ships, delay projects, cut as

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Speaker 2: much as possible from the workforce budget, even cut the

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Speaker 2: flying hours of the Air Force.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's no surprise here. I mean all the

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Speaker 1: cash is being plowed into the submarine program, but still

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Speaker 1: on the books head that an Australian Defense Force. Mandarins

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Speaker 1: have got a dreadful track record. Here's the latest one.

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Speaker 1: The Navy's buying new frigates at the cost of six

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Speaker 1: billion dollars a ship. That's four times the cost of

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Speaker 1: an off the shelf identical boat out of America. But

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Speaker 1: each Australian ship it's got to have special Australian tweaks,

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Speaker 1: you know, they have to.

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Speaker 2: Have company of bunks or whatever. Nine billion dollars for

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Speaker 2: a frigate per boat. Now, this is the sort of

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Speaker 2: stuff that's extravaganst, the waste that people are howling about,

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Speaker 2: and it's only going to get worse.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now, I see Susan Lee has finally come to her

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Speaker 2: in senses and she doesn't want Kevin Rudd sacked.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean they fell on I mean look, Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump gave Kevin Run a backhander in the White House

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Speaker 2: beating all pretty funny. The opposition here fell on that

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Speaker 2: like a starving dog on a bone.

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Speaker 1: I swear to God.

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Speaker 2: Susan Lee couldn't oh howling howling for Rudd to resign,

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Speaker 2: to be sacked, But within twenty four hours she was

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Speaker 2: being publicly contradicted by another liberal woman, one who Lea

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Speaker 2: sacked herself. Put it down the back bench because this

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Speaker 2: woman backed Peter Dutton. And then another front bench has

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Speaker 2: come out trying to hose down the opposition criticism, saying

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Speaker 2: it would be ideal to have an ambassador who hasn't

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Speaker 2: previously attacked the president but appointedly that.

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Speaker 1: Person did not call for Rudd's removal.

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Speaker 2: Just another case of the opposition not knowing which day

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Speaker 2: of the week it is.

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Speaker 1: It's just dreadful.

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Speaker 2: Mars listener, how do you get buried with your pets?

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Speaker 2: Which one of you goes first and which one gets

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Speaker 2: put down to go with the other one? Well, look,

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Speaker 2: love my dog dearly, but I'm not sure the dog

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Speaker 2: would be capable of supervising my funeral and there hopping

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Speaker 2: in after me. It's got to be the other way

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Speaker 2: around and I didn't even know this was the thing.

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Speaker 2: It's apparently been in New South Wales for many, many years.

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Speaker 2: You can have your pet, obviously the pet will die first,

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Speaker 2: the pets interred.

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Speaker 1: In the plot you've bought, and then you hop in afterwards.

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Speaker 2: Right now, down to Victoria, there's a woman who's an

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Speaker 2: MP in the state Parliament with the Animal Justice Party

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Speaker 2: and she's been jumping up. Now it's outrageous. We haven't

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Speaker 2: got similar laws in Victoria. This woman, by the way,

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Speaker 2: he has got about twenty seven pets. She's got a donkey,

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Speaker 2: you know, sundry cats multiple months, she's got snakes and

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Speaker 2: birds and all sorts of twenty seven pets. This woman's gone,

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Speaker 2: so it's a buddy big grave when she shovels off.

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Speaker 2: But in any event, the new laws are going to

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Speaker 2: be passing Victoria. And if you run a cemetery, why

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Speaker 2: should the law say no. I mean, it's perfectly safe

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Speaker 2: and you know it's hygienic and all the rest of it. Apparently,

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand, the Funeral Directors Association says there's no

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Speaker 2: reference to pets in the relevant legislation, so it's generally

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Speaker 2: considered illegal.

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Speaker 1: But local government at that level they made aside to

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Speaker 1: exempt it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you got what, if you got a

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Speaker 2: little dashound or something, maybe it's a bit different with

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Speaker 2: I don't know, a bloody great.

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Speaker 1: Big Saint Bernard or something.

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Speaker 2: But if you're going to hop into the grave with

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Speaker 2: a little, you know, a sausage dog, who's going to

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Speaker 2: be upset with that?

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Speaker 1: No one? Really is a very good point that you make.

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Speaker 2: Must thank you, Marry Old's Australia correspondent. For more from

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