1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: Back to the government's turbo charging, the fast Track scheme, 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: new set of amendments to the Public Works Act will 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: speed up things in time and which land and all 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: those sort of things. Anyway, the Infrastructure Minister Chris Bishop 5 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 1: as weather is what's the what's the biggest issue as 6 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: far as you're concerned. Is it the dollars? In other words, 7 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: the incentives will move the deals faster, or is it 8 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: the courts and the councils. 9 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 2: So paying a bit more upfront will massively lower costs 10 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 2: in the long term. So we're offering a fifteen percent 11 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: incentive payment. If your government comes along and basically says, look, 12 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: we're going to build a road of natural significance here 13 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: or another piece of infrastructure listed in the Fast Track Act, 14 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 2: We're going to give you a fifteen percent incentive payment 15 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 2: and then a five percent recognition payment as well. That 16 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: will massively lower the cost of doing that infrastructure because 17 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 2: it means we've got the certainty that you can plan 18 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: the construction out, you can sequence it properly. 19 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 3: At the moment. There are a number of examples around 20 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 3: the country. 21 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: Just causes huge delays because of the length of time 22 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: it takes to acquire the land, and so it's just 23 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: another step we're taking to fast infrastructure projects. 24 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: How are you going to smooth it if I end 25 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: up dealing with the council, Well, how do you smooth 26 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: out their reaction? 27 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:04,559 Speaker 3: The council reaction? 28 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't get one reaction in one part 29 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: of the country and something completely different in another part. 30 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 3: Well, I think you can work through that. 31 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: I mean, ultimately, much of the projects we're talking about 32 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: here and Zealand Transport Agency projects. So this is central 33 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: government coming along and saying Lok, we're building a road 34 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: of national significance. Here, here's the route. We need your 35 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 2: land and lot. No one to likes taking land. We 36 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 2: don't do it with a great degree of passion. But 37 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: the reality is if we want to build stuff in 38 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: this country and get those roads going that we need 39 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 2: in public transport projects that we need, it will require 40 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: taking land. That's just the simple reality of it. 41 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: Okay, is the environment caught completely sidelined. They will not 42 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: be in use anymore because of this. In these type 43 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: of projects, the. 44 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 2: Environment court will be sidelined when it comes to the 45 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: critical infrastructure amendments that we're accelerating. 46 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 3: So there's two things going on here. 47 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: We're doing a whole review of the Public Works Act 48 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: and there's a whole other long bit of process there 49 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 2: that cross Pen's working his way through. That'll probably take 50 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: another couple of eighteen months too years, but we're accelerating 51 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: these amendments for the Roads of National Significance and public 52 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: infrastructure projects as part of fast track. We want to 53 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 2: get this done in the next six months that we 54 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: can get on and get some spades in the ground, 55 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 2: a SAP on these and very important projects. 56 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: Okay, fantastic. As regards to this Thursday and Friday, Are 57 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: you honestly telling me that the whole world is coming 58 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: to town to learn about the Linton Military camp, the 59 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: christ Church Prison, the way Tackley Court in the Northern Expressway. 60 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 2: No, they'll be coming to learn about the long term 61 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: pipeline of infrastructure projects that New Zealand has, the Roads 62 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: of National Significance and other public transport projects we've got, 63 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: and the health infrastructure pipeline, the school property pipeline that 64 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 2: we've got, and indeed the private sector developments that are 65 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 2: happening around the country as well. This is not just 66 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: about a short term you know, we're going to get 67 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,839 Speaker 2: into the market the next year or two and drop 68 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 2: some projects into the market. By the way, dropping four 69 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 2: PPPs into the market's actually quite a lot, all at 70 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: the same time or in the same period of time. 71 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 2: But this is about attracting interests for the medium to 72 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: long term. We want major players to set up here. 73 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 2: We want new construction companies, we want new global investment companies. 74 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: We want them here in New Zealand because our great 75 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: weakness as a country as we need more competition in 76 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 2: the construction market here and we need more private investment 77 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 2: and public investment in this country to lift our capital 78 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: intensity to go for growth. And that's what Thursday is 79 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: all about. 80 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 3: Good. 81 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with you more. It's just that these 82 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: these four projects that have floated to the surface really 83 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 1: don't film me. I mean, the Northern Expressway needs doing, 84 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 1: of course, but I just don't see a lot of 85 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: people in Dubai in London going my god, I cannot 86 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: wait to get my hands on the white Tackle record. 87 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: Well, there will be other things that you'll hear about 88 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: at the summit on Thursday. 89 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 3: Mic so' hear you're not going to hear. 90 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: How are they sexier than the White Tacker record. 91 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: I think you'll find them fairly attractive. But you just 92 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: have to wait and see for Thursday. But look, as 93 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: I say, this is about a long term pipeline of projects. 94 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: You know, there's going to be we're going to talk 95 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 2: about all the things we want to be doing over 96 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: the next ten to twenty years as a country. And 97 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: those things don't all happen straight away, right. You don't 98 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 2: have people turn up here and say, oh great, we're 99 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: going to get on with this nation shaping project next 100 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: year because the last guy spent six years farting around 101 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: not consenting anything. So you've got to start somewhere, and 102 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: we're getting on with it. 103 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: Okay. So speaking of the last guy farting around doing nothing, 104 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: hip can speak on Friday that that Vibey head of 105 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: cooperation and not just killing everything for the sake of it. 106 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: Did you take that on board or you think he's 107 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: full of it? 108 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 3: Well, let's wait and see. 109 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 2: I mean, the good news is that Labor are sending 110 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 2: representatives to the summit on Thursday Friday, which is good news. 111 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 2: I think they will play a constructive role. I think 112 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: everyone is pretty over the kind of you know, in 113 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: constant oscillation and the you know, the two and and frying. 114 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 2: When it comes to infrastructure projects, we do need a 115 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 2: long term pipeline. I'm working on that thirty year plan 116 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: in order to try and create that. I think it's 117 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: an everyone's interest that we do that. So look, we're 118 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: prepared to play our part. Labour's history in this area 119 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: is not great, to be honest, but we're prepared to 120 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 2: play our part and get on with it. 121 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: Okay, good, now can we address it long last? I'm 122 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: glad to have you on the show. Laundry Gate. Now, 123 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: what's happened there? 124 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 3: If this was my laundry at the what. 125 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: Was the Olympics? 126 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 3: Was it? 127 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: Because it was just the receipts we were reading the 128 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: other day and and no one launders like you. 129 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 3: Well, all I. 130 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: Can say is it was very hot, it was very sweaty, 131 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: and Paris is an extremely expensive city to be in. 132 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: Okay, so all legit spending didn't bring along friends and family, 133 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: and so you justified and it was all above board. 134 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 3: I literally I could even break it down for you. 135 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 2: I literally laundered four pairs of underpens and three T shirts. 136 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 3: That's about it. 137 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: We've got apparently we've got some Wellington receipts as well. 138 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:33,799 Speaker 1: You're doing laundry in the capitol. 139 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 3: No, definitely not no, not allowed to do laundry in Wellington. 140 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 3: I live in Wellington. You're not allowed to do I 141 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 3: was going to say that. 142 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: That's that's that's why so many eyebrows around here will being. 143 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no laundry in Wellington. I literally was 144 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: representing the government at the Olympics. Three T shirts and 145 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 2: four underpens done? 146 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: What do you what do you pay for four underpens 147 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: in Paris? 148 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 2: Well you can see from the receipts quite a lot, 149 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 2: particularly around Olympics time. 150 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 1: Good to talk to you appreciate it. 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