1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: The Rural Report on Heather. Do see Alan. 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 2: Drive with Jamie mckaye, host of the Country. 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 3: Hi Jamie, Hello Heather, and welcome back. 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 2: Thank you, Happy New Year to you, and thank you 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: for the beer is. 6 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: The beers arrived obviously, and it is a It's a 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: delicious brew, isn't it. 8 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, Well we every once a year we do 9 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 3: a Christmas co lab with the wonderful people at Emerson's 10 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 3: here in Denisan, and the bear is always a pilsner, 11 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 3: one of my favorite. 12 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: Do you change the recipe every year or is it 13 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: the same? 14 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 3: Well, I don't really have much to do with it, 15 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 3: even though it kind of Bear is my name. I 16 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 3: know the boys that or the teams the teams had 17 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 3: Emerson's the brewers, the brewers down there have a bit 18 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 3: of a play round, so they just mix it up. 19 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 3: Some years I like it better than other years, and 20 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 3: I think this one's a really good brew. But you know, 21 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 3: like a lot of these craft bear outfits, they do 22 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 3: have some fun with their brewis, and they certainly at 23 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 3: Emerson's have some fun with the names of the of 24 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 3: their bears. They had a He used to have a 25 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 3: bear called Gary, named after an old bloke who would 26 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 3: come in on his superannuation day and buy a whole 27 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 3: lot of beer and come back again two weeks time. 28 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 3: So they called a bear after Gary. 29 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: That's nice. I like that. 30 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 3: Hey. 31 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: Now, since we last chatted, we've obviously signed and announced 32 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: the FTA with India. 33 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 2: What's your thoughts on that? 34 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 3: Well, talking about super inuitance, I know one who's not 35 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 3: very happy about this at all, and you were talking 36 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 3: to him, to him or about him with Barry a 37 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 3: week bit earlier in the show. And so when he's 38 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 3: got he thinks we gives, we give too much to India, 39 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 3: especially on immigration, does not get a good enough return 40 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 3: for New Zealand. Especially dry Well a trade expert and 41 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 3: he's one of our top trade guys. Stephen Jacobe has 42 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 3: rubbished that he said New Zealand had a window. If 43 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 3: we didn't take it, the next opportunity could have been 44 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 3: years away and there was no guarantee of a better deal. 45 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 3: He reckons winstance whistling. I'd agree with him on that one, 46 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 3: and he thinks that Winston could have Winston says he 47 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 3: could have negotiated something better. Stephen Jacoby says, somehow I 48 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 3: doubt it. 49 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: Now. 50 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 3: Look, Heather, obviously this has been an advantageous, very advantageous 51 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 3: agreement to us per sectors like sheep meat. They've got 52 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 3: a really good game Kiwi fruits and apples. Obviously dairy 53 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 3: wasn't flash, but you've got to remember India's got the 54 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 3: most cattle or bovines in the world. They're not really 55 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 3: that interested in dairy at this stage, but because of 56 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 3: their burgeoning population, they're still dairy deficient. So at some 57 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 3: stage down the track they're going to be looking for 58 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 3: suppliers and hopefully we're in the one one in the 59 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 3: box seat here to be able to do that. Jacoby 60 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 3: went on to say that FTAs must be seen in 61 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 3: the context of a very disruptive international environment thanks to 62 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 3: mister Trump, and it was simply not possible to get 63 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 3: the sort of gains that we had earlier, for example, 64 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 3: our China deal or even our cp TPP deal. I 65 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 3: hope I didn't get too many peace in there. So 66 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: all in all, Todd mcclay's done a blooming good job. 67 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 3: Instance not happy. I just hope bipartisan politics prevails. Heather 68 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 3: and labor back and I was talking to damian O 69 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 3: kind of the day their trade guy, and I got 70 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: the impression talking to him that they will good on 71 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 3: him if they do. 72 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's interesting you raise that because Chippy was 73 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: sounding a bit like he's got a few issues with it. 74 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: So is it a case of them just wanting to 75 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: iron out a few things or they get because the 76 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: thing is done right, you've got to accept it the 77 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: way it is. 78 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 2: So what's Labor going to do? 79 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: I under Yeah, I don't think. I don't think Chippy 80 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 3: can change anything, and you know, like he might be 81 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 3: risk because I think this is one of those issues 82 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 3: that we need kind of across the board support on. Obviously, 83 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 3: I don't think the green sorts of party Maury will 84 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 3: do it, but I mean Labor are largely sensible. I 85 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 3: don't see why they wouldn't agree with this. It's in 86 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 3: the best interests of New Zealand. Think. Look, India is 87 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 3: the most populous nation on Earth. It's now the fourth 88 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 3: BIGUS economy. Very shortly it will overtake Germany as the 89 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 3: third BIGUS economy. We've got to be in their boots and. 90 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: All yep here. 91 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you very much for that. Jammie is always 92 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: Jamy mckaie host of the Country. 93 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy, Allen Drive, listen live to 94 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 95 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.