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Speaker 1: New Zealand's home for trusted news and views. Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: on the Mike Hosking Breakfast with al Vida, Retirement Communities, Life,

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Speaker 1: Your Way News, togs Head.

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Speaker 2: Been good morning, it is Thursday, the twentieth of March.

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Speaker 2: Great to be with you, Michael Way. Today I'll explain

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Speaker 2: why in just a few moments GDP we're going to

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Speaker 2: get quarter four numbers out today for twenty twenty four

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Speaker 2: have we managed to drag ourselves kicking and screaming out

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Speaker 2: of the hole. Plus what's everyone doing with their mortgage rates?

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Speaker 2: Sam Ruth, the man of the moments, breaks the records,

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Speaker 2: but as he back to school today, we'll speak to him.

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Speaker 2: Joe McKennis in Rome and Rodnaldell in the UK News

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Speaker 2: of the World. In ninety seconds, Nnyaho's full force attacks

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Speaker 2: have continued, but now a un work has been killed

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Speaker 2: in the strikes.

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Speaker 3: So your knops Colic has been killed in Gaza following

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Speaker 3: explosions in their bada. In my opinion, was not an accident.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Vocals there have been describing the re engagement from

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Speaker 2: Israel after the Seas five fell apart as constant.

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Speaker 4: We continue to hear strikes or the night and a

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Speaker 4: few during the day, including.

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Speaker 5: Random other random explosions during the day.

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Speaker 4: So yes, it's been a tough couple of days.

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Speaker 2: Right now, Trump and Zelensky are on the phone, something

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Speaker 2: Zolensky was quite keen for, because Putin attacked his energy

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Speaker 2: infrastructure overnight a couple of hospitals as well, just hours

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Speaker 2: after saying he wouldn't do that with Trump.

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Speaker 6: Sure, wid you today there will be a cool, very

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Speaker 6: very short.

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Speaker 7: Everything will happen after the cool.

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Speaker 6: More information will be after the cool.

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Trump's gone on Fox. He's doubling down on his

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Speaker 2: criticism on judges trying to block him by upholding the law.

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Speaker 8: I don't know who the judge is, but he's radical, loved.

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Speaker 8: What do you do when you have a rogue judge?

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Speaker 8: The judge that we're talking about, he's you look at

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Speaker 8: his other rulings, I mean rulings unrelated but having to

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Speaker 8: do with me. He's a lunatic.

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Speaker 2: So kes Darma still facing the heat in the house

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Speaker 2: over the welfare cut.

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Speaker 6: We've made provision for hospices, we've made provisions for charities,

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Speaker 6: but we had to secure the economy. We had to

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Speaker 6: fill the twenty two billion bud black Hole, but they disgracefully.

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Speaker 2: Are now this inquiry into the killer Lucy Letbee and

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Speaker 2: how she was able to murder and get away with

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Speaker 2: it fourteen babies dead will not be halted. This is

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Speaker 2: despite the latest appeal of the convictions.

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Speaker 4: Perhaps principle and most obvious amongst the concessions made by

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Speaker 4: just about everyone is the acknowledgment that there was a

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Speaker 4: total failure of safeguarding at every level.

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Speaker 2: Finally, this morning, the man that was announced dead by

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Speaker 2: a Bulgarian soccer team, while being very much alive, has

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Speaker 2: spoken out have you miss this? It was a bizarre

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Speaker 2: moment on field Bulgaria's first league. They held a few

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Speaker 2: minutes silence. All the players stood around one of Arda's players,

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Speaker 2: Petko Gangshev's's name, after they received some wrong information about

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Speaker 2: his death. Now Ganzeb has detailed what it was like

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Speaker 2: for him. He said he and his wife never miss

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Speaker 2: a game, but he was late coming home for the

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Speaker 2: game by about ten minutes. He said his phone started

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Speaker 2: blowing up as he was close to home, but he

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Speaker 2: doesn't pick it up while he's driving, of course, so

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Speaker 2: he gets home. His wife is in tears as the

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Speaker 2: team have wrung her to say, they'll be holding a

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Speaker 2: minute's silence. There he is pulling into the driveway. The

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Speaker 2: guy was not dead. While it was very stressful, he

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Speaker 2: did say he enjoyed the brandy that he bought himself

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Speaker 2: that night, more than he usually picked. They still haven't

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Speaker 2: explained in that story why they thought he was dead

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Speaker 2: and what kind of confirmation process was there to go through.

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Speaker 9: Well, when Mike didn't gime in this winning, I assumed

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Speaker 9: he was dead.

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Speaker 2: Now for those listening, you will be it's okay. Mike

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Speaker 2: is okay, but he's just unwell today. So I've been

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Speaker 2: given the last minute call up. It's posting, not hosking. Actually,

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Speaker 2: thank you, Glenn cryan Bridge better. Eleven minutes after six.

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Speaker 2: We've got some numbers out today from the Ministry of Justice.

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Speaker 2: So the number of people charged has increased in the

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Speaker 2: last year, which you won't be surprised to hear because

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Speaker 2: we have a change of government and they've got a

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Speaker 2: whole new agenda. Right. So the numbers are sixty seven thousand,

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Speaker 2: three hundred and ninety nine people were charged in twenty

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Speaker 2: We had it one hundred and forty three per ten thousand.

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Speaker 2: Now that is up on one hundred and thirty eight

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Speaker 2: was one hundred and sixty four pre COVID. So yes,

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Speaker 2: we are charging more people, but we are not yet

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Speaker 2: back to pre COVID levels. It's a little bit like tourism.

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Speaker 2: And clearly if we've learned a lesson here, I think

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Speaker 2: it gets worse. So clearly there's a little bit of

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Speaker 2: work for our justice system to do there. Twelve minutes

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Speaker 2: after six, we'll have more on that after seven This

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Speaker 2: Six or fourteen News Talk ZVB. Trump's just posted on

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Speaker 2: his Truth social platform He's had a call with Zelensky.

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Speaker 2: So obviously yesterday it was a call with Potin today

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Speaker 2: a call with Zelenski. He says, just got off the phone,

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Speaker 2: A very good telephone call with Zelenski. It lasted approximately

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Speaker 2: one hour much of the discussion was based on the

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Speaker 2: call that I made with Poutin to align both Russia

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Speaker 2: and Ukraine. He said he's going to get it his

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Speaker 2: officials to put out a proper statement later on. So

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Speaker 2: basically no real update other than he's agreed with Poutin

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Speaker 2: to a partial ceasefire that already hasn't happened. It's called

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Speaker 2: a past six. Greg Smith, Devon Fund Management or US

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Speaker 2: this morning. Great, good morning to you morning, Ryan. Now,

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Speaker 2: the current account deficit narrowing got to be a good thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's a good thing.

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Speaker 10: And of course we're waiting those quarterly GDP numbers today.

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Speaker 10: So if you look at the current account deficit, that's

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Speaker 10: five point nine billion dollars in the December quarter, and

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Speaker 10: that's down four to seventy five million from September. So

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Speaker 10: a couple of tailwinds to the improvements there. So increased exports,

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Speaker 10: both of goods but also services.

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Speaker 2: So you've got services exports.

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Speaker 10: They are up by almost seven hundred million, and a

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Speaker 10: lot of this runs due to spending by overseas visitors.

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Speaker 10: That was some four hundred million that had increased by

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Speaker 10: so yeah, while the number of tourists coming into the

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Speaker 10: spending is and it's actually exceeded that. So you can

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Speaker 10: say inflation's helping a bit more, spending a bit more overseas.

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Speaker 10: But this is really positive. Also in terms of goods exports.

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Speaker 2: That the quarterly.

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Speaker 10: Deficit there that narrowed by one hundred million to one

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Speaker 10: increase by filling an eighty million as well to twenty

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Speaker 10: point one billion, but overall really encouraging Ryan. So it's

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Speaker 10: taken our annual current account deficit to twenty six point

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Speaker 10: four billion, and that's around six point two percent of GDP,

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Speaker 10: but still around seven hundred million down from where.

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Speaker 2: It was in September.

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Speaker 10: So we're still spending more than we am We've been

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Speaker 10: doing that for many, many years.

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Speaker 2: But look, the train is our friend.

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Speaker 10: In this case, and a lo of deficite means we

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Speaker 10: don't have to borrow as much, so that should.

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Speaker 2: Alleviate some concerns around our debt rating. Now, gold it's

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Speaker 2: Also silver has been doing well. Silver has been doing

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Speaker 2: even better, and presumably this is all the volatility people

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Speaker 10: So the precious metals are seen as safe haven, so

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Speaker 10: both against geopolitical tensions but also against inflation and uncertainties,

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Speaker 10: So you look at the geopolitical side and you talk

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Speaker 10: worried about the economics slow down or see Trump's tariffs

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Speaker 10: and how that factors into inflation. So yes, has been

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Speaker 10: good for gold. That's been seen as a store of

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Speaker 10: There's also a notion that's a limited amount in the ground,

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Speaker 2: Fascinating, isn't it. Basically gold, silver, European shares. These are

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Speaker 2: The Bank of Japan has decided to leave rates on hold.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's right. So I think it's going to be

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Speaker 10: bit of the Banker of England to not We've got

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Speaker 10: their last meet. They're trying to sort of encourage inflation

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Speaker 10: rather than sort of stamp it out the battle with deflation.

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Speaker 10: But yeah, similar move in terms of that. They're leaving

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Speaker 10: the tariff sort of front all plays out.

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Speaker 2: I guess you know.

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Speaker 10: The next big line the sand is the start of

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Speaker 10: April in terms of what Trump.

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Speaker 2: Brilliant, Greg, give us the numbers.

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Speaker 2: And for Mike this morning, if you're just joining us,

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Speaker 2: A good morning, Good morning, ryme. Is this a good thing?

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Speaker 11: Well?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, and all the worldwide, the statistics show that most

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Speaker 2: Which is what's happening. So for the when if people

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Speaker 16: Absolutely, and people talk about no, I've lived it for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Brandon, interesting stuff. Thanks so much for coming on

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Speaker 2: Talk set b I am everybody cats those numbers. It's

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Speaker 17: We didn't get enough of the numbers. Actually, one of

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Speaker 9: It was all very.

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Speaker 17: Well to see lovely pictures of what it would look

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Speaker 2: There you go, he says. The buildingaires came with the

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Speaker 2: Eighteen away from seven at News Talk ZMB, we are

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast full shown iHeartRadio powered by News Talk.

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Speaker 9: Hip be.

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Speaker 2: News Talks AB quarter to seven. So Trump's ceasefire talks

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Speaker 2: I haven't been as successful as you would have hoped that.

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Speaker 2: I guess at least people are talking. Carolyn Levett, who's

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Speaker 2: the White House Press Secretary, she's giving a briefing at

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Speaker 2: the moment. She's spoken about intelligence sharing.

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Speaker 12: They reviewed the situation in Kirsk and agreed to share

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Speaker 12: information closely between their defense staffs. As the battlefield situation evolved,

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Speaker 12: President Zelenski asked for additional air defense systems to protect

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Speaker 12: his civilians, particularly Patriot missile systems, and President Trump agreed

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Speaker 12: to work with him to find what was available, particularly

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Speaker 12: in Europe.

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Speaker 2: So he's had the call with pertin yesterday and this

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Speaker 2: morning as we were sleeping, it was the call with

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Speaker 2: Zelensky and they spoke. This is Trump and Zelensky about

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Speaker 2: the prospects of a six five.

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Speaker 12: Two leaders also agreed on a partial ceasefire against energy.

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Speaker 12: Technical teams will meet in Saudi Arabia in the coming

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Speaker 12: days to discuss broadening the ceasefire to the Black Sea

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Speaker 12: on the way to a false They agreed this could

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Speaker 12: be the first step towards the full end of the

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Speaker 12: war in ensuring security.

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Speaker 2: And yet overnight you've had Russian shelling hospitals and other infrastructure.

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Speaker 2: They said they wouldn't already. They also spoke about the

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Speaker 2: missing kids of Ukraine.

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Speaker 12: President Trump also asked President Zelensky about the children who

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Speaker 12: had gone missing from Ukraine during the war, including the

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Speaker 12: ones that had been abducted, and President Trump promised to

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Speaker 12: work closely with both parties to help make sure those

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Speaker 12: children were returned home. They agreed all parties must continue

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Speaker 12: the effort to make US ease.

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Speaker 18: Firework, international correspondence with ins and Eye Insurance, Peace of

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Speaker 18: mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: Joe McKinnon is in Rome for US this morning. Joe,

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Speaker 2: good morning, Good morning, Ryan. Now, what's the latest with

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Speaker 2: the Pope houses help.

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Speaker 13: Well, it's been a rocky ride, as we all know

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Speaker 13: for Pope Francis. He's been in hospital now for more

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Speaker 13: than a month. The Vatican says he's making slush improvements.

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Speaker 13: We're just waiting for an update, which should come through

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Speaker 13: in the next half an hour. But now there's a

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Speaker 13: lot of concern because, particularly because King Charles and Queen

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Speaker 13: Camilla have announced a state visit to Rome in April,

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Speaker 13: and they're saying they're ready to meet the Pope, but

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Speaker 13: the Vatican refuses to confirm a if that's happening, or

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Speaker 13: b whether the Pope will be out of hospital by then.

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Speaker 2: Right. Meanwhile, we've got the defense talks continuing. This is

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Speaker 2: the bid to increase defense spending. Maloney there has backed

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Speaker 2: the plans, but the coalition not quite sure about how

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Speaker 2: much we should spend.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, First of all, for the Italian Prime Minister Georgia Maloney,

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Speaker 13: it's a very difficult tightrope that she's walking. She wants

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Speaker 13: to be pro EU, she wants to be pro Ukraine,

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Speaker 13: but she also wants to protect her relationship with the

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Speaker 13: American President Donald Trump. She's been updating Parliament today ahead

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Speaker 13: of an EU summit where the leaders are going to

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Speaker 13: discuss Ukraine with support and plans to increase defense spending.

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Speaker 13: Italian defense spending now at one point five percent of GDP,

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Speaker 13: that split the coalition. Her Brothers of Italy party backs

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Speaker 13: the EU trying to raise that amount, while the League party,

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Speaker 13: run by her deputy Prime Minister Matteo Slovini, opposes it.

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Speaker 13: Now he says that money, any increase in spending on

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Speaker 13: or rearmaments, that money should be allocated to schools, hospitals

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Speaker 13: and pensions. And you can imagine that resonates quite well

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Speaker 13: with the Italian electorate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, it's the same problem that a lot of those,

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Speaker 2: a lot of your fellow European countries will be grappling with.

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Speaker 2: It's a very big bill to have to cover this

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Speaker 2: defense one. Now, what is the deal with these one

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Speaker 2: euro homes, Joe? Are they still on offer? And these beautiful,

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Speaker 2: quaint Italian towns they are.

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Speaker 13: Indeed, I've visited quite a few of these one Euro

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Speaker 13: towns in Sicily and there's another one in Sardinia. But

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Speaker 13: this is a different proposal now coming from the northern

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Speaker 13: province of Trento, which is up in the Dolomite Mountains

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Speaker 13: right up on the Austrian border. They're off ring one

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Speaker 13: hundred thousand euros to people who want to live in

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Speaker 13: their deserted towns. They've identified around thirty three towns that

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Speaker 13: are running out of people and they want to encourage

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Speaker 13: even foreigners to move to these villages that have lost

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Speaker 13: their inhabitants. Now to get the money, you've got to

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Speaker 13: live there fourteen years or rent the property at a

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Speaker 13: moderate rate to someone who will live there. But for

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Speaker 13: people in New Zealand who love their mountains, I love

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Speaker 13: their skiing, this is certainly something worth considering. I would think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have thought so too. I watched a

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Speaker 2: documentary on it just the other day, a YouTube. One's great, Joe.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a lot of work, though, it's a

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Speaker 2: lot of work.

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Speaker 13: It's a lot of work if you take one of

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Speaker 13: those one euro houses and rip them apart, certainly, but

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Speaker 13: I've seen some great results with them all the same.

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Speaker 2: Joe mckinner and Italy, thanks so much for your time

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Speaker 2: this morning, just gone ten away from seven year own news.

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Speaker 2: Talk to b when we come back. The biz and

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Speaker 2: also the deal potential deal between in New Zealand and India.

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Speaker 2: The numbers on this are pretty impressive of what could

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Speaker 2: happen if we opened up a link to direct link

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Speaker 2: to Mumbai ten away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge on the Mike Hosking breakfast with Bailey's real

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Speaker 1: estate NEWSTALGSD.

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Speaker 2: Sleven away from seven. We'll look at the GDP after

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Speaker 2: seven this morning. This FPA train keeps on chugging. Not

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Speaker 2: that we haven't FTA out of India yet, but the

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Speaker 2: talks on the sidelines continue. Luxon is still there by

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Speaker 2: the way, so this one I can bring you news

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Speaker 2: of this morning. Air New Zealand and Air India have

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Speaker 2: announced they're basically talking to each other this about getting

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Speaker 2: a flight from Mumbai into New Zealand. Theur ism a

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Speaker 2: big priority obviously. Now last year we had eighty two

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Speaker 2: thousand Indians coming to New Zealand. They reckon if you

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Speaker 2: open up access, and that's basically flights and routes, you

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Speaker 2: can boost that up to five hundred thousand per year.

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Speaker 2: For some perspective, pre COVID we were getting about four

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Speaker 2: hundred thousand China, so that is not an insignificant number.

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Speaker 2: Long way, the talks continue, But I mean there's nothing

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Speaker 2: in here about an actual deal being done just yet.

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Speaker 2: Six away from seven well.

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Speaker 1: The in and the ouse. It's the bearz with business

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Speaker 1: Timer take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Here is a bit of business news that you can

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Speaker 2: actually use. If you're in the smaller towns of New

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Speaker 2: Zealand and you've been jealous of us in the big

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Speaker 2: cities being able to use Uber eats, have I got

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Speaker 2: news for you. Don't be jealous because all it does

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Speaker 2: is make you fat. But anyway, Uber Eats is expanding

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Speaker 2: not only our waistlines but also around the country. The

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Speaker 2: focus on hitting regional towns. Apparently, for the first time,

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Speaker 2: you'll be able to order your burger and chips on

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Speaker 2: the app and wait for it Wayuku, Huntley, Motsueka, Graymouth, Gore,

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Speaker 2: Mutta Mutter, Morrinsville, Thames and Kerry Carey. Hopefully in those

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Speaker 2: small towns you'll actually have something open to deliver to you.

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Speaker 2: I shouldn't laugh. Essentially, there's a new feature come into

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Speaker 2: Uber as well. They're also releasing by the end of

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Speaker 2: the month a feature on Uber for New Zealand's New

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Speaker 2: Zealanders called Eats for teens. Essentially, it's a kiddie lock

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Speaker 2: for uber. Parents will be able to set spending limits,

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Speaker 2: track deliveries, and get notifications anytime their teenager orders something,

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Speaker 2: so that they can monitor whether they're being healthy or not.

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Speaker 2: It's also suggested that parents will be able to set

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Speaker 2: limits as to what restaurants or fast food chains their

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Speaker 2: teams can order from. Probably won't stop a savvy teenager

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Speaker 2: from making a new account to bypass the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they know more than anyone else, don't They.

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Speaker 9: Are any word on whether they're coming to Wontaka or

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Speaker 9: you know.

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Speaker 2: You'd hope so poor old Wonicah. Hey, speaking of Wantaca.

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Speaker 2: You know, it was not just the local sort of

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Speaker 2: green brigade that was against that McDonald's there, but it

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Speaker 2: was also our Ministry of Health at Health New Zealand

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Speaker 2: was saying don't build the McDonald's there. And they weren't

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Speaker 2: just saying that because Berger is a bad for your

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Speaker 2: health or whatever. They were also saying that because the environment.

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Speaker 2: What does the Ministry of Health, What does Health New

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Speaker 2: Zealand have to do with the environment.

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Speaker 19: So I suppose if you trip over a discarded I

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Speaker 19: don't know, you know, giant frozen coke can or something.

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Speaker 2: Then you could hurt yourself. That's an acc problem, that's

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Speaker 2: not a health end zed problem. So anyway, the Minister,

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Speaker 2: Simon Brown, he has quite worked up about this morning.

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Speaker 2: I worked up about this and he's worked up in

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Speaker 2: particular about the team of people. And you can just

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Speaker 2: picture them beavering away there in Wellington. I'll hit their

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Speaker 2: pens out and laptops out. Who can we hit next?

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Speaker 2: He's heading back after seven thirty.

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Speaker 1: The Breakfast Show, Kiwi's Trust to stay in the now.

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Speaker 1: Brian Bridge on the mic, asking breakfast with Bailey's real

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Speaker 1: estate altogether better across residential, commercial and rural news togsad be.

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Speaker 2: Good morning at a seven after seven. Mike is not

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Speaker 2: with us this morning. He is ill, but I am

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Speaker 2: here so do not fear he's fine. He's not dead

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Speaker 2: or anything. He's just not here today. Right. There is

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Speaker 2: hope the economy bounced back to life in the December quarter.

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Speaker 2: We're getting numbers today. GEDDP figures will be revealed this morning.

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Speaker 2: Most economists are picking growth, albeit not much. It's pretty slim.

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Speaker 2: Most projections between point three point five. Westpac is sitting

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Speaker 2: at the point t more optimistic end. Senior economist Michael

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Speaker 2: Gordon is with me this morning. Michael, good morning, Michael,

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Speaker 2: good morning.

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Speaker 20: Hey, good morning.

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Speaker 2: So why a bit more optimism from you.

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Speaker 20: I wouldn't really call it optimism, but I think there's

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Speaker 20: within the range of forecasts. It's sort of at the

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Speaker 20: upper end. But I think the number that we're going

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Speaker 20: to see today there's potential for it to be boosted

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Speaker 20: by some technical issues. It's a little tricky to explain,

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Speaker 20: but there I think there's been ongoing issues. Is kind

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Speaker 20: of understanding the pattern of growth throughout the year. Some

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Speaker 20: changes that Statsney Zealand did last time, I think to

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Speaker 20: not to my mind of probably not helped with understanding that.

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Speaker 20: I think if you go through sector by sector, what

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Speaker 20: it looks to me is probably more like flat for

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Speaker 20: the quarter. There have been some signs of things turning,

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Speaker 20: but it's probably been more in early twenty five than

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Speaker 20: in late twenty four.

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Speaker 2: And whatever that number is, I mean, let's hope that

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Speaker 2: it's obviously positive. But whatever the number is, it's going

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Speaker 2: to be led by, isn't it primary exporters doing the

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Speaker 2: heavy lifting?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, certainly we've had some good conditions for exporters strong

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Speaker 20: milk collections really this season, and some pretty decent prices

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Speaker 20: for dairy and milk. I mean, good prices don't go

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Speaker 20: directly into GDP, but it turns into farmers income, that

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Speaker 20: turns into spending in the regions and so on. So

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Speaker 20: that's certainly a helpful factor. We're tending to see the

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Speaker 20: more I guess, the more sectors that are focused on

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Speaker 20: the local markets still struggling, and especially things like construction

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Speaker 20: still really and is quite a steep downturn.

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Speaker 2: Looking ahead, I mean looking at Order one twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 2: and I know we're about to look backwards today, but

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Speaker 2: looking ahead, you had that confidence survey yesterday. I think

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Speaker 2: you know, Key is feeling a bit jetterary. Is that

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Speaker 2: going to impact spending? Does this delay the recovery?

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Speaker 9: Yes?

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Speaker 20: Certainly interesting that that kievy consumers are you know, focused

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Speaker 20: on things like the global uncertainty, given that it hasn't

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Speaker 20: so directly touched us yet, there's always the risk that

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Speaker 20: we get something much more tangible when Trump comes out

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Speaker 20: with his beautiful tariffs on April seconds. But it's something

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Speaker 20: that's playing on people's minds. While we are seeing some

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Speaker 20: pick up in the actual spending numbers. It's been pretty gradual.

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Speaker 20: People are still waiting to feel the relief from lower

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Speaker 20: interest rates in many cases as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and a little bit spoke by what's happening over

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Speaker 2: in the White House. Michael, Thank you for that. Michael Gordon,

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Speaker 2: who's THEES senior economist with Wes Pack this morning, we'll

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Speaker 2: have the number here on News Talk News Talks. Heb

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Speaker 2: for you later on this morning. This is a JEDDP

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Speaker 2: for fourth quarter last year, finally after how long. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you look at those numbers yesterday on consumer confidence and

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Speaker 2: honestly it's a bit depressing because for the last basically

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Speaker 2: the last twenty years pre COVID, we were in the positive.

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Speaker 2: We were feeling good. There was a blip during the GFC,

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Speaker 2: but then the last five years, basically since twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: one ish twenty twenty twenty twenty one, we have been negative.

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Speaker 2: Our confidence has been negative, and we were within three

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Speaker 2: points of getting back to positive and we've slid again

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Speaker 2: thanks to well bit afair about Trump and his tariffs.

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Speaker 2: It's ten after seven bridge. See while now core Logic

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Speaker 2: is sensing an incoming rates war interest rates that it

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Speaker 2: is with signs that borrowers are starting to check out

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Speaker 2: the two year, the three year, the fixed term deals again,

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Speaker 2: people going a bit long. In January, ninety percent of

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Speaker 2: borrow has chose floating or fixed rates of six to

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Speaker 2: twelve months. But that is all about to change. David

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Speaker 2: Cunningham from Squirrel Mortgage Brokers is with me, David, good morning,

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Speaker 2: Hi Ran, So are you what sort of here is

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Speaker 2: are you getting at the moment? What are you hearing? Oh?

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Speaker 15: Look, it's thingsul change dramatically since pre Christmas and you've

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Speaker 15: had this march down in the ocr and people were

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Speaker 15: and then as soon as that happens, they jump into

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Speaker 15: a short term fixtraate And that's been going on really

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Speaker 15: for the best part of a year, where everyone's been

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Speaker 15: in short term rates on the expectation that the OCO

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Speaker 15: would come done. So it's come down a fair better

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Speaker 15: readio and there's a couple of more cuts definitely to

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Speaker 15: come based on what the Reserve Bank said to us.

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Speaker 15: So what was sort of seen is I wouldn't say, actually,

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Speaker 15: I think NR in terms of a mortgage war. I

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Speaker 15: think what we saw is you know, pre Christmas we

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Speaker 15: were sort of calling out the squirrel. We were calling

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Speaker 15: a four ninety nine rate earlier in the new year,

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Speaker 15: and the skinners that have got underway with Westpac going

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Speaker 15: to four ninety nine with a three year term, then

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Speaker 15: they pulled it a couple of weeks later, and then

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Speaker 15: I think AMZ the same day to the four nineteen

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Speaker 15: nine for two year, and essentially every bank has come

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Speaker 15: to that level pretty much. Look, we could see the

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Speaker 15: one year right ago, but but I actually don't think

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Speaker 15: there's a war coming. I think, you know, we've sort

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Speaker 15: of past this threshold and banks that are now just

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Speaker 15: going to sort of hove around that level.

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Speaker 2: So do you reckon people should like? I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: not going to get much better than four point ninety nine.

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Speaker 2: And I guess the other thing is, what you know,

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Speaker 2: do you really want to sit here and for how

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Speaker 2: long trying to pick the bottom of the market, right? Yeah?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, Well look what we've seen is like almost

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Speaker 15: you know, the bulk of customers are now taking four

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Speaker 15: ninety nine for two years. I mean I just adapt,

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Speaker 15: Well then then money where your mouth is? Yeah, So

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Speaker 15: you know, i'd i'd been on set of six months

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Speaker 15: rights the last you know, a year or two or

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Speaker 15: something like that, just waiting for waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting

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Speaker 15: and happened. And you know, when you look back over

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Speaker 15: history and you can look through from two thousand and

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Speaker 15: ten to sort of two thousand, you know, to pre COVID,

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Speaker 15: you know, interest rates one two year terms, we're in

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Speaker 15: that four to five percent range for that whole time

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Speaker 15: almost so you know, unless the economy tanks further, which

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Speaker 15: Michael just said that it's you know, probably looking a

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Speaker 15: bit better, even if consumers are still gloomy, you know,

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Speaker 15: you're probably going to be in that range, but more

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Speaker 15: likely the middle of the range for so one year term.

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Speaker 15: You know, so it could be a bit lie, but

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Speaker 15: you know what we you know, scrolls views for night

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Speaker 15: times and damn good Rain, you too for it.

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Speaker 2: David Cunningham Squirrel mortgage brokers to squirrel with us this morning,

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Speaker 2: just gone thirteen, after seven news talks. Here'b will go

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Speaker 2: back to the White House because Caroline Levitt's press conference continues.

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Speaker 2: This is a Trump's press secretary. She's very good, She's

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Speaker 2: not be very in charge of the business anyway, She's

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Speaker 2: continuing to be the loyal to Trump talking about the

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Speaker 2: so called activist judge that Trump is rallying against. But

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Speaker 2: she might not have quite got which is unusual for her,

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Speaker 2: but may not quite have got all of her facts right.

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Speaker 2: Have a listen.

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Speaker 12: This judge, Judge Bosburg, is a Democrat activist. He was

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Speaker 12: appointed by Barack Obama. His wife has donated more than

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Speaker 12: ten thousand dollars to Democrats, and he is consistent shown

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Speaker 12: his disdain for this president and his policies.

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Speaker 14: And it's unacceptable.

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Speaker 16: Rare.

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Speaker 14: I wanted to go about the idea of these people

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Speaker 14: are a four terrorists, but jose Bodberg was originally appointed

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Speaker 14: by Georgia W.

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Speaker 18: Bush and then.

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Speaker 14: Elevated by Barack Obama.

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Speaker 11: It's just feel like I.

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Speaker 9: Should clear that up.

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Speaker 12: Well, let me just say something to that effect, Garrett.

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Speaker 12: Sixty seven percent of all of the injunctions in this

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Speaker 12: century have come against which President Donald J.

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Speaker 21: Trump.

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Speaker 2: So there you go. Caroline Nevitt from the White House,

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Speaker 2: just gone fourteen to after seven news talks, hebbs still

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Speaker 2: to come. New news from the Ministry of Education this morning,

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Speaker 2: and it's upsetting, surprise, surprise, the Principles Federation. It's all

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Speaker 2: about the tests that our kids are taking at primary

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Speaker 2: and intermediate schools. I'll tell you about that next.

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Speaker 1: The like Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Power

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Speaker 1: by News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 2: News TALKSB. It is seventeen minutes after seven. Great to

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Speaker 2: have your company. Now, this is just happening this morning.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Z's reporting that the government has apparently blindsided primary

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Speaker 2: princes by going to market for a test. So the

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Speaker 2: government has already announced on everybody knows this that if

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Speaker 2: you're at primary or intermediate school there will be two tests,

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Speaker 2: or they want there to be two tests every year

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Speaker 2: for children in reading, writing and maths. Now the government's

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Speaker 2: announced that they have put out to tender for these

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Speaker 2: tests two tests per year primary and intermediate years three

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Speaker 2: to ten. Put out a tender and this is upset

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Speaker 2: the Principals Federation. I mean, why you would be surprised

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Speaker 2: by that? I have no idea, but anyway, Leanne or

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Speaker 2: Tenny is the federation president. She says the call for

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Speaker 2: proposals was a total surprise and contrary to what it

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Speaker 2: had been told. Quite why they need to be told

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Speaker 2: everything about you know everything? I don't know, but she

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Speaker 2: said she's worried that the new test could be developed

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Speaker 2: by a foreign company with no knowledge of New Zealand

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Speaker 2: schools or culture. But the tests, remember are for reading writing,

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Speaker 2: and which I assumed would have been quite universal. Eighteen

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Speaker 2: after seven. Now over in Wellington. We love to hate

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Speaker 2: on Wellington. And I can say this because it's like

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Speaker 2: Billy T doing his stuff. I'm from Wellington, so I

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Speaker 2: can say this about Wellington. But there's a disturbance happening

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Speaker 2: with their new cycle way, which is already disturbing to

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Speaker 2: begin with, but the people who are using it, the

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Speaker 2: actual cyclists, are starting to complain about the new cycle

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Speaker 2: way because and one of them actually says, there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of talk about cyclists wanting to be separated from cars.

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Speaker 2: I want to be separated from oncoming cyclists, so they're

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Speaker 2: actually going towards one another. There's no white or yellow

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Speaker 2: lines in the middle of the cycle way, and apparently

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Speaker 2: feeling quite vulnerable on the old bike. And this project,

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Speaker 2: by the way, fifty five million dollars, So good luck

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Speaker 2: to you. Nineteen after seven News Talk SEVB. I'll give

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Speaker 2: you an update on the Putin Trump and then Trump.

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Speaker 2: Zelensky calls next.

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Speaker 2: It is twenty three minutes after seven year old news

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Speaker 2: talk sat B. No such thing as a ceasefire this morning. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: it's all breaking down in the Middle East. Israel is

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Speaker 2: coming out with more fighting talk, the rockets are back on.

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Speaker 2: And as for Ukraine, Trump hasn't exactly cloaked himself in

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Speaker 2: glory with this so called deal. And I say so

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Speaker 2: called deal because it hasn't actually held yet. First it

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Speaker 2: was only partial, no full cease fire like Zelensky had

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Speaker 2: agreed to. Second, it covered energy and infrastructure, a thirty

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Speaker 2: day pause for them. But already the Russians have fired

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Speaker 2: at energy facilities, They've already fired at Rhodes, They've already

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Speaker 2: taken on two hospitals. Now, if you go and have

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Speaker 2: a look at the redoubt. From the call between Trump

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Speaker 2: and Putin, it says Putin gave the order immediately, gave

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Speaker 2: the order to his top brass to stop the firing. Right, So,

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Speaker 2: either the military is going rogue and firing anyway, or

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Speaker 2: Putin's up to his old tricks. Actually, both of those

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Speaker 2: things could be happening at the same time. How with

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Speaker 2: Russia they could both be true, right, But either way,

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Speaker 2: for Trump, the big game he talks, the art of

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Speaker 2: the deal has just hit a Kremlin wall in Trump's

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Speaker 2: favor reputation wise. Is at least people are talking about peace. Right,

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Speaker 2: We've just had three years of war. Whenever you get

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Speaker 2: a world leader meeting, it's talk about more and more

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Speaker 2: and more more war, a ceasefire and armistice, a peace,

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Speaker 2: steel whatever. These things require action, the act of putting

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Speaker 2: down your weapons, a truce, if you will, But that

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Speaker 2: at first needs talks, and at least Trump can argue

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Speaker 2: at least the phones are ringing. Twenty five minutes after

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Speaker 2: seven News Talk said be somebody said, Ryan, can you

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Speaker 2: please tap the pen against the desk a little louder

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Speaker 2: and better? Obviously there's somebody who's quite psychastic up there.

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Speaker 2: I'm annoying this morning. I apologize. I didn't know I

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Speaker 2: did it, Glenn. Do you hear it?

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Speaker 19: M Yeah, I can't say that now that, now that

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Speaker 19: it's been brought up, I can't unhear it, of course.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 19: So I guess people are just missing the way that

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Speaker 19: Mike prefers to just thump the desk he and bounce

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Speaker 19: it up and down.

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Speaker 9: They seem to love that.

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Speaker 2: Oh, hang on, let me give it a try.

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Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah of that.

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Speaker 19: And also when you're done with a piece of paper,

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Speaker 19: if you can just audibly screw it up, yeah, and then.

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Speaker 9: Throw it in the event.

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Speaker 2: I do do that, but that's because there's a bin

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Speaker 2: in here that you can throw it into, which is

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Speaker 2: quite handy. Lots of text coming in on other important

880
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Speaker 2: things too. This is on uber Eats, which is apparently

881
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Speaker 2: not that important, but apparently expanding into the regions. This

882
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Speaker 2: is a report from Morinsville, Ryan. Nothing is open late

883
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Speaker 2: enough here to order Uber Eats or bother ordering Uber

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Speaker 2: eats at dinner time. Anyway, Ryan. Parents need to teach

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Speaker 2: their children and probably themselves, how to cook, rather than

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Speaker 2: use an app to make them poor, lazy and unhealthy.

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Speaker 2: Says Simon the Uber Eats grinch this morning. It's true, though,

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Speaker 2: when it comes straight to your door, you don't even

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Speaker 2: have to look a delivery driver in the eye to

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Speaker 2: the shame that you bring to your house. It just

891
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Speaker 2: drops it on the front porch and it goes.

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Speaker 9: I know somebody who ordered a milkshake on Uber Eats.

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Speaker 2: Not just one milkshake. Well I've done that. I know

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Speaker 2: it's so extravagant, but god it's good and no shame,

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Speaker 2: you don't feel the shame. News Talks, sa'd be We're

896
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Speaker 2: going to talk to someone who probably doesn't have too

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Speaker 2: many milkshakes, Sam Ruth, who's broken a world record.

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Speaker 1: Next your source of freaking news, challenging a villion and

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Speaker 1: honors backs Bryan Bridge on the my casking Breakfast with Vida,

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Speaker 1: Retirement Communities, Life Your Way, News Talks.

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Speaker 2: D B twenty three away from eight on news Talk

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Speaker 2: said b Sam Ruth is the man of the moment,

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Speaker 2: well the young man at the moment. He's only fifteen,

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Speaker 2: but he has just broken the four minute mile record

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand. Well in the world, but he's done

906
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Speaker 2: it in New Zealand. He's with us before eight o'clock

907
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Speaker 2: this morning for a bit of an update on how

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Speaker 2: it felt, who got him there, who's supporting him, and

909
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Speaker 2: what he did to celebrate. He's on the show before

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Speaker 2: eight this morning. This business in Hawk's Bay of inz

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Speaker 2: post so there were some post boxes. You might have

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Speaker 2: seen this in the news yesterday. Postboxes out there in

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Speaker 2: Hawk's Bay. People were putting letters in them and items

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Speaker 2: and then thinking that they were going to be collected

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Speaker 2: by the post is and then taken and delivered. Actually, no,

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Speaker 2: these were decommissioned, for want of a better term, decommissioned

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Speaker 2: postboxes sitting on the side of the road. People are

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Speaker 2: putting their letters and their pen pals and I don't

919
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Speaker 2: know what people write putting them in there, and they

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Speaker 2: were just sitting there. Now. The union came out yesterday

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Speaker 2: very upset about this, the post Workers Union saying, for

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Speaker 2: good AND's sakes, you know, nzy post is just running

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Speaker 2: the whole thing into the ground. This is a shambles.

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Speaker 2: One of them hadn't been emptied for nine months. One

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Speaker 2: woman put her free bowel screening test in there. That

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Speaker 2: is terrible because you know, you're for a.

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Speaker 19: Number of reasons, for a number of reasons.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I didn't think that once it's quite through.

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Speaker 2: But that's bad. You know, that's somebody waiting on some

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Speaker 2: important results. But also equally, if no one notices that

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Speaker 2: a postbox hasn't been emptied for nine months, does that

932
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Speaker 2: not prove that it shouldn't be there in the first place.

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Speaker 2: Two away from eight. You're on news TALKSIB this morning.

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Speaker 2: National public health servances have been firing shots at the government.

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Speaker 2: Bit a tip for tat going on here. They're being

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Speaker 2: accused of overreach and trying to suppress the expertise of officials.

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Speaker 2: The health ministers having none of this, he says that

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Speaker 2: they should. This is the health officials focus on the basics.

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Speaker 2: No more anti car, anti stallholder, anti wonnaker, McDonald's submission, nonsense.

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Speaker 2: Simeon Brown is with me now, minister, good morning, good morning.

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Speaker 2: What sort of carry on do you want to see? God,

942
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Speaker 2: do you want to see them stop talking about the

943
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Speaker 2: environment to stallholders in Nelson.

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Speaker 22: I'd love them to start focusing on our immunization targets

945
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Speaker 22: which are woefully behind, and stop trying to be the

946
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Speaker 22: health police and telling stallholders and Nelson they've got a

947
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Speaker 22: plot up signs saying bring your own cups. You know,

948
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Speaker 22: stop it. Trying to campaign against McDonald's stores in Wanaca.

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Speaker 22: That's not what the National Public Health Service should be

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Speaker 22: focused on. They should be focused on the expertise. We're

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Speaker 22: getting our immunization rates up for our children and doing

952
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Speaker 22: that job rather than being being campaigners on issues where

953
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Speaker 22: actually that's not their job.

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Speaker 2: Go and join Greenpeace.

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Speaker 20: Absolutely.

956
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Speaker 22: I mean the reality here is their job is to

957
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Speaker 22: focus on immunization targets. They to have a promotional and

958
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Speaker 22: educational role around a range of other issues. But their

959
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Speaker 22: job is not to be making submissions on public policy

960
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Speaker 22: matters and making and campaigning against shops which people have

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Speaker 22: to go and need. I mean, I want them being

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Speaker 22: the health service, not the health police.

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Speaker 2: The thing is, though they would argue that this is

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Speaker 2: part of their job, that health. I mean they use

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Speaker 2: the World Health Organization's definition of health, which is a

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Speaker 2: state of complete physical, mental, and social well being and

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Speaker 2: not merely the absence of disease or infirmity, saying to them,

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Speaker 2: ignore the w h O definition, this is outside of

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Speaker 2: your remit.

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Speaker 22: No, what I'm saying is focus on your k missing,

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Speaker 22: which is make sure that our immunization wrapped up for

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Speaker 22: our children, which are significantly under the last government.

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Speaker 20: One of the key roles of the.

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Speaker 22: National public Health Service. It should be immunization of our children.

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Speaker 22: They should focus on that and stop sharing. There is

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Speaker 22: another thing I read from a submission they made to

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Speaker 22: Nelson City Council was that Nowton City council should should

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Speaker 22: ban banned community groups from selling raffle tickets because that

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Speaker 22: might encourage gambling. I mean, this is just absolutely ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Fair enough, it's mad. But you're the Health Minister now,

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Speaker 2: I mean, how many people are on this team writing

982
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Speaker 2: this stuff? Why don't they Why don't you just get

983
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Speaker 2: them all fired?

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Speaker 22: Well, I'm asking them if I'm asking howth focus for

985
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Speaker 22: the basics? Do you expect Well, I'm not. Health Museum

986
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Speaker 22: is going through a process to find efficiencies in their

987
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Speaker 22: back office. They're doing that in this team, and and

988
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Speaker 22: this is one of the teams that has been being

989
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Speaker 22: looked at. But what I would say is, I mean

990
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Speaker 22: those are ultimately operational matters for healthy I'm being very

991
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Speaker 22: clear at my expectations as to what this team should

992
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 22: be focused on, and that is, let's get our immunization

993
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 22: rates back up. Let's not go out there and wage

994
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 22: war against council policies and people's choices around what they eat.

995
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Speaker 2: All right, minister, thanks for your time, Simmy and Brown

996
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: the Health Minister eighteen minutes away from eight Ryan Bridge.

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Speaker 20: Yeah.

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00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 2: I reckon that the Health New Zealand won't be the

999
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Speaker 2: only place where if you're in a corporate role, if

1000
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Speaker 2: you're in a role that's not frontline, the acts is

1001
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 2: coming and it's going to fall at budget time. Nicola

1002
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Speaker 2: Willis has got a look in her own she's sort

1003
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Speaker 2: of looked like she's been sharpening something very sharp and

1004
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 2: is going to make some pretty serious cuts, I think.

1005
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 2: And she has to because, as she said the other day,

1006
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Speaker 2: if you listen to Nicola Willis, she's laying it out

1007
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 2: quite clearly. Ahead of the budget. She has said very clearly,

1008
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 2: our borrowing costs are going to go up. You know,

1009
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 2: obviously we borrowed a ton of money during COVID. We

1010
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Speaker 2: have to service that debt. The debt servicing is now

1011
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 2: more than what we spend on primary and secondary schools

1012
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Speaker 2: and the Ministry of Justice, and that cost is going

1013
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Speaker 2: to go up because of Trump and because of tarism,

1014
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 2: because of uncertainty. Right, So, when you're putting a budget together,

1015
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Speaker 2: you've got expensive debt servicing, plus you've got the potential

1016
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Speaker 2: for you know, economic turmoil and that would mean less

1017
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Speaker 2: tax take and you've got increased costs, and you've got

1018
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 2: your defense you need to pay for. So it starts

1019
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 2: to look very very difficult and the way to get

1020
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Speaker 2: out of a difficult situation is with a knife, and

1021
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Speaker 2: Nikola Willis is going to be doing a bit of

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Speaker 2: that seventeen away from eight News Talk ZB. Coming up

1023
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Speaker 2: before the top of the aarble'll get to Sam Ruth,

1024
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Speaker 2: who is the man of the moment. The key we

1025
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Speaker 2: run are fifteen years old has just broken the world

1026
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Speaker 2: sub one mile for under four minutes.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast, a full show podcast on iHeartRadio

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Speaker 1: power by News Talks.

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Speaker 21: A b.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen away from eight News Talk ZI be Jerome pal

1031
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Speaker 2: this is the fed over in the US. I've left

1032
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Speaker 2: the since the interest right unchanged just in the last hour,

1033
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Speaker 2: but Drome Pale has spoken about what he thinks will

1034
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Speaker 2: happen with inflation after the feed left the right unchanged.

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Speaker 14: Have lesten If you look in the survey world, if

1036
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Speaker 14: you look a little further out, you really you really

1037
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Speaker 14: don't see much in the way of an increase longer

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Speaker 14: term inflections. Inflation expectations are mostly well anchored. If you

1039
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Speaker 14: look at the New York for example, then you have

1040
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Speaker 14: market based and it's the same pattern. You know, people

1041
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Speaker 14: in markets are pricing in in break evens, some higher

1042
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Speaker 14: inflation over the next year must be related to tariffs,

1043
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Speaker 14: we know from the surveys. But if you look out

1044
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Speaker 14: five years or the five year five year forward, you'll

1045
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Speaker 14: see that break events have are either flat or actually

1046
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Speaker 14: slightly down in the case of.

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Speaker 2: The longer term on Drome Pal from the feed leaving

1048
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Speaker 2: the right unchanged. This morning, just going thirteen away from

1049
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 2: eight after eight o'clock, we're going to go to Chatham

1050
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 2: House care Giles is going to break down the situation, well,

1051
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 2: the evolving situation worth Trump and his chat with Putin

1052
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 2: and then his chat was Zelenski and can they all

1053
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 2: actually agree on something? And if they can agree on something,

1054
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 2: what exactly have they agreed to? Interesting story from Doc yesterday,

1055
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Speaker 2: actually two quick little bits of nature related stories. One

1056
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Speaker 2: from Doc saying that dogs are killing Kiwi. They put

1057
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Speaker 2: up some brutal pictures so you don't want to look

1058
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Speaker 2: at them. You know, if you're patriotical you like birds.

1059
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Speaker 2: They're pretty horrendous. Anyway, four of the birds died in

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Speaker 2: just three days between the sixth and the eighth of March.

1061
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Speaker 2: This is up north. This is in fun at a

1062
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Speaker 2: da Bay on the Peninsula January. They reckon dog attacks

1063
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Speaker 2: have killed potentially up to nine kiwi, which is not great.

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Speaker 2: Now are they wild dogs, you know, just rhaming dogs

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Speaker 2: or are they meant to be on a leash? Not

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Speaker 2: quite sure at this state.

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Speaker 9: But worry. I didn't even think we had nine kiwi.

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Speaker 2: We do? We have about hundreds? Oh yeah, what do

1069
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Speaker 2: you think they're that endangered?

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Speaker 9: Well, I've never seen one.

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Speaker 11: Never.

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Speaker 2: They come out at night, don't they do? You go?

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Speaker 9: It's a good point. Actually I don't go out it.

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Speaker 9: I'm too busy ordering milkshakes.

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Speaker 2: On uber eats exactly. Actually, we've got some funny tecks

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Speaker 2: about the uber eat situation. I'll get to those in

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Speaker 2: a second. But anyway, if you've got a dog and

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Speaker 2: you take it for a walk, just put it on

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Speaker 2: a leak because it'll kill a kiwi. And we haven't

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Speaker 2: got many left. As Glenn points out, Ryan, I love

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Speaker 2: uber Eats. I get deliveries that I don't even order,

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Speaker 2: so this must be common, because we've had a couple

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Speaker 2: of ticks about this this morning. This is from Jeff.

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Speaker 2: I didn't order it, but I live in an apartment

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Speaker 2: block and obviously the neighbors have and the delivery drivers

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Speaker 2: just come and dump it and there's no apparently no

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Speaker 2: specific address, so Jeff takes it. Jeff, I think that's

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Speaker 2: cooled theft Ryan. When my son was at Victoria University

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Speaker 2: in Wellington, one of his mates ordered Uber Eats from

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Speaker 2: a takeaway next door to his flat. Go figure, says

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Speaker 2: John nineteen nineteen. The number detext just gone eleven away

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Speaker 2: from eight. Sam Ruth is next.

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Speaker 1: Brian Bridge on the Mike hosting breakfast with al Vida

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Speaker 1: Retirement Communities News Talks had been.

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Speaker 2: Just gone eight to eight. If you haven't heard the

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Speaker 2: name Sam Ruth, you have now. The fifteen year old

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Speaker 2: running sensation from Todong has just become the youngest person

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Speaker 2: in the world to run a sub four minute mile.

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Speaker 2: It all went down last night in the rain on

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Speaker 2: Mount Smart Stadium's number two ground, sneaking in with a

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Speaker 2: time of three fifty eight thirty five. Have a listen here,

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Speaker 2: come Sam Ruth onto the shoulder. Now to fifteen year

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Speaker 2: old Can he be the youngest in the world to

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Speaker 2: set this magic mark?

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Speaker 5: The crowd rules them down the home straight Eric Toomedia

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Speaker 5: Mount Smart Stadium, Sam Tanna's smiling Sam roads right down.

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Speaker 2: He did it and he's with us. Now, Sam, how

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Speaker 2: are you hey?

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Speaker 7: I'm actually really good, really happy at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Why is that wouldn't have anything to do with the

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Speaker 2: race yesterday?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? Yes, from the ras there.

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Speaker 2: Tell me how you're feeling and what you did to

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Speaker 2: celebrate last night.

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Speaker 7: I felt amazing when I cross the line to have

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Speaker 7: all my mates, then all my family supporting me, and

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Speaker 7: then it's pretty late, so our celebration was just a

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Speaker 7: drive through burg King.

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Speaker 2: Was How good was that Burger King? Ah?

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Speaker 7: So good? Like bits Burger King of my life, I'd

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Speaker 7: say so.

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Speaker 2: Three minutes, fifty eight second, thirty five split. Fantastic result,

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Speaker 2: but it was raining. Tell us about the conditions, how

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Speaker 2: hard it was to actually get this done.

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Speaker 7: Oh well, a couple of hours before the race was

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Speaker 7: hammering down and I was getting a bit scared. I

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Speaker 7: was like, oh, hopefully it eases up a bit before

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Speaker 7: the race because I'm like staying on the top of

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Speaker 7: a hotel right now too. So it was real windy

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Speaker 7: where I was, and I was like, oh, no, this

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Speaker 7: isn't going to be good. And then about fifteen minutes

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Speaker 7: before the race, like all the rain cleared, like the

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Speaker 7: clouds went away, and then I wasn't windy at all,

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Speaker 7: so really cleared up.

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Speaker 2: So is the wind the bigger problem than the rain.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, wind's definitely a bigger problem than the rain because

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Speaker 7: rain doesn't really fit you, but one definitely slows you

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Speaker 7: down a bit.

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Speaker 2: You had your pacer there, Sam Tanner, who's the Olympian

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Speaker 2: who everybody knows and loves. He's your training buddy. But

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Speaker 2: you're giving him a bit of a run for his money, now,

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Speaker 2: aren't you.

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Speaker 7: He's got me in any race, to be fair, he

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00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 7: was just it was just cruising that race. He could

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Speaker 7: have done much harder, Like straight after the race finished,

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Speaker 7: he just started doing a fishing. Lovely to have such

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Speaker 7: a good training partner though, like best miler in New Zealand,

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Speaker 7: pacing me couldn't be much better.

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Speaker 2: What's happening with school today, Sam.

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Speaker 7: I'm actually not going to school to Dale. I'll go

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Speaker 7: to school tomorrow. I'm just going to drive back to

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Speaker 7: town today.

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Speaker 2: So you stayed in Augland last night, but you're driving

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Speaker 2: back to Tagan today. I think you can have the

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Speaker 2: day of school, Sam, Tell me about your Tell me

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Speaker 2: about your dream. What's your dream?

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Speaker 7: I don't really think too far into the future, so

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00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 7: my dreams always just just relatively sure into the future.

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Speaker 7: But at the moment it's probably the one Arcadia. So

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Speaker 7: that's on the twelfth of April, and that's that's a

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Speaker 7: big grace in America. So I love to win that.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like there's enough of a community. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you mentioned Sam, but is there enough of a community?

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Speaker 2: Is there enough support for you to go all the

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Speaker 2: way with us?

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, totally, so much support, Like am I community in

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Speaker 7: my community, in my training group, Sampan and hat and

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Speaker 7: water both on it. So it really just guided the

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Speaker 7: pathway for me.

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Speaker 20: Well, I got to do the work.

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Speaker 2: Well, keep doing the business. Sam, Sam Ruth Keebi runner.

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Speaker 2: He has just set a record. Well, he's created a

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Speaker 2: new one. I suppose sneaking in with a time of

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Speaker 2: three minutes, fifty eight and thirty five split. It's just

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Speaker 2: gone four minutes away from eight. Coming up. After eight o'clock,

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Speaker 2: we'll get the latest because there's a bit of phone

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Speaker 2: tag going on between Trump and Zolenski and Pout. No

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Speaker 2: conference call yet, we'll break it down after news news talk.

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Speaker 1: So he's to get there, then let's be him.

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Speaker 2: We can dance. We can dance on that.

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Speaker 1: The news and the news makers. Ryan Bridge on the

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Speaker 1: mic Husking breakfast with the range Rover vi La designed

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Speaker 1: to intrigue and use togs dead b.

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Speaker 2: That's why.

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Speaker 9: There it is.

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Speaker 2: Sorry seven minutes. Oat D eight News Talk said, be

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Speaker 2: great to have your company this morning. We are going

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Speaker 2: to talk war in just a second. Also, I'm going

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Speaker 2: to run you through the Greens call to defund the

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Speaker 2: police in New Zealand. Lord help us. And also we'll

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Speaker 2: take a look at that confidence survey from Wistpact from yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Some really interesting numbers about the regions right now, though

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Speaker 2: we are talking of war. In the last forty eight hours,

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Speaker 2: we had the news of Russia agreeing to a partial

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Speaker 2: cease fire. Basically they said we won't attack any energy infrastructure,

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Speaker 2: and then within hours we had Russia launching drone strikes

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Speaker 2: on said energy infrastructure and two hospitals. Now Trump and

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Speaker 2: Zelenski have spoken this morning. We're two from here. Kirk

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Speaker 2: Giles is a senior expert on Russia at Brittan's prestigious

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Speaker 2: Chatham House and he's with me now. Good morning, Hello,

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Speaker 2: good morning. So what do we know about this Trump

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Speaker 2: and Zelensky call?

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Speaker 21: Well, the problem is we don't know very much about

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Speaker 21: what has really been discussed in any of these calls.

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Speaker 21: You've got this shuttle diplomacy, these three way phone calls,

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Speaker 21: and you get readouts from them that are very different

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Speaker 21: depending on who you're listening to, even Trump's and Putin's call.

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Speaker 21: If you read what to the White House is saying

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Speaker 21: in English and what the Kremlin is saying in Russian,

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Speaker 21: it's as though it was about two totally separate conversations.

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Speaker 21: And of course, bearing in mind, neither of those is

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Speaker 21: a particularly reliable source at the moment, but it's plain

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Speaker 21: they're treating this in two different ways. And then on

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Speaker 21: top of that, you've got whatever Trump has briefed to

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Speaker 21: Zelenski or demanded from him in this most recent conversation.

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Speaker 21: So all of this is really happening behind closed doors,

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Speaker 21: and we can only really guess what has been agreed

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Speaker 21: from what is visible on the outside. There doesn't seem

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Speaker 21: to have been an agreement on even a partial ceasefire

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Speaker 21: that a lot of media seem to have assumed is

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Speaker 21: the case after that first White House readout saying that yes,

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Speaker 21: this has been agreed, and that's partly because, of course,

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Speaker 21: it's given Russia an opportunity, as everybody expected it would

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Speaker 21: to demand more in order to stop the war. So

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Speaker 21: the real question is how much is the United States

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Speaker 21: going to give Russia this time.

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Speaker 2: And how Why isn't Trump playing hardball with Potent like

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Speaker 2: he did with Zelenski.

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Speaker 21: Well, that's a consistent pattern. This is a ceasefire into

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Speaker 21: which Ukraine has been coerced and Russia has been invited.

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Speaker 21: But that goes along with Trump policy all the way,

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Speaker 21: not just to this time around, but also in his

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Speaker 21: first term in office. At every possible opportunity, he gives

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Speaker 21: Russia what it wants, even if it's to the detriment

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Speaker 21: of the United States's own interest. So that is not

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Speaker 21: the surprising part. Trump's often called unpredictable, but this is

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Speaker 21: the one thing in which he has been absolutely rock

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Speaker 21: solid and predictable all the way through. Do you know

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Speaker 21: that he's on Russia side?

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Speaker 2: Why do you think he's doing that? Is that because

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Speaker 2: that trying to You know, they've got a bigger beast

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Speaker 2: to time in China. They can't be at war and

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Speaker 2: hating everyone. They want a resumption of tires with Russia,

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Speaker 2: try and pull them away from China. What's the play here.

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Speaker 21: Well, that's often been put forward by trumpists as the

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Speaker 21: three D Chess explanation for what's going on, so kind

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Speaker 21: of broader strategy that's to do with turning towards China,

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Speaker 21: But of course that's not backed up by any of

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Speaker 21: the actions that the Trump Musk administration are actually taking,

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Speaker 21: because they're knocking away the foundations of US power, not

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Speaker 21: just facing Europe, but also facing elsewhere as well. If

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Speaker 21: they wanted to be strong towards China, they wouldn't be

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Speaker 21: immobilizing Department of Defense, they wouldn't be cutting back on

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Speaker 21: the military, they wouldn't be cutting back on the United

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Speaker 21: States soft power like USAID, Voice of America, all of

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Speaker 21: the ways that Russia can reach around the world and

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Speaker 21: try to frustrate powers like Russia and China. So it

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Speaker 21: just doesn't stack up, and it resembles far more simply

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Speaker 21: curtailing the United States as means of exerting national interest,

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Speaker 21: supporting national interests both at home and abroad.

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Speaker 2: To what the Europeans are going to do in response

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Speaker 2: to this. You know, Germany is up in its defense spending.

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Speaker 2: We've had maloney in Italy trying to do the same,

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Speaker 2: although there's some debate about how much they will spend.

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Speaker 2: Ki Jarles, would you mind coming back in just a

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Speaker 2: few moments, senior expert on Russia at Britain's prestigious Chathamhouse,

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Speaker 2: on this call this morning overnight between Trump and Zelenski The.

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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News.

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Speaker 2: TALKSBB fourteen after eight Kire Jarles is with our senior

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Speaker 2: expert on Russia at Britain's prestigious Chatham House here, welcome back,

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Speaker 2: Hello again, So let's talk about the Europeans and how

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Speaker 2: they respond to all of this. We've had for those

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Speaker 2: who are just joining us, a call overnight between Trump

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Speaker 2: and Zelensky. We're not entirely sure what was said in

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Speaker 2: the call just yet, but the so called deal between

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Speaker 2: Putin and Trump over Ukraine hasn't held because already there've

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Speaker 2: been attacks on infrastructure and on two hospitals. So what

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Speaker 2: does Europe make of all of this and what happens

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Speaker 2: I suppose to the idea of peace when even Trump,

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Speaker 2: who's you know, as you've said's kind of settled themselves

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Speaker 2: closely to position, can't get a deal out of him.

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Speaker 21: Well, he's not trying to get a deal out of him,

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Speaker 21: except in the sense that he's trying to impose whatever

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Speaker 21: Russia wants on Ukraine. And of course that is what

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Speaker 21: Europeans are especially worried about, particularly, of course, those are

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Speaker 21: the frontline states of Russia, because they look at what

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Speaker 21: has been done to Ukraine, they know that they could

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Speaker 21: be next, and they know that the United States, which

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Speaker 21: formerly was the underpinning of NATO, the backbone of this

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Speaker 21: alliance that's supposed to keep them safe, has actually flipped

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Speaker 21: to the other side. So they're scrambling to look for

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Speaker 21: any way that they can salvage. The situation which you've

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Speaker 21: got going on across Europe is inventorization of all of

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Speaker 21: the military power, the military capacity that European states can

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Speaker 21: bring that isn't dependent on US support. And it turns

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Speaker 21: out in some cases that's not a lot, because everybody's

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Speaker 21: assumed perfectly reasonably that they're going to be on the

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Speaker 21: same side as the Americans in the future. Plus, of

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Speaker 21: course around the world, you've also got other countries looking

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Speaker 21: at this, the way that Ukraine has been thrown under

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Speaker 21: the bus, and thinking, well, this could be us next,

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Speaker 21: if we were reliant previously on the United States for

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Speaker 21: our security, if we look at them as a friend

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Speaker 21: and an ally and a partner that was always going

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Speaker 21: to back us up, we need to bear in mind

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Speaker 21: that if we come under attack, the United States might

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Speaker 21: just see that as an opportunity to opportunity to extort

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Speaker 21: from US something in the same way that they have Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, interestingly, Japan has moved some of its long range

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Speaker 2: missiles for exactly that reason. Just a little worried, a

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Speaker 2: little shaky on American support. So what happens now? I mean,

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Speaker 2: how does this end in Europe? If Putin is saying, oh,

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Speaker 2: you know, never accept any European troops basically in Ukraine

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Speaker 2: to help with the peacekeeping or to hold peace in place,

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Speaker 2: and then you've got the Europeans saying, that's what we're

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Speaker 2: willing to offer. We will do this to make it work.

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Speaker 2: They obviously want to have a buffer between each other.

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Speaker 2: How does this end.

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Speaker 21: While Europe is trying to put together what it's calling

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Speaker 21: a coalition of the willing to actually provide for some

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Speaker 21: kind of lasting piece in Ukraine as opposed to this

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Speaker 21: sticking plaster ceasefire that Trump seems to want to impose

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Speaker 21: on it while waiting for Russia's conditions of surrender to

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Speaker 21: be imposed. But of course that's on two conditions that

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Speaker 21: are at the moment are nonsensical. All of the descriptions

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Speaker 21: that we've had of how European troops might arrive in

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Speaker 21: Ukraine to maintain some kind of lasting piece are on

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Speaker 21: two conditions. First of all, US support and secondly Russian acquiescence.

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Speaker 21: Russian has to agree to them being there, while the

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Speaker 21: United States has already ruled out support. They say that's

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Speaker 21: not going to happen, and Russia is never going to

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Speaker 21: agree to it because the whole point of them being

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Speaker 21: there is to frustrate Russia and prevent it from invading further.

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Speaker 21: So at the moment, the conversation, at least as it's

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Speaker 21: happening in the public domain, is a little bit nonsensical.

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Speaker 21: Now tomorrow, our time, already today your time with there

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Speaker 21: is going to be a meeting of military chiefs from

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Speaker 21: across Europe who are supposed to be so called operationalizing

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Speaker 21: this idea, probably putting their heads together and seeing just

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Speaker 21: what exactly they can deliver in terms of military power

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Speaker 21: to meet this political task. That has been set. I

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Speaker 21: doubt very much will hear anything specific about what comes

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Speaker 21: out of that meeting, but there could be some hard

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Speaker 21: truths about just what is actually possible if the United

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Speaker 21: States isn't playing along.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and how quickly that can all happen too, I

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Speaker 2: guess it's quite key. Kre Thank you very much for

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Speaker 2: your time this morning. Really appreciate your analysis. K Charles,

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Speaker 2: senior expert on Russia at Britain's Prestigiou Chathamhouse with us

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Speaker 2: this morning eighteen after eight. I've got some poll numbers

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Speaker 2: on what Americans think of Trump's attacks on the judiciary.

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Speaker 2: and take only as directors. Ryan Bridge, Thank goodness twenty

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Speaker 2: two after eight is all I can say. Thank goodness

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Speaker 2: that the good people of America have voted this way

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Speaker 2: in a particular poll. This is a Nipsos poll, a

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Speaker 2: new one out this morning. So it should be clear

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Speaker 2: to Trump that you don't mess with the justice system.

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Speaker 2: If you are believing this poll, stop attacking it. Basically, so,

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Speaker 2: the poll asked the question, should Trump follow the court's

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Speaker 2: rulings even when they go against him? Eighty four percent

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Speaker 2: of all adults said yes, Harlle lujah. Ninety two percent

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Speaker 2: of Democrats said yes. Obviously, eighty two percent of Independence

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Speaker 2: said yes, and seventy nine percent of Republicans say yes.

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Speaker 2: So overwhelmingly Americans still believe in the rule of law

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Speaker 2: and that, I mean, it's not something you should have

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Speaker 2: to celebrate.

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Speaker 9: But but what if the judges hang on what is.

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Speaker 8: He he's a lunatic?

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Speaker 2: Then it doesn't matter how crazy, how whether the judge

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Speaker 2: lives in an insane asylum, judge is a judge. Ruling

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Speaker 2: is the final twenty three minutes after eight o'clock, Ryan,

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Speaker 2: the Greens you might have seen this for you know

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Speaker 2: the comata are they're calling him the seventy seven year

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Speaker 2: old Dean Whickliffe who was done for murder in New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: being in and out of jail for years and years

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Speaker 2: and years, most famous for escaping twice from perimeter in prison.

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Speaker 2: High security. So much for high security, and how do

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Speaker 2: you do it twice? Like, how do you let the

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Speaker 2: guy who did it once then also do it again?

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Speaker 2: Don't you keep a close eye on him? Anyway, that

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Speaker 2: was years ago. Now he's on a hunger strike and

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Speaker 2: the Greens have met with him, gone to the prison

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Speaker 2: and met with him. I'm assuming the corrections would give

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Speaker 2: some dispensation for MPs to go and meet with them,

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Speaker 2: because I mean, not anyone can. Paul goes to prison

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Speaker 2: and she has come out and said to the minister,

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Speaker 2: you know, he's on a hunger strike. He hasn't eaten,

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Speaker 2: by the way, he's getting fluids, just not solids, but

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Speaker 2: he's on a hunger strike. And Tamotha Paul says, you've

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Speaker 2: got to let him out on compassionate grounds. So all

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01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:48,759
Speaker 2: you have to do is not eat lunch and you're

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Speaker 2: walking out of jail. Basically, I don't know about that.

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Speaker 2: She's also attending, Tamotha Paul has put on her social

1413
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:59,799
Speaker 2: media she's attending a conference or a talk in christ

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01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 2: You looking at alternatives to the police and to prison.

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01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 2: So I mean, not only do you let them out,

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01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 2: but then you just burn the building down behind them.

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01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 2: And who needs it? Who needs prisons? Who needs police?

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Speaker 19: So when you go to prison to visit somebody on

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01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 19: a hunger strike and you're trying to get them out,

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01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 19: do you hide a cake inside a cake?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 9: License to tell dad jokes two licenses.

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Speaker 2: It's quite daddy, Yeah, I don't know. And to be

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Speaker 2: honest with you, but I mean, yeah, it doesn't make

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01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 2: sense to me. If you have a hunger strike, if

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Speaker 2: you've if you've got a point to make, then you

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01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 2: know people should should be able to listen to you.

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01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:38,600
Speaker 2: And obviously ten of the poll's gone in, but that

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean anyone gets to walk out of jail free.

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Speaker 2: And is that the decision a politician should be making.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what are the Greens saying about the interference

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01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 2: we've just been talking about America, the interference of the

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Speaker 2: of government with the judiciary. Twenty five minutes after eight

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Speaker 2: News talks, he'd be bridge. There is a member's bill

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Speaker 2: before Parliament at the moment it's coming up for its

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Speaker 2: second reading and national supporting it. It's all it's labor

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Speaker 2: and Peter Carmela Bealach. It's all about supposedly closing the

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01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 2: gender pay gap. But it would change the rules so

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01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 2: at the moment your employer can say to you, I

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Speaker 2: don't want you discussing your salary with your workmates because

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01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 2: it doesn't suit me. You might talk about it and

1442
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 2: then ask for a pay rise. So they want to

1443
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 2: change this so that it would be illegal for an

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01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 2: employer to put that into a contract. And they say

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01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 2: that the more that would encourage more people to talk

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01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 2: about their salaries, and then the gender pay gap would

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01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 2: somehow miraculously close. Did I don't fill that of the

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Speaker 2: logic personally, But also we don't like doing that, do we.

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01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 2: I was always told being when I was raised. Don't

1450
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 2: tell anyone how much is in your bank account. Don't

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01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 2: tell anyone how much you earn. That is nobody's information

1452
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 2: but your own. So even if you changed the law,

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01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 2: you don't change the attitude of New Zealanders, which is

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01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 2: we just don't. We're not those kind of people. We

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Speaker 2: don't go out there and want to share all that

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Speaker 2: private information. It's like PDA, you know, don't You don't

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01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,679
Speaker 2: french kiss in the streets in New Zealand. You don't

1458
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 2: tell someone what's in your bank account. You don't tell

1459
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 2: someone how much you get paid. You just quietly go

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01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 2: about your business like a good, humble TEAWE, what if.

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Speaker 9: They offered a french KISSI though, will you tell them.

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Speaker 2: How much does it pay? Twenty seven after eight News

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Speaker 2: Talks VD.

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Speaker 1: The only report you need to start your day, Ryan

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Speaker 1: Bridge on the mic, asking breakfast with Bailey's real estate

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Speaker 1: altogether better across residential, commercial, and rural news talk sad B.

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Speaker 2: It is twenty three minutes away from nine. Great to

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Speaker 2: have your company. Mike is away this morning. He's six.

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Speaker 2: So I got the call up this morning and I

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Speaker 2: actually have You'll be quite impressed. I'm eating at the

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Speaker 2: moment some not obviously not right now, but during the

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Speaker 2: ad break, I'm eating some Muslim well that's what it is,

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Speaker 2: with some banana and some protein powder, trying to get

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Speaker 2: those gains. Glenned and was quite lucky this morning because

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Speaker 2: obviously the phone rang and I had to basically just

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Speaker 2: throw some clothes on and come in. But my partner

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01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 2: got up and made me that I thought it was

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Speaker 2: a tub of ice cream. I wish it's not a

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Speaker 2: tub of ice cream. It doesn't taste like a type

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Speaker 2: of ice cream, that's for sure. But I'm quite lucky

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Speaker 2: to have somebody.

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Speaker 9: You can't get gains from a tup of ice cream,

1483
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 9: can you?

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01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 2: Well? Really, you can't game and gain black fat.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you specific about what you wanted to gain.

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Speaker 2: Does anyone want to gain fat? I don't know. Hey,

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Speaker 2: very quickly, I'm going to take you through some Aukland

1488
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:54,639
Speaker 2: council business. That sounds boring. Let me rephrase that who cares?

1489
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:58,560
Speaker 2: Who wants to go through organ council business? There's freebes?

1490
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 2: Are they all corrupt? How's that?

1491
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 21: So?

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01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 2: Fifteen of twenty Auckland councilors got freebes from eden Park

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01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 2: in the last fifteen months. They've been given things like

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Speaker 2: free tickets to Pink, to Coldplay, to Travis Scott, to

1495
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 2: Luke cohmbes, to the All Black Tests, to the Super

1496
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Speaker 2: Rugby Games, you name it. These guys have been on

1497
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:24,640
Speaker 2: the gravy train. The question now is are they impartial

1498
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 2: or are they compromised? Are they bought? Auckland councilors got

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Speaker 2: a big decision to make whether they throw their weight

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Speaker 2: behind revamping Eden Park or do they throw their weight

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Speaker 2: behind this stadium down on the waterfront. So the question

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Speaker 2: is are they compromised by a few free tickets to

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Speaker 2: some concerts? I don't know. I would find it hard

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01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:50,680
Speaker 2: to think that that would sway you one way or

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Speaker 2: the other. I guess it depends how cheap you are.

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Speaker 2: The only counselors who did not accept eden Park freebes

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Speaker 2: were Julie Ferry, who's Michael Wood's husband, and I Actually

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Speaker 2: I don't know whether they didn't accept free bees or

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Speaker 2: weren't offered free bees, and you know, well maybe you'd

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Speaker 2: be wondering whether she's bringing the husband alf Philippina has

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01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 2: not had any, Mike Lee has not had any, and

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Speaker 2: Sharon Stewart has not had any. Apart from that, they've

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Speaker 2: all been on the tape apparently twenty one minutes away from.

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Speaker 18: Nine International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of

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Speaker 18: Mind for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 2: Rod Little is with us, our UK correspondent this morning. Rod,

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning to you. So we've still got

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Speaker 2: four kiss problems with these benefit cuts.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, we have.

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Speaker 11: In what many took many people by surprise, given that

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01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 11: laborers always vowed never to cut benefits. The party has

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01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 11: suddenly realize that we have a benefits bill which is

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01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 11: simply unsustainable. And everyone knows this, and I assume the

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01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 11: labor left wingers who opposed the trades to the benefit

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01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 11: cuts know it as well. But it's very difficult for

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01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 11: Lake to get through with its own people. Undoubtedly it

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01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 11: undoubtedly as the backing of the Conservatives and probably most

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Speaker 11: of them Lib Dems, but it's caused internal party problems.

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Speaker 11: For sukir Stana, the Benefit secretary Liz Kendall had a

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01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:21,840
Speaker 11: meeting with one hundred MPs before the debate and they

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01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:25,560
Speaker 11: were very hostile to her. Now, during the debate, in

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Speaker 11: which Kendall that announced plans to save five billion quid

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01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 11: by twenty thirty, which frankly is a drop in the

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01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 11: ocean of our benefits expenditure, she was roundly abused by

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01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 11: several labor MPs. One of them was Diana Abbott. I

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01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 11: think so long as she's it's people like Diane Abbott,

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01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 11: who's on the far left of the party, then it

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01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 11: kind of doesn't matter. But I've been speaking to some

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01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 11: more moderate labor MPs on the soft left of the

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01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 11: party and they too are very unhappy about it. Quite

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01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 11: see why we've got to cut our benefits bill, You know,

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Speaker 11: we really do.

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Speaker 2: Bunny, you mentioned Diane Ebbittt. We've actually got a bit

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Speaker 2: of audio here from her. So she's basically standing next

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01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 2: to the Boss and the House and here's what she sees.

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Speaker 5: Could we have less of this rhetoric about his five

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01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 5: billion package of disability benefits, so called reform being moral.

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01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 2: This is not about morality.

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Speaker 5: This is about the Treasury's wish to balance the country's

1550
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 5: books on the back of the most vulnerable and poor

1551
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Speaker 5: people in this society.

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01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 2: The problem is, you've got to balance the book somehow,

1553
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 2: don't you.

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Speaker 11: Rod Well, Diane doesn't think so, and she's never thought so.

1555
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 11: She lives in a land of fantasy and delusion, and

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01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:00,080
Speaker 11: she always has done. And as I say, it's as

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01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,719
Speaker 11: long as the complaints are kept to her and people

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01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 11: like her, then I don't think about the moral point

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01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 11: she raises. So she's so obtuse. There is a real

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01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 11: morality to this, and it's one which plays very, very,

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01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 11: very very seriously with labor voters. They do not those

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01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 11: labor voters who do the right thing, who go to work,

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01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 11: who save money, who work all the hours of God's sends,

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01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:31,080
Speaker 11: and then see their next door neighbors lounging around doing

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01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:34,440
Speaker 11: nothing because one of them has been diagnosed with ADHD

1566
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 11: or something. You know, it infuriates the voters, and a

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01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:42,719
Speaker 11: partfuly infuriated the voters voters. Of course, it also recks

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Speaker 11: the country.

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Speaker 2: If we can't anymore, no exactly, and no one talks

1570
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 2: about the reality of taking on a whole bunch of

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01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 2: extra debt, the cost of servicing that. I mean, this

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01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 2: is what we're finding out here. It's all very well

1573
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 2: to say, yeah, I'll spind this and be the good person,

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01:20:57,840 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 2: but someone's going to pay the bill.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, and I say yeah, I think we're all all

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01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 11: of us in the Western world. By Western world, I

1577
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 11: mean the advanced world, who have become accustomed to these

1578
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 11: huge welfare payments and suddenly our populations are expanding. We're

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01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 11: becoming more latitudinous about who we have given these benefits to.

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01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 11: Back in the day, when I was, you know, fifteen sixteen,

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01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 11: to be disabled meant you had one leg, you know,

1582
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 11: or something close to that. It didn't mean that you

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01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:32,440
Speaker 11: suffered from anxiety.

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Speaker 7: Do you know what I mean?

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01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 11: It's changed.

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01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Hares and COVID's helped the along. Now what's

1587
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 2: the reaction being like your way to the last forty

1588
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 2: eight hours? Really but we've had the Trump potent call

1589
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 2: and then we've heard the Trump Zelenski call. What's the

1590
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 2: UK sign?

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01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 11: The UK is keeping pretty quiet at the moment. I

1592
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 11: think Kasakis Dama, to his credit, has played a blinder

1593
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 11: throughout this by managing to keep on side with the Ukrainians,

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01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:04,680
Speaker 11: the Europeans, and the America Cans. I think given the

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01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 11: kind of talking which we're hearing from Ukraine that it

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01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 11: seems as if that two hour conversation went very well,

1597
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 11: indeed with Donald Trump. I still there is still some

1598
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:22,720
Speaker 11: annoyance in this country, particularly on the left, but I

1599
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 11: share it as well, the notion that Putin is being

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01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:29,720
Speaker 11: forced to do nothing. You know, I have yet to

1601
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:34,640
Speaker 11: see a single concession that Putin is being asked to me.

1602
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:37,680
Speaker 11: And if we continue along that track and we get

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01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:40,640
Speaker 11: to a piece deal which sees Ukraine carved up and

1604
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 11: not allowed to have European peacekeepers, not allowed to join NATA,

1605
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 11: et cetera, et cetera, where is the break put on

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01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 11: Putin's ambitions.

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Speaker 2: I just don't see it, not the meaning, Rod, Thank

1608
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 2: you for that, Rod, Little UK correspondents accorded to Nine

1609
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,639
Speaker 2: News Talks, it'd be I've actually been in the same

1610
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 2: room as Vladimir Pusin before, and I can confirm for

1611
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 2: you that he is as tiny as he looks on TV.

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01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:09,679
Speaker 2: He came up to my chins, just a little wee

1613
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:13,560
Speaker 2: little man. And I couldn't understand why this was in Vladivostok,

1614
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 2: at an APEX summit that then Prime Minister John Key

1615
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 2: went to he couldn't understand why he would have such

1616
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 2: big bodyguards when you're so little, because they make you

1617
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:27,720
Speaker 2: look tiny. Anyway, that's Potin caught it apparently calling the

1618
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 2: shots on this whole seasfire deal. Now two quarter to nine.

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01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:34,880
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1620
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01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 2: Twelve minutes away from nine. The bad news this morning.

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Speaker 2: Not only is the ceasefire precarious ceasefire over the Ukraine

1623
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 2: sort of coming apart at the at these seams, but

1624
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 2: also the ceasefire and gars are coming apart at the

1625
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 2: seams as well. So now the Israeli military has said

1626
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 2: that it's launching a targeted ground activity, so we're back

1627
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 2: boots on the ground back into Gaza. There was the

1628
01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:05,719
Speaker 2: aerial bombardment yesterday. They say it is a targeted ground

1629
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 2: activity partially aimed recapturing a key area in the territory.

1630
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 2: But this is not good news, not good news for

1631
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 2: ceasefires across the board this morning. It's just gone eleven

1632
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:21,000
Speaker 2: away from nine. Ginny Anderson was on the show yesterday

1633
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 2: with Mike on the what day is it today? I

1634
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 2: feel a little discombobulated. It's Thursday today, so yesterday must

1635
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 2: have been the pollies. So Ginny Anderson was on with

1636
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:34,719
Speaker 2: the pollies with Mike yesterday and just gave an assurance,

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01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 2: So don't worry, Labour's not going to go changing everything wholesale,

1638
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:40,599
Speaker 2: changing everything if they get back into government. Have a listen.

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01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 23: New Zealanders are tired of flicking back from one thing

1640
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 23: to the other.

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01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 21: Yes, every three years.

1642
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 23: Yes we have some fundamental ideological problems, but it's also

1643
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 23: important that we keep making progress as a country. And

1644
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:55,559
Speaker 23: we're just going to be helped back if we keep

1645
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 23: flicking back and forwards. So if there's a big project

1646
01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 23: that's in play, that working okay, and there's some good

1647
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 23: things here, we're not going to undo it.

1648
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 2: So one of the issues that was raised was charter schools.

1649
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 2: People saying okay, well, great, now that charter schools schools

1650
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 2: are being established, now that they're back in business and

1651
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 2: Labor's not going to throw the baby out with the

1652
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 2: bath water, then fantastic good news. Ginny. Great announcement on

1653
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 2: Mike's show yesterday that oh no, no, no no, they've

1654
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 2: had to walk all of us back. So the Labor

1655
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 2: Party spin people have come out reconfirming that they would

1656
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 2: have in fact abolished charter schools if elected to power again.

1657
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 2: This is in the Herald this morning, off the back

1658
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 2: of Mike's interview with Finny yesterday. So just a little

1659
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:42,680
Speaker 2: loose with the lips maybe, I mean, really we do

1660
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 2: like them to talk about being bipartisan and you know,

1661
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 2: let's keep this motorway going or let's keep this program going.

1662
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:49,559
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, they are different

1663
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 2: parties and they are going to have to do something

1664
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 2: differently otherwise they're just one and the same, aren't they.

1665
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 2: Nine minutes away from nine News Talk Sebi.

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01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 1: Ryan Bread on the Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real

1667
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:03,480
Speaker 1: Estate News Dogs.

1668
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 2: D ten forty five this morning. That's not the time

1669
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 2: right now. That's when we'll get our GDP number four

1670
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 2: quarter four last year, ten forty five this morning. We're

1671
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 2: hoping it's going to be positive. We've been in the

1672
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 2: doldrums for a long time. In fact, the last two

1673
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 2: quarters were our worse since nineteen ninety one. Outside of

1674
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 2: COVID and COVID we were all carried through by huge

1675
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 2: sums of debt which we're now having to kindly repay.

1676
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 2: So it's been bad. We hope it will get better.

1677
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:31,840
Speaker 2: We will know more at ten forty five this morning.

1678
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:35,679
Speaker 2: It has just gone now six minutes away from nine trending.

1679
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 1: Now we're Yemma Swells keeping Kiwi's healthy all year round.

1680
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 2: Remember when I asked you at the start of the

1681
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:45,440
Speaker 2: show if you were sick of Pedro. Pascal Apple apparently

1682
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 2: is now also banking on the fact that you aren't.

1683
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 2: In fact that you love him, he starts in their

1684
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 2: new ad for EarPods four. The trick around these ones

1685
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 2: is in its active noise cancelation. Have a listen.

1686
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 9: He wasn't, so he hasn't turned on the AC yet.

1687
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 2: So Pike Jones has directed this. They've done a clever

1688
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:34,639
Speaker 2: We add Pedro living in two worlds, one with noise

1689
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 2: cancelation and one without. Obviously, the first part you were

1690
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 2: listening to was without the noise cancelation. This is the

1691
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:42,440
Speaker 2: beautiful sound of noise cancelation.

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Speaker 19: And the cool thing about this is what they've done

1693
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 19: is they've shot somehow They've dressed up all these dances

1694
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:55,080
Speaker 19: in this ad and costumes that have two halves, so

1695
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 19: one half is sort of drab and boring and the

1696
01:27:57,200 --> 01:28:01,760
Speaker 19: other half is all sort of colorful, And so they're

1697
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,160
Speaker 19: standing all at the angle facing the camera depending on

1698
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 19: which part of the air that you're cool idea?

1699
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:08,639
Speaker 2: Am I describing that? Clearly?

1700
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 18: You know you are?

1701
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:09,600
Speaker 1: You are?

1702
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 2: You making perfectly see so the choreography.

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01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 19: As Pedro Pascal walks fast them, they will spin around

1704
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 19: and suddenly the world becomes more vibrant and colorful.

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01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 2: It's a great idea. How much did it cost them

1706
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 2: to make? It's five minutes long. I can only imagine

1707
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 2: how many millions of dollars were spent on that. But

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01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 2: obviously we're talking about it, so you must have done

1709
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 2: something right. I heard, and don't quote me on this

1710
01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 2: and don't sue me for it, but that noise canceling

1711
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 2: headphones can make you go not deaf, but can affect

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Speaker 2: your hearing quite badly because you can no longer place

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01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:46,800
Speaker 2: where sounds are coming from. Everything is canceled. You're living

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01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 2: in a bit of a hole. Your head's undersand can

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01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:52,400
Speaker 2: it fixt your hearing, especially for kids who have grown

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01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 2: up with noise cancelation.

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Speaker 9: While then they need to go to the next level up.

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01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 9: We have a spatial awareness and so that has the.

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Speaker 19: Head tracking technology, so as you move your head, the

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Speaker 19: sound keeps coming from the direction that it was.

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Speaker 2: That's where we go from. Goodness, all right, go and

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Speaker 2: watch the Pedro Pescal video. Apparently it's very good, even

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Speaker 2: if you ask sick of them. Three minutes away from

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Speaker 2: nine News Talks, he'd be Carrie is with you next.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully Mike could be back with you tomorrow and feeling

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Speaker 2: much better. I'm Ryan Bridge. Have a fantastic day, LXI.

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