Speaker 1: This is the flavor podcast network.
Speaker 2: Island Roots Auckland Ways. This one's for the Brown brothers
Speaker 2: and sisters who want to be one with themselves, their culture,
Speaker 2: their identity, their roots. This is Island Roots Auckland Ways. Hi.
Speaker 1: Everyone, welcome back to Island Roots Auckland Ways.
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, girl, I need to knows off Mike that
Speaker 2: I was going to sing, but now I've gotten all shy.
Speaker 2: But my favorite okay guest.
Speaker 1: Today is the Western.
Speaker 2: Guide Coach West, Big Shrimp Neighborhood, A man of many
Speaker 2: titles and names, but you all know him as the
Speaker 2: Western Guide. One of my favorite songs is ride Home,
Speaker 2: and I'm just thinking about how embarrassing it would be
Speaker 2: right now if I did actually try and sing the chorus.
Speaker 2: So that's so I don't think I will. You can
Speaker 2: go streaming on Spotify, though, and here's the chat. Hey everyone,
Speaker 2: welcome back to another episode of Island Roots Book. We
Speaker 2: are so so so excited to have this steeved. I
Speaker 2: want to be like, I don't think I'm quite at
Speaker 2: the energy level today, but it doesn't honor to have
Speaker 2: everyone's favorite cowboy and Evandale legend, the Western Guy joining.
Speaker 1: Us in the studio.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me religion, you know, thank you
Speaker 3: to the hood.
Speaker 1: That's assive.
Speaker 2: I don't know much about Evandale, but I know the
Speaker 2: Errands from the only people I know from Evan.
Speaker 3: There's honestly so many people from.
Speaker 1: Sorry, can we just pivot to before we started recording.
Speaker 1: We were in a meeting of the studio and suddenly
Speaker 1: someone goes, oh, who's that cowboy?
Speaker 2: And I was like, that's our cowboy. I mean to
Speaker 2: record on outdat.
Speaker 1: I look up at the window and then i see
Speaker 1: Aaron cowboy hair on and I'm like, oh, ships about
Speaker 1: it every day?
Speaker 3: No, it's so much. I mean, I was like, I'll
Speaker 3: just I was just nice and low key. I have
Speaker 3: normal hat. You know what we want to I'm going
Speaker 3: to show them.
Speaker 1: Yes every episode, Aaron? We wait? Can I can I
Speaker 1: call you eron?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: What's the.
Speaker 2: Coach with? You have so many names?
Speaker 3: Very what everyone? It's fine?
Speaker 2: Are you sure?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 3: Maybe just actually coach, We'll go coach?
Speaker 1: What started coach? Actually? What started coach?
Speaker 3: I'll be honest. When we were doing morning Check, we
Speaker 3: just didn't want to call myself like my tour or
Speaker 3: like producer. What's a really interesting, you know.
Speaker 2: Cool and coach.
Speaker 3: Just came coach because I was coaching them through like radio,
Speaker 3: because obviously I'm the ya wow.
Speaker 2: He is somebody, well coach.
Speaker 1: Every episode we share what we love about home, So
Speaker 1: whether that's we currently live, where you were born, where
Speaker 1: you feel grounded, we ever feels like home, what is
Speaker 1: it and what do you love about it? We'll start
Speaker 1: off first. I think what I love about home this
Speaker 1: week is how many parks there are around me.
Speaker 2: Oh right, yes, sorry, I thought you met car parks.
Speaker 1: Oh, there's a shortage of car parks, which is why
Speaker 1: I have crashed my car many times. But recreational, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm serable at driving. But actually, let's not shine. I
Speaker 1: mean that comedy set. Just yeah, I love how much
Speaker 1: greenery there is around my area. We've got a few
Speaker 1: parks and they all hold special memories, like the one
Speaker 1: closest to my house is like the local to all
Speaker 1: our family, so like whenever there was a Smith's Easter
Speaker 1: with jamming, volley or basketball there. One of the other
Speaker 1: parks is where I played soccer for a while because
Speaker 1: I did that in primary school. The other is where
Speaker 1: you know, we used to drink in our school, Like,
Speaker 1: it's just you know, special memories attached to the parks
Speaker 1: around me. That's what I love about her. How about you?
Speaker 2: I love that mine is a little bit trivial. I
Speaker 2: love celebrity Treasure Island favorite's I dream to go on CTI.
Speaker 2: And now that it's back, I'm sure by the time
Speaker 2: this episode comes out, it might have already finished already
Speaker 2: and we'll know who the winner is. But what are
Speaker 2: your recons of the season At the moment, I can't
Speaker 2: say it's too early.
Speaker 3: Three people I hate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, three people right now?
Speaker 5: Very well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's also my mum's favorite TV show, So like,
Speaker 2: if I'm home on a Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday night,
Speaker 2: it's just a nice chance for to like connect. So
Speaker 2: I love ct I. But more than that, I love
Speaker 2: hanging out with my mom. Yeah she's really lame, but
Speaker 2: I love my mom. I love living with her. So yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what I love about Home.
Speaker 3: What about you, Coach Home Home is one of those ones,
Speaker 3: you know, this is kind of I've kind of been
Speaker 3: in time my whole life. I think this year, specifically,
Speaker 3: the journey of figuring out exactly where home is has
Speaker 3: been kind of a big question. I think, you know,
Speaker 3: because I'm Simon and of course some more is the
Speaker 3: motherland here obviously I'm what everyone is. But you know,
Speaker 3: back home we'd be. But I think when I think
Speaker 3: about Tomak, because that's you know, where I'm living at
Speaker 3: the moment. What I love about it. It's actually just nature.
Speaker 3: Like one of my favorite motorways or highways of State
Speaker 3: Highway twenty. You're coming down from like west into the
Speaker 3: city and there's just that big body of water right there.
Speaker 3: And I've been lucky enough to travel to different countries
Speaker 3: and I just every time I drive that specific mon
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, it's so good to be home, well.
Speaker 2: Proving away from home. You recently went to l a
Speaker 2: coach with a group of pastiki creatives. Can you tell
Speaker 2: us what that experience was, Like, I mean, off, Mikey
Speaker 2: sbout what it might not be like, but like how
Speaker 2: enriching was that experience?
Speaker 3: It was actually really good. And I remember when I
Speaker 3: was approached for it, I was just like on my
Speaker 3: balcony staring at the moon and I get a phone
Speaker 3: call from Xav and He's like, Hey, I really need
Speaker 3: to ever talk to you. So I'm thinking, oh shit,
Speaker 3: I must have done something because we had just finished
Speaker 3: a show on the VIN and I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I must. You know, whenever you hear like hey we
Speaker 3: need to have a conversation, we have a chat, damn it.
Speaker 3: So I pick up the phone call. It's like, hey, look,
Speaker 3: we're going to go to America and we think it'd
Speaker 3: be great if you come along. Wow, So here's me
Speaker 3: in like my very just yeah, we're going to go
Speaker 3: partying and just have so much fun. That's all I
Speaker 3: thought about. I'm going to eat so much food.
Speaker 1: Yeah that you guys are going to l a.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: We were actually doing quite a bit of work. So
Speaker 3: we're really fortunate to my bro Xavier for setting that up.
Speaker 3: You know, we're with quite a lot of people. You know,
Speaker 3: we had Lena, we had Van Skis, we had Frank.
Speaker 3: You know, we had took a whole different variety of things,
Speaker 3: and I think it was just cool to showcase Alter
Speaker 3: all over there.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: It was an interesting thing we did where we were
Speaker 3: like trying to figure out a song to sing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and we're like, oh, should sing a Mouldi song because
Speaker 3: you know we're from all But then the conversation was
Speaker 3: like what there is no one and here's actually molded.
Speaker 3: We all actually sund more on tongue in you know,
Speaker 3: different like, but that's that's where we're from. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: so I think it's fine that we can represent as
Speaker 3: well as well as you know, being somemon tongue and stuff.
Speaker 3: So I think it was really cool that Americans just
Speaker 3: they loved it. They're like, wow, oh my gosh, you
Speaker 3: guys talk so great and so great. So it was
Speaker 3: really like eye opening. I think here in all we
Speaker 3: tend to just feel like, oh no, they're better over there,
Speaker 3: They've got cooler stuff over there, But actually, whendn't go
Speaker 3: over We're actually really you know, we're really talented down here,
Speaker 3: and I think we need to tell ourselves that more.
Speaker 1: Yeah. How was it to be inside the Water Music
Speaker 1: Group building because that's just wow?
Speaker 3: Yeah wow. They didn't actually hit me till I was
Speaker 3: like walking through. You can probably see a lot of
Speaker 3: executives walking around. Yeah, this is real. Actually we got
Speaker 3: to sing there as well, know, so the opportunity honestly, again,
Speaker 3: it was it was really cool to be there and
Speaker 3: share the stage and share the space of you know,
Speaker 3: other creators, you know, especially Brianna and this is our
Speaker 3: home crew with what their messages and then also us
Speaker 3: just being there was amazing.
Speaker 1: Did you have in and Out in LA?
Speaker 3: You're my honest opinion, in and Out.
Speaker 2: Please, because yeah, the double double and animal style.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone might be canceled for this and the dogs.
Speaker 2: To be honest, I heard this because one of my
Speaker 2: best feriends is Americans, but she lives here, she studies here.
Speaker 2: She's saying, like, in and Out is a lot like
Speaker 2: what we have here already, because everything else. The reason
Speaker 2: it's so like revolutionary to Americans is because these like
Speaker 2: real food, Like it's like real food, you know, whereas
Speaker 2: the other takeaways it's not real food. Yeah, so like
Speaker 2: for us, it's probably just like substandard, I guess.
Speaker 3: So I don't care. I don't want to say dog
Speaker 3: shick because that's dog my first three bides. I was
Speaker 3: like that, like, you didn't get the sauce. So I
Speaker 3: got the sauce, and I was like, Okay, the sauce
Speaker 3: makes it bitter, but I wouldn't like run out of
Speaker 3: my way to eat and then out every day. It's
Speaker 3: really good though, So I don't know that'story about the place.
Speaker 3: I don't want to, you know, hating them too much.
Speaker 1: Because Americans don't like that.
Speaker 2: What else did you eat over there? Raising canes is
Speaker 2: at a.
Speaker 3: Thing we didn't get to try. I really wanted to,
Speaker 3: but no one wanted to go. So we had Chick
Speaker 3: fil A obviously. Yeah, chake check probably one of my favorites.
Speaker 2: I've had lots of good things about Shakeshack.
Speaker 3: But I think the number one thing I ate in
Speaker 3: l A was the Mexican tackles streets and you have
Speaker 3: to get to like a street windor so we were
Speaker 3: just like it was like warm up. There was just
Speaker 3: like a couple of trucks outside. So we're just like
Speaker 3: pulled up and like, yeah, we'll just get a couple
Speaker 3: of these and that was great change my life. Almost
Speaker 3: cried because they give they give me mixed coach as well.
Speaker 3: It's like a different formula.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's in a glass and everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: They were getting really frustrated because I wasn't speaking like
Speaker 3: Spanish because.
Speaker 1: They thought, look Spanish, get.
Speaker 3: It, you're over there. Terrible. They were just speaking to me,
Speaker 3: the ladies.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2: I am someone.
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry. It was I should learn some more Spanish.
Speaker 1: Just for that, I feel that that Xavier didn't see
Speaker 1: us as well. We are also creative. We can sing,
Speaker 1: we can dance. Like so, coach, you've been making seeker
Speaker 1: music for a while, But what prompted this pivot to country.
Speaker 2: Music because is a big ever kind of R and
Speaker 2: B empty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the pivotic country was a mixture of a lot
Speaker 3: of things, heartbreak being one of them, and alcohol problem
Speaker 3: being another one. Damn No, I think country for me,
Speaker 3: I've I've listened to country for a long time, not
Speaker 3: like hard out like I am now, but you know,
Speaker 3: we we kind of just it's been in our lives
Speaker 3: for a long time. And I think recently I because
Speaker 3: I've been writing for my it's really important, Like even
Speaker 3: my running back, all of those stuff. I always try
Speaker 3: to make sure I use like some sort of some
Speaker 3: one words because at the end of the day, we
Speaker 3: want to make music that the world will listen to,
Speaker 3: but we still need to have a little stamp of
Speaker 3: who we are, you know. So the further I went
Speaker 3: down their journey of trying to figure out, Okay, what
Speaker 3: is music to me? What is someone music to me?
Speaker 3: What do they listened to back in the days it
Speaker 3: took me slowly back to country, you know. And so
Speaker 3: when I started writing in country, it felt way more natural,
Speaker 3: you know. And I think some people do say, and
Speaker 3: this possibly me, but country is like a struggle sort
Speaker 3: of genre. You talk about your struggles a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And when you think about like the old school five
Speaker 3: star stuff, it's just their guitars and their stories, you know.
Speaker 3: So for me, I think once I started doing that
Speaker 3: trying to think of the stories that are about me,
Speaker 3: which at the moment it's all like other love stories
Speaker 3: or heartbreak. I'll probably get to a song about something
Speaker 3: more soon. It just felt natural.
Speaker 2: So yeah, when I think of my favorite country music,
Speaker 2: it's all storytelling. Like I think of songs like Goodbye
Speaker 2: Earl by the Chicks or like the Night the Lights
Speaker 2: Went Out in Georgia by like Reaba. They tell like
Speaker 2: this whole story, and you almost you have to listen
Speaker 2: to the whole thing to catch all of it because
Speaker 2: there's like plot twists and like all of this kind
Speaker 2: of stuff. I love to hear like a narrative story
Speaker 2: from you, something like like a Night the Lights Went
Speaker 2: Out in Georgia, where it starts off with like a
Speaker 2: murder and then you find out who did it?
Speaker 5: So cool, this is what I need from you?
Speaker 1: And what was the support like to your switch to country.
Speaker 3: At the moment, I've been really lucky that everyone's really supportive.
Speaker 3: There's me in like two or three comments like you're
Speaker 3: not about that life, and I'll be honest, I'm not,
Speaker 3: like even like, I don't really go out on my
Speaker 3: way to call myself a cowboy, because that's a title
Speaker 3: that belongs to cowboys, right, Like, I think the title
Speaker 3: that I use is just I'm a country music singer
Speaker 3: because I make country music at the moment, and I
Speaker 3: hope too for a long time. But at the moment,
Speaker 3: it's because it's it's just my my audience is here in,
Speaker 3: you know, so it's all just like, yeah, we love it.
Speaker 3: It's different, you know. And then you have the likes
Speaker 3: of mister Cowboys, so it's you know, he's already really
Speaker 3: successful and you have a lot of other people coming
Speaker 3: up too, so it's it's a bit more well received.
Speaker 3: But I assume in the years to come, you know,
Speaker 3: it's the American audience or the wanting overseas that I
Speaker 3: have to you know, not convinced, but they'll probably be
Speaker 3: the ones to give me a bit of issue. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but at the moment it's been great.
Speaker 2: I feel like you kind of soft launched the country
Speaker 2: career with that viral video a little more humble than that.
Speaker 2: Did you always like that? Was that the plan, like that,
Speaker 2: I'm going to make this, hopefully people take notice of
Speaker 2: it and then start to go into country.
Speaker 3: So I think the first country cover I did was
Speaker 3: like two thousand and nineteen. Oh was me and Bonti.
Speaker 3: Facile was just like we try to make it sound
Speaker 3: R and B. It was really great. I loved it.
Speaker 3: So I just had this thing of like, I'll just
Speaker 3: cover country songs just here and there. So I had
Speaker 3: a song called running Back, produced by Astro who want
Speaker 3: a PMA by the way, So we had a song
Speaker 3: coming out and I hadn't been on social media for
Speaker 3: a while because I was just being a dad for ages.
Speaker 3: So I was like, Okay, I need to put up
Speaker 3: a cover and I was listening to that song for itch.
Speaker 3: So that song is by a guy named Eastern Corbyn
Speaker 3: and the original song is called a little More Country
Speaker 3: than That. So I'd listened to that on the way
Speaker 3: to work and every time we said country I'll say, Humble,
Speaker 3: just quickly write it, check it on Instagram. It will
Speaker 3: be funny as Yeah, I dropped that and Hummel like
Speaker 3: went like this and run it Back was kind of
Speaker 3: just like hidden.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize they came out at the same time.
Speaker 3: So I dropped Humble on Instagram on like Wednesday, and
Speaker 3: they running backdropped on Friday, and no one remembers run Back,
Speaker 3: but also like running Back, but.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that it came out at that time.
Speaker 2: It was like a retrospective.
Speaker 3: It was just like it was so hidden, and I
Speaker 3: felt bad for Esher the time because I was like,
Speaker 3: we were working on this and then Humble came out.
Speaker 3: I was like yeah, and I didn't even try very
Speaker 3: hard with that, so to be honest, I remember.
Speaker 2: I just threw it on TikTok and I was like,
Speaker 2: this is.
Speaker 3: The q accent, I'll be honest. Other than the q accent,
Speaker 3: it didn't sound very nice, you know, so I had
Speaker 3: to put the twang on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's hard. Well have you gotten used to it
Speaker 1: as a well as a professional actor.
Speaker 3: By the way, it is actually hard because we we
Speaker 3: have a like really distinctive accent and all so when
Speaker 3: you're trying to musket in the song as I have
Speaker 3: to go back and re record like certain words and
Speaker 3: vowel sounds. So but I think the longer you do
Speaker 3: or the better you get at it, for sure.
Speaker 1: Can we talk about acting? So, Inky Pinky Punky was
Speaker 1: just massive, huge, like I can't even talk to like
Speaker 1: how many kids were talking about it, Like out on
Speaker 1: the streets, I'd walk past groups, They're all watching it.
Speaker 1: And we had JP and Nucky in the studio and man,
Speaker 1: that blew up. So how did you get involved with
Speaker 1: that project? Did you envisage going into acting like that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been acting for a while. Actually, I think
Speaker 3: I was an actor before a musician.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that came first.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Also shadowt White.
Speaker 2: Sunday, I was.
Speaker 3: So many times ago it's not fair, but no, it was.
Speaker 3: It was really cool Inky specifically, I think Nucky approached
Speaker 3: me or someone from the fresh team. They approached me
Speaker 3: because I was doing heaps of dumb stuff on TikTok,
Speaker 3: being like the red flag trend. You know, we're being
Speaker 3: a little a problematic, and then hey, look we have
Speaker 3: this character that we think could do. You think you
Speaker 3: do really well? So when I auditioned for it, I
Speaker 3: didn't hear back for a while and they're like, yeah,
Speaker 3: well you got it, you got it, sweet, you do it.
Speaker 3: So the whole process of just filming Inky, I wasn't
Speaker 3: sure to expect to be.
Speaker 1: Honest, like yeah, well you never do really, and then
Speaker 1: it's out there, it's getting perceived, and then it just
Speaker 1: clocks like a million views.
Speaker 3: Now I'm just that person, like because when I meet people,
Speaker 3: they're just like Demetrius.
Speaker 2: The person sitting in front of us looks very very
Speaker 2: different Demetrious.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they still see it, and so they kind
Speaker 3: of like, I think, especially like the three four months
Speaker 3: after it was released, Yeah, they just thought I was
Speaker 3: that dude.
Speaker 2: Was that kind of overwhelming because Demetrius is not super nice,
Speaker 2: He's like.
Speaker 3: A walking Yeah. I had to do a bit of
Speaker 3: method acting for the ice to wake up the morning
Speaker 3: and like look and like, yeah, you're.
Speaker 2: That guy, bro, and he's still like that, so you
Speaker 2: had to be.
Speaker 3: We had a running joke on set that I wasn't acting.
Speaker 3: So they're like, it's great because I don't do a
Speaker 3: lot of retakes, so I would like do a think yeah,
Speaker 3: cool finish, And I was like, was that all right?
Speaker 3: They're like, yeah, so that's how you know.
Speaker 1: You must have been drawing that from somewhere. But I'm
Speaker 1: very grateful for.
Speaker 3: Inky, you know, and I know that story is very
Speaker 3: like important for a lot of people out there. So
Speaker 3: I was just glad to be a part of that.
Speaker 3: And yeah, it's kind of what I'm really well known for,
Speaker 3: to be honest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, people must be surprised to go into your Instagram
Speaker 2: and they're like, oh, Frank, he's a country singer.
Speaker 3: You take what you get.
Speaker 2: So when you introduce yourself, do you say you're a
Speaker 2: musician first, because you're also like a radio host and
Speaker 2: an actor and then also a dad, Like what is
Speaker 2: the thing that you used to be? Like I'm the
Speaker 2: Western guide, I'm I.
Speaker 3: Just say hi, Yeah, I'm like high, how's it going?
Speaker 3: I don't think, I think, because I do so many
Speaker 3: different things, it's kind of hard to just be like,
Speaker 3: I'm only a country singer a musician, so I don't
Speaker 3: really really say.
Speaker 2: I love that, but not like putting yourself in a
Speaker 2: box that's really important.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I've always believed in that, and I
Speaker 3: think that's why the genres whiches have been kind of so,
Speaker 3: you know, because I've always told myself that I don't
Speaker 3: want to be defined to a genre a little bit
Speaker 3: like how Chris Brown does whatever genre he wants and everyone.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think it's cool for us to just
Speaker 3: try different things. If it works, it works. If it doesn't,
Speaker 3: then up to you. If you like it, then no worries.
Speaker 2: I love the bottom of the video, it's so good,
Speaker 2: as I do love all the videos you made with
Speaker 2: Tara Patch. What's it like to work with the creative
Speaker 2: team like that because it feels like they really get
Speaker 2: you truly. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think first and foremost, I got to thank
Speaker 3: my brother Samson Rambo. That's where the connection came from.
Speaker 3: So me and Samson were like, we're broader, so we
Speaker 3: were like, hey, let's do this idea. I went to him,
Speaker 3: I was like, I really want you to direct this
Speaker 3: music video, which is save Her Mine, and so he's like, cool,
Speaker 3: leave with me. I'll get a team together. And so
Speaker 3: him and Teresa Tereslowe also she she produced seving My
Speaker 3: They went away and then they came back. They let
Speaker 3: me just focus on being an artist, but they kind
Speaker 3: of gathered that whole team. You know the title Patch Team,
Speaker 3: and that's where I initially made it one of mine.
Speaker 3: So it was just really cool to be amongst him
Speaker 3: because they just they just get it, really get it.
Speaker 3: I honestly, when we were see I was like, look out,
Speaker 3: just leave with you guys. I'll just whatever you want
Speaker 3: to do, just thought. So when I saw the setups
Speaker 3: so sever mine for the first time, I was like
Speaker 3: losing my marbles, Like, yeah, sea was everywhere, and then
Speaker 3: there's the water thing. I was like, okay, cool. And
Speaker 3: so when we when we finally came around to bottom
Speaker 3: of the bed, so Ista, the director, I was just
Speaker 3: at the title pat as a joke, like I think
Speaker 3: I was just hanging out and she's like, hey, let
Speaker 3: me do a video for you. I thought she was joking.
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, whatever, you know, we'll do it,
Speaker 3: and so she took that idea. We got the funding
Speaker 3: and then I'm pretty much you know, shot at Esta
Speaker 3: Vera Rachel as well, who produced it. They kind of
Speaker 3: did the whole thing. They have all their context pulled everyone.
Speaker 3: I'm so grateful because you know who am I I'm
Speaker 3: just like, you know, just a little kid from.
Speaker 2: Stalk together someone.
Speaker 3: Thank you so it's cool, and I honestly want to
Speaker 3: work with them, Like for every music video realistically, you've
Speaker 3: got to, you know, try different people and stuff. So
Speaker 3: I probably won't do that because I just keep approaching
Speaker 3: it and watch more work. But yeah, no, I love
Speaker 3: the title Patch and I feel like if you haven't
Speaker 3: worked with them, or if you haven't been in the space,
Speaker 3: just go there. It's great.
Speaker 2: You know, the space is amazing. Hey, it is so cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so cool. I see it pretty much every
Speaker 1: day because I go to the gym upstairs.
Speaker 2: I had there my model, So you were a tiny
Speaker 2: part of that. Because you're I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3: I'm like the little ship of the title Patch. Here
Speaker 3: he is blood love my total Patch family. Shout out
Speaker 3: to the muff Little sisters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, incredible people.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel like also, your name always pops up from
Speaker 2: people's like thank yous on like Instagram questions. I'll just
Speaker 2: be scrolling and my friend friends will be like, thank
Speaker 2: you so much at the Western guy for helping me
Speaker 2: with us. Do you like, do you actively like I
Speaker 2: can help you with that? Or do people approach you
Speaker 2: for that kind of thing?
Speaker 3: Oh? I think it's just whoever's around sometimes people ask
Speaker 3: me for help, and if I can help, I will.
Speaker 3: If I can't, I'll maybe point them in the right direction.
Speaker 3: I do sometimes say yes and then forget, and then
Speaker 3: people are like, hey, you're supposed to help me all this.
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, man, I was asleep terrible replying to
Speaker 3: people too, But yeah, no, I don't.
Speaker 1: I thank god that he came here.
Speaker 2: So it was an email, yeah.
Speaker 3: Because I was like, oh, I'd better like say something
Speaker 3: really like proper, because I don't want to be like,
Speaker 3: oh sorry, I'm actually like flat out right now. So
Speaker 3: I was trying to think of either the real casual
Speaker 3: approach all the real like that was very I was
Speaker 3: on a conversation with my manager, so for context, we
Speaker 3: was listening. I was asked to come on earlier on
Speaker 3: in the year, and so I was speaking to my
Speaker 3: manager at that time. I think we're getting ready to
Speaker 3: film Bottom of the Bed. I was like, there's a
Speaker 3: lot of things going do we have the capacity to,
Speaker 3: you know? And so we decided maybe not right now
Speaker 3: because there's too many things going on. It was like, okay,
Speaker 3: so how do I say like no but very politely.
Speaker 2: I've never such a.
Speaker 1: Like of like you were about to say.
Speaker 3: Some as well. I like wrote out like a drifts
Speaker 3: into my manager and she was like, let me write
Speaker 3: it for this cool and so I sent that out
Speaker 3: and I saw as I was flying, I was like, damn,
Speaker 3: I should have taken it stuck right now, thank you
Speaker 3: for inviting.
Speaker 2: I'm so grateful. I'm so grateful that you took the
Speaker 2: We get before we get into our rapid fire. We
Speaker 2: want to know what's next for Coach West.
Speaker 3: Honestly, usually I have an answer for this when I
Speaker 3: want to have this question, but I think lately it's
Speaker 3: kind of been I don't know. That's a.
Speaker 1: That's a.
Speaker 3: It's kind of a great area right now. There's a
Speaker 3: lot of things I've said I want to do, but
Speaker 3: now I'm like, do I want to do that? You know,
Speaker 3: I've been saying I was going to do a EP
Speaker 3: this year, and the more I write, the more I'm like, actually,
Speaker 3: I should probably like wait off because I kind of
Speaker 3: want to put a little bit more if a little
Speaker 3: bit more time, you know.
Speaker 2: So do you see yourself creating like a body of work,
Speaker 2: like a debut album or something. Liking the little single?
Speaker 3: So sure, I think obviously like the industry will tell
Speaker 3: you like don't do an album or EP until again,
Speaker 3: like you need it, Like when people we need more,
Speaker 3: we need more. But I think when you're in a
Speaker 3: space and you're writing, like right now, I'm in country,
Speaker 3: so I'm trying to like write out finding that my
Speaker 3: writing is changing as I'm like making more music. So
Speaker 3: like something I wrote a couple of months ago to
Speaker 3: me now so like, ah, it's a bit old too.
Speaker 3: So I think what's next is just to keep writing,
Speaker 3: get on the pharone a little bit more, just spend
Speaker 3: time being a dad. I think that's like my favorite
Speaker 3: thing to do is just hang out with my kid. Yeah,
Speaker 3: to get a karate recently, it was so fun. Oh,
Speaker 3: I'm like I want to do this's great. I think
Speaker 3: I think it's just that, I think just allowing myself
Speaker 3: to just live in my moment, like just you know,
Speaker 3: live life a little bit and not to be so
Speaker 3: worried about what I got to do, what's coming up next,
Speaker 3: what's like to get to the stage I'm going to
Speaker 3: do this. This This is just like you know, what
Speaker 3: if it if it comes to me, it comes, it
Speaker 3: comes to me.
Speaker 1: Such a wonderful answer.
Speaker 2: We don't chase. We attract very absolutely very so if
Speaker 2: you're there.
Speaker 1: The email. All right, let's move on to our rapid
Speaker 1: fire came now, Coach. This one's called wist is Best.
Speaker 1: So we are die hard.
Speaker 2: Die hards outside west Side novices, don't know anything.
Speaker 1: Literally don't know anything about were stalking like another world.
Speaker 2: From west Side on. We were in Newland. That was terrifying.
Speaker 2: No shady west Side. That was just not a good night.
Speaker 3: But that's like that's a thing though, because growing up,
Speaker 3: whenever I'd go south, I feel like it's a whole
Speaker 3: different thing.
Speaker 2: And you know the suburb names, but you don't know
Speaker 2: how they connects, Like really, what is it like? Disc know,
Speaker 2: like when you're like disorientated.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there I say it, There I say it. But
Speaker 3: growing up, you know this is not just me by
Speaker 3: the way, this is what was put on to me
Speaker 3: as a kid. We will talk that west Siders are
Speaker 3: better than south Siders. You know, up until I was
Speaker 3: about maybe thirteen, I was like, hold on, what the same?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we are quite.
Speaker 3: Growing up, we like how much?
Speaker 1: So yeah, this gave us called wiss Best. So we
Speaker 1: want you to tell us the best places out for
Speaker 1: these three things. First things. First food we should we
Speaker 1: go to for food out with.
Speaker 3: That's a hard one. There's so many places. Again, it
Speaker 3: comes down to like it depends, like what do you
Speaker 3: feel like you have a lot of new feudoints have
Speaker 3: opened up recently out you know, it's like, what's.
Speaker 1: The best place out west for views?
Speaker 3: Oh damn, just drive around anybody who's like born and
Speaker 3: raised in himself if you know where to is. There's
Speaker 3: a little look out there where they usually lock the
Speaker 3: gates after you can see the sky tower and.
Speaker 1: Can't okay, it's.
Speaker 2: Not someone taking no no, no no, someone's taking me
Speaker 2: to mission by no, no no, just for a walk.
Speaker 3: And I felt and seeing some things.
Speaker 1: That no, no, no no.
Speaker 3: I want to put it to do with Bubba. It
Speaker 3: was the first time I met her. She was a
Speaker 3: little bit scary back then, you know, from celebrity, so
Speaker 3: she was kind of in her like real rebellious stage.
Speaker 3: And we're hanging out, we're trying to do a podcast together. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and she's like, I'm just get for a drive and
Speaker 3: drove me out to pok and were sitting at the
Speaker 3: car and this car comes up like on the road
Speaker 3: in the and I like locked the door straight away
Speaker 3: and she starts laughing. She's like, you scaredy cat. This
Speaker 3: guy is scaredy And I was like they were just
Speaker 3: they wanted to light her, That's what they wanted. She
Speaker 3: was like, I cannot believe you just locked the doors.
Speaker 3: You racist, and like.
Speaker 2: This episode is going to cancel you. Yes, I was.
Speaker 1: I was young.
Speaker 3: Out there. It was funny, but I always remember that reason.
Speaker 3: I was like, damn it, Bubble. She'll probably tell that
Speaker 3: really shame me for it.
Speaker 1: But Buba's another person that we tried so hard to get.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just doesn't. She just doesn't reply tonything. She's
Speaker 3: terrible reply to my messages.
Speaker 1: Lastly, beast place out for fun, Like where's a nice
Speaker 1: recreational place like pools or somewhere to play sports.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think people might say West Wave,
Speaker 3: you know, but West Wave pools, But I think I
Speaker 3: think it's important to just say Past Park. Everybody knows
Speaker 3: Past Park, you know. It's it's kind of ey, that's
Speaker 3: kind of our big park that we have, like touch
Speaker 3: the random people just jump up on the field and
Speaker 3: play touch together and then comps used to be there
Speaker 3: as well. The football fans. They have their like soccer
Speaker 3: fields there. So I think past Park is like the
Speaker 3: that's the spot. It's the spot for fun. What do
Speaker 3: you say? Yeah, aside from the other sort of fun
Speaker 3: things that we do, like hang a bar, but we
Speaker 3: won't get into that.
Speaker 1: Because I hang up is that and Henderson?
Speaker 3: I think that's that's one of the only like main
Speaker 3: bars that's been around for ages.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's really wholesome fun.
Speaker 3: What's sort of funny?
Speaker 2: No no, I didn't actually know what type of fun
Speaker 2: bear because he did the game that's your fun, and
Speaker 2: I was like, fun.
Speaker 1: Fun, what's like to play around?
Speaker 3: That's that's very like vague playing around.
Speaker 2: It's also very vague. Isn't groove by out west or.
Speaker 1: There's like Mount Eden cross the road from Eaton Park?
Speaker 1: Sorry the groove.
Speaker 2: It's just because it's on the western line. I can't drive.
Speaker 3: I can't drive, so use both can't It's just like
Speaker 3: a non driving show.
Speaker 2: I have no license, no drive.
Speaker 3: I was driving on no license for three years.
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, like I got any car and like
Speaker 2: it's not good, like a phobia. It's like a phobia
Speaker 2: a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no, I'm really interested.
Speaker 2: So I went to school in Central but live and
Speaker 2: brought up out South, so always public transport and then
Speaker 2: I only drove a car for the first time maybe
Speaker 2: like a month ago. They go over ten k's. I
Speaker 2: think the max I went was thirteen k What was teifying? Yes,
Speaker 2: it was terrifying, Like some people are like that.
Speaker 3: I want to be supportive, but it's okay.
Speaker 2: You don't have It's okay because people always meet me,
Speaker 2: they're like, wow, you you're you have a master's but
Speaker 2: you can't drive. And I'm like, Rick, what would they say?
Speaker 2: Because like very very intelligent, but the one thing that
Speaker 2: you can't do is drive a car.
Speaker 1: That's really in the school though, like you don't need
Speaker 1: to drive in today's world, like we have Uber and stuff.
Speaker 2: Like that, but it's so expensive.
Speaker 3: Just try like real small.
Speaker 2: That's a really good idea.
Speaker 4: Ride a bike, okay, two wheels to three wheels?
Speaker 2: What's the three wheel a trike?
Speaker 3: I think it trikes like five wheels or something.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, no, I think that does three wheels, like
Speaker 1: you have two training wheels at the bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, but I really hope you get over that
Speaker 3: much fun. It helps, like with like when you're just
Speaker 3: down sometimes late night truly yeah, and then you just speed.
Speaker 3: I mean okay, I think there's two words belong together.
Speaker 3: It'll be good.
Speaker 2: Okay, make it, thank you take it. This is my
Speaker 2: new content now that the podcast is even. Then drive
Speaker 2: do you want to be the first? And we have
Speaker 2: to use your car as well? If you're the gift,
Speaker 2: it's also your.
Speaker 3: Car the first and last of course.
Speaker 2: Wait, how did you learn how to drive? Did someone
Speaker 2: teach you?
Speaker 1: Hell?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Almost crashed. It was my dad's work car. He
Speaker 3: thought it would be funny. Were new Lin by the way,
Speaker 3: new We're in the car park where Burger King. It's
Speaker 3: the old cinemas, which so I get in the car
Speaker 3: and when I driving and it's like yeah, now put
Speaker 3: your foot down, and I just froze and my foot
Speaker 3: was like on the floor and went straight for liss
Speaker 3: and to like jump over like albow and the star
Speaker 3: because I just froze. And then you had to like
Speaker 3: put his hand on the brake.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 3: And this was the door for like Lismos and no
Speaker 3: way one of the barrier things.
Speaker 2: And I was like a raid Lismo.
Speaker 3: My dad said so many lovely words that day and
Speaker 3: I didn't want to drive.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize when you go to break you don't
Speaker 2: just put your foot down at once, like like it.
Speaker 1: You have to like.
Speaker 2: To keep your foot on the.
Speaker 3: You don't just pretty square on the.
Speaker 4: Driver.
Speaker 1: I like that you can get that rich Oregon.
Speaker 3: Just learn how to drive a big car. I learned
Speaker 3: how to drive in a van because after that smoker,
Speaker 3: I learned how to drive driving anything, and then you
Speaker 3: start when you drive smaller cars, it's a lot easier.
Speaker 2: I feel like, being country, you should be able to
Speaker 2: drive a manual? Can you drive a menu?
Speaker 3: Did you do your research on this? Because I always
Speaker 3: get asked this question. Wait, reason I can't drive a manual?
Speaker 2: And that's totally fine because I can't drive period.
Speaker 3: I remember I told them I went down and saw
Speaker 3: this farm and Raglan and he's like, can you drive manual?
Speaker 3: And I was like, and he's like, what the fuck?
Speaker 3: You can't be country? You're not drive? Yeah, someone wants
Speaker 3: to teach me, please, because I want to race and
Speaker 3: I love out my Need for Speed dreams.
Speaker 1: I love Need for Speed. By the way, it was,
Speaker 1: it was such a time. I love that game. What
Speaker 1: was your favorite Need for Speed?
Speaker 3: Underground, underground to yeah, underground to the white Mercedes with
Speaker 3: the blue neons, blow the car a little bit, had
Speaker 3: some side skirts and you have you have to have
Speaker 3: the Japanese like riding on the side.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't get the reference. I'm so sorry, guys.
Speaker 2: What is need for speed?
Speaker 1: It's a two game.
Speaker 2: But I was playing like head on.
Speaker 3: The World Tour, so you're like, let's pay Brackett stolen.
Speaker 2: Buzz.
Speaker 3: The first time I played, I was.
Speaker 2: Like, this is so played the head on tenor game.
Speaker 2: Or I was playing sing styles and I would always
Speaker 2: get a million in the climb.
Speaker 3: So where is the you know, the fruits of your
Speaker 3: labor christ witting.
Speaker 2: And sitting in a memory card. No, but you know
Speaker 2: she faked her country accents like the first five years
Speaker 2: of her career. So the twang, it's okay that it
Speaker 2: doesn't come naturally.
Speaker 3: You have to work for it.
Speaker 2: You have to work for it.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: And now she's a billionaire. So that'll be you one day,
Speaker 2: even though your circumstances are very, very very different. I
Speaker 2: think that will be.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm a white girl yea with my guitar.
Speaker 2: Blonde hair. Born in Reading, Pennsylvania, investment bankers.
Speaker 3: This is a little bit creepy, Loder. Those Hollywood tours
Speaker 3: that we did, they were like taking us to celebrities housing.
Speaker 3: This is a news house. These poor people like live
Speaker 3: their lives and this is real creepy.
Speaker 2: I am a Yeah. I went to Melvin for a
Speaker 2: concert this year and everything it was good, it was incredible.
Speaker 1: And saying that is Island roots Auckland Ways with the
Speaker 1: Western Guy. Thank you so much for coming on.
Speaker 3: No, thank you for having me here, and thank you
Speaker 3: for the platform, thank you for your time.
Speaker 1: You know where? Can we follow you on social media?
Speaker 3: Okay, please only follow me on social media and that
Speaker 3: follow me around the mall because that's really creepy and
Speaker 3: it happens a lot.
Speaker 2: I those Westfield Monico or the.
Speaker 3: Westfields, the Western Guide. I love city, it's home.
Speaker 2: We're getting wait wait wait, wait, hold on wait question.
Speaker 2: Where does the name of the Western Guy come from?
Speaker 2: Just from growing up out.
Speaker 3: West Yeah, it kind of started like that. Yeah, before
Speaker 3: Western Guid, I was my artist name was fifth three. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it sounds really crazy. I went to enter fifth free
Speaker 3: Rockstar and my I G but it didn't save so
Speaker 3: it cut off halfway. So I just I just rolled
Speaker 3: it that for ages and then I remember puttying nextor
Speaker 3: came out and I go, what a dick, why would
Speaker 3: you Why would you call it such an elaborate name.
Speaker 3: I'm going to do that. What's what am I? I
Speaker 3: live out West. I know a lot of like secret spots,
Speaker 3: you know, So I was like, I'm just I can
Speaker 3: show you around the West. That means so much more.
Speaker 3: But back then that's where it started from. Now I like,
Speaker 3: you know, tell people, it's kind of a journey into
Speaker 3: like figuring out exactly who I am and what I am.
Speaker 3: You know where we're from. We're obviously children of the diaspora. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so that's where the wistern. It's like Western society journey.
Speaker 3: Over the years, I've built like I'm more understanding, like
Speaker 3: I've actually chosen the right name, and now I'm doing
Speaker 3: country like because country wisdom. Yeah, but yeah, it was
Speaker 3: just because the party. Hey party, if you're listening, body
Speaker 3: checks the song. All right, thank you so much for
Speaker 3: coming on, Thank you again, appreciate you.
Speaker 1: And that's Island Roots Auckland Waves for yet another week.
Speaker 1: You can follow us on the socials and Island Roots
Speaker 1: Aukland ways And you know what, I just realized you.
Speaker 2: I think we kind of it was implied though. It's
Speaker 2: at the Western.
Speaker 1: Guide, at the Western Guide on Instagram the things.
Speaker 2: So go look him up, listen to his music, and
Speaker 2: listen to our podcast Big Shrimp his.
Speaker 1: Name, Damn city Side, Bobby boy Man, get out of
Speaker 1: here with all your nicknames. Thank you Coach for coming
Speaker 1: on yes, and.
Speaker 2: Thank you guys for listening.
Speaker 1: Chat later by