1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:00,440 Speaker 1: Fellas. 2 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,719 Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Yes, good morning. 3 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: Okay, we've got the virtual Director media screen up popping 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: up on our phone system. Anyway, I'm a sham. I 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: can't get guy because do you know what this is? 6 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: Andrew asked Guy where he finished in the golf tournament 7 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: he played in on Friday? 8 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: And was the golf tournament? Did you say where did 9 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: he finish? 10 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: Where'd you finish? 11 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: Guy? 12 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 3: I was a guy was part of the winning team 13 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 3: on Friday. 14 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: Guy was referring to himself as third person. 15 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 3: And he looked at Thorough Readers Association Golf Day, part 16 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 3: of the social racing team. We shot five under off 17 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 3: the stick and we won. 18 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: We played and so in in teams golf, don't they 19 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: take they dropped the worst score, it counts for nothing. 20 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 2: So you did nothing? 21 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 3: No incorrect, Andrew, there's where you're wrong. Firstly, Ambrose, so 22 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 3: you all hit off the tea and then you all 23 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 3: head off the next shot, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. 24 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 3: You have to take four t shots from each person 25 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 3: and then the last two obviously can be from anyone. Yeah, 26 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 3: so yeah, makes it makes it slightly easier that you 27 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 3: essentially get four shots, four chances at the same shot. 28 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: What was the course. 29 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 3: At Clark's Beach out out south Southway? 30 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: Would you describe that as a Lynx course? Uh? 31 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 3: Semi lynxy, I suppose out out beach area. I wouldn't 32 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: say it's a traditional Lynks course, but it's semi linksy. 33 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 3: It's a really, really nice course. It was in great 34 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 3: nick and isn't isn't that the call for money? 35 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 2: Isn't that the course with that couple were photographed? 36 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 3: Is that course? Andrew? The sixteenth? Oh? 37 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: You rushed, You're rushed out there to see if you 38 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 2: can send now, just to see, just to. 39 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 3: See the terrain and see what it was like. 40 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, good stuff. 41 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: So this was on Friday? 42 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 3: Was it correct? Yeah? 43 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: Well for the job. The job now entails trips to 44 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: the Melbourne Cup, the odd appearance at race meetings and 45 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 2: boozy golf dates. Is that the job these days? 46 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 3: And it's much and it's much better than sitting next 47 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 3: to you. 48 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: I can see, right, let's deal with Andrew. You're at 49 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: your first and we'll move it as quick as peranara 50 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: right or wrong? Yes or no, big deal or not. 51 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: Look, I don't have a major personally, I don't have 52 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: a major with it. Look, TJ. Petinada has always fronted 53 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: on his heritage. He's always been strong in his beliefs, 54 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: whether it's on social media, where it's and interviews and 55 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: Mike so often from a reporting point of view, so 56 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 2: often we complain that these guys are robots and they 57 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: say nothing. So I don't think you can have it 58 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: both ways. However, I think you've got to draw the 59 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: line somewhere at least. Apparently he went to management and 60 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: the players knew about it, and the management knew about it, 61 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 2: didn't spring it on yep. 62 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: What's your view going? 63 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 3: I think that last point is fairly pertinent, that he 64 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 3: didn't just go and do it himself. I'm slightly different. 65 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: I think, as say said, TJ. Peinada has always spoken 66 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 3: up for his beliefs, and I think on the whole 67 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 3: or every other time, he's done it very very well, 68 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 3: and he's done it in the right way. I'm not 69 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: overly comfortable within I'm not up in arms about it, 70 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 3: but I'm not sure. The hucker, something that's been a 71 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 3: tradition for over one hundred years for the All Blacks, 72 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 3: has kind of been something that's globally recognized. I don't know, 73 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it, a recognized thing that 74 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 3: they do before the game. I'm not sure that's the 75 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 3: right place for it, particularly in the day and age 76 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 3: where players have their profiles on social media all that 77 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 3: sort of stuff where they can put out their beliefs, 78 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 3: whatever it might be. I'm just not sure the Huck 79 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 3: is the right. 80 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: Place for his actions have become passed. But yeah, his 81 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: actions have become bigger than the game, and I think 82 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: that's where. 83 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: I think it's a shame it's taken away. 84 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: From, but it was always going to from. 85 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, from it's taken I think there's been an overreaction. 86 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: Look again, personally, I don't mind it. It's taken away 87 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: though from Sam Kaine's last game. It's taken away from 88 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: the fact that the All Blacks had an ordinary performance. 89 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: That's that's that's also key as. 90 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: Well, do they have an ordinary performance Andrew because they're 91 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: a bit bored and they're looking forward to coming home. 92 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: And it was only because we are actually quite good. 93 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 3: No. 94 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 2: No, you're playing off the back of those three giant 95 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: weeks in London, Dublin and Paris. You've got one foot 96 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: on the plane. No, matter what the players say, I 97 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 2: think the back of their minds, you know, they're looking 98 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: forward to the beach of the fig and break or 99 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 2: whatever they want to do, and that and that plays, 100 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: and apparently it was very very cold and very very 101 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 2: damp and slippery, which might have contributed to some of 102 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: the drop ball in some of the ears. But I 103 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 2: just it looked like a jaded sort of performance. 104 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: It's almost like it's a winter sport, really, isn't it 105 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: a little bit a little bit wet and a little 106 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: bit cold. Yeah, I was disappointed. I had that vibe 107 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: about it that you have sort of turned it on 108 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: specifically to watching you thought, that's a shame. Where where guy? 109 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: To us? 110 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: I mean, Sam kin is part of his problem is 111 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: he's not a personality, is he? And I think you 112 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: know when you look at all black captains and you 113 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: look at the you know, the obvious ones, then I 114 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: just can't work out where he sits in the grand 115 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: scheme of things. 116 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 3: I think part of Sam Kaine's problem, and it's not 117 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 3: Sam Kaine's problem, but part of how we might look 118 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 3: back on Sam Kaine's career, or how we look back 119 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 3: on it now, is that he had to follow straight 120 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 3: after Richie mccaugh exactly, who is as an absolute you know, 121 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 3: our greatest, arguably our greatest All Black of all time. 122 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 3: Sam Kaine is an excellent player, a very very good 123 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 3: player who has played over one hundred tests for the 124 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 3: All Blacks. You're not You're not a bad player. If 125 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 3: you play over one hundred tests for the All Blacks, 126 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 3: not many people get to do that. So I think 127 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: we should look back on his career as one of 128 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 3: the best. He's not he's not Richie mccaugh. With respect 129 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 3: to him, he's not a Richie mccaugh, but he is 130 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 3: an excellent All Black. 131 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: What's you view on Sam kin Andrew, Yeah, I'm please 132 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: ask me, Mike. 133 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: I think, bottom line, he's outstanding bloke. I've always got 134 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: on with him well and despite what's been said and 135 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: written about him, particularly on socials, up for that World 136 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: Cup when he was sent off, I think he was 137 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: an outstanding player. You look at that Irish quarter final 138 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 2: when the All Blacks one at the World Cup, he 139 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 2: was he was amazing, outstanding defensively. He's always been more 140 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 2: of a defensive type player and this guy said he 141 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: had to follow on for Ritchard mcaurt, who was on 142 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 2: a hiding from nothing. But for me, the bottom line 143 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: is always approachable, always willing to chew the fat, and 144 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 2: just a bloody good bloke. 145 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: Good tell me either of you why I was watching 146 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: yesterday the Phoenix play Melbourne in Sydney in front of 147 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: a crowd of no one. 148 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 2: There's no one there. I didn't realize it was in Sydney. 149 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 2: It was it was hot about thirty degrees. Wasn't that 150 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: they were taking water breaks? Not hot there there? Well, 151 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 2: when it's hot, when you're it's hot when you're running 152 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 2: around playing football. 153 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: I saw the sign at the I thought, what, there's 154 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: something not right here. First of all, this is a 155 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: big stadium, because I think Melbourne played a different stadium. 156 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: I think where is this And so it turns out 157 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: at Eli End and it's in Sydney, and I can't 158 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,679 Speaker 1: work out why Melbourne team and an Auckland team playing 159 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: Sydney and they've surprised. 160 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 2: Me more kiwi's. Maybe they thought they'd get more kiwis 161 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: to And then afterwards the name it was stupid. 162 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 3: It wasn't a part of like their equivalent. 163 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: It's not like a magic round, is it is there? 164 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: Any magic of no one's around in forest? Is the 165 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: magic there if no one's there? 166 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 3: Asar from the NRL, I think sports have to give 167 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 3: up on that. 168 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: Just yeah, the NRL makes the work. No one else does. 169 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: It's too random. But I mean, now, listen, let me 170 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: ask you this thing. Guy, does the fact that the 171 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: Phoenix and Auckland are now the top two sides in 172 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: the comp mean the sport is somehow going to be 173 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: transformed in this country to something bigger than what it 174 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: has been to this point or pondering. 175 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 3: I was actually pondering that when I saw the table 176 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 3: myself after that had won, and I asked myself that question, 177 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: and I still don't know the answer. 178 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: Did you refer to yourself in the third person when 179 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: you asked yourself that question? 180 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 3: I did not. 181 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: I thought them myself, Guy, what does guy make? Bloody? 182 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: Muhammad Ali Shutter. 183 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 3: I think it's got something to do with the growth 184 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 3: of football in this country. And I think that's slightly 185 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 3: evident by the numbers that have turned up to the 186 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 3: Auckland f C games and the Phoenix in Orkland. You see. 187 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 3: I believe play again very soon, maybe even next week's 188 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 3: time in Auckland and You've got to wonder that in 189 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 3: Auckland particularly, they'll probably get a very good crowd to that. 190 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 3: They're out top of the table. I think the first 191 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 3: team in a league history to have won its first 192 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 3: four games or something like that. 193 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: And no one scored against them yet. Now, next question, Andrew, 194 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: in their debut season they win the title, does that 195 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: make them a Hellburg winner? 196 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 2: M certainly certainly good nomination. 197 00:08:55,200 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 3: Not this year? Why because I think the black Caps 198 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 3: winning his series three nil in India and then probably 199 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 3: some of. 200 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: The islands, that's that's well, it's not a title. You 201 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 1: just won a series. That's not a title, a title 202 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: beach series. 203 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 3: No team in cricket had, even in cricket had ever 204 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 3: done that. 205 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: Ever, well, no no football side ever entered a competition 206 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: and won the first year either. 207 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 3: I think there's a difference. 208 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: I reckon if you're a judging channel, you'd be the 209 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: weak link. 210 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 2: As he was sitting on the judging panel, Mighty, where 211 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 2: he's guy, make of this? Who would go? 212 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 3: Clearly I wouldn't be the weak link because Andrew several 213 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 3: agrees with me. 214 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: I think you'd hey, Mike, look, football's always had booming 215 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: numbers male and female at lower levels. Right, it's massive 216 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: at junior level. But I think there's always been a 217 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 2: drop off, like a lot of sport. But now that 218 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: they have two shop windows, pathways kids kids and pathways 219 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 2: to operate off. Make it to the phoenix, make it 220 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 2: talk and they've seen may be spotted by Premier League 221 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 2: team or a team from Europe or whatever. But you 222 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 2: know this this giving this is giving kids pathways a 223 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 2: little like basketball these days, which is booming. There's a 224 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: pathway to a possible college scholarship and pro team. You 225 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: know there is the pathways exactly. 226 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 227 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: Hey, I read an article of Joe Schmidt right and 228 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: he's only contracted to the end of the lines to 229 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 1: and he's asking himself very much like you asked you 230 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: get yourself guy. He'll be going, Joe, do I sign 231 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: on to the World Cup? What should Andrew? What should 232 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: Joe Schmidt do? 233 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 2: I think he should? Yeah, I think that gives him 234 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 2: a lot more time with this Wallaby team. We've seen 235 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: what he's already done in a short space of time, 236 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 2: despite massive protestations and an uproar in Australia. I think 237 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: he's done very rewarded and brilliantly should stay on. 238 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: What does Guy think? 239 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 3: Guy, I'm never going to live that down. I think 240 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 3: he should and I think Rugby Australia should do whatever 241 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 3: they can to get him, because they says, look at 242 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 3: the improvements he's already made and with another what two 243 00:10:58,280 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 3: and a half years or so into the World Cup, 244 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 3: I think they could be a force at that tournament. 245 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: Great pleasure, Good to see you and we'll catch up 246 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: next week, Guy, he Belt and andrews Ell. 247 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 2: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 248 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: News Talks at B from six am weekdays, or follow 249 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.