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Speaker 2: Yeah, take another, It's r trick, It is out, the

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Speaker 2: Test is over. Couldn't smokes a beauty?

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Speaker 3: That is out?

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Speaker 4: And here he goes this delivery has any user.

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Speaker 1: Revolved on the front foot with Brian Waddell and Jeremy Coney,

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Speaker 4: Hello, nice to have you again on the front court

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Speaker 4: with us, also with Ravie one. Here we made paints

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Speaker 4: and stains. Despite the match results, the black Cats have

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Speaker 4: struggled for T twenty. Consistency Is consistency necessary in a

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Speaker 4: cricket lottery like the Tea twenty. Some players still to

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Speaker 4: confirm the spots because of the injuries. What of the

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Speaker 4: West Indies contributed to the series? Our White Ferns have

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Speaker 4: failed in India, finished outside the top four. How do

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Speaker 4: we get back to that top echelon? How did I

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Speaker 4: remember this? One of our great test performances. And the

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Speaker 4: special guest has joined us this week, Jeremy, nice to

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Speaker 4: have with us. Emily Drumm, former Whitefern who has a

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Speaker 4: very close knowledge of the women's game, and it'd be

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Speaker 4: nice to get some ideas from her. As long as

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Speaker 4: your memory is working back to nineteen eighty five as well,

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Speaker 4: we should have a complete success of the day's program.

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Speaker 5: I'll do my best. Ones.

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Speaker 6: Good to chat to you once again, and hello Emily,

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Speaker 6: and welcome and thanks for being on with us and

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Speaker 6: putting I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I think some.

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Speaker 6: Knowledge perhaps is the word to the women's game, so

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Speaker 6: we'll look really looking forward to that.

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Speaker 7: Thanks guys to sharing the thoughts and where I think

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Speaker 7: we can see a way forward. Such an exciting type

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Speaker 7: of the woman's game. So happy to share how we

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Speaker 4: That's what we want to be a bit positive too,

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Speaker 4: it's not a negative point of view. We've had an

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Speaker 4: email from Jeff who sent us at an email to on

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Speaker 4: the Front Foot twenty gmail dot com and he said

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Speaker 4: he enjoys listening to the podcast, which is great, and

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Speaker 4: he also pointed to the white ferns and finishing sixth

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Speaker 4: underperformed at this tournament. He suggests that Halliday and Plummer

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Speaker 8: Emily.

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Speaker 4: I read an article in The crick and Fox about

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Speaker 4: It hasn't bought a World Cup for Australia the money

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Speaker 4: not everything, is it. There needs to be something more

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Speaker 7: simple as that. They just we don't have the player pool.

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Speaker 7: We don't have enough players playing the game right from

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Speaker 7: We don't have enough. The spread of our players are

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Speaker 7: We've got a lot of catching up to do on

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Speaker 4: For what we've spent just before Jerry asked the question, Emily,

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Speaker 4: my bugbear is the quality of cricket that we're playing.

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Speaker 4: I believe that some of the money should be spent.

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Speaker 4: I know it's costly on a longer format program, a

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Speaker 7: So we've got players betting for time. I want to

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Speaker 6: Yeah, now look, look, I thought that the Women's World

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Speaker 5: Actually I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 6: I thought India after losing three in a row, then

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Speaker 6: So for a tournament that began on who on Earth

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Speaker 6: and that's not being patronizing at all. The range of shots,

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Speaker 5: But some very serious batting. Wasn't a perfect tournament.

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Speaker 8: But it was.

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Speaker 6: Saved by the knockout phase. I think probably even of

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Speaker 6: It feels like the old men's game through the fifties

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Speaker 7: Well, I need to break it to you that we

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Speaker 7: since two thousand, we have to accept that you're going

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Speaker 7: How can I survive, score runs, how can I dominate?

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Speaker 7: How can I lead the team with my batting? So

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Speaker 7: that's that's my job over the next sort of twelve

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Speaker 4: But you.

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Speaker 7: Just really want people to just understand that there will

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Speaker 6: They've got to be able to score runs nowadays, and

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Speaker 7: We had friend Jonas.

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Speaker 7: No, and she's had to go back to the drawing

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Speaker 7: should be playing Australia under nineties every year. We should

434
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Speaker 7: be going there for a month and playing against them,

435
00:25:19,253 --> 00:25:23,253
Speaker 7: you know, on hard fast surfaces, taking fifteen their two

436
00:25:23,333 --> 00:25:26,013
Speaker 7: twenties one day as in a long in a three

437
00:25:26,093 --> 00:25:29,013
Speaker 7: day game. Wouldn't that be fantastic over three weeks.

438
00:25:30,053 --> 00:25:33,693
Speaker 4: Yeah, the sort of experience that those young ladies would

439
00:25:34,613 --> 00:25:39,973
Speaker 4: enjoy and would appreciate. I'm sure interesting to talk about

440
00:25:39,973 --> 00:25:42,413
Speaker 4: the women's game. We just want to move on to

441
00:25:42,453 --> 00:25:43,933
Speaker 4: a couple of other things, even if you've got a

442
00:25:43,973 --> 00:25:46,373
Speaker 4: few extra minutes, and you might want to add any

443
00:25:46,413 --> 00:25:50,253
Speaker 4: comments about the current T twenty series that is impressed

444
00:25:50,293 --> 00:25:52,413
Speaker 4: would have been made of it safe. I'm irrespective of

445
00:25:52,453 --> 00:25:56,053
Speaker 4: the outright result of the series. It's been pretty close

446
00:25:56,093 --> 00:26:00,813
Speaker 4: and there's been some inconsistency, but you know, it's apart

447
00:26:00,813 --> 00:26:02,973
Speaker 4: from Eden Park, and I don't want to be down

448
00:26:03,013 --> 00:26:06,213
Speaker 4: on Eden Park. It's grabbed a lot of spectator attention,

449
00:26:06,333 --> 00:26:06,773
Speaker 4: hasn't it.

450
00:26:07,653 --> 00:26:11,853
Speaker 7: Yeah, we really enjoyed watching cracket. I felt that Australian

451
00:26:11,893 --> 00:26:16,653
Speaker 7: series was too soon for New Zealand weather, and we

452
00:26:16,933 --> 00:26:19,933
Speaker 7: obviously saw what happened there, but I felt like we

453
00:26:20,013 --> 00:26:23,773
Speaker 7: were that was quite a tough start the summer and

454
00:26:23,853 --> 00:26:28,613
Speaker 7: I feel like I think I underestimated the West Indies.

455
00:26:29,173 --> 00:26:31,853
Speaker 7: I actually didn't think they were going to be as

456
00:26:32,693 --> 00:26:35,853
Speaker 7: testing as what they are. They can all bat and

457
00:26:36,013 --> 00:26:38,573
Speaker 7: small grounds, you know they can. They're chipping it over

458
00:26:38,573 --> 00:26:40,173
Speaker 7: the top and I love the way that they have

459
00:26:40,333 --> 00:26:42,613
Speaker 7: fought so hard and as Jerry said, you've got to

460
00:26:42,613 --> 00:26:45,253
Speaker 7: be able to bat at eight, nine and ten. It's

461
00:26:45,373 --> 00:26:48,333
Speaker 7: really clear that you've got to have all the skills

462
00:26:48,373 --> 00:26:50,693
Speaker 7: in the game. I thought New Zealand caught pretty well

463
00:26:51,973 --> 00:26:56,973
Speaker 7: a few sky high catchers that Chapman is caught, but

464
00:26:57,773 --> 00:27:02,413
Speaker 7: as you say, inconsistencies and they seem I see so

465
00:27:02,693 --> 00:27:05,133
Speaker 7: far that we want to back the same Hawks and

466
00:27:05,173 --> 00:27:07,933
Speaker 7: give them a long run up because obviously the World

467
00:27:07,973 --> 00:27:10,773
Speaker 7: Cup cut up Conway has been given a long run.

468
00:27:10,813 --> 00:27:13,173
Speaker 7: You've got Chapman who's been given a long run. You've

469
00:27:13,173 --> 00:27:15,533
Speaker 7: got Jimmy Nisham who can't seem to be left out.

470
00:27:15,573 --> 00:27:20,053
Speaker 7: So you've got a lot of players that are big backed,

471
00:27:20,333 --> 00:27:24,213
Speaker 7: and I'm hoping that we're having backed the wrong horse.

472
00:27:24,293 --> 00:27:26,653
Speaker 7: And we've got a lot of talent in this country

473
00:27:26,653 --> 00:27:28,893
Speaker 7: at the moment, so people should be knocking down that

474
00:27:28,973 --> 00:27:33,653
Speaker 7: door pretty excited with where we are. And then the

475
00:27:33,693 --> 00:27:38,093
Speaker 7: one day format, which I prefer myself, but that's a

476
00:27:38,173 --> 00:27:41,173
Speaker 7: true test of where things sit as far as international

477
00:27:41,613 --> 00:27:42,893
Speaker 7: playing fields.

478
00:27:43,533 --> 00:27:47,333
Speaker 4: Somebody were there after our own heart hear me enjoys

479
00:27:47,373 --> 00:27:49,533
Speaker 4: the one day format rather than the T twenty. I

480
00:27:49,613 --> 00:27:50,733
Speaker 4: presume that's what you were saying.

481
00:27:50,973 --> 00:27:51,333
Speaker 5: Emily.

482
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Speaker 7: That's right, absolutely, because it's just head and giggle, you know.

483
00:27:58,213 --> 00:28:00,933
Speaker 7: So all it takes is one person to have a

484
00:28:00,933 --> 00:28:04,693
Speaker 7: good day and the game's decided. Along with the format

485
00:28:04,733 --> 00:28:08,493
Speaker 7: is a truer test of actually the size capability and

486
00:28:08,693 --> 00:28:09,973
Speaker 7: the ultimate test cricket.

487
00:28:10,013 --> 00:28:10,333
Speaker 5: Of course.

488
00:28:11,293 --> 00:28:16,373
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's instant food, isn't it really. It's it's forgettable too,

489
00:28:16,533 --> 00:28:20,613
Speaker 6: you know. Can we remember T twenty matches a year ago?

490
00:28:20,693 --> 00:28:25,053
Speaker 6: Can we remember them three months ago? They're okay at

491
00:28:25,053 --> 00:28:27,493
Speaker 6: the time, but it's, as I say, it's for the moment.

492
00:28:28,493 --> 00:28:33,573
Speaker 6: I think we've got we've developed some some you know, depth.

493
00:28:33,933 --> 00:28:38,213
Speaker 6: I think the A tours have really helped that that

494
00:28:38,253 --> 00:28:43,213
Speaker 6: we've been going on, we've now developed, you know, for

495
00:28:43,333 --> 00:28:46,373
Speaker 6: the openers, we can have ciphered Robinson or fin Allen

496
00:28:46,453 --> 00:28:49,093
Speaker 6: if you like Revendra as a possibility, if you want

497
00:28:49,173 --> 00:28:53,093
Speaker 6: to play him up there. He seems to be again

498
00:28:53,293 --> 00:29:00,733
Speaker 6: pushing the envelope almost so you're just almost reckless playing

499
00:29:00,773 --> 00:29:04,173
Speaker 6: those kinds of shots. Mitchell has now turned into the

500
00:29:04,213 --> 00:29:07,093
Speaker 6: new Williamson for me in a sense. You know, he

501
00:29:07,253 --> 00:29:10,773
Speaker 6: stays around and plays a slightly different role in bats.

502
00:29:11,453 --> 00:29:14,293
Speaker 5: You bat with me, You bat with me, and.

503
00:29:14,213 --> 00:29:16,413
Speaker 6: I'll push this around and I'll still play my big

504
00:29:16,453 --> 00:29:17,293
Speaker 6: shots as well.

505
00:29:17,893 --> 00:29:19,813
Speaker 5: Phillips has yet to return. Of course.

506
00:29:20,333 --> 00:29:23,373
Speaker 6: Bracewell needs a good long innings to in my mind

507
00:29:23,453 --> 00:29:26,653
Speaker 6: somewhere to get some form and a bit more confidence.

508
00:29:27,133 --> 00:29:30,493
Speaker 6: Sentner is striking it so easily and sweetly at the

509
00:29:30,533 --> 00:29:34,093
Speaker 6: moment Man. And then you get into our bowlers, it

510
00:29:34,173 --> 00:29:38,173
Speaker 6: would look as though to me Wadds that Bracewell and

511
00:29:38,293 --> 00:29:42,093
Speaker 6: Sanna would be there, and so degoing maybe to Asia

512
00:29:42,573 --> 00:29:46,053
Speaker 6: might be a possibility as well. And then we're going

513
00:29:46,093 --> 00:29:48,693
Speaker 6: to get into I mean Chapman. We haven't mentioned Chapman,

514
00:29:49,093 --> 00:29:52,493
Speaker 6: so I mean, he's another one. So and then you

515
00:29:52,533 --> 00:29:54,533
Speaker 6: get into the bowling. Is it going to be Ferguson

516
00:29:54,573 --> 00:29:57,613
Speaker 6: in the desk if he's a fit? Henry and Duffy.

517
00:29:57,973 --> 00:30:02,493
Speaker 6: So we've got lots of names as well, and so

518
00:30:02,693 --> 00:30:06,653
Speaker 6: I think as long as we play sensibly, you know

519
00:30:06,693 --> 00:30:09,733
Speaker 6: we've got we've got always outside chance. But I mean

520
00:30:10,373 --> 00:30:14,333
Speaker 6: the whole format itself is one that you cannot predict

521
00:30:14,413 --> 00:30:15,693
Speaker 6: who's going to win on the day.

522
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Speaker 1: Brian Waddle, Jeremy Coney on the front foot.

523
00:30:19,973 --> 00:30:22,733
Speaker 4: On the front foot with Brian Waddle and Jeremy Coney

524
00:30:22,773 --> 00:30:26,973
Speaker 4: along with Razi one key we made Paints and Stains.

525
00:30:27,373 --> 00:30:32,053
Speaker 4: Have the pleasure to welcome the voice of Caribbean Crickets

526
00:30:32,253 --> 00:30:35,453
Speaker 4: on the radio anyway, has his own radio show, Mason

527
00:30:35,613 --> 00:30:40,413
Speaker 4: and guests every week in the Caribbean, Andrew Mason, who's

528
00:30:40,613 --> 00:30:42,133
Speaker 4: been with us before. And it's nice to have you

529
00:30:42,173 --> 00:30:44,693
Speaker 4: with us. Andrew. I suppose you're watching New Zealand and

530
00:30:44,693 --> 00:30:48,253
Speaker 4: cricket being played here pretty closely at the moment.

531
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Speaker 8: I am indeed certainly enjoying it.

532
00:30:52,293 --> 00:30:56,373
Speaker 3: There were some pretty close battles so far and New

533
00:30:56,493 --> 00:31:00,573
Speaker 3: Zealand up front, some disappointments for us Roderford needs to

534
00:31:00,573 --> 00:31:04,093
Speaker 3: get some runs and that has been a problem for us,

535
00:31:04,133 --> 00:31:07,613
Speaker 3: and of course Jorssin, who normally is very good with

536
00:31:07,733 --> 00:31:11,573
Speaker 3: his left eye spinner's been very expensive and we note

537
00:31:11,613 --> 00:31:13,893
Speaker 3: that King hasn't really done too much at all.

538
00:31:14,253 --> 00:31:16,333
Speaker 8: But on the positive side, of course, she hope. I

539
00:31:16,333 --> 00:31:16,613
Speaker 8: think his.

540
00:31:16,693 --> 00:31:20,293
Speaker 3: Captain to say, pretty well, he's a world class player.

541
00:31:20,773 --> 00:31:24,533
Speaker 8: The bowling has looked pretty pretty, pretty decent, but overall

542
00:31:24,573 --> 00:31:26,293
Speaker 8: it's been very competitive so far.

543
00:31:27,293 --> 00:31:29,973
Speaker 4: Yeah, irrespective of the outcome of the series, they have

544
00:31:30,093 --> 00:31:33,013
Speaker 4: been close games. I just wonder if you've seen it

545
00:31:33,013 --> 00:31:34,973
Speaker 4: the same as us. Both sides have been a little

546
00:31:34,973 --> 00:31:37,853
Speaker 4: bit inconsistent and haven't been able to put their foot

547
00:31:37,893 --> 00:31:40,853
Speaker 4: on the throat, so to speak, and be ruthless pushing

548
00:31:40,853 --> 00:31:41,453
Speaker 4: for victory.

549
00:31:42,653 --> 00:31:43,573
Speaker 8: Yeah. I agree with that.

550
00:31:43,693 --> 00:31:48,013
Speaker 3: In fact, the closeness of the games would suggest that

551
00:31:48,053 --> 00:31:50,213
Speaker 3: anyone could have won. I mean, certainly when you look

552
00:31:50,253 --> 00:31:53,133
Speaker 3: at the first one, the West Indies were able to

553
00:31:53,253 --> 00:31:58,733
Speaker 3: defend or score just around one hundred and sixty five.

554
00:31:59,173 --> 00:32:03,493
Speaker 3: And I not been interested the West Cindy's. They like

555
00:32:03,573 --> 00:32:07,773
Speaker 3: this idea of actually balling last. But I like to

556
00:32:07,773 --> 00:32:11,813
Speaker 3: see the best in these back first, because you know,

557
00:32:11,933 --> 00:32:14,853
Speaker 3: I don't think they had the scoreboard pressure as well

558
00:32:15,253 --> 00:32:19,533
Speaker 3: as other teams, but there's this tendency to try and

559
00:32:19,573 --> 00:32:24,733
Speaker 3: bowl first, and if you note the New Zealanders in

560
00:32:24,853 --> 00:32:29,893
Speaker 3: terms of defending scores, were able to do it pretty well.

561
00:32:29,893 --> 00:32:34,253
Speaker 3: I thought Kyle Jamison certainly held his nerve, you know,

562
00:32:34,373 --> 00:32:40,773
Speaker 3: despike infringing in the third game and sixteen runs and

563
00:32:40,933 --> 00:32:44,173
Speaker 3: he certainly varied his pace quite well and the end

564
00:32:44,213 --> 00:32:47,133
Speaker 3: you were able to get home. But the inconsistency is

565
00:32:47,133 --> 00:32:49,733
Speaker 3: a problem for best indies cricket. I spoke about it.

566
00:32:49,853 --> 00:32:53,613
Speaker 3: King has been very inconsistent, you know, rosst and Chase

567
00:32:53,733 --> 00:32:56,333
Speaker 3: quite strange he didn't play in the last game. And

568
00:32:56,413 --> 00:32:59,093
Speaker 3: I really feel the West need to play Jaden Seals

569
00:32:59,173 --> 00:33:03,173
Speaker 3: because you know, I believe brand that we don't take

570
00:33:03,493 --> 00:33:07,413
Speaker 3: the old question of wick it taking as seriously in

571
00:33:07,453 --> 00:33:10,773
Speaker 3: a tea turney cricket as we should. And certainly the

572
00:33:10,773 --> 00:33:13,413
Speaker 3: best things have got someone like a Jaden Seals.

573
00:33:13,093 --> 00:33:15,893
Speaker 8: Who should be used to try to get the case.

574
00:33:15,933 --> 00:33:19,373
Speaker 3: But overall I would say that Hold has been okay,

575
00:33:20,573 --> 00:33:24,253
Speaker 3: Shepherd a bit expensive, but it's a dangerous player. Towards

576
00:33:24,333 --> 00:33:27,173
Speaker 3: the end of the endings with the bat and the

577
00:33:27,373 --> 00:33:30,853
Speaker 3: disappointment really has been a left arm spinner Hossein, who

578
00:33:30,893 --> 00:33:33,173
Speaker 3: has been charted all about the place by the New

579
00:33:33,253 --> 00:33:33,973
Speaker 3: Zealand batsman.

580
00:33:34,853 --> 00:33:36,973
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting. I don't know that they used them

581
00:33:37,213 --> 00:33:39,533
Speaker 4: as well as they might have, but you know, that's

582
00:33:39,613 --> 00:33:40,813
Speaker 4: the white ball crow.

583
00:33:42,013 --> 00:33:44,413
Speaker 3: That's a good point because, in fact, if you not,

584
00:33:45,333 --> 00:33:48,253
Speaker 3: he normally opens the bowling for the West Indies and

585
00:33:48,293 --> 00:33:50,413
Speaker 3: then told the games he was a six ball to

586
00:33:50,533 --> 00:33:53,853
Speaker 3: use and what was of great interest a brand was

587
00:33:54,013 --> 00:33:56,613
Speaker 3: and then the last game that the player, he actually

588
00:33:56,613 --> 00:33:57,293
Speaker 3: opened the bolling.

589
00:33:57,573 --> 00:33:59,213
Speaker 8: So you're right, they don't seem to know what to

590
00:33:59,253 --> 00:33:59,733
Speaker 8: do with him.

591
00:34:00,653 --> 00:34:03,013
Speaker 4: Well, they've got some early eyes to come. And then

592
00:34:03,013 --> 00:34:06,173
Speaker 4: it's the test matches, which we're basically going to talk

593
00:34:06,173 --> 00:34:09,773
Speaker 4: to you about, Andrew, because we haven't seen a test squad.

594
00:34:10,133 --> 00:34:12,853
Speaker 4: You mentioned Jaden Seals. I just wonder whether he's being

595
00:34:13,373 --> 00:34:18,493
Speaker 4: used spearingly in preparation for that. And the fact that

596
00:34:19,293 --> 00:34:23,813
Speaker 4: two of your trump cards, so to speak, in Alzari

597
00:34:23,973 --> 00:34:28,853
Speaker 4: Joseph and Shama Joseph are on the injured list. Are

598
00:34:28,853 --> 00:34:29,933
Speaker 4: they likely to be here?

599
00:34:31,013 --> 00:34:32,693
Speaker 8: No? No, no, not at all.

600
00:34:33,213 --> 00:34:40,053
Speaker 3: That is a is it problem certainly for us in

601
00:34:40,133 --> 00:34:43,613
Speaker 3: relation to the whole question of him.

602
00:34:44,493 --> 00:34:45,173
Speaker 8: He's injured.

603
00:34:45,773 --> 00:34:50,293
Speaker 3: Shamar Diarry Joseph is also injured as well, and the

604
00:34:50,333 --> 00:34:53,453
Speaker 3: reality they're going to have them and that is a

605
00:34:53,573 --> 00:34:56,813
Speaker 3: major blow because as you know, they've done pretty well

606
00:34:56,813 --> 00:34:59,493
Speaker 3: for the best cities in recent times. I'm hearing that

607
00:34:59,693 --> 00:35:03,253
Speaker 3: Keemar Roach is going to be going. I know that

608
00:35:03,733 --> 00:35:06,013
Speaker 3: there was some thought that his career was over. But

609
00:35:06,133 --> 00:35:09,053
Speaker 3: given the fact that Shamar Joseph and as Harry Joseph

610
00:35:09,293 --> 00:35:12,493
Speaker 3: will not be coming to New Zealand, I'm told that

611
00:35:12,813 --> 00:35:15,853
Speaker 3: Keemar Roch, the veteran, is going to be coming to

612
00:35:15,893 --> 00:35:17,213
Speaker 3: your side of the world.

613
00:35:17,533 --> 00:35:19,813
Speaker 4: Well, he's been successful in New Zealand in the past

614
00:35:19,813 --> 00:35:22,573
Speaker 4: and he would enjoy the conditions because some of the

615
00:35:22,613 --> 00:35:26,493
Speaker 4: seemings you've got, and particularly those two quicker ones, would

616
00:35:26,493 --> 00:35:30,933
Speaker 4: have enjoyed the New Zealand conditions. So who is likely

617
00:35:31,013 --> 00:35:37,213
Speaker 4: to join Roach and Seals with the new ball.

618
00:35:36,373 --> 00:35:38,013
Speaker 8: Well, that's a good question. Of course.

619
00:35:38,053 --> 00:35:42,853
Speaker 3: You've got Jason Holder, you know, who hasn't played in

620
00:35:42,893 --> 00:35:46,693
Speaker 3: a while. Some speculation that perhaps he's fallen off a

621
00:35:46,693 --> 00:35:50,733
Speaker 3: flip favor with the those who picked the side. There's

622
00:35:51,493 --> 00:35:56,493
Speaker 3: a fastballer from Jamaican coll Ages Seals who is not bad.

623
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Speaker 8: He's not bad at all.

624
00:35:58,693 --> 00:36:02,373
Speaker 3: Is twenty nine and in the regional tournament ball pretty

625
00:36:02,413 --> 00:36:04,613
Speaker 3: well and is actually in the cadeby no. In fact,

626
00:36:04,893 --> 00:36:08,573
Speaker 3: they preparing some of the cricketers know in Antigua to

627
00:36:08,613 --> 00:36:09,733
Speaker 3: go off to.

628
00:36:11,293 --> 00:36:12,813
Speaker 8: Uh To to New Zealand.

629
00:36:13,253 --> 00:36:16,093
Speaker 3: So it's a major blow for us, there's no question

630
00:36:16,173 --> 00:36:19,453
Speaker 3: about that. Keemar wrote, has you know served West in

631
00:36:19,493 --> 00:36:22,533
Speaker 3: his cricket pretty well but in recent times not getting

632
00:36:22,573 --> 00:36:24,413
Speaker 3: the same kind of success that you would have been

633
00:36:24,413 --> 00:36:26,893
Speaker 3: looking for. I would think that Philip is going to

634
00:36:27,013 --> 00:36:29,573
Speaker 3: also play as well, Anderson Phillip.

635
00:36:29,573 --> 00:36:30,773
Speaker 8: He's been around for some time.

636
00:36:31,173 --> 00:36:34,413
Speaker 3: So it looks as if we're gonna have Roach Anderson Phillip,

637
00:36:35,453 --> 00:36:39,653
Speaker 3: if the player Shields who is from Jamaica, and possibly

638
00:36:40,693 --> 00:36:44,813
Speaker 3: Jason Hold. So it means that Warkan, the left arm

639
00:36:44,893 --> 00:36:48,333
Speaker 3: spinner will be there uh good insurance motives, having some

640
00:36:48,453 --> 00:36:52,173
Speaker 3: challenges with injury, and he may very well get into

641
00:36:52,213 --> 00:36:55,173
Speaker 3: the site. But I, like you, I'm very very surprised

642
00:36:55,333 --> 00:36:57,573
Speaker 3: that they have not named the Test squalders yet.

643
00:36:58,973 --> 00:37:01,493
Speaker 4: I'll have to get on the plane very shortly. I

644
00:37:01,493 --> 00:37:07,493
Speaker 4: guess the batting lineup the first Test in India, the

645
00:37:07,533 --> 00:37:11,533
Speaker 4: most recent Test that have been played wasn't the best

646
00:37:11,653 --> 00:37:14,213
Speaker 4: for the Westerndis. But that second Test, when Shay Hope

647
00:37:14,693 --> 00:37:19,653
Speaker 4: and Campbell both got centuries, we started to see the

648
00:37:19,693 --> 00:37:23,133
Speaker 4: top order. But again I think there's a consistency problem

649
00:37:23,173 --> 00:37:25,653
Speaker 4: there with other players. You need others to stand up.

650
00:37:25,893 --> 00:37:29,053
Speaker 4: We know how good Campbell and Hope can be, and

651
00:37:29,093 --> 00:37:32,133
Speaker 4: we've seen the likes of Rost and Chase in the past,

652
00:37:32,133 --> 00:37:36,293
Speaker 4: but he's not the kind of player. Greeves is another

653
00:37:36,333 --> 00:37:40,533
Speaker 4: one who has done well. What about other batsmen in

654
00:37:40,573 --> 00:37:42,653
Speaker 4: the top order, Well.

655
00:37:42,853 --> 00:37:46,173
Speaker 8: You'll hit the neil. I mean, there's no questions about that.

656
00:37:46,693 --> 00:37:50,653
Speaker 3: In terms of our challenges, I mean you've got chunder

657
00:37:50,733 --> 00:37:55,453
Speaker 3: Paul who has been very inconsistent. He I suppose because

658
00:37:55,493 --> 00:37:58,413
Speaker 3: of the fact that you know, it would appear as

659
00:37:58,453 --> 00:38:02,693
Speaker 3: if they're very finished. No with Greig Breathwick. But we

660
00:38:02,773 --> 00:38:05,053
Speaker 3: have a big, big challenge, there's no question about that.

661
00:38:06,413 --> 00:38:06,653
Speaker 8: King.

662
00:38:07,493 --> 00:38:10,453
Speaker 3: I know that the coach Darren Sammy reckons that he's

663
00:38:10,493 --> 00:38:13,813
Speaker 3: a good red ball player against Australia. Got seventy five

664
00:38:13,853 --> 00:38:16,613
Speaker 3: in Bobbers, but ever since then he has not done

665
00:38:16,733 --> 00:38:19,573
Speaker 3: well in red ball cricket or white ball cricket, and

666
00:38:19,613 --> 00:38:23,173
Speaker 3: hence he's been dropped from the side Atanez is an

667
00:38:23,213 --> 00:38:27,373
Speaker 3: interesting player and you know, one that we believe could

668
00:38:27,373 --> 00:38:28,413
Speaker 3: do well in the future.

669
00:38:28,533 --> 00:38:30,933
Speaker 8: I understand that Kevin Hodge, who.

670
00:38:30,813 --> 00:38:34,093
Speaker 3: Really has been given a raw deal by the selectors,

671
00:38:34,253 --> 00:38:37,213
Speaker 3: is going to be coming back in to this side up.

672
00:38:37,493 --> 00:38:40,453
Speaker 3: Actually he's an Antigua. You remember when the West Sities

673
00:38:40,453 --> 00:38:44,693
Speaker 3: went to England, he made one hundred and certainly performed

674
00:38:44,693 --> 00:38:48,573
Speaker 3: pretty well in Australia, and yet when the Australians came

675
00:38:48,653 --> 00:38:51,773
Speaker 3: up to the Caribbean he did not make the side

676
00:38:51,813 --> 00:38:55,453
Speaker 3: and that certainly was something that surprised us.

677
00:38:55,493 --> 00:38:55,773
Speaker 8: All.

678
00:38:56,733 --> 00:39:03,413
Speaker 3: Lak, a nice little keeper from Dana, made his debut

679
00:39:03,493 --> 00:39:07,653
Speaker 3: in Pakistan. Expect him to keep because she Hope more

680
00:39:07,653 --> 00:39:10,693
Speaker 3: than likely be bad at four and I like the

681
00:39:10,733 --> 00:39:14,013
Speaker 3: idea of share hope just batting only in in the

682
00:39:14,053 --> 00:39:17,093
Speaker 3: Test matters. And of course you've got the captain in

683
00:39:17,213 --> 00:39:20,253
Speaker 3: rost and chess, so that I think will be the

684
00:39:20,333 --> 00:39:21,293
Speaker 3: nucleus of the team.

685
00:39:22,013 --> 00:39:25,373
Speaker 4: What about this player Pierre who sort of come from

686
00:39:25,373 --> 00:39:27,853
Speaker 4: nowhere and has had the opportunities. Is there room for

687
00:39:27,933 --> 00:39:32,013
Speaker 4: him in the squad or will he be overtaken by

688
00:39:32,173 --> 00:39:35,653
Speaker 4: the likes of the war Aken, Rust and Chase involved

689
00:39:35,653 --> 00:39:40,853
Speaker 4: spin of course, and Murty you were mentioning earlier.

690
00:39:42,053 --> 00:39:43,813
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't. I don't think he's gonna make it.

691
00:39:44,733 --> 00:39:47,933
Speaker 8: He's essentially, you know, a white ball baller.

692
00:39:47,973 --> 00:39:51,453
Speaker 3: I mean he's done very well in regional cricket and

693
00:39:51,493 --> 00:39:54,173
Speaker 3: forced his way into the best and he said because

694
00:39:54,213 --> 00:39:57,973
Speaker 3: he had a very good campaign in the regional cricket.

695
00:39:58,253 --> 00:40:02,213
Speaker 3: But you know, once Morti is fit of course that

696
00:40:02,293 --> 00:40:04,933
Speaker 3: the number one spinner out is war Can and you've

697
00:40:04,933 --> 00:40:07,493
Speaker 3: got rost and chairs, so I really can't see U

698
00:40:07,653 --> 00:40:08,453
Speaker 3: Pier making.

699
00:40:10,013 --> 00:40:12,853
Speaker 4: Yes, I don't think spinners are going to be the

700
00:40:13,093 --> 00:40:15,813
Speaker 4: requirement in New Zealand conditions, particularly on the pictures that

701
00:40:15,853 --> 00:40:19,093
Speaker 4: they're going to be playing at the Other question, is

702
00:40:19,773 --> 00:40:22,453
Speaker 4: Darren Sammy a lot of experience, he's been here before.

703
00:40:23,413 --> 00:40:25,773
Speaker 4: I'm glad he doesn't have to fly too many times

704
00:40:25,773 --> 00:40:27,613
Speaker 4: into Wellington because I was on a plane with him

705
00:40:27,613 --> 00:40:30,813
Speaker 4: once when he said he would never fly into Wellington

706
00:40:30,853 --> 00:40:32,733
Speaker 4: ever again. So he's going to have to do it

707
00:40:32,813 --> 00:40:34,813
Speaker 4: once or else he's going to have to come across

708
00:40:34,893 --> 00:40:40,973
Speaker 4: on the ferry. He was very, very anxious on that occasion.

709
00:40:41,293 --> 00:40:44,533
Speaker 4: But I read a lot about Darren Sammy. Is he

710
00:40:44,893 --> 00:40:48,413
Speaker 4: not universally accepted or liked by the cricket fans there

711
00:40:48,493 --> 00:40:49,973
Speaker 4: as the number one coach.

712
00:40:51,333 --> 00:40:53,933
Speaker 8: Well, that's a very very good question.

713
00:40:54,853 --> 00:40:58,093
Speaker 3: In fact, only recently the president of Cricket Western's doctor

714
00:40:58,173 --> 00:41:01,973
Speaker 3: kish Or Shallow, made a stunning statement. He said that

715
00:41:02,133 --> 00:41:05,733
Speaker 3: the reason why Sammy is being criticized because he's a

716
00:41:05,813 --> 00:41:13,333
Speaker 3: solution and that certainly created a big stir across the Caribbean.

717
00:41:13,853 --> 00:41:17,253
Speaker 3: You know, I suppose you know, when you're not successful,

718
00:41:17,813 --> 00:41:21,813
Speaker 3: people believe that our roads would lead to the course.

719
00:41:21,893 --> 00:41:27,093
Speaker 3: But the reality is, in terms of qualifications, Sammy really

720
00:41:27,813 --> 00:41:31,733
Speaker 3: is not that qualified to actually be caught to the

721
00:41:31,773 --> 00:41:34,013
Speaker 3: West in his side. And I think it was influenced

722
00:41:34,093 --> 00:41:36,213
Speaker 3: because of the fact that he actually captained the West

723
00:41:36,253 --> 00:41:39,613
Speaker 3: in these team successfully into World Cups. That would be

724
00:41:39,693 --> 00:41:42,693
Speaker 3: his claim to fame. But in relation to tactics, in

725
00:41:42,773 --> 00:41:45,853
Speaker 3: relation to support across the Caribbean, I would say it's

726
00:41:45,973 --> 00:41:46,813
Speaker 3: rather rather low.

727
00:41:47,973 --> 00:41:50,933
Speaker 4: Well, they've got a chance to pick themselves up three

728
00:41:51,053 --> 00:41:55,293
Speaker 4: tests in a row. It doesn't happen that often. Besides,

729
00:41:55,373 --> 00:41:57,213
Speaker 4: like New Zealand or the West Indies that they have

730
00:41:57,733 --> 00:42:00,373
Speaker 4: three tasters that I mean, they seem to have to

731
00:42:00,813 --> 00:42:04,053
Speaker 4: settle for a couple and then call it a series.

732
00:42:04,173 --> 00:42:07,413
Speaker 4: So in New Zealand conditions, it'll be a chance for

733
00:42:08,413 --> 00:42:12,893
Speaker 4: this West Indian side to get some momentum back into

734
00:42:13,013 --> 00:42:15,133
Speaker 4: their Test match game because I think there were signs

735
00:42:15,173 --> 00:42:19,573
Speaker 4: of that against India. Goodness, they came pretty close to

736
00:42:20,373 --> 00:42:22,733
Speaker 4: forcing them to chase. You know, well over two hundred

737
00:42:23,333 --> 00:42:26,573
Speaker 4: was those centuries that they were scored. But I'm sure

738
00:42:26,653 --> 00:42:28,893
Speaker 4: some of these younger players would like to see the

739
00:42:29,013 --> 00:42:31,773
Speaker 4: Test match going back to the level that it was.

740
00:42:32,653 --> 00:42:34,253
Speaker 4: It's going to take some work, of course, isn't it.

741
00:42:34,293 --> 00:42:35,453
Speaker 4: We've spoken about this before.

742
00:42:36,533 --> 00:42:41,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, I am not inspired, I must admit.

743
00:42:42,133 --> 00:42:44,293
Speaker 3: I know when they see it across the Caribbean people

744
00:42:44,493 --> 00:42:48,293
Speaker 3: are very upset with me. I believe that, oh West

745
00:42:48,373 --> 00:42:52,013
Speaker 3: Indian batsmen are not good at fast balling at all

746
00:42:52,733 --> 00:42:54,813
Speaker 3: and you know what Wagner did to them the last

747
00:42:54,813 --> 00:42:57,813
Speaker 3: time he played against them, and that really is a problem.

748
00:42:58,213 --> 00:43:02,573
Speaker 3: And until West Indian batsmen are able to handle fast

749
00:43:02,653 --> 00:43:05,413
Speaker 3: ball and again, I think we're going to struggle. As

750
00:43:05,493 --> 00:43:07,573
Speaker 3: you know, the house Cindia is the best in his cricket.

751
00:43:07,933 --> 00:43:12,373
Speaker 3: You had Caddy, Tehran and Lloyd and these guys hooking

752
00:43:12,453 --> 00:43:18,253
Speaker 3: and pulling. Nowadays our West Indian batsman that aggressive fast

753
00:43:18,333 --> 00:43:21,773
Speaker 3: balling from square egg and that is a major problem.

754
00:43:21,893 --> 00:43:26,013
Speaker 3: I saw them against Australia only recently. They were very

755
00:43:26,173 --> 00:43:29,613
Speaker 3: aggressive against the West Indians and it is a major

756
00:43:29,653 --> 00:43:32,413
Speaker 3: problem that we've got. We do not have a lot

757
00:43:32,573 --> 00:43:38,173
Speaker 3: of batsmen who are technically equipped to handle aggressive fast balling.

758
00:43:38,533 --> 00:43:43,133
Speaker 3: And based on that I expect New Zealand to win

759
00:43:43,333 --> 00:43:46,093
Speaker 3: all three Test matches because I'm sure you've got fast ballers.

760
00:43:46,973 --> 00:43:49,013
Speaker 4: All right, Well, thank you very much for your time.

761
00:43:49,093 --> 00:43:50,773
Speaker 4: Lovely to talk to you again. I'm sure we will

762
00:43:50,813 --> 00:43:53,893
Speaker 4: catch up in the very near future and be able

763
00:43:53,933 --> 00:43:58,653
Speaker 4: to discuss the one dayers and the Test series at

764
00:43:58,733 --> 00:44:00,653
Speaker 4: some SiGe over the next month or so.

765
00:44:01,773 --> 00:44:02,053
Speaker 8: Thank you.

766
00:44:02,333 --> 00:44:05,013
Speaker 1: Always a pleasure to be with you on the front

767
00:44:05,053 --> 00:44:06,773
Speaker 1: foot with water and cony.

768
00:44:07,853 --> 00:44:13,373
Speaker 4: Finally, this week, remember this, Emily, do you remember Brisbane

769
00:44:14,013 --> 00:44:15,373
Speaker 4: nineteen eighty five?

770
00:44:15,813 --> 00:44:16,333
Speaker 8: This week?

771
00:44:16,573 --> 00:44:19,893
Speaker 4: In fact, in nineteen eighty five, do you have.

772
00:44:19,973 --> 00:44:20,533
Speaker 6: A memory of that?

773
00:44:21,373 --> 00:44:23,413
Speaker 7: Years? This pat was nine fifty four.

774
00:44:24,253 --> 00:44:28,053
Speaker 4: Yeah, nine for fifty two. That's right, yep, not bad

775
00:44:29,293 --> 00:44:33,133
Speaker 4: with good on here Willis is the captain who tossed

776
00:44:33,173 --> 00:44:37,293
Speaker 4: the coin, called correctly Jerry, and you decided to put

777
00:44:37,333 --> 00:44:37,533
Speaker 4: them in.

778
00:44:37,613 --> 00:44:38,373
Speaker 8: Why did you do that?

779
00:44:39,413 --> 00:44:42,813
Speaker 6: Why did I put them in watch. Yes, well, I

780
00:44:42,933 --> 00:44:45,093
Speaker 6: thought it was our best chance of winning the game.

781
00:44:45,653 --> 00:44:46,213
Speaker 4: Good answer.

782
00:44:46,213 --> 00:44:48,053
Speaker 5: That's a fairly obvious answer, isn't it.

783
00:44:48,173 --> 00:44:51,333
Speaker 6: I mean it was a sign of a murky kind

784
00:44:51,413 --> 00:44:57,413
Speaker 6: of day the gabber actually, and you know, cloud cover down,

785
00:44:57,573 --> 00:44:59,813
Speaker 6: and it was about this time of year, as you say,

786
00:45:00,333 --> 00:45:03,573
Speaker 6: that's why I guess we're remembering it. And we had

787
00:45:03,613 --> 00:45:09,053
Speaker 6: had a really good, good solid build up, played four

788
00:45:09,173 --> 00:45:12,573
Speaker 6: matches and we'd played we've actually played on the Gabba

789
00:45:12,813 --> 00:45:15,733
Speaker 6: just the game before, so we were already in our hotel,

790
00:45:16,333 --> 00:45:19,573
Speaker 6: already in the changing shed, all set out, ready to go,

791
00:45:19,693 --> 00:45:24,213
Speaker 6: and had practiced there. So all the batsmen had got

792
00:45:24,253 --> 00:45:27,253
Speaker 6: about one hundred so at some point leading up to that,

793
00:45:27,973 --> 00:45:30,693
Speaker 6: and all the bowlers had had a decent set of

794
00:45:30,853 --> 00:45:34,813
Speaker 6: spells behind them as well, so we'd got used to

795
00:45:34,933 --> 00:45:39,973
Speaker 6: the depths for standing for in the slips cordon. We

796
00:45:40,093 --> 00:45:43,173
Speaker 6: had good plans and order, we'd had decent meetings, and

797
00:45:43,293 --> 00:45:45,493
Speaker 6: we'd had fun as well together.

798
00:45:45,973 --> 00:45:50,653
Speaker 5: So I felt that everything led to if there is.

799
00:45:50,733 --> 00:45:54,973
Speaker 6: Something in this pitch, our best chance of winning the

800
00:45:55,053 --> 00:45:59,453
Speaker 6: game is to Richard, and so we won the toss

801
00:45:59,493 --> 00:46:02,293
Speaker 6: and bold as the answer to your question, and within

802
00:46:02,373 --> 00:46:05,533
Speaker 6: a couple of overs. Paddles went through two or three

803
00:46:05,613 --> 00:46:09,493
Speaker 6: plans and bowled a short one and there was Hildris,

804
00:46:10,093 --> 00:46:12,893
Speaker 6: you know, Hilditch or whatever his name was, the opener

805
00:46:12,973 --> 00:46:15,453
Speaker 6: hooking down one down to chats at fine leg who

806
00:46:15,533 --> 00:46:20,813
Speaker 6: was still awake at that stage and took the catch comfortably.

807
00:46:21,013 --> 00:46:23,573
Speaker 9: So had he to boon get the edge of course,

808
00:46:23,613 --> 00:46:25,213
Speaker 9: second to be up caught by Cody.

809
00:46:25,533 --> 00:46:27,173
Speaker 3: Now it's Hadley who takes up the attack.

810
00:46:27,333 --> 00:46:30,893
Speaker 9: Border swings at this and it goes be caught on

811
00:46:31,013 --> 00:46:32,773
Speaker 9: the outside. You can get hold of that ball.

812
00:46:33,453 --> 00:46:37,013
Speaker 2: Hadley goes in in short it's caught, caught.

813
00:46:37,093 --> 00:46:40,493
Speaker 9: A third clip, well he goes Hadley again and he's.

814
00:46:40,933 --> 00:46:42,853
Speaker 8: Right through the gate a few deep.

815
00:46:43,053 --> 00:46:45,373
Speaker 9: New balled you after eighty five, and I think in

816
00:46:45,453 --> 00:46:47,773
Speaker 9: a moment he'd be hoping to get some wickets before that.

817
00:46:48,333 --> 00:46:53,933
Speaker 9: Well he's bowling scream bowls. Wayne Phillips with Hadley bowls,

818
00:46:54,093 --> 00:46:56,933
Speaker 9: gets the edge caught by Cody. A second flip Hadley

819
00:46:56,973 --> 00:46:59,813
Speaker 9: away from us. It's balled to Holland down the leap,

820
00:46:59,933 --> 00:47:01,973
Speaker 9: hard feel the port post the wicked.

821
00:47:02,013 --> 00:47:02,333
Speaker 1: He's out.

822
00:47:02,373 --> 00:47:02,973
Speaker 5: Holland is out.

823
00:47:03,293 --> 00:47:07,093
Speaker 9: So Hadley takes his ninth wicket caught five round at

824
00:47:07,133 --> 00:47:11,293
Speaker 9: short forward square, Australia all out for one hundred and

825
00:47:11,413 --> 00:47:15,253
Speaker 9: seventy nine. Holland out without scoring, caught by Brown after

826
00:47:15,333 --> 00:47:18,773
Speaker 9: bowling of Padley, Padley taking his nine wicket and the

827
00:47:18,853 --> 00:47:20,973
Speaker 9: figure of nine for fifty two.

828
00:47:21,813 --> 00:47:24,093
Speaker 4: The one thing I remember about the whole game was

829
00:47:24,173 --> 00:47:28,533
Speaker 4: that Peddles got nine and he could catch off Vaughan Brown.

830
00:47:28,693 --> 00:47:32,093
Speaker 4: Thorn Brown correct test work it. If I had nine wickets,

831
00:47:32,133 --> 00:47:34,493
Speaker 4: I probably would have dropped it. I know Padels wouldn't have,

832
00:47:35,253 --> 00:47:38,493
Speaker 4: but if I had, if I had nine, I.

833
00:47:38,693 --> 00:47:42,813
Speaker 7: Agree, cos you should have spilled the catch, taken the glory.

834
00:47:46,533 --> 00:47:49,453
Speaker 6: He wasn't like that, you guys. You guys can talk

835
00:47:49,573 --> 00:47:51,893
Speaker 6: like He was not like that. He did not like

836
00:47:52,013 --> 00:47:55,253
Speaker 6: making mistakes. Actually it was a bloody good catch too,

837
00:47:55,373 --> 00:47:58,173
Speaker 6: he had he was fielding mid on and it was

838
00:47:58,293 --> 00:48:00,373
Speaker 6: hit behind him so he had to turn and run

839
00:48:00,453 --> 00:48:02,933
Speaker 6: with his back to the pitch and take it over

840
00:48:03,013 --> 00:48:05,173
Speaker 6: his shoulder. And we've seen lots of catches drop like

841
00:48:05,293 --> 00:48:08,093
Speaker 6: that won by Jamison in the last T twenty.

842
00:48:08,173 --> 00:48:09,253
Speaker 5: That's why I can remember it.

843
00:48:10,573 --> 00:48:12,053
Speaker 8: So you know.

844
00:48:12,453 --> 00:48:16,453
Speaker 6: But nine's okay, guys, isn't it? Nine for fifty two?

845
00:48:18,413 --> 00:48:22,493
Speaker 6: And then the next part wads was terrific, wasn't it?

846
00:48:22,973 --> 00:48:27,653
Speaker 6: Decent start, then a big partnership, a huge partnership between jf.

847
00:48:27,413 --> 00:48:28,573
Speaker 5: Reed Rido.

848
00:48:30,013 --> 00:48:33,573
Speaker 6: And Hogan, so one getting nearly two hundred and the

849
00:48:33,653 --> 00:48:35,493
Speaker 6: other one getting over one hundred, which was a really

850
00:48:35,573 --> 00:48:39,213
Speaker 6: important hundred for John Reid. He had to convince himself

851
00:48:39,773 --> 00:48:43,413
Speaker 6: he could play on bouncy wickets, brilliant player of spin

852
00:48:43,533 --> 00:48:48,613
Speaker 6: bowling and had scored hundreds against India and India and Pakistan,

853
00:48:48,813 --> 00:48:52,373
Speaker 6: and yet he hadn't you know. The gabble was a

854
00:48:52,453 --> 00:48:55,413
Speaker 6: bouncy pitch, so that was a really and he spent

855
00:48:55,493 --> 00:48:58,133
Speaker 6: a lot of time with Turner handling the short ball

856
00:48:58,213 --> 00:49:02,973
Speaker 6: and where the hands went and so on. So terrific partnership.

857
00:49:03,733 --> 00:49:06,853
Speaker 6: And we batted for a long time, and we slowly

858
00:49:06,973 --> 00:49:09,933
Speaker 6: increased the tempo of the first things. And when Paddles

859
00:49:10,013 --> 00:49:16,493
Speaker 6: came in, he smashed them, he smashed them, and it

860
00:49:16,693 --> 00:49:19,333
Speaker 6: got dark and got darker and darker and darker, and

861
00:49:19,613 --> 00:49:21,973
Speaker 6: Paddles was asking for the lights to be turned off,

862
00:49:22,693 --> 00:49:26,333
Speaker 6: you know at some stage, So you know, it was

863
00:49:26,453 --> 00:49:27,733
Speaker 6: just a perfect game for us.

864
00:49:27,813 --> 00:49:31,933
Speaker 4: Actually, yes, indeed, the things that our memories are made of,

865
00:49:32,373 --> 00:49:35,533
Speaker 4: and we look forward to more memories like that. Emily,

866
00:49:35,613 --> 00:49:38,133
Speaker 4: thanks very much for joining us and sharing as your thoughts.

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Speaker 4: It's nice to hear the game from a women's perspective.

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Speaker 4: I know people look at us met and say, you know,

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Speaker 4: give the women a chance, but it's always nice to

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Speaker 4: hear the views of a former player and an expert

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Speaker 4: at the game. And we look forward to perhaps talking

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Speaker 4: to you again when we get the opportunity to see

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Speaker 4: how the women's game is progressing in terms of its

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Speaker 4: transition that you talked about earlier.

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Speaker 7: No worse, guys enjoyed the chat.

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Speaker 4: And you'll be You'll be doing some commentary I understand

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Speaker 4: this year, Is that right?

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Speaker 7: Yes, yep, Yeah, I've got the chance to do on

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Speaker 7: the Wendy's tests and Hamilton, which is pretty exciting. So

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Speaker 7: not Hamilton bay Oval.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of tests will be together. We're going

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Speaker 5: to talk a lot together, Emily. I can see that

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Speaker 5: that would be great.

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Speaker 4: I'm all up for that, well so am I. But

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Speaker 4: it's time to come to a end on this occasion.

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Speaker 4: Thanks very much, Emily. Thanks Jerry once more for your

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Speaker 4: contribution as ever, and look forward to coming weeks anyway

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Speaker 4: on the front. Thanks very much.

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Speaker 5: Cheers, nice cheers, Emily.

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Speaker 4: Summer.

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