1 00:00:07,173 --> 00:00:10,493 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,613 --> 00:00:11,733 Speaker 1: from Newstalks ADB. 3 00:00:12,853 --> 00:00:16,133 Speaker 2: Apart from my beautiful wife, of course, the last person 4 00:00:16,493 --> 00:00:21,253 Speaker 2: I thought of before I dozed off last night was Dave. 5 00:00:22,533 --> 00:00:25,373 Speaker 2: Dave had texted me a few hours earlier, when I 6 00:00:25,453 --> 00:00:29,093 Speaker 2: was filling in for Heather on newstalk's dB Drive yesterday afternoon, 7 00:00:29,173 --> 00:00:31,693 Speaker 2: to say that he'd been driving home from Livin to 8 00:00:31,773 --> 00:00:34,613 Speaker 2: Palmerston North when he had stopped off to fill up 9 00:00:34,653 --> 00:00:37,853 Speaker 2: the car with petrol and he had encountered a bit 10 00:00:37,853 --> 00:00:41,253 Speaker 2: of a problem. Dave explained that he'd filled the tank, 11 00:00:41,373 --> 00:00:43,493 Speaker 2: but as he walked over to the foyer and tried 12 00:00:43,493 --> 00:00:46,173 Speaker 2: to transfer money between his bank accounts in order to 13 00:00:46,213 --> 00:00:51,053 Speaker 2: pay for his petrol, his internet banking wouldn't work, so 14 00:00:51,853 --> 00:00:57,213 Speaker 2: there he was stranded, waiting for an enormous global technology 15 00:00:57,333 --> 00:01:00,373 Speaker 2: outage to be sorted so that he could transfer the cash, 16 00:01:00,493 --> 00:01:05,373 Speaker 2: pay for his fuel, and finally get back home. Although 17 00:01:05,813 --> 00:01:08,933 Speaker 2: some of the tech outages seem to have been fixed, 18 00:01:08,933 --> 00:01:13,853 Speaker 2: they are still affecting thousands upon thousands of significant operations 19 00:01:13,893 --> 00:01:18,973 Speaker 2: around the world this morning, airports, airlines, hospitals, emergency call centers, 20 00:01:18,973 --> 00:01:23,253 Speaker 2: TV and radio stations, banks, Who's to say, Dave isn't 21 00:01:23,293 --> 00:01:27,213 Speaker 2: still out there madly swiping at his phone, refreshing a 22 00:01:27,253 --> 00:01:34,293 Speaker 2: blank page on his Internet banking waiting, still waiting. The outage, 23 00:01:34,373 --> 00:01:37,453 Speaker 2: of course, was caused by this company, crowd Strike. It's 24 00:01:37,453 --> 00:01:42,853 Speaker 2: a cybersecurity company which is ironically charged with protecting its clients. 25 00:01:43,333 --> 00:01:45,893 Speaker 2: And there is no reporting at this stage to suggest 26 00:01:46,093 --> 00:01:49,853 Speaker 2: that this problem was caused by like a malicious act 27 00:01:49,933 --> 00:01:52,293 Speaker 2: or a cyber attank, anything like that. It's just a 28 00:01:52,293 --> 00:01:56,253 Speaker 2: plain old mistake, a plain old era, and already some 29 00:01:56,453 --> 00:02:00,773 Speaker 2: experts are describing it as the single largest IT outage 30 00:02:00,933 --> 00:02:05,253 Speaker 2: in history. Quote this is what Y two k wishes 31 00:02:05,333 --> 00:02:09,173 Speaker 2: it was, and said on Reddit. Tell you what, though, 32 00:02:09,853 --> 00:02:14,613 Speaker 2: it is a salient reminder just how fragile and interconnected 33 00:02:14,813 --> 00:02:18,453 Speaker 2: many of our modern digital systems really are. A see. 34 00:02:18,533 --> 00:02:22,053 Speaker 2: I would describe myself as being kind of mid tier 35 00:02:22,453 --> 00:02:25,533 Speaker 2: when it comes to the uptake of technology. I'm not 36 00:02:25,653 --> 00:02:29,253 Speaker 2: a total yuppie, but I have a chat GPT account, 37 00:02:29,653 --> 00:02:32,173 Speaker 2: I back up my data on the cloud, I use 38 00:02:32,253 --> 00:02:38,053 Speaker 2: Apple Pay on my phone, and I absolutely abhor cash. 39 00:02:38,493 --> 00:02:43,853 Speaker 2: I hate cash notes coins seriously. In twenty twenty four, 40 00:02:44,173 --> 00:02:47,373 Speaker 2: all of that clutter, Ugh, I want to go about 41 00:02:47,373 --> 00:02:50,973 Speaker 2: my business with the fewest things possible. I don't think 42 00:02:51,413 --> 00:02:55,013 Speaker 2: I've had a wallet that was actually capable of carrying 43 00:02:55,133 --> 00:02:59,173 Speaker 2: hard currency in at least fifteen years. But if the 44 00:02:59,253 --> 00:03:01,693 Speaker 2: last thing I thought of before I hit the hay 45 00:03:01,773 --> 00:03:05,933 Speaker 2: last night was poor old Dave, miserable in the dim 46 00:03:06,013 --> 00:03:10,293 Speaker 2: light of a Livin petrol station forecourt, the first thing 47 00:03:10,333 --> 00:03:14,413 Speaker 2: I thought of this morning was how to avoid Dave's predicament. 48 00:03:15,413 --> 00:03:17,773 Speaker 2: On the way to the studio, I stopped by an 49 00:03:17,813 --> 00:03:21,493 Speaker 2: ATM and withdrew a few hundred dollars in cash, not 50 00:03:21,733 --> 00:03:26,253 Speaker 2: a crazy amount, just enough for a tank of gas. 51 00:03:26,693 --> 00:03:29,813 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 52 00:03:29,893 --> 00:03:32,693 Speaker 1: to News Talks at B from nine am Saturday, or 53 00:03:32,773 --> 00:03:34,693 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio