1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:12,027 Speaker 1: from Newstalk ZEDB. 3 00:00:12,667 --> 00:00:16,467 Speaker 2: Drops at six o'clock last night from Netburn, New Zealand. 4 00:00:16,547 --> 00:00:19,747 Speaker 2: The media release Netburn, New Zealand is pleased to confirm 5 00:00:19,987 --> 00:00:23,027 Speaker 2: Dame no Ling Poldor will return as silver Fern's head 6 00:00:23,027 --> 00:00:27,307 Speaker 2: coach effective today. To minimize disruption to the silver Ferns 7 00:00:27,467 --> 00:00:32,507 Speaker 2: currently competing international internationally. Interim coaching appointments will remain in 8 00:00:32,547 --> 00:00:36,667 Speaker 2: place until the conclusion of the Northern tour. Over the 9 00:00:36,707 --> 00:00:39,187 Speaker 2: past two months, Netborn, New Zealand and Dame Nororlean have 10 00:00:39,267 --> 00:00:42,627 Speaker 2: been working on changes to the silver Ferns program and environment. 11 00:00:42,707 --> 00:00:46,187 Speaker 2: They and it goes on have agreed to implement enhancements 12 00:00:46,227 --> 00:00:51,107 Speaker 2: to support well being and performance, including strengthening the player voice. 13 00:00:51,187 --> 00:00:54,587 Speaker 2: Joining us now to explain what that all means is 14 00:00:54,787 --> 00:00:58,867 Speaker 2: the Chief Executive Officer of Netburn, New Zealand, Jenny Wiley 15 00:00:58,987 --> 00:01:01,987 Speaker 2: on Newstalk ZEBB. Jenny, thank you for your time this afternoon. 16 00:01:02,307 --> 00:01:02,667 Speaker 3: Thank you. 17 00:01:03,107 --> 00:01:07,347 Speaker 2: How did you arrive at this decision to Dame Norlene 18 00:01:07,387 --> 00:01:09,547 Speaker 2: total back as silver Ferns coach. 19 00:01:11,267 --> 00:01:14,907 Speaker 3: Well, it's clearly something that we've been working on over 20 00:01:14,947 --> 00:01:17,827 Speaker 3: the last two months and we're just delighted that we've 21 00:01:17,867 --> 00:01:22,187 Speaker 3: been able to reach a resolution to this matter and 22 00:01:22,427 --> 00:01:25,627 Speaker 3: reinstate Dame Nolen as head coach. 23 00:01:25,427 --> 00:01:27,627 Speaker 2: Of the Soil Fairs. Did you have to meet in 24 00:01:27,707 --> 00:01:29,467 Speaker 2: the middle Howard negotiations? 25 00:01:31,027 --> 00:01:34,187 Speaker 3: Well, as you know, in a high performance environment, you're 26 00:01:34,187 --> 00:01:36,347 Speaker 3: dealing with people at the top end of their game, 27 00:01:36,387 --> 00:01:41,467 Speaker 3: whether that's coaches or athletes, and so for that very reason, 28 00:01:41,507 --> 00:01:45,907 Speaker 3: everyone wants to perform at their best and have processes 29 00:01:45,947 --> 00:01:49,107 Speaker 3: that were to allow that to happen. So for both 30 00:01:49,787 --> 00:01:52,307 Speaker 3: Netble New Zealand, Dame Nolen and for the athletes, it 31 00:01:52,387 --> 00:01:55,467 Speaker 3: was important to be able to ensure that we reached 32 00:01:55,467 --> 00:01:58,907 Speaker 3: a common understanding of what those things were and put 33 00:01:58,947 --> 00:02:00,507 Speaker 3: the process in place to move forward. 34 00:02:01,067 --> 00:02:04,107 Speaker 2: Your media release is Nepble New Zealand and Dame Nolean 35 00:02:04,187 --> 00:02:08,947 Speaker 2: have agreed to implement enhancement to support well being and performance, 36 00:02:09,027 --> 00:02:11,907 Speaker 2: including strengthening the player voice. Can you outline what exactly 37 00:02:11,947 --> 00:02:15,107 Speaker 2: that means for us, Jenny, Well, there's. 38 00:02:14,907 --> 00:02:17,827 Speaker 3: A you know, I think across sport there is a 39 00:02:17,907 --> 00:02:21,707 Speaker 3: heightened awareness of the challenges of what is needed to 40 00:02:21,747 --> 00:02:23,867 Speaker 3: stay at the top of your game and how to 41 00:02:23,947 --> 00:02:27,907 Speaker 3: adapt and grow in the changing environment. That we find 42 00:02:28,067 --> 00:02:32,907 Speaker 3: ourselves in. So we are looking at a working group 43 00:02:33,027 --> 00:02:38,067 Speaker 3: of how we pull those enhancements together and what they 44 00:02:38,147 --> 00:02:40,587 Speaker 3: might look like to make sure that going forward, this 45 00:02:40,827 --> 00:02:42,387 Speaker 3: environment is fit for purpose. 46 00:02:43,147 --> 00:02:46,667 Speaker 2: Does this mean that the players basically have more say 47 00:02:46,827 --> 00:02:48,307 Speaker 2: and then how things are running the team? 48 00:02:49,827 --> 00:02:52,667 Speaker 3: Well, I think for everyone to perform at your best, 49 00:02:52,747 --> 00:02:55,427 Speaker 3: you have to physically and mentally be able to be 50 00:02:55,547 --> 00:02:59,027 Speaker 3: at your best, and we've got to adapt our way 51 00:02:59,067 --> 00:03:01,707 Speaker 3: of working to make sure that we enable that. So 52 00:03:02,187 --> 00:03:06,107 Speaker 3: there will be increased level of engagement with players and 53 00:03:06,147 --> 00:03:09,067 Speaker 3: men to allow us to facilitate those changes. 54 00:03:09,267 --> 00:03:12,947 Speaker 2: Does this suggest that Dame Nolean's methods or coaching style 55 00:03:13,067 --> 00:03:15,227 Speaker 2: was maybe, I guess too old school for one of 56 00:03:15,267 --> 00:03:15,827 Speaker 2: a bit of terms. 57 00:03:17,787 --> 00:03:21,547 Speaker 3: I think what this tells us is we can't we 58 00:03:21,587 --> 00:03:23,987 Speaker 3: can't rest on our laurels. We can't do what we've 59 00:03:24,027 --> 00:03:28,107 Speaker 3: done historically and moving forward, we must continue to grow 60 00:03:28,267 --> 00:03:31,507 Speaker 3: and adapt and be different so that these civer Ferns 61 00:03:31,507 --> 00:03:33,947 Speaker 3: can be on the you know, on the world stage 62 00:03:33,987 --> 00:03:34,827 Speaker 3: and perform. Well. 63 00:03:35,187 --> 00:03:37,667 Speaker 2: Are you happy with the resolution that's been reached? 64 00:03:38,947 --> 00:03:41,267 Speaker 3: Well, I think we have every confidence that we now 65 00:03:41,347 --> 00:03:45,827 Speaker 3: have agreement collectively on the changes that are required for 66 00:03:45,907 --> 00:03:49,467 Speaker 3: us to move forward and you know that we have 67 00:03:49,507 --> 00:03:50,547 Speaker 3: a pathway to reach that. 68 00:03:51,307 --> 00:03:54,027 Speaker 2: Why is she only taking over again once the Northern 69 00:03:54,027 --> 00:03:54,907 Speaker 2: tours completed. 70 00:03:56,667 --> 00:03:58,867 Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, it has been a really difficult time for 71 00:03:58,947 --> 00:04:04,387 Speaker 3: everyone and we all agreed collectively to minimize disruption for 72 00:04:04,507 --> 00:04:08,227 Speaker 3: the cil Ferns. They have a really tight turnaround off 73 00:04:08,227 --> 00:04:11,507 Speaker 3: the end of Constellation Cup three days I think before 74 00:04:11,547 --> 00:04:14,307 Speaker 3: they head up to the Northern Tour, so we've all 75 00:04:14,347 --> 00:04:17,067 Speaker 3: agreed that that was best to be able to keep 76 00:04:17,107 --> 00:04:21,187 Speaker 3: the interim coaching structure in place to minimize any further 77 00:04:21,347 --> 00:04:22,387 Speaker 3: disruption for them. 78 00:04:23,147 --> 00:04:27,347 Speaker 2: An Evets, mccaus and jury and that her assistant Leana 79 00:04:27,427 --> 00:04:28,587 Speaker 2: are happy with that as well. 80 00:04:30,107 --> 00:04:33,947 Speaker 3: Yeah, we've we've always been in contact with our coaches 81 00:04:34,707 --> 00:04:38,187 Speaker 3: to make sure that they're in a really challenging environment 82 00:04:38,627 --> 00:04:41,827 Speaker 3: with a lot of uncertainty, so it's been important to 83 00:04:41,827 --> 00:04:45,907 Speaker 3: be able to keep those lines of communications open and 84 00:04:46,547 --> 00:04:49,307 Speaker 3: they're really confident that they've got clarity of what they're 85 00:04:49,387 --> 00:04:51,467 Speaker 3: able to do in the direction of travel for that 86 00:04:51,587 --> 00:04:52,187 Speaker 3: Northern tour. 87 00:04:52,547 --> 00:04:55,387 Speaker 2: So Damielan's back in the job effective immediately, but not 88 00:04:55,427 --> 00:04:57,427 Speaker 2: coaching again for a few months. So what does she 89 00:04:57,467 --> 00:04:59,227 Speaker 2: do for the next few months? Is this. Should you 90 00:04:59,267 --> 00:05:01,867 Speaker 2: plan for the Commnwealth Games next year? Will what will 91 00:05:01,907 --> 00:05:03,027 Speaker 2: your expectations be? 92 00:05:04,707 --> 00:05:07,427 Speaker 3: Oh, in the intervening period, we will be working really 93 00:05:07,467 --> 00:05:11,387 Speaker 3: closely on the enhancements and changes in that environment. We'll 94 00:05:11,387 --> 00:05:12,267 Speaker 3: be doing that together. 95 00:05:12,947 --> 00:05:14,947 Speaker 2: Do you stand by the decision to stand her down 96 00:05:14,987 --> 00:05:17,107 Speaker 2: from the job? Jenny? 97 00:05:17,427 --> 00:05:20,547 Speaker 3: Look, we you know. I think I think we're really 98 00:05:21,267 --> 00:05:26,347 Speaker 3: clear that we could. We had concerns raised that warranted 99 00:05:26,867 --> 00:05:31,347 Speaker 3: us taking them seriously. Neple New Zealand has a duty 100 00:05:31,347 --> 00:05:35,667 Speaker 3: of care and as difficult as this has been and 101 00:05:35,867 --> 00:05:40,107 Speaker 3: the timing, we think Nepal will be better for this. Ultimately. 102 00:05:40,707 --> 00:05:43,027 Speaker 2: In the media releases, there's nothing was found during the 103 00:05:43,027 --> 00:05:47,107 Speaker 2: process that called her integrity into into questions. So what 104 00:05:47,187 --> 00:05:48,747 Speaker 2: did you find during that process? 105 00:05:50,547 --> 00:05:53,947 Speaker 3: Look, I think, as you will appreciate throughout, we are 106 00:05:53,987 --> 00:05:56,627 Speaker 3: not going to talk about the specifics of what those 107 00:05:56,667 --> 00:06:01,347 Speaker 3: concerns were. But what we are really confident is that 108 00:06:01,427 --> 00:06:05,707 Speaker 3: we have plans in place and we are able to 109 00:06:05,747 --> 00:06:09,067 Speaker 3: address them and that has always been the most important 110 00:06:09,147 --> 00:06:13,467 Speaker 3: thing for us. This was always about how do we listen, 111 00:06:13,987 --> 00:06:15,027 Speaker 3: learn and grow. 112 00:06:15,907 --> 00:06:18,707 Speaker 2: Has trust been broken? Do you think on either side 113 00:06:19,067 --> 00:06:20,467 Speaker 2: as a result of this process? 114 00:06:22,987 --> 00:06:27,387 Speaker 3: Well, I thank you. It's been challenging for everyone, hasn't 115 00:06:27,427 --> 00:06:30,147 Speaker 3: it Sure, and none of us wanted to be doing 116 00:06:30,187 --> 00:06:35,307 Speaker 3: this out in the out in the public eye. But 117 00:06:35,507 --> 00:06:38,987 Speaker 3: we will always maintained that this was always about bringing 118 00:06:38,987 --> 00:06:42,827 Speaker 3: Nolline back into the environment and in order to do 119 00:06:42,867 --> 00:06:45,987 Speaker 3: that where we need to be able to rebuild and 120 00:06:46,067 --> 00:06:48,827 Speaker 3: move forward. But I think what we do know is 121 00:06:49,027 --> 00:06:51,707 Speaker 3: we have made decisions that will be important to guide 122 00:06:51,747 --> 00:06:54,307 Speaker 3: the future of this game and that in the long 123 00:06:54,387 --> 00:06:55,547 Speaker 3: run we can do that together. 124 00:06:56,107 --> 00:06:58,627 Speaker 2: Did the comments from Mark Mitchell the Sports Minister this 125 00:06:58,667 --> 00:07:02,307 Speaker 2: week and talking about Sport New Zealand coming along and 126 00:07:02,347 --> 00:07:06,267 Speaker 2: perhaps intervening or trying to get this process to a resolution, 127 00:07:06,427 --> 00:07:09,307 Speaker 2: and did that expedite things over the last few days. 128 00:07:10,427 --> 00:07:14,307 Speaker 3: Oh? Look, it has been amazing to have the support 129 00:07:14,347 --> 00:07:18,987 Speaker 3: of Mark and Mark Richel and Sport New Zealand. But 130 00:07:19,067 --> 00:07:21,867 Speaker 3: we were really close to a resolution anyway before those 131 00:07:21,907 --> 00:07:25,067 Speaker 3: comments came out, So yeah, great to have their support 132 00:07:25,107 --> 00:07:25,667 Speaker 3: along the way. 133 00:07:26,067 --> 00:07:28,907 Speaker 2: Genny Wiley with us, Genny, how will you reintroduce Dame 134 00:07:28,947 --> 00:07:32,147 Speaker 2: Nolean Toto into the environment? Do you have to? You know, 135 00:07:32,227 --> 00:07:34,347 Speaker 2: I guess it's not until the players return from the 136 00:07:34,387 --> 00:07:37,587 Speaker 2: Northern Tour, But have you thought about that and how 137 00:07:37,627 --> 00:07:39,867 Speaker 2: you get them. Do you need to get them around 138 00:07:39,867 --> 00:07:41,787 Speaker 2: a table or into a camp or something like that, 139 00:07:41,827 --> 00:07:44,787 Speaker 2: so to reintroduce Dame Nolean into the environment. 140 00:07:46,227 --> 00:07:49,987 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think what we have got is time while 141 00:07:50,307 --> 00:07:52,627 Speaker 3: the ferns are away on the northern camp, We've got 142 00:07:52,627 --> 00:07:54,627 Speaker 3: time to sit down and really think about what that 143 00:07:54,707 --> 00:07:57,867 Speaker 3: looks like. And we'll be using that time wisely to 144 00:07:58,067 --> 00:08:02,707 Speaker 3: ensure that we give this you know, heir to these 145 00:08:03,267 --> 00:08:06,187 Speaker 3: areas of change and make sure that we put them 146 00:08:06,187 --> 00:08:10,067 Speaker 3: in place really in an a sound and considered way. 147 00:08:10,747 --> 00:08:13,707 Speaker 2: As have you spoken to any players as a result 148 00:08:13,707 --> 00:08:16,307 Speaker 2: of this and what was their reaction to this news? 149 00:08:17,547 --> 00:08:20,267 Speaker 3: Well, I think it was really important as key stakeholders 150 00:08:20,387 --> 00:08:25,307 Speaker 3: that players were aware they weren't surprised by any any position. 151 00:08:26,387 --> 00:08:29,187 Speaker 3: But as you will also acknowledge, they're in camp for 152 00:08:29,227 --> 00:08:33,467 Speaker 3: the Soul fans and they have Australia tomorrow, so they 153 00:08:33,587 --> 00:08:37,427 Speaker 3: now feel equipped to be able to address this and 154 00:08:37,507 --> 00:08:40,947 Speaker 3: then probably most of them are stoked that that there's 155 00:08:40,987 --> 00:08:44,107 Speaker 3: a resolution. So I think that's the focus now with 156 00:08:44,427 --> 00:08:46,947 Speaker 3: getting out there and performing well against Australia. 157 00:08:47,067 --> 00:08:49,907 Speaker 2: Jenny, do you think Netborn New Zealand's reputation has taken 158 00:08:49,907 --> 00:08:51,907 Speaker 2: a hit from this whole saga. And how hard has 159 00:08:51,947 --> 00:08:54,627 Speaker 2: it been because I know you as an organization have 160 00:08:54,707 --> 00:08:56,227 Speaker 2: not said a lot and you've had to watch the 161 00:08:56,227 --> 00:08:59,707 Speaker 2: public feeling around this dissipate through talk back through social 162 00:08:59,747 --> 00:09:01,907 Speaker 2: media over the last couple of months. But do you 163 00:09:01,947 --> 00:09:05,067 Speaker 2: think your organization's reputation has taken a hit? 164 00:09:06,907 --> 00:09:07,067 Speaker 1: Well? 165 00:09:07,107 --> 00:09:09,627 Speaker 3: I think, as you say, we're playing this out in 166 00:09:09,667 --> 00:09:12,787 Speaker 3: the public eye, and generally not too many organizations need 167 00:09:12,827 --> 00:09:16,027 Speaker 3: to do that. I think what we have done is 168 00:09:16,307 --> 00:09:19,907 Speaker 3: that there is a heightened awareness of the challenges in 169 00:09:19,987 --> 00:09:24,627 Speaker 3: sport now. But ultimately, this is a game that is 170 00:09:24,987 --> 00:09:28,027 Speaker 3: one hundred years old. We're in good health, our playing 171 00:09:28,107 --> 00:09:30,667 Speaker 3: numbers of women and girls in this country are growing, 172 00:09:31,587 --> 00:09:35,227 Speaker 3: and those young people aspire to be silver Ferns. And 173 00:09:35,267 --> 00:09:37,907 Speaker 3: if we've got a silver ferns environment that is better 174 00:09:38,027 --> 00:09:41,427 Speaker 3: for this process, then in the long run, netball will 175 00:09:41,467 --> 00:09:42,987 Speaker 3: be better for this process. 176 00:09:43,267 --> 00:09:45,787 Speaker 2: And now you can focus on the test this afternoon 177 00:09:45,907 --> 00:09:48,387 Speaker 2: in Hamilton and hope that the Silver Fans get back 178 00:09:48,427 --> 00:09:50,667 Speaker 2: into the series with a victory in front of their 179 00:09:50,707 --> 00:09:51,547 Speaker 2: home fans. 180 00:09:52,547 --> 00:09:56,387 Speaker 3: Oh, there's nothing better than a home crowd to support 181 00:09:56,387 --> 00:09:59,587 Speaker 3: our silver Ferns. They always rise to the occasion, so 182 00:09:59,627 --> 00:10:02,987 Speaker 3: we're looking forward to both Hamilton today and christ Church 183 00:10:03,067 --> 00:10:05,747 Speaker 3: on Wednesday to be able to put some good netball 184 00:10:05,787 --> 00:10:06,307 Speaker 3: out on court. 185 00:10:06,467 --> 00:10:08,467 Speaker 2: Ginny, appreciate your time with us on News Talk ZIBB 186 00:10:08,547 --> 00:10:09,747 Speaker 2: this afternoon. Go well. 187 00:10:11,147 --> 00:10:11,507 Speaker 3: Thank you. 188 00:10:12,547 --> 00:10:16,147 Speaker 2: That was Genny Wiley, the chief executive of Nitborne, New Zealand, 189 00:10:16,227 --> 00:10:18,067 Speaker 2: joining us on News Talk ZIBB. 190 00:10:18,747 --> 00:10:21,947 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live 191 00:10:22,067 --> 00:10:25,467 Speaker 1: to News Talk ZIBB weekends from midday, or follow the 192 00:10:25,467 --> 00:10:26,987 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio.