1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,547 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:13,387 Speaker 1: from News Talks edb Let's Move. 3 00:00:13,427 --> 00:00:17,107 Speaker 2: It's thirteen past one. The black Caps pace bowling stocks 4 00:00:17,387 --> 00:00:20,267 Speaker 2: have been bolstered for the upcoming Chapel Headley T twenty 5 00:00:20,347 --> 00:00:23,227 Speaker 2: series against Australia at Bay Oval in the first week 6 00:00:23,267 --> 00:00:23,907 Speaker 2: of October. 7 00:00:24,307 --> 00:00:26,667 Speaker 3: Jamison is then outside the line of off Starck. Has 8 00:00:26,667 --> 00:00:28,507 Speaker 3: he been taken at third slip? 9 00:00:28,507 --> 00:00:32,347 Speaker 2: That must be Tim Salvey. Terrific strike from Jamison, so 10 00:00:32,387 --> 00:00:34,947 Speaker 2: he's got a missub of Jameson appeal for LBW and 11 00:00:35,147 --> 00:00:38,787 Speaker 2: he's given. He's Gottenrant corle Lee and goes Jamison. 12 00:00:38,867 --> 00:00:39,787 Speaker 3: Two parte court. 13 00:00:40,547 --> 00:00:46,187 Speaker 1: That's second slip outside edge off Jamison Jamison and he's 14 00:00:46,267 --> 00:00:48,427 Speaker 1: edged and it's caught by Ross Taylor. 15 00:00:49,027 --> 00:00:52,507 Speaker 2: He has the wickets of Ishad Shama. Jamison approaches for 16 00:00:52,587 --> 00:00:55,387 Speaker 2: his first livery angler listen and an appeal for LBW 17 00:00:55,547 --> 00:01:01,387 Speaker 2: and givin second consecutive wicket for Kyl Jamison. Kyle Jamison's back, 18 00:01:01,467 --> 00:01:04,667 Speaker 2: as has been Sears, joining Matt Henry, Jacob Duffy and 19 00:01:04,907 --> 00:01:08,427 Speaker 2: Zach Folks as the fast bowling options. Ben Sears is 20 00:01:08,507 --> 00:01:11,867 Speaker 2: back having recovered from a side strain and Kyle Jamison 21 00:01:11,987 --> 00:01:15,107 Speaker 2: is now a dad, missing the recent series in zimbabweit 22 00:01:15,227 --> 00:01:18,987 Speaker 2: to welcome the birth of he and his partner's first child. 23 00:01:19,147 --> 00:01:21,627 Speaker 2: Kyle Jamison is with us. Let's start there. Actually, how's 24 00:01:21,907 --> 00:01:22,667 Speaker 2: parentshood going. 25 00:01:23,827 --> 00:01:26,467 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been good. It's certainly been a different well, yeah, 26 00:01:26,467 --> 00:01:28,707 Speaker 3: it gives a bit of a change of pace from 27 00:01:28,747 --> 00:01:30,267 Speaker 3: what I've been used to. But now I've been loving it. 28 00:01:30,307 --> 00:01:32,547 Speaker 3: It's been lovely to be home and yeah, and to 29 00:01:32,547 --> 00:01:34,547 Speaker 3: support my partner and just be here to speak here 30 00:01:34,627 --> 00:01:37,347 Speaker 3: for the first little bit of his life. So yeah, 31 00:01:37,467 --> 00:01:38,027 Speaker 3: that's been good. 32 00:01:37,947 --> 00:01:41,387 Speaker 2: Fun top stuff. Congratulations to you both. You've never played 33 00:01:41,427 --> 00:01:44,067 Speaker 2: Australia in Test or one day cricket. This will be 34 00:01:44,107 --> 00:01:45,947 Speaker 2: the first time you've played them in T twenty cricket 35 00:01:45,987 --> 00:01:48,587 Speaker 2: since twenty twenty one, so how much you're looking forward 36 00:01:48,587 --> 00:01:50,747 Speaker 2: to playing our closest neighbors again. 37 00:01:51,547 --> 00:01:52,987 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, it will be good as love to. Like 38 00:01:52,987 --> 00:01:54,667 Speaker 3: you said, I haven't paid them in tests already eyes 39 00:01:54,747 --> 00:01:57,667 Speaker 3: yet and you know, like growing up, it's always you 40 00:01:57,707 --> 00:01:59,547 Speaker 3: know the thing that I guess most key week cricketers 41 00:01:59,627 --> 00:02:03,467 Speaker 3: sort of watch and has has the most eyeballs on, 42 00:02:03,627 --> 00:02:06,027 Speaker 3: so I guess to be a part of to be 43 00:02:06,067 --> 00:02:09,027 Speaker 3: part of another New Zealand Aussie series and to have 44 00:02:09,067 --> 00:02:10,627 Speaker 3: the Chapel Hadley now on the line as well for 45 00:02:10,627 --> 00:02:12,907 Speaker 3: the Tea twenties as as Yeah, I'm going to be 46 00:02:12,947 --> 00:02:13,187 Speaker 3: called to. 47 00:02:13,147 --> 00:02:15,067 Speaker 2: Be a part of and the names I read out yourself, 48 00:02:15,147 --> 00:02:18,427 Speaker 2: Ben Sears joining Matt Henry, Jacob Duffy, Zach Folks. It's 49 00:02:18,467 --> 00:02:22,667 Speaker 2: a pretty potent looking past bowling Quintete, isn't it. How 50 00:02:22,747 --> 00:02:25,587 Speaker 2: exciting is the prospect of bowling in tandem with those guys. 51 00:02:26,387 --> 00:02:28,267 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we had a little bit of a taste 52 00:02:28,267 --> 00:02:30,147 Speaker 3: of I guess in parts over the last sort of 53 00:02:30,587 --> 00:02:32,747 Speaker 3: twelve months. But yeah, like you said, there's been a 54 00:02:33,027 --> 00:02:36,667 Speaker 3: pretty pretty exciting sort of group of bowl at the moment. 55 00:02:36,707 --> 00:02:38,987 Speaker 3: Obviously there's a few couple of guys sitting out the 56 00:02:39,027 --> 00:02:41,707 Speaker 3: moment as well, So yeah, we've got a good, good 57 00:02:41,747 --> 00:02:43,307 Speaker 3: crop of fast balls at the moment. I think we 58 00:02:43,427 --> 00:02:45,867 Speaker 3: all sort of have ol sort of own unique strength. 59 00:02:45,987 --> 00:02:48,747 Speaker 3: So yeah, he good to get in camping and to 60 00:02:48,827 --> 00:02:50,947 Speaker 3: link up with ye think up with those boys again 61 00:02:50,947 --> 00:02:51,267 Speaker 3: for sure. 62 00:02:51,427 --> 00:02:53,347 Speaker 2: So this will be your first cricket since mid year. 63 00:02:53,427 --> 00:02:56,227 Speaker 2: You played in the Pakistan Super League and then the IPL. 64 00:02:56,387 --> 00:02:59,187 Speaker 2: It was a bit disrupted though, wasn't it paused because 65 00:02:59,227 --> 00:03:02,587 Speaker 2: of the unrest between Pakistan and India. Can you tell 66 00:03:02,667 --> 00:03:04,067 Speaker 2: us what that time was like? 67 00:03:05,067 --> 00:03:08,747 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a little bit, I guess, just sort 68 00:03:08,787 --> 00:03:10,747 Speaker 3: of not really sure what's going on, and it was 69 00:03:11,387 --> 00:03:12,827 Speaker 3: so I had to just sort of roll with the 70 00:03:12,867 --> 00:03:15,787 Speaker 3: punches a little bit. But look, I love my time 71 00:03:15,867 --> 00:03:18,787 Speaker 3: both in Pakistan and in there, and it was nice 72 00:03:18,827 --> 00:03:21,627 Speaker 3: to just get I guess, a consistent runner cricket off 73 00:03:21,667 --> 00:03:23,867 Speaker 3: the back of my last couple of years, so to 74 00:03:23,947 --> 00:03:25,867 Speaker 3: be back in those environments and I love you love 75 00:03:25,947 --> 00:03:27,387 Speaker 3: being back in the IPL and g set the back 76 00:03:27,427 --> 00:03:29,227 Speaker 3: end of that tournament with some of those high pressure games, 77 00:03:29,267 --> 00:03:32,827 Speaker 3: and just fortunate that, I guess the way things unfolded, 78 00:03:32,827 --> 00:03:34,787 Speaker 3: I was able to go over there and just have 79 00:03:34,867 --> 00:03:36,787 Speaker 3: a good runner cricket and some of those high pressure moments. 80 00:03:36,947 --> 00:03:38,667 Speaker 2: You can you just tell us how that unfolded because 81 00:03:38,787 --> 00:03:41,107 Speaker 2: you were playing Pakistan Super League, you came home, went 82 00:03:41,187 --> 00:03:44,627 Speaker 2: back but to the IPL with the Punjab Kings. How 83 00:03:44,667 --> 00:03:46,707 Speaker 2: did that all play out? Yeah? 84 00:03:46,747 --> 00:03:49,027 Speaker 3: It was really sort of got home from Pakistan, was 85 00:03:49,027 --> 00:03:52,267 Speaker 3: obviously a little bit unsure around you know, if things 86 00:03:52,307 --> 00:03:54,627 Speaker 3: were going to restart, and if they were then I 87 00:03:54,667 --> 00:03:56,947 Speaker 3: guess when they were going to and I hadn't been 88 00:03:56,947 --> 00:03:59,067 Speaker 3: playing a huge amount in Pakistan and they kind of 89 00:03:59,147 --> 00:04:01,667 Speaker 3: just said, look, look, if you want to stay at 90 00:04:01,707 --> 00:04:04,227 Speaker 3: home and not come back, then that's okay by us. 91 00:04:04,347 --> 00:04:08,467 Speaker 3: And then so that kind of unfolding. About twelve hours later, 92 00:04:08,547 --> 00:04:11,507 Speaker 3: the chance to go to India popped up, and I 93 00:04:11,627 --> 00:04:14,227 Speaker 3: was still still sort of ready for some cricket and 94 00:04:15,227 --> 00:04:17,067 Speaker 3: especially getting back to the IPL and being a get 95 00:04:17,147 --> 00:04:19,267 Speaker 3: at the back end of that tournament. Yeah, it was 96 00:04:19,267 --> 00:04:22,667 Speaker 3: too good, too good an opportunity to pass up. So yeah, 97 00:04:22,667 --> 00:04:25,547 Speaker 3: a little bit of a funny one sort of going 98 00:04:25,627 --> 00:04:28,027 Speaker 3: both tournaments, but you're glad it kind of all worked out. 99 00:04:28,267 --> 00:04:30,547 Speaker 2: And did you take Lockie Ferguson's place at Punjab? 100 00:04:31,147 --> 00:04:31,907 Speaker 3: Yeah? I did. Yeah. 101 00:04:32,907 --> 00:04:35,307 Speaker 2: It's funny how this game works sometimes, isn't it. 102 00:04:35,827 --> 00:04:35,987 Speaker 3: You know? 103 00:04:36,227 --> 00:04:37,867 Speaker 2: And so you go back over there play the last 104 00:04:37,867 --> 00:04:41,587 Speaker 2: four games, including the IPL Grand Final against for all 105 00:04:41,747 --> 00:04:43,187 Speaker 2: challenges being delarue. 106 00:04:43,467 --> 00:04:46,507 Speaker 3: What was that like? It was actually awesome. I loved it. 107 00:04:46,587 --> 00:04:50,347 Speaker 3: Like I obviously had a very different experience in twenty 108 00:04:50,387 --> 00:04:52,867 Speaker 3: twenty one when I was last last at the IPL 109 00:04:53,027 --> 00:04:56,947 Speaker 3: and during COVID and a little bit of a I guess, yeah, 110 00:04:57,347 --> 00:05:00,107 Speaker 3: a slightly different situation, so to go to go over there, 111 00:05:00,147 --> 00:05:02,547 Speaker 3: I think in a far different place than I was 112 00:05:02,587 --> 00:05:04,347 Speaker 3: sort of four years ago and just be involved in 113 00:05:04,387 --> 00:05:07,467 Speaker 3: those last four games are all sort of high pressure games, 114 00:05:08,187 --> 00:05:10,947 Speaker 3: finals games, and I just loved it. I think, off 115 00:05:11,027 --> 00:05:12,827 Speaker 3: the back of probably where I was twelve months ago 116 00:05:12,907 --> 00:05:14,627 Speaker 3: and I'm not really sure whether I was going to 117 00:05:14,627 --> 00:05:17,227 Speaker 3: be playing cricket again, to be back in that arena 118 00:05:17,267 --> 00:05:18,987 Speaker 3: and back in an IPL final and just found it 119 00:05:18,987 --> 00:05:21,387 Speaker 3: to be really present and kind of just soak that up. 120 00:05:21,427 --> 00:05:22,787 Speaker 3: I just absolutely loved it. 121 00:05:23,267 --> 00:05:24,867 Speaker 2: Just tell us a bit more about that than Carle. 122 00:05:25,107 --> 00:05:27,907 Speaker 2: The injuries you've had, Was there a point in the 123 00:05:28,067 --> 00:05:30,307 Speaker 2: not too dis in past where you thought you might 124 00:05:30,427 --> 00:05:31,027 Speaker 2: not play again? 125 00:05:32,187 --> 00:05:36,187 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, there was a really realistic kind of I 126 00:05:36,307 --> 00:05:38,907 Speaker 3: guess place that I was in when I sort of 127 00:05:39,507 --> 00:05:41,867 Speaker 3: started last year. There wasn't really huge amount of answers 128 00:05:41,907 --> 00:05:45,627 Speaker 3: within cricket, and I was sort of staring down the 129 00:05:45,667 --> 00:05:48,067 Speaker 3: barrel of just doing the same thing and expecting some 130 00:05:48,107 --> 00:05:50,787 Speaker 3: different results. So I guess I was very fortunate I 131 00:05:51,307 --> 00:05:55,147 Speaker 3: came across some people externally that had a fair amount 132 00:05:55,187 --> 00:05:59,067 Speaker 3: of answers and just went about I guess rebuilding, rebuilding 133 00:05:59,107 --> 00:06:01,187 Speaker 3: my body from scratch. And I guess once I sort 134 00:06:01,227 --> 00:06:03,907 Speaker 3: of linked in with him, I was pretty optimistic that 135 00:06:04,387 --> 00:06:06,947 Speaker 3: I was going to have a different outcome and yeah, 136 00:06:06,987 --> 00:06:08,427 Speaker 3: we're sort of going to be in a better place 137 00:06:09,107 --> 00:06:09,867 Speaker 3: once they got through that. 138 00:06:10,747 --> 00:06:12,507 Speaker 2: Is it your is it your lower back? 139 00:06:12,587 --> 00:06:12,987 Speaker 3: What? What? 140 00:06:13,227 --> 00:06:15,827 Speaker 2: What has caused you the most problems? Yeah? 141 00:06:15,907 --> 00:06:18,107 Speaker 3: Yeah, just in my love back sort of that same 142 00:06:18,187 --> 00:06:21,467 Speaker 3: sort of spot at AL four and yeah, just a 143 00:06:21,507 --> 00:06:23,947 Speaker 3: couple of couple of stresses in there, and just I 144 00:06:23,987 --> 00:06:27,747 Speaker 3: gets the nature of being tall and trying to bowl 145 00:06:27,827 --> 00:06:29,187 Speaker 3: fast and trying to do all that sort of stuff 146 00:06:29,227 --> 00:06:31,747 Speaker 3: put pressure on there. But at the same time it 147 00:06:31,827 --> 00:06:34,107 Speaker 3: was just, yeah, my body wasn't stacked up anywhere there 148 00:06:34,147 --> 00:06:36,507 Speaker 3: where it needed to be. And you know, when you're 149 00:06:37,307 --> 00:06:39,107 Speaker 3: sort of face with I guess the pressure the fast 150 00:06:39,147 --> 00:06:41,347 Speaker 3: by it didn't didn't quite hack up, but you're certainly 151 00:06:41,467 --> 00:06:43,267 Speaker 3: far bit the place now. And went back and rebuilt 152 00:06:43,307 --> 00:06:46,467 Speaker 3: everything and fix the things that I hadn't done previously, 153 00:06:46,547 --> 00:06:49,067 Speaker 3: and yeah, make sure we got it right. This done. 154 00:06:49,187 --> 00:06:51,587 Speaker 2: So you just so there were times when when the 155 00:06:51,627 --> 00:06:54,827 Speaker 2: advice you were getting was, hey, this isn't working. We're 156 00:06:54,867 --> 00:06:58,027 Speaker 2: doing the same things. Nothing's changing. So what you just 157 00:06:58,147 --> 00:07:01,667 Speaker 2: basically refuse to accept that and just sort a different 158 00:07:01,747 --> 00:07:04,707 Speaker 2: type of advice. And lucky you did, because here we are. 159 00:07:05,907 --> 00:07:07,107 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean I always had a bit of a 160 00:07:07,107 --> 00:07:09,307 Speaker 3: gut feeling that there was there was more out there. 161 00:07:09,707 --> 00:07:11,907 Speaker 3: And I don't know why I did, but I just 162 00:07:11,987 --> 00:07:14,307 Speaker 3: felt like there was just something I was missing and 163 00:07:14,547 --> 00:07:17,787 Speaker 3: we kind of, you know, through the previous rehabs, it 164 00:07:17,907 --> 00:07:20,387 Speaker 3: was it was rest and then but just build up 165 00:07:20,387 --> 00:07:22,187 Speaker 3: and do the same thing. There was never any real 166 00:07:22,827 --> 00:07:26,107 Speaker 3: focus on trying to fix anything or find any answers. 167 00:07:26,147 --> 00:07:29,507 Speaker 3: And this time around, it kind of, you know, when 168 00:07:29,547 --> 00:07:31,347 Speaker 3: there wasn't really too much on the table to change, 169 00:07:31,347 --> 00:07:33,947 Speaker 3: I sort of felt like it was a good opportunity 170 00:07:33,987 --> 00:07:36,307 Speaker 3: to try and just seek seek some different advice. And 171 00:07:37,387 --> 00:07:39,907 Speaker 3: once I did, there was you know, a whole heap 172 00:07:39,947 --> 00:07:42,987 Speaker 3: of arts and solutions on the table that just made 173 00:07:42,987 --> 00:07:45,787 Speaker 3: a whole lot of sense to me. So some embarked 174 00:07:45,827 --> 00:07:48,067 Speaker 3: on that and kind of week by week, each each 175 00:07:48,147 --> 00:07:50,707 Speaker 3: time I sort of I went through that process, I 176 00:07:51,187 --> 00:07:54,267 Speaker 3: sort of, I guess, grew in belief that there actually 177 00:07:54,387 --> 00:07:55,827 Speaker 3: was a fair amount of arsis out there and as 178 00:07:55,867 --> 00:07:57,187 Speaker 3: long as I sort of put the work in them 179 00:07:57,747 --> 00:07:59,347 Speaker 3: and did all the right things that there was a 180 00:07:59,947 --> 00:08:01,627 Speaker 3: ficially good chance I'd be back in a far bit 181 00:08:01,667 --> 00:08:05,387 Speaker 3: of place. So yeah, certainly glad I found that at 182 00:08:05,387 --> 00:08:06,507 Speaker 3: the point I did have. 183 00:08:06,547 --> 00:08:08,147 Speaker 2: You had to make changes to your bowling action. 184 00:08:09,507 --> 00:08:11,307 Speaker 3: Uh, yeah, a little bit. I mean it was kind 185 00:08:11,347 --> 00:08:15,307 Speaker 3: of I think things that probably changed just naturally through 186 00:08:15,387 --> 00:08:16,787 Speaker 3: some of the stuff I had to do. I guess 187 00:08:16,787 --> 00:08:19,307 Speaker 3: in terms of changing the sort of foundation of my 188 00:08:19,427 --> 00:08:22,787 Speaker 3: body a little bit, there's been. Yeah, probably some changes 189 00:08:22,787 --> 00:08:24,347 Speaker 3: if you if you go back and have a little 190 00:08:24,347 --> 00:08:27,627 Speaker 3: bit look at the footage, but not not drastically. I 191 00:08:27,707 --> 00:08:29,867 Speaker 3: think it's just how I used my body and I 192 00:08:29,947 --> 00:08:32,067 Speaker 3: guess to the maximum effect and not trying to I 193 00:08:32,147 --> 00:08:35,067 Speaker 3: guess find ways to compensate or putting extratress in a 194 00:08:35,107 --> 00:08:36,107 Speaker 3: body that I don't need to eat. 195 00:08:36,907 --> 00:08:39,347 Speaker 2: How did you deal with the most frustrating times? 196 00:08:41,707 --> 00:08:44,427 Speaker 3: Uh, I don't know, it's a great question. It certainly 197 00:08:45,147 --> 00:08:47,707 Speaker 3: had to sort of grip my teeth at times, and yeah, 198 00:08:47,707 --> 00:08:51,267 Speaker 3: it wasn't It wasn't easy by any means, but it 199 00:08:51,427 --> 00:08:54,027 Speaker 3: was just sort of focusing on the on the endpoint, 200 00:08:54,067 --> 00:08:57,427 Speaker 3: I wanted to get that plan and I didn't want 201 00:08:57,467 --> 00:09:00,507 Speaker 3: to be I guess done with Cracker. I didn't want 202 00:09:00,507 --> 00:09:02,027 Speaker 3: to be it's the first person to sort of have 203 00:09:02,147 --> 00:09:06,507 Speaker 3: the have the surgery and it not works. So there 204 00:09:06,587 --> 00:09:10,867 Speaker 3: was certainly some emotions as that are tied into the 205 00:09:10,987 --> 00:09:13,947 Speaker 3: motivational piece, but it wasn't wasn't easy by any means. 206 00:09:14,147 --> 00:09:16,587 Speaker 2: Well, it's great to have you back. And what are 207 00:09:16,627 --> 00:09:19,027 Speaker 2: you now? Thirty nearly thirty one, so you must feel 208 00:09:19,027 --> 00:09:20,427 Speaker 2: as though you've still got a few years left. 209 00:09:21,307 --> 00:09:24,347 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. I mean it feels like thirty now, 210 00:09:24,507 --> 00:09:26,587 Speaker 3: but I've sort of also had two years of cricket 211 00:09:26,627 --> 00:09:29,547 Speaker 3: where I haven't I guess, has had any use in 212 00:09:29,587 --> 00:09:31,547 Speaker 3: the body. So now I still feel like I've got 213 00:09:31,627 --> 00:09:33,347 Speaker 3: a fair seremon a head of me and got a 214 00:09:33,427 --> 00:09:35,667 Speaker 3: really good team and really good system in place now 215 00:09:36,547 --> 00:09:38,547 Speaker 3: that I feel like I will support my I guess 216 00:09:38,587 --> 00:09:41,507 Speaker 3: body moving forward, So lots less than the tank for sure. 217 00:09:41,667 --> 00:09:43,787 Speaker 2: That's great now. And I was going to ask you 218 00:09:43,827 --> 00:09:46,107 Speaker 2: about Test cricket as well. I mean, your Test cricket 219 00:09:46,187 --> 00:09:49,947 Speaker 2: records just brilliant. Eighty wickets and those nineteen Tests at 220 00:09:50,147 --> 00:09:54,587 Speaker 2: nineteen five five wicket bags, at eleven wicket haul against Pakistan, 221 00:09:55,027 --> 00:09:57,747 Speaker 2: fifty wickets in your ninth Test, but you haven't played 222 00:09:57,787 --> 00:09:59,507 Speaker 2: Test cricket for a while. In fact, no red ball 223 00:09:59,547 --> 00:10:01,867 Speaker 2: cricket that I can see since February twenty twenty four. 224 00:10:02,147 --> 00:10:05,107 Speaker 2: So do you still have strong red ball ambitions? 225 00:10:06,387 --> 00:10:07,747 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. I mean like a little bit of 226 00:10:07,867 --> 00:10:10,147 Speaker 3: it has been due to the schedule, Like I only 227 00:10:10,147 --> 00:10:12,667 Speaker 3: started playing around the Super Smash times. There wasn't much 228 00:10:12,707 --> 00:10:15,467 Speaker 3: red bull cricket when I've been back playing since the 229 00:10:15,467 --> 00:10:17,987 Speaker 3: start of the year. But yeah, it's certainly on the table. 230 00:10:18,067 --> 00:10:20,147 Speaker 3: It's like I'm more of a chance than I would 231 00:10:20,187 --> 00:10:22,027 Speaker 3: have been if I hadn't followed the path that I have. 232 00:10:22,227 --> 00:10:25,267 Speaker 3: So look, it's on the table. It's just making sure 233 00:10:25,307 --> 00:10:27,587 Speaker 3: we did it and in a smart way and not 234 00:10:27,787 --> 00:10:30,107 Speaker 3: just rush rush back because we want to win games 235 00:10:30,187 --> 00:10:33,427 Speaker 3: right now. So yeah, look on the table for sure, 236 00:10:33,467 --> 00:10:36,547 Speaker 3: and that's something that I'm definitely working towards and just 237 00:10:36,627 --> 00:10:37,827 Speaker 3: when it is worth to wait and see. 238 00:10:37,907 --> 00:10:41,147 Speaker 2: So might we see you possibly in December against the 239 00:10:41,187 --> 00:10:41,747 Speaker 2: Weast Indies. 240 00:10:43,147 --> 00:10:45,387 Speaker 3: Possibly, Yeah, possibly. We're just seem sort of week to 241 00:10:45,427 --> 00:10:47,427 Speaker 3: week at the moment, and then that's the I guess. 242 00:10:47,467 --> 00:10:49,467 Speaker 3: The plan is to is to work back to red 243 00:10:49,507 --> 00:10:52,187 Speaker 3: ball cricket, and that's I guess the I guess yeah, 244 00:10:52,227 --> 00:10:55,027 Speaker 3: the path at the moment, but where that spits out, 245 00:10:55,027 --> 00:10:55,907 Speaker 3: we'll just have to wait and see. 246 00:10:56,067 --> 00:10:57,147 Speaker 2: Have you been able to get in the nets and 247 00:10:57,267 --> 00:10:59,987 Speaker 2: bat as well? Could your bat when you were rehabbing 248 00:11:00,067 --> 00:11:00,187 Speaker 2: or not? 249 00:11:00,307 --> 00:11:02,707 Speaker 3: Really? Yeah, yeah, I've done lots of it, so I 250 00:11:02,787 --> 00:11:05,387 Speaker 3: thort of you know, obviously through the rehab part you 251 00:11:05,587 --> 00:11:08,947 Speaker 3: kind of take your medicine and take a bit of rest. 252 00:11:09,307 --> 00:11:11,147 Speaker 3: But yeah, to able to pick up the bat and 253 00:11:11,587 --> 00:11:14,747 Speaker 3: put a fair amount of work into that, so yeah, 254 00:11:14,787 --> 00:11:15,987 Speaker 3: that sort of keep me saying for a little bit 255 00:11:15,987 --> 00:11:16,507 Speaker 3: of it for sure. 256 00:11:16,587 --> 00:11:18,587 Speaker 2: Good stuff. Well, stoke to have you back. Looking forward 257 00:11:18,587 --> 00:11:20,667 Speaker 2: to these Chap the Hadley games just finally. I mean, 258 00:11:20,667 --> 00:11:22,627 Speaker 2: they come thick and fast, don't There's a three games 259 00:11:22,667 --> 00:11:25,387 Speaker 2: in four days. That's going to be an interesting challenge 260 00:11:25,427 --> 00:11:26,307 Speaker 2: for you as well, isn't it. 261 00:11:26,987 --> 00:11:27,187 Speaker 1: Yeah. 262 00:11:27,387 --> 00:11:29,787 Speaker 3: Yeah, thankfully we're all on one spot, so we just 263 00:11:29,787 --> 00:11:30,987 Speaker 3: sort of park up at the Mount for a week, 264 00:11:31,027 --> 00:11:33,547 Speaker 3: so it'll be nice. But yeah, they do come thick 265 00:11:33,587 --> 00:11:35,747 Speaker 3: and fast in the first week of October, so I'm 266 00:11:35,747 --> 00:11:38,587 Speaker 3: hoping whether it plays ball we ever. Yeah, have cracking theories. 267 00:11:38,667 --> 00:11:40,427 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're looking forward to seeing it again. Great to 268 00:11:40,467 --> 00:11:42,347 Speaker 2: have you back, Kyle, thanks for chatting to us today, mate. 269 00:11:42,387 --> 00:11:44,547 Speaker 2: All the best for the series and for the rest 270 00:11:44,627 --> 00:11:45,387 Speaker 2: of the summer as well. 271 00:11:45,547 --> 00:11:46,627 Speaker 3: Thank you very much, appreciate it. 272 00:11:46,747 --> 00:11:49,107 Speaker 2: No, I appreciate your time, Kyle. Thanks indeed, Kyle Jamison 273 00:11:49,147 --> 00:11:51,427 Speaker 2: there great to have him back. Let's just keep our 274 00:11:51,467 --> 00:11:55,027 Speaker 2: fingers crossed for for no more injuries for Kyle. It's 275 00:11:55,067 --> 00:11:56,907 Speaker 2: been such a wretched time for him and listening to 276 00:11:56,987 --> 00:11:59,147 Speaker 2: him talk there, man, it must have been must have 277 00:11:59,187 --> 00:12:01,707 Speaker 2: been a dark place he got to when you know, 278 00:12:01,827 --> 00:12:03,827 Speaker 2: you think that he thought that he might not play again, 279 00:12:03,947 --> 00:12:06,267 Speaker 2: you know, for a guy who just exploded onto the tests, 280 00:12:06,707 --> 00:12:10,507 Speaker 2: big part of our World Test Championship winning twenty twenty one, 281 00:12:11,347 --> 00:12:15,507 Speaker 2: and to have so much trouble with injuries must have 282 00:12:15,547 --> 00:12:18,107 Speaker 2: been entirely frustrating for him. So it's hope he's out 283 00:12:18,427 --> 00:12:21,187 Speaker 2: the back of that. Keep our fingers crossed, Stephen on 284 00:12:21,227 --> 00:12:23,747 Speaker 2: textas Willow Rock Jason seems to be missing from that lineup, 285 00:12:23,787 --> 00:12:26,347 Speaker 2: when would he be available again? To add even more depth? 286 00:12:26,427 --> 00:12:28,267 Speaker 2: Good questions, Steve and I can answer it too, because 287 00:12:28,867 --> 00:12:30,667 Speaker 2: Willow Rourke has yet to be out of action for 288 00:12:30,867 --> 00:12:34,907 Speaker 2: at least three months after scans revealed a stress fracture 289 00:12:34,947 --> 00:12:38,147 Speaker 2: in his lower back. So goodness mean, let's just hope 290 00:12:38,147 --> 00:12:39,907 Speaker 2: that Willow Rourke doesn't go through the same sort of 291 00:12:39,987 --> 00:12:42,547 Speaker 2: thing that Kyle Jamison has. He's only twenty four. Willow Rourke. 292 00:12:42,867 --> 00:12:44,787 Speaker 2: He's sustained the injury while bowling in the first Test 293 00:12:44,827 --> 00:12:49,147 Speaker 2: against Zimbabwe and returned home to undergo further assessment. A 294 00:12:49,227 --> 00:12:51,907 Speaker 2: Rob Walter, the coach, says he'll undergo a three month 295 00:12:52,147 --> 00:12:56,387 Speaker 2: strength and conditioning block before being reassessed to ascertain a 296 00:12:56,427 --> 00:12:58,547 Speaker 2: return to bowling and a return to play. 297 00:12:58,627 --> 00:12:58,987 Speaker 3: So there you go. 298 00:12:59,067 --> 00:13:01,947 Speaker 2: We won't see Willow Rock the side of Christmas, so 299 00:13:02,067 --> 00:13:03,667 Speaker 2: that rules them out of those Test matches against the 300 00:13:03,707 --> 00:13:06,307 Speaker 2: West Indies in December, but also all the White Bulls 301 00:13:06,347 --> 00:13:09,907 Speaker 2: stuff to come this Chapel Hadley whiteball games against England 302 00:13:09,947 --> 00:13:11,227 Speaker 2: and the West Indies, so I once see will I 303 00:13:11,307 --> 00:13:13,347 Speaker 2: Rock in any of that. Let's hope we get past Christmas, 304 00:13:13,667 --> 00:13:15,987 Speaker 2: the strength and conditioning program goes well and he is 305 00:13:16,067 --> 00:13:17,827 Speaker 2: back into it in twenty twenty six. 306 00:13:18,787 --> 00:13:21,947 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 307 00:13:22,067 --> 00:13:25,347 Speaker 1: to News Talk Set B weekends from midday, or follow 308 00:13:25,387 --> 00:13:26,947 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.