1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,719 Speaker 1: Is the number of commuters speaking of Auckland using Auckland's 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: News City rail Link from next year to travel in 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: and out of the city could be much lower than 4 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: first thought. It was meant to be twenty seven thousand 5 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: a peak. Latest forecasts revised down now just nineteen thousand 6 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: commutts expected for beck CEO Heart of the city with 7 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: me this morning, Hey, viv Hello, Are you worried about 8 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: the forecast coming down like that? 9 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely? I mean, seriously, it's a relief to be actually 10 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: talking about opening, but the numbers are really concerning and 11 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: on the fate of it, this won't take us back 12 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 2: to the numbers we had before construction started. 13 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: So we've spent five point six billion dollars for. 14 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: What well, I mean, I think people are positive about 15 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: the CRL. It will bring people quicker and faster into 16 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: potential city, all those things. However, talking about financial viability 17 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: has to extend the people affected for the last decade, 18 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: and also we've got to be sensible about how people 19 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: get here. We need people to be able to get here. 20 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: There's been an absolute obsession to remove cars. Taxis make 21 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: it difficult on many many levels. And if these numbers 22 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: are telling us. We're going to be way down and 23 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: what was proposed, and there's a major problem. There has 24 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: to be accountability and there has to be a major 25 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: change in how access and business impacts are managed in 26 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: the CEA Center. 27 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, because when they brought this out, they said we 28 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: would get twenty seven thousand at peak. To quote them, 29 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: this is kibiral. This is all part of the funding, 30 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: all part of enabling the sour Ol Day one capacity 31 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: increased to twenty seven thousand passion trips. I mean they 32 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 1: told us that number when they were wanting the money 33 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: and the public support, and now that we're nearly finished, 34 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: they are actually saying no, no, no, we don't want 35 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: to oversupply. This has just been I mean, what is this. 36 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: Oh look, it's outrageous at fifty four thousand was the 37 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: number that was first out and I know a number 38 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: of businesses remember that figure very very clearly, and there 39 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: were changes is made to get to the capacity. Now 40 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: it clearly looks like we're going to have to grow 41 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 2: into this. And you know, we're optimistic looking out, but 42 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: right here and now, the financial impact it has been 43 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: as incredibly hard as I'm sure you will recall. To 44 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: get the financial impacts on the businesses effective even listened to, 45 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: let alone any sort of decent support for them. So 46 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 2: it's pretty rich to hear this now, and I do 47 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: think there needs to be accountability. Look, we are really 48 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 2: concerned with how access business impacts have been managed for 49 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: a very long time. Here we keep getting you know, 50 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: it gets fobbed away as this is all going to 51 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: come right when this thing opens. It's clearly going to 52 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 2: take time to get to the numbers needed. And it's 53 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: not okay that the effects they've had. I mean, the 54 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: real is you look at some of the streets, they've 55 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 2: basically compromised access for people with a nobility disabilities needing 56 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: service and loading, and there's some extraordinarily bad decisions that 57 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: have been made on the basis at by day one, 58 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: we need this thing perfect. 59 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: VIVI appreciate your time this morning, Vivi Beck, Heart of 60 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: the City, Chief Executive twenty For 61 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: More from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, Listen live to 62 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 2: News Talks at b from five am weekdays, or follow 63 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.