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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at B. Start your weekend off in style.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Francesca Rudkin in for Jack Tame and

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Speaker 1: BE Pure Quality Supplements for Essential Energy News Talk sat B.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Saturday Mornings with Jack Tame. I'm Francesca Rudkin

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Speaker 2: filling in for Jack. Jack is off preparing for fatherhood,

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Speaker 2: which is very exciting. He's at his anti natal class today,

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Speaker 2: but he will be back with you next week. Coming

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Speaker 2: up on the show today, our film reviewer Chris Schultz

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Speaker 2: reviews a religious horror for you, You Grant of All People,

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Speaker 2: but if that's a bit much heading into Christmas. He

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Speaker 2: also reviews Lindsay Loewen's latest Christmas movie, which landed on

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Speaker 2: Netflix this week. Nikki Works has a delicious sounding mango

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Speaker 2: ice cream recipe for us. This morning and after ten,

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Speaker 2: we celebrate the twentieth anniversary of the Black Seeds album,

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Speaker 2: their breakthrough album, You Could Say On the Sun. Black

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Speaker 2: Seeds member Dan Wheatman joins us. Francesca so I started

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Speaker 2: counting headlines about Air New Zealand two weeks ago after

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Speaker 2: my flight from Nelson to Auckland was delayed by about

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Speaker 2: an hour. Then last Saturday, my partner flight from Napier

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Speaker 2: to Auckland was delayed after a bird strike. Neither delay

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Speaker 2: were hugely consequential, just a little bit irritating, but since

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Speaker 2: then there've been a number of press articles about issues

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Speaker 2: with planes. On the thirtieth and November and Air New

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Speaker 2: Zealand planes sat on the tarmac in Hong Kong for

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Speaker 2: hours before being canned after a fuel fould and then

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Speaker 2: Crui sickness, and Air New Zealand flight from Wellington to

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Speaker 2: after engine problems, and a flight from Gisbon to Auckland

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Speaker 2: on December the second returned to Gisbon after engine problems.

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Speaker 2: The plan landed safely after shutting down an engine shortly

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Speaker 2: after departure. Investigations are underway for both engine issues. Anecdotally,

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Speaker 2: you don't have to search too hard to find someone

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Speaker 2: who'll share a story of a flight delayed or canceled,

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Speaker 2: often at the last minute. So it got me wondering

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Speaker 2: if we're experiencing more incidents, delays and cancellations than before.

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Speaker 2: Are we so are we experiencing more or are we

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Speaker 2: just complaining more? Do we feel we can complain more

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Speaker 2: because quite often we're paying good money to fly around

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Speaker 2: our little country. Recent figures released by the Ministry of

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Speaker 2: Transport which compared Jetstar and Air New Zealand services on

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Speaker 2: the main trunk jet routes that they compete on, so

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Speaker 2: that in September this year, Air New Zealand recorded eighty

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Speaker 2: eighty point four percent for on time departase that was

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Speaker 2: within fifteen minutes of schedule, and Jet Star was on

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Speaker 2: seventy eight percent. For on time arrivals, Air New Zealand

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Speaker 2: recorded eighty two point one percent, Jetstar eighty point six.

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Speaker 2: But in January this year, Air New Zealand was sitting

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Speaker 2: at eighty eight percent. It dropped to seventy seven percent

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Speaker 2: in March this year, so reliability has fluctuated throughout the year.

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Speaker 2: Another interesting figure, Air New Zealand's cancelation rate was one

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Speaker 2: point four percent, more than twice Jet Stars which was

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Speaker 2: zero point six percent. So yeah, the stats could be better.

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Speaker 2: We all accept airlines can't control weather that Air New

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Speaker 2: Zealand has had other issues to grapple with planes out

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Speaker 2: of action due to high global demand for engine maintenance

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Speaker 2: meant that ten jets were out of service in the

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Speaker 2: first half of this financial year. It's not expected that

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Speaker 2: this will be sorted until twenty twenty six. On top

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Speaker 2: of this, the travel market has been a mixed bag,

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Speaker 2: leading the airline to announce this week, Oh let's see,

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Speaker 2: I stopped counting the headlines. By this point they will

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Speaker 2: be running fewer flights on some domestic routes in twenty

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Speaker 2: A one point four percent cancelation rate is actually tiny

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Speaker 2: in the overall scheme of things, but when combined with

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Speaker 2: all the other disruptions and the high prices, Air New

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Speaker 2: Zealand has its challenges cut out for them. For so

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Speaker 2: long they have been a beloved New Zealand brand, but

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Speaker 2: since COVID it's been like pushing a dreamliner uphill. Have

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Speaker 2: you run out of patience? Yet? The Air New Zealand

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Speaker 2: service and staff may be fabulous, but as long as

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Speaker 2: it'll be difficult to quiet those headlines for a while.

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Speaker 2: Yet Francisco, So I am curious to hear from you

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Speaker 2: whether you have run out of patients. I actually flew

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Speaker 2: But I'm at the point now where I am going

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Speaker 2: to shop around keen to hear from you. Ninety two

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Speaker 1: There'd be no better way to kick off your weekend

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Speaker 1: than with Francesco Saturday Mornings with Francesca Rudkin in for

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Speaker 1: Jack Taime and Be Pure Quality Supplements for Essential Energy.

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Speaker 2: News Talks at b and as always here on Saturday mornings,

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Speaker 2: we'd like to kick off the little dose of Kevin

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Speaker 2: Melaney joined us.

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Speaker 3: Now, Good morning, Good morning, Francesca. Yes, I have run

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Speaker 3: out of patience. I have run out of patience. I

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Speaker 3: ran out of patients years ago when actually in New

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Speaker 3: it was, yeah, weird behavior.

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Speaker 2: Really, I'm a bit of a slow adapter and I'm

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Speaker 2: ridiculously loyal. I've been saying I'm going to leave my

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm ridiculously loyal within New Zealand. I thought in

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Speaker 4: I thought they were really.

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Speaker 3: My favorite New Zealand firm.

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Speaker 3: Things have just gone rapidly downhill, as you pointed out.

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Speaker 3: And at the same time, I think Jets have lifted

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Speaker 3: their acts so much, as you say, they're so much

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Speaker 3: cheaper on some clients. Definitely worth shopping around now.

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Speaker 2: And look, and I feel for anything on because it

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just been a very unfortunate sort of

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Speaker 2: really difficult. I just don't think they're going to get

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Speaker 2: out of it in a hurry unfortunately. Anyway, let's talk

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Speaker 2: about some edgy art that you've recently gave.

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Speaker 3: On the Higher Matters Pleasure on the Saturday, because I

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Speaker 3: want to talk about art, which I suspect also an

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Speaker 3: No it is.

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Speaker 2: I do have a degree in art history and a

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Speaker 3: This week I saw the huge and impressive Banks the

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Speaker 3: like one exhibition painting live animals, at another releasing two

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Speaker 3: You could take your choice, go or go home. I'd

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Speaker 3: street artist. Funnily enough, the week before I'd bought an

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Speaker 3: oil painting by a former New Zealand Krim Simon Kerr.

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Speaker 3: Simon was the leader of the Hole on Wall gang

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Speaker 3: where he discovered he had a talent for painting. I

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Speaker 3: portrait of himself as the pirate Blackbeard. Now this large

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Speaker 3: to put a side to Corum and let fly with

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Speaker 3: why the hell have you got that painting of black

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Speaker 3: And so you see my link between him and Banksy

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Speaker 3: in a way. I don't know how you answer a

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Speaker 2: I was going to ask what the answer was.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well I had the answer here at the Banksy exhibition.

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Speaker 3: Banksy himself quotes no less than eleanor Roosevelt quote the

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Speaker 4: Do you like that quote?

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Speaker 1: I do?

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Speaker 2: Which one is it doing more for you?

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Speaker 3: I'm actually, in a way, I'm slightly pleasantly surprised at

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Speaker 3: really a picture of black Beard. Have you seen that

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Speaker 2: I haven't. But I think the thing to remember is

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Speaker 2: story is really interesting. But the art has to sort

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Speaker 2: of speak for itself, doesn't it. It has to be as

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Speaker 2: you know, it has to be. It's the work that matters,

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Speaker 2: I suppose is what I'm trying to say. Is the backstory,

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Speaker 3: They It was a hell of a I actually put

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Speaker 3: just need, which would have taken out the painting quite

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Speaker 3: a lot of my wife's favorite crockery. Why do men

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Speaker 2: Well, now you can just sit and enjoy your extraoriny

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Speaker 2: new piece of art. Hey, if you do love Banksy

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Speaker 2: and if anyone else has been to that exhibition and

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Speaker 2: really enjoyed it. He released a film. It was called

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Speaker 2: Exit through the Gift Shop and it was released in

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Speaker 2: twenty ten. It's a British documentary and film by artist Banksy,

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Speaker 2: and it's a really great doco that's while worth catching,

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Speaker 2: I think you're probably going to have to pay for

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Speaker 2: it to watch it on a streaming service.

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Speaker 7: But he.

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Speaker 2: Tells a story of a French immigrant actually who was

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Speaker 2: and Los Angeles who filmed a whole lot of street artists,

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Speaker 2: so it sort of follows along that path. Anyway. It's

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Speaker 2: really really well done. If anyone's looking for a film recommendation,

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Speaker 2: that's a movie that banks he made. It's great.

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Speaker 4: I saw some reference to that in the show actually,

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Speaker 4: and I love to see the whole thing. It's yeah,

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Speaker 4: he's such a highly intelligent dude, doesn't he really?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Very much.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, it is going to be wonderful one day Kevin

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Speaker 2: to work out who he actually is. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Nice to talk to you. Andrew Saville. Is what us

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Speaker 2: next with sport twenty two past nine?

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Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started? It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team

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Speaker 2: Hey, let's talk about something we all face during the holidays,

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Speaker 4: Good morning morning, Francisca.

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Speaker 2: I'm really good, thank you, and I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 4: That's what makes it so intrigue. And still, you know,

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Speaker 2: I love it. There we go a bit of optimism

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Speaker 2: I'm really taken back, Andrew at how this team has

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's been a fantastic start. Thanks so much, Andrew.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: If you love Hugh Grant and you do not want

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Speaker 2: his new film. It's called Heretic. He plays. It's a

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Speaker 2: So just how good is this a film? Chris Schultz

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Speaker 2: twenty seven to ten times out.

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Speaker 10: Take it Away to the dark Side Your.

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Speaker 2: So, despite being more than a decade old, this song

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Speaker 2: isn't it, Folks. Later in the show, we're going to

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Speaker 7: Good morning, Francesca.

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Speaker 12: I'm not revealing my number one either, because my daughter

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Speaker 2: I don't even understand the lyrics. I was just absolutely mortified.

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Speaker 2: I was like, who is this? So I go and

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Speaker 2: let's move on. We're going to talk about heretic. Let's

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Speaker 13: Are you interested in learning more about the Church of

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Speaker 13: Jesus christis Come on it.

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Speaker 2: We just need to go home.

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Speaker 1: I won't keep you if you wish to leave, but

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Speaker 2: So about this time of the year, Chris, most people

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Speaker 7: Totally true.

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Speaker 12: That is the wrong time a year to be releasing

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Speaker 12: At Halloween. We're all going to the beach, We're celebrating Christmas.

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Speaker 12: But yes, Hugh Grant is in this. This is a

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Speaker 7: But he's been pretty open.

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Speaker 7: So he's doing some weird stuff. We last saw him.

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Speaker 12: And Willie Wonka playing an mpolumpa, and here he is

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Speaker 12: This is the best reason to get to a cinema

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Speaker 12: of go on this religious journey. He takes them on

433
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Speaker 12: this kind of cat and mouse journey trying to teach

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Speaker 12: them about religion. This film has so much to say,

435
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Speaker 12: almost too much to say about religion.

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Speaker 7: The downside of it is the monologues in it.

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Speaker 12: They almost overuse Hugh Grant. A little bit less is

438
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Speaker 12: often more in these kinds of movies. But then he

439
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Speaker 12: sort of launches into these monologues about religion and why

440
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Speaker 12: it's wrong, and then he sort of has these metaphors

441
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Speaker 12: where he's using radiohead songs. He sings Radioheads creep, he

442
00:25:08,013 --> 00:25:11,053
Speaker 12: brings in Judge our Binks from Star Wars. There's a

443
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Speaker 12: whole five minute sequence that equates monopoly to religion that

444
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Speaker 12: I'm still kind of getting my head around. So the

445
00:25:17,933 --> 00:25:20,013
Speaker 12: first half of the movie is all set up and

446
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Speaker 12: when you get to the second half, it's great, but

447
00:25:22,933 --> 00:25:24,253
Speaker 12: it just takes a little too.

448
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Speaker 7: Long to get there.

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Speaker 12: But Hugh Grant fantastic, I mean, this is I hope

450
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Speaker 12: he does more of this.

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Speaker 7: He's he's just so good it.

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Speaker 12: I really hope this is like a new thing that

453
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Speaker 12: he's just in like all of the horror movies now,

454
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Speaker 12: because he's so good at it.

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Speaker 2: There's something a little bit different, some lighter christmasphere. We're

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Speaker 2: going to have it. Listen to the trainer for our

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Speaker 2: little secret. Imagine us.

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Speaker 14: I'm spending the holidays with my boyfriend's family for the

459
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Speaker 14: first time.

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Speaker 2: This is for you.

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Speaker 14: Look it's his script talk that's from Easy.

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Speaker 15: Here is all.

463
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Speaker 14: He has a lot of family members too many to remember,

464
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Speaker 14: and his sister is also bringing someone I want you

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Speaker 14: to meet by.

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Speaker 2: My axe busted. So my first question for your here, Chris,

467
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Speaker 2: is did you finish this film.

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Speaker 7: That is an excellent question.

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Speaker 12: I'm not going to respond I had it on in

470
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Speaker 12: the background.

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Speaker 7: Let's put it that way.

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Speaker 12: No, there are some bonkers Christmas movies around this year.

473
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Speaker 12: I read one complete box office disaster with Chris Evans

474
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Speaker 12: and the Rock trying to save Center. Hot Frosty, a

475
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Speaker 12: Netflix rom com in which a woman falls in love

476
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Speaker 12: with a ripped snowman who comes to life. But Our

477
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Speaker 12: Little Secret is on Netflix. This might be the weirdest

478
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Speaker 12: one of them all. This is part of the Lindsay

479
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Speaker 12: lohand comeback train that she's on. She's she's made a

480
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Speaker 12: few Netflix movies now she's she's sorted her life out.

481
00:26:54,653 --> 00:26:56,573
Speaker 12: She was a tabloid disaster for a long time, and

482
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Speaker 12: she's she's making movies again. She's actually a pretty good actor.

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Speaker 12: She's not the problem with Our Little Secret. The problem

484
00:27:03,133 --> 00:27:08,533
Speaker 12: is kind of everything else. It's just such strange film.

485
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Speaker 12: It's got this weird opening with like they go through

486
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Speaker 12: like ten years of highlights and most of them are

487
00:27:18,293 --> 00:27:22,933
Speaker 12: like Netflix things. There's a weird weed gummy sequence in

488
00:27:22,973 --> 00:27:27,573
Speaker 12: a church. It's about Lindsay Lohan. Her character goes home

489
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Speaker 12: with her new partner to meet the in laws and

490
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Speaker 12: then an X is there from ten years ago, and

491
00:27:32,453 --> 00:27:34,493
Speaker 12: they decide not to tell them that they know each other.

492
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Speaker 12: And obviously this is a rom com, so you can

493
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Speaker 12: see what's going to happen. But it's just it's so strange.

494
00:27:41,813 --> 00:27:45,333
Speaker 12: The characters sort of seem like they're all in different films.

495
00:27:46,173 --> 00:27:48,333
Speaker 12: They yell out lines that just don't make sense. At

496
00:27:48,333 --> 00:27:51,533
Speaker 12: one point, one character yelled out touche, but nothing that

497
00:27:51,573 --> 00:27:53,453
Speaker 12: had been building up to that moment.

498
00:27:54,653 --> 00:27:56,773
Speaker 7: Need like he had no reason to say it.

499
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Speaker 12: So you almost like need to watch this, like you

500
00:27:59,373 --> 00:28:03,013
Speaker 12: watch Tommy Wizzau's of the Room kind of ironically, maybe

501
00:28:03,053 --> 00:28:05,053
Speaker 12: have some drinking games, and I think you could have

502
00:28:05,093 --> 00:28:06,733
Speaker 12: a good time, like if you had a whole bunch

503
00:28:06,773 --> 00:28:09,213
Speaker 12: of friends or family over. Yeah, and you watch this

504
00:28:09,333 --> 00:28:11,813
Speaker 12: because it's almost so bad that it's good. It falls

505
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Speaker 12: into that kind of character.

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Speaker 2: It left me asking the question when did Christmas movies

507
00:28:17,693 --> 00:28:21,053
Speaker 2: become all about romance and why? And then I went

508
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Speaker 2: down a rabbit hole and I really didn't get an

509
00:28:22,973 --> 00:28:25,853
Speaker 2: answer for it, except it's the season of love. We

510
00:28:25,893 --> 00:28:30,213
Speaker 2: all want good happy stories. Everybody you know. Apparently there's

511
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Speaker 2: an America anyway. This is a pressure to bring home

512
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Speaker 2: a partner, you know, at Christmas time. Basically, I've decided

513
00:28:36,773 --> 00:28:38,293
Speaker 2: Christmas movies don't like single people.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, well there is actually a good example, right, Kristen

515
00:28:41,733 --> 00:28:43,973
Speaker 12: Stewart did Happiest Season like four or.

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Speaker 7: Five years ago.

517
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Speaker 5: I want to see.

518
00:28:45,373 --> 00:28:49,173
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a really good Christmas movie. You can do it.

519
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Speaker 7: It's just I don't know.

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Speaker 12: We've all got our favorites, right, we all go back

521
00:28:51,973 --> 00:28:53,013
Speaker 12: and just play the classics.

522
00:28:53,013 --> 00:28:55,373
Speaker 7: In our house is alf and Home Alone. We watch

523
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Speaker 7: those every year.

524
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Speaker 12: To make a new Christmas movie that joins that canon

525
00:28:59,653 --> 00:29:02,613
Speaker 12: is so impossibly hard because you're fighting against, you know,

526
00:29:02,733 --> 00:29:06,013
Speaker 12: fifty years of film that everyone's already attached to their

527
00:29:06,053 --> 00:29:06,893
Speaker 12: favorite films.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Chris for putting yourself through that.

529
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Speaker 2: That's our little secret is screening on Netflix, and if

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Speaker 2: you want to head to the cinema's heretic it is

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Speaker 2: an R sixteen as well. Just bear that in mind.

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Speaker 2: Coming up after ten this morning, Dan Weatman from The

533
00:29:19,733 --> 00:29:21,333
Speaker 2: Black Seeds is going to join me to talk about

534
00:29:21,333 --> 00:29:23,333
Speaker 2: being in the biz for over twenty five years, what's

535
00:29:23,453 --> 00:29:26,293
Speaker 2: changed in the music industry over that time, and what hasn't.

536
00:29:27,653 --> 00:29:31,493
Speaker 2: Next up, though Mango I scream sixteen to ten.

537
00:29:33,133 --> 00:29:36,773
Speaker 1: Saturday mornings with Francesca Rudgin in for Jack daim keeping

538
00:29:36,773 --> 00:29:41,213
Speaker 1: the conversation going through the weekend with Bepewer Polity settlements

539
00:29:41,213 --> 00:29:42,973
Speaker 1: for a sedual energy news talks.

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Speaker 2: That'd be thank you for your feedback this morning. Text here,

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Speaker 2: interesting thing about Air New Zealand flights. I think to

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00:29:49,733 --> 00:29:52,613
Speaker 2: improve on time stats. Is it a while ago they

543
00:29:52,653 --> 00:29:55,893
Speaker 2: increased some flight times by five to ten minutes. For example,

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Speaker 2: Wellington Auckland used to be one hour and is now

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Speaker 2: one hour five That is interesting. Thank you for that.

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Speaker 2: The text continues. I think for Jetstar it's that they

547
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Speaker 2: have no backup planes or can't change schedules easily with

548
00:30:07,573 --> 00:30:09,493
Speaker 2: the small feat so when they have no problems they

549
00:30:09,533 --> 00:30:12,773
Speaker 2: are fine, but any delay then ricochets throughout the day.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for your text, Thomas. Another one here. I'd much

551
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Speaker 2: rather in New Zealand but overcautious with their planes and

552
00:30:19,013 --> 00:30:21,133
Speaker 2: being delayed isn't a problem for me, but I'd be

553
00:30:21,173 --> 00:30:24,253
Speaker 2: pretty upset when we run into trouble thirty thousand feet

554
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Speaker 2: in Yet couldn't agree with you more muss and that's

555
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Speaker 2: why you know when my partner was told, oh, look

556
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Speaker 2: there's been a bird strike. We've got to get someone

557
00:30:29,293 --> 00:30:30,693
Speaker 2: and we've got to make sure it's all fine. We're like,

558
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Speaker 2: take your time. You know, no one wants to get

559
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Speaker 2: on a plane where there could be a potential problem.

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Speaker 2: So that and it wasn't a problem, and it was

561
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Speaker 2: just a bit annoying, but you know, Tim got home

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Speaker 2: in time for the dance show and everything was you know,

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Speaker 2: the world carried on. It really wasn't a big deal.

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Speaker 2: So I couldn't agree with you more there. You know,

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Speaker 2: we need to make sure that safety comes first. But

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Speaker 2: definitely a lot of you are texting just with your stories,

567
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Speaker 2: especially talking about the regions, and without that competition, there

568
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Speaker 2: seems to be a lack of care. At the end

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Speaker 2: of the day, they are a company and they are

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Speaker 2: there to make money. I don't have a problem, you know,

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Speaker 2: obviously supply demand. They've got a whole lot of other issues.

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Speaker 2: He spending thirty five million per upgrading each Dreamliner at

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Speaker 2: the moment, which is going on a rolling schedule. They've got,

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Speaker 2: you know, other things imposed on them that we're out

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Speaker 2: of their control. And we do want them to be

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Speaker 2: a successful, profitable company, you know, don't have a problem

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Speaker 2: with that. I think it just comes down to trying

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Speaker 2: to find a way with all these challenges to just

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Speaker 2: become more reliable and keep us little Kiwis flying with them.

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Speaker 2: And thank you very much for your text. Exit through

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Speaker 2: the gift shop available on Beam A Film. I mentioned

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585
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Speaker 2: watch the film at your leisure, so thank you for that.

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Speaker 2: Joining me now is Nikki Wiks. Good morning, Nikki, Good

587
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Speaker 2: morning Francesca. I don't think I've ever eaten mango ice cream,

588
00:32:03,973 --> 00:32:06,733
Speaker 2: oh my goodness, and I would like me we love

589
00:32:06,773 --> 00:32:10,133
Speaker 2: one right now? Absolutely, yeah, I do. Yeah.

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Speaker 16: Look, I thought about this this week because for those

591
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Speaker 16: of us who were sort of unfortunate enough to be

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Speaker 16: in Auckland and perhaps other places too, on Thursday of

593
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Speaker 16: this week, two days ago, it was so stinking hot.

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Speaker 17: It was just a week ago.

595
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Speaker 16: We were all saying, when a summer going to arrive

596
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Speaker 16: and it's all drizzling and it's cold, Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 16: Thursday was a taste of things to come. And I

598
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Speaker 16: ate four mangoes a last week this week that we

599
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Speaker 16: just had because they are so good at the moment,

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Speaker 16: available in our supermarkets and fruit shops, and they're just

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Speaker 16: at their premium. We're getting these beautiful Australian mangoes. There's

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Speaker 16: a couple of varieties, either Calypso or what's my other favorite?

603
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Speaker 16: R two E two, which sounds like something from Star Walls,

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Speaker 16: I think. And you know you can get. You can

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Speaker 16: get to figure out what your favorite mango is and

606
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Speaker 16: then turn it into this beautiful ice cream. And this

607
00:33:02,453 --> 00:33:04,373
Speaker 16: is so easy. You do need a food process of

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00:33:04,453 --> 00:33:06,733
Speaker 16: fantasca or a blender. Do you have either one of those?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 17: I do?

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Speaker 16: Then you are okay, okay, all right, you're in Hey.

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Speaker 16: Look I call it ice cream, which is a bit

613
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Speaker 16: naughty because ice cream really technically needs to have a

614
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Speaker 16: lot of cream in it. And this, in fact is

615
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Speaker 16: sort of a vegan sort of cheats version just because

616
00:33:20,493 --> 00:33:22,533
Speaker 16: it's easy. What you need is one cup of chopped

617
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Speaker 16: and frozen mango.

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Speaker 6: Now I am encouraging.

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Speaker 16: You to use fresh mango here, but when they're not

620
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Speaker 16: in season, you can get those wonderful packets of frozen

621
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Speaker 16: mango is fine and also tinned mango works, but it

622
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Speaker 16: needs to be frozen because we're making a frozen delight.

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Speaker 16: Here one large banana that's chopped and frozen to and

624
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Speaker 16: I always have those in my freezer. That's you know,

625
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Speaker 16: when the banana gets a little bit old, I either

626
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Speaker 16: turn it into a banana cake or I'll chop it

627
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Speaker 16: up and chuck it in the freezer for smoothies and

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Speaker 16: in this case, ice cream. The banana in any fruit,

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Speaker 16: ice cream gives it the creaminess, it gives it some sweetness.

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Speaker 16: So that's what we're after. Hear so, And then you've

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Speaker 16: got two tablespoons of either coconut cream or milk, or

632
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Speaker 16: you could use cream here, and that really just to

633
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Speaker 16: get it a little bit of looseness as we go,

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Speaker 16: and then place all of those ingredients into the blender

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Speaker 16: and pulse it until it's smooth and creamy. And it

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Speaker 16: will be and you can either serve it straight away.

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Speaker 16: I mean, honestly takes two seconds to make it. You

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Speaker 16: can scoop it into a cone. I don't know whether

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Speaker 16: you when you go and get gelato, Francesca, are you

640
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Speaker 16: a cone or a tub person?

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Speaker 2: I'm a cone girl.

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Speaker 16: Oh well, you are the right sort of person because

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Speaker 16: you get such a you get all the sensations by

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Speaker 16: getting your ice cream in a cone, so I must

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Speaker 16: have mad. I look a little bit down on people

646
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Speaker 16: who get it in the.

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Speaker 2: In the little tubby ice cream.

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Speaker 16: And the reason for that is you're going to get

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Speaker 16: that awful wooden spoon that is just no just sort

650
00:34:49,613 --> 00:34:52,533
Speaker 16: of drag over your toe. Whereas when you are eating

651
00:34:52,533 --> 00:34:55,293
Speaker 16: it from a cone, you're getting this whole malefield. The

652
00:34:55,413 --> 00:34:58,053
Speaker 16: tongue has got so many senses on it, so by

653
00:34:58,133 --> 00:35:00,693
Speaker 16: licking that ice cream, you're just getting this beautiful feeling.

654
00:35:00,813 --> 00:35:03,813
Speaker 16: So this scoops really nicely into some cones, and it's

655
00:35:03,853 --> 00:35:05,893
Speaker 16: fun to have ice cream cones at home, and but

656
00:35:05,933 --> 00:35:07,693
Speaker 16: you feel like a kid anytime you like.

657
00:35:07,813 --> 00:35:09,733
Speaker 2: The only problem is I make a recipe like this

658
00:35:09,813 --> 00:35:11,973
Speaker 2: and it just doesn't last. It's gone, yeah.

659
00:35:11,893 --> 00:35:13,453
Speaker 5: Right, I know, I know, I don't.

660
00:35:13,573 --> 00:35:15,253
Speaker 16: The way to make it last is to not eat

661
00:35:15,253 --> 00:35:17,693
Speaker 16: it immediately. That's my favorite way to do it, is

662
00:35:17,733 --> 00:35:20,173
Speaker 16: to eat it the meating because it's that perfect consistency.

663
00:35:20,853 --> 00:35:23,053
Speaker 16: But if you pop it in the freezer, then of

664
00:35:23,093 --> 00:35:25,373
Speaker 16: course it's going to freeze to quite hut because it

665
00:35:25,373 --> 00:35:27,293
Speaker 16: has got a bit of liquid in there. And so

666
00:35:27,373 --> 00:35:30,733
Speaker 16: my recommendation with in fact, any ice cream that you

667
00:35:30,773 --> 00:35:34,173
Speaker 16: buy or make yourself is always take it out. If

668
00:35:34,173 --> 00:35:37,533
Speaker 16: it's gelato, take it out twenty minutes before serving, and

669
00:35:37,733 --> 00:35:40,693
Speaker 16: if it's ice cream, take it out thirty minutes and

670
00:35:40,733 --> 00:35:43,973
Speaker 16: it just will then soften to the ultimate kind of

671
00:35:44,413 --> 00:35:47,293
Speaker 16: scooping texture. So I just love this. And then you

672
00:35:47,333 --> 00:35:51,133
Speaker 16: can have fun with some garnishes. Manga goes beautifully with coconut,

673
00:35:51,213 --> 00:35:54,173
Speaker 16: so some toasted coconut on the top, maybe a drizzle

674
00:35:54,253 --> 00:35:57,933
Speaker 16: of passion fruit up or something like that. But you

675
00:35:57,933 --> 00:36:01,493
Speaker 16: can go crazy popcorn, sprinkles, crushed crunchy bars, whatever you like.

676
00:36:01,733 --> 00:36:04,173
Speaker 16: And I just think it is such a great way

677
00:36:04,213 --> 00:36:07,293
Speaker 16: to eat ice cream, and mango ice cream is amazing.

678
00:36:07,893 --> 00:36:10,973
Speaker 2: Thank you, oh, thank you so much, Nikki. You can

679
00:36:11,013 --> 00:36:14,253
Speaker 2: get that recipe at Newstalk ZDB dot co dot NZ.

680
00:36:14,413 --> 00:36:16,173
Speaker 2: I think I'll just chug that in a bag and

681
00:36:16,213 --> 00:36:17,893
Speaker 2: take it home and wip that up this weekend. It

682
00:36:18,053 --> 00:36:19,093
Speaker 2: is a seven to ten.

683
00:36:19,853 --> 00:36:22,853
Speaker 1: It's giving you the inside scoop on all you need

684
00:36:22,893 --> 00:36:26,453
Speaker 1: to Know. Saturday Mornings with Francesca Rudkin in for Jack

685
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Speaker 1: Team and be fewer quality supplements for Essential Energy News

686
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Speaker 1: talks ad be.

687
00:36:32,853 --> 00:36:33,053
Speaker 7: Right.

688
00:36:33,133 --> 00:36:35,453
Speaker 2: Well, the Black Seeds have been entertaining us for over

689
00:36:35,533 --> 00:36:38,933
Speaker 2: a quarter of a century, now can you believe it?

690
00:36:38,973 --> 00:36:41,333
Speaker 2: Thanks you a little bit old, doesn't it. Next on

691
00:36:41,373 --> 00:36:43,173
Speaker 2: the show, Dan Weakman is going to join me to

692
00:36:43,213 --> 00:36:46,733
Speaker 2: reflect on their incredible career and to celebrate the twentieth

693
00:36:46,733 --> 00:36:50,013
Speaker 2: anniversary of their second album, was called on the Sun.

694
00:36:50,293 --> 00:36:52,693
Speaker 2: It's having a very special re release and Dan's going

695
00:36:52,733 --> 00:36:54,573
Speaker 2: to tell us all about it. Next, we're going to

696
00:36:54,653 --> 00:36:58,773
Speaker 2: finish the hour with a previously unreleased song. It's called

697
00:36:58,853 --> 00:37:02,173
Speaker 2: Rogan Josh. But this is a song that was a

698
00:37:02,213 --> 00:37:04,933
Speaker 2: live favorite. So if you've seen these guys play live,

699
00:37:04,973 --> 00:37:07,013
Speaker 2: you're probably familiar with song, but they had added it

700
00:37:07,053 --> 00:37:10,933
Speaker 2: on to this twentieth anniversary edition. We will be back shortly.

701
00:37:11,053 --> 00:37:12,693
Speaker 2: I'll leave you with a little bit of the Black Seats.

702
00:38:42,813 --> 00:38:46,613
Speaker 1: A cracking way to start your Saturday. Saturday Mornings with

703
00:38:46,773 --> 00:38:51,253
Speaker 1: Francesca Rutkin in Projective and Be Pure Quality Supplements for

704
00:38:51,373 --> 00:38:53,093
Speaker 1: Esential Energy News Talks at be.

705
00:38:54,893 --> 00:39:02,773
Speaker 18: True is what I get from you get the best

706
00:39:02,893 --> 00:39:03,293
Speaker 18: of me?

707
00:39:06,693 --> 00:39:11,933
Speaker 9: True that you.

708
00:39:13,613 --> 00:39:14,973
Speaker 11: Get the best of me.

709
00:39:16,773 --> 00:39:20,013
Speaker 2: The Black Seeds have been jamming for over a quarter

710
00:39:20,173 --> 00:39:22,853
Speaker 2: of a century. They're infamous for their part in shaping

711
00:39:22,853 --> 00:39:26,453
Speaker 2: the modern Kiwi music scene, and have been blending funk, soul,

712
00:39:26,653 --> 00:39:30,053
Speaker 2: dub and South Pacific influences to develop a uniquely Kiwi

713
00:39:30,093 --> 00:39:34,053
Speaker 2: sound since nineteen ninety eight. Yep, it's been that long.

714
00:39:34,413 --> 00:39:37,853
Speaker 2: To celebrate the twentieth anniversary of the album that really

715
00:39:37,893 --> 00:39:41,653
Speaker 2: gave the band their breakthrough, on the Sun, their second album,

716
00:39:41,733 --> 00:39:45,173
Speaker 2: is having a very special re release, and Dan Watman

717
00:39:45,333 --> 00:39:49,453
Speaker 2: of The Black Seeds joins me, Now, Cura, good morning, Cura.

718
00:39:50,253 --> 00:39:53,613
Speaker 2: I feel really old reading that out. It's a quarter

719
00:39:53,653 --> 00:39:55,493
Speaker 2: of a century, over record of a century.

720
00:39:55,253 --> 00:39:59,493
Speaker 15: Twenty six, I know, it's.

721
00:39:58,773 --> 00:39:59,493
Speaker 2: How does that feel?

722
00:40:01,133 --> 00:40:02,133
Speaker 15: I don't I used to.

723
00:40:02,173 --> 00:40:04,293
Speaker 19: I think in the past I used to say I

724
00:40:04,373 --> 00:40:08,533
Speaker 19: used to feel old. But you feel proud, and I

725
00:40:08,533 --> 00:40:15,053
Speaker 19: think that's what takes over. And also we're still creating music,

726
00:40:15,173 --> 00:40:18,413
Speaker 19: so I'm excited. Just last weekend we're done in Wellington

727
00:40:18,453 --> 00:40:22,253
Speaker 19: working on album eight. And if I was coming here

728
00:40:22,293 --> 00:40:25,573
Speaker 19: and we were just celebrating this and it's twenty years

729
00:40:25,573 --> 00:40:27,773
Speaker 19: and we haven't done an album in five, you know,

730
00:40:27,973 --> 00:40:30,333
Speaker 19: in a long period of time, I think it'd be

731
00:40:30,333 --> 00:40:34,693
Speaker 19: a little bit depressed about that.

732
00:40:34,693 --> 00:40:37,373
Speaker 2: That's a really good point because if I think about

733
00:40:37,493 --> 00:40:39,533
Speaker 2: bands who are touring. There are a lot of bands.

734
00:40:39,533 --> 00:40:42,173
Speaker 2: It's sort of entrend at the moment to have done

735
00:40:42,253 --> 00:40:46,093
Speaker 2: nothing for ten fifteen years and suddenly, you know, older

736
00:40:46,093 --> 00:40:48,333
Speaker 2: bands are hitting the road again, and there seems to

737
00:40:48,373 --> 00:40:49,853
Speaker 2: be a bit of a market for that. But I

738
00:40:49,933 --> 00:40:52,813
Speaker 2: get I can see that little difference that you've got there.

739
00:40:54,253 --> 00:40:56,013
Speaker 2: We're still really productive, and we're.

740
00:40:55,893 --> 00:41:00,533
Speaker 19: Still really productive. I'm really excited. I was saying to

741
00:41:00,613 --> 00:41:04,653
Speaker 19: the boys about before doing a whole lot of media

742
00:41:04,773 --> 00:41:06,213
Speaker 19: to talk about.

743
00:41:06,413 --> 00:41:07,173
Speaker 15: On the sun.

744
00:41:08,613 --> 00:41:13,453
Speaker 19: That I'm just I'm so energized. My soul is energized

745
00:41:13,493 --> 00:41:15,413
Speaker 19: from what we did on the weekend of working on

746
00:41:15,453 --> 00:41:19,213
Speaker 19: this new album, and and that's partly before it because

747
00:41:19,253 --> 00:41:24,573
Speaker 19: it was so productive, and you know, I'm we're old fellas,

748
00:41:24,573 --> 00:41:29,213
Speaker 19: and you kind of start questioning, like where you're at

749
00:41:29,293 --> 00:41:31,973
Speaker 19: and do we carry I mean I do. I'm not

750
00:41:32,013 --> 00:41:33,853
Speaker 19: speaking for the rest of the guys, but you know,

751
00:41:33,973 --> 00:41:38,093
Speaker 19: how long do we do this? And but when I

752
00:41:38,133 --> 00:41:42,453
Speaker 19: come back to the band and we're all together and

753
00:41:42,493 --> 00:41:47,533
Speaker 19: we're creating and people are bringing ideas, it's just exactly

754
00:41:47,573 --> 00:41:50,133
Speaker 19: what I need. It's the medicine that I need. And

755
00:41:50,213 --> 00:41:52,653
Speaker 19: I think that's the same for the guys. And so

756
00:41:53,053 --> 00:41:55,173
Speaker 19: I come here today and I'm just you know, I'm

757
00:41:55,213 --> 00:41:59,613
Speaker 19: excited about twenty years on the Sun, but I'm very

758
00:41:59,653 --> 00:42:01,093
Speaker 19: excited about album.

759
00:42:01,173 --> 00:42:04,293
Speaker 2: Mate, tell me about On the Sun. How formative was

760
00:42:04,333 --> 00:42:07,133
Speaker 2: this album to how the band sounded operate today?

761
00:42:07,893 --> 00:42:13,453
Speaker 19: Well, yeah, I mean it's it's it's such a different band.

762
00:42:13,933 --> 00:42:18,373
Speaker 19: This is on the last last weekend, we had Brett McKenzie,

763
00:42:19,373 --> 00:42:23,333
Speaker 19: you know from Flight of the Concord Fame, come back

764
00:42:23,373 --> 00:42:25,973
Speaker 19: and celebrate because he was playing keys on this album

765
00:42:26,013 --> 00:42:31,573
Speaker 19: and wrote brought Fire the tuned Fire to our attention,

766
00:42:32,333 --> 00:42:38,013
Speaker 19: and we had Shannon Williams on bass and Rich Christy

767
00:42:38,093 --> 00:42:46,213
Speaker 19: on drums. And I think like this period is there's

768
00:42:46,213 --> 00:42:51,333
Speaker 19: a bit of naivety. There's there's just trying to young

769
00:42:51,453 --> 00:42:55,693
Speaker 19: and trying things and trying to achieve that. And I

770
00:42:55,693 --> 00:42:59,813
Speaker 19: think with Lee Prepper, who also recorded it, he's said

771
00:42:59,813 --> 00:43:01,653
Speaker 19: that as well, you know, like how do we get

772
00:43:01,773 --> 00:43:02,373
Speaker 19: you know, we'd.

773
00:43:02,213 --> 00:43:04,813
Speaker 15: Go to Lin say how do we make this sound

774
00:43:05,653 --> 00:43:05,893
Speaker 15: like this?

775
00:43:06,053 --> 00:43:10,813
Speaker 19: And like, oh, yes, well, you know, pully feed us,

776
00:43:11,373 --> 00:43:13,453
Speaker 19: make us feel secure and give us some sort of

777
00:43:13,493 --> 00:43:17,413
Speaker 19: answer and then we'd carry on. And and so we've

778
00:43:17,453 --> 00:43:20,613
Speaker 19: brought in you know, with fire. It's got the funk

779
00:43:20,693 --> 00:43:23,293
Speaker 19: part of it, and you can feel some of those

780
00:43:23,333 --> 00:43:25,653
Speaker 19: elements come into this this album.

781
00:43:26,173 --> 00:43:26,973
Speaker 15: And then.

782
00:43:28,573 --> 00:43:33,533
Speaker 19: You know, when Barney wrote brought the idea so true,

783
00:43:33,893 --> 00:43:35,333
Speaker 19: I personally didn't think.

784
00:43:36,693 --> 00:43:38,013
Speaker 15: I didn't really think too much of it.

785
00:43:38,093 --> 00:43:39,693
Speaker 19: I thought, yeah, that's a love song, and I'm not

786
00:43:39,733 --> 00:43:42,013
Speaker 19: at that stage in my life where I'm thinking about that.

787
00:43:42,173 --> 00:43:44,933
Speaker 15: I'm I've said it before.

788
00:43:44,973 --> 00:43:47,013
Speaker 19: I think I was in my nine inch nails face

789
00:43:47,093 --> 00:43:52,133
Speaker 19: and it still am still love that that heavier type

790
00:43:52,133 --> 00:43:55,493
Speaker 19: of music. And I didn't understand this, this what he

791
00:43:55,573 --> 00:44:00,293
Speaker 19: was saying. And then the music taught me. The song

792
00:44:00,413 --> 00:44:01,973
Speaker 19: taught me wonderful.

793
00:44:01,533 --> 00:44:03,253
Speaker 2: To see it being released on vinyl. Is this the

794
00:44:03,293 --> 00:44:04,773
Speaker 2: first album you've released on vinyl?

795
00:44:05,253 --> 00:44:08,933
Speaker 19: No, We've got that's our first album, Keep on Bushing

796
00:44:09,253 --> 00:44:14,293
Speaker 19: that was released on vinyl. We've got a remix album

797
00:44:14,333 --> 00:44:18,373
Speaker 19: from many years ago that's on vinyl, Into the Dojo

798
00:44:18,453 --> 00:44:22,653
Speaker 19: that's also on vinyl. Classic Album, and that's a that's

799
00:44:22,653 --> 00:44:27,173
Speaker 19: a gold vinyl. Yeah, this one, the double LP.

800
00:44:28,653 --> 00:44:29,653
Speaker 2: Got a new track on there.

801
00:44:30,013 --> 00:44:34,093
Speaker 19: We've got two new tracks on here Rogan Josh and

802
00:44:36,253 --> 00:44:43,893
Speaker 19: so True in Today Muri and and that's that has

803
00:44:43,933 --> 00:44:47,373
Speaker 19: brought it to life again of a song that was

804
00:44:47,373 --> 00:44:53,733
Speaker 19: a romantic song, so true to a song that is

805
00:44:53,733 --> 00:44:54,733
Speaker 19: more of love for.

806
00:44:56,293 --> 00:44:57,453
Speaker 15: Just the message of love.

807
00:44:57,573 --> 00:45:02,293
Speaker 19: I think as where Barney feel's with with that song.

808
00:45:02,413 --> 00:45:05,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting because because you have been around twenty

809
00:45:05,973 --> 00:45:08,813
Speaker 2: six year, you've seen the music industry, I imagine, change

810
00:45:08,813 --> 00:45:11,493
Speaker 2: an awful lot. We've seen the explosion of digital music.

811
00:45:11,533 --> 00:45:14,573
Speaker 2: We're seeing the re emergence of you know, of physical

812
00:45:14,613 --> 00:45:19,333
Speaker 2: media like vinyl and things. Does it actually does any

813
00:45:19,373 --> 00:45:24,933
Speaker 2: of that actually change the way a band functions and

814
00:45:25,053 --> 00:45:26,693
Speaker 2: exists or at the end of the day, is it's

815
00:45:26,693 --> 00:45:29,973
Speaker 2: still just the same. You get together, you write music,

816
00:45:30,333 --> 00:45:33,533
Speaker 2: you create, create the music, record the music to the

817
00:45:33,613 --> 00:45:36,413
Speaker 2: music is it Is it still the same as it

818
00:45:36,493 --> 00:45:36,933
Speaker 2: used to be?

819
00:45:37,613 --> 00:45:41,373
Speaker 19: That is still the same. I don't think that can change.

820
00:45:42,733 --> 00:45:49,973
Speaker 19: I think we have to adjust to social media and

821
00:45:49,973 --> 00:45:52,613
Speaker 19: and what what what do we need to bring? What

822
00:45:52,653 --> 00:45:55,653
Speaker 19: do how much do we share? What are we sharing?

823
00:45:55,813 --> 00:46:00,653
Speaker 19: And and and understanding that and is and you know,

824
00:46:00,693 --> 00:46:03,453
Speaker 19: you can have so many pop ups of like if

825
00:46:03,493 --> 00:46:08,173
Speaker 19: you think posting every day is the way, then it's

826
00:46:08,213 --> 00:46:10,533
Speaker 19: not subscribe to this and.

827
00:46:12,893 --> 00:46:15,733
Speaker 15: The one thing like the creative part of it. Yes,

828
00:46:15,813 --> 00:46:16,773
Speaker 15: that is still the same.

829
00:46:17,693 --> 00:46:21,253
Speaker 19: I guess we have more technology now to record through

830
00:46:21,893 --> 00:46:28,013
Speaker 19: each have an individual interface to record into the last album.

831
00:46:28,853 --> 00:46:33,373
Speaker 19: During COVID we had zoom sessions and me and Niger

832
00:46:33,413 --> 00:46:39,933
Speaker 19: our keyboarders could set share share those sessions and.

833
00:46:38,493 --> 00:46:39,413
Speaker 15: So that was great.

834
00:46:40,053 --> 00:46:43,773
Speaker 19: But yeah, I think like this social media has been

835
00:46:43,773 --> 00:46:48,293
Speaker 19: something that we've had to adjust to. Not everybody's keen

836
00:46:48,333 --> 00:46:52,813
Speaker 19: on sharing in that way, and sometimes you can get

837
00:46:52,813 --> 00:46:58,453
Speaker 19: a bit burnt out of using that device, your phone

838
00:46:58,893 --> 00:47:03,493
Speaker 19: and sharing hey, this is what I've done today, or

839
00:47:03,933 --> 00:47:06,013
Speaker 19: do we have the content to put in there and

840
00:47:06,053 --> 00:47:11,573
Speaker 19: get in those sort of Yeah, And I think but

841
00:47:12,013 --> 00:47:15,933
Speaker 19: the one thing with this social media is that and

842
00:47:15,933 --> 00:47:18,933
Speaker 19: there's changed from the past, is that we can connect

843
00:47:19,413 --> 00:47:23,853
Speaker 19: directly to our fans and that's how I like. That's

844
00:47:23,893 --> 00:47:25,973
Speaker 19: what I love about it is that if someone's got

845
00:47:26,013 --> 00:47:29,453
Speaker 19: the time to message us on you know, recently on

846
00:47:29,493 --> 00:47:36,693
Speaker 19: a post about the fire video and then and you

847
00:47:36,733 --> 00:47:41,893
Speaker 19: can see it instantly how many people are sending great

848
00:47:41,933 --> 00:47:45,733
Speaker 19: messages to it. And it's like we need to message

849
00:47:46,413 --> 00:47:49,013
Speaker 19: back with a sentence and not just a heart. And

850
00:47:50,693 --> 00:47:52,533
Speaker 19: I have to take a step back, like I do

851
00:47:52,573 --> 00:47:54,573
Speaker 19: a bit of the social media, and I have to

852
00:47:54,613 --> 00:47:57,253
Speaker 19: take a step back, and my expectations on the other

853
00:47:57,333 --> 00:48:01,253
Speaker 19: guys are like, no, you're not. It's a headspace right

854
00:48:01,293 --> 00:48:04,413
Speaker 19: to be in there to reply back to somebody that

855
00:48:04,453 --> 00:48:06,973
Speaker 19: you're probably never going to meet. But I think of

856
00:48:07,053 --> 00:48:11,693
Speaker 19: it as that and you can't sell those ideas. Do

857
00:48:11,733 --> 00:48:14,973
Speaker 19: you have to experience it and get your head around it.

858
00:48:14,973 --> 00:48:21,013
Speaker 19: It's like I'm I can't easily message people because because

859
00:48:21,053 --> 00:48:22,933
Speaker 19: I've got my head into that space when I'm not

860
00:48:23,373 --> 00:48:24,853
Speaker 19: burnt out by social media.

861
00:48:25,333 --> 00:48:29,533
Speaker 2: It's interesting you mentioned doing the recording via zoom because

862
00:48:29,733 --> 00:48:32,653
Speaker 2: we think of you as famously a Wellington band, but really,

863
00:48:32,733 --> 00:48:34,053
Speaker 2: is there anyone left to Wellington.

864
00:48:35,813 --> 00:48:39,773
Speaker 19: Ryan Prebble, who's our latest guitarist, has played with us

865
00:48:39,813 --> 00:48:41,333
Speaker 19: for many years overseas.

866
00:48:41,733 --> 00:48:43,133
Speaker 15: He is the only one in Wellington.

867
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Speaker 2: So we've got Wellington is represented. So how does the

868
00:48:47,013 --> 00:48:49,093
Speaker 2: band work? Then, of course you've just been talking about

869
00:48:49,173 --> 00:48:52,493
Speaker 2: that it's a bad work because you just mentioned that

870
00:48:52,893 --> 00:48:55,053
Speaker 2: album number eight is and is in the book. So

871
00:48:55,133 --> 00:48:57,253
Speaker 2: what happens do you do? Do you do a certain

872
00:48:57,293 --> 00:48:59,493
Speaker 2: amount separately and then just sort of come together and

873
00:49:00,373 --> 00:49:01,373
Speaker 2: go through that credit point.

874
00:49:02,013 --> 00:49:05,573
Speaker 19: I mean, it's it's it's hard and you don't want

875
00:49:05,613 --> 00:49:11,213
Speaker 19: to think about it's it's frustrating and which we get

876
00:49:11,213 --> 00:49:16,093
Speaker 19: together like we did on the weekend, all stay in

877
00:49:16,133 --> 00:49:21,333
Speaker 19: the studio and just trying to bring ideas. I brought

878
00:49:21,373 --> 00:49:28,973
Speaker 19: an idea, Barney brings an idea, Johnny our drummer, and

879
00:49:28,973 --> 00:49:31,413
Speaker 19: and we have some other demos that we had from

880
00:49:31,493 --> 00:49:34,253
Speaker 19: the previous session. So it's really in these small pockets

881
00:49:34,253 --> 00:49:38,853
Speaker 19: of time. So when we're down there, it is you know,

882
00:49:39,373 --> 00:49:44,013
Speaker 19: ten o'clock till if it's you know, three in the morning,

883
00:49:44,573 --> 00:49:47,573
Speaker 19: and that's not all of us, it's me and me

884
00:49:47,613 --> 00:49:50,693
Speaker 19: and Barney are very big on Okay, if you've got

885
00:49:50,693 --> 00:49:53,453
Speaker 19: a vocal idea to just just.

886
00:49:53,493 --> 00:49:57,893
Speaker 15: Get down, let's just try it. Usually I'll be there like.

887
00:49:57,933 --> 00:50:03,413
Speaker 19: Doing some percussion, just trying to use up that time

888
00:50:04,533 --> 00:50:08,693
Speaker 19: is just be as productive as possible and usually near

889
00:50:08,733 --> 00:50:11,373
Speaker 19: the end you get a bit burnt out. So yeah,

890
00:50:11,413 --> 00:50:13,693
Speaker 19: over the weekend it was like three point thirty.

891
00:50:14,053 --> 00:50:17,093
Speaker 15: You're in bed. It's hard.

892
00:50:17,493 --> 00:50:20,333
Speaker 2: You mentioned before day jobs, and I think that's a

893
00:50:20,373 --> 00:50:24,813
Speaker 2: reality of being for most musicians in New Zealand, regardless

894
00:50:24,853 --> 00:50:27,453
Speaker 2: of whether you're touring the world or not. What do

895
00:50:27,453 --> 00:50:27,693
Speaker 2: you do.

896
00:50:28,293 --> 00:50:32,493
Speaker 19: I am a height safety supervisor.

897
00:50:32,573 --> 00:50:34,253
Speaker 15: We install.

898
00:50:35,373 --> 00:50:39,053
Speaker 19: Height safety systems like letters that probably get into this

899
00:50:39,173 --> 00:50:44,133
Speaker 19: building anchor points that you would have up there. So

900
00:50:44,253 --> 00:50:48,173
Speaker 19: I'm we're making it safe access. And so I supervise

901
00:50:49,533 --> 00:50:53,933
Speaker 19: young little crews for this company technical Rigging Services, which

902
00:50:53,973 --> 00:50:56,613
Speaker 19: my boss will be stoked about to get that on there.

903
00:50:56,653 --> 00:50:59,173
Speaker 2: And I really wasn't expecting you were going to say.

904
00:50:59,013 --> 00:51:02,133
Speaker 19: That, oh, the height safety supervisor.

905
00:51:02,613 --> 00:51:04,773
Speaker 2: I'm teaching or I work here, you know, like it's

906
00:51:04,773 --> 00:51:08,053
Speaker 2: sort of something within within. I like that that you've

907
00:51:08,053 --> 00:51:10,293
Speaker 2: got two different worlds. Although that is quite that'd be

908
00:51:10,373 --> 00:51:12,093
Speaker 2: quite a new racking job. You've got to get that right.

909
00:51:12,413 --> 00:51:13,773
Speaker 15: Yeah, you have to get that right.

910
00:51:15,813 --> 00:51:16,093
Speaker 3: I think.

911
00:51:17,133 --> 00:51:17,453
Speaker 4: I think.

912
00:51:17,533 --> 00:51:20,733
Speaker 19: I think both my job with the seeds and that

913
00:51:20,853 --> 00:51:26,453
Speaker 19: job have made me I think routine is I need it,

914
00:51:27,013 --> 00:51:31,013
Speaker 19: and the responsibility that I have. I wasn't a supervisor

915
00:51:31,013 --> 00:51:36,053
Speaker 19: before in previous jobs, and that's just put me in

916
00:51:35,453 --> 00:51:41,133
Speaker 19: a good headspace for direction and what's coming next. And

917
00:51:40,853 --> 00:51:45,093
Speaker 19: and I think with the band, dealing with other people

918
00:51:45,653 --> 00:51:51,213
Speaker 19: has been helpful being a supervisor. It's it's not easy

919
00:51:51,213 --> 00:51:53,413
Speaker 19: if anybody would know to.

920
00:51:53,333 --> 00:51:56,653
Speaker 2: Have someone with better health and safety kind of consciousness.

921
00:51:56,733 --> 00:52:02,293
Speaker 20: Yeah, yeah, the one of those guys is like, yeah,

922
00:52:02,333 --> 00:52:04,613
Speaker 20: they shouldn't have that post for a backstage. It's like

923
00:52:05,133 --> 00:52:08,933
Speaker 20: someone cover this cable play cones and barriers over here.

924
00:52:08,973 --> 00:52:11,773
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it, Oh Dan, It's been

925
00:52:11,813 --> 00:52:14,653
Speaker 2: really good to talk to you. Enjoy celebrating this album.

926
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Speaker 15: Thank you.

927
00:52:15,293 --> 00:52:17,173
Speaker 2: So wait for the album number eight? When can we

928
00:52:17,213 --> 00:52:18,253
Speaker 2: expect that.

929
00:52:17,893 --> 00:52:20,133
Speaker 15: That's going to be next year? Yeah?

930
00:52:20,213 --> 00:52:24,333
Speaker 19: So yeah, you can get on the Sun. There's about

931
00:52:24,333 --> 00:52:27,053
Speaker 19: a thousand of these, like I was saying, have been pressed,

932
00:52:27,253 --> 00:52:31,653
Speaker 19: and yeah we've got the bonus tracks on there as well,

933
00:52:31,893 --> 00:52:34,413
Speaker 19: and just a little beauty.

934
00:52:34,933 --> 00:52:36,733
Speaker 15: Yeah, so enjoy that.

935
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Speaker 2: Thanks for chatting, thank you, and on the Sun. The

936
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Speaker 2: anniversary version is available now right. Ted Danson is back

937
00:52:45,893 --> 00:52:49,173
Speaker 2: in a new He's the lead in a new Netflix show.

938
00:52:49,213 --> 00:52:51,693
Speaker 2: It's called Man on the Inside. Gonna be honest, I

939
00:52:51,693 --> 00:52:54,213
Speaker 2: didn't have great expectations for it, but it is a

940
00:52:54,293 --> 00:52:58,893
Speaker 2: little charmer tied Danson. He is just so incredibly likable.

941
00:52:58,933 --> 00:53:01,093
Speaker 2: I mean I still think of him as Sam from Cheers.

942
00:53:01,413 --> 00:53:04,053
Speaker 2: I just used to love watching that show as a kid. Anyway,

943
00:53:04,093 --> 00:53:07,013
Speaker 2: I am loving this gentle new comedy from him. We're

944
00:53:07,013 --> 00:53:09,853
Speaker 2: gonna hear what Tara Ward thinks of it next. It

945
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Speaker 2: is twenty one past ten. You have Saturday mornings on

946
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Speaker 2: News Talks at B.

947
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948
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Speaker 2: Yes, good to have you with us this morning on

951
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Speaker 2: Saturday Mornings. I am Francesca filling in for Jack. He

952
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Speaker 2: will be back next week, right. Tara Ward joins us

953
00:53:33,573 --> 00:53:38,613
Speaker 2: now for screen time. Good morning, Tara, Good morning. Okay. So,

954
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Speaker 2: as I say every time when I get one of

955
00:53:40,533 --> 00:53:42,173
Speaker 2: your lists, so I do think to myself, I should

956
00:53:42,253 --> 00:53:44,453
Speaker 2: just quickly whip through these and check the check these

957
00:53:44,493 --> 00:53:47,813
Speaker 2: TV shows out and Black Doves, which has just started

958
00:53:47,853 --> 00:53:50,773
Speaker 2: on Netflix is fabulous. I'm loving it.

959
00:53:52,373 --> 00:53:54,733
Speaker 17: Oh my gosh, isn't it great? I thought the same thing.

960
00:53:54,773 --> 00:53:57,013
Speaker 17: I thought. I know, franschhisse God is gonna love this one.

961
00:53:57,013 --> 00:53:59,613
Speaker 17: But this is a fantastic news spy thriller that's just

962
00:53:59,613 --> 00:54:01,653
Speaker 17: come to Netflix, and it comes with an all star

963
00:54:01,773 --> 00:54:05,133
Speaker 17: cast including Kara Knightley, Ben with Shaw, and Sarah Lancashire.

964
00:54:05,133 --> 00:54:07,773
Speaker 17: And whenever I see Sarah Lankash's name in a show

965
00:54:07,893 --> 00:54:10,453
Speaker 17: she's starred, and shows like Happy Valley and Julia, I

966
00:54:10,533 --> 00:54:12,933
Speaker 17: know that it's going to be good. And in Black Doves,

967
00:54:12,973 --> 00:54:15,853
Speaker 17: Kiara Knightley plays Helen, who is a spy who's spent

968
00:54:15,933 --> 00:54:19,613
Speaker 17: the past ten years masquerading as a politician's wife. She's

969
00:54:19,653 --> 00:54:22,853
Speaker 17: married to the British Defense Secretary. She's passing on all

970
00:54:22,893 --> 00:54:26,613
Speaker 17: sorts of state secrets and when her secret lover is murdered,

971
00:54:26,773 --> 00:54:29,373
Speaker 17: she teams up with another spy played by Ben Wishaw,

972
00:54:29,413 --> 00:54:32,253
Speaker 17: who's an assassin, and together they're going to try and

973
00:54:32,253 --> 00:54:34,773
Speaker 17: find out who is behind the murder, and of course

974
00:54:34,813 --> 00:54:39,933
Speaker 17: they uncover this international government conspiracy that inevitably is a

975
00:54:39,933 --> 00:54:42,733
Speaker 17: lot bigger than they think. And Sarah Lancashire plays the

976
00:54:43,173 --> 00:54:45,813
Speaker 17: tough spy boss at the top who's trying to keep

977
00:54:45,853 --> 00:54:49,013
Speaker 17: Helen in check. This is set in December in London,

978
00:54:49,093 --> 00:54:51,853
Speaker 17: so you've got this cold, festive setting for this quite

979
00:54:51,933 --> 00:54:54,653
Speaker 17: tight spy thriller. And I just thought this was a

980
00:54:54,693 --> 00:54:57,813
Speaker 17: lot of fun. It's a bit pulpy, it's funny. There's

981
00:54:57,813 --> 00:54:59,813
Speaker 17: a really dry humor in it, but it pulls you

982
00:54:59,893 --> 00:55:03,133
Speaker 17: in from the opening seconds. It just grabs you straight away.

983
00:55:04,013 --> 00:55:06,853
Speaker 17: You know it's got some spark to it and probably

984
00:55:06,933 --> 00:55:09,533
Speaker 17: a show that you want to suspend. Belief for you know,

985
00:55:09,573 --> 00:55:12,293
Speaker 17: you probably don't want to think about the details too hard.

986
00:55:12,453 --> 00:55:14,933
Speaker 17: But if you want a thriller with lots of action

987
00:55:15,133 --> 00:55:17,733
Speaker 17: and energy and twists this weekend, I don't think you

988
00:55:17,773 --> 00:55:18,693
Speaker 17: can go wrong with No.

989
00:55:18,733 --> 00:55:22,413
Speaker 2: It's one pleasure to dworthy now. Sight Unseen is a

990
00:55:22,453 --> 00:55:24,733
Speaker 2: bit of a different take on sort of the traditional

991
00:55:25,013 --> 00:55:28,693
Speaker 2: police crime drama.

992
00:55:28,893 --> 00:55:31,533
Speaker 17: Yeah, this is a Canadian police drama with a bit

993
00:55:31,573 --> 00:55:34,213
Speaker 17: of a twist. And if you love those kinds of

994
00:55:34,373 --> 00:55:37,813
Speaker 17: weekly network crime dramas like Law and Order or CSI,

995
00:55:37,933 --> 00:55:40,293
Speaker 17: I think you'll enjoy this as well. It's about a

996
00:55:40,293 --> 00:55:44,293
Speaker 17: police detective in Vancouver called Tess who discovers she has

997
00:55:44,333 --> 00:55:47,653
Speaker 17: a degenerative eye condition and is going blind, and she

998
00:55:47,773 --> 00:55:50,933
Speaker 17: makes a mistake on an important case and to right

999
00:55:51,013 --> 00:55:53,533
Speaker 17: or wrong and solve the case, she enlists the help

1000
00:55:53,573 --> 00:55:56,733
Speaker 17: of a seeing guide who she connects with over the

1001
00:55:56,733 --> 00:56:00,293
Speaker 17: Internet and her phone camera, and the seeing guide helps

1002
00:56:00,333 --> 00:56:04,333
Speaker 17: her physically navigate the world and solve this case. The guide, Sonny,

1003
00:56:04,493 --> 00:56:07,693
Speaker 17: is actually three thousand miles away in New York, so

1004
00:56:07,893 --> 00:56:10,533
Speaker 17: they're never in the same room, but together they form

1005
00:56:10,613 --> 00:56:13,733
Speaker 17: this unlikely team and they have to find a balance

1006
00:56:13,773 --> 00:56:17,213
Speaker 17: between helping each other and not getting too tangled up

1007
00:56:17,733 --> 00:56:20,653
Speaker 17: in each other's lives. So on one hand, this is

1008
00:56:20,733 --> 00:56:23,813
Speaker 17: quite a generic police drama and again another show that

1009
00:56:24,813 --> 00:56:27,093
Speaker 17: you know you'll need to suspend belief for because it

1010
00:56:27,133 --> 00:56:31,893
Speaker 17: does push the boundaries of plausibility at times. But I

1011
00:56:31,933 --> 00:56:35,053
Speaker 17: thought it was a really interesting twist for the lead

1012
00:56:35,173 --> 00:56:37,733
Speaker 17: character to have this life changing condition, you know, she

1013
00:56:37,853 --> 00:56:41,613
Speaker 17: experiences the world differently to her colleagues, and that makes

1014
00:56:41,653 --> 00:56:44,053
Speaker 17: the show stand out among a lot of other crime dramas.

1015
00:56:44,053 --> 00:56:46,933
Speaker 17: I think, you know, it raises issues about how we

1016
00:56:46,973 --> 00:56:49,413
Speaker 17: move through the world and how we connect with other people.

1017
00:56:50,053 --> 00:56:52,653
Speaker 17: And it also starts Daniel Gillies, who's a New Zealand

1018
00:56:52,693 --> 00:56:55,453
Speaker 17: actor doing great things overseas. So if you're a crime

1019
00:56:55,493 --> 00:56:57,973
Speaker 17: drama fan, yeah, this is definitely worth checking out as well.

1020
00:56:58,333 --> 00:57:00,213
Speaker 2: At this time of the year, sometimes we're reaching for

1021
00:57:00,453 --> 00:57:03,773
Speaker 2: just something light and enjoyable, just a little something to

1022
00:57:03,813 --> 00:57:06,693
Speaker 2: take the stress of the pressure of the world away.

1023
00:57:07,133 --> 00:57:08,693
Speaker 2: And that was how I was feeling when I clicked

1024
00:57:08,693 --> 00:57:12,133
Speaker 2: on Mann Inside the other day, with absolutely no expectations whatsoever,

1025
00:57:12,733 --> 00:57:14,533
Speaker 2: but I just found it charming.

1026
00:57:16,253 --> 00:57:18,533
Speaker 17: Oh my gosh, it's such a gem. This is a

1027
00:57:18,573 --> 00:57:22,013
Speaker 17: new American comedy on Netflix. The premise of the show

1028
00:57:22,093 --> 00:57:25,333
Speaker 17: is delightfully bonkers, but it stars Ted Danson, who I

1029
00:57:25,333 --> 00:57:27,773
Speaker 17: think is perfect for this role. And it's created by

1030
00:57:27,813 --> 00:57:31,573
Speaker 17: Michael Sher, who is behind shows like Parks and rec

1031
00:57:31,733 --> 00:57:34,493
Speaker 17: and The Good Place and Brooklyn ninety nine, so you

1032
00:57:34,493 --> 00:57:37,053
Speaker 17: know this guy knows how to make comedy. And ted

1033
00:57:37,133 --> 00:57:40,973
Speaker 17: Danson he's seventy six. He plays a retired professor who's

1034
00:57:41,013 --> 00:57:44,493
Speaker 17: recently widowed and is hired by a private detective to

1035
00:57:44,693 --> 00:57:48,573
Speaker 17: infiltrate a rest home in San Francisco. There's a jewelry

1036
00:57:48,613 --> 00:57:51,093
Speaker 17: thief on the loose in the rest home and one

1037
00:57:51,093 --> 00:57:53,213
Speaker 17: of the families of the residents wants to find them,

1038
00:57:53,893 --> 00:57:57,773
Speaker 17: and so ted Danson's character turns amateur detective. He moves in,

1039
00:57:58,013 --> 00:58:00,653
Speaker 17: he becomes a mole, he becomes a man on the inside,

1040
00:58:01,053 --> 00:58:03,293
Speaker 17: and he's got one month to work out who's committing

1041
00:58:03,333 --> 00:58:05,893
Speaker 17: the crimes. But what happens, of course, is that he

1042
00:58:05,933 --> 00:58:09,133
Speaker 17: makes free with all these quirky residents and against his

1043
00:58:09,253 --> 00:58:12,253
Speaker 17: better judgment, gets this brand new lease on life again.

1044
00:58:12,653 --> 00:58:16,533
Speaker 17: It's very gentle, light and heartwarming, and it has these

1045
00:58:16,613 --> 00:58:19,693
Speaker 17: lovely tender moments through it where the characters reflect on

1046
00:58:19,933 --> 00:58:23,533
Speaker 17: life and death and aging and family. I love this.

1047
00:58:23,533 --> 00:58:25,773
Speaker 17: This is a gem. It's there's so much comedic talent

1048
00:58:25,933 --> 00:58:28,613
Speaker 17: and experience here, but it also feels very thoughtful and

1049
00:58:30,133 --> 00:58:32,133
Speaker 17: you know, as you say, charming and genuine. It's just

1050
00:58:32,373 --> 00:58:32,813
Speaker 17: a delight.

1051
00:58:32,853 --> 00:58:32,973
Speaker 6: Now.

1052
00:58:32,973 --> 00:58:35,773
Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more Ted Dance and he's just so likable,

1053
00:58:36,013 --> 00:58:39,213
Speaker 2: isn't he so likable? His comedic timing is just brilliant.

1054
00:58:40,293 --> 00:58:42,493
Speaker 2: And when I was watching at Tara, I thought to myself,

1055
00:58:42,493 --> 00:58:45,253
Speaker 2: hang on, I've seen this. I've seen this premise and

1056
00:58:45,453 --> 00:58:49,093
Speaker 2: it's based on a Chilean documentary called The Mole Agent.

1057
00:58:49,213 --> 00:58:52,613
Speaker 2: So if you've seen that documentary, it will kind of

1058
00:58:52,693 --> 00:58:55,213
Speaker 2: it'll come together in your mind. But I wondered whether

1059
00:58:55,693 --> 00:58:59,813
Speaker 2: sort of the idea around that this is due to

1060
00:58:59,893 --> 00:59:02,013
Speaker 2: kind of the popularity of other sort of shows like

1061
00:59:02,053 --> 00:59:03,253
Speaker 2: Only Murders in the Building.

1062
00:59:04,813 --> 00:59:06,973
Speaker 17: Yes, yeah, I thought the same thing. I thought, if

1063
00:59:06,973 --> 00:59:09,173
Speaker 17: you like Only Medics in the Building, you'll like this too.

1064
00:59:09,293 --> 00:59:12,293
Speaker 17: Just sort of a more relaxed pace, something light to

1065
00:59:12,493 --> 00:59:15,733
Speaker 17: just let wash over you. But but it isn't empty

1066
00:59:15,773 --> 00:59:18,493
Speaker 17: at the same time, you know, there's there's there's beautiful

1067
00:59:18,653 --> 00:59:19,693
Speaker 17: levels to this one.

1068
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Tara. An excellent connection of TV

1069
00:59:22,973 --> 00:59:25,333
Speaker 2: shows for you today, just whipping back through them Black

1070
00:59:25,413 --> 00:59:28,453
Speaker 2: Doves that are screening on Netflix. Do not start it

1071
00:59:28,533 --> 00:59:30,293
Speaker 2: unless you've got some time up your sleep, because you're

1072
00:59:30,293 --> 00:59:32,933
Speaker 2: just going to want to binge through that. Sight Unseen

1073
00:59:33,173 --> 00:59:36,373
Speaker 2: is on three now and Man on the Inside is

1074
00:59:36,413 --> 00:59:39,853
Speaker 2: also on Netflix. It is ten thirty News Talks AB.

1075
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Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team

1076
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Speaker 1: on News Talks edb Doctor.

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Speaker 11: The whole time.

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Speaker 2: This is Blue Eyed Mari by Kerala, the track that

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Speaker 2: took out the number one spot on the most streamed

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Speaker 2: song by a local artist here in New Zealand on

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Speaker 2: this year's Spotify Rapped shouldn't really be a surprise because

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Speaker 2: it also did bag breakthrough Single of the Year at

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Speaker 2: the Music Awards back in May, and Kerala one best

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Speaker 2: roots artists that night in the group of Sword to

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Speaker 2: huge popularity this year for their gender genre I should

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Speaker 2: say genre blending sound. There's eight of them in the band.

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Speaker 2: It was formed back in twenty seventeen by members of

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Speaker 2: the Royal New Zealand Navy and they remain pretty true

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Speaker 2: to Kiwi reggae roots in their sound, but they love

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Speaker 2: to try out a bit of soul. They've released their

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Speaker 2: second album, it's called Skeletons, and actually our music reviewer

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Speaker 2: Stealic Clifford is going to share a few tracks with

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Speaker 2: us before twelve and give us her thoughts on the album.

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Speaker 2: News out this morning that TikTok is set to be

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Speaker 2: banned in the US is really interesting. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: talk to Paul Stenhouse about that in just a moment.

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Speaker 2: This is, of course, on the back of a law

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Speaker 2: that was signed in April, and it requires TikTok's Chinese owner,

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Speaker 2: Byite Dance, to sell the app to a non Chinese

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Speaker 2: company by January the nineteenth or face a ban in

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Speaker 2: the United States. Of course, they appealed. That appeal has

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Speaker 2: come out overnight the US Court of Appeals has denied

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Speaker 2: their petition to overturn the law. More than one hundred

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Speaker 2: and seventy million Americans use TikTok to entertain and inform themselves,

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Speaker 2: so it's going to be really interesting to see what

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Speaker 2: happens next. Imagine that, what are you going to make

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Speaker 2: up a dance for now? You know, I mean that

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Speaker 2: you know, TikTok people just seem to make up a

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Speaker 2: dance for everything, The make up a dance when they

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Speaker 2: leave the house, the makeup a dance when they clean

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Speaker 2: their teeth, the makeup dance when they go out at night.

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Speaker 2: What are people going to do with your time if

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Speaker 2: they lost TikTok? Anyway, Paul Steenhouse will tell us how

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Speaker 2: he thinks this may all progress next year on News

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Speaker 21: Entertay, The Mic Hosking Breakfast given us the first of season.

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Speaker 21: Prime Minister drops in to say hello and goodbye, Christopher LIKEXM,

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Speaker 21: nice to.

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Speaker 15: See you, to see you too.

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Speaker 15: That sounds special.

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Speaker 21: has ever been given one of these because it doesn't

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Speaker 15: That is genius.

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Speaker 3: That is genius.

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Speaker 15: It's a total mystery to me. Twelve months after having

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Speaker 15: done these interviews right yes.

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Speaker 21: Now, they were back Monday from six am The Mic

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Speaker 21: Asking Breakfast with the Rain Driver of the last News

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Speaker 2: You're with News Talks it being joining us now is

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Speaker 2: our tech commentator Paul steen House, Good morning morning. I

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Speaker 2: am really intrigued by what has happened overnight with tektok.

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01:03:13,173 --> 01:03:16,013
Speaker 2: Of course, this is all to do with the law

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Speaker 2: that was signed in April that requires their Chinese owner

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Speaker 2: to sell the app to a non Chinese company by

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Speaker 2: January the nineteenth, will be banned in the United States. Overnight,

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Speaker 2: the US Court of Appeals they said, nap, We're not

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Speaker 2: going to overturn the law. So what does tektok do now?

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Speaker 8: Well, they have done a lot actually leading up to

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Speaker 8: this point. They say that they've been working with all

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Speaker 8: of the US government departments and regulators and all of

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Speaker 8: that good stuff, and they don't think it should have

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Speaker 8: got to this point. They've also actually separated all of

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Speaker 8: their data outside of China, so they say that all

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Speaker 8: of the data that US users, that they have about

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Speaker 8: US users is in the United States. So they say, hey,

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Speaker 8: just because we are owned by a Chinese company does

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Speaker 8: not mean that we are doing anything nefarious.

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Speaker 5: They say that this is an app that.

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Speaker 8: Should be able to be used by anyone. Of course,

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Speaker 8: the US says a little differently. And one of the

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Speaker 8: things that the Court actually said was that it was

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Speaker 8: the fact that there was extensive bipartisan action by both

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Speaker 8: Congress and successive presidents that led them to side with

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Speaker 8: the US government say no, TikTok, you will be banned.

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Speaker 8: Next step is going to be the Supreme Court. And

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Speaker 8: the big argument that TikTok is making is that this

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Speaker 8: is a matter of free speech.

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Speaker 15: Interesting.

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Speaker 8: I heard you joke before about dancers, So is it

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Speaker 8: also about free dancers. It's going to be interesting, right,

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Speaker 8: because free speech at the moment has a re over here,

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Speaker 8: has a reasonably well understood definition, and so this will

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Speaker 8: be testing that definition to see if free speech also

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Speaker 8: applies to an app. And it's worth pointing out, actually

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Speaker 8: that I think that when this law was passed, TikTok

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Speaker 8: was the absolutely and there really wasn't anywhere else to

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Speaker 8: go and watch those kinds of videos. Right. A lot's

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Speaker 8: changed since then, and a lot has changed because of

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Speaker 8: that law too. Instagram reels has I've put a lot

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Speaker 8: of time and effort into promoting Instagram reels, and they

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Speaker 8: say now that thirty seven percent of all the Instagram

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Speaker 8: users use reels daily. Now that would not have been

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Speaker 8: the case when this law was signed. And about fifty

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Speaker 8: percent of the time that people spend on the Instagram

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Speaker 8: app is with reels, so reels has real traction. So

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Speaker 8: I think that if TikTok was to go away, it

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Speaker 8: would have left a big hole previously, that hole may

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Speaker 8: not be quite as large in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Paul, why doesn't China allow TikTok there? Oh no, it

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Speaker 2: does allow it better it does, Okay, no, it does.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, But but what the US government has said that

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Speaker 8: they don't want the data. They previously said they don't

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Speaker 8: want data stored in China. The big fear is that

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Speaker 8: the data of the US users can be used in

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Speaker 8: nefarious ways, like deelicious ways, and they have had some

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Speaker 8: really bizarre instances of things where you know, if your

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Speaker 8: phone knows where you are and you've given your location

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Speaker 8: access to the TikTok app, they then may be able

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Speaker 8: to see things like where clusters of people are that

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Speaker 8: maybe they aren't supposed to be, maybe they're in a

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Speaker 8: secret location that they don't want them to know about.

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Speaker 8: It's that type of thing I think that they're kind

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Speaker 8: of concerned about.

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Speaker 2: All Right, So we're gonna we're going to head back

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Speaker 2: to calls on this one, aren't we.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, fact, well not just the court those it's a

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Speaker 8: Preme Courts two, which will which I mean, that's the

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Speaker 8: last place they can go. And then what they'll potentially

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Speaker 8: you'll visit the app store and the app won't be there,

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Speaker 8: or you'll visit TikTok dot com and there'll be I

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Speaker 8: don't know, there'd be a black screen, a blue screen.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's going to happen.

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Speaker 5: We haven't seen this before.

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Speaker 2: Well, while we wait and wonder, we can just enjoy

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Speaker 2: accurate predictions of the weather thanks to AI.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so you know, it used to be the minds

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Speaker 8: of you know, the weather forecasters who were telling us

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Speaker 8: what the weather was going to be doing. But AI's

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Speaker 8: changing all of that big time. A Google company called DeepMind.

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Speaker 8: They've basically taking all the AI things that are happening

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Speaker 8: and trying to find applications for them, and they have

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Speaker 8: managed to create very accurate fifteen day weather forecasts. So

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Speaker 8: over here at least anyway ten days typically the one

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Speaker 8: that you look at is the longest one. And when

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Speaker 8: you start getting around to that eight nine, ten day

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Speaker 8: market's not very accurate. AI is generating fifteen day forecasts

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Speaker 8: that are accurate, and they're actually creating those in minutes

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Speaker 8: rather than the current process that takes hours with a supercomputer.

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Speaker 8: And here's the bit that's kind of scary. One of

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Speaker 8: the senior researchers at this company. It's like we've made

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Speaker 8: decades worth of improvements in one years.

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Speaker 2: Goodness me, incredible, Thank you so much, Paul, really good

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Speaker 2: to catch up. Sixteen to eleven News took their.

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Speaker 1: B No better way to kick off your weekend than

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Speaker 2: Be it is time to talk money and joining me

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Speaker 2: now as Ed mcnight economist at Opie's Partners.

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Speaker 4: Good Morning Ed, francis great to speak to you.

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Speaker 2: You've got a lovely topic today, and when I think

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01:08:22,693 --> 01:08:26,053
Speaker 2: that sort of fits the time of the year, you're

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Speaker 2: talking about the best way to give back.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it was quite funny because I ran into GM

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Speaker 9: Street the other day, who actually listens to this show,

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Speaker 9: and I said, I'm to go talk to Francisca. What

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Speaker 9: should I talk about? And he said, well, after you

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Speaker 9: have made a bit of money and you're financially secure,

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Speaker 9: what are some of the best ways to give back

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Speaker 9: and how much should you give back? No, so, what

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Speaker 9: a great topic, and it just made me think of

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Speaker 9: all the community organizations, the charities are not for profits

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Speaker 9: that had helped me.

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Speaker 4: Over the years.

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Speaker 9: So I'm going to ask you this question in a second, Francisco,

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Speaker 9: about what those organizations are. But for me, I grew

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Speaker 9: up in Tahlanaki and the TESP Bank Community Trial they

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Speaker 9: paid for all of the computers in the primary school.

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Speaker 9: And then I was lucky enough to get some scholarships

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Speaker 9: to high school and the university, and you know, somebody

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Speaker 9: donated money so that I could get a bit of

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Speaker 9: a head start and education. I just thought, wow, there

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Speaker 9: are those aren't the only three examples, but there are

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Speaker 9: so many organizations, charities, of the profits, community organizations that

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Speaker 9: help all of us. And it just don't get thinking, oh,

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Speaker 9: maybe I should get back. I mean, are there are

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Speaker 9: any examples of charities that might have helped you over

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Speaker 9: your life?

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Speaker 2: I am trying to think about that. I know that

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Speaker 2: I have definitely given to charities which we might have

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Speaker 2: a personal connection to so for example, if my children

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Speaker 2: have been affected by something, or so our philosophy was,

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Speaker 2: because you know, you can be a little bit overwhelmed

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Speaker 2: with people asking you to contribute our philosophy and our

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Speaker 2: family was. You pick a charity a year and used

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Speaker 2: to cut that and as a family, we used to

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Speaker 2: sit and talk about it. And it could be, you know,

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Speaker 2: would often be so varied. It might be once, as

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Speaker 2: I mentioned something which we've been affected by all someone

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Speaker 2: in our family or a friend has been or it

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Speaker 2: could just be something really random that my kids came

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Speaker 2: up with it they wanted to support, and then you

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Speaker 2: contributed to that one, and then you picked a new

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Speaker 2: one the next year, and then you felt like you

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Speaker 2: were contributing, but it didn't become an overwhelming financial pressure.

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Speaker 9: Well, I think that's a really good thing to involve

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Speaker 9: your kids with as well, so that they're thinking about

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Speaker 9: giving back over time. And I agree that it can

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Speaker 9: feel a little bit overwhelming to just respond to everybody

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Speaker 9: who's always asking.

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Speaker 4: For money, because the rare resource.

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Speaker 9: And charities are not for profits is always money, and

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Speaker 9: so they're always looking for more of it. And it's

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Speaker 9: totally understandable, but I agree that it's probably a better

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01:10:52,293 --> 01:10:54,933
Speaker 9: idea to pick a couple of charities with U. It's

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01:10:54,973 --> 01:10:57,133
Speaker 9: one year or one that you follow or two that

1294
01:10:57,213 --> 01:10:59,693
Speaker 9: you follow over time and give them so you can

1295
01:10:59,733 --> 01:11:02,533
Speaker 9: actually become quite involved. One of the really good things

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01:11:02,573 --> 01:11:06,973
Speaker 9: about donating to charities and community organizations is you can

1297
01:11:07,133 --> 01:11:09,853
Speaker 9: start to feel like you're part of a community, whether

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01:11:09,893 --> 01:11:11,853
Speaker 9: it's just you're part of a group of people who

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01:11:11,853 --> 01:11:14,813
Speaker 9: are donating, perhaps you get invited along to some sort

1300
01:11:14,853 --> 01:11:19,133
Speaker 9: of think your event, or there's somebody at that organization

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01:11:19,293 --> 01:11:22,173
Speaker 9: that you talk to. Now, in terms of how much

1302
01:11:22,173 --> 01:11:24,573
Speaker 9: should you be getting to charity, of course, the answer

1303
01:11:24,653 --> 01:11:27,093
Speaker 9: is how long is a piece of strength. But the

1304
01:11:27,173 --> 01:11:29,053
Speaker 9: last thing about it is when you're very young, if

1305
01:11:29,093 --> 01:11:31,533
Speaker 9: you're in your twenties, it's a bit harder to give

1306
01:11:31,613 --> 01:11:33,413
Speaker 9: to charity because you're going to be on a low

1307
01:11:33,493 --> 01:11:36,013
Speaker 9: income and you don't have a lot to spare. Once

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01:11:36,053 --> 01:11:39,093
Speaker 9: you get into your thirties your forties, life gets a

1309
01:11:39,133 --> 01:11:42,573
Speaker 9: little bit easier, but with mortgages and kids, it's still

1310
01:11:42,613 --> 01:11:45,733
Speaker 9: pretty high. But I'd just say to people as you

1311
01:11:45,733 --> 01:11:49,373
Speaker 9: get older, that's when donating becomes a bit easier. So

1312
01:11:49,413 --> 01:11:51,053
Speaker 9: if you're in your twenties, said you're not able to

1313
01:11:51,093 --> 01:11:53,533
Speaker 9: get a lot, that's totally understandable. But if you're in

1314
01:11:53,533 --> 01:11:56,013
Speaker 9: your thirties, but just keep inviting it is to get

1315
01:11:56,053 --> 01:11:57,733
Speaker 9: a bit older, it gets a bit easier. And that's

1316
01:11:57,733 --> 01:11:59,653
Speaker 9: why you do see a lot of people who are

1317
01:11:59,653 --> 01:12:03,013
Speaker 9: in their fifties, sixties, seventies who are incredibly generous with

1318
01:12:03,093 --> 01:12:05,213
Speaker 9: charities because they pay their money and they feel it's

1319
01:12:05,213 --> 01:12:08,493
Speaker 9: time to give back another little test year as well,

1320
01:12:09,053 --> 01:12:10,773
Speaker 9: because you can kind of think of it as a

1321
01:12:10,893 --> 01:12:13,653
Speaker 9: percentage of your income, and there's a whole hupit of

1322
01:12:13,693 --> 01:12:16,253
Speaker 9: different people who sens about how much you should give.

1323
01:12:16,573 --> 01:12:18,973
Speaker 9: But I kind of think, you know, one percent of

1324
01:12:19,013 --> 01:12:23,013
Speaker 9: your architects income is probably a good starting point or

1325
01:12:23,053 --> 01:12:25,813
Speaker 9: a good ballpark just to think about. So let's say

1326
01:12:25,893 --> 01:12:28,373
Speaker 9: maybe you get a thousand dollars a week in your

1327
01:12:28,373 --> 01:12:30,093
Speaker 9: bank account, you might think, oh, I'm going to give

1328
01:12:30,173 --> 01:12:33,453
Speaker 9: ten dollars a week to a community organization, to charity

1329
01:12:33,453 --> 01:12:35,253
Speaker 9: and not for profit whatever it happens to be.

1330
01:12:35,933 --> 01:12:38,013
Speaker 2: Ed mcnight, thank you so much for your time. Up

1331
01:12:38,093 --> 01:12:40,333
Speaker 2: next road climb pass has us eating out of the garden,

1332
01:12:40,773 --> 01:12:44,693
Speaker 2: but not from the veggie patch. His suggestions maybe a

1333
01:12:44,733 --> 01:12:47,453
Speaker 2: little bit controversial. This morning. It is a five to

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Speaker 2: eleven one gunning with Still Shop.

1335
01:12:50,533 --> 01:12:54,813
Speaker 1: Get free accessories on selected Still tools, root climb Pass.

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Speaker 6: Good morning, Hey, very good morning to you. Frantisica would

1337
01:12:59,133 --> 01:12:59,693
Speaker 6: be hungry.

1338
01:12:59,813 --> 01:13:04,453
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, no, do you know what I was?

1339
01:13:03,973 --> 01:13:06,853
Speaker 2: I was, no, So I love to eat out of

1340
01:13:06,853 --> 01:13:10,013
Speaker 2: my garden with the range of lettuces at the moment

1341
01:13:10,133 --> 01:13:14,293
Speaker 2: providing beautiful fresh salads and spring onions, and the cucumbers

1342
01:13:14,293 --> 01:13:17,373
Speaker 2: are taking off and the tomatoes are growing. And then

1343
01:13:17,973 --> 01:13:20,133
Speaker 2: you've got some other suggestions for us, which I'm not

1344
01:13:20,213 --> 01:13:21,453
Speaker 2: quite too sure whether I'm.

1345
01:13:21,333 --> 01:13:23,773
Speaker 22: Up for, to be honest with you, no, I know,

1346
01:13:23,973 --> 01:13:26,853
Speaker 22: but I just I was going to talk about, you know,

1347
01:13:26,893 --> 01:13:29,493
Speaker 22: what all these things do in your game, and these

1348
01:13:29,533 --> 01:13:33,213
Speaker 22: creepy crawlies and slugs and snails and crabbed beetles and

1349
01:13:33,333 --> 01:13:34,013
Speaker 22: who who grubb?

1350
01:13:34,213 --> 01:13:36,413
Speaker 6: I said to my who beetles are flying around? And know,

1351
01:13:36,413 --> 01:13:38,893
Speaker 6: if you notice, if you're cooking at night and you've

1352
01:13:38,893 --> 01:13:41,893
Speaker 6: got your light on in the kitchen, these huhu beetles

1353
01:13:41,933 --> 01:13:45,213
Speaker 6: are literally smacking into your window. I always find it

1354
01:13:45,333 --> 01:13:48,693
Speaker 6: really exciting, going bang crash, and there they come, you know.

1355
01:13:49,333 --> 01:13:52,573
Speaker 6: And then I thought, you know what I should really

1356
01:13:52,613 --> 01:13:54,813
Speaker 6: talk about that But then, of course, because I knew

1357
01:13:54,853 --> 01:13:58,613
Speaker 6: you would be doing the gig today, I thought I'm

1358
01:13:58,613 --> 01:14:02,173
Speaker 6: going to change this a little bit, because whoo beetles

1359
01:14:02,213 --> 01:14:03,693
Speaker 6: they bite, by the way, if you pick them up,

1360
01:14:03,733 --> 01:14:06,533
Speaker 6: it's really cool. But the point of course is that

1361
01:14:06,613 --> 01:14:09,733
Speaker 6: if you talk about who beetles, everybody go says, what

1362
01:14:09,813 --> 01:14:13,533
Speaker 6: about who grubs? And here we go. If we are

1363
01:14:13,573 --> 01:14:16,213
Speaker 6: looking at our planet and we are having a hell

1364
01:14:16,293 --> 01:14:20,733
Speaker 6: of a lot of cows and sheep everywhere, and meadows

1365
01:14:20,813 --> 01:14:23,173
Speaker 6: and all that sort of stuff, and if we're looking

1366
01:14:23,173 --> 01:14:26,973
Speaker 6: for alternative versions of protein MODI, we're eating whoo grubs

1367
01:14:27,253 --> 01:14:30,253
Speaker 6: a long long time ago. And I thought i'd make

1368
01:14:30,333 --> 01:14:34,373
Speaker 6: that point clear here on this particular program.

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01:14:35,093 --> 01:14:38,853
Speaker 2: Look, I think if I was like the Wild the

1370
01:14:38,893 --> 01:14:42,253
Speaker 2: Wild Foods Festival and Hockeyitecut, I think I'd be all

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01:14:42,333 --> 01:14:43,773
Speaker 2: up for doing it. But I'm not sure I can

1372
01:14:43,853 --> 01:14:46,493
Speaker 2: quite trust myself to go in the garden and give

1373
01:14:46,573 --> 01:14:50,453
Speaker 2: myself a hooho grab or a snail and cook it

1374
01:14:50,533 --> 01:14:53,013
Speaker 2: up myself. When it comes to the snails, you're just

1375
01:14:53,053 --> 01:14:56,173
Speaker 2: talking about the general gun variety snail that's in our

1376
01:14:56,173 --> 01:14:57,533
Speaker 2: backyards that we can cook up.

1377
01:14:58,413 --> 01:15:05,133
Speaker 6: Francisca, the French important wail from north from Africa, North Africa,

1378
01:15:05,373 --> 01:15:08,693
Speaker 6: and they took it to Europe and they called it escargo.

1379
01:15:09,373 --> 01:15:13,173
Speaker 6: That snail escaped to Belgium, to the Netherlands, to England,

1380
01:15:13,253 --> 01:15:17,853
Speaker 6: to Italy and Spain and places like that, and a

1381
01:15:17,893 --> 01:15:21,173
Speaker 6: lot of those local groups were eating those snails. Guess

1382
01:15:21,213 --> 01:15:24,493
Speaker 6: what happened About one hundred and fifty years ago. People

1383
01:15:24,693 --> 01:15:28,653
Speaker 6: arrived from Europe with their plants in their suitcases and

1384
01:15:28,693 --> 01:15:32,013
Speaker 6: all that sort of stuff to New Zealand and introduced

1385
01:15:32,413 --> 01:15:35,733
Speaker 6: that same snail into our TIUROA.

1386
01:15:37,053 --> 01:15:40,533
Speaker 2: Very well traveled species. How would you cook them? How

1387
01:15:40,533 --> 01:15:41,173
Speaker 2: do you cook them?

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01:15:41,893 --> 01:15:45,613
Speaker 6: Well, it's very simple that don't forget people. If you

1389
01:15:45,653 --> 01:15:47,293
Speaker 6: want to have a look at the website, there's a

1390
01:15:47,293 --> 01:15:51,893
Speaker 6: complete if you like, treaty on how you eat them

1391
01:15:51,933 --> 01:15:54,533
Speaker 6: and things like that. What I would do is you, first,

1392
01:15:56,253 --> 01:15:59,933
Speaker 6: if you like, feed them something not plant material, but

1393
01:16:00,053 --> 01:16:03,293
Speaker 6: something like stale bread, which means that their guts are

1394
01:16:03,373 --> 01:16:07,573
Speaker 6: being cleansed by the stale bread, which are normally black,

1395
01:16:07,653 --> 01:16:10,413
Speaker 6: will turn white after three or four days. That means

1396
01:16:10,413 --> 01:16:14,893
Speaker 6: they're ready to cook. Then for fight, it's in boiling water,

1397
01:16:15,053 --> 01:16:18,053
Speaker 6: not longer, otherwise they taste like rubber bands. What you

1398
01:16:18,093 --> 01:16:20,133
Speaker 6: do then is you go to your medicine cabinet and

1399
01:16:20,253 --> 01:16:22,373
Speaker 6: get the tweezes that you use for your eyebrows, and

1400
01:16:22,413 --> 01:16:25,613
Speaker 6: you pull those things out of the shells, making sure

1401
01:16:25,653 --> 01:16:27,933
Speaker 6: that you remember which body which is by now dead

1402
01:16:27,973 --> 01:16:32,893
Speaker 6: and cooked almost belongs to which shell, if you like,

1403
01:16:32,973 --> 01:16:36,053
Speaker 6: because later on in plating up that's quite important. Then

1404
01:16:36,133 --> 01:16:39,493
Speaker 6: you put some garlic butter on the inner pan and

1405
01:16:39,533 --> 01:16:42,253
Speaker 6: you quickly fry them for another three or four minutes,

1406
01:16:42,333 --> 01:16:45,813
Speaker 6: no longer, otherwise they taste like garlic flavored rubber bands.

1407
01:16:46,133 --> 01:16:49,253
Speaker 6: And then you can put those little bodies back into

1408
01:16:49,253 --> 01:16:54,373
Speaker 6: the shell and basically plate them up with wonderful materials

1409
01:16:54,413 --> 01:16:56,813
Speaker 6: like garlic and all sorts of other than pieces, and

1410
01:16:56,853 --> 01:16:59,933
Speaker 6: you can actually eat that very simply and very wisely.

1411
01:17:00,893 --> 01:17:03,493
Speaker 2: The protein, I presume good protein.

1412
01:17:03,693 --> 01:17:06,333
Speaker 6: Yeah, it is absolutely brilliant protein.

1413
01:17:07,213 --> 01:17:08,653
Speaker 2: Have you ever coocked up the hoho grabbers?

1414
01:17:08,693 --> 01:17:08,853
Speaker 9: One?

1415
01:17:09,773 --> 01:17:12,853
Speaker 6: Yes, I had. I had a team of a Dutch

1416
01:17:14,093 --> 01:17:18,093
Speaker 6: group making a documentary, and I put them in the

1417
01:17:18,173 --> 01:17:21,213
Speaker 6: pen basically in the in the in the in the

1418
01:17:21,693 --> 01:17:24,213
Speaker 6: in the pen in the kitchen, and I forgot to

1419
01:17:24,293 --> 01:17:27,733
Speaker 6: prick them. So what happens is inside the body everything

1420
01:17:27,813 --> 01:17:30,573
Speaker 6: started to explode and puff it all ended up on

1421
01:17:30,613 --> 01:17:32,013
Speaker 6: the ceiling, so I've had it.

1422
01:17:32,133 --> 01:17:34,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, You've got to stop now. Thank you so much

1423
01:17:34,253 --> 01:17:36,773
Speaker 2: for climing past. You painted a beautiful picture there. You're

1424
01:17:36,773 --> 01:17:37,773
Speaker 2: with News Talks at.

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01:17:37,693 --> 01:17:49,093
Speaker 1: B Saturday Mornings with Francesca Rudgin in for Jack Taim

1426
01:17:49,373 --> 01:17:52,813
Speaker 1: keeping the conversation going through the weekend with BE Pure

1427
01:17:53,133 --> 01:17:56,053
Speaker 1: Policy Supplements for a Sigil Energy News Talks at BE.

1428
01:18:19,653 --> 01:18:22,053
Speaker 2: Good to have you with us this morning on Saturday Mornings,

1429
01:18:22,093 --> 01:18:25,693
Speaker 2: I'm Francisco Budkin filling in for Jack Tame. Jack is

1430
01:18:25,773 --> 01:18:29,173
Speaker 2: preparing for fatherhood this morning. He's at an anti natal class,

1431
01:18:29,173 --> 01:18:32,333
Speaker 2: which is very exciting a bit of a reality check

1432
01:18:32,373 --> 01:18:35,573
Speaker 2: for him. Anyway, He'll be back with you next Saturday.

1433
01:18:36,213 --> 01:18:38,013
Speaker 2: Our Mike Yardi is going to take us to the

1434
01:18:38,013 --> 01:18:41,893
Speaker 2: Blue Penguin Colony in Oamaru. Who doesn't love a penguin?

1435
01:18:42,293 --> 01:18:45,893
Speaker 2: Catherine has a fabulous book for f one fans, and

1436
01:18:46,093 --> 01:18:48,333
Speaker 2: Estelle is going to give us her thoughts on the

1437
01:18:48,373 --> 01:18:51,573
Speaker 2: new album from Kiwi band Corella, and we will of

1438
01:18:51,573 --> 01:18:53,653
Speaker 2: course keep you up to date with what is happening

1439
01:18:53,893 --> 01:18:59,133
Speaker 2: in the cricket Francisca right now though Kate Hall aka

1440
01:18:59,253 --> 01:19:02,253
Speaker 2: Ethically Kate joins us to talk about her New Zealand

1441
01:19:02,333 --> 01:19:05,693
Speaker 2: Made Food challenge that she set herself for the year.

1442
01:19:06,413 --> 01:19:08,613
Speaker 22: Good morning, Kate, have brin Jessica.

1443
01:19:09,653 --> 01:19:12,173
Speaker 2: So at the beginning of the year, I think you

1444
01:19:12,253 --> 01:19:14,613
Speaker 2: spoke to Jack about this new challenge. It's not the

1445
01:19:14,613 --> 01:19:17,293
Speaker 2: first time you've picked a challenge for the year, is it, Kate.

1446
01:19:18,013 --> 01:19:21,173
Speaker 23: No, I seemed like a challenge, and I kind of

1447
01:19:21,413 --> 01:19:24,453
Speaker 23: I like the calendar year. I think, yeah, some people

1448
01:19:24,613 --> 01:19:27,293
Speaker 23: poo poo the kind of New Year's resolutions, but I

1449
01:19:27,373 --> 01:19:29,893
Speaker 23: kind of just pick a yeah, an annual challenge. I

1450
01:19:29,893 --> 01:19:32,893
Speaker 23: find it is really helpful to yeah, do it in

1451
01:19:32,933 --> 01:19:36,533
Speaker 23: the calendar year and to not think I want to

1452
01:19:36,573 --> 01:19:39,653
Speaker 23: do it forever for my lifetime or go into it

1453
01:19:39,693 --> 01:19:41,853
Speaker 23: with absolute but yeah, just to try it.

1454
01:19:42,053 --> 01:19:44,213
Speaker 2: So why this year did you pick the New Zealand

1455
01:19:44,253 --> 01:19:45,373
Speaker 2: Made Food Challenge?

1456
01:19:46,493 --> 01:19:46,573
Speaker 7: So?

1457
01:19:46,653 --> 01:19:50,013
Speaker 23: I thought, honestly, it was probably on the twenty ninth

1458
01:19:50,053 --> 01:19:53,493
Speaker 23: of December. I really I am up for a challenge.

1459
01:19:53,533 --> 01:19:56,693
Speaker 23: I'd like a change, and I thought it would be

1460
01:19:56,733 --> 01:20:00,333
Speaker 23: good to around food, especially since I had heard just

1461
01:20:00,453 --> 01:20:04,213
Speaker 23: so much from small food producers how much of a struggle.

1462
01:20:04,373 --> 01:20:07,293
Speaker 23: I mean, it always is a struggle a small food producer,

1463
01:20:07,373 --> 01:20:10,813
Speaker 23: but especially at the moment, and I've always tried to

1464
01:20:11,693 --> 01:20:15,173
Speaker 23: buy produce and food as local as possible, but I

1465
01:20:15,293 --> 01:20:17,613
Speaker 23: just kind of wanted to go that extra mile and

1466
01:20:17,733 --> 01:20:21,613
Speaker 23: really really understand what we grow here in New Zealand,

1467
01:20:22,013 --> 01:20:24,573
Speaker 23: what we have available to us, and what a diet

1468
01:20:24,613 --> 01:20:28,613
Speaker 23: would look like without having access to international foods.

1469
01:20:28,893 --> 01:20:30,733
Speaker 2: Before we have a chat about what you have learned

1470
01:20:30,733 --> 01:20:33,133
Speaker 2: from this challenge, just remind us again what the rules were.

1471
01:20:34,373 --> 01:20:37,813
Speaker 23: So the rules, I could still eat what was existing

1472
01:20:37,853 --> 01:20:40,413
Speaker 23: in my pantry, so you know those kind of like

1473
01:20:40,613 --> 01:20:42,973
Speaker 23: using up the soy sauce and things like that, because

1474
01:20:42,973 --> 01:20:45,413
Speaker 23: that would have been wasteful if I just, you know,

1475
01:20:45,493 --> 01:20:49,053
Speaker 23: throw that stuff out to start the challenge. I also

1476
01:20:49,133 --> 01:20:52,333
Speaker 23: didn't want it to be a year of me losing friends,

1477
01:20:52,373 --> 01:20:56,413
Speaker 23: so I decided that I wasn't about so if I

1478
01:20:56,453 --> 01:20:59,253
Speaker 23: was invited over to someone's house for dinner, I could

1479
01:20:59,333 --> 01:21:04,133
Speaker 23: eat whatever they served me. So yeah, I wasn't excluding

1480
01:21:04,133 --> 01:21:08,173
Speaker 23: myself or creating kind of unfair demands on my friends

1481
01:21:08,173 --> 01:21:13,013
Speaker 23: and family. And it was it was New Zealand made food,

1482
01:21:13,653 --> 01:21:18,213
Speaker 23: so that doesn't necessarily mean grown, but I had a

1483
01:21:18,293 --> 01:21:21,413
Speaker 23: strong emphasis on grown. So I tried as much as

1484
01:21:21,453 --> 01:21:24,453
Speaker 23: possible for New Zealand grown too, but New Zealand made

1485
01:21:24,653 --> 01:21:25,733
Speaker 23: was that absolute.

1486
01:21:26,413 --> 01:21:30,333
Speaker 2: So just how easy was this? It was?

1487
01:21:30,653 --> 01:21:33,253
Speaker 23: To be honest, it was easier than I thought in

1488
01:21:33,293 --> 01:21:38,613
Speaker 23: some ways when you look around it almost it almost

1489
01:21:38,693 --> 01:21:41,613
Speaker 23: felt like it was harder when I was doing kind

1490
01:21:41,653 --> 01:21:46,613
Speaker 23: of more staunch, plastic free challenges. So it felt easier

1491
01:21:46,613 --> 01:21:52,253
Speaker 23: to find New Zealand made food. But again it almost

1492
01:21:52,333 --> 01:21:56,373
Speaker 23: sometimes felt too easy because of the labeling. It would

1493
01:21:56,373 --> 01:22:00,373
Speaker 23: say made in New Zealand from local and important ingredients,

1494
01:22:00,733 --> 01:22:04,653
Speaker 23: and I started to feel really kind of challenged about

1495
01:22:04,693 --> 01:22:09,573
Speaker 23: the labeling and not act being able to know is this, yeah,

1496
01:22:09,613 --> 01:22:11,573
Speaker 23: how much of this is actually New Zealand grown? And

1497
01:22:11,613 --> 01:22:14,453
Speaker 23: it was very very vague, So I found that part

1498
01:22:14,933 --> 01:22:18,053
Speaker 23: kind of hard, and that meant I kept a lot

1499
01:22:18,053 --> 01:22:21,773
Speaker 23: to just eating, you know, kind of raw, not getting

1500
01:22:21,853 --> 01:22:25,733
Speaker 23: raw foods, cooking them, but just the basics like vegetables

1501
01:22:25,333 --> 01:22:29,893
Speaker 23: and meat and grains that I knew were grown here.

1502
01:22:30,693 --> 01:22:33,933
Speaker 23: So yeah, the labeling was a big, big challenge, but

1503
01:22:34,053 --> 01:22:38,973
Speaker 23: I think it's one of my favorite challenges I've done

1504
01:22:39,013 --> 01:22:42,173
Speaker 23: so far. I've done a year of no new clothes

1505
01:22:42,333 --> 01:22:46,213
Speaker 23: and minimalist challenges and things like that, but this has

1506
01:22:46,413 --> 01:22:51,653
Speaker 23: really given me some good new habits going into twenty

1507
01:22:51,693 --> 01:22:55,893
Speaker 23: twenty five and beyond to actually not just look at, okay,

1508
01:22:55,973 --> 01:22:58,253
Speaker 23: where is my produce grown, which I think we're all

1509
01:22:58,253 --> 01:23:00,373
Speaker 23: pretty good at in New Zealand when we're in the

1510
01:23:00,373 --> 01:23:04,173
Speaker 23: produce section, but actually looking at our food and labeling too.

1511
01:23:04,853 --> 01:23:07,773
Speaker 23: I really hope we get better that and there's more

1512
01:23:08,013 --> 01:23:12,293
Speaker 23: laws around what people can put on their products. But

1513
01:23:12,333 --> 01:23:17,653
Speaker 23: I've missed some foods like bananas and you know, like

1514
01:23:18,093 --> 01:23:20,653
Speaker 23: black tea. We have one producer here in New Zealand,

1515
01:23:21,133 --> 01:23:22,973
Speaker 23: but yeah, just things like that which are a bit

1516
01:23:23,013 --> 01:23:23,893
Speaker 23: harder to find.

1517
01:23:24,293 --> 01:23:26,173
Speaker 2: I was going to ask whether it allowed for a

1518
01:23:26,213 --> 01:23:28,093
Speaker 2: good variety in your in your diet.

1519
01:23:29,013 --> 01:23:33,413
Speaker 23: Yeah, I think at the start I was. I was

1520
01:23:33,493 --> 01:23:36,773
Speaker 23: feeling the lack of variety. I missed rice a lot

1521
01:23:38,253 --> 01:23:42,493
Speaker 23: because we don't have investigated people who have been attempting

1522
01:23:42,573 --> 01:23:45,333
Speaker 23: to grow rice, which we can, but it's just the

1523
01:23:45,373 --> 01:23:48,573
Speaker 23: machinery around the husking that rice to make it a

1524
01:23:48,613 --> 01:23:52,413
Speaker 23: commercial and edible product. It's difficult, but maybe we'll get there.

1525
01:23:52,853 --> 01:23:55,973
Speaker 23: So yeah, Keenwa, I really love and it's even better

1526
01:23:56,053 --> 01:23:59,373
Speaker 23: for your body, it's even more nutritious. But I did

1527
01:23:59,453 --> 01:24:02,413
Speaker 23: get a little bit sick of it. After Yeah, probably

1528
01:24:02,453 --> 01:24:04,573
Speaker 23: after the sixth month, I was like, oh, how many

1529
01:24:04,613 --> 01:24:07,853
Speaker 23: ways can I cook inga What about?

1530
01:24:08,333 --> 01:24:11,493
Speaker 2: What about cost? Kate, did you notice any difference in

1531
01:24:11,573 --> 01:24:12,973
Speaker 2: sort of what it cost you to eat?

1532
01:24:14,013 --> 01:24:14,213
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1533
01:24:14,253 --> 01:24:18,133
Speaker 23: That was a tricky one for me because I'm already celiac,

1534
01:24:18,293 --> 01:24:20,653
Speaker 23: so I have to eat a gluten free diet. So

1535
01:24:20,773 --> 01:24:24,173
Speaker 23: my food, you know, a loaf of bread for me

1536
01:24:24,453 --> 01:24:27,613
Speaker 23: as a Celiac is you know, ten to twelve dollars

1537
01:24:27,733 --> 01:24:30,053
Speaker 23: instead of I don't know what a normal of spread

1538
01:24:30,093 --> 01:24:33,093
Speaker 23: costs these days of wheat four, but you know it's

1539
01:24:33,213 --> 01:24:36,053
Speaker 23: maybe a third of that price, so it has hard

1540
01:24:36,493 --> 01:24:38,933
Speaker 23: I know I can't do kind of exact comparison for

1541
01:24:39,013 --> 01:24:43,093
Speaker 23: the everyday person, but I think, honestly, I don't think

1542
01:24:43,133 --> 01:24:46,693
Speaker 23: it's as expensive as everyone thought it would be. Because

1543
01:24:46,733 --> 01:24:49,373
Speaker 23: that was the first question. They're like, oh, you know,

1544
01:24:49,653 --> 01:24:52,013
Speaker 23: it's all right for some who can afford it, But

1545
01:24:52,613 --> 01:24:55,493
Speaker 23: I think because you then just say no to non

1546
01:24:55,533 --> 01:24:59,053
Speaker 23: seasonal things. You know, you're not spending extravagant amounts on

1547
01:24:59,733 --> 01:25:03,373
Speaker 23: a pineapple in June or you know, a punnet of

1548
01:25:03,453 --> 01:25:07,933
Speaker 23: strawberries in July. You were just eating seas meaning it's

1549
01:25:08,293 --> 01:25:10,733
Speaker 23: cheap in that season because there's an abundance of it,

1550
01:25:11,333 --> 01:25:14,053
Speaker 23: So that also I think has connected me more to

1551
01:25:14,093 --> 01:25:17,973
Speaker 23: the seasons and understanding. You know, like I got in

1552
01:25:17,973 --> 01:25:21,653
Speaker 23: this veggie box from Misfit which is all Misfit kind

1553
01:25:21,653 --> 01:25:25,933
Speaker 23: of vegetables directly from the farmers just yesterday some nectarines,

1554
01:25:26,493 --> 01:25:29,573
Speaker 23: and I'm so excited for the stone fruit kind of season.

1555
01:25:29,693 --> 01:25:34,613
Speaker 23: And I now really far more kind of associate different

1556
01:25:34,653 --> 01:25:38,613
Speaker 23: seasons with those foods. And yeah, I really don't think.

1557
01:25:38,653 --> 01:25:41,373
Speaker 23: I think it's quite a myth that New Zealand made

1558
01:25:41,413 --> 01:25:45,133
Speaker 23: food is more expensive and just got to try it

1559
01:25:45,173 --> 01:25:48,173
Speaker 23: and you'll see that actually it can mean that you're

1560
01:25:48,213 --> 01:25:50,373
Speaker 23: saying no to a lot of those extra foods you're

1561
01:25:50,453 --> 01:25:52,413
Speaker 23: thrown you're trolley without thinking.

1562
01:25:53,013 --> 01:25:56,213
Speaker 2: And Kate, was it time consuming challenge?

1563
01:25:56,933 --> 01:26:01,533
Speaker 23: Yeah, it was time consuming, mainly because the labels are

1564
01:26:01,573 --> 01:26:04,613
Speaker 23: really hard to read. So at the satura the year,

1565
01:26:04,773 --> 01:26:09,053
Speaker 23: at about seven am and a local supermarket opened, I

1566
01:26:09,093 --> 01:26:11,013
Speaker 23: went to my bike to the supermarket and I just

1567
01:26:11,053 --> 01:26:14,453
Speaker 23: spent probably an hour and a half just reading labels

1568
01:26:14,653 --> 01:26:18,053
Speaker 23: and understanding what I could buy what was there. I

1569
01:26:18,173 --> 01:26:20,933
Speaker 23: determined that a whole lot of rice crackers mainly made

1570
01:26:20,973 --> 01:26:24,733
Speaker 23: in Thailand, so those out of the question and just yeah,

1571
01:26:24,853 --> 01:26:27,413
Speaker 23: took that time. But I do these challenges so that

1572
01:26:28,013 --> 01:26:31,133
Speaker 23: I can do that, you know, work and research up

1573
01:26:31,133 --> 01:26:34,853
Speaker 23: front so other people can understand things too. So of

1574
01:26:35,053 --> 01:26:39,133
Speaker 23: made a blog of over one hundred different New Zealand

1575
01:26:39,173 --> 01:26:43,093
Speaker 23: made food producers and so hopefully you know, yeah again

1576
01:26:43,213 --> 01:26:46,093
Speaker 23: this book that I've done this year, I've spent the

1577
01:26:46,133 --> 01:26:48,893
Speaker 23: times that others don't have to to know that actually

1578
01:26:48,933 --> 01:26:51,373
Speaker 23: it is possible with me, don't have to be absolute

1579
01:26:51,373 --> 01:26:55,373
Speaker 23: about it. I actually need to confess all so that

1580
01:26:55,493 --> 01:27:01,693
Speaker 23: I have bought some things like rice because several months

1581
01:27:01,693 --> 01:27:06,373
Speaker 23: ago I felt pregnant and the first trimester was very

1582
01:27:06,653 --> 01:27:11,053
Speaker 23: had with food. Even looking at vegetables was yeah, ad

1583
01:27:11,093 --> 01:27:15,053
Speaker 23: bots make gag reflexes. So I had to be kind

1584
01:27:15,093 --> 01:27:17,733
Speaker 23: on my body and though that actually I can keep

1585
01:27:17,773 --> 01:27:21,213
Speaker 23: doing the challenge, but with a few little things thrown

1586
01:27:21,253 --> 01:27:23,133
Speaker 23: in there, so that that's my commission.

1587
01:27:23,533 --> 01:27:25,453
Speaker 2: I'm not good on you for confessing it, but I

1588
01:27:25,493 --> 01:27:30,653
Speaker 2: think everybody will totally forgive you for that. Kate, congratulations

1589
01:27:30,693 --> 01:27:34,453
Speaker 2: on the pregnancy. Kate's blog is ethically Kate dot com.

1590
01:27:34,533 --> 01:27:36,013
Speaker 2: If you want to go and have a read of

1591
01:27:36,013 --> 01:27:39,093
Speaker 2: her challenge and also get the list of those New

1592
01:27:39,133 --> 01:27:44,013
Speaker 2: Zealand food producers. It is sixteen past eleven travel.

1593
01:27:43,813 --> 01:27:47,973
Speaker 1: With Wendy Woo Tours, unique fully inclusive tours around the world.

1594
01:27:49,573 --> 01:27:51,773
Speaker 2: Just before we get to travel, it is an absolutely

1595
01:27:51,813 --> 01:27:53,933
Speaker 2: beautiful day in Wellington. But that's about the only good

1596
01:27:53,933 --> 01:27:56,453
Speaker 2: news I have for you from the Basin Reserve. The

1597
01:27:56,493 --> 01:28:01,093
Speaker 2: black Caps are our ninety seven four seven, of course

1598
01:28:01,093 --> 01:28:04,373
Speaker 2: playing England there in the second test. Jasan pinealval with us.

1599
01:28:04,373 --> 01:28:06,933
Speaker 2: Shortly to talk sport, but time to talk travel now.

1600
01:28:07,373 --> 01:28:08,333
Speaker 2: Mike Yardley is with me.

1601
01:28:08,413 --> 01:28:12,053
Speaker 24: Good morning, Good morning, Francisco. I'm so depressed by the CREC.

1602
01:28:12,333 --> 01:28:15,733
Speaker 2: Yeah no, yes, just let's talk about penguins, because penguins

1603
01:28:15,813 --> 01:28:19,573
Speaker 2: just make you feel good, right, yes, a feel good animal.

1604
01:28:19,733 --> 01:28:23,053
Speaker 2: And in summertime it is a great time to enjoy

1605
01:28:23,093 --> 01:28:25,573
Speaker 2: the penguin colony in Rrow.

1606
01:28:26,693 --> 01:28:29,973
Speaker 24: It is ground zero for flippand fun. I have to

1607
01:28:30,013 --> 01:28:34,613
Speaker 24: say my first job in Radio Francisca was in AWMDUV

1608
01:28:34,693 --> 01:28:37,693
Speaker 24: in the early nineties, so it's amazing to see how

1609
01:28:37,733 --> 01:28:40,093
Speaker 24: that colony has really kicked on because when I was

1610
01:28:40,093 --> 01:28:43,533
Speaker 24: there there were only about thirty breeding pears. Today these

1611
01:28:43,733 --> 01:28:48,773
Speaker 24: hundreds of breeding pears, they've been busy breeding over the decades,

1612
01:28:49,653 --> 01:28:53,373
Speaker 24: so that nightly penguin parade as the birds come home

1613
01:28:53,373 --> 01:28:58,173
Speaker 24: from the sea is lavish and intimate. In the summer

1614
01:28:58,213 --> 01:29:01,693
Speaker 24: months is peak season for the nightly parade because at

1615
01:29:01,693 --> 01:29:05,093
Speaker 24: the moment I checked, therese over three hundred and fifty

1616
01:29:05,133 --> 01:29:09,693
Speaker 24: penguins coming ashore right before you each night to return home.

1617
01:29:09,773 --> 01:29:12,253
Speaker 24: So it's a really riveting encounter at sundown.

1618
01:29:12,373 --> 01:29:14,613
Speaker 2: They did the blue penguins, aren't they. That's the smallest

1619
01:29:14,613 --> 01:29:15,213
Speaker 2: penguin in the.

1620
01:29:15,133 --> 01:29:17,213
Speaker 24: World, little blue yep carara.

1621
01:29:17,573 --> 01:29:18,453
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1622
01:29:18,533 --> 01:29:20,013
Speaker 2: But this other wildlife there too.

1623
01:29:19,893 --> 01:29:20,133
Speaker 6: Isn't it?

1624
01:29:20,973 --> 01:29:21,613
Speaker 7: Well? There is.

1625
01:29:21,653 --> 01:29:24,133
Speaker 24: The really cool thing about the summer months for the

1626
01:29:24,173 --> 01:29:26,773
Speaker 24: penguin parade is that as they scamper up the rocks

1627
01:29:26,933 --> 01:29:30,173
Speaker 24: like nervous Nigel's, they have to generally navigate their way

1628
01:29:30,173 --> 01:29:33,293
Speaker 24: around all sorts of bellowing fur seals who also sort

1629
01:29:33,333 --> 01:29:37,213
Speaker 24: of park up hit the same site. So it's a

1630
01:29:37,293 --> 01:29:40,733
Speaker 24: really cool little primal interaction. The seals do not eat

1631
01:29:40,973 --> 01:29:44,573
Speaker 24: the penguins, I hasten to add and then just adjacent

1632
01:29:44,613 --> 01:29:49,133
Speaker 24: to the penguin colony for a true dramatic spectacle. Sumter

1633
01:29:49,293 --> 01:29:52,813
Speaker 24: Wharf is amazing. So this was like a Victorian era

1634
01:29:52,973 --> 01:29:56,053
Speaker 24: wharf where a lot of our early frozen meat exports

1635
01:29:56,053 --> 01:29:58,813
Speaker 24: were shipped off to the world. Nowadays it's a relic,

1636
01:29:58,853 --> 01:30:01,493
Speaker 24: it's a deer. It's wharf, but it's been consumed by

1637
01:30:01,533 --> 01:30:06,533
Speaker 24: the birds. So there are thousands of Otago shags that

1638
01:30:06,533 --> 01:30:09,413
Speaker 24: have commentared the wharf. They've been busy breeding. There's lots

1639
01:30:09,413 --> 01:30:12,293
Speaker 24: of chicks in their nests on the wharf at the moment.

1640
01:30:12,413 --> 01:30:16,853
Speaker 24: It's the world's biggest Otago shag colony. It is a

1641
01:30:17,093 --> 01:30:19,893
Speaker 24: chagathon of epic proportions.

1642
01:30:20,333 --> 01:30:22,733
Speaker 2: Whenever I think of Armora as well, I think of

1643
01:30:22,853 --> 01:30:27,813
Speaker 2: the Victorian buildings there, those amazing historic buildings made out

1644
01:30:27,853 --> 01:30:28,853
Speaker 2: of limestone.

1645
01:30:29,333 --> 01:30:32,453
Speaker 24: Yeah that's right. Yeah, you've got those gorgeous old stately

1646
01:30:32,693 --> 01:30:35,133
Speaker 24: banks in the Opera House on Thames Street. And then

1647
01:30:35,253 --> 01:30:38,253
Speaker 24: just around the corner on harborst Street. That is the

1648
01:30:38,293 --> 01:30:41,453
Speaker 24: heart of the Victorian precinct because Harbor Street is home

1649
01:30:41,493 --> 01:30:47,533
Speaker 24: to New Zealand's best preserved Victorian commercial streetscape brilliantly restored

1650
01:30:47,573 --> 01:30:50,773
Speaker 24: and repurposed, so it just brims with galleries and artisans

1651
01:30:50,773 --> 01:30:53,573
Speaker 24: on hospit. My favorite stops, I have to say, do

1652
01:30:53,693 --> 01:31:00,693
Speaker 24: involve drinking, so there is surprise. There is the Craftwork Brewery,

1653
01:31:01,133 --> 01:31:04,773
Speaker 24: which is a Belgian inspired the brewery really cool spot.

1654
01:31:05,213 --> 01:31:09,613
Speaker 24: And then this stirring the hospitality treasure, the Criterion Hotel.

1655
01:31:09,893 --> 01:31:12,813
Speaker 24: Now this pub has been pouring pint since the eighteen

1656
01:31:13,133 --> 01:31:18,253
Speaker 24: seventies in the same building. It's been beautifully revitalized, really

1657
01:31:18,413 --> 01:31:23,013
Speaker 24: elegantly furnished, and all of its storied history is sported

1658
01:31:23,053 --> 01:31:25,093
Speaker 24: on the walls of the bar and the etery. The

1659
01:31:25,173 --> 01:31:28,293
Speaker 24: etery itself is fabulous because it's just like a hymn

1660
01:31:28,293 --> 01:31:31,693
Speaker 24: to the region's produce. I would suggest you whistle up

1661
01:31:32,173 --> 01:31:35,333
Speaker 24: and Alps to Ocean platter, and that way you can

1662
01:31:35,373 --> 01:31:38,173
Speaker 24: sample a bit of everything and wash it down with

1663
01:31:38,253 --> 01:31:41,853
Speaker 24: a Criterion black Doris plum cider.

1664
01:31:42,413 --> 01:31:44,813
Speaker 2: Have you done the Alps to Alpine trail?

1665
01:31:45,253 --> 01:31:46,933
Speaker 24: Sorry, not the whole hog?

1666
01:31:47,213 --> 01:31:50,533
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm quite interested in that anyway, and that's

1667
01:31:50,533 --> 01:31:51,253
Speaker 2: for another day.

1668
01:31:51,493 --> 01:31:53,933
Speaker 24: Anywhere else, I've got my trainer wheels on franchise.

1669
01:31:56,893 --> 01:31:58,773
Speaker 2: Anywhere else that you recommend to eat?

1670
01:31:59,213 --> 01:32:02,253
Speaker 24: A couple of coick tips from age fans are white

1671
01:32:02,253 --> 01:32:04,653
Speaker 24: Stone cheese. The name will be very well known to

1672
01:32:04,653 --> 01:32:06,653
Speaker 24: a lot of Kiwis because it's been a main day

1673
01:32:06,653 --> 01:32:10,133
Speaker 24: of the New Zealand Premium cheese scene for about four decades.

1674
01:32:10,173 --> 01:32:13,293
Speaker 24: It's globally, it claims this cheese company. I've got twenty

1675
01:32:13,293 --> 01:32:16,653
Speaker 24: five varieties to nibble on and for the full glory experience,

1676
01:32:16,693 --> 01:32:19,013
Speaker 24: the place to go is the white Stone Cheese Diner

1677
01:32:19,173 --> 01:32:21,973
Speaker 24: in Deli. It's on Thames Street. You can whistle up

1678
01:32:21,973 --> 01:32:24,893
Speaker 24: a high cheese as you do, and I have to

1679
01:32:24,893 --> 01:32:29,613
Speaker 24: say it via double cream. Bree is unbeatable. One other

1680
01:32:29,693 --> 01:32:33,293
Speaker 24: culinary rock star to add to your checklist. Riverstone, just

1681
01:32:33,333 --> 01:32:35,773
Speaker 24: at the north of Olamado. Bevan Smith is still at

1682
01:32:35,813 --> 01:32:38,133
Speaker 24: the helmet that kitchen on his parents' farm. All of

1683
01:32:38,133 --> 01:32:40,613
Speaker 24: the produces hyper local because a lot of it comes

1684
01:32:40,653 --> 01:32:43,613
Speaker 24: from the adjoining gardens. But it was really funny, Francesco.

1685
01:32:43,653 --> 01:32:45,333
Speaker 24: A lot of locals said to me, they just go

1686
01:32:45,413 --> 01:32:46,613
Speaker 24: to Riverstone to eat the cake.

1687
01:32:47,333 --> 01:32:48,773
Speaker 4: The cakes are so good.

1688
01:32:49,373 --> 01:32:54,773
Speaker 24: So I had to and I surrendered to a slice

1689
01:32:55,133 --> 01:33:00,613
Speaker 24: of gooseberry and black currant shortcake with vanilla bean ice cream. God,

1690
01:33:00,653 --> 01:33:01,173
Speaker 24: it was good.

1691
01:33:02,613 --> 01:33:04,773
Speaker 2: Hey, was there anything else unique about.

1692
01:33:06,413 --> 01:33:10,173
Speaker 24: Well, it is Steampunk Headquarters. So the Victorian Precinct has

1693
01:33:10,213 --> 01:33:14,213
Speaker 24: got this outfit called Steampunk HQ. It is wacky, it's whimsical,

1694
01:33:14,253 --> 01:33:18,853
Speaker 24: it's eccentric. It starts with this full scale train engine

1695
01:33:18,853 --> 01:33:23,453
Speaker 24: outside the front, spitting fire and billowing smoke, and then

1696
01:33:23,933 --> 01:33:26,453
Speaker 24: inside you've got a museum of all sorts of weird

1697
01:33:26,533 --> 01:33:30,893
Speaker 24: contraptions and bizarre machinery, lots of copper and flickering lights,

1698
01:33:31,293 --> 01:33:33,213
Speaker 24: and out the back a whole lot of projects that

1699
01:33:33,293 --> 01:33:36,893
Speaker 24: are in various stages of being steampunked. It's sort of

1700
01:33:37,013 --> 01:33:41,733
Speaker 24: like a cross of industrial age, Victoriana and science fiction.

1701
01:33:42,013 --> 01:33:45,213
Speaker 24: And in fact, their website's probably got the best piece

1702
01:33:45,213 --> 01:33:49,813
Speaker 24: of advice steampunk must be experienced rather than explained.

1703
01:33:50,053 --> 01:33:51,173
Speaker 4: I think that's very you.

1704
01:33:51,413 --> 01:33:53,413
Speaker 2: I think that is so true. I think that is

1705
01:33:53,533 --> 01:33:58,213
Speaker 2: very true. Hey, Mike just quickly got recommendations for places

1706
01:33:58,213 --> 01:33:58,613
Speaker 2: to stay.

1707
01:33:59,573 --> 01:34:02,893
Speaker 24: I do love coming across a really distinctive accommodation experience

1708
01:34:03,013 --> 01:34:05,653
Speaker 24: with a really good backstory. And oh my goodness, there

1709
01:34:05,693 --> 01:34:09,573
Speaker 24: is this place I've just discovered called Cassanover House. So

1710
01:34:09,613 --> 01:34:12,453
Speaker 24: it was built in eighteen sixty one. It's the oldest

1711
01:34:12,573 --> 01:34:16,613
Speaker 24: stone house in the region and it's been impeccably restored.

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Speaker 2: A book that place fantastic lovely to chat Mike, thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for all that. For more tips on

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Speaker 2: Is I think probably going to be another sure fight

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Speaker 2: hit from the man dubbed mister shake your shoulders. There

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Speaker 2: we go. Joining us now to talk sport is Jason Pine.

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01:35:52,733 --> 01:35:55,893
Speaker 2: Of course, weekend sport coming up at midday, and let's

1734
01:35:55,933 --> 01:35:57,613
Speaker 2: have a little look here. Where are we at Piney

1735
01:35:57,653 --> 01:36:00,093
Speaker 2: where the black Caps are at one hundred and thirteen

1736
01:36:00,213 --> 01:36:02,813
Speaker 2: for seven. So the morning hasn't quite They only started

1737
01:36:02,813 --> 01:36:05,933
Speaker 2: at eleven, it's eleven thirty. Things haven't quite gone according

1738
01:36:05,933 --> 01:36:06,293
Speaker 2: to play.

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01:36:06,453 --> 01:36:09,413
Speaker 13: Hasn't panned out as we'd hoped. Francesca, I think it's

1740
01:36:09,413 --> 01:36:10,893
Speaker 13: fair to say you write a couple of wickets down

1741
01:36:10,893 --> 01:36:14,293
Speaker 13: already this morning, including Tom Blundell. He's out for sixteen.

1742
01:36:14,413 --> 01:36:16,693
Speaker 13: Well O'Rourke was in a Night Watchman, so they never

1743
01:36:16,733 --> 01:36:18,453
Speaker 13: expect them to hang around for very long. But he's

1744
01:36:18,453 --> 01:36:20,213
Speaker 13: out as well. You So one thirteen for seven, what

1745
01:36:20,253 --> 01:36:22,653
Speaker 13: do they make to eighty? So it's still best part.

1746
01:36:22,533 --> 01:36:24,093
Speaker 5: Of one hundred and sixty hundred and seventy short.

1747
01:36:24,253 --> 01:36:26,253
Speaker 2: This isn't test cricket. I should be sitting here bored.

1748
01:36:26,253 --> 01:36:28,133
Speaker 2: I should be sitting here going I have nothing to

1749
01:36:28,253 --> 01:36:31,933
Speaker 2: tell you, you know, I should be sitting here trying to

1750
01:36:32,053 --> 01:36:34,613
Speaker 2: keep these people up to date, but actually have nothing

1751
01:36:34,653 --> 01:36:36,773
Speaker 2: to say because we're just kind of, you know, gently

1752
01:36:36,813 --> 01:36:38,973
Speaker 2: plodding on getting some runs. But no, it's all go.

1753
01:36:39,253 --> 01:36:43,053
Speaker 13: This is the generation we have created, the instant gratification generation.

1754
01:36:44,213 --> 01:36:45,693
Speaker 13: Regardless of the color of the ball.

1755
01:36:46,173 --> 01:36:46,733
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right.

1756
01:36:46,773 --> 01:36:49,213
Speaker 13: Test cricket used to be, you know, a game that

1757
01:36:49,293 --> 01:36:53,013
Speaker 13: was played out sort of in quite long, extended periods.

1758
01:36:53,053 --> 01:36:54,573
Speaker 13: I can't remember the last time we had a five

1759
01:36:54,653 --> 01:36:57,653
Speaker 13: day Test. This one looks like it's hitting the same way.

1760
01:36:57,893 --> 01:36:59,973
Speaker 13: It's already so far in advanced we feel, what seventeen

1761
01:37:00,013 --> 01:37:02,653
Speaker 13: wickets in the Test match so far and we're only

1762
01:37:02,653 --> 01:37:04,373
Speaker 13: half an hour into day two. As you say, if

1763
01:37:04,413 --> 01:37:06,133
Speaker 13: they're still playing on Monday, it'll be a surprise.

1764
01:37:06,533 --> 01:37:08,453
Speaker 2: Hey, it's lovely to have you actually in the studio

1765
01:37:08,493 --> 01:37:12,173
Speaker 2: with us, which must mean it's a footy weekend in Auckland.

1766
01:37:12,613 --> 01:37:14,613
Speaker 5: Game this afternoon, massive, this derby.

1767
01:37:14,653 --> 01:37:17,733
Speaker 13: It's going to be an absolute Bobby Dazzler out there

1768
01:37:17,773 --> 01:37:20,933
Speaker 13: at Mount Smart this afternoon or Go Media Stadium. Twenty

1769
01:37:20,973 --> 01:37:24,733
Speaker 13: six thousand people rammed in. You can't get a ticket Auckland.

1770
01:37:24,733 --> 01:37:26,773
Speaker 13: They see you have quickly become this juggernaut of a

1771
01:37:26,773 --> 01:37:30,173
Speaker 13: football team and a marketing exercise as well. We're not

1772
01:37:30,213 --> 01:37:32,733
Speaker 13: a marketing exercise, but you know, just a marketing master

1773
01:37:32,813 --> 01:37:36,213
Speaker 13: stroke Beavers doing it. Incredible really that twenty six thousand

1774
01:37:36,213 --> 01:37:37,613
Speaker 13: people are turning up to watch a game between two

1775
01:37:37,613 --> 01:37:38,773
Speaker 13: New Zealand Football clubs.

1776
01:37:38,653 --> 01:37:41,813
Speaker 2: Twenty six and fifty three, which is one more than

1777
01:37:41,813 --> 01:37:44,853
Speaker 2: the last game. I love that stat. Are you surprised

1778
01:37:45,013 --> 01:37:50,973
Speaker 2: by just how well you know this? This team has

1779
01:37:51,053 --> 01:37:54,893
Speaker 2: launched itself both on the field and to be drawing

1780
01:37:54,893 --> 01:37:55,493
Speaker 2: these crowds.

1781
01:37:55,613 --> 01:37:57,333
Speaker 5: Yep, absolutely no one expected it.

1782
01:37:57,413 --> 01:37:57,773
Speaker 2: I did it.

1783
01:37:57,813 --> 01:37:57,933
Speaker 4: No.

1784
01:37:58,053 --> 01:37:59,293
Speaker 2: I didn't read the room on this. I thought it

1785
01:37:59,293 --> 01:38:00,813
Speaker 2: would take them years to build an audience.

1786
01:38:00,813 --> 01:38:02,413
Speaker 13: Well, if you compare it to the last two teams

1787
01:38:02,413 --> 01:38:03,893
Speaker 13: that came into the A League over the last four

1788
01:38:03,933 --> 01:38:07,533
Speaker 13: or five seasons, Western United and mccar based out of

1789
01:38:07,653 --> 01:38:11,533
Speaker 13: Melbourne and Sydney respectively, they got crowds initially of sort

1790
01:38:11,533 --> 01:38:13,613
Speaker 13: of four or five thousand, and that's what that's where

1791
01:38:13,613 --> 01:38:15,893
Speaker 13: it stayed. Here's Auckland, you know, sold out the first

1792
01:38:15,933 --> 01:38:18,693
Speaker 13: game year, called a lot of RRR and rasumetas around

1793
01:38:18,693 --> 01:38:21,293
Speaker 13: the first game, but it's been can continued. Thirteen thousand

1794
01:38:21,333 --> 01:38:23,293
Speaker 13: turn out in the rain last week, the pouring rain

1795
01:38:23,333 --> 01:38:25,413
Speaker 13: to watch them play twenty six this afternoon.

1796
01:38:25,533 --> 01:38:26,013
Speaker 5: On the field.

1797
01:38:26,013 --> 01:38:27,933
Speaker 13: It does help if you're winning, it helps people want

1798
01:38:27,973 --> 01:38:30,213
Speaker 13: to jump on a bandwagon. But I get the feeling

1799
01:38:30,213 --> 01:38:33,453
Speaker 13: that even even with and when they lose the old game,

1800
01:38:33,453 --> 01:38:35,573
Speaker 13: people will still turn up because it's become this occasion.

1801
01:38:35,893 --> 01:38:38,213
Speaker 2: Is it evenly matched this afternoon? Of course we've got

1802
01:38:38,573 --> 01:38:41,413
Speaker 2: Auckland FC currently top of the table, Wellington.

1803
01:38:41,173 --> 01:38:44,613
Speaker 5: Fourth at very even Ok. Yeah, there are two very

1804
01:38:44,613 --> 01:38:45,733
Speaker 5: good defensive sides.

1805
01:38:45,973 --> 01:38:47,493
Speaker 13: So I get the feeling this one won't be a

1806
01:38:47,533 --> 01:38:50,613
Speaker 13: sort of a five to four thriller, but it may

1807
01:38:50,653 --> 01:38:52,293
Speaker 13: well be broken open by one of two things. A

1808
01:38:52,293 --> 01:38:54,933
Speaker 13: moment of magic or a mistake. That's what happened in

1809
01:38:54,933 --> 01:38:57,453
Speaker 13: the first RB and Wellington goalkeeping mistake broke the game open.

1810
01:38:57,533 --> 01:38:59,333
Speaker 13: Auckland took advantage one at two nil.

1811
01:38:59,133 --> 01:38:59,493
Speaker 7: In the end.

1812
01:39:00,453 --> 01:39:04,533
Speaker 13: Yeah, there are so many there's so many layers to

1813
01:39:04,533 --> 01:39:07,813
Speaker 13: this game this afternoon. The players know each other so well.

1814
01:39:08,493 --> 01:39:11,293
Speaker 13: To New Zealand sides, there's nine hundred yellow Fever coming

1815
01:39:11,293 --> 01:39:11,853
Speaker 13: to this game.

1816
01:39:12,493 --> 01:39:12,693
Speaker 5: You know.

1817
01:39:12,853 --> 01:39:15,613
Speaker 13: Wellington have been bringing games to Aukland for ages. They've

1818
01:39:15,653 --> 01:39:19,013
Speaker 13: brought eighteen games here. Now for the first time they're

1819
01:39:19,013 --> 01:39:20,653
Speaker 13: here is the Await team. This is going to be

1820
01:39:20,693 --> 01:39:22,053
Speaker 13: an absolute.

1821
01:39:21,613 --> 01:39:23,493
Speaker 2: I love the way you described that, a moment of

1822
01:39:23,533 --> 01:39:26,133
Speaker 2: magic or a mistake. It kind of sums up my life.

1823
01:39:29,013 --> 01:39:29,613
Speaker 2: It's brilliant.

1824
01:39:29,773 --> 01:39:32,333
Speaker 13: Who's on the show today, we'll go inside both camps

1825
01:39:33,093 --> 01:39:35,893
Speaker 13: with Costa Barbarusa, Sernando Pineke. After midday we're going to

1826
01:39:35,893 --> 01:39:38,253
Speaker 13: be at the basin David Gower, one of the all

1827
01:39:38,293 --> 01:39:40,013
Speaker 13: time greats of English cricket and to join us so

1828
01:39:40,093 --> 01:39:43,733
Speaker 13: he'll be enjoying watching his countrymen take us apart. And

1829
01:39:43,773 --> 01:39:45,933
Speaker 13: a bit later on Anna Grimaldi on the show param

1830
01:39:46,213 --> 01:39:49,053
Speaker 13: gold Millis. She is an absolute diamond of a human being.

1831
01:39:49,253 --> 01:39:50,133
Speaker 13: Can't wait to chet to her.

1832
01:39:50,173 --> 01:39:52,013
Speaker 5: After two she made me cry.

1833
01:39:52,173 --> 01:39:54,093
Speaker 2: I love who she did this just so much joy

1834
01:39:54,533 --> 01:39:55,333
Speaker 2: in what she does.

1835
01:39:55,493 --> 01:39:58,213
Speaker 5: Right yep, yep, I love who too. Ye so chatting

1836
01:39:58,253 --> 01:39:59,013
Speaker 5: to her today.

1837
01:39:58,733 --> 01:40:01,013
Speaker 2: Too brilliant, Thank you so much. Jason Pine will be

1838
01:40:01,053 --> 01:40:03,653
Speaker 2: back in the studio at midday with Weekend Sport.

1839
01:40:03,653 --> 01:40:05,733
Speaker 1: No Bitter Way to kick off your weekend, then with

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Speaker 2: It is time to talk books and I'm joined by

1843
01:40:15,533 --> 01:40:20,893
Speaker 2: Katherine Rains. Good morning, Catherine, Morning, Francesca. David Baldacci has

1844
01:40:20,933 --> 01:40:21,933
Speaker 2: a new book out.

1845
01:40:23,493 --> 01:40:26,173
Speaker 25: He does and this is this third in his Travis

1846
01:40:26,173 --> 01:40:29,573
Speaker 25: Devine series and Travis has a very impressive background. He

1847
01:40:29,653 --> 01:40:31,853
Speaker 25: served as an arranger, he's worked on Wall Street, and

1848
01:40:31,893 --> 01:40:35,573
Speaker 25: he's currently what they probably term a fixer with Homeland Security.

1849
01:40:35,773 --> 01:40:38,853
Speaker 25: And he's also because he's this kind of guy trying

1850
01:40:38,853 --> 01:40:41,813
Speaker 25: to evade an assassin on his trail who's only known

1851
01:40:41,893 --> 01:40:44,733
Speaker 25: as the Girl on the Train. And Travis is sent

1852
01:40:44,813 --> 01:40:47,493
Speaker 25: to Seattle by his boss to for what seems a

1853
01:40:47,573 --> 01:40:51,093
Speaker 25: very straightfall job helping the FBI escort a young girl,

1854
01:40:51,133 --> 01:40:53,853
Speaker 25: a twelve year old named Betsy Odum to meeting with

1855
01:40:53,893 --> 01:40:57,533
Speaker 25: her wealthy business man Danny Glass. And Glass is accused

1856
01:40:57,533 --> 01:41:00,973
Speaker 25: of racketeering drug smuggling, and he awaits charges a trial

1857
01:41:01,013 --> 01:41:04,173
Speaker 25: on multiple charges in Washington State, and he's seeking custody

1858
01:41:04,213 --> 01:41:06,813
Speaker 25: of Betsy following the death of her peers in a

1859
01:41:06,933 --> 01:41:10,973
Speaker 25: supposed drug overdose. And as Travis de dalves deeper, he

1860
01:41:11,013 --> 01:41:14,013
Speaker 25: suspects our player around Betsy's parents' death. There's things that

1861
01:41:14,093 --> 01:41:16,613
Speaker 25: don't add up, and what's Betsy's saying about what happened

1862
01:41:16,653 --> 01:41:19,173
Speaker 25: really doesn't add up. And so what starts as a

1863
01:41:19,213 --> 01:41:21,853
Speaker 25: really routine mission all of a sudden escalates into something

1864
01:41:21,933 --> 01:41:24,893
Speaker 25: much darker and more dangerous, and he starts to uncover

1865
01:41:24,973 --> 01:41:27,453
Speaker 25: this web of secrets, and it's an action packed story

1866
01:41:27,533 --> 01:41:30,413
Speaker 25: with lots of twists and turns and an enormous dose

1867
01:41:30,453 --> 01:41:32,733
Speaker 25: of tension. And it's a great page turning thriller.

1868
01:41:32,853 --> 01:41:34,933
Speaker 2: Okay. So if someone gave me this for Christmas and

1869
01:41:34,933 --> 01:41:37,293
Speaker 2: I hadn't read the first two books, would it matter?

1870
01:41:37,813 --> 01:41:40,053
Speaker 25: No, it doesn't matter at all, and pick them up anywhere.

1871
01:41:40,133 --> 01:41:44,493
Speaker 2: Okay. Brilliant. Now, Matt Wyman, he has co written books

1872
01:41:44,533 --> 01:41:46,933
Speaker 2: with some of the world's leading figures in sport, and

1873
01:41:46,973 --> 01:41:49,813
Speaker 2: he has been embedded with the Mercedes IF one team

1874
01:41:50,253 --> 01:41:52,733
Speaker 2: for twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four, and he

1875
01:41:52,813 --> 01:41:54,493
Speaker 2: has new book out.

1876
01:41:55,453 --> 01:41:58,293
Speaker 25: He does so he after writing many of the books

1877
01:41:58,333 --> 01:42:00,053
Speaker 25: that he did, and you know the research that he's done,

1878
01:42:00,053 --> 01:42:02,933
Speaker 25: he's now very focused on the Mercedes AMG Patrona's IF

1879
01:42:02,973 --> 01:42:05,493
Speaker 25: one team and he spends, as you said, a year

1880
01:42:05,613 --> 01:42:09,573
Speaker 25: embedded with and he chronicles individual race weekends and story

1881
01:42:09,733 --> 01:42:11,733
Speaker 25: with his time with the team's personnel.

1882
01:42:12,653 --> 01:42:14,333
Speaker 17: And he packs.

1883
01:42:14,013 --> 01:42:17,173
Speaker 25: Mercedes at a time where they had won eight Constructors

1884
01:42:17,253 --> 01:42:19,533
Speaker 25: Championships and that ended for them in twenty twenty one,

1885
01:42:20,093 --> 01:42:22,453
Speaker 25: and so this book covers a period when the winning's

1886
01:42:22,493 --> 01:42:25,053
Speaker 25: over and Mercedes are really on the back foot, and

1887
01:42:25,093 --> 01:42:27,933
Speaker 25: he talks about their culture and determination and that resilience

1888
01:42:27,933 --> 01:42:30,413
Speaker 25: of the team. And the first sort of chapter includes

1889
01:42:30,453 --> 01:42:32,533
Speaker 25: a lot of scene setting and background information about the

1890
01:42:32,573 --> 01:42:34,573
Speaker 25: team and the support of F one, and I felt

1891
01:42:34,613 --> 01:42:37,653
Speaker 25: like the book was targeted at a much wider audience

1892
01:42:37,733 --> 01:42:40,253
Speaker 25: than just F one of Fersonalitio. So probably all of

1893
01:42:40,293 --> 01:42:43,053
Speaker 25: us that watch Drive to Survive on Netflix would be

1894
01:42:43,213 --> 01:42:46,333
Speaker 25: this is the perfect kind of book. And it's told,

1895
01:42:46,493 --> 01:42:49,133
Speaker 25: as I mentioned before, the backdrop of those races across

1896
01:42:49,173 --> 01:42:52,453
Speaker 25: that season and focusing on the individuals and their particular

1897
01:42:52,533 --> 01:42:54,973
Speaker 25: roles in the team. So he talks to mechanics and

1898
01:42:55,013 --> 01:42:57,613
Speaker 25: engineers and strategist and the pit crew and majastics and

1899
01:42:57,653 --> 01:43:00,493
Speaker 25: pr folks, and then he also talks to Total Wolf,

1900
01:43:00,493 --> 01:43:02,653
Speaker 25: who's the principal of the team, and he captures all

1901
01:43:02,693 --> 01:43:05,773
Speaker 25: of those personalities and what's really interesting is some of

1902
01:43:05,773 --> 01:43:07,733
Speaker 25: the personal crowns of the people on the team and

1903
01:43:07,773 --> 01:43:10,693
Speaker 25: the passions and why they're in F one. And so

1904
01:43:10,773 --> 01:43:13,693
Speaker 25: with the interviews with people like the team principal Toto Wolf,

1905
01:43:13,693 --> 01:43:17,133
Speaker 25: and the drivers George Rushall and Lewis Hamilton, and yeah,

1906
01:43:17,893 --> 01:43:21,493
Speaker 25: really interesting tales. And also included in this was Hamilton's

1907
01:43:21,493 --> 01:43:24,613
Speaker 25: surprise move to decide to design for Ferrari, and so

1908
01:43:24,613 --> 01:43:27,493
Speaker 25: it's covered in lots of detail from both Hamilton.

1909
01:43:27,133 --> 01:43:29,893
Speaker 2: And Wolf's right up to date, right.

1910
01:43:29,773 --> 01:43:32,413
Speaker 25: Up to date. And yeah, it's written really well, and

1911
01:43:32,453 --> 01:43:35,173
Speaker 25: you feel like you have not part of the team,

1912
01:43:35,253 --> 01:43:37,373
Speaker 25: but you know part of the inside knowledge of how

1913
01:43:37,373 --> 01:43:41,693
Speaker 25: the team works because previously, before really Drive to Survive,

1914
01:43:42,013 --> 01:43:44,573
Speaker 25: these teams were very private. So actually you find a

1915
01:43:44,573 --> 01:43:46,453
Speaker 25: lot of information and a lot of things that you

1916
01:43:46,493 --> 01:43:50,013
Speaker 25: wouldn't necessarily get to see or hear about. And you

1917
01:43:50,053 --> 01:43:52,653
Speaker 25: know how things work and what goes on behind an

1918
01:43:52,733 --> 01:43:53,293
Speaker 25: F one team.

1919
01:43:53,373 --> 01:43:56,613
Speaker 2: Yes, and if you're an F one aficionado like my

1920
01:43:57,253 --> 01:43:59,733
Speaker 2: sixteen year old daughter is, then she will tell you

1921
01:43:59,773 --> 01:44:01,893
Speaker 2: that you don't really get the full story watching Drive

1922
01:44:01,933 --> 01:44:02,733
Speaker 2: to Survive.

1923
01:44:02,493 --> 01:44:05,373
Speaker 11: So no, you don't know, No, you don't.

1924
01:44:05,373 --> 01:44:07,093
Speaker 17: So this has a lot of the the scenes thing.

1925
01:44:07,133 --> 01:44:09,453
Speaker 25: You know, how the driver testing works and the simulators

1926
01:44:09,493 --> 01:44:10,733
Speaker 25: and all that sort of stuff. So because you're a

1927
01:44:10,733 --> 01:44:13,853
Speaker 25: little bit more insight than yeah, Drive to Survive, if one.

1928
01:44:13,853 --> 01:44:16,533
Speaker 2: Does brilliant, Thank you so much, Catherine. Are those two

1929
01:44:16,573 --> 01:44:19,253
Speaker 2: books that Catherine mentioned there to Die For by David

1930
01:44:19,493 --> 01:44:23,413
Speaker 2: Baldacci And also I must mention that he is actually

1931
01:44:23,573 --> 01:44:28,293
Speaker 2: coming to New Zealand. He is doing one public event.

1932
01:44:28,693 --> 01:44:31,853
Speaker 2: It is on Thursday, the thirtieth of January. It is

1933
01:44:31,973 --> 01:44:35,613
Speaker 2: happening in Auckland. It has been presented by the Auckland Writers' Festival.

1934
01:44:36,053 --> 01:44:39,613
Speaker 2: So if you are a fan of David's gripping suspense

1935
01:44:39,733 --> 01:44:43,533
Speaker 2: novels and taught legal thrillers, you might want to come

1936
01:44:43,613 --> 01:44:46,853
Speaker 2: and see him in person. So as I mentioned, that

1937
01:44:46,973 --> 01:44:49,693
Speaker 2: event is on Thursday the thirtieth of January twenty twenty

1938
01:44:49,733 --> 01:44:52,453
Speaker 2: five and you can get your tickets from Ticketmaster, dot

1939
01:44:52,453 --> 01:44:55,333
Speaker 2: co dot NZ. The other book that Catherine mentioned there

1940
01:44:55,453 --> 01:44:59,453
Speaker 2: was Inside Mercedes if One by Matt Wyman. It is

1941
01:44:59,653 --> 01:45:01,133
Speaker 2: eighteen to twelve. Newstalks are b.

1942
01:45:02,133 --> 01:45:05,093
Speaker 1: Giving you the inside school on all you need to Know.

1943
01:45:05,533 --> 01:45:09,533
Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with Francesca Rudkin, Infra Jack Day and be

1944
01:45:09,773 --> 01:45:13,133
Speaker 1: Pure Quality Supplements for Essential Energy News Talk said, Be

1945
01:45:13,773 --> 01:45:14,933
Speaker 1: Wow Home.

1946
01:45:14,613 --> 01:45:18,693
Speaker 26: Mac Waiting Holman dreaming.

1947
01:45:20,093 --> 01:45:23,413
Speaker 8: Let you find your own way back to me, because

1948
01:45:23,453 --> 01:45:27,093
Speaker 8: there's only you.

1949
01:45:27,093 --> 01:45:29,813
Speaker 15: You.

1950
01:45:29,813 --> 01:45:42,213
Speaker 26: You are there, You, you are there you You.

1951
01:45:42,893 --> 01:45:46,413
Speaker 2: I am loving the vocals here. This is all there is.

1952
01:45:46,533 --> 01:45:49,733
Speaker 2: This is a new song by Corella. It is off

1953
01:45:49,773 --> 01:45:53,293
Speaker 2: their brand new album they've just released, Skeletons and to

1954
01:45:53,413 --> 01:45:55,013
Speaker 2: tell me what you thinks of it. We're joined by

1955
01:45:55,133 --> 01:45:58,173
Speaker 2: Estelle Clifford. Good morning, Francesca.

1956
01:45:58,693 --> 01:46:01,573
Speaker 27: Isn't that just a beautiful Always jealous of people who

1957
01:46:01,573 --> 01:46:04,653
Speaker 27: can just stram the guitar so beautifully and then they

1958
01:46:04,813 --> 01:46:08,253
Speaker 27: wire across it. You're like just falling in love with

1959
01:46:08,413 --> 01:46:11,933
Speaker 27: those vocals and him as he sings, and Corella are

1960
01:46:12,013 --> 01:46:15,173
Speaker 27: really really good at that kind of thing, that simple,

1961
01:46:15,613 --> 01:46:19,413
Speaker 27: beautiful melody, and then suddenly all those layers you hear

1962
01:46:19,493 --> 01:46:22,773
Speaker 27: underneath it with a percussion, like the whole this whole

1963
01:46:22,813 --> 01:46:25,573
Speaker 27: album has got really great production, and then some are

1964
01:46:25,613 --> 01:46:28,773
Speaker 27: really you know that paired that kind of beautiful singing,

1965
01:46:29,493 --> 01:46:32,173
Speaker 27: and then suddenly you've got like the full horn section.

1966
01:46:32,573 --> 01:46:35,413
Speaker 2: There all go yeah yeah, bringing in that first of

1967
01:46:35,413 --> 01:46:35,933
Speaker 2: all vibe.

1968
01:46:36,173 --> 01:46:39,013
Speaker 27: And I think when you can sing, that's the bid a, Like,

1969
01:46:39,053 --> 01:46:41,053
Speaker 27: that's the bit that's going to capture everybody. If you've

1970
01:46:41,093 --> 01:46:44,373
Speaker 27: got great vocals, then I reckon you're you're gonna draw

1971
01:46:44,373 --> 01:46:46,373
Speaker 27: people into your to your album what you've got going on.

1972
01:46:46,773 --> 01:46:49,733
Speaker 2: Absolutely well, that totally got me there. Yeah, But I

1973
01:46:49,933 --> 01:46:52,093
Speaker 2: think that's also great to know because I think we

1974
01:46:52,693 --> 01:46:55,173
Speaker 2: people might be more familiar with some of the more upbeat,

1975
01:46:55,253 --> 01:46:56,213
Speaker 2: full on tracks.

1976
01:46:56,493 --> 01:46:59,893
Speaker 27: Absolutely yeah, and they're on this album Skeletons covers all

1977
01:46:59,973 --> 01:47:03,013
Speaker 27: of that, and it starts with that. You know, you've

1978
01:47:03,013 --> 01:47:07,053
Speaker 27: got those big, huge summer big horn set and then

1979
01:47:07,093 --> 01:47:10,453
Speaker 27: the big percussion comes in and all the voices singing

1980
01:47:10,453 --> 01:47:14,733
Speaker 27: at once. So they've got that reggae dub soul funk

1981
01:47:14,813 --> 01:47:16,493
Speaker 27: kind of thing going on where you can party and

1982
01:47:16,573 --> 01:47:18,853
Speaker 27: dance along. But I sort of think they've also got

1983
01:47:18,853 --> 01:47:21,173
Speaker 27: this awesome set in their album where you know those

1984
01:47:21,173 --> 01:47:22,853
Speaker 27: bits where everyone just needs to take a little bit

1985
01:47:22,893 --> 01:47:24,253
Speaker 27: of a quiet moment and love each other.

1986
01:47:25,893 --> 01:47:27,693
Speaker 2: Hey, tell me a little bit about these guys. I'm

1987
01:47:27,733 --> 01:47:28,933
Speaker 2: not usually familiar with them.

1988
01:47:29,293 --> 01:47:34,573
Speaker 27: Yeah, So Peepee pharo Rawer and Tenaware they actually met

1989
01:47:34,613 --> 01:47:39,333
Speaker 27: in the Royal New Zealand a navy so they're navy people.

1990
01:47:40,093 --> 01:47:43,053
Speaker 27: I think Tenawere, if I'm correct, is still in the Navy.

1991
01:47:43,133 --> 01:47:46,133
Speaker 27: So they actually started doing like a band that did

1992
01:47:46,173 --> 01:47:47,653
Speaker 27: pub covers.

1993
01:47:48,533 --> 01:47:49,213
Speaker 17: So if you can.

1994
01:47:49,093 --> 01:47:50,893
Speaker 27: Master that and get everyone on the dance floor, I

1995
01:47:50,893 --> 01:47:53,373
Speaker 27: reckon it's a great place to start. But they went

1996
01:47:53,493 --> 01:47:56,253
Speaker 27: to one of the one Love festivals, and I think

1997
01:47:56,293 --> 01:47:59,093
Speaker 27: that was the draw card for them, where they're like, actually,

1998
01:47:59,133 --> 01:48:01,893
Speaker 27: we could probably start writing and creating our own music

1999
01:48:02,573 --> 01:48:06,373
Speaker 27: and get up on that stage. Like a cool background

2000
01:48:06,573 --> 01:48:08,693
Speaker 27: to have doing those bands that go and through the

2001
01:48:08,733 --> 01:48:10,573
Speaker 27: pubs and stuff and make everyone happy. But then to

2002
01:48:10,613 --> 01:48:13,293
Speaker 27: start believing in yourself and writing your own music and

2003
01:48:13,333 --> 01:48:16,493
Speaker 27: your own stories. That was the instigator I think for

2004
01:48:16,533 --> 01:48:18,973
Speaker 27: them at the One Love Festival, and then pretty much

2005
01:48:18,973 --> 01:48:23,333
Speaker 27: over the last three years they have just been working, working, working,

2006
01:48:23,373 --> 01:48:29,173
Speaker 27: working to really solidify what their sound is. They won

2007
01:48:29,533 --> 01:48:32,693
Speaker 27: a couple of awards at the Alteredler Music Awards.

2008
01:48:34,213 --> 01:48:34,893
Speaker 2: Was that last.

2009
01:48:34,773 --> 01:48:38,413
Speaker 27: Year, I think it was an't it?

2010
01:48:38,493 --> 01:48:38,693
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2011
01:48:38,733 --> 01:48:40,653
Speaker 27: Yeah, So they won for one of their big singles,

2012
01:48:41,533 --> 01:48:44,613
Speaker 27: blue Eyed Mardy beautiful song and really great and also

2013
01:48:44,613 --> 01:48:48,053
Speaker 27: with that Slight Mardi Humor, and then also one of

2014
01:48:48,093 --> 01:48:51,093
Speaker 27: the Breakthrough Artist Awards. So that sort of helps write

2015
01:48:51,133 --> 01:48:53,893
Speaker 27: catapult you. And I've heard a few interviews with them

2016
01:48:53,933 --> 01:48:56,013
Speaker 27: where they're like, well, this is the bit to remind

2017
01:48:56,053 --> 01:48:58,253
Speaker 27: you that all that hard Mahi, all that hard work

2018
01:48:58,853 --> 01:49:01,373
Speaker 27: does pay off, because suddenly you're starting to get recognition for.

2019
01:49:01,413 --> 01:49:01,893
Speaker 6: What you do.

2020
01:49:02,013 --> 01:49:04,053
Speaker 27: But it also gives you that fizz to be like, yeah,

2021
01:49:04,133 --> 01:49:06,893
Speaker 27: let's keep working and creating more. And I think what

2022
01:49:06,933 --> 01:49:11,053
Speaker 27: they've done with this album is really played and discovered

2023
01:49:11,093 --> 01:49:13,813
Speaker 27: more of what their sound can be. I mean, it's

2024
01:49:13,813 --> 01:49:18,373
Speaker 27: all extremely talented musicians, so they can probably do whatever

2025
01:49:18,413 --> 01:49:22,053
Speaker 27: they want to be fair, but really sticking with that cool,

2026
01:49:22,173 --> 01:49:26,533
Speaker 27: summer festival, fun, upbeat kind of vibe. There's a bit

2027
01:49:26,533 --> 01:49:30,213
Speaker 27: of probably a political social commentary in some of the songs.

2028
01:49:30,853 --> 01:49:34,733
Speaker 27: One's called Cookie. I was listening to it being like, Wow,

2029
01:49:34,893 --> 01:49:37,093
Speaker 27: Cookie's really getting his beans, and then I realized they're

2030
01:49:37,093 --> 01:49:41,453
Speaker 27: talking about Captain Cook. So we've all got our version

2031
01:49:41,493 --> 01:49:44,933
Speaker 27: of history and how to tell that story. But it's

2032
01:49:44,933 --> 01:49:49,133
Speaker 27: a really really catchy song and I liked it, but

2033
01:49:49,213 --> 01:49:51,413
Speaker 27: I think there's, yeah, it's an interesting one to listen

2034
01:49:51,413 --> 01:49:55,373
Speaker 27: to it. There's also a song called two Chuur, and

2035
01:49:55,413 --> 01:49:57,693
Speaker 27: I figure that if someone can sing I'm too sexy,

2036
01:49:57,773 --> 01:49:59,293
Speaker 27: then why can't you sing I'm too.

2037
01:49:59,253 --> 01:50:00,933
Speaker 17: Chuur to chur?

2038
01:50:03,053 --> 01:50:07,293
Speaker 27: It's so good, Like there's those beautiful Kiwi loquialisms. They're

2039
01:50:07,413 --> 01:50:09,413
Speaker 27: just beautiful that you find on this album, and it

2040
01:50:09,453 --> 01:50:11,773
Speaker 27: made me laugh and smile, and I'm like, that's the

2041
01:50:11,813 --> 01:50:14,933
Speaker 27: wonderful thing that music can do as well as celebrating,

2042
01:50:15,653 --> 01:50:18,373
Speaker 27: you know, a really upbeat kind of vibe about someone.

2043
01:50:18,653 --> 01:50:20,853
Speaker 2: Still, this is the second album, isn't it? Yeah, it is,

2044
01:50:21,173 --> 01:50:23,853
Speaker 2: so you've seen quite a step up. Do you think

2045
01:50:23,893 --> 01:50:25,453
Speaker 2: between that first and second album?

2046
01:50:25,773 --> 01:50:27,253
Speaker 27: I think someone do you know what I think it

2047
01:50:27,293 --> 01:50:30,733
Speaker 27: is is confidence in what you're writing. That's often the

2048
01:50:30,853 --> 01:50:33,493
Speaker 27: change that I think happens to people across their albums.

2049
01:50:33,733 --> 01:50:36,693
Speaker 27: They start with something and it's beautiful and it's nice.

2050
01:50:36,773 --> 01:50:40,893
Speaker 27: But I think that evolution and the hard work is going. Actually,

2051
01:50:41,533 --> 01:50:45,293
Speaker 27: we can push that further. We can add more layers here,

2052
01:50:45,373 --> 01:50:48,853
Speaker 27: We can use our vocals differently, we can write our

2053
01:50:48,973 --> 01:50:53,133
Speaker 27: stories from our perspective, and that's what people follow artists for,

2054
01:50:53,373 --> 01:50:56,333
Speaker 27: right to hear their version of something. Doesn't necessarily have

2055
01:50:56,373 --> 01:50:58,733
Speaker 27: to be your version of something, but we can all

2056
01:50:58,853 --> 01:51:01,653
Speaker 27: learn from there and grow. And I think as artists

2057
01:51:01,653 --> 01:51:04,253
Speaker 27: that's really nice to hear them have that confidence to

2058
01:51:04,293 --> 01:51:04,773
Speaker 27: do that too.

2059
01:51:05,573 --> 01:51:08,773
Speaker 2: Why does the whole reggae things sort of resonate so

2060
01:51:08,853 --> 01:51:09,933
Speaker 2: much in New Zealand?

2061
01:51:10,133 --> 01:51:13,093
Speaker 27: It's really interesting because we have a real do you know.

2062
01:51:13,133 --> 01:51:14,733
Speaker 27: I think we just all actually really love saying a

2063
01:51:14,773 --> 01:51:18,773
Speaker 27: brass and horn section. It's pretty sexy when someone's up

2064
01:51:18,773 --> 01:51:19,693
Speaker 27: there with the trump today.

2065
01:51:20,573 --> 01:51:21,413
Speaker 17: Maybe there's a bit of that.

2066
01:51:21,733 --> 01:51:25,213
Speaker 27: I think it has a positive, fun sound I think

2067
01:51:25,253 --> 01:51:29,173
Speaker 27: culturally it's something that we can really embrace. We all

2068
01:51:29,213 --> 01:51:31,013
Speaker 27: obviously like to shake our booty a little bit.

2069
01:51:31,133 --> 01:51:34,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, this just suits the vibe.

2070
01:51:34,053 --> 01:51:34,733
Speaker 17: It does, I think.

2071
01:51:34,733 --> 01:51:36,453
Speaker 27: And it also you know a lot of our musicians

2072
01:51:36,453 --> 01:51:40,053
Speaker 27: do have a background in jazz and soul, and I

2073
01:51:40,093 --> 01:51:42,653
Speaker 27: think that's part of an evolution of that music working

2074
01:51:42,693 --> 01:51:48,093
Speaker 27: together good musicianship, right, absolutely, because those are the foundations

2075
01:51:48,133 --> 01:51:50,413
Speaker 27: to being able to play any chord, being able to

2076
01:51:50,453 --> 01:51:54,133
Speaker 27: push your vocals, play with your voice, play with your instruments.

2077
01:51:54,533 --> 01:51:57,413
Speaker 27: Those foundations, you know, then open you up to stuff

2078
01:51:57,453 --> 01:51:58,933
Speaker 27: and there's kind of you know, on this album, there

2079
01:51:59,013 --> 01:52:01,973
Speaker 27: is that reggae thing. They've gone a bit pop. Sometimes

2080
01:52:02,013 --> 01:52:04,893
Speaker 27: there's a bit of rock, and I think again, if

2081
01:52:04,933 --> 01:52:07,053
Speaker 27: you've got those foundations, they kind of work together. And

2082
01:52:07,093 --> 01:52:10,413
Speaker 27: also there's just something beautiful about positive, happy sounding music.

2083
01:52:11,733 --> 01:52:13,613
Speaker 2: Wrap it up for me, what we're going to rate

2084
01:52:13,693 --> 01:52:14,173
Speaker 2: the number?

2085
01:52:14,653 --> 01:52:16,973
Speaker 27: Oh this is so hard for me, Francesca, this is

2086
01:52:16,973 --> 01:52:19,293
Speaker 27: the hardest burd of anyone who as opposed to us

2087
01:52:19,493 --> 01:52:23,533
Speaker 27: talking everybody up supporting Lab across their summer tour nine shows.

2088
01:52:23,573 --> 01:52:26,133
Speaker 27: I think you're gonna love this album. I'm just gonna

2089
01:52:26,173 --> 01:52:29,773
Speaker 27: go with a ten out of ten for beautiful sounds

2090
01:52:29,813 --> 01:52:31,293
Speaker 27: and voices amazing.

2091
01:52:31,453 --> 01:52:34,413
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Estelle. I always love Estelle's positivity

2092
01:52:34,453 --> 01:52:36,013
Speaker 2: around these things. We're going to play a little bit

2093
01:52:36,053 --> 01:52:41,293
Speaker 2: more from Corella after the break. It is eight to twelve.

2094
01:52:43,173 --> 01:52:46,973
Speaker 1: A cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday mornings with

2095
01:52:47,133 --> 01:52:51,613
Speaker 1: Francesca Rudkin, Infjack tam and BE Pure Quality Supplements for

2096
01:52:51,733 --> 01:52:53,453
Speaker 1: essential energy news talks at BE.

2097
01:52:54,093 --> 01:52:56,453
Speaker 2: You look away for just one moment and then you

2098
01:52:56,493 --> 01:53:01,133
Speaker 2: look back at the tally and England is batting. So

2099
01:53:01,173 --> 01:53:03,453
Speaker 2: there we go, folks. Of course, Jason Pine will be back,

2100
01:53:03,813 --> 01:53:05,693
Speaker 2: will be with you in just a moment at midday

2101
01:53:05,693 --> 01:53:08,133
Speaker 2: with weekendsports, so he will keep you abreast of everything

2102
01:53:08,173 --> 01:53:12,413
Speaker 2: which is happening between the black Cats and England. But yes,

2103
01:53:12,533 --> 01:53:17,693
Speaker 2: the black Cats bashing innings is over and England is

2104
01:53:17,733 --> 01:53:19,813
Speaker 2: now at the crease. Okay. Thank you so much to

2105
01:53:19,813 --> 01:53:21,813
Speaker 2: Libby for producing the show. Thank you so much for

2106
01:53:21,893 --> 01:53:25,093
Speaker 2: joining us this morning. Please join me tomorrow on the

2107
01:53:25,133 --> 01:53:28,373
Speaker 2: Sunday session. I have some deliciously dorky people on the

2108
01:53:28,373 --> 01:53:32,373
Speaker 2: show tomorrow. That is their words, not mine. QI Trivia Podcast.

2109
01:53:32,533 --> 01:53:34,813
Speaker 2: No such Thing as a Fish is one of the

2110
01:53:34,853 --> 01:53:38,533
Speaker 2: biggest global podcasts. They've been going for ten years. They've

2111
01:53:38,533 --> 01:53:42,853
Speaker 2: recorded over six hundred episodes, They've got half a billion listens.

2112
01:53:43,533 --> 01:53:45,653
Speaker 2: They average about a million downloads a week. Okay, so

2113
01:53:45,693 --> 01:53:48,573
Speaker 2: you get the picture. They're huge. And the podcast is

2114
01:53:48,613 --> 01:53:52,893
Speaker 2: hosted by very four very smart, funny people, and two

2115
01:53:52,933 --> 01:53:55,533
Speaker 2: of them are going to join me tomorrow and we're

2116
01:53:55,573 --> 01:53:58,053
Speaker 2: going to talk about this. Whole podcast is based around

2117
01:53:58,093 --> 01:54:00,573
Speaker 2: them sharing the most interesting facts that they've found that week,

2118
01:54:00,613 --> 01:54:02,653
Speaker 2: so we're going to talk about where they find these

2119
01:54:02,893 --> 01:54:07,293
Speaker 2: quite obscure facts at times, and the popularity of the show.

2120
01:54:07,373 --> 01:54:09,253
Speaker 2: So they're going to be with me tomorrow on the

2121
01:54:09,293 --> 01:54:12,653
Speaker 2: Sunday session after ten a m. It's a great podcast,

2122
01:54:12,733 --> 01:54:14,373
Speaker 2: actually perfectly summer if you're going to do lots of

2123
01:54:14,453 --> 01:54:16,333
Speaker 2: driving around the country with your family. Good for the

2124
01:54:16,373 --> 01:54:16,893
Speaker 2: whole family.

2125
01:54:17,613 --> 01:54:17,813
Speaker 11: Right.

2126
01:54:17,853 --> 01:54:20,573
Speaker 2: We are going to finish up with some more music

2127
01:54:20,653 --> 01:54:24,693
Speaker 2: from Corella. This is Skeletons. The album is self reviewed

2128
01:54:24,773 --> 01:54:28,013
Speaker 2: with Skeletons enjoy, have a fabulous afternoon. I'll see you

2129
01:54:28,093 --> 01:54:29,293
Speaker 2: back tomorrow at nine.

2130
01:54:30,013 --> 01:54:38,173
Speaker 11: Your Past Virgin, every much Duster they didn't go there

2131
01:54:38,253 --> 01:54:58,613
Speaker 11: on this night again be the ones. If you want

2132
01:54:58,733 --> 01:55:05,133
Speaker 11: me to let me show you what genever had the

2133
01:55:05,413 --> 01:55:06,253
Speaker 11: word manka.

2134
01:55:06,613 --> 01:55:09,613
Speaker 1: Do they never made you?

2135
01:55:09,613 --> 01:55:09,893
Speaker 3: Come?

2136
01:55:10,053 --> 01:55:13,893
Speaker 11: Come baby, Come, Come, Come, B become come.

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Speaker 7: The B.

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Speaker 11: I can be the one one TB one one one,

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Speaker 11: TV one one.

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Speaker 10: Send your armies. I will fight that one. By your

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Speaker 10: pass me hard you but fight that.

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Speaker 11: Skeletons in the closet, don't scurvy.

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 10: Every ghost of your past can virgin every ex amount

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Speaker 10: of spot.

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Speaker 11: Don't sturve me. Nope. If they didn't see go, they

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Speaker 11: don't do. The skeletons in the closet.

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Speaker 10: Don't scurvy No, every ghost of your past and virgi

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Speaker 10: the reaxing.

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Speaker 11: Mount of spot, don't scurvy.

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Speaker 7: No, he didn't.

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Speaker 10: No, no, no.

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Speaker 3: No, no no.

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