1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: for New Zealand business. 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 2: I think you believe that even though it's hard of hearts. 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 2: Do you think it is that why Ferrari's moving out 5 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 2: of Marinello into Alabama? 6 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: Is it? Oh? 7 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 2: They're not, that's right, Catherine. How are you doing? 8 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: I'm fine? Thank you? 9 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: Meg? 10 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: What about yourself? 11 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: Well, I mean I'm just I mean, I'm fantastic obviously, 12 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 2: but but but I mean, you sit there in Europe 13 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: and you've got this idiot talking about this then, and 14 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: then where are you guys at with your tariffs? And 15 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 2: who's hitt and who isn't and what's next and whether 16 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: anybody knows what's going on? 17 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: Oh? Isn't it just a roller coaster? You know? You 18 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: wake up every morning you think, okay, what are we 19 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: going to have to deal with today? But when it 20 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: comes to tariff's, Yes, there was that sort of sigh 21 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: of relief last week when everything was put on a 22 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: ninety day pause and everyone started knowing about the difference 23 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: between the twenty percent tariff ten percent tariff. But the 24 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: message that came through, and it wasn't just from President 25 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: Macroma here in Paris, but also across Europe was you know, 26 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: don't breathe a sigh of relief just yet. There's a 27 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: long way to go. It could all change overnight. And 28 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: one of the big things that they're saying, you know 29 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: is and the big concern is what is China going 30 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: to do with all these products that are coming off 31 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: its assembly lines that won't be going to the United States. 32 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: So in particular, they're really concerned that Europe's going to 33 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: see a lot of products has been dumped on its markets. 34 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: The products we're kind of talking about, aluminiums solar panels, 35 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: vehicle parts, electrical parts, these things that could so easily 36 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: creep into the European market and very quickly at the 37 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: same time, Mike, really cause an upset to economies in 38 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 1: Europe that are already a bit shaky at the best 39 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:44,559 Speaker 1: of times. 40 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 2: Exactly by the way, Germany, so just update me on this, 41 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: because post the election, it seemed they're all set to go, 42 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: we'll have a talk, we'll all get on together, will 43 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: form a government. Then it sort of fell apart. Then 44 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: last week, i think it was last week, they had 45 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: a deal allegedly are they up and running, Are they 46 00:01:59,040 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: in business yet? 47 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: It looks as though they may be up on business 48 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: first week of May. The reason why it all went 49 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: so quiet was, believe it or not, Mike, they did 50 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: it all behind closed the door and there were no leaks. 51 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: No one knew what was going on, and they suddenly 52 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 1: turned around and said, yes, we've got a deal. It's 53 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: got to go to the party members, both of the chancellor, 54 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: the incumbent chancellor his SPD party has got to vote 55 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: on it, and the Conservatives they've got to vote on 56 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: it as well. But it looks pretty much as though 57 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: come about the sixth of May, Matz will become the chancellor. 58 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: He's already started talking about what he's going to do 59 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: when he takes office. And this is where we've seen 60 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: some big changes, Mike. And the biggest one really is 61 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: that in the last couple of days he said that 62 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: he will when his chancellor organized that Germany delivers tourists 63 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: cruise missiles to Ukraine. These missiles can be integrated into 64 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: the Ukrainian Air Force. They can be used against certain targets. 65 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: Now you know the idea that Germany would get involved 66 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: with delivering these types of highly developed, highly infrastructure, this 67 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: type of weapon that is way beyond what the French 68 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: and the Brits have been giving to the Ukrainians. You know, 69 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,559 Speaker 1: a couple of months ago, it would have been unbelievable. 70 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: Now they're talking about this. He's saying he wants to 71 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: see that, and everyone's just looking and saying, well, these 72 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: are the times we live in. They're going to deliver 73 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: these tourists missiles, and they're even talking about which bits 74 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: of the infrastructure they're going to hitch, such as in particular, 75 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: Fridrich Mattz talked about hitting the Kirch Bridge. That's that 76 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: important bridge which links Russia and Crimea. 77 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: Which is why I applied the trump But beforehand, are 78 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: we heading to what as Germany and locks it with Europe? 79 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: Are we heading towards a ceasefire? Or are we heading 80 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: towards the rearming of Ukraine and the walls all on? 81 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: No one talks about a seas fire here, Let's make 82 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: that absolutely clear. You know, they've stopped talking about a ceasefire. 83 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: It really does look as though, and particularly with what 84 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: happened over the weekend, with that killing of what it 85 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: was about some thirty four people on their way to 86 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: Palm Sunday mass over the weekend that was killed by 87 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: Russian attack. The idea now is there is no cease 88 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: fire on the horizon. You've got to give you Cray 89 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: more than more weapons than it needs so as they 90 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: can take back the initiative. And just today we had 91 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: European Union foreign ministers talking and they are saying that 92 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: they will need this year alone around seventy eight billion 93 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: New Zealand dollars to buy a new artillery to help 94 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: Kiev hoes. 95 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 2: All right, Catherin, Nice to catch up and see you 96 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 2: next week. Catherine Field out of France this morning. For 97 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 2: more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to news Talks. 98 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 2: It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast 99 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 2: on iHeartRadio.