1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what pstre is, Steve morning to you, 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Pistre's I don't know if I said to you last 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: week or the week before, but I reckon he's one 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: better than Norris and proving to be better than Norris 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: and ultimately will be better than Norris, may well be 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: a world champion. 7 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: Certainly better than Peter Dutton. He's win anything ever the weekend. 8 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 2: Oscar's about the only thing we can hang our hat on. 9 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 2: This morning, I would say. 10 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting. Did you the size of the wind 11 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: surprise you? 12 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: Absolutely? We went into election day everybody suggesting Labor would 13 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 2: get back into some sort of government. Most of us 14 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: predicted and I think I did with you on Wednesday minority, 15 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: but they're going to have a whacking majority now. I 16 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: don't think anyone predicted what would occur, but it happens 17 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: so quickly on Saturday night, I mean, the vote was 18 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: over by a seven thirty quartered way. And he is 19 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: a stab for he that staggers everybody who is a 20 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: voter who votes for the coalition. They're going to be 21 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: left the Liberal Party and National Party coalition, probably with 22 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: only half a dozen seats in Metropolitan Australia. Now that's 23 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: just incredible. I mean, the swing to Labor wasn't huge. 24 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 2: The primary vote for Labor wasn't huge either. It all 25 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: came down to preferences, so everybody who again went out 26 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: and voted Teal and Green, their preferences flowed to Labor 27 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: and has installed Anthony Albernezi for at least another three years, 28 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: probably for another two terms. I mean, the Teales all 29 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 2: won back their seats. I was predicting they'd lose a 30 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 2: couple in Melbourne, which they didn't. And in Victoria the 31 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: vote for the Labor Party was strong, despite the fact 32 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: that the State Labor Party is so much on the nose. 33 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: I mean, Peter Dutton's gone now, so who replaces him? Well, 34 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: the talent list is not very long. You've probably got 35 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: Susan later Deputy Andrew Hasty, the former Sas Commando from Perth, 36 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: and Angus Tata the Shadow Treasure but none of them 37 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 2: really particularly inspire anyone. So the little matter of Coalition 38 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: have got a huge, huge amount of sobering thought about 39 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 2: what's going to happen next. And then we have Anthony Alberaneese. 40 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 2: He's now got another term and i'd suspect probably two more. 41 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, is it the preferencing, because it's certainly the name 42 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: Campbell Newman sprang to mind. You've seen it in Western Australia. 43 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: I've seen it in Queensland, this routing of parties at 44 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: certain times. It's not the percentage of the vote, but 45 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: it's clearly the quirk of the system that allows parties 46 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: either to win massively or get wiped out. 47 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. Correct. And one example of preferences and what it 48 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: did on this result of the weekend was the Greens. Now, 49 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 2: the Greens lost two of the three seats that they 50 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: were holding in the last parliament in Brisbane. Did they 51 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: lose those seats because people turned on the Greens. No, 52 00:02:56,120 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: not particularly, but people who voted for the Liberal National 53 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: Coalition put as their second preference the Labor Party, and 54 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 2: so the Labor Party picked up those two seats in Brisbane. 55 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I've got my fingers crossed that Adam Bands, 56 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 2: who's a lunatic who's the head of the Greens in Australia, 57 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 2: might lose Melbourne. I mean, the counting is still going 58 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: on and there's some suggestion he's in a bit of trouble. 59 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 2: That would please me. No, end to see him gone. 60 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: But the preference system is what does it here? And 61 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 2: the Labor Party they ran a better campaign. The Libs 62 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: didn't run a very good campaign. We've now got the 63 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: big issue what do we do about energy in Australia. 64 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: And as you know, we've talked about nuclear over and 65 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: over again. The public clearly enamored with the fact that 66 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: we should go nuclear, so that it's the coalition and 67 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: whoever leads it now might just simply drop that idea 68 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: of nuclear. I mean, maybe they have to. 69 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: Can we say or is it am I wrong? Can 70 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: we say that Elbow didn't win because they love them 71 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: and they love labor and they love a labor style 72 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: of the country. They simply won because they looked at 73 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: the alternative which was done and et cetera, and they 74 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: just couldn't stomach. 75 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: It one hundred percent. That's exactly what happened. He was 76 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: very hard to sell. You know, it's unfortunate you can't. 77 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 2: You've got no control over what you look like. He's 78 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 2: a bald headed guy who has had portfolios in government 79 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 2: which include national security, border protection, all of the tough 80 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 2: guy portfolios, and so people just simply didn't warm to him. 81 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: And this is the first election, and I mean, you'll 82 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 2: have to deal with this at some point. This is 83 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: the first election in this country where the baby boomers 84 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: have not been the majority of the voters. You've now 85 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 2: got millennials and gen z who are pushing and so 86 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 2: that the traditional media has less of an impact in 87 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: all of those sets. But what we left with is 88 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 2: a Labor Party that's got seats in the low eighties 89 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 2: and a coalition in the high thirties. And that's a 90 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 2: hell of a long way there. 91 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: It is there a possibility this will go to us 92 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: as here we saw this in twenty twenty through twenty 93 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: twenty three. Labor different system obviously, but they got a majority, 94 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: shouldn't have got a majority, got a majority and went 95 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: nuts and everyone hated them three years later. Does Elbow 96 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: have that potential problem. 97 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: One hundred percent yes. But the problem is the opposition 98 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 2: don't have a particularly good leader. They're going to find 99 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: someone to lead them, and that might indeed happen. I mean, 100 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: it reminds me a lot of what happened two thousand 101 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 2: and seven Kevin Rudwan John Howard lost his own seat 102 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 2: like Peter Dutton did on Saturday night. Two elections later, 103 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 2: Tony Abbott got the Coalition back to the low nineties 104 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: in terms of seats because the rug Gillard Rudd governments 105 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 2: were so chaotic that everyone said, we can't have this 106 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 2: mob running, so let's go back to the other guys. 107 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 2: And I suspect in two elections time we might say 108 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 2: the same thing. 109 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: Great stuff, mate, We'll see your Wednesday appreciated very much, 110 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: Deprice out of Australia. The opposition leader lost as seed 111 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 1: shadow ministers are hitting the same way. Labor prepared with 112 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: care and fought with discipline. The coalition plan complacently and 113 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: fought atrociously, said one scribe yesterday across the Tasman. But 114 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: it's an important to point out, and I'll come to 115 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: the British vote in just a couple of moments. That 116 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: percentages and the systems in which you run them, I like, 117 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: and as saying this is the Prime minister off there before, 118 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: I actually like. This is why MMP to me works 119 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: to a degree. You get the number of seats representing 120 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: the percentage of the vote, and you don't do that 121 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: in Britain, and you certainly don't do that in Australia, 122 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: and that seems to me anyway, at least in one 123 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: aspect of voting, are to be grossly unfair. 124 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 2: For more from the My Asking Breakfast Listen live to 125 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: News Talks at B from six am weekdays, or follow 126 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio