WEBVTT - The Resident Builder podcast: August 4, 2024

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Resonant Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp

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<v Speaker 1>from News Talks ed B fifth place.

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<v Speaker 2>That won't be enough, unfortunately for zoe Hobbs. Not in

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<v Speaker 2>the top two and two others faster than her in

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<v Speaker 2>this semi final. It was a great start from Zoey Hobbs.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll check the times, but by my eye she was fifth.

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<v Speaker 2>Zoey Hobbs, twenty shit Terry won it. Tia Clayton there

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<v Speaker 2>as well. I've got Hobbs and fifth. We'll wait for

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<v Speaker 2>official confirmation, but Tia Clayton and twenty shit Terry fastest.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll check Zoey Hobbs' time. She got away well and

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<v Speaker 2>lane three did Zoey Hobbs. She was up with the

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<v Speaker 2>leaders who were Clayton and Terry, and then through fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>meters just a grimace on her face. Darryl Natter from

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<v Speaker 2>Great Britain went past her and it may be sixth

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<v Speaker 2>even for Zoey Hobbs. Will check the time though, to

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<v Speaker 2>see if she's close to that mark of hers of

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<v Speaker 2>ten ninety six, a national record. Sixth place for Zoey

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<v Speaker 2>Hobbs in the semi final. Absolutely no disgrace there even

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<v Speaker 2>reaching the semi is quite something. Official confirmation of Zoey

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<v Speaker 2>Hobbs's time eleven one three, so quite away outside her PB.

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<v Speaker 2>She will not progress to the final unfortunately. Tea Clayton

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<v Speaker 2>ten eight nine. Daryl Nita from Great Britain got up

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<v Speaker 2>to second in ten ninety seven, so Twanisha Terry only

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<v Speaker 2>going through as one of the best next Alfred Richardson Clayton,

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<v Speaker 2>Nita Jefferson Tether you have it.

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<v Speaker 3>That was live from Paris this morning. So zoe Hobbes

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<v Speaker 3>a fantastic achievement to achieve a semi final in the

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<v Speaker 3>woman's one hundred meters and phenomenal pace, I must have.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's been discussion. We're not going to go down

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<v Speaker 3>a sports talk type thing, but I was part of

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<v Speaker 3>a fascinating discussion the other day where people were suggesting

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<v Speaker 3>that we don't for us as mere immortals. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if the last time you ran the hundred meters was

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<v Speaker 3>when you're in the school athletics program or something like that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know you should really sort of line up an

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<v Speaker 3>average sort of runner along with these people, or an

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<v Speaker 3>average swimmer or something. I was watching the ten thousand

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<v Speaker 3>meters men's final the other day extraordinary. We will bring

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<v Speaker 3>you up to date. Well, we will get a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit sidetracked by this, but that's absolutely fine. That's not

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<v Speaker 3>looking good. Tom Walsh seems to have injured himself during

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<v Speaker 3>the shot. We'll bring you more news on that. We

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<v Speaker 3>might have to go to the sports team get some updates. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call

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<v Speaker 3>if you would like to to join in and discuss all.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>I was doing a task that was slightly unfamiliar to

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<v Speaker 3>me this week, along with the occasional observation from my

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<v Speaker 3>beloved as to do you know what you're doing, to

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<v Speaker 3>which I replied, yes, it's okay. I listened to that

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<v Speaker 3>guy on Sunday morning. So I was doing the taps

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<v Speaker 3>in the bathroom, right, which have been slowly dripping and

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<v Speaker 3>got harder and harder to turn on and turn off.

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<v Speaker 3>When we renovated our place, we put the bathroom in

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<v Speaker 3>probably twenty odd years ago. It all still works. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just that the tap was getting a little bit stiff

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<v Speaker 3>to turn on and off, and it was starting to drip.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what happens with taps, right, That's why they have

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<v Speaker 3>a replaceable washer in them. Turns out that the tap

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<v Speaker 3>was slightly more complicated than I was expecting. I've pulled

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<v Speaker 3>apart a number of them over the years, partly out

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<v Speaker 3>of curiosity. This one was unlike anything else that I'd seen,

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<v Speaker 3>and when I ended up on the workbench with several

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<v Speaker 3>parts of the tap, I did start to question my

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<v Speaker 3>ability to put it back together, and started to think

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<v Speaker 3>about whether or not I could call Jerry, who's a

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<v Speaker 3>plumber who lives around the corner, to sort this out.

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<v Speaker 3>The other thing that I did realize but pushed through

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<v Speaker 3>the reluctance, was it's never a wise idea to start

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<v Speaker 3>a job at four o'clock on a Friday afternoon. So

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<v Speaker 3>this was gnawing away in the back of my mind

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<v Speaker 3>as well. But anyway, we got there in the end,

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<v Speaker 3>and in fact, I was so excited by the overall

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<v Speaker 3>performance of the now newly refurbished, cleaned up in what

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<v Speaker 3>and greased tap with its complicated mechanism, that I'm quite

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<v Speaker 3>excited to do the pot tap on Monday. So that'll

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<v Speaker 3>be my task for tomorrow, rightio, Open line talkback on

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<v Speaker 3>all things building construction. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten

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<v Speaker 3>eighty is the number to call. We can talk about

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<v Speaker 3>Actually I had a great conversation with someone. I'll talk

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<v Speaker 3>about it bit later on about ventilation.

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<v Speaker 4>I know. Actually it was really very exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>We also had the opportunity this week to tag along

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<v Speaker 3>with some guys from Apex Boots that I do some

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<v Speaker 3>work with to the Miter ten expo, so they have

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<v Speaker 3>an exhibitor's expo every year. And then I was lucky

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<v Speaker 3>enough to attend the gala dinner in Hamilton on Wednesday

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<v Speaker 3>night with the people from Mite to ten. So I

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<v Speaker 3>think it was almost one thousand people, one thousand delegates.

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<v Speaker 3>So these are the people that own the stores, These

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<v Speaker 3>are the people that supply into the stores, the support office,

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<v Speaker 3>the executive team, the cooperative and the chair and the

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<v Speaker 3>chief executive and a very swanky and very entertaining gala

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<v Speaker 3>dinner and prize giving at Claudland's Globbox on Wednesday night.

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<v Speaker 3>So my thanks to them for their hospitality. It was

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<v Speaker 3>a fantastic evening and quite an interesting insight into a

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<v Speaker 3>very very large business when it comes to New Zealand.

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<v Speaker 3>So revenue two point two billion dollars goes through Minor

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<v Speaker 3>ten stores. It's remarkable and a tremendous bunch of people,

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<v Speaker 3>to be fair, So thanks very much for your company

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<v Speaker 3>or for letting me join you on at might a

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<v Speaker 3>Tens gala on Wednesday night.

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<v Speaker 4>Rightio, let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 3>If you've got a progrem project that.

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<v Speaker 4>Is well, like mine, a little bit a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Uncertain as to what the outcome is going to be

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<v Speaker 3>and you want to talk about it, or you've got

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<v Speaker 3>a project that you're thinking about, or you've got a

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<v Speaker 3>project that's just turned into an absolute disaster that you

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<v Speaker 3>want to ask questions about and issues around contractors.

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<v Speaker 4>I've sort of replied to a couple.

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<v Speaker 3>Of emails this week where people have struggled with the

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<v Speaker 3>quality of the contractors that they've engaged and what do

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<v Speaker 3>you do about that? Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty

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<v Speaker 3>is the number to call. We will keep one eye

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<v Speaker 3>on the Olympics as well. I have to say, not

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<v Speaker 3>looking particularly good for Tom Walsh. Looked like he was

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<v Speaker 3>in a great deal of pain after his last throw.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll try and bring you more information on that

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<v Speaker 3>peat Wolf camp here at Newstalks there'd beat lines are open.

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<v Speaker 3>The number eight hundred eighty ten eighty. You can tell

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<v Speaker 3>that's nine two nine two was ABZB from your mobile phone.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you'd like to email me, it's Pete at

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<v Speaker 3>newstalksb dot Co dot Nz. But the lines are free

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<v Speaker 3>right now. We always get busy later in the show,

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<v Speaker 3>so now it's a great time to call. Eight hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and eighty ten eighty you a news talks heb Pete

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<v Speaker 3>wolf Camp with you open line on all things building construction.

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<v Speaker 3>A very good morning to you, Paul.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, good morning to morning.

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<v Speaker 6>I needed a staw bench and I went down to

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<v Speaker 6>mine at ten and got one and brought it at

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<v Speaker 6>home and all this is a good looking staw bench

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<v Speaker 6>for two hundred ninety nine and black in deca right,

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<v Speaker 6>And I put the guard on it and it flew

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<v Speaker 6>off when I started at that, so I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 6>must have done that wrong, So I put it on

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<v Speaker 6>again and checked it as the book said, I put

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<v Speaker 6>it on correctly, put another bit of timber stirt and

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<v Speaker 6>it flew off again. So I took it back to

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<v Speaker 6>my out of ten and they said, oh, there's nothing

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<v Speaker 6>wrong with that, all right, and you have a look

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<v Speaker 6>at it, and I'll come back in the next day.

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<v Speaker 6>And the next day you had a bit of Timber

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<v Speaker 6>City by thirty and about a foot foot or too wrong.

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<v Speaker 6>And he cuts through that his note words perfectly, and

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<v Speaker 6>I says, no, it doesn't And I just ripped just

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<v Speaker 6>by putting my hand. Well it was twitched off, of course.

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<v Speaker 6>I just pushed my hand up and off came the guard.

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<v Speaker 6>And I says that there's two faults of this. The

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<v Speaker 6>on off switch is covered by a flat. Now a

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<v Speaker 6>child will look at and see them stairdy working on it,

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<v Speaker 6>would look up that flat, press the go button and

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<v Speaker 6>allays that spinny thing and then put their hands to

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<v Speaker 6>it and they would lose their hands.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but that's really about how you control your workspace,

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<v Speaker 3>to be fair, And I'll tell you a story about that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's a very bad sword to have a home,

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<v Speaker 6>you know. And so they don't think it's faulty. So

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<v Speaker 6>I rang up the Commerce Commission and then got onto ITOUN.

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<v Speaker 6>So there may be a recall of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, look, I'm to be fair. I'm not actually interested

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<v Speaker 3>in slinging off tools, right. I understand where you're coming from.

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<v Speaker 3>And obviously safety is phenomenally important when it comes to

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<v Speaker 3>two power tools. Yeah, I guess too. There's there's a

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, how much research did you do in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of selecting a table saw, and like, what sorts of

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<v Speaker 3>tasks will you do with your table saw?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, with the table saw, I've got to build a

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<v Speaker 6>new book. Thinks cup tops cut things up? And as yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I only found out of about eight there, I only

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<v Speaker 6>found one that had a steel guard that would not

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<v Speaker 6>move right would move, and I thought, this is not right.

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<v Speaker 6>And even the one that had the good guard only

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<v Speaker 6>had a flip cover on the on off switch. And

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<v Speaker 6>little kids are very excited around tools and very interested

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<v Speaker 6>in things, especially a little.

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<v Speaker 4>More I know.

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<v Speaker 3>But again, and look, I've got a young son, and

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<v Speaker 3>I've got a table saw, and I can remember a

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<v Speaker 3>time years ago when I was working in the shed

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<v Speaker 3>and I had the table saw set up, thankfully, with

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<v Speaker 3>the blade down and all the rest of it, and

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<v Speaker 3>my little eye wandered and was looking around and curious

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<v Speaker 3>and so on, and he flicked a switch on the

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<v Speaker 3>table saw and it started. Now he was standing reasonably

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<v Speaker 3>way back and all the rest of it. So I

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<v Speaker 3>know exactly what you mean. It's scared the living daylights

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<v Speaker 3>out of him. And to be fair, it's scared the

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<v Speaker 3>living daylights out of me too. But you know, in

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<v Speaker 3>the end, if you're going to let children into a workspace,

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<v Speaker 3>that's your responsibility, not the tool owners.

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<v Speaker 6>Well he's at home, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's right. But ultimately it's your responsibility, not the taller.

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<v Speaker 3>So what are you going to do? Wait for the

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<v Speaker 3>com com to tell you.

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<v Speaker 4>What to do?

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<v Speaker 6>What I did is I rang up the Commerce Commission

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<v Speaker 6>and they're looking into it. They say they could be

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<v Speaker 6>a product recall.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well look, and you know, if the guard's not

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to come off and it does, then that's obviously

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<v Speaker 3>not accepted and.

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<v Speaker 6>The other switch should be protected. Well ahead was a

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<v Speaker 6>flat that went over? That's all here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but that's enough, isn't it. I mean, what else would.

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<v Speaker 4>You want to do?

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<v Speaker 6>No, that's not enough because kids look up there.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, kids shouldn't be in the workshop if they're not supervised.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean it could be or could be in the

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<v Speaker 6>workshop if either.

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<v Speaker 3>One either way either way A flap over this that,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the way that I would look at it

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<v Speaker 3>is And I'm just trying to think. My sword doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>even have a flap over the guard right over the

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<v Speaker 3>on off switch. The on off switch is simply a toggle.

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<v Speaker 3>You lift it up to start it and you press

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<v Speaker 3>it down to turn it off. Right, So it's easy

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<v Speaker 3>to turn off. And that's that that prevents you exit

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<v Speaker 3>because you have to lift the trigger on up. It

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<v Speaker 3>stops you inadvertently bumping it. Yep, right, So I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's safe enough. I don't think you need a cover

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<v Speaker 3>with a switch underneath it. I mean I've got another

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<v Speaker 3>some other power tools.

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<v Speaker 6>It needs to have the cover that you can lock switch.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, then I disagree with you.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, all right, then I'll agree with you.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll like to leave that on off switch available to suppress.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, no, I'm saying to you that ultimately, responsibility in

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<v Speaker 3>workshops is up to the owner, right and to your

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<v Speaker 3>person responsible. So having a lockable switch on power tools

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<v Speaker 3>is not required it it is the manufacturers.

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<v Speaker 6>The manufacturers should not have let it get through the testing.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's one hundred percent disagree with you.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, okay mate, we'll just leave it there.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, much appreciate it. Thanks for the call

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<v Speaker 3>much and you take care. There is a thing called

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<v Speaker 3>personal responsibility. That's where I'm coming from. Sows and power

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<v Speaker 3>tools need to be safe, but they are also power

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<v Speaker 3>tools designed for use, and they don't need to have

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<v Speaker 3>lockable covers on them in my opinion, Oh, eight hundred

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<v Speaker 3>eighty ten eighty is the number to call Joe.

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<v Speaker 5>Good morning, Good morning, Peter.

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<v Speaker 8>We're in the process of building a garage and we've

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<v Speaker 8>got our firewall. Is a block wall, and it's filled

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<v Speaker 8>with concrete. Yes, we had a big grain for about

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<v Speaker 8>three or four days here and some of the water

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<v Speaker 8>has seeped through. So we just need to know what

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<v Speaker 8>product do we use to see all the X year

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<v Speaker 8>the outside of it to prevent the water coming through.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really curious because over the years I would have

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<v Speaker 3>had tens, if not hundreds of questions very much like yours,

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<v Speaker 3>but typically they're about, you know, a nineteen seventies block

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<v Speaker 3>wall or something like that. So a new block wall

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<v Speaker 3>that's solid filled as ' grouted and it's sitting I

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<v Speaker 3>presume on a concrete slab yep. And the concrete slab

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<v Speaker 3>is not in the ground as a retaining wall, or

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<v Speaker 3>the wall's not a retaining wall as such. No, is

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<v Speaker 3>the building finished and it's leaking.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, we're just about there, yep.

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<v Speaker 3>So all the down pipes, flashing, spouting, everything.

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<v Speaker 4>Is right, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I am quite curious as to where that leak might

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<v Speaker 3>be coming from, because it would require a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>water to force its way through what is effectively one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and ninety mili block that's then grouted if it's

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<v Speaker 3>solid filled. Right, So, potentially do the block sit on

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<v Speaker 3>top of the concrete slab or do the blocks extend

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<v Speaker 3>from the foundations up and the slab is cast into

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<v Speaker 3>the side of.

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<v Speaker 9>It if you record out of it, on top of it.

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<v Speaker 4>They sit on top of right? And where are you

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<v Speaker 4>seeing the water?

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<v Speaker 8>Most of the water was down the bottom.

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<v Speaker 3>Down the bottom at that junction between the slab.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, and there was a little, just a little, a

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<v Speaker 8>couple of little pitches sort of midway up.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And the block wall is it only one wall and

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<v Speaker 3>then the other walls are timber framed that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Or is the whole garage block wall?

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<v Speaker 8>No, just the one, just the one wall.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, look, I think you should be talking to

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<v Speaker 3>the builder and go, hey, look what's the plan here.

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<v Speaker 3>The other thing is obviously this work. If it's a

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<v Speaker 3>block wall and it's required for fire rating, the work

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<v Speaker 3>will have a building consent be interesting to have a

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<v Speaker 3>look on the building consent to see what is required

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<v Speaker 3>on the exterior typically for and I've seen unpainted masonry

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<v Speaker 3>walls not lead in water for decades, right, So I

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<v Speaker 3>am genuinely a little bit surprised. But I would say, look,

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<v Speaker 3>have a talk to the builder, Talk to them about

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<v Speaker 3>what flashings might still need to go on, where the

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<v Speaker 3>spouting has to go on, down pipes have to go on,

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<v Speaker 3>that sort of thing. That might actually solve the problem.

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<v Speaker 3>But the other thing is just in general, what you

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<v Speaker 3>can do is seal the masonry wall, So seal the

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<v Speaker 3>blocks on the exterior with preferably a pigmented sealer so

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<v Speaker 3>something like shore Seal right from razine, and then paint

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<v Speaker 3>it with X two hundred, which is essentially a waterproofing

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<v Speaker 3>paint right designed specifically for masonry surfaces, so you can

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<v Speaker 3>use it on plaster, you can use it on blocks,

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<v Speaker 3>et cetera. And that will give you a waterproof membrane

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<v Speaker 3>on the exterior of there, and that will seal up

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<v Speaker 3>any minor pores and bits and pieces where water might

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<v Speaker 3>be coming through. But I would still have a serious

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<v Speaker 3>discussion with the builder about what flashings need to be

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<v Speaker 3>done where the drainage goes. And I presume the ground

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<v Speaker 3>level on the outside of the block will isn't going

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<v Speaker 3>to be elevated. It's not like there's a requirement to

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<v Speaker 3>do waterproofing there or anything like that. Okay, Yeah, have

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<v Speaker 3>a look on the consent too, because it may well

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<v Speaker 3>specify that the wall needs to be painted, and it

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<v Speaker 3>might specify a particular product.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, alrighty, okay, let us know how you get on. Alrighty,

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<v Speaker 4>take care.

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<v Speaker 3>Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

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<v Speaker 3>Eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine to two ninety two

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<v Speaker 3>on the text. A couple of interesting texts coming through

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<v Speaker 3>with regard to our first call it to be fair

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<v Speaker 3>I eight hundred eighty ten eighty. We'll take a short

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<v Speaker 3>break back with Dean in a moment. If you'd like

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<v Speaker 3>to join us. The lines are open. Some fascinating texts

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<v Speaker 3>coming in off the back of Paul's comments, not so

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<v Speaker 3>much necessarily about the particular choice of tool and all

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<v Speaker 3>the rest of it, just around attitudes to safety and look,

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<v Speaker 3>we all work at home, right. If you're listening to

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<v Speaker 3>the show, chances are you've you've done some work. You

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<v Speaker 3>might have used a ladder, or you've had a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of sawhorses with a plank on it, or you've had

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<v Speaker 3>a sander that you've used to strip back some timber,

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<v Speaker 3>or in some case you might have a power tool,

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<v Speaker 3>a drill or a driver, or a multi tool, or

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<v Speaker 3>a jigsaw, or a receip saw or a chainsaw, or

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<v Speaker 3>a weed eater or a motor motor motama. Sorry, you

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<v Speaker 3>know all of these items, right. If we're this whole

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<v Speaker 3>show is about doing it yourself, right, So if you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to do it yourself, you're probably gonna mean it.

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<v Speaker 3>I was sharpening chisels on Friday, right, chisels are well

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<v Speaker 3>sharp now because I sharpened them. You know all of

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<v Speaker 3>these things, And I have to say in my own head,

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<v Speaker 3>I often have to consciously remind myself when I'm using

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<v Speaker 3>a table saw or saw bench. I've got to remember

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<v Speaker 3>that this thing wants to take my bits off, right,

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<v Speaker 3>It wants to take my finger off if I get

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<v Speaker 3>too close to that blade. And I know guys who

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<v Speaker 3>have lost either whole fingers, parts of fingers, parts of

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<v Speaker 3>thumbs and that sort of thing. You know, you do

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<v Speaker 3>you have to keep that presence of mind to go

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<v Speaker 3>that blade. If it's cutting that piece of timber that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm watching go through the blade, then it's not going

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<v Speaker 3>to have a problem with one of my digits. But

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<v Speaker 3>that's about your own presence of mind, your own awareness

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<v Speaker 3>of the situation, and your own control around health and

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<v Speaker 3>safety and proper practices around power tools, all of which

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<v Speaker 3>will hurt you if you.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't use them.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

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<v Speaker 3>to call Dean. Good morning, Good Dane.

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<v Speaker 7>Morning Pete.

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<v Speaker 10>Yep, sorry, mate, just said the microphone in the wrong place. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 10>couldn't agree. Couldn't agree more. Our tools are dangerous, inherently dangerous.

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<v Speaker 3>Look like, I was looking at some gear the other day,

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<v Speaker 3>and I've got some stuff which has real, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>additional safety features that are really useful. So a grinder

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<v Speaker 3>that I use, for example, has a mechanism and it's

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<v Speaker 3>beyond me to explain it. That means that when you

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<v Speaker 3>overtalk it.

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<v Speaker 4>It will stop. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you're cutting, let's say, with a grinder, and

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<v Speaker 3>you're pressing too hard, you've twisted the blade and you're

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<v Speaker 3>putting too much pressure onto the cutting, it will trip out. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>that's useful because typically the next stage after that is

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<v Speaker 3>it will kick back right, and that's dangerous. And I

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<v Speaker 3>was looking at some gear the other day where they

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<v Speaker 3>had that feature into a drill and again the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a small fracture on my left wrist where

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<v Speaker 3>the drill I was using when I was drilling through

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<v Speaker 3>a steel bean bit and the drill just dragged my

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<v Speaker 3>arm around and cracked it into the steel to the

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<v Speaker 3>edge of an ee bean and hey, presto, there's a

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<v Speaker 3>small little fracture there. Us kind of wondering why it

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<v Speaker 3>hurts so much. But anyway, so you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's great that there are additional safety features

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<v Speaker 3>in power tools, but ultimately, if it's your workspace, you're

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<v Speaker 3>responsible for who's there and their competency and your own,

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<v Speaker 3>is my opinion. Yeah, anyway, that's not probably what we were

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<v Speaker 3>going to talk about, Deane.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell me what's.

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<v Speaker 10>So We're getting a house very extensively re roosted and hated, right,

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<v Speaker 10>and it's a house, and so well, the scaffolds. It's

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<v Speaker 10>been suggested that I should replace the gathering.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, sounds sensible.

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<v Speaker 10>It's yeah, the gathering's okay, it doesn't really need to

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<v Speaker 10>be replaced, but you know it probably will sometime the

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<v Speaker 10>next ten years or so. Sure, So my question is basically,

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<v Speaker 10>how much does it cost to head flash windows? And

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<v Speaker 10>how much does it cost to put gathering on in

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<v Speaker 10>your experience? Okay, so the scaffolding is already up, so

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<v Speaker 10>you know that cost has already been absorbed. Yes, we're

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<v Speaker 10>so nothing additional there. So we have sixteen head flashings,

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<v Speaker 10>some of which are very definitely marginal. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 10>house is one hundred years old, so okay, time with you, yep, yep.

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<v Speaker 10>So basically we have sixteen of these things that could

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<v Speaker 10>be replaced. What does it cost to replace a head

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<v Speaker 10>flashing on a window? As a ballpark figure?

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<v Speaker 3>A couple of questions for exterior clading is a weatherboard

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<v Speaker 3>and a traditional style weatherboard or a rusticided board?

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<v Speaker 10>No, just traditional, okay, all right?

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<v Speaker 3>And so the head flashing sits over the top of

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<v Speaker 3>the facings. There's probably a little like a headboard that's

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<v Speaker 3>slightly sloped and timber, and then the flashing itself sits

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<v Speaker 3>over that and then tucks up to the underneath the

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<v Speaker 3>board above, so it's not recessed into the timber.

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<v Speaker 10>No, it's not recessed or it is the old style

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<v Speaker 10>pete I imagined. You know, you've got your window projecting

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<v Speaker 10>out to right, You've got a weather ball behind it,

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<v Speaker 10>and there's a flashing that sits on it weather board

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<v Speaker 10>and folds over the window, and it's it. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 10>it might it might lodge into the weather board above

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<v Speaker 10>the weather board above the window. Yeah, yeah, yep.

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<v Speaker 4>Basically yeah, Okay.

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<v Speaker 10>What could you expect to pay peer flashing to take

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<v Speaker 10>the old one off? You know, you know, you cramp

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<v Speaker 10>a new one presumably, and then put the new one on.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm just thinking about that. Like, let's say

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<v Speaker 3>you've well one, chances are the flesh won't be standard, right,

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<v Speaker 3>so you have to go to site measure probably each

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<v Speaker 3>window and get them folded up. So that's going to

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<v Speaker 3>cost you, you know, a couple of hours of work,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the flashings, the freshings probably will cost you

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<v Speaker 3>over a thousand bucks for the oh maybe not that much.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's say it's five hundred bucks for the flashings themselves.

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<v Speaker 10>It's not basically a big long window.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, by the time you send it off

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<v Speaker 3>to someone, they've got to cut them all. They've got

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<v Speaker 3>to fold them. You've got to get the angle right

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<v Speaker 3>and all the rest of it. So if you get that,

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<v Speaker 3>but right then when you arrive back on site with

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<v Speaker 3>all of your flashings number one through sixteen, you've got

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<v Speaker 3>to pull the old one off. You've got to pry

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<v Speaker 3>open the gap between the lower and the upper weatherboard.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got to take the old one out. You've got

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<v Speaker 3>to fold the ends round, so there's a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of funky sort of cutting and folding that you need

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<v Speaker 3>to do because they're all bespoke, and then slide it

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<v Speaker 3>up and put a couple of pins through the side.

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<v Speaker 7>Look.

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<v Speaker 4>To be fair, I would probably.

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<v Speaker 3>Allow an hour per window to move a flashing, making

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<v Speaker 3>new one and put one in.

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<v Speaker 4>I could probably do.

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<v Speaker 3>It a little bit faster than that, but I think

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<v Speaker 3>if I was quoting, i'd probably allow close to an

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<v Speaker 3>hour per window, so it'd be a two day job.

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<v Speaker 3>Chippies at sixty bucks an hour, you know you're talking

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<v Speaker 3>twelve to fourteen hundred dollars plus the materials could be

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<v Speaker 3>almost a two thousand dollars exercise. And I know I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to get a bunch of texts in a minute.

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<v Speaker 10>Agoousand dollars we're talking sixteen flashings here. Yeah, so you're

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<v Speaker 10>saying about one thousand dollars to flashing, were you?

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<v Speaker 11>No?

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, I was thinking to buy the flashings,

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<v Speaker 3>to buy all of them, I think it'd be I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's probably more like five hundred bucks right to

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<v Speaker 3>go and get them made by someone and have them.

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<v Speaker 4>Do they need to be stainless? Well, now to comply.

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<v Speaker 10>All sixteen one thousand dollars in total?

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<v Speaker 3>No, five hundred. Let's make it five hundred for sixteen, right.

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<v Speaker 10>Five hundred for sixteen or so, Yeah, somewhere between a

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<v Speaker 10>five hundred.

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<v Speaker 3>And then let's allow two days work for a carpenter,

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<v Speaker 3>so at sixty bucks an hour or something like that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it'll be a fifteen hundred and sixteen hundred dollars exercise,

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<v Speaker 3>I would think, and spouting interestingly enough, I heard an

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<v Speaker 3>ad actually running on this station the other day that

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<v Speaker 3>for its continuous group doing starting at twenty six dollars

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<v Speaker 3>a linear meter.

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<v Speaker 10>Now, yes, which raises my second question, So how much

0:25:32.975 --> 0:25:35.055
<v Speaker 10>do you think it would cost to put in thirty

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<v Speaker 10>three meters of gathering? There's nothing special about the gathering,

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<v Speaker 10>and they are talking about having brackets every four hundred mili.

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<v Speaker 4>Good.

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<v Speaker 10>There's about nine outlets yep, and end caps and clips

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<v Speaker 10>and stuff. So thirty three meters skateboarding is already up,

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<v Speaker 10>so no extra costs for that.

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<v Speaker 4>Twenty three members.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, thirty three meters is actually not that much,

0:25:58.655 --> 0:26:01.935
<v Speaker 3>to be fair, but if there's you know, droppers are

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<v Speaker 3>more expensive than a straight run. You've got to do

0:26:04.055 --> 0:26:08.055
<v Speaker 3>end caps and that sort of thing. I mean, I've

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<v Speaker 3>done some numbers. I've come up with sixteen hundred bucks,

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<v Speaker 3>but let's call it two.

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<v Speaker 10>Grand two grand?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, so where have you ended up with?

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<v Speaker 10>Quotes?

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<v Speaker 3>And for good reason you can understand why I'm reluctant

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<v Speaker 3>to sort of discuss numbers, because it's different areas and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to comment on anyone else's.

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<v Speaker 10>Work, particularly special. Right, So thirty three meters five thousand,

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<v Speaker 10>one hundred and twenty plus.

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<v Speaker 4>Gsc sorry how much? Five thousand, five.

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<v Speaker 10>One hundred and twenty and I just couldn't get my

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<v Speaker 10>head around it. So I did some pricing for one.

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<v Speaker 3>Hundred and fifty five dollars a linear meter.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah cool, wait, friky.

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<v Speaker 4>Krakey yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>So I thought, well, gosh, there must be a lot

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<v Speaker 10>more guttering than I thought, so I asked how much,

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<v Speaker 10>how many meters and he consumed, there's thirty three meters

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<v Speaker 10>of guttering nine outdates. We need to replace all the

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<v Speaker 10>end kept and clips. To replace the external bends on

0:27:09.175 --> 0:27:11.975
<v Speaker 10>the bottom level, we'll be using stainless or screws, very

0:27:12.015 --> 0:27:15.015
<v Speaker 10>gutter brackets, so they'll be putting brackets in every four hundred.

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<v Speaker 4>Milk basically, yeah, but screws are not Unit wasn't talking.

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<v Speaker 10>About this though, peak, which I thought a bit surprising.

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<v Speaker 10>The gathering code also includes installing timber in between the

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<v Speaker 10>current timber fixings. Now that I don't quite understand. Yes,

0:27:28.575 --> 0:27:32.815
<v Speaker 10>because basically all but one chunk there is one bit

0:27:32.935 --> 0:27:35.735
<v Speaker 10>there where the gathering is basically sitting on nothing. So

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<v Speaker 10>they need to put another board and take the existing

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<v Speaker 10>gathering off put a board in, But that's about two

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<v Speaker 10>three meters worth of you know. The rest of them

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<v Speaker 10>they just attached to the body. We call them faces,

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<v Speaker 10>I guess, like normal gathering.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so yeah, okay, Well, I mean maybe you could

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<v Speaker 3>tag that out and say that's a five hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 3>cost or something like that to do that extra.

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<v Speaker 10>But I just don't see where this coat comes from.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm sorry, it just doesn't make any sense. Can you

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<v Speaker 10>just can you just remind me what you said you

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<v Speaker 10>think the gathering should go? Well, no, I thirty three meters.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm listening to z B during the day, and

0:28:09.935 --> 0:28:12.815
<v Speaker 3>I know that there's a company they're advertising and they're saying, hey,

0:28:12.815 --> 0:28:16.695
<v Speaker 3>look spouting starting from twenty nine dollars a meter. I

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<v Speaker 3>put in fifty dollars a meter, and I came up

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<v Speaker 3>with a sort of a sixty sixteen hundred dollars fee.

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<v Speaker 10>Right, So they're fifty dollars for meter that you're talking about, Pete.

0:28:26.055 --> 0:28:29.295
<v Speaker 10>That is basically to get the materials, get you know,

0:28:29.335 --> 0:28:31.455
<v Speaker 10>and the bits and in caps and screws and go

0:28:31.775 --> 0:28:34.055
<v Speaker 10>and blah blah blah. It's the fifty dollars a meter

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<v Speaker 10>and that's installed.

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<v Speaker 7>You reckon?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, typically yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So.

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<v Speaker 3>Look the beauty of it is and this is the

0:28:41.935 --> 0:28:44.935
<v Speaker 3>beauty of capitalism. You get more than one quote, right,

0:28:45.055 --> 0:28:47.335
<v Speaker 3>And so you invited people.

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<v Speaker 10>People doing the rufic, so in for those heads snatings, Pete,

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<v Speaker 10>what do you reckon?

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<v Speaker 12>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I again, you know, I don't know the circumstances,

0:28:56.255 --> 0:28:59.135
<v Speaker 3>don't know how complicated, but you know. I know, having

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<v Speaker 3>done especially on villas. I know having done a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of work on villas, they can be time consuming. So

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<v Speaker 3>if I if I was looking at it myself, i'd

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<v Speaker 3>allow myself an hour per window, right, so it'd be

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<v Speaker 3>a two day job. And then I so at sixty

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<v Speaker 3>bucks an hour, you can figure that out and then say, well, look,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to go and get a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>flashings made up and we're going to put five hundred

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<v Speaker 3>dollar fee on that. That's roughly where you are. It'd

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<v Speaker 3>be interesting if someone does text and go I'm either

0:29:24.455 --> 0:29:28.055
<v Speaker 3>too high or too low, but look, great thing is

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<v Speaker 3>hopefully ask around, get a couple of extra quotes, and

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<v Speaker 3>then go from there.

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<v Speaker 4>Let us know how you get on.

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<v Speaker 10>Take care.

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<v Speaker 4>My pleasure.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice to talk to you, Bob, your news talks. It'd

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<v Speaker 3>be if you've got a question of a building nature

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<v Speaker 3>and it's it's broad right. It can be around product selection,

0:29:43.895 --> 0:29:46.095
<v Speaker 3>it can be around tool use. John, I'm more than

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<v Speaker 3>happy to talk about, you know, selecting the right tool

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<v Speaker 3>for the job. And yeah, I'm really keen to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about safety as well. I think these figures are a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit out of date, but I know from some reading.

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<v Speaker 3>I did maybe a year or two ago, ACC pay

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<v Speaker 3>out about seventy six million dollars and compensation or funding

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<v Speaker 3>for people that have injuries at home as a result

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<v Speaker 3>of falling from ladders. The total amount that they would

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<v Speaker 3>pay out on sort of home injuries, let's say, caused

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<v Speaker 3>by power tools actually on my list as well to

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<v Speaker 3>reach out and go. It'd be really fascinating to know

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<v Speaker 3>what that number would be. And I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>make light of people having injuries, but I also don't

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<v Speaker 3>want people to feel that somehow the power tool is

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<v Speaker 3>responsible for the injury, not the operator. Most of the

0:30:41.775 --> 0:30:44.175
<v Speaker 3>time it's the operator. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten

0:30:44.215 --> 0:30:46.335
<v Speaker 3>eighty is the number to call. It is six forty

0:30:46.375 --> 0:30:50.335
<v Speaker 3>seven here at news Talk said quick text with regard

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<v Speaker 3>to the conversation with Dean was that including or excluding scaffolding.

0:30:53.975 --> 0:30:55.975
<v Speaker 3>That was the whole point of the part of the

0:30:56.095 --> 0:30:58.455
<v Speaker 3>story was that the scaffolding was already up because they

0:30:58.455 --> 0:31:00.975
<v Speaker 3>were doing roof for replacements. And I mean scaffolding's are

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<v Speaker 3>significant costs. So yeah, just purely for the materials in labor.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello and good morning, Oh, good morning.

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<v Speaker 13>I have a seventy year old house or remu I'm

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<v Speaker 13>getting two double doors put in. They are what you

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<v Speaker 13>have in front of the mosque, So each one is

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<v Speaker 13>four point five kg that carved so and they are

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<v Speaker 13>higher than the existing doorway. I'm replacing it, taking the

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<v Speaker 13>old doorway out and putting the ornamental things in as

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<v Speaker 13>an ornament.

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<v Speaker 6>But they will also be a door.

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<v Speaker 5>They will.

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<v Speaker 14>But when they join together.

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<v Speaker 13>There has so the top above the door has to.

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<v Speaker 9>Be heightened by about two fifty and they have to

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<v Speaker 9>be made wide. But there's room for that. What sort

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<v Speaker 9>of a cost should they be?

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I'm really reluctant to get into the whole. Can

0:31:56.455 --> 0:31:58.855
<v Speaker 3>you quote a job for me without seeing it? The

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<v Speaker 3>other thing that I would point out to you in

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<v Speaker 3>is that that what you're describing there, The fact that

0:32:06.455 --> 0:32:10.975
<v Speaker 3>you want to widen the opening also triggers a requirement

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<v Speaker 3>for a building consent.

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<v Speaker 5>In an internal door.

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<v Speaker 3>Internal door Okay, no, probably not, but if it's a

0:32:23.215 --> 0:32:27.095
<v Speaker 3>load bearing wall, then you will definitely need to have

0:32:28.055 --> 0:32:32.335
<v Speaker 3>some specific engineering or design done. So the lintel will

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<v Speaker 3>need to be sized to take the load above.

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<v Speaker 4>And look hanging old.

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<v Speaker 3>Doors that are slightly twisted and all the rest of it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, either way, it's still.

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<v Speaker 4>Quite a lot of work.

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<v Speaker 3>So look, there is no point in me offering up

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<v Speaker 3>a price because I'm not doing the work right. So

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<v Speaker 3>the best bet is to find a contractor that's recommended

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<v Speaker 3>to you, someone who's got some skills.

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<v Speaker 7>I know, the builder is very good.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, eighty bucks.

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<v Speaker 3>An now, yep, that's that's where Chippy's are sitting at

0:33:07.415 --> 0:33:10.775
<v Speaker 3>the moment. To be fair, labor rates are coming back,

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<v Speaker 3>but that will depend on where you are in the

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<v Speaker 3>country and what type of work. And you know, what

0:33:16.135 --> 0:33:19.855
<v Speaker 3>you're asking them to do is it's not outside of

0:33:19.895 --> 0:33:22.775
<v Speaker 3>what most people would be able to do every day,

0:33:22.895 --> 0:33:25.655
<v Speaker 3>but it will require a set of skills that's probably

0:33:25.815 --> 0:33:28.255
<v Speaker 3>to be fair beyond some people. So I think the

0:33:28.255 --> 0:33:30.215
<v Speaker 3>best bet is to get a you know what the

0:33:30.215 --> 0:33:32.055
<v Speaker 3>hourly rate is. They should be able to tell you.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's going to take me two days, three days,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, something like that. Shouldn't really be much more

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<v Speaker 3>than that, and then if you're happy with the price,

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<v Speaker 3>go ahead, and if you're not, then find another price. So,

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<v Speaker 3>like I said, not really wanting to engage in lots

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<v Speaker 3>of discussion around how much do you think it should cost?

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<v Speaker 3>Just get an extra price. Good luck to you in Liz.

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<v Speaker 5>Hello there, Hello, how are you today?

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<v Speaker 9>Good?

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you?

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<v Speaker 15>It's it.

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<v Speaker 9>I decided to get a new garage door installed because

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<v Speaker 9>the other one was old and apparently the other and

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<v Speaker 9>has had trouble with the garage door on trying to

0:34:10.455 --> 0:34:14.735
<v Speaker 9>open it with a remote. Yes, anyway, installed this lovely

0:34:14.855 --> 0:34:18.375
<v Speaker 9>new garage door, and the garage door just seems to

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<v Speaker 9>like to open whenever it feels like right.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, if it's a new door, then there will be

0:34:25.975 --> 0:34:29.655
<v Speaker 3>warranties and guarantees around the door. So it's just a

0:34:29.695 --> 0:34:32.455
<v Speaker 3>case of going back to the supplier or to the

0:34:32.455 --> 0:34:37.775
<v Speaker 3>installer and explaining that to them it just simply shouldn't happen.

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<v Speaker 9>So it's some installed for new motors already. Then I

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<v Speaker 9>had to get a Sparky in to check, putting a

0:34:49.215 --> 0:34:54.255
<v Speaker 9>new plug up the top yep and then the Sparky

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<v Speaker 9>in check, which was fantastic or my worrying to see

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<v Speaker 9>what there was no faults in my warrant and it's

0:34:59.135 --> 0:34:59.855
<v Speaker 9>still opening.

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<v Speaker 3>I tell you what, I wonder whether it's worth getting

0:35:04.655 --> 0:35:07.055
<v Speaker 3>next time someone comes out to check it, getting a

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<v Speaker 3>new remote and programming it again because it is quite

0:35:11.855 --> 0:35:16.415
<v Speaker 3>possible that someone nearby has a very similar remote and

0:35:16.455 --> 0:35:19.615
<v Speaker 3>when they open their door, your door opens as well.

0:35:19.815 --> 0:35:22.535
<v Speaker 3>That you'd want to that that can happen, right.

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<v Speaker 9>We've gone through that Scenarioka and his program Offsite offside.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow and its look ultimately, you know you, I know

0:35:36.455 --> 0:35:40.655
<v Speaker 3>it's it can become disheartening to constantly be ringing the contractor,

0:35:40.695 --> 0:35:43.975
<v Speaker 3>but that's not how doors a garage doors are supposed

0:35:44.015 --> 0:35:47.015
<v Speaker 3>to work. So it's completely the responsibility of the contractor

0:35:47.495 --> 0:35:50.095
<v Speaker 3>to keep fixing it at no cost to you.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, well, well I have to pay for the sparky.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's that's okay, that's an upgrade. But in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of actually getting the door to stay closed until you

0:35:59.975 --> 0:36:03.015
<v Speaker 3>want it to open, is what they need to do

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<v Speaker 3>for you.

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<v Speaker 15>And and.

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<v Speaker 4>I can imagine the frustration.

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<v Speaker 9>But you've just got the insecurity of having a door.

0:36:15.895 --> 0:36:18.095
<v Speaker 9>Like I was watching the Olympics the other n I

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<v Speaker 9>went to bed at one thot and the garage door

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<v Speaker 9>wide open.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know enough about them to make a comment

0:36:29.615 --> 0:36:34.055
<v Speaker 3>around that, but you know, please persist with phoning them,

0:36:34.535 --> 0:36:38.255
<v Speaker 3>and you know, if you're not getting the right reply,

0:36:39.135 --> 0:36:42.975
<v Speaker 3>then you can seek redress through like the commuce commissioners

0:36:43.095 --> 0:36:45.735
<v Speaker 3>or just remind them of their responsibilities under the Consumer

0:36:45.815 --> 0:36:48.655
<v Speaker 3>Guarantees Act. That tends to get people operating a little

0:36:48.695 --> 0:36:49.055
<v Speaker 3>bit better.

0:36:49.615 --> 0:36:51.095
<v Speaker 4>So good luck with that.

0:36:53.015 --> 0:36:57.735
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's not easy, all right, you take care? See then, crikey.

0:36:58.855 --> 0:37:00.935
<v Speaker 3>That would be quite disconcerting, wouldn't it if you wake

0:37:01.015 --> 0:37:02.855
<v Speaker 3>up in the morning and find that garage doors open

0:37:02.975 --> 0:37:04.255
<v Speaker 3>and it's just opened randomly.

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<v Speaker 15>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>I like this song.

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<v Speaker 3>You and New Stalks at b We're into the second

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<v Speaker 3>hour of the show. Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the.

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<v Speaker 3>Number to call if you've got a building question or

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<v Speaker 3>a building related question. And we did, interestingly have a

0:37:24.255 --> 0:37:27.455
<v Speaker 3>bit of a conversation around safety, and I guess it's

0:37:27.495 --> 0:37:33.215
<v Speaker 3>around sort of responsibility that I'm very aware that many

0:37:33.255 --> 0:37:36.175
<v Speaker 3>of us will do work at home, and while we're

0:37:36.175 --> 0:37:38.175
<v Speaker 3>doing it, we'll have tools, and some of them will

0:37:38.175 --> 0:37:40.975
<v Speaker 3>be power tools, some will be hand tools. Generally, most

0:37:41.015 --> 0:37:43.775
<v Speaker 3>tools are sharp, and most tools can hurt you. If

0:37:43.815 --> 0:37:46.575
<v Speaker 3>you've ever hit your thumb with a hammer, it hurts.

0:37:47.375 --> 0:37:49.695
<v Speaker 3>If you've ever cut yourself with a saw, it hurts.

0:37:50.415 --> 0:37:53.415
<v Speaker 3>If you've ever slipped off a ladder, it hurts. So

0:37:54.015 --> 0:37:56.695
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of discussion around safety and machinery was good,

0:37:57.135 --> 0:37:59.535
<v Speaker 3>and just before the break we were talking with Liz

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<v Speaker 3>who mentioned a garage door, a replacement garage door that

0:38:04.055 --> 0:38:09.855
<v Speaker 3>seems to have a mind of its own and what

0:38:10.215 --> 0:38:12.775
<v Speaker 3>might be causing that, And ultimately it does come down

0:38:12.775 --> 0:38:16.615
<v Speaker 3>to the contractor being coming back and sorting out a

0:38:16.655 --> 0:38:18.695
<v Speaker 3>couple of texts on that we turn our door off

0:38:18.735 --> 0:38:21.055
<v Speaker 3>at night with a long pole for that reason security.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems to be how the door relates to the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>If it runs a bit on it can decide to

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<v Speaker 3>go back up. Yeah, but I know that that's what

0:38:28.695 --> 0:38:30.735
<v Speaker 3>happens when you're tuning the door, right, So if it

0:38:30.775 --> 0:38:33.455
<v Speaker 3>comes down, it sort of does a bounce thing and

0:38:33.495 --> 0:38:36.895
<v Speaker 3>you have to reset the travel on the door to

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<v Speaker 3>ensure that it doesn't think that it's hit something and

0:38:39.975 --> 0:38:44.415
<v Speaker 3>comes back up. But typically that happens when you're either

0:38:45.015 --> 0:38:47.895
<v Speaker 3>when you're closing the door, it bounces back up. But

0:38:48.215 --> 0:38:50.775
<v Speaker 3>for it to randomly open at one o'clock in the morning,

0:38:51.895 --> 0:39:01.055
<v Speaker 3>that's a slightly different question regarding yeah, someone else has

0:39:01.095 --> 0:39:04.415
<v Speaker 3>ticked through, just with regard to doors being inadvertently opened

0:39:04.695 --> 0:39:06.375
<v Speaker 3>by other remote.

0:39:06.055 --> 0:39:08.135
<v Speaker 4>Controlls in the area. So you have to look at that.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll take some calls on all things building and building

0:39:12.295 --> 0:39:15.175
<v Speaker 3>related here at Newstalk z B. It is coming up

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<v Speaker 3>to ten minutes eight minutes after seven.

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<v Speaker 4>A very good morning, Oh good morning.

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<v Speaker 16>I just heard the lady for the news, and my

0:39:25.735 --> 0:39:28.815
<v Speaker 16>comments mirror the ones you've just read out from text.

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<v Speaker 16>Which was my first reaction was we'll turn the thing

0:39:31.535 --> 0:39:35.775
<v Speaker 16>off at the PowerPoint at night time, which we do.

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<v Speaker 16>If you know we're going to be away for a

0:39:37.415 --> 0:39:40.175
<v Speaker 16>period of prime on holiday, you just turn the switch

0:39:40.215 --> 0:39:44.455
<v Speaker 16>so that they can't it can't go up to it.

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<v Speaker 16>So it won't solve a problem, but in the meantime

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<v Speaker 16>for it to feel secure. If she has a post

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<v Speaker 16>or broomstick or something and just switch pushes the switch

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<v Speaker 16>off at least when she's finished for the day, she

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<v Speaker 16>knows it won't open. Yes, she turns it back on

0:39:59.935 --> 0:40:05.015
<v Speaker 16>again the same. We do the same the door. If

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<v Speaker 16>the wind comes from a certain direction that makes the

0:40:07.615 --> 0:40:11.295
<v Speaker 16>door rattle. So if that case, I go out and

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<v Speaker 16>lift up the wire as there's an older door, but

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<v Speaker 16>the wire thing and hook it up over it.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, you hook it off the hook.

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<v Speaker 16>Unhook it off the hook, so the locks actually lock

0:40:21.855 --> 0:40:24.295
<v Speaker 16>on either side of it at the bottom so that

0:40:24.295 --> 0:40:26.335
<v Speaker 16>that stops the wind from rattling. And then when the

0:40:26.375 --> 0:40:29.215
<v Speaker 16>storm's over, I go back and I put the wire

0:40:29.295 --> 0:40:33.735
<v Speaker 16>back over the hook and it's back into automatic mode.

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<v Speaker 16>So's it's just, yeah, it won't solve her problem, but

0:40:38.055 --> 0:40:40.975
<v Speaker 16>it might help her peace of mind if you well until.

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<v Speaker 3>The problem was solved. That's probably not a bad step

0:40:43.215 --> 0:40:44.975
<v Speaker 3>to take. It if you worried that you're going to

0:40:45.015 --> 0:40:47.055
<v Speaker 3>wake up in the morning and find the garage door open,

0:40:47.455 --> 0:40:49.775
<v Speaker 3>then at nighttime when you close it, turn the switch

0:40:49.815 --> 0:40:51.055
<v Speaker 3>off and it'll stay closed.

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<v Speaker 16>And there is that tiny uncertainty with those doors. I

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<v Speaker 16>was driving home at two thirty one night past the

0:40:58.335 --> 0:41:01.895
<v Speaker 16>neighbor's place and saw their door wide open and thought,

0:41:02.175 --> 0:41:05.335
<v Speaker 16>oh no, it's got all sorts of stuff in there,

0:41:05.375 --> 0:41:08.695
<v Speaker 16>and cleansing his hunting rifles. I'll go and wake him

0:41:08.775 --> 0:41:11.495
<v Speaker 16>up at two thirty in the morning, hopefully he won't mind.

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<v Speaker 16>And he said, oh shit, thank.

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<v Speaker 7>You so much.

0:41:14.935 --> 0:41:17.655
<v Speaker 16>Yes, it's got my hunting rifles in there, I think.

0:41:18.095 --> 0:41:20.055
<v Speaker 3>Hopefully be in a safe and all the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 16>But yeah, they were all his antlers and his head,

0:41:23.495 --> 0:41:26.855
<v Speaker 16>oh crack, all his meat in the freezer and things

0:41:26.895 --> 0:41:28.735
<v Speaker 16>like that, and I'm going, well, I think you'll prefer

0:41:28.815 --> 0:41:31.335
<v Speaker 16>me waking you up and then finding out in the

0:41:31.415 --> 0:41:37.095
<v Speaker 16>morning that's coming. Yeah, but he thought he'd shut it

0:41:37.175 --> 0:41:39.535
<v Speaker 16>from the house, that he pressed the button as he

0:41:39.575 --> 0:41:41.975
<v Speaker 16>went into the house and didn't look back. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 16>of course it hadn't shut.

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<v Speaker 14>Brilliant in that case.

0:41:44.615 --> 0:41:46.015
<v Speaker 16>So you've got to you've got to check.

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<v Speaker 3>Appreciate the call, lovely to chat all the best, Thank

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<v Speaker 3>you very much. Quick text on the lady with the

0:41:52.495 --> 0:41:54.855
<v Speaker 3>garage door issue. Take the batteries out of all of

0:41:54.895 --> 0:41:57.255
<v Speaker 3>the remotes and see if that stops it happening. Then

0:41:57.295 --> 0:41:59.535
<v Speaker 3>it may show that if it's in the motor brain

0:41:59.775 --> 0:42:03.295
<v Speaker 3>or in the remote controls. Very good suggestion, Roger, Good

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<v Speaker 3>morning to you.

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<v Speaker 15>How are you, Peter. I haven't talked to you for

0:42:06.375 --> 0:42:06.815
<v Speaker 15>a while.

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<v Speaker 4>Nice to hear from you. You will.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah. About machinery and it's safety and I work for

0:42:15.415 --> 0:42:19.255
<v Speaker 15>Ray Golfinch for eight years working on machinery all day

0:42:19.295 --> 0:42:23.615
<v Speaker 15>and every day, yep, And there was no There was

0:42:23.655 --> 0:42:26.735
<v Speaker 15>no safety cover for the switches. There was no The

0:42:26.775 --> 0:42:28.815
<v Speaker 15>on off switch was simple and it was easy to

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<v Speaker 15>get at if you needed to turn it off anytime.

0:42:32.135 --> 0:42:35.775
<v Speaker 15>So therefore, really the guy is talking rubbish, and nobody

0:42:35.815 --> 0:42:40.775
<v Speaker 15>would sell you a machine with a flap over the

0:42:40.815 --> 0:42:44.095
<v Speaker 15>switch that stops you from turning it off as well

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<v Speaker 15>as on.

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<v Speaker 3>H Actually, I'm thinking like I got no, I've got

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<v Speaker 3>that arrangement on a dust extractor that I have in

0:42:53.935 --> 0:42:58.295
<v Speaker 3>my workshop in the garage, right. So there is a

0:42:58.615 --> 0:43:02.575
<v Speaker 3>flap that you have to release and lift up in

0:43:02.695 --> 0:43:07.455
<v Speaker 3>order to turn the dust extractor on. And then when

0:43:07.535 --> 0:43:10.335
<v Speaker 3>you put the flat back down, it has a red

0:43:10.335 --> 0:43:12.695
<v Speaker 3>button on the top, which means that if you need

0:43:12.735 --> 0:43:14.935
<v Speaker 3>to turn it off quickly, you can just hit that

0:43:15.095 --> 0:43:18.655
<v Speaker 3>so you can turn it off without doing any intervention.

0:43:18.775 --> 0:43:21.135
<v Speaker 3>But you can only turn it on with a two

0:43:21.175 --> 0:43:24.975
<v Speaker 3>step process, which is modern.

0:43:25.135 --> 0:43:26.095
<v Speaker 15>That's a bit that's modern.

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty good situation. The table saw that I currently have

0:43:32.295 --> 0:43:36.415
<v Speaker 3>has essentially a toggle, so to turn it on you

0:43:36.535 --> 0:43:38.975
<v Speaker 3>have to lift it up, as in just you know,

0:43:39.535 --> 0:43:41.695
<v Speaker 3>leave it up right. It's it's not a it's just

0:43:41.735 --> 0:43:43.975
<v Speaker 3>a one step thing. You just put your fingers undereath it,

0:43:44.015 --> 0:43:45.975
<v Speaker 3>flick it up. But it also means that if you

0:43:46.015 --> 0:43:48.575
<v Speaker 3>need to turn it off quickly, it's simply a downward

0:43:48.695 --> 0:43:50.255
<v Speaker 3>motion and it's off what.

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<v Speaker 15>I'm trying to say. That's what I'm trying to say. Yeah,

0:43:54.695 --> 0:43:58.575
<v Speaker 15>his his if he's buying machinery for a workshop at

0:43:58.575 --> 0:44:01.655
<v Speaker 15>home where the kids are around, he should take the

0:44:01.695 --> 0:44:04.495
<v Speaker 15>pair supply away from each of the machines when he's

0:44:04.535 --> 0:44:05.215
<v Speaker 15>not using it.

0:44:05.575 --> 0:44:08.655
<v Speaker 4>And that it's a really simple safety precaution right.

0:44:08.935 --> 0:44:10.335
<v Speaker 15>Well in it's common sense.

0:44:10.455 --> 0:44:12.655
<v Speaker 3>And look, you know, over the years, I'm sure most

0:44:12.735 --> 0:44:16.575
<v Speaker 3>of us have used power tools inside the house, possibly

0:44:16.655 --> 0:44:18.895
<v Speaker 3>when other people are around, and that sort of thing.

0:44:18.975 --> 0:44:22.015
<v Speaker 3>So you're right if you're not standing by, you know,

0:44:22.095 --> 0:44:24.495
<v Speaker 3>like a circular saw for example, back in the day

0:44:24.495 --> 0:44:29.015
<v Speaker 3>that we had, you know, used more corded tools than

0:44:29.055 --> 0:44:30.415
<v Speaker 3>cordless ones for example.

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<v Speaker 15>Of course that's negated there isn't it.

0:44:33.655 --> 0:44:34.415
<v Speaker 4>Right, Well, it has.

0:44:34.495 --> 0:44:39.255
<v Speaker 3>But interestingly enough, like all of the cutting tools that

0:44:39.375 --> 0:44:43.095
<v Speaker 3>I have, I would you know, in terms of circular saw,

0:44:43.175 --> 0:44:47.255
<v Speaker 3>recep saw, jigsaw and those sorts of things all have

0:44:47.855 --> 0:44:50.735
<v Speaker 3>it's not just to pull the trigger, right, they all

0:44:50.815 --> 0:44:54.975
<v Speaker 3>have an additional either a toggle or a lever or

0:44:54.975 --> 0:44:57.095
<v Speaker 3>something like that that you have to depress before you

0:44:57.095 --> 0:44:57.895
<v Speaker 3>can pull the trigger.

0:44:58.295 --> 0:45:02.455
<v Speaker 15>So the circular not to mention all those modern tools,

0:45:02.495 --> 0:45:05.095
<v Speaker 15>now you pull the batrio and that stops everything doesn't.

0:45:05.335 --> 0:45:07.615
<v Speaker 3>And that's absolutely true as well. But you know, so

0:45:07.775 --> 0:45:10.895
<v Speaker 3>there is more inbuilt safety, but which I think is

0:45:10.935 --> 0:45:13.295
<v Speaker 3>good because it does mean that, you know, for something

0:45:13.335 --> 0:45:17.295
<v Speaker 3>like a circular sort, for example, if that's left unattended

0:45:17.295 --> 0:45:19.535
<v Speaker 3>for a moment and somebody does wander and think, oh,

0:45:19.575 --> 0:45:23.175
<v Speaker 3>I wonder what happens when I grab the trigger, that's

0:45:23.375 --> 0:45:26.975
<v Speaker 3>it prevents someone from doing that. But ultimately, my attitude

0:45:27.015 --> 0:45:29.695
<v Speaker 3>has always been, you know, if it's my gear, then

0:45:29.815 --> 0:45:33.815
<v Speaker 3>I'm responsible for the environment and I'll make sure that

0:45:33.855 --> 0:45:37.535
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't stay on or that I'm supervising it correctly.

0:45:38.295 --> 0:45:41.895
<v Speaker 15>Yeah. I had machinery around the place all my fifty

0:45:41.975 --> 0:45:44.855
<v Speaker 15>years of building and never never had any problem. Still

0:45:44.855 --> 0:45:48.015
<v Speaker 15>got all my own fingers, and I did a lot

0:45:48.055 --> 0:45:50.655
<v Speaker 15>of work for Gregolf, a lot of machinery work for

0:45:50.695 --> 0:45:53.535
<v Speaker 15>Rey golfinch right, a lot of it, to be fair.

0:45:53.775 --> 0:45:58.055
<v Speaker 3>I do know that name, yeah.

0:45:57.135 --> 0:46:00.895
<v Speaker 15>Grason Avenue, Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's got two

0:46:00.895 --> 0:46:02.335
<v Speaker 15>boys that would be your age.

0:46:03.175 --> 0:46:05.535
<v Speaker 3>He might be right because my dad's factory was down

0:46:05.575 --> 0:46:10.495
<v Speaker 3>there as well. Yeah, Grace Avenue. I drove by there

0:46:10.535 --> 0:46:14.095
<v Speaker 3>the other day. Actually it's changed a bit, but well,

0:46:14.135 --> 0:46:16.255
<v Speaker 3>In fact, when when Dad had the factory there, Grace

0:46:16.335 --> 0:46:18.415
<v Speaker 3>Nevenue didn't go all the way through, It stopped at

0:46:18.455 --> 0:46:20.975
<v Speaker 3>a kind of where duff at Doors was and that

0:46:21.055 --> 0:46:21.495
<v Speaker 3>sort of thing.

0:46:21.655 --> 0:46:24.815
<v Speaker 15>And that's where you their concrete outfit too.

0:46:25.055 --> 0:46:28.495
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's right at the end, brilliant. Hey, lovely to

0:46:28.495 --> 0:46:30.535
<v Speaker 3>talk to you, Roger, better move On's nice to talk

0:46:30.535 --> 0:46:33.895
<v Speaker 3>to you by by then. So the reason that we

0:46:33.895 --> 0:46:36.415
<v Speaker 3>were a couple of old codges reminiscing is that my dad,

0:46:36.455 --> 0:46:39.095
<v Speaker 3>when he was in business, had a factory. We made metal.

0:46:39.295 --> 0:46:44.135
<v Speaker 3>Dad made metal furniture and anchors in a small factory

0:46:44.175 --> 0:46:48.415
<v Speaker 3>that he established in Grace Avenue, and Worry Papa Toy

0:46:49.335 --> 0:46:53.135
<v Speaker 3>and obviously Roger Goldfinchers were down there as well. Duffer

0:46:53.335 --> 0:46:56.895
<v Speaker 3>he was actually was a polystyrene manufacturing factory across the

0:46:57.015 --> 0:46:59.815
<v Speaker 3>road that burnt down one night. That was kind of

0:46:59.855 --> 0:47:03.055
<v Speaker 3>scary but kind of exciting as well. And a couple

0:47:03.055 --> 0:47:05.535
<v Speaker 3>of other businesses that I still remember from back in

0:47:05.535 --> 0:47:08.335
<v Speaker 3>the day. One hundred and eighty eighty is that number

0:47:08.375 --> 0:47:10.575
<v Speaker 3>to call Grant A very good morning to you, sir.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Hyde, just some ideas with the door, sure, okay,

0:47:14.855 --> 0:47:18.455
<v Speaker 5>so the old doors have the old star remotes just

0:47:18.495 --> 0:47:20.895
<v Speaker 5>with you a little battery in it, but they are

0:47:20.975 --> 0:47:25.535
<v Speaker 5>they are prone to being opened by people that might

0:47:25.575 --> 0:47:30.575
<v Speaker 5>have scanners unfortunately or something else. Some of the new

0:47:31.175 --> 0:47:37.415
<v Speaker 5>doors have Wi Fi opening. Ah, so that's quite good.

0:47:37.655 --> 0:47:38.855
<v Speaker 5>That's much much better.

0:47:40.255 --> 0:47:42.215
<v Speaker 3>This is a new door, by the way, so it's

0:47:42.255 --> 0:47:45.375
<v Speaker 3>a replacement door that's been installed and now they've got

0:47:45.455 --> 0:47:48.055
<v Speaker 3>this issue where it's intermittent.

0:47:49.415 --> 0:47:52.335
<v Speaker 5>So here's a remedy for those people that have the

0:47:52.335 --> 0:47:55.815
<v Speaker 5>old remote but might be having this problem of the

0:47:55.855 --> 0:47:59.055
<v Speaker 5>door it's on the opening or finding it open. It

0:47:59.095 --> 0:48:01.415
<v Speaker 5>may have been just you know, like for instance, there's

0:48:02.255 --> 0:48:07.055
<v Speaker 5>it was a scenario of certain vehicles run at certain

0:48:07.095 --> 0:48:10.415
<v Speaker 5>frequencies going past the street and doors kind of opening.

0:48:11.015 --> 0:48:14.735
<v Speaker 5>You might have heard about that before. Well, anyway, we'll

0:48:15.095 --> 0:48:18.335
<v Speaker 5>forget about that. But for that lady, she's just got

0:48:18.375 --> 0:48:23.375
<v Speaker 5>a old style remote. But if she, if she has

0:48:23.415 --> 0:48:29.855
<v Speaker 5>a smartphone and maybe WiFi, has put a little Wi

0:48:29.895 --> 0:48:35.455
<v Speaker 5>Fi plug between on on that circuit that she can

0:48:35.535 --> 0:48:40.695
<v Speaker 5>turn on as she drives up. She can pack up

0:48:40.935 --> 0:48:44.455
<v Speaker 5>for thirty seconds, use a smartphone to use it to

0:48:44.495 --> 0:48:48.055
<v Speaker 5>turn the Wi Fi plug on which powers the powers

0:48:48.095 --> 0:48:51.455
<v Speaker 5>the door, and then she can use her remote and

0:48:51.495 --> 0:48:56.215
<v Speaker 5>then and then when she's left left the building, she

0:48:56.215 --> 0:48:58.295
<v Speaker 5>can turn the Wi Fi plug off and she knows

0:48:58.335 --> 0:49:04.655
<v Speaker 5>that the the door is who's not being powered she's away. Okay,

0:49:05.095 --> 0:49:08.255
<v Speaker 5>Wi Fi plug, you'd flail all for about twenty bucks

0:49:08.655 --> 0:49:12.535
<v Speaker 5>and then just and then just program it with your

0:49:13.655 --> 0:49:17.735
<v Speaker 5>your Wi Fi Internet and your your that goes with

0:49:17.775 --> 0:49:18.615
<v Speaker 5>the Wi Fi plug.

0:49:19.615 --> 0:49:22.015
<v Speaker 3>Would that mean that it would override the remote?

0:49:22.055 --> 0:49:22.135
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:49:22.215 --> 0:49:24.375
<v Speaker 3>Could she have both systems operating?

0:49:25.215 --> 0:49:28.495
<v Speaker 5>The Wi Fi plug is? All it's doing is turning

0:49:28.495 --> 0:49:32.375
<v Speaker 5>on the power to the door, right, So the first

0:49:32.415 --> 0:49:34.815
<v Speaker 5>thing you do is you just drive up to the door,

0:49:35.415 --> 0:49:38.615
<v Speaker 5>go to your smartphone and the Wi Fi plug on

0:49:39.575 --> 0:49:43.015
<v Speaker 5>the door, then hit the remote and up comes the door.

0:49:42.975 --> 0:49:45.215
<v Speaker 3>And you can do that Wi Fi plug just in

0:49:45.255 --> 0:49:48.335
<v Speaker 3>that individual plug. It's not like a smart wiring with

0:49:48.495 --> 0:49:49.215
<v Speaker 3>throughout the house.

0:49:49.615 --> 0:49:53.735
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, there's quite a few. There's for instance, just

0:49:55.455 --> 0:50:00.975
<v Speaker 5>for when I know quite close by that that that

0:50:01.095 --> 0:50:06.855
<v Speaker 5>door is, how just off a conventional plug that's in

0:50:06.895 --> 0:50:10.695
<v Speaker 5>the garage way and you just put it, plug it in,

0:50:11.015 --> 0:50:14.935
<v Speaker 5>plug it into the wall socket and then plug the

0:50:14.975 --> 0:50:19.175
<v Speaker 5>cord from the from the door into the brilliant into

0:50:19.175 --> 0:50:20.015
<v Speaker 5>the Wi Fi plug.

0:50:20.135 --> 0:50:21.295
<v Speaker 4>Well, I appreciate that ground.

0:50:21.495 --> 0:50:23.935
<v Speaker 3>That's awesome, much appreciate it. You have a great day

0:50:24.175 --> 0:50:27.495
<v Speaker 3>actually talking about power this week, there's a place that

0:50:27.535 --> 0:50:30.615
<v Speaker 3>I look after, and there was there's been some infrastructure

0:50:30.655 --> 0:50:35.255
<v Speaker 3>upgrade work happening in the street, including a notice that hey, look,

0:50:35.255 --> 0:50:37.775
<v Speaker 3>the power is going to be off while we underground

0:50:38.535 --> 0:50:41.375
<v Speaker 3>power to a certain number of houses, including the one

0:50:41.375 --> 0:50:45.495
<v Speaker 3>that I look after, and so there's been correspondent. So

0:50:45.455 --> 0:50:47.415
<v Speaker 3>over the last couple of weeks there's been activity in

0:50:47.455 --> 0:50:50.495
<v Speaker 3>the street. There's been excavations and there's been you know,

0:50:50.655 --> 0:50:54.295
<v Speaker 3>patching of pavement and excavation of pavement and installation of pits.

0:50:54.655 --> 0:50:58.455
<v Speaker 3>And then was it Tuesday they came along and livened

0:50:58.535 --> 0:51:01.415
<v Speaker 3>up the new underground supply to the house, which also

0:51:01.575 --> 0:51:07.335
<v Speaker 3>means new cable into the meter board outside. Then electrical

0:51:07.335 --> 0:51:11.415
<v Speaker 3>inspectors have to come through and test the connection so

0:51:11.575 --> 0:51:16.255
<v Speaker 3>independently of the contractor and then confirm that that's safe

0:51:16.295 --> 0:51:18.055
<v Speaker 3>and then the power could go back on and the

0:51:18.095 --> 0:51:22.815
<v Speaker 3>guys are up, you know, unclipping overheadlines and all phenomenal

0:51:22.855 --> 0:51:25.495
<v Speaker 3>to watch. It's quite more actually, and they did an

0:51:25.495 --> 0:51:28.215
<v Speaker 3>awesome job, which is great. Oh eight hundred eighty ten

0:51:28.295 --> 0:51:31.295
<v Speaker 3>eighty we'll talk someone text through before can I talk

0:51:31.335 --> 0:51:32.255
<v Speaker 3>to you about power tools?

0:51:32.575 --> 0:51:35.215
<v Speaker 4>Mate? We can talk about power tools all day long.

0:51:35.375 --> 0:51:35.935
<v Speaker 4>Give us a call.

0:51:36.015 --> 0:51:40.735
<v Speaker 3>I eight hundred eighty ten eighty when New Talk said

0:51:40.775 --> 0:51:44.735
<v Speaker 3>B and we're I've unplugged myself.

0:51:46.775 --> 0:51:47.375
<v Speaker 4>Don't worry.

0:51:47.815 --> 0:51:51.055
<v Speaker 3>I'm not as incompetent with tools in the house. I

0:51:51.175 --> 0:51:53.535
<v Speaker 3>eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

0:51:53.655 --> 0:51:55.015
<v Speaker 3>Matt A very good morning.

0:51:55.975 --> 0:51:57.535
<v Speaker 4>Oh, good morning morning mate?

0:51:57.655 --> 0:52:01.375
<v Speaker 11>You do yeah, yeah, very good, look like chext through

0:52:02.095 --> 0:52:07.255
<v Speaker 11>saying can we hear the talk about tools as some advice.

0:52:07.655 --> 0:52:10.335
<v Speaker 11>I've just borrowing a table sawer from my father in law,

0:52:11.215 --> 0:52:13.975
<v Speaker 11>an older one, and I'm quite keen to buy one,

0:52:14.015 --> 0:52:15.855
<v Speaker 11>but he's such a variety out there.

0:52:16.255 --> 0:52:19.335
<v Speaker 14>Yes, and I'm not very good at.

0:52:19.175 --> 0:52:22.015
<v Speaker 11>Buying just rubbish tools. I'm a bit of a kida person.

0:52:22.215 --> 0:52:27.175
<v Speaker 11>I've got some old Tashi Jop saws and I'd like

0:52:27.215 --> 0:52:29.655
<v Speaker 11>to stay within one of those brands. But I mean,

0:52:29.655 --> 0:52:33.695
<v Speaker 11>there's so much variety in the cost. You know, just

0:52:33.695 --> 0:52:35.935
<v Speaker 11>a bit of advice about you know what you should

0:52:35.935 --> 0:52:36.375
<v Speaker 11>be looking at?

0:52:36.415 --> 0:52:39.855
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, sure, and look.

0:52:39.695 --> 0:52:44.215
<v Speaker 3>It is a it's a tricky one in that You're right,

0:52:44.295 --> 0:52:47.615
<v Speaker 3>there is a lot of variety and there's a there's

0:52:47.735 --> 0:52:51.535
<v Speaker 3>variety in terms of quality, and it's it's it's often

0:52:51.735 --> 0:52:55.495
<v Speaker 3>about like we know that there are like you can

0:52:55.535 --> 0:52:57.655
<v Speaker 3>buy a cordless drell for one hundred and twenty bucks, right,

0:52:58.095 --> 0:53:00.335
<v Speaker 3>and you can buy a cordless drill for five hundred

0:53:00.335 --> 0:53:06.095
<v Speaker 3>bucks and both of them ultimately drill holes. Right, But

0:53:07.415 --> 0:53:10.135
<v Speaker 3>the difference is often around run time.

0:53:10.375 --> 0:53:10.615
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:53:10.935 --> 0:53:14.455
<v Speaker 3>It's about you as a user, how much time are

0:53:14.495 --> 0:53:16.735
<v Speaker 3>you going to be using it and sort of what

0:53:16.815 --> 0:53:20.215
<v Speaker 3>performance do you need from it. If you're working around

0:53:20.215 --> 0:53:23.215
<v Speaker 3>the home and you use it intermittently, then chances are

0:53:23.215 --> 0:53:28.855
<v Speaker 3>one hundred and twenty dollars cordless drill, for example, will

0:53:28.895 --> 0:53:31.775
<v Speaker 3>do what you need it to do ninety five percent

0:53:31.815 --> 0:53:35.215
<v Speaker 3>of the time. Now, if you're a commercial operator and you're,

0:53:35.295 --> 0:53:37.815
<v Speaker 3>for example, screwing roofing down or something like that, and

0:53:37.855 --> 0:53:40.495
<v Speaker 3>you're doing that all day long, then you're going to

0:53:40.535 --> 0:53:43.095
<v Speaker 3>need to choose something from the other end of the range.

0:53:44.095 --> 0:53:46.815
<v Speaker 3>Table saws. I guess if I was choosing one and

0:53:46.815 --> 0:53:48.655
<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking about the one that I've got at home

0:53:48.735 --> 0:53:52.255
<v Speaker 3>without revealing what that particular brand might be. One of

0:53:52.255 --> 0:53:54.455
<v Speaker 3>the things that I'm often really critical about some of

0:53:54.495 --> 0:53:57.455
<v Speaker 3>the table saws is they only clamp at one side.

0:53:57.535 --> 0:54:01.175
<v Speaker 3>So the ripping guide right the fence I think should

0:54:01.175 --> 0:54:03.695
<v Speaker 3>be able to be clamped or should clamp and locate

0:54:03.775 --> 0:54:07.615
<v Speaker 3>at both ends of the guide, because that holds it

0:54:07.735 --> 0:54:10.015
<v Speaker 3>a lot more secure than just being at one end

0:54:10.015 --> 0:54:12.175
<v Speaker 3>of the guide. So that would be part of my

0:54:12.255 --> 0:54:15.335
<v Speaker 3>criteria there. The other thing is, I guess I know

0:54:15.495 --> 0:54:18.495
<v Speaker 3>power tools are expensive, particularly if you buy them brand new.

0:54:19.455 --> 0:54:22.335
<v Speaker 3>Over the years, I've actually bought a reasonable amount of

0:54:22.415 --> 0:54:27.495
<v Speaker 3>gear secondhand, and sometimes that can be quite I mean,

0:54:28.175 --> 0:54:29.935
<v Speaker 3>sometimes you can end up with rubbish, so you've got

0:54:29.975 --> 0:54:33.495
<v Speaker 3>to be a bit careful. I absolutely loathe with a

0:54:33.575 --> 0:54:37.095
<v Speaker 3>passion people that steal power tools and then sell them.

0:54:37.295 --> 0:54:39.775
<v Speaker 3>So I think you've got to be super cautious around

0:54:40.255 --> 0:54:43.735
<v Speaker 3>buying from some one who you think might have stolen

0:54:43.815 --> 0:54:47.415
<v Speaker 3>or come into possession of stolen goods. So you've got

0:54:47.455 --> 0:54:48.575
<v Speaker 3>to be a bit careful around that.

0:54:50.295 --> 0:54:50.735
<v Speaker 4>Seriously.

0:54:50.775 --> 0:54:51.295
<v Speaker 15>I love.

0:54:53.055 --> 0:54:57.775
<v Speaker 11>A real market for that type of stolen tols, and

0:54:57.815 --> 0:55:01.175
<v Speaker 11>you know, very hard to people don't record these serial

0:55:01.255 --> 0:55:02.775
<v Speaker 11>numbers and all that sort of you know, you sort

0:55:02.775 --> 0:55:03.535
<v Speaker 11>of going off track of.

0:55:03.535 --> 0:55:06.095
<v Speaker 3>That, no, but look on that though, like a thing

0:55:06.095 --> 0:55:09.095
<v Speaker 3>that I have been part of and I would encourage

0:55:09.095 --> 0:55:11.695
<v Speaker 3>as the police through some of their community policing thing,

0:55:12.215 --> 0:55:17.535
<v Speaker 3>we'll do programs with they'll they'll engrave or get tradees

0:55:17.535 --> 0:55:21.175
<v Speaker 3>to engrave their driver's license number onto their power tools.

0:55:21.175 --> 0:55:24.935
<v Speaker 3>And I've done exactly the same with mine, so you know,

0:55:25.055 --> 0:55:27.495
<v Speaker 3>all of my gear has got my driver's license on it,

0:55:27.775 --> 0:55:30.695
<v Speaker 3>because you know, I might paint my tools green and go,

0:55:30.735 --> 0:55:32.775
<v Speaker 3>oh that's great, now I know which are mine. But

0:55:32.855 --> 0:55:35.535
<v Speaker 3>if the police, you know, kick the door down on

0:55:35.575 --> 0:55:38.295
<v Speaker 3>a meth house right and find there's a room full

0:55:38.295 --> 0:55:41.295
<v Speaker 3>of power tools, and this is exactly what happens, and

0:55:41.335 --> 0:55:44.655
<v Speaker 3>then hey, look, you know I've painted mine green or I've.

0:55:44.495 --> 0:55:47.135
<v Speaker 4>Put p W on it. Well, who the hell's p W?

0:55:47.535 --> 0:55:47.735
<v Speaker 4>You know?

0:55:47.935 --> 0:55:50.575
<v Speaker 3>I mean, Whereas if you've got the driver's license, even

0:55:50.615 --> 0:55:52.935
<v Speaker 3>if it's not your, you know, like let's say I've

0:55:52.935 --> 0:55:55.895
<v Speaker 3>sold it to you, right, but at least if it

0:55:55.935 --> 0:55:58.615
<v Speaker 3>gets pinched from you, then they'll contact me and I'll go, oh,

0:55:58.615 --> 0:56:00.335
<v Speaker 3>that's right. I sold it to Matt a couple of

0:56:00.415 --> 0:56:03.335
<v Speaker 3>years ago, you know, and it's legitimate, So I think

0:56:03.335 --> 0:56:05.975
<v Speaker 3>that's great. But it look in terms of selecting the

0:56:05.975 --> 0:56:08.375
<v Speaker 3>power I think you've got to look at obviously you've

0:56:08.375 --> 0:56:09.975
<v Speaker 3>got to look at price, you've got to look at

0:56:09.975 --> 0:56:14.055
<v Speaker 3>some of the basic features that the tool will have.

0:56:15.775 --> 0:56:18.415
<v Speaker 3>And you know, again you might end up spending not

0:56:18.535 --> 0:56:21.055
<v Speaker 3>that much on a table sort for example, but it does,

0:56:21.535 --> 0:56:23.775
<v Speaker 3>you know, like I think it's really important. The guide

0:56:23.815 --> 0:56:27.175
<v Speaker 3>gets clamped at both ends. And then sometimes what happens

0:56:27.215 --> 0:56:30.335
<v Speaker 3>with more budget tools is they come with not particularly

0:56:30.335 --> 0:56:33.455
<v Speaker 3>good quality blades. So often swapping the blade out and

0:56:33.495 --> 0:56:36.175
<v Speaker 3>getting a really good blade into it can actually make

0:56:36.215 --> 0:56:37.975
<v Speaker 3>the difference. But all you know, but you've got to

0:56:37.975 --> 0:56:41.175
<v Speaker 3>be realistic too, And I get frustrated with people that go, oh, look,

0:56:41.415 --> 0:56:43.015
<v Speaker 3>I bought this table saw and it cost me four

0:56:43.055 --> 0:56:45.375
<v Speaker 3>hundred bucks and I was trying to rip down, you know,

0:56:45.535 --> 0:56:50.695
<v Speaker 3>forty meters of hardwood and it's darnell. You know, seriously, mate,

0:56:50.695 --> 0:56:53.215
<v Speaker 3>that's that's not what you should be doing with that tool.

0:56:55.295 --> 0:56:57.775
<v Speaker 11>Do you do you have anything to say? You know,

0:56:57.895 --> 0:57:00.815
<v Speaker 11>sort of right, the wattage one of the themes I'm

0:57:00.815 --> 0:57:05.095
<v Speaker 11>looking at. It's been a thousand odd dollars. Yeah, it's

0:57:05.135 --> 0:57:08.655
<v Speaker 11>good quality, comes with the built in stein, it's got

0:57:09.135 --> 0:57:12.775
<v Speaker 11>an arbor, so you put data or data blade into it.

0:57:14.175 --> 0:57:16.615
<v Speaker 11>Rack and pinion. But it's only fifteen hundred.

0:57:16.615 --> 0:57:19.335
<v Speaker 4>What I think fifteen hundred will would do?

0:57:19.415 --> 0:57:19.615
<v Speaker 7>You?

0:57:21.335 --> 0:57:25.135
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think so, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

0:57:25.175 --> 0:57:28.255
<v Speaker 11>Oh and I agree around what you said about Second

0:57:28.295 --> 0:57:31.375
<v Speaker 11>End at tools of just can I speak to that brand?

0:57:31.575 --> 0:57:33.335
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't mind you you can.

0:57:34.855 --> 0:57:39.295
<v Speaker 11>So, yeah, good Second End HTASHI older model C or

0:57:39.175 --> 0:57:47.535
<v Speaker 11>seating FSB condition, A good solid saw, really well looked after.

0:57:48.695 --> 0:57:50.495
<v Speaker 11>I think, you know, that's a lifetime saw.

0:57:50.775 --> 0:57:56.135
<v Speaker 3>I ran that saw for about fifteen years, so I

0:57:56.535 --> 0:58:01.055
<v Speaker 3>know it intimately in a sense. They're awesome, they really are.

0:58:02.055 --> 0:58:03.775
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, And then you know, I know they're not. You

0:58:03.815 --> 0:58:06.815
<v Speaker 11>know a lot of people going to these forty volt systems,

0:58:06.895 --> 0:58:09.695
<v Speaker 11>but you know for power or brilliant.

0:58:10.335 --> 0:58:11.335
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I haven't.

0:58:11.535 --> 0:58:14.375
<v Speaker 3>I haven't moved to that yet, but you know, at

0:58:14.375 --> 0:58:17.735
<v Speaker 3>this point in time, like the the two drop saws

0:58:17.775 --> 0:58:21.495
<v Speaker 3>that I have fine, right, so I don't need to upgrade. Certainly,

0:58:21.535 --> 0:58:23.975
<v Speaker 3>I know a lot of a lot of contractors who

0:58:24.015 --> 0:58:28.535
<v Speaker 3>are moving to cordless drop saws, and by all accounts,

0:58:28.815 --> 0:58:31.095
<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm still getting my head around the performance there,

0:58:31.135 --> 0:58:33.935
<v Speaker 3>but it's it's pretty damn good to be fair.

0:58:34.335 --> 0:58:37.415
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, that main and mine has got a forty volt.

0:58:37.735 --> 0:58:40.975
<v Speaker 11>It's brilliant. However it's a lot more money.

0:58:41.455 --> 0:58:44.575
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, again, you know, it's one of those things

0:58:44.575 --> 0:58:47.175
<v Speaker 3>that if, for example, you're like for finishing work for

0:58:47.455 --> 0:58:49.895
<v Speaker 3>you know, if you're moving around the house doing finishing work,

0:58:50.815 --> 0:58:54.455
<v Speaker 3>I think having a cordless or battery powered set up

0:58:54.655 --> 0:58:57.695
<v Speaker 3>is fantastic. If you're working in a site where power

0:58:57.735 --> 0:59:00.535
<v Speaker 3>is a little bit unreliable, then that's fantastic as well.

0:59:00.575 --> 0:59:05.015
<v Speaker 3>But most of the time, I mean yeah, I mean, look,

0:59:05.055 --> 0:59:08.695
<v Speaker 3>I to be fair, I've still got, for example, a

0:59:08.815 --> 0:59:12.415
<v Speaker 3>corded skill saw at home. Have I used it much

0:59:12.575 --> 0:59:13.815
<v Speaker 3>over the last couple of years.

0:59:14.095 --> 0:59:14.135
<v Speaker 1>No.

0:59:15.335 --> 0:59:19.055
<v Speaker 3>Does the battery powered gear that I've got suffice for

0:59:19.655 --> 0:59:22.375
<v Speaker 3>ninety nine percent of what I do one hundred percent.

0:59:22.615 --> 0:59:29.775
<v Speaker 3>It's amazing how quickly we've swapped across. Yeah, chat, okay, buddy,

0:59:29.855 --> 0:59:34.655
<v Speaker 3>take care. All the best followed then, Pete. Someone buying

0:59:34.655 --> 0:59:37.295
<v Speaker 3>a table so should also get a good pusher such

0:59:37.335 --> 0:59:40.015
<v Speaker 3>as the gripper to save their hands and fingers. Cheers

0:59:40.015 --> 0:59:42.975
<v Speaker 3>from Moz If you're wondering what that is, it's like

0:59:43.415 --> 0:59:45.895
<v Speaker 3>you shouldn't have your fingers any w near the blade, right,

0:59:46.215 --> 0:59:49.655
<v Speaker 3>So typically if you're cutting something that's smaller and you need.

0:59:49.895 --> 0:59:51.895
<v Speaker 3>It needs to be close to the blade. Then you

0:59:52.015 --> 0:59:54.535
<v Speaker 3>end up with a push stick and you can get

0:59:54.615 --> 0:59:57.415
<v Speaker 3>flash ones like the gripper and things like that. To

0:59:57.455 --> 0:59:59.655
<v Speaker 3>be fair, I make my own. I've made a number

0:59:59.695 --> 1:00:01.815
<v Speaker 3>of them over the years, and if you look online

1:00:01.815 --> 1:00:04.495
<v Speaker 3>there's all sorts of different varieties and so on. The

1:00:04.535 --> 1:00:06.095
<v Speaker 3>one that I made the other day has got a

1:00:06.135 --> 1:00:09.495
<v Speaker 3>lot handle on the top works absolutely fine. Oh, eight

1:00:09.575 --> 1:00:11.975
<v Speaker 3>hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1:00:12.095 --> 1:00:13.135
<v Speaker 4>Do we take break?

1:00:13.255 --> 1:00:15.975
<v Speaker 3>I think so let's do that and a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>great texts as well. With regard to power tools, more

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<v Speaker 3>than happy to talk tools, particularly around you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>suppose it's a competency thing where you need to have

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<v Speaker 3>the time on the tool to become competent in its

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<v Speaker 3>use without becoming complacent, because that's that's when things go wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll come back and talk more about tools. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 3>all things building construction here at new Stalk SeeDB. The

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<v Speaker 3>lines are open. The number is eight hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 3>ten eighty back in a moment your.

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<v Speaker 4>News stalk s hed B.

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<v Speaker 3>And to be fair, I'm kind of in a happy

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<v Speaker 3>place talking about power tools, so we can talk power tools.

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<v Speaker 3>We can talk power tool safety usage and that sort

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<v Speaker 3>of thing, and it's I'm very much in favor of

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<v Speaker 3>you encouraging.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyone to.

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<v Speaker 3>Purchase and use and develop their skills with power tools.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm very conscious, having, you know, years and years

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<v Speaker 3>of working with people, some of whom have had life

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<v Speaker 3>changing injuries as a result of incidents involving power tools,

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<v Speaker 3>that safety is also powera amount that I'm absolutely convinced to.

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<v Speaker 3>Safety always, most cases always comes down to the competency

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<v Speaker 3>and the attitude and the awareness of the operator.

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<v Speaker 4>Every now and.

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<v Speaker 3>Then, you know, tools will kind of bite you in

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<v Speaker 3>the sense that they fail and that becomes a problem.

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<v Speaker 3>But nine times out of ten, it's always about the operator.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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<v Speaker 4>Parvin. Good morning to you.

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<v Speaker 15>How are you?

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<v Speaker 4>Good morning?

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<v Speaker 14>I'm well, thanks, sadly about I've got about nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 14>property and when it rains, not every time, but it's

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<v Speaker 14>what it comes through the popular window into the house. Yep,

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<v Speaker 14>you haven't heard of anything like that before. What the

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<v Speaker 14>best way we live that would be?

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<v Speaker 3>It really comes down to finding out where and why, right,

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<v Speaker 3>so you can fix it if you know exactly where

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<v Speaker 3>it's coming from. It's interesting that it owns it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>happen every time it rains. So what that tells me

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<v Speaker 3>is that it's about a combination of wind.

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<v Speaker 14>And rain that kind of kind We didn't rule it that,

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<v Speaker 14>but we're not that could or not because that even

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<v Speaker 14>on non wind as it's come through as well close

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<v Speaker 14>to the window, yes, and worked our way good. We

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<v Speaker 14>couldn't just kind of like, yeah, lostedness system.

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<v Speaker 3>So when you've if you're using a hose and ideally

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<v Speaker 3>not you know, with the hose on direct but use

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<v Speaker 3>it like the soaka setting or a sprinkler setting or

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<v Speaker 3>a shower setting or something like that, so that you've

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<v Speaker 3>got trying to replicate normal weather conditions and you couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>make it leak.

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<v Speaker 4>Then no, it did that.

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<v Speaker 14>We got to a stadium, it didn't it, but you

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<v Speaker 14>couldn't stand to exactly. We kind of feeled the whole

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<v Speaker 14>area of ceiling.

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<v Speaker 15>Yep, and we thought.

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<v Speaker 14>About two three weeks later.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, right, Yeah, it definitely only leaks when it rains. Yes, Okay, Now,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's a question I often ask people because sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>in fact the leak is not about the weather.

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<v Speaker 4>It's about a pipe for example.

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<v Speaker 14>True.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so it's just a sort of process of elimination, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I aluminium jewry, timber jowinery.

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<v Speaker 14>Timber jewry. It's kind of weather on. It's got flatboards

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<v Speaker 14>in the middle with the window that she placed in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Building, and above the window. What happens above the window

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<v Speaker 3>how far up to either the roof or to the

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<v Speaker 3>second story.

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<v Speaker 14>It goes to a second story to another window which

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<v Speaker 14>doesn't which is really kind of strange because of this

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<v Speaker 14>window one above the other ones one on one story,

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<v Speaker 14>ones on the other, the top one doesn't think.

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<v Speaker 3>It's unless potentially what's happening is that the top one

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<v Speaker 3>does leak, but it leaks at the sill and the

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<v Speaker 3>water is draining down through the building envelope, and then

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<v Speaker 3>you're seeing it on the lower story window. Does it

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<v Speaker 3>leak at the top of the bottom of the window.

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<v Speaker 14>Top of the window comes through that l like you know,

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<v Speaker 14>you've got a window frame that comes from the top

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<v Speaker 14>of the frame. Basically just kind of natally, it's quite

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<v Speaker 14>hard sometimes, you know, it's just like when it's coming

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<v Speaker 14>through quite a lot, and it's sometimes it's just a

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<v Speaker 14>light to drop. Sometimes I'm not a gash of that

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<v Speaker 14>comes down quite a lot of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So when you were using the hose to get

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<v Speaker 3>it to leak, did it leak when you were on

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<v Speaker 3>the lower window? If you work from the sill up

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<v Speaker 3>to the head, did it leak when you hit the head?

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<v Speaker 4>It did?

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<v Speaker 14>Okay, not a centure?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you had a professional coming hell look around, because.

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<v Speaker 11>It look at it and he went through and sealed

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<v Speaker 11>it as well.

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<v Speaker 14>But he's said, of failing that, you must have the whole.

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<v Speaker 3>Wall off and kind of investigate where it's actually coming from.

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<v Speaker 14>Pretty much. Yeah, basically, yeah, yeah, that's what I got.

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<v Speaker 14>Just another quick fixel that the way that because I've

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<v Speaker 14>seen the stuff on TV, like I'm not onto, but

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<v Speaker 14>on Edge on Facebook where people put like a spray

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<v Speaker 14>or silicons.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean I've used those.

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<v Speaker 3>I've used those in the right setting, so for example,

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<v Speaker 3>corner of the spouting where the ceilant might have broken down, right,

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<v Speaker 3>or a long flashing where there's a junction that might

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<v Speaker 3>need to be sealed, or I think I even used

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<v Speaker 3>it on some really rotten clear light roofing and just

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<v Speaker 3>sprayed that over the top and it kind of worked

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<v Speaker 3>as a temporary fix. But in terms of effects for

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<v Speaker 3>what you've got, I don't know that you would that.

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<v Speaker 4>Would be the solution.

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<v Speaker 14>I want to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, interesting that you like. If you can make

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<v Speaker 3>it leak, typically you can then identify if you know

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<v Speaker 3>where you're spraying the water, like when you do that investigation. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I think so, and do it with someone on the

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<v Speaker 3>inside and someone on the outside so that you absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>typically that should identify it. And so I guess there's

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of things. One is it might be leaking

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<v Speaker 3>around the actual window frame, right, so if a sash

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<v Speaker 3>is not well fitted, you can get leakage around there.

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<v Speaker 3>Typically it'll leak around the head flashing, but in this instance,

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<v Speaker 3>with another window above, the leak might be happening there

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<v Speaker 3>and coming down. So i'd have a look at the

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<v Speaker 3>seal flashing there. Yeah, but apart from that, I think

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<v Speaker 3>it might be a little bit on your own. Their pardon,

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<v Speaker 3>good luck with it all. Oh, eight hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 3>ten eighty is then number to call. We will take

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<v Speaker 3>another break. We'll come back to Leslie and a quick

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<v Speaker 3>text on the powertool theme.

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<v Speaker 4>Pick.

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<v Speaker 3>My husband has an old saw bench which he got

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<v Speaker 3>in the nineteen seventies, so it has no safety guard

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<v Speaker 3>on it. Can I buy one from Mary? You'd have

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<v Speaker 3>to scour, you know, trade me your second hand tools

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<v Speaker 3>and that sort of thing to find one. I certainly

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<v Speaker 3>don't think there'll be one on the shelves anymore. If

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<v Speaker 3>it's a nineteen seventy one, it's probably a good old

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<v Speaker 3>fashioned tenor that's what we had when I was doing

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<v Speaker 3>my early years of building, big old heavy thing. Lugged

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<v Speaker 3>it on and off the trailer like he rattled, and

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<v Speaker 3>carried on cut plenty kitchens out with it, though. That

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<v Speaker 3>was a remarkable thing. Hello as and cut them and

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<v Speaker 3>made them not cut them up and got rid of

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<v Speaker 3>them like we used to.

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<v Speaker 4>Make our own kitchens, Leslie. Good morning to you.

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah, good morning, Peter. Look I've got an area of

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<v Speaker 17>backlawn i'm doing away with, and I've put down matting

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<v Speaker 17>and I want to put some stones on top yep.

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<v Speaker 17>And I went to the quarry the other day to

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<v Speaker 17>find out, you know, because the guy asked what period

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<v Speaker 17>is and it's five x seven meters, yes, And I

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<v Speaker 17>couldn't understand how many stones, you know, he was talking

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<v Speaker 17>meters or something. I just couldn't understand he.

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<v Speaker 3>Would typically do a measurement in cubic meters. And so

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<v Speaker 3>if so, it's five by seven year, right, and what

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<v Speaker 3>type of stones are you talking? Like river pebbles that sort.

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<v Speaker 17>Of thing, yes, yes, not too light, but not you

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<v Speaker 17>not the big stone.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like a decorative pebble types thing. So you would

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<v Speaker 3>probably put maybe fifty millimeters two inches of decorative pebble down.

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<v Speaker 3>Anything less than that it would be hard to get cover.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's let's assume that you're putting fifty millimeters down, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so to be seven by five, which is seven seven

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<v Speaker 3>times five equals thirty five times point oh five, which

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<v Speaker 3>is one point seventy five. So if you asked him

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<v Speaker 3>to deliver two cubic meters of stones, that would be

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<v Speaker 3>around Now, two cubic meters is not a small pile,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, So an average eight by four trailer,

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<v Speaker 3>so an eight or two point four by one point

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<v Speaker 3>two trailer with a reasonable upstand on it will take

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<v Speaker 3>about a cubic meter, so it would be two trailer

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<v Speaker 3>loads of metal or these days they often will deliver

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<v Speaker 3>those sorts of landscaping supplies in one cubic meter bags.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you got two of those bags dropped off

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<v Speaker 3>that would give you enough to cover that area about

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<v Speaker 3>fifty millimeters deep.

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah, yeah, I think I'll get him to deliver it.

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<v Speaker 3>And oh yeah, and then I'm thinking this would be

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<v Speaker 3>a great job for a young nephew or grandson or

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<v Speaker 3>something like that to barrow that around because there'll be

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of work involved in that too.

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<v Speaker 17>Oh yes, yes, yes, well worth you know, for them

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<v Speaker 17>to deliver. Yeah, absolutely, saying oh, you can hire a

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<v Speaker 17>trailer for thirty dollars, you know, And I said, I said,

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<v Speaker 17>do I have to do all the work to load

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<v Speaker 17>all the stone?

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<v Speaker 3>I know they'll load it, but it's the unloading which

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<v Speaker 3>is the hardbit. So yeah, yeah, I'd probably look at

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<v Speaker 3>getting someone to give you a hand at the other

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<v Speaker 3>end with a wheelbarrow and a shovel. And also when

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<v Speaker 3>you do that, when you clear that area, make sure

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<v Speaker 3>you put down some weed mat underneath the stone. That awesome, perfect, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>two cubic meters will get you there. Okay, okay, no

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<v Speaker 3>trouble at all. Nice to check see. Then I wait,

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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<v Speaker 3>Ray A very good morning to you.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, good morning, we've got a downstairs tiled shower which

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<v Speaker 7>we've just replaced, and the tiler and breaking out the

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<v Speaker 7>existing tiles damaged the pipe that coast on the outlet

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<v Speaker 7>down the drain. Yes, he got a plumber and who

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<v Speaker 7>instead of putting a straight piece of pipe in which

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<v Speaker 7>was normally, he put a pipe with a bend, a

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<v Speaker 7>vertical bend in it. I guess it was easy to

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<v Speaker 7>access the point. So we haven't been able to use

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<v Speaker 7>the shower for a couple of weeks off and strive,

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<v Speaker 7>And yesterday we used the shower and we found that

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<v Speaker 7>the water didn't run away as quickly as it should.

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<v Speaker 7>Then we understand that it's because it's got a vertical

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<v Speaker 7>bend there the water. We ran it for about five

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<v Speaker 7>minutes and it pulled about one centimeter on the floor

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<v Speaker 7>of the shower before running away. Is that acceptable?

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<v Speaker 3>It's not uncommon to have water build up. You know

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<v Speaker 3>that in the end of the volume of water coming

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<v Speaker 3>out of the shower heater is greater than what can

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<v Speaker 3>quickly get through through the trap and out. I suppose

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<v Speaker 3>the issue would be if you had a shower, Let's

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<v Speaker 3>say you do a three minute shower for example, and

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<v Speaker 3>at the end of that time you've found that you've

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<v Speaker 3>got two or three centimeters of water, or it's getting

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<v Speaker 3>to the point where it might overflow the hob, then

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<v Speaker 3>that's probably an issue. If it's a small amount of water,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not ideal, but it might not be the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the world. I suppose the thing to do would

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<v Speaker 3>be to get an assurance from the plumber that long

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<v Speaker 3>term you're not going to have any issues with that. Ideally,

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<v Speaker 3>you want the water to get away as quickly as possible.

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<v Speaker 3>And the damage to the existing was that to the

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<v Speaker 3>waste water outlet? Was that with what got broken?

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<v Speaker 15>Right?

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<v Speaker 7>He was in jack cammering the tiles out that jackamer

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<v Speaker 7>went through the pipe.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, did you I'm always a little bit cautious around

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<v Speaker 3>those sorts of repair, you know, where you can't see

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<v Speaker 3>it later on, and particularly is it on in a

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<v Speaker 3>concrete slab or yeah, it would have been yeah, yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 7>And I saw them put concrete encasement around it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Did they test the line.

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<v Speaker 7>So they put water down it? They put water down it?

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>No, Typically for testing what you would do is you'd

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<v Speaker 3>put a plug in the line, right so to block

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<v Speaker 3>it off and then fill the line with water and

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<v Speaker 3>make sure that it holds water.

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<v Speaker 7>No, they didn't do that.

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<v Speaker 3>That in my mind, that wouldn't be an unreasonable thing

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<v Speaker 3>to ask the contractor to do, because chances are your

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<v Speaker 3>shower is one of the lowest outlets, right, so if

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<v Speaker 3>you if there's an inspection junction outside, you could take

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<v Speaker 3>that inspection cap off, install a plug or a bung

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<v Speaker 3>into the line, and then fill the shower until you

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<v Speaker 3>see the water coming up because obviously it can't escape,

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<v Speaker 3>so it will come up. And then you fill that.

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<v Speaker 3>That will mean that where the junction is, that connection

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<v Speaker 3>is then fully saturated. It's underwater. And so if the

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<v Speaker 3>level in the shower recedes, let's say over a two

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<v Speaker 3>hour period, then you know that there's a leak somewhere,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'd be I would always be concerned around that junction.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think doing a test is not an unreasonable

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<v Speaker 3>thing to ask.

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<v Speaker 7>But a general water on the bottom at full bore

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<v Speaker 7>is probably not a big issue. I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 7>probably not the most desirable, but.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it probably isn't. And I you know, sometimes we

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<v Speaker 3>just have to be a bit pragmatic around these things, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So no, that's probably not an issue.

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<v Speaker 11>But I thought I.

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<v Speaker 7>Had was to change the shower head to a less flow.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, look for a number of reasons, that's not

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<v Speaker 3>a bad idea. I mean, and to be fair, number

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<v Speaker 3>of new shower heads now are actually they're they're restricted

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<v Speaker 3>in some way, so they don't allow the same volume

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<v Speaker 3>of water. Should still be a comfortable shower in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of water efficiency, Yes, it's a good idea to have

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<v Speaker 3>a efficient Have you got.

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<v Speaker 7>One time for one more question?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 15>Sure.

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<v Speaker 7>We've got an engineered large bench top in our kitchen.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a black black colored and yesterday my wife put

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<v Speaker 7>a very hot cup on it and it made a

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<v Speaker 7>white mark yep. And then I got some silly me

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<v Speaker 7>got some arm just cleaner, yeah yeah, and I've tried

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<v Speaker 7>to remove it. First of all, I use method SPIRITSTO.

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<v Speaker 7>I used some cleaner, and the cleaner took the dullness

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<v Speaker 7>of the area, the black area, and there's probably a

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<v Speaker 7>two hundred mil sort of skirkle where I've tried to

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<v Speaker 7>take the mark away, but it's sort of flattened the color,

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<v Speaker 7>and I'm wondering how I can bring that color backer.

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<v Speaker 7>The very simple thing I thought about was keeping a

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<v Speaker 7>tin and nugget and.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, right, right, right.

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<v Speaker 3>The best thing to do is to there are a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of companies out there that specialize in that sort

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<v Speaker 3>of remediation. As it happens, not a similar incident happened

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<v Speaker 3>close to home, in fact, in my home, and so

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<v Speaker 3>when I reached out and went to there's a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of companies around. There's people like bench top Doctor, for example,

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<v Speaker 3>who will come and do repairs to benchtops. Leave it

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<v Speaker 3>to the professionals, because I think anything you probably try

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<v Speaker 3>and do yourself, will you know, worsen it rather than

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<v Speaker 3>use that company In the end, I didn't. I've used

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<v Speaker 3>them on other jobs. So there's there's people that specialize

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<v Speaker 3>in stone. There's people that specialize in if you know

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<v Speaker 3>who installed the stone in the first place, go back

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<v Speaker 3>to them. They've probably got contacts for repairs and remediation.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think something like this it is really a

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<v Speaker 3>professional job. So have a scout around. I've used guys

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<v Speaker 3>who do acrylics, for example, but bench stops get a

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<v Speaker 3>professional and back after the break question of a building nature,

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<v Speaker 3>we are more than happy to talk about that. Oh

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<v Speaker 3>eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

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<v Speaker 3>call here at News Talk s DBC you with people

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<v Speaker 3>wolf Camp resident Builder.

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<v Speaker 4>A little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Later on in the program, we have the delightful Recline

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<v Speaker 3>Past from eight thirty this morning. So if you've got

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<v Speaker 3>questions of a entomological I eat the Wonderful world of

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<v Speaker 3>bugs or a gardening nature then you can call us

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<v Speaker 3>around eight thirty this morning. Bit of an update from

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<v Speaker 3>the Olympics as well to answer the most recent question

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<v Speaker 3>text why is there no mention of Emma Tweg on

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<v Speaker 3>the silver medal? Well, the good news is is that

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<v Speaker 3>Francesca Rudkin has secured an interview with said Emma Twig

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<v Speaker 3>and they will be talking during Francesca's show, which starts

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<v Speaker 3>at nine o'clock this morning. So there you go, a

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<v Speaker 3>live interview. Oh W eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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<v Speaker 3>If you've got a question we've been talking about. We've

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<v Speaker 3>got talking a little bit about power tools at the

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<v Speaker 3>beginning of the program and really around safety and what's

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<v Speaker 3>sort of an adequate a minimum level of safety in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of ensuring that if somebody who's unfamiliar with them,

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<v Speaker 3>or if a child comes into your workspace, what precautions

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<v Speaker 3>can there be. Now, I'm very much of the attitude

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<v Speaker 3>that if you're the one doing the job, and this

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<v Speaker 3>is whether you're a contractor, you're responsible for the environment

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<v Speaker 3>and for controlling that. If you're a homeowner like most

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<v Speaker 3>of us are, and we're doing work around the house,

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<v Speaker 3>then it becomes our responsibility. I think the person doing

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<v Speaker 3>the job to ensure that the environment is safe, and

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<v Speaker 3>that includes taking sensible precautions.

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<v Speaker 4>Around power tools.

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<v Speaker 3>If you and all of us, most of us would

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<v Speaker 3>have done this over the years. You're doing a job

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<v Speaker 3>at home and there might be small children floating around,

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<v Speaker 3>There might be people who are unfamiliar with power tools around,

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<v Speaker 3>so what are sensible precautions to ensure that they don't

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<v Speaker 3>either out of curiosity or lack of knowledge, inadvertently turn

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<v Speaker 3>on a power tool, cut themselves, hurt themselves in any way.

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<v Speaker 3>But ultimately, I think it always comes down to you

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<v Speaker 3>being in control of the environment, you setting the standards

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<v Speaker 3>for that. So we've had a whole number of texts

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<v Speaker 3>and calls around safety switches and one person who had

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<v Speaker 3>like a complete power override in their workshop so that

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<v Speaker 3>they could simply flip one switch and kill all of

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<v Speaker 3>the power or deenergize. This is a new word that

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<v Speaker 3>I learn this week when I was talking to some

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<v Speaker 3>guys who were doing taking overhead power lines and connected

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<v Speaker 3>or disconnecting those and doing new underground power in a street,

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<v Speaker 3>and I had to give them access to the house

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<v Speaker 3>for the electrical inspector to come through and do a

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<v Speaker 3>certificate at the end to make sure that the work

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<v Speaker 3>done by the contractor was safe and compliant. And so, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>the guy was talking normally. I don't know, it's just

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<v Speaker 3>my old language. I would say you kill the power,

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<v Speaker 3>right that means you've turned it off, But no, you

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<v Speaker 3>de energize the power. These days, I guess for reasonable reasons.

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<v Speaker 3>Talking about killing things is not that nice. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>that was a new word that I let And the

1:20:53.935 --> 1:20:56.295
<v Speaker 3>other day actually on this show, we were talking about

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<v Speaker 3>electrical safety and electrical safety certificates and what sort of

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<v Speaker 3>documentation is required by people undertaking this work in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of at the end of the work of documents will

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<v Speaker 3>you should you receive from the contractor. So the team

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<v Speaker 3>that was working in the street and the house that

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<v Speaker 3>I had to give them access to, they had my

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<v Speaker 3>email and so at the end of the job they

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<v Speaker 3>completed the work. On the Tuesday, they had the electrical

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<v Speaker 3>safety inspector come and inspect the work done by the

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<v Speaker 3>main contractor, and then from both of those people I

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<v Speaker 3>received documentation the next day, one which was sort of

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<v Speaker 3>a record of inspection for high risk work i eat.

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<v Speaker 4>Connecting a new.

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<v Speaker 3>Mains to the house, and another one was a certificate

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<v Speaker 3>of compliance from the electricians that did the work did

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<v Speaker 3>the actual installation of the connection of the new power

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<v Speaker 3>to the meet aboard. Both of them sent me documentations,

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<v Speaker 3>got their registration number on It describes the type of

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<v Speaker 3>work done. One signed off by the electrical inspector and

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<v Speaker 3>one signed off by the electricians that actually did the work.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's the sort of basic documentation that you should

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<v Speaker 3>get after electrical work is undertaken. This instance, it's high

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<v Speaker 3>risk because it involves the mains, but regardless of what

1:22:12.175 --> 1:22:15.095
<v Speaker 3>you do, you should get a COOC from your electrician

1:22:15.175 --> 1:22:18.135
<v Speaker 3>for any electrical work done on your property. Oh eight,

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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<v Speaker 3>If you've got a question of a building nature, you

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<v Speaker 3>can give us a call, a quick one on a

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<v Speaker 3>text on the showers. We were talking about that with

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<v Speaker 3>ray just before the news. So a shower has been refurbished.

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<v Speaker 3>During the process, the tiler seemingly, while they were chipping

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<v Speaker 3>away at the tiles, ended up breaking the wastewater pipe,

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<v Speaker 3>and so the plumber had to come and install, make

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<v Speaker 3>a new connection to the broken wastewater pipe, and then

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<v Speaker 3>do the trap install. The waste tiler's finished the job,

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<v Speaker 3>water doesn't seem to flow as much as it used to,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm saying, well, I think it wouldn't be unreasonable

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<v Speaker 3>to ask them to test that line to make sure

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<v Speaker 3>that they also have sealed that junction. So again, if

1:23:04.935 --> 1:23:09.055
<v Speaker 3>you're doing a new build, you're doing renovations, Council, as

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<v Speaker 3>part of their inspection for the waste water lines, will

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<v Speaker 3>ask the plumbers to install a bun or a plug

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<v Speaker 3>into the line and then you fill that line to

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<v Speaker 3>make sure that it's holding water. And it's quite a

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<v Speaker 3>simple thing. You fill it up to the you can

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<v Speaker 3>see where the water is, you can mark that on

1:23:27.095 --> 1:23:29.215
<v Speaker 3>the pipe, and then if over a period of an

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<v Speaker 3>hour or two that drops, well, you know you've got

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<v Speaker 3>a leak somewhere. Really simple, so fix it before you

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<v Speaker 3>close it in. I'm just wondering whether they haven't done

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<v Speaker 3>that on this particular job. Oh eight hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 3>ten eighty lines are open. Oh and a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>talk about power tools and safety. So more than happy

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<v Speaker 3>to talk tools and tool selection and safety. That there

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<v Speaker 3>is that trepidition at trepidation rather when if it's unfamiliar

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<v Speaker 3>to you, but you want to start out down that

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<v Speaker 3>sort of I'm going to own some power tool journeys journey,

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<v Speaker 3>then how do you start? You know that if you

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<v Speaker 3>buy a table saw, you've never used one in your life.

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<v Speaker 3>You decide that you've got a project that you want

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<v Speaker 3>to use one for and you're unfamiliar with them, or

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<v Speaker 3>perhaps you've never used one at all, and so you

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<v Speaker 3>bring it home, you unwrap it, you put it together.

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<v Speaker 3>It's got to be just slightly terrifying the first time

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<v Speaker 3>you turn it on. So where do you go to learn?

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<v Speaker 3>I would suggest you should spend some time with someone

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<v Speaker 3>who's competent with them and understand the processes before you

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<v Speaker 3>had to go yourself. Oh Wa eight one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>eighty ten eighty. Will take a short break, we'll be

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<v Speaker 3>back in just a moment. Your news talk said be.

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<v Speaker 4>Fascinating.

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<v Speaker 3>Texts from Michael just very briefly, morning, Pete. I'm an

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<v Speaker 3>electrical engineer and love doing work at home. I've made

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<v Speaker 3>a foot operated powerboard with COC and AC to run

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<v Speaker 3>my table saw another electrical power tool, so that i

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<v Speaker 3>always have both hands on the workpiece or the tool

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<v Speaker 3>without having to remove a hand to switch the tool off.

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<v Speaker 3>Especially the table chairs from Michael. Interesting approach. I'm fascinated

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<v Speaker 3>by that.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just trying to think of all of the time

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<v Speaker 3>that I used the table saw. I would I would

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<v Speaker 3>finish using you know, I've cut something, or I've done

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<v Speaker 3>a rebayto or something like that, and I've finished, I've

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<v Speaker 3>removed the timber from the saw, put that aside, and

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<v Speaker 3>then I'll reach down and turn the saw off. That's

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<v Speaker 3>that's enough.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, I don't need to keep my I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to keep my hands by the blade to be fair.

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<v Speaker 3>And then have and then think foot control. Look, I

1:25:38.655 --> 1:25:40.615
<v Speaker 3>can see the advantage of it, and I've certainly worked

1:25:40.655 --> 1:25:43.375
<v Speaker 3>in factories where we've had foot control, for example, for

1:25:43.935 --> 1:25:46.655
<v Speaker 3>things like guillotines and that sort of thing. They are

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<v Speaker 3>really nifty, interesting, fascinating. Thank you Michael for that. Ernest

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<v Speaker 3>Good morning to you, sir.

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<v Speaker 12>Good morning, sir morning. I'm working on a nineteen sixties

1:25:58.415 --> 1:26:03.215
<v Speaker 12>half at the moment from my home, and I'm redoing

1:26:03.295 --> 1:26:06.855
<v Speaker 12>the kitchen, and last night I started taking the sort

1:26:06.895 --> 1:26:11.375
<v Speaker 12>of lino plastic flooring, which underneath that was a dark

1:26:11.495 --> 1:26:17.655
<v Speaker 12>brown board which I know is masonite, and then underneath

1:26:17.655 --> 1:26:22.575
<v Speaker 12>that is the floor in absolutely beautiful conditions. However, the

1:26:22.575 --> 1:26:26.415
<v Speaker 12>masonite has been staple down and you can break the

1:26:26.455 --> 1:26:29.815
<v Speaker 12>masonright off and you're left with the staples. Most of

1:26:29.895 --> 1:26:34.455
<v Speaker 12>the staples, like four four out of five will come out,

1:26:34.575 --> 1:26:38.335
<v Speaker 12>and I found using a pair of vice grips and

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<v Speaker 12>a plank underneath them and sort of pulled them out

1:26:41.695 --> 1:26:44.415
<v Speaker 12>that way. But some of them don't come out. I'm

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<v Speaker 12>just wondering if there is a neck to it. Like

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<v Speaker 12>I tried tapping the staple before putting it out, but

1:26:51.055 --> 1:26:55.855
<v Speaker 12>I felt bad about doing that. So some of the

1:26:55.855 --> 1:26:59.095
<v Speaker 12>staples bake off, so you've got two pins sticking up

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<v Speaker 12>the any way of coping with it better?

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<v Speaker 3>And part of me is just smiling from year to

1:27:07.615 --> 1:27:10.735
<v Speaker 3>ear because I did a job exactly like that, but

1:27:10.935 --> 1:27:12.895
<v Speaker 3>just between you and I, I did it when I

1:27:12.935 --> 1:27:15.735
<v Speaker 3>was a much younger man, And to be fair, I'd

1:27:15.775 --> 1:27:18.895
<v Speaker 3>had a big night out the night before, and my

1:27:19.095 --> 1:27:22.375
<v Speaker 3>job the next day was to pull staples out of

1:27:22.415 --> 1:27:25.135
<v Speaker 3>the floor. So spending a day on your hands and

1:27:25.215 --> 1:27:28.535
<v Speaker 3>knees pulling staples out of the floor with just the

1:27:28.575 --> 1:27:32.935
<v Speaker 3>most massive hangover was not pleasant, So I understand how

1:27:33.335 --> 1:27:36.335
<v Speaker 3>difficult that job is. Look to be fair, if you're

1:27:36.335 --> 1:27:39.135
<v Speaker 3>achieving four out of five, you're doing better than I did.

1:27:40.135 --> 1:27:42.535
<v Speaker 3>My performance might have been slightly impaired at the time,

1:27:42.575 --> 1:27:47.455
<v Speaker 3>but in the end, I think what I found and

1:27:47.975 --> 1:27:50.535
<v Speaker 3>over the years that if you can get them out,

1:27:50.575 --> 1:27:54.335
<v Speaker 3>that's great. Tapping them to sort of release the tension

1:27:54.455 --> 1:27:56.895
<v Speaker 3>or the grip that they have, because the staples rust

1:27:56.935 --> 1:27:59.055
<v Speaker 3>a little bit over time, right, so if you can

1:27:59.135 --> 1:28:02.495
<v Speaker 3>loosen that bond by giving them a small tap. The

1:28:02.535 --> 1:28:05.735
<v Speaker 3>hard thing is, because they're not particularly strong, you tend

1:28:05.735 --> 1:28:08.015
<v Speaker 3>to flatten a head, and in fact, if you hit

1:28:08.095 --> 1:28:10.855
<v Speaker 3>them too hard, you'll create a crease in the in

1:28:10.895 --> 1:28:13.695
<v Speaker 3>the wire and that'll just make it more fragile. So

1:28:14.135 --> 1:28:19.335
<v Speaker 3>it's a small tap. If you really wanted to, you

1:28:19.375 --> 1:28:22.255
<v Speaker 3>could try soaking the floor to make the timber wet,

1:28:22.295 --> 1:28:25.015
<v Speaker 3>but I don't know that it'll have a significant impact.

1:28:25.575 --> 1:28:27.375
<v Speaker 3>What I found is that I got most of the

1:28:27.375 --> 1:28:30.615
<v Speaker 3>staples out like you have, and then the ones that

1:28:30.855 --> 1:28:34.695
<v Speaker 3>broke off and that I couldn't get any purchase on anymore,

1:28:35.295 --> 1:28:38.535
<v Speaker 3>I would simply drive them down with a nail punch.

1:28:38.975 --> 1:28:41.215
<v Speaker 3>And in fact, the ones that I missed once the

1:28:41.335 --> 1:28:45.055
<v Speaker 3>sander went over them. It's you're talking about a millimeter, right,

1:28:45.575 --> 1:28:48.135
<v Speaker 3>You kind of hardly even notice that if that's your

1:28:48.135 --> 1:28:49.615
<v Speaker 3>intention is to stand the floor.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, yeah, it is my intention. And I wondered about

1:28:54.575 --> 1:28:57.735
<v Speaker 12>that that I had visions of it ripping up the

1:28:59.415 --> 1:29:00.095
<v Speaker 12>sand paper.

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<v Speaker 3>No, don't worry about that. And the slightest can I

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<v Speaker 3>How much of the removal of your ex lino have

1:29:07.255 --> 1:29:09.135
<v Speaker 3>you done?

1:29:09.615 --> 1:29:12.455
<v Speaker 12>I've done about a square meter or so.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, there, have you done an asbestos test?

1:29:21.975 --> 1:29:25.055
<v Speaker 4>The what s an asbestos?

1:29:25.175 --> 1:29:25.335
<v Speaker 7>No?

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<v Speaker 12>No, this is a wood product. Yeah, and I think

1:29:29.935 --> 1:29:31.295
<v Speaker 12>it's called Mason Night.

1:29:32.335 --> 1:29:36.095
<v Speaker 3>And look just it would be remissive me if I

1:29:36.095 --> 1:29:40.015
<v Speaker 3>didn't raise this right because I'm I'm aware that in

1:29:40.575 --> 1:29:43.935
<v Speaker 3>certain types of lino underlays and certain types of those

1:29:44.095 --> 1:29:48.135
<v Speaker 3>that may snite board, there may well be asbestos containing

1:29:48.175 --> 1:29:51.535
<v Speaker 3>material or ACM. And so before you go and do

1:29:51.655 --> 1:29:55.255
<v Speaker 3>lots more work. Certainly, I hope that you're wearing a

1:29:55.295 --> 1:29:59.055
<v Speaker 3>mask and those sorts of things, but I would suggest

1:29:59.295 --> 1:30:01.455
<v Speaker 3>that you take a sample of it, send it off

1:30:01.455 --> 1:30:03.855
<v Speaker 3>to an industrial laboratory. And there are lots of them

1:30:03.855 --> 1:30:06.495
<v Speaker 3>that are or there are more of them available. Our

1:30:06.935 --> 1:30:11.415
<v Speaker 3>testing is not uncommon, and just have for your own

1:30:11.455 --> 1:30:15.175
<v Speaker 3>peace of mind, because even if during the removal, you know,

1:30:15.535 --> 1:30:17.815
<v Speaker 3>if you're creating dust that's going to stay in the house,

1:30:18.295 --> 1:30:22.255
<v Speaker 3>then you've effectively spread those asbestos fibers throughout the house.

1:30:22.295 --> 1:30:28.775
<v Speaker 3>So have it tested before you do too much work

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<v Speaker 3>would be my recommendation. What you do is up to you,

1:30:31.375 --> 1:30:34.295
<v Speaker 3>but that I feel that I need to tell you

1:30:34.335 --> 1:30:37.535
<v Speaker 3>that thank you for that. Yeah, no trouble at all.

1:30:37.895 --> 1:30:39.975
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, and once it's done, I think if you've

1:30:39.975 --> 1:30:42.495
<v Speaker 3>got most of them out and the last ones you sand,

1:30:42.575 --> 1:30:44.215
<v Speaker 3>and if you don't like the look of them when

1:30:44.255 --> 1:30:46.735
<v Speaker 3>you've sanded them, you could punch them and fill that

1:30:47.055 --> 1:30:48.375
<v Speaker 3>and that'll be fine.

1:30:49.495 --> 1:30:53.255
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, I'm not that fussy about it. And you know

1:30:53.295 --> 1:31:01.135
<v Speaker 12>they're like centers about ten so the hundreds.

1:30:59.495 --> 1:31:05.095
<v Speaker 3>I am painfully aware of the work that you are doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Someone has text through and said use pencers, but I

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<v Speaker 3>actually think that by using the vice script you might

1:31:10.255 --> 1:31:13.775
<v Speaker 3>be onto a winner there because the pencers, because they're

1:31:13.775 --> 1:31:18.575
<v Speaker 3>designed to cut through material, will often end up there's

1:31:18.575 --> 1:31:21.495
<v Speaker 3>a really fine juggling act with a set of pencers

1:31:21.535 --> 1:31:25.455
<v Speaker 3>to get enough pressure to get purchase on the material

1:31:25.535 --> 1:31:27.375
<v Speaker 3>so that you can leave it out. But if you

1:31:27.495 --> 1:31:29.895
<v Speaker 3>press too hard on the pencer, you'll just cut through

1:31:30.415 --> 1:31:32.655
<v Speaker 3>the staples. So I think using.

1:31:33.695 --> 1:31:38.935
<v Speaker 12>Idea, yeah, I went to the princers initially, that's exactly

1:31:38.975 --> 1:31:42.615
<v Speaker 12>what happened. Is it actually cut off a lot of

1:31:42.655 --> 1:31:48.575
<v Speaker 12>the staples anyway, Okay, thank you, I'll try doing the

1:31:48.615 --> 1:31:49.015
<v Speaker 12>tap bit.

1:31:49.975 --> 1:31:50.615
<v Speaker 7>I think you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks all right, much appreciate it. You take care, thank

1:31:56.855 --> 1:32:00.735
<v Speaker 3>you very much. All the best, Bob. Then that is

1:32:00.855 --> 1:32:05.175
<v Speaker 3>one completely unpleasant job, as if you you know often

1:32:08.015 --> 1:32:10.895
<v Speaker 3>so look at this text right there you go again

1:32:10.935 --> 1:32:14.695
<v Speaker 3>with your over the top caution, so annoying. Have you

1:32:14.735 --> 1:32:17.055
<v Speaker 3>ever been with someone who's died as a result of

1:32:17.215 --> 1:32:23.935
<v Speaker 3>exposure to asbestos? You probably haven't, right, So the risk

1:32:23.975 --> 1:32:27.535
<v Speaker 3>of exposure is real. So it's a sensible precaution in

1:32:27.615 --> 1:32:31.055
<v Speaker 3>my mind. If you're going to spend hours getting down

1:32:31.255 --> 1:32:33.335
<v Speaker 3>close to a material that you're going to break up

1:32:33.375 --> 1:32:37.775
<v Speaker 3>and the fibers become friable as an airborne then I

1:32:37.775 --> 1:32:42.455
<v Speaker 3>think it's a sensible precaution to test for asbestos. And

1:32:42.535 --> 1:32:46.895
<v Speaker 3>I don't believe that that's over the top so annoying. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 3>okay O eight hundred eighty ten eighty. We're going to

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<v Speaker 3>track down Rudd, which is a bit of a challenge

1:32:52.215 --> 1:32:54.335
<v Speaker 3>right now. So Rudd, time to go to the studio

1:32:54.375 --> 1:32:57.535
<v Speaker 3>Sunshine I eight hundred eighty ten eighty. If you've got

1:32:57.575 --> 1:33:01.015
<v Speaker 3>a question for Ridd, you can text through your questions

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<v Speaker 3>through as well. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

1:33:04.255 --> 1:33:07.695
<v Speaker 3>number to call. Just on that staple room. There are

1:33:07.775 --> 1:33:10.495
<v Speaker 3>staple removal tools like a little wedge that you can

1:33:10.535 --> 1:33:15.175
<v Speaker 3>get underneath the harp of the staple or the staples

1:33:15.215 --> 1:33:16.855
<v Speaker 3>go up, across and back down, so if you can

1:33:16.855 --> 1:33:19.815
<v Speaker 3>get under there, sometimes you can leave them up if

1:33:19.815 --> 1:33:22.135
<v Speaker 3>you can get under there. Often with that type of work,

1:33:22.175 --> 1:33:25.015
<v Speaker 3>where the staple is held down the board, there's actually

1:33:25.015 --> 1:33:28.095
<v Speaker 3>the remnants of the board trapped underneath the staple, hence

1:33:28.215 --> 1:33:31.415
<v Speaker 3>using pliers or pincers to get to the top of

1:33:31.455 --> 1:33:35.975
<v Speaker 3>the staple. I am so intimately involved with the removal

1:33:35.975 --> 1:33:37.935
<v Speaker 3>of staples that it disturbs me that I know this

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<v Speaker 3>much about doing them.

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<v Speaker 4>I eight hundred eighty.

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<v Speaker 3>Here we go remove the staples and breads by rocking

1:33:42.375 --> 1:33:44.775
<v Speaker 3>back and forth, and then they break off below the surface.

1:33:45.255 --> 1:33:49.895
<v Speaker 3>Interesting technique, not bad. People have obviously shared my pain

1:33:50.015 --> 1:33:53.415
<v Speaker 3>with doing this particular job. I eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll take short break. We've got rid coming up in

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<v Speaker 3>just a moment, just before we jump into the garden

1:34:08.055 --> 1:34:12.095
<v Speaker 3>with Red climb Past who's on standby. I mentioned earlier

1:34:12.215 --> 1:34:16.055
<v Speaker 3>that during the course of the week several discussions, been

1:34:16.055 --> 1:34:18.375
<v Speaker 3>to a few events and that sort of thing, and

1:34:19.015 --> 1:34:21.735
<v Speaker 3>ended up having a really good session with a young

1:34:22.295 --> 1:34:25.575
<v Speaker 3>engineer Storm who has done a lot of research on

1:34:25.775 --> 1:34:30.055
<v Speaker 3>ventilation in particular. So it's my intention sometime in the

1:34:30.055 --> 1:34:32.815
<v Speaker 3>next couple of weeks to have her join me on

1:34:32.855 --> 1:34:36.335
<v Speaker 3>the program to talk about ventilation again. It's one of

1:34:36.375 --> 1:34:38.935
<v Speaker 3>those hot button topics at the moment because people are

1:34:38.935 --> 1:34:42.655
<v Speaker 3>talking about H one in terms of the energy efficiency

1:34:42.695 --> 1:34:45.615
<v Speaker 3>and the insulation requirements, and then people are going, well,

1:34:45.655 --> 1:34:48.095
<v Speaker 3>because we're putting too much insulation at the houses, that's

1:34:48.135 --> 1:34:51.615
<v Speaker 3>why they're overheating, which is not true, by the way,

1:34:52.495 --> 1:34:56.855
<v Speaker 3>and we're starting to get understandably, but more focused on

1:34:57.215 --> 1:35:01.015
<v Speaker 3>ventilation and air quality and ventilation requirements and so on.

1:35:01.375 --> 1:35:04.695
<v Speaker 3>So it was delightful actually to sit with her and

1:35:04.695 --> 1:35:08.655
<v Speaker 3>talk for a couple of hours about insulation, insulation, insulation

1:35:08.855 --> 1:35:14.095
<v Speaker 3>and ventilation, particularly ventilation and ventilation standards and what systems work,

1:35:14.135 --> 1:35:17.175
<v Speaker 3>and negative pressure and positive pressure and so on and

1:35:17.175 --> 1:35:20.695
<v Speaker 3>so forth. So we'll take a deep dive into ventilation

1:35:21.655 --> 1:35:26.495
<v Speaker 3>in the coming weeks. Righty, oh, we have Rid on standby.

1:35:27.415 --> 1:35:30.655
<v Speaker 3>Rid's okay, we've got root, we don't have rit, we

1:35:30.695 --> 1:35:33.495
<v Speaker 3>don't have rot right now, we might swap over and

1:35:33.775 --> 1:35:36.015
<v Speaker 3>do that a slightly different way. If you've got any

1:35:36.135 --> 1:35:38.975
<v Speaker 3>questions for it, then the lines are open and the

1:35:39.055 --> 1:35:41.775
<v Speaker 3>number to call is eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1:35:41.815 --> 1:35:43.895
<v Speaker 3>You can text through as well. A couple of people

1:35:43.935 --> 1:35:48.695
<v Speaker 3>have already text through about Slimy Nostoc. Don't know anything

1:35:48.695 --> 1:35:52.295
<v Speaker 3>about that. That's why Rid's on the show spraying roses

1:35:52.375 --> 1:35:55.055
<v Speaker 3>with once they're pruned. We'll talk to Rid about that

1:35:55.175 --> 1:35:58.575
<v Speaker 3>as well. Just on the asbestos, which was the last

1:35:58.735 --> 1:36:02.695
<v Speaker 3>thing that we talked about on the program, let me

1:36:02.815 --> 1:36:04.135
<v Speaker 3>just sort this out there.

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<v Speaker 4>We go.

1:36:06.495 --> 1:36:12.695
<v Speaker 3>On the we're talking about asbestos pete where we see

1:36:12.735 --> 1:36:16.295
<v Speaker 3>floor sanders and we check every single floor that we uplift,

1:36:16.375 --> 1:36:19.695
<v Speaker 3>and about five percent contain asbestos. While the thing would

1:36:19.695 --> 1:36:21.615
<v Speaker 3>be if you want to be in that five percent

1:36:21.695 --> 1:36:24.975
<v Speaker 3>and potentially expose yourselves to something that is going to

1:36:25.015 --> 1:36:29.815
<v Speaker 3>have in detrimental impact on your health in the future. Right,

1:36:29.815 --> 1:36:32.295
<v Speaker 3>we're going to get rid sort it out. If you

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<v Speaker 3>would like to call and talk with Ridd, the lines

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<v Speaker 3>are open. Might take the break now and then we'll

1:36:37.655 --> 1:36:39.495
<v Speaker 3>come back, get Rid up and then we're into it.

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