1 00:00:06,855 --> 00:00:10,695 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resonant Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp 2 00:00:10,895 --> 00:00:13,495 Speaker 1: from News Talks ed B fifth place. 3 00:00:13,815 --> 00:00:18,015 Speaker 2: That won't be enough, unfortunately for zoe Hobbs. Not in 4 00:00:18,055 --> 00:00:21,335 Speaker 2: the top two and two others faster than her in 5 00:00:21,375 --> 00:00:25,095 Speaker 2: this semi final. It was a great start from Zoey Hobbs. 6 00:00:25,575 --> 00:00:29,015 Speaker 2: We'll check the times, but by my eye she was fifth. 7 00:00:29,175 --> 00:00:34,335 Speaker 2: Zoey Hobbs, twenty shit Terry won it. Tia Clayton there 8 00:00:34,375 --> 00:00:38,295 Speaker 2: as well. I've got Hobbs and fifth. We'll wait for 9 00:00:38,375 --> 00:00:45,055 Speaker 2: official confirmation, but Tia Clayton and twenty shit Terry fastest. 10 00:00:49,255 --> 00:00:53,375 Speaker 2: We'll check Zoey Hobbs' time. She got away well and 11 00:00:53,495 --> 00:00:55,415 Speaker 2: lane three did Zoey Hobbs. She was up with the 12 00:00:55,495 --> 00:00:59,935 Speaker 2: leaders who were Clayton and Terry, and then through fifteen 13 00:00:59,935 --> 00:01:03,095 Speaker 2: meters just a grimace on her face. Darryl Natter from 14 00:01:03,135 --> 00:01:07,735 Speaker 2: Great Britain went past her and it may be sixth 15 00:01:07,775 --> 00:01:11,055 Speaker 2: even for Zoey Hobbs. Will check the time though, to 16 00:01:11,095 --> 00:01:13,055 Speaker 2: see if she's close to that mark of hers of 17 00:01:13,135 --> 00:01:18,135 Speaker 2: ten ninety six, a national record. Sixth place for Zoey 18 00:01:18,135 --> 00:01:22,375 Speaker 2: Hobbs in the semi final. Absolutely no disgrace there even 19 00:01:22,415 --> 00:01:32,615 Speaker 2: reaching the semi is quite something. Official confirmation of Zoey 20 00:01:32,615 --> 00:01:36,095 Speaker 2: Hobbs's time eleven one three, so quite away outside her PB. 21 00:01:36,335 --> 00:01:39,975 Speaker 2: She will not progress to the final unfortunately. Tea Clayton 22 00:01:40,055 --> 00:01:42,855 Speaker 2: ten eight nine. Daryl Nita from Great Britain got up 23 00:01:42,855 --> 00:01:47,015 Speaker 2: to second in ten ninety seven, so Twanisha Terry only 24 00:01:47,055 --> 00:01:53,415 Speaker 2: going through as one of the best next Alfred Richardson Clayton, 25 00:01:53,495 --> 00:01:55,975 Speaker 2: Nita Jefferson Tether you have it. 26 00:01:56,015 --> 00:01:58,895 Speaker 3: That was live from Paris this morning. So zoe Hobbes 27 00:01:59,015 --> 00:02:02,615 Speaker 3: a fantastic achievement to achieve a semi final in the 28 00:02:02,615 --> 00:02:06,175 Speaker 3: woman's one hundred meters and phenomenal pace, I must have. 29 00:02:06,535 --> 00:02:08,735 Speaker 3: And there's been discussion. We're not going to go down 30 00:02:08,735 --> 00:02:11,895 Speaker 3: a sports talk type thing, but I was part of 31 00:02:11,935 --> 00:02:15,015 Speaker 3: a fascinating discussion the other day where people were suggesting 32 00:02:15,055 --> 00:02:18,415 Speaker 3: that we don't for us as mere immortals. And you know, 33 00:02:18,495 --> 00:02:20,335 Speaker 3: if the last time you ran the hundred meters was 34 00:02:20,375 --> 00:02:22,895 Speaker 3: when you're in the school athletics program or something like that, 35 00:02:23,735 --> 00:02:25,615 Speaker 3: you know you should really sort of line up an 36 00:02:25,655 --> 00:02:27,935 Speaker 3: average sort of runner along with these people, or an 37 00:02:27,935 --> 00:02:30,495 Speaker 3: average swimmer or something. I was watching the ten thousand 38 00:02:30,495 --> 00:02:37,175 Speaker 3: meters men's final the other day extraordinary. We will bring 39 00:02:37,215 --> 00:02:39,495 Speaker 3: you up to date. Well, we will get a little 40 00:02:39,535 --> 00:02:46,095 Speaker 3: bit sidetracked by this, but that's absolutely fine. That's not 41 00:02:46,135 --> 00:02:54,495 Speaker 3: looking good. Tom Walsh seems to have injured himself during 42 00:02:54,535 --> 00:03:00,015 Speaker 3: the shot. We'll bring you more news on that. We 43 00:03:00,095 --> 00:03:02,015 Speaker 3: might have to go to the sports team get some updates. Right, 44 00:03:02,575 --> 00:03:05,255 Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call 45 00:03:05,375 --> 00:03:07,975 Speaker 3: if you would like to to join in and discuss all. 46 00:03:08,215 --> 00:03:08,895 Speaker 4: Oh, that's right. 47 00:03:08,935 --> 00:03:11,335 Speaker 3: I was doing a task that was slightly unfamiliar to 48 00:03:11,375 --> 00:03:15,775 Speaker 3: me this week, along with the occasional observation from my 49 00:03:15,775 --> 00:03:19,855 Speaker 3: beloved as to do you know what you're doing, to 50 00:03:19,895 --> 00:03:22,535 Speaker 3: which I replied, yes, it's okay. I listened to that 51 00:03:22,575 --> 00:03:27,655 Speaker 3: guy on Sunday morning. So I was doing the taps 52 00:03:27,815 --> 00:03:31,575 Speaker 3: in the bathroom, right, which have been slowly dripping and 53 00:03:31,615 --> 00:03:34,015 Speaker 3: got harder and harder to turn on and turn off. 54 00:03:35,335 --> 00:03:38,015 Speaker 3: When we renovated our place, we put the bathroom in 55 00:03:38,135 --> 00:03:42,295 Speaker 3: probably twenty odd years ago. It all still works. It's 56 00:03:42,335 --> 00:03:44,095 Speaker 3: just that the tap was getting a little bit stiff 57 00:03:44,175 --> 00:03:47,175 Speaker 3: to turn on and off, and it was starting to drip. 58 00:03:47,335 --> 00:03:49,415 Speaker 3: That's what happens with taps, right, That's why they have 59 00:03:49,455 --> 00:03:52,015 Speaker 3: a replaceable washer in them. Turns out that the tap 60 00:03:52,135 --> 00:03:56,415 Speaker 3: was slightly more complicated than I was expecting. I've pulled 61 00:03:56,415 --> 00:03:58,855 Speaker 3: apart a number of them over the years, partly out 62 00:03:58,895 --> 00:04:02,695 Speaker 3: of curiosity. This one was unlike anything else that I'd seen, 63 00:04:02,735 --> 00:04:05,695 Speaker 3: and when I ended up on the workbench with several 64 00:04:05,775 --> 00:04:08,535 Speaker 3: parts of the tap, I did start to question my 65 00:04:08,575 --> 00:04:10,815 Speaker 3: ability to put it back together, and started to think 66 00:04:10,815 --> 00:04:12,655 Speaker 3: about whether or not I could call Jerry, who's a 67 00:04:12,655 --> 00:04:15,175 Speaker 3: plumber who lives around the corner, to sort this out. 68 00:04:15,455 --> 00:04:18,215 Speaker 3: The other thing that I did realize but pushed through 69 00:04:18,255 --> 00:04:21,855 Speaker 3: the reluctance, was it's never a wise idea to start 70 00:04:21,895 --> 00:04:26,935 Speaker 3: a job at four o'clock on a Friday afternoon. So 71 00:04:27,175 --> 00:04:29,055 Speaker 3: this was gnawing away in the back of my mind 72 00:04:29,095 --> 00:04:31,215 Speaker 3: as well. But anyway, we got there in the end, 73 00:04:32,535 --> 00:04:34,575 Speaker 3: and in fact, I was so excited by the overall 74 00:04:34,615 --> 00:04:38,135 Speaker 3: performance of the now newly refurbished, cleaned up in what 75 00:04:38,375 --> 00:04:44,335 Speaker 3: and greased tap with its complicated mechanism, that I'm quite 76 00:04:44,375 --> 00:04:47,975 Speaker 3: excited to do the pot tap on Monday. So that'll 77 00:04:48,015 --> 00:04:50,895 Speaker 3: be my task for tomorrow, rightio, Open line talkback on 78 00:04:51,055 --> 00:04:53,935 Speaker 3: all things building construction. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten 79 00:04:54,095 --> 00:04:56,615 Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call. We can talk about 80 00:04:56,815 --> 00:04:59,335 Speaker 3: Actually I had a great conversation with someone. I'll talk 81 00:04:59,335 --> 00:05:01,455 Speaker 3: about it bit later on about ventilation. 82 00:05:02,535 --> 00:05:05,535 Speaker 4: I know. Actually it was really very exciting. 83 00:05:06,295 --> 00:05:08,535 Speaker 3: We also had the opportunity this week to tag along 84 00:05:08,655 --> 00:05:12,095 Speaker 3: with some guys from Apex Boots that I do some 85 00:05:12,135 --> 00:05:16,135 Speaker 3: work with to the Miter ten expo, so they have 86 00:05:16,455 --> 00:05:21,335 Speaker 3: an exhibitor's expo every year. And then I was lucky 87 00:05:21,455 --> 00:05:26,335 Speaker 3: enough to attend the gala dinner in Hamilton on Wednesday 88 00:05:26,415 --> 00:05:29,495 Speaker 3: night with the people from Mite to ten. So I 89 00:05:29,535 --> 00:05:32,295 Speaker 3: think it was almost one thousand people, one thousand delegates. 90 00:05:32,295 --> 00:05:34,055 Speaker 3: So these are the people that own the stores, These 91 00:05:34,095 --> 00:05:37,415 Speaker 3: are the people that supply into the stores, the support office, 92 00:05:37,455 --> 00:05:41,535 Speaker 3: the executive team, the cooperative and the chair and the 93 00:05:41,615 --> 00:05:45,895 Speaker 3: chief executive and a very swanky and very entertaining gala 94 00:05:45,935 --> 00:05:51,575 Speaker 3: dinner and prize giving at Claudland's Globbox on Wednesday night. 95 00:05:51,735 --> 00:05:54,975 Speaker 3: So my thanks to them for their hospitality. It was 96 00:05:55,015 --> 00:05:58,695 Speaker 3: a fantastic evening and quite an interesting insight into a 97 00:05:58,815 --> 00:06:01,495 Speaker 3: very very large business when it comes to New Zealand. 98 00:06:01,535 --> 00:06:06,615 Speaker 3: So revenue two point two billion dollars goes through Minor 99 00:06:06,695 --> 00:06:10,815 Speaker 3: ten stores. It's remarkable and a tremendous bunch of people, 100 00:06:10,815 --> 00:06:12,655 Speaker 3: to be fair, So thanks very much for your company 101 00:06:12,975 --> 00:06:15,735 Speaker 3: or for letting me join you on at might a 102 00:06:15,855 --> 00:06:17,695 Speaker 3: Tens gala on Wednesday night. 103 00:06:17,975 --> 00:06:19,095 Speaker 4: Rightio, let's get into it. 104 00:06:19,135 --> 00:06:21,455 Speaker 3: If you've got a progrem project that. 105 00:06:21,535 --> 00:06:24,415 Speaker 4: Is well, like mine, a little bit a little bit. 106 00:06:24,815 --> 00:06:26,775 Speaker 3: Uncertain as to what the outcome is going to be 107 00:06:27,015 --> 00:06:28,495 Speaker 3: and you want to talk about it, or you've got 108 00:06:28,495 --> 00:06:30,375 Speaker 3: a project that you're thinking about, or you've got a 109 00:06:30,375 --> 00:06:33,775 Speaker 3: project that's just turned into an absolute disaster that you 110 00:06:33,815 --> 00:06:36,855 Speaker 3: want to ask questions about and issues around contractors. 111 00:06:36,855 --> 00:06:38,415 Speaker 4: I've sort of replied to a couple. 112 00:06:38,255 --> 00:06:41,135 Speaker 3: Of emails this week where people have struggled with the 113 00:06:41,655 --> 00:06:44,895 Speaker 3: quality of the contractors that they've engaged and what do 114 00:06:44,935 --> 00:06:47,615 Speaker 3: you do about that? Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty 115 00:06:47,735 --> 00:06:49,615 Speaker 3: is the number to call. We will keep one eye 116 00:06:49,615 --> 00:06:53,215 Speaker 3: on the Olympics as well. I have to say, not 117 00:06:53,295 --> 00:06:55,935 Speaker 3: looking particularly good for Tom Walsh. Looked like he was 118 00:06:55,975 --> 00:06:58,975 Speaker 3: in a great deal of pain after his last throw. 119 00:06:59,255 --> 00:07:01,175 Speaker 3: So we'll try and bring you more information on that 120 00:07:01,255 --> 00:07:03,735 Speaker 3: peat Wolf camp here at Newstalks there'd beat lines are open. 121 00:07:03,975 --> 00:07:06,255 Speaker 3: The number eight hundred eighty ten eighty. You can tell 122 00:07:06,575 --> 00:07:10,015 Speaker 3: that's nine two nine two was ABZB from your mobile phone. 123 00:07:10,095 --> 00:07:12,175 Speaker 3: And if you'd like to email me, it's Pete at 124 00:07:12,255 --> 00:07:14,975 Speaker 3: newstalksb dot Co dot Nz. But the lines are free 125 00:07:15,095 --> 00:07:17,255 Speaker 3: right now. We always get busy later in the show, 126 00:07:17,295 --> 00:07:19,255 Speaker 3: so now it's a great time to call. Eight hundred 127 00:07:19,255 --> 00:07:21,695 Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty you a news talks heb Pete 128 00:07:21,695 --> 00:07:24,735 Speaker 3: wolf Camp with you open line on all things building construction. 129 00:07:24,895 --> 00:07:26,535 Speaker 3: A very good morning to you, Paul. 130 00:07:27,615 --> 00:07:28,815 Speaker 5: Oh, good morning to morning. 131 00:07:32,175 --> 00:07:33,815 Speaker 6: I needed a staw bench and I went down to 132 00:07:33,815 --> 00:07:35,295 Speaker 6: mine at ten and got one and brought it at 133 00:07:35,295 --> 00:07:37,055 Speaker 6: home and all this is a good looking staw bench 134 00:07:37,055 --> 00:07:39,735 Speaker 6: for two hundred ninety nine and black in deca right, 135 00:07:40,815 --> 00:07:44,375 Speaker 6: And I put the guard on it and it flew 136 00:07:44,375 --> 00:07:47,055 Speaker 6: off when I started at that, so I thought, well, 137 00:07:47,135 --> 00:07:48,735 Speaker 6: must have done that wrong, So I put it on 138 00:07:48,815 --> 00:07:51,735 Speaker 6: again and checked it as the book said, I put 139 00:07:51,735 --> 00:07:54,575 Speaker 6: it on correctly, put another bit of timber stirt and 140 00:07:54,575 --> 00:07:57,415 Speaker 6: it flew off again. So I took it back to 141 00:07:57,455 --> 00:07:58,975 Speaker 6: my out of ten and they said, oh, there's nothing 142 00:07:58,975 --> 00:08:01,255 Speaker 6: wrong with that, all right, and you have a look 143 00:08:01,255 --> 00:08:02,495 Speaker 6: at it, and I'll come back in the next day. 144 00:08:02,975 --> 00:08:05,215 Speaker 6: And the next day you had a bit of Timber 145 00:08:05,255 --> 00:08:07,935 Speaker 6: City by thirty and about a foot foot or too wrong. 146 00:08:07,975 --> 00:08:10,695 Speaker 6: And he cuts through that his note words perfectly, and 147 00:08:10,775 --> 00:08:13,135 Speaker 6: I says, no, it doesn't And I just ripped just 148 00:08:13,135 --> 00:08:15,415 Speaker 6: by putting my hand. Well it was twitched off, of course. 149 00:08:15,895 --> 00:08:19,015 Speaker 6: I just pushed my hand up and off came the guard. 150 00:08:19,735 --> 00:08:22,095 Speaker 6: And I says that there's two faults of this. The 151 00:08:22,255 --> 00:08:24,695 Speaker 6: on off switch is covered by a flat. Now a 152 00:08:24,775 --> 00:08:27,055 Speaker 6: child will look at and see them stairdy working on it, 153 00:08:27,095 --> 00:08:29,575 Speaker 6: would look up that flat, press the go button and 154 00:08:29,735 --> 00:08:31,535 Speaker 6: allays that spinny thing and then put their hands to 155 00:08:31,575 --> 00:08:32,615 Speaker 6: it and they would lose their hands. 156 00:08:33,695 --> 00:08:36,535 Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's really about how you control your workspace, 157 00:08:36,615 --> 00:08:38,575 Speaker 3: to be fair, And I'll tell you a story about that. 158 00:08:39,775 --> 00:08:43,095 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a very bad sword to have a home, 159 00:08:43,135 --> 00:08:46,255 Speaker 6: you know. And so they don't think it's faulty. So 160 00:08:46,295 --> 00:08:48,335 Speaker 6: I rang up the Commerce Commission and then got onto ITOUN. 161 00:08:48,415 --> 00:08:49,775 Speaker 6: So there may be a recall of them. 162 00:08:50,015 --> 00:08:52,855 Speaker 3: Okay, look, I'm to be fair. I'm not actually interested 163 00:08:52,895 --> 00:08:58,615 Speaker 3: in slinging off tools, right. I understand where you're coming from. 164 00:08:58,655 --> 00:09:03,455 Speaker 3: And obviously safety is phenomenally important when it comes to 165 00:09:03,655 --> 00:09:07,455 Speaker 3: two power tools. Yeah, I guess too. There's there's a 166 00:09:07,775 --> 00:09:09,975 Speaker 3: I mean, how much research did you do in terms 167 00:09:10,015 --> 00:09:13,575 Speaker 3: of selecting a table saw, and like, what sorts of 168 00:09:13,695 --> 00:09:15,735 Speaker 3: tasks will you do with your table saw? 169 00:09:17,095 --> 00:09:19,575 Speaker 6: Well, with the table saw, I've got to build a 170 00:09:19,615 --> 00:09:23,535 Speaker 6: new book. Thinks cup tops cut things up? And as yeah, 171 00:09:24,975 --> 00:09:27,975 Speaker 6: I only found out of about eight there, I only 172 00:09:27,975 --> 00:09:30,295 Speaker 6: found one that had a steel guard that would not 173 00:09:30,415 --> 00:09:34,255 Speaker 6: move right would move, and I thought, this is not right. 174 00:09:34,815 --> 00:09:36,975 Speaker 6: And even the one that had the good guard only 175 00:09:36,975 --> 00:09:39,695 Speaker 6: had a flip cover on the on off switch. And 176 00:09:39,775 --> 00:09:42,295 Speaker 6: little kids are very excited around tools and very interested 177 00:09:42,335 --> 00:09:44,055 Speaker 6: in things, especially a little. 178 00:09:43,815 --> 00:09:44,375 Speaker 4: More I know. 179 00:09:44,415 --> 00:09:49,015 Speaker 3: But again, and look, I've got a young son, and 180 00:09:49,135 --> 00:09:51,775 Speaker 3: I've got a table saw, and I can remember a 181 00:09:51,815 --> 00:09:54,495 Speaker 3: time years ago when I was working in the shed 182 00:09:54,535 --> 00:09:58,615 Speaker 3: and I had the table saw set up, thankfully, with 183 00:09:58,695 --> 00:10:01,175 Speaker 3: the blade down and all the rest of it, and 184 00:10:01,295 --> 00:10:04,615 Speaker 3: my little eye wandered and was looking around and curious 185 00:10:04,655 --> 00:10:07,055 Speaker 3: and so on, and he flicked a switch on the 186 00:10:07,095 --> 00:10:10,175 Speaker 3: table saw and it started. Now he was standing reasonably 187 00:10:10,175 --> 00:10:12,015 Speaker 3: way back and all the rest of it. So I 188 00:10:12,055 --> 00:10:16,015 Speaker 3: know exactly what you mean. It's scared the living daylights 189 00:10:16,055 --> 00:10:18,415 Speaker 3: out of him. And to be fair, it's scared the 190 00:10:18,415 --> 00:10:21,815 Speaker 3: living daylights out of me too. But you know, in 191 00:10:21,855 --> 00:10:24,135 Speaker 3: the end, if you're going to let children into a workspace, 192 00:10:24,175 --> 00:10:26,255 Speaker 3: that's your responsibility, not the tool owners. 193 00:10:27,015 --> 00:10:28,135 Speaker 6: Well he's at home, you know. 194 00:10:28,575 --> 00:10:31,735 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. But ultimately it's your responsibility, not the taller. 195 00:10:31,975 --> 00:10:33,855 Speaker 3: So what are you going to do? Wait for the 196 00:10:33,975 --> 00:10:35,655 Speaker 3: com com to tell you. 197 00:10:35,615 --> 00:10:36,055 Speaker 4: What to do? 198 00:10:37,175 --> 00:10:38,975 Speaker 6: What I did is I rang up the Commerce Commission 199 00:10:39,015 --> 00:10:41,175 Speaker 6: and they're looking into it. They say they could be 200 00:10:41,175 --> 00:10:41,975 Speaker 6: a product recall. 201 00:10:42,895 --> 00:10:45,415 Speaker 3: Yeah, well look, and you know, if the guard's not 202 00:10:45,455 --> 00:10:48,055 Speaker 3: supposed to come off and it does, then that's obviously 203 00:10:49,055 --> 00:10:49,775 Speaker 3: not accepted and. 204 00:10:49,775 --> 00:10:52,655 Speaker 6: The other switch should be protected. Well ahead was a 205 00:10:52,655 --> 00:10:54,335 Speaker 6: flat that went over? That's all here. 206 00:10:54,415 --> 00:10:56,535 Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's enough, isn't it. I mean, what else would. 207 00:10:56,375 --> 00:10:56,775 Speaker 4: You want to do? 208 00:10:57,095 --> 00:10:59,135 Speaker 6: No, that's not enough because kids look up there. 209 00:11:00,015 --> 00:11:02,575 Speaker 3: Again, kids shouldn't be in the workshop if they're not supervised. 210 00:11:03,375 --> 00:11:05,175 Speaker 6: I mean it could be or could be in the 211 00:11:05,215 --> 00:11:06,255 Speaker 6: workshop if either. 212 00:11:06,095 --> 00:11:10,335 Speaker 3: One either way either way A flap over this that, 213 00:11:10,735 --> 00:11:12,215 Speaker 3: I mean the way that I would look at it 214 00:11:12,295 --> 00:11:14,215 Speaker 3: is And I'm just trying to think. My sword doesn't 215 00:11:14,215 --> 00:11:16,855 Speaker 3: even have a flap over the guard right over the 216 00:11:17,375 --> 00:11:19,895 Speaker 3: on off switch. The on off switch is simply a toggle. 217 00:11:20,295 --> 00:11:21,975 Speaker 3: You lift it up to start it and you press 218 00:11:21,975 --> 00:11:24,495 Speaker 3: it down to turn it off. Right, So it's easy 219 00:11:24,495 --> 00:11:29,375 Speaker 3: to turn off. And that's that that prevents you exit 220 00:11:29,415 --> 00:11:33,215 Speaker 3: because you have to lift the trigger on up. It 221 00:11:33,295 --> 00:11:38,615 Speaker 3: stops you inadvertently bumping it. Yep, right, So I think 222 00:11:38,615 --> 00:11:41,575 Speaker 3: that's safe enough. I don't think you need a cover 223 00:11:41,895 --> 00:11:43,775 Speaker 3: with a switch underneath it. I mean I've got another 224 00:11:44,455 --> 00:11:45,535 Speaker 3: some other power tools. 225 00:11:46,015 --> 00:11:49,335 Speaker 6: It needs to have the cover that you can lock switch. 226 00:11:50,335 --> 00:11:55,295 Speaker 3: No, no, no, then I disagree with you. 227 00:11:56,175 --> 00:11:57,975 Speaker 7: Okay, all right, then I'll agree with you. 228 00:11:58,055 --> 00:12:00,535 Speaker 6: I'll like to leave that on off switch available to suppress. 229 00:12:01,575 --> 00:12:05,135 Speaker 3: Well, no, I'm saying to you that ultimately, responsibility in 230 00:12:05,575 --> 00:12:08,535 Speaker 3: workshops is up to the owner, right and to your 231 00:12:08,575 --> 00:12:13,855 Speaker 3: person responsible. So having a lockable switch on power tools 232 00:12:14,055 --> 00:12:21,215 Speaker 3: is not required it it is the manufacturers. 233 00:12:21,215 --> 00:12:23,895 Speaker 6: The manufacturers should not have let it get through the testing. 234 00:12:24,055 --> 00:12:26,415 Speaker 3: No, that's one hundred percent disagree with you. 235 00:12:27,415 --> 00:12:29,095 Speaker 6: Okay, okay mate, we'll just leave it there. 236 00:12:29,135 --> 00:12:31,095 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, much appreciate it. Thanks for the call 237 00:12:31,775 --> 00:12:36,095 Speaker 3: much and you take care. There is a thing called 238 00:12:36,135 --> 00:12:39,495 Speaker 3: personal responsibility. That's where I'm coming from. Sows and power 239 00:12:39,495 --> 00:12:42,175 Speaker 3: tools need to be safe, but they are also power 240 00:12:42,255 --> 00:12:44,695 Speaker 3: tools designed for use, and they don't need to have 241 00:12:44,775 --> 00:12:48,535 Speaker 3: lockable covers on them in my opinion, Oh, eight hundred 242 00:12:48,615 --> 00:12:50,935 Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call Joe. 243 00:12:50,975 --> 00:12:54,215 Speaker 5: Good morning, Good morning, Peter. 244 00:12:55,375 --> 00:12:58,575 Speaker 8: We're in the process of building a garage and we've 245 00:12:58,615 --> 00:13:02,615 Speaker 8: got our firewall. Is a block wall, and it's filled 246 00:13:02,615 --> 00:13:06,775 Speaker 8: with concrete. Yes, we had a big grain for about 247 00:13:06,775 --> 00:13:09,415 Speaker 8: three or four days here and some of the water 248 00:13:09,535 --> 00:13:13,135 Speaker 8: has seeped through. So we just need to know what 249 00:13:13,215 --> 00:13:16,055 Speaker 8: product do we use to see all the X year 250 00:13:16,175 --> 00:13:19,255 Speaker 8: the outside of it to prevent the water coming through. 251 00:13:22,655 --> 00:13:25,335 Speaker 3: I'm really curious because over the years I would have 252 00:13:25,375 --> 00:13:28,735 Speaker 3: had tens, if not hundreds of questions very much like yours, 253 00:13:28,775 --> 00:13:32,735 Speaker 3: but typically they're about, you know, a nineteen seventies block 254 00:13:32,775 --> 00:13:35,735 Speaker 3: wall or something like that. So a new block wall 255 00:13:36,935 --> 00:13:40,815 Speaker 3: that's solid filled as ' grouted and it's sitting I 256 00:13:40,895 --> 00:13:44,655 Speaker 3: presume on a concrete slab yep. And the concrete slab 257 00:13:44,775 --> 00:13:49,055 Speaker 3: is not in the ground as a retaining wall, or 258 00:13:49,695 --> 00:13:55,095 Speaker 3: the wall's not a retaining wall as such. No, is 259 00:13:55,135 --> 00:13:57,015 Speaker 3: the building finished and it's leaking. 260 00:13:59,055 --> 00:14:00,895 Speaker 8: Yeah, we're just about there, yep. 261 00:14:01,775 --> 00:14:05,575 Speaker 3: So all the down pipes, flashing, spouting, everything. 262 00:14:05,255 --> 00:14:07,175 Speaker 4: Is right, Okay. 263 00:14:11,135 --> 00:14:13,775 Speaker 3: I am quite curious as to where that leak might 264 00:14:13,815 --> 00:14:17,815 Speaker 3: be coming from, because it would require a lot of 265 00:14:17,855 --> 00:14:22,415 Speaker 3: water to force its way through what is effectively one 266 00:14:22,455 --> 00:14:26,135 Speaker 3: hundred and ninety mili block that's then grouted if it's 267 00:14:26,215 --> 00:14:31,415 Speaker 3: solid filled. Right, So, potentially do the block sit on 268 00:14:31,535 --> 00:14:34,455 Speaker 3: top of the concrete slab or do the blocks extend 269 00:14:34,895 --> 00:14:38,615 Speaker 3: from the foundations up and the slab is cast into 270 00:14:38,655 --> 00:14:39,255 Speaker 3: the side of. 271 00:14:39,215 --> 00:14:41,575 Speaker 9: It if you record out of it, on top of it. 272 00:14:41,535 --> 00:14:44,215 Speaker 4: They sit on top of right? And where are you 273 00:14:44,295 --> 00:14:45,055 Speaker 4: seeing the water? 274 00:14:46,055 --> 00:14:50,135 Speaker 8: Most of the water was down the bottom. 275 00:14:49,935 --> 00:14:52,855 Speaker 3: Down the bottom at that junction between the slab. 276 00:14:54,015 --> 00:14:57,295 Speaker 8: Yeah, and there was a little, just a little, a 277 00:14:57,335 --> 00:14:59,295 Speaker 8: couple of little pitches sort of midway up. 278 00:14:59,495 --> 00:14:59,975 Speaker 4: Yeah. 279 00:15:00,015 --> 00:15:02,015 Speaker 3: And the block wall is it only one wall and 280 00:15:02,055 --> 00:15:04,415 Speaker 3: then the other walls are timber framed that sort of thing. 281 00:15:05,175 --> 00:15:06,855 Speaker 4: Or is the whole garage block wall? 282 00:15:07,575 --> 00:15:10,015 Speaker 8: No, just the one, just the one wall. 283 00:15:10,215 --> 00:15:10,415 Speaker 10: Yeah. 284 00:15:11,255 --> 00:15:13,095 Speaker 3: I mean, look, I think you should be talking to 285 00:15:13,455 --> 00:15:17,215 Speaker 3: the builder and go, hey, look what's the plan here. 286 00:15:17,255 --> 00:15:19,295 Speaker 3: The other thing is obviously this work. If it's a 287 00:15:19,335 --> 00:15:22,255 Speaker 3: block wall and it's required for fire rating, the work 288 00:15:22,295 --> 00:15:25,095 Speaker 3: will have a building consent be interesting to have a 289 00:15:25,135 --> 00:15:28,015 Speaker 3: look on the building consent to see what is required 290 00:15:28,055 --> 00:15:34,335 Speaker 3: on the exterior typically for and I've seen unpainted masonry 291 00:15:34,415 --> 00:15:38,735 Speaker 3: walls not lead in water for decades, right, So I 292 00:15:38,775 --> 00:15:43,655 Speaker 3: am genuinely a little bit surprised. But I would say, look, 293 00:15:44,295 --> 00:15:46,095 Speaker 3: have a talk to the builder, Talk to them about 294 00:15:46,135 --> 00:15:48,335 Speaker 3: what flashings might still need to go on, where the 295 00:15:48,375 --> 00:15:50,295 Speaker 3: spouting has to go on, down pipes have to go on, 296 00:15:50,375 --> 00:15:52,815 Speaker 3: that sort of thing. That might actually solve the problem. 297 00:15:53,015 --> 00:15:54,935 Speaker 3: But the other thing is just in general, what you 298 00:15:54,975 --> 00:15:59,255 Speaker 3: can do is seal the masonry wall, So seal the 299 00:15:59,255 --> 00:16:03,495 Speaker 3: blocks on the exterior with preferably a pigmented sealer so 300 00:16:03,775 --> 00:16:08,255 Speaker 3: something like shore Seal right from razine, and then paint 301 00:16:08,255 --> 00:16:13,495 Speaker 3: it with X two hundred, which is essentially a waterproofing 302 00:16:13,615 --> 00:16:18,375 Speaker 3: paint right designed specifically for masonry surfaces, so you can 303 00:16:18,455 --> 00:16:21,095 Speaker 3: use it on plaster, you can use it on blocks, 304 00:16:21,135 --> 00:16:24,775 Speaker 3: et cetera. And that will give you a waterproof membrane 305 00:16:24,815 --> 00:16:28,175 Speaker 3: on the exterior of there, and that will seal up 306 00:16:28,215 --> 00:16:31,535 Speaker 3: any minor pores and bits and pieces where water might 307 00:16:31,535 --> 00:16:34,135 Speaker 3: be coming through. But I would still have a serious 308 00:16:34,175 --> 00:16:37,135 Speaker 3: discussion with the builder about what flashings need to be 309 00:16:37,175 --> 00:16:41,215 Speaker 3: done where the drainage goes. And I presume the ground 310 00:16:41,295 --> 00:16:43,455 Speaker 3: level on the outside of the block will isn't going 311 00:16:43,495 --> 00:16:45,695 Speaker 3: to be elevated. It's not like there's a requirement to 312 00:16:45,735 --> 00:16:50,175 Speaker 3: do waterproofing there or anything like that. Okay, Yeah, have 313 00:16:50,215 --> 00:16:52,575 Speaker 3: a look on the consent too, because it may well 314 00:16:52,615 --> 00:16:56,415 Speaker 3: specify that the wall needs to be painted, and it 315 00:16:56,495 --> 00:16:58,455 Speaker 3: might specify a particular product. 316 00:16:58,935 --> 00:17:02,015 Speaker 4: Okay, alrighty, okay, let us know how you get on. Alrighty, 317 00:17:02,055 --> 00:17:02,495 Speaker 4: take care. 318 00:17:08,695 --> 00:17:10,935 Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call? 319 00:17:11,175 --> 00:17:13,455 Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine to two ninety two 320 00:17:13,455 --> 00:17:16,495 Speaker 3: on the text. A couple of interesting texts coming through 321 00:17:19,135 --> 00:17:20,935 Speaker 3: with regard to our first call it to be fair 322 00:17:21,135 --> 00:17:23,055 Speaker 3: I eight hundred eighty ten eighty. We'll take a short 323 00:17:23,055 --> 00:17:24,895 Speaker 3: break back with Dean in a moment. If you'd like 324 00:17:24,935 --> 00:17:28,735 Speaker 3: to join us. The lines are open. Some fascinating texts 325 00:17:28,735 --> 00:17:32,495 Speaker 3: coming in off the back of Paul's comments, not so 326 00:17:32,615 --> 00:17:36,495 Speaker 3: much necessarily about the particular choice of tool and all 327 00:17:36,535 --> 00:17:40,455 Speaker 3: the rest of it, just around attitudes to safety and look, 328 00:17:40,495 --> 00:17:43,775 Speaker 3: we all work at home, right. If you're listening to 329 00:17:43,815 --> 00:17:47,455 Speaker 3: the show, chances are you've you've done some work. You 330 00:17:47,535 --> 00:17:49,815 Speaker 3: might have used a ladder, or you've had a couple 331 00:17:49,855 --> 00:17:52,455 Speaker 3: of sawhorses with a plank on it, or you've had 332 00:17:53,415 --> 00:17:56,175 Speaker 3: a sander that you've used to strip back some timber, 333 00:17:56,375 --> 00:17:58,415 Speaker 3: or in some case you might have a power tool, 334 00:17:58,775 --> 00:18:01,575 Speaker 3: a drill or a driver, or a multi tool, or 335 00:18:01,615 --> 00:18:05,335 Speaker 3: a jigsaw, or a receip saw or a chainsaw, or 336 00:18:05,375 --> 00:18:08,815 Speaker 3: a weed eater or a motor motor motama. Sorry, you 337 00:18:08,855 --> 00:18:12,215 Speaker 3: know all of these items, right. If we're this whole 338 00:18:12,255 --> 00:18:14,255 Speaker 3: show is about doing it yourself, right, So if you're 339 00:18:14,255 --> 00:18:16,175 Speaker 3: going to do it yourself, you're probably gonna mean it. 340 00:18:16,815 --> 00:18:20,095 Speaker 3: I was sharpening chisels on Friday, right, chisels are well 341 00:18:20,375 --> 00:18:23,215 Speaker 3: sharp now because I sharpened them. You know all of 342 00:18:23,255 --> 00:18:25,615 Speaker 3: these things, And I have to say in my own head, 343 00:18:25,735 --> 00:18:29,815 Speaker 3: I often have to consciously remind myself when I'm using 344 00:18:29,855 --> 00:18:33,615 Speaker 3: a table saw or saw bench. I've got to remember 345 00:18:33,615 --> 00:18:35,615 Speaker 3: that this thing wants to take my bits off, right, 346 00:18:35,655 --> 00:18:37,455 Speaker 3: It wants to take my finger off if I get 347 00:18:37,455 --> 00:18:40,935 Speaker 3: too close to that blade. And I know guys who 348 00:18:40,935 --> 00:18:45,175 Speaker 3: have lost either whole fingers, parts of fingers, parts of 349 00:18:45,335 --> 00:18:50,055 Speaker 3: thumbs and that sort of thing. You know, you do 350 00:18:50,095 --> 00:18:52,135 Speaker 3: you have to keep that presence of mind to go 351 00:18:52,695 --> 00:18:55,055 Speaker 3: that blade. If it's cutting that piece of timber that 352 00:18:55,095 --> 00:18:58,335 Speaker 3: I'm watching go through the blade, then it's not going 353 00:18:58,415 --> 00:19:03,215 Speaker 3: to have a problem with one of my digits. But 354 00:19:03,535 --> 00:19:10,135 Speaker 3: that's about your own presence of mind, your own awareness 355 00:19:10,815 --> 00:19:15,015 Speaker 3: of the situation, and your own control around health and 356 00:19:15,055 --> 00:19:18,975 Speaker 3: safety and proper practices around power tools, all of which 357 00:19:19,175 --> 00:19:20,335 Speaker 3: will hurt you if you. 358 00:19:20,255 --> 00:19:20,855 Speaker 4: Don't use them. 359 00:19:20,855 --> 00:19:23,335 Speaker 3: Well, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number 360 00:19:23,375 --> 00:19:27,015 Speaker 3: to call Dean. Good morning, Good Dane. 361 00:19:26,815 --> 00:19:27,375 Speaker 7: Morning Pete. 362 00:19:27,455 --> 00:19:30,775 Speaker 10: Yep, sorry, mate, just said the microphone in the wrong place. Yeah, 363 00:19:30,775 --> 00:19:34,335 Speaker 10: couldn't agree. Couldn't agree more. Our tools are dangerous, inherently dangerous. 364 00:19:34,975 --> 00:19:38,015 Speaker 3: Look like, I was looking at some gear the other day, 365 00:19:38,015 --> 00:19:41,535 Speaker 3: and I've got some stuff which has real, you know, 366 00:19:41,895 --> 00:19:45,215 Speaker 3: additional safety features that are really useful. So a grinder 367 00:19:45,255 --> 00:19:49,855 Speaker 3: that I use, for example, has a mechanism and it's 368 00:19:49,855 --> 00:19:52,495 Speaker 3: beyond me to explain it. That means that when you 369 00:19:52,775 --> 00:19:54,975 Speaker 3: overtalk it. 370 00:19:54,295 --> 00:19:55,855 Speaker 4: It will stop. Right. 371 00:19:55,935 --> 00:19:59,775 Speaker 3: So if you're cutting, let's say, with a grinder, and 372 00:19:59,975 --> 00:20:02,775 Speaker 3: you're pressing too hard, you've twisted the blade and you're 373 00:20:02,815 --> 00:20:07,695 Speaker 3: putting too much pressure onto the cutting, it will trip out. Now, 374 00:20:07,695 --> 00:20:10,775 Speaker 3: that's useful because typically the next stage after that is 375 00:20:10,815 --> 00:20:13,415 Speaker 3: it will kick back right, and that's dangerous. And I 376 00:20:13,575 --> 00:20:16,215 Speaker 3: was looking at some gear the other day where they 377 00:20:16,255 --> 00:20:20,335 Speaker 3: had that feature into a drill and again the same thing. 378 00:20:20,415 --> 00:20:23,815 Speaker 3: I have a small fracture on my left wrist where 379 00:20:23,895 --> 00:20:25,615 Speaker 3: the drill I was using when I was drilling through 380 00:20:25,615 --> 00:20:29,695 Speaker 3: a steel bean bit and the drill just dragged my 381 00:20:29,855 --> 00:20:33,295 Speaker 3: arm around and cracked it into the steel to the 382 00:20:33,375 --> 00:20:36,255 Speaker 3: edge of an ee bean and hey, presto, there's a 383 00:20:36,255 --> 00:20:38,495 Speaker 3: small little fracture there. Us kind of wondering why it 384 00:20:38,575 --> 00:20:40,775 Speaker 3: hurts so much. But anyway, so you know, I mean, 385 00:20:41,095 --> 00:20:43,775 Speaker 3: I think it's great that there are additional safety features 386 00:20:43,815 --> 00:20:47,975 Speaker 3: in power tools, but ultimately, if it's your workspace, you're 387 00:20:48,055 --> 00:20:51,775 Speaker 3: responsible for who's there and their competency and your own, 388 00:20:51,975 --> 00:20:55,695 Speaker 3: is my opinion. Yeah, anyway, that's not probably what we were 389 00:20:55,615 --> 00:20:56,495 Speaker 3: going to talk about, Deane. 390 00:20:56,495 --> 00:20:57,135 Speaker 4: Tell me what's. 391 00:20:58,575 --> 00:21:02,855 Speaker 10: So We're getting a house very extensively re roosted and hated, right, 392 00:21:03,215 --> 00:21:08,215 Speaker 10: and it's a house, and so well, the scaffolds. It's 393 00:21:08,215 --> 00:21:10,135 Speaker 10: been suggested that I should replace the gathering. 394 00:21:10,535 --> 00:21:12,295 Speaker 4: Yep, sounds sensible. 395 00:21:12,415 --> 00:21:17,135 Speaker 10: It's yeah, the gathering's okay, it doesn't really need to 396 00:21:17,175 --> 00:21:19,775 Speaker 10: be replaced, but you know it probably will sometime the 397 00:21:19,815 --> 00:21:25,095 Speaker 10: next ten years or so. Sure, So my question is basically, 398 00:21:25,335 --> 00:21:29,535 Speaker 10: how much does it cost to head flash windows? And 399 00:21:29,575 --> 00:21:31,775 Speaker 10: how much does it cost to put gathering on in 400 00:21:31,855 --> 00:21:36,855 Speaker 10: your experience? Okay, so the scaffolding is already up, so 401 00:21:36,895 --> 00:21:39,855 Speaker 10: you know that cost has already been absorbed. Yes, we're 402 00:21:39,935 --> 00:21:44,295 Speaker 10: so nothing additional there. So we have sixteen head flashings, 403 00:21:44,575 --> 00:21:47,335 Speaker 10: some of which are very definitely marginal. I mean, the 404 00:21:47,375 --> 00:21:51,335 Speaker 10: house is one hundred years old, so okay, time with you, yep, yep. 405 00:21:51,415 --> 00:21:54,575 Speaker 10: So basically we have sixteen of these things that could 406 00:21:54,615 --> 00:21:57,295 Speaker 10: be replaced. What does it cost to replace a head 407 00:21:57,335 --> 00:21:59,815 Speaker 10: flashing on a window? As a ballpark figure? 408 00:22:00,855 --> 00:22:03,735 Speaker 3: A couple of questions for exterior clading is a weatherboard 409 00:22:03,855 --> 00:22:06,895 Speaker 3: and a traditional style weatherboard or a rusticided board? 410 00:22:08,255 --> 00:22:10,215 Speaker 10: No, just traditional, okay, all right? 411 00:22:10,495 --> 00:22:12,895 Speaker 3: And so the head flashing sits over the top of 412 00:22:13,015 --> 00:22:16,855 Speaker 3: the facings. There's probably a little like a headboard that's 413 00:22:16,895 --> 00:22:20,175 Speaker 3: slightly sloped and timber, and then the flashing itself sits 414 00:22:20,215 --> 00:22:23,335 Speaker 3: over that and then tucks up to the underneath the 415 00:22:23,335 --> 00:22:26,215 Speaker 3: board above, so it's not recessed into the timber. 416 00:22:27,775 --> 00:22:31,295 Speaker 10: No, it's not recessed or it is the old style 417 00:22:32,095 --> 00:22:34,935 Speaker 10: pete I imagined. You know, you've got your window projecting 418 00:22:34,935 --> 00:22:36,855 Speaker 10: out to right, You've got a weather ball behind it, 419 00:22:36,895 --> 00:22:38,935 Speaker 10: and there's a flashing that sits on it weather board 420 00:22:39,015 --> 00:22:42,815 Speaker 10: and folds over the window, and it's it. Yes, yeah, 421 00:22:42,855 --> 00:22:46,095 Speaker 10: it might it might lodge into the weather board above 422 00:22:46,175 --> 00:22:49,775 Speaker 10: the weather board above the window. Yeah, yeah, yep. 423 00:22:50,895 --> 00:22:52,655 Speaker 4: Basically yeah, Okay. 424 00:22:52,495 --> 00:22:55,095 Speaker 10: What could you expect to pay peer flashing to take 425 00:22:55,135 --> 00:22:58,055 Speaker 10: the old one off? You know, you know, you cramp 426 00:22:58,095 --> 00:23:00,415 Speaker 10: a new one presumably, and then put the new one on. 427 00:23:01,055 --> 00:23:03,895 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just thinking about that. Like, let's say 428 00:23:03,935 --> 00:23:07,375 Speaker 3: you've well one, chances are the flesh won't be standard, right, 429 00:23:07,415 --> 00:23:10,055 Speaker 3: so you have to go to site measure probably each 430 00:23:10,135 --> 00:23:13,215 Speaker 3: window and get them folded up. So that's going to 431 00:23:13,255 --> 00:23:15,855 Speaker 3: cost you, you know, a couple of hours of work, 432 00:23:16,055 --> 00:23:19,295 Speaker 3: and then the flashings, the freshings probably will cost you 433 00:23:19,335 --> 00:23:22,615 Speaker 3: over a thousand bucks for the oh maybe not that much. 434 00:23:23,295 --> 00:23:25,895 Speaker 4: Let's say it's five hundred bucks for the flashings themselves. 435 00:23:25,935 --> 00:23:28,055 Speaker 10: It's not basically a big long window. 436 00:23:28,135 --> 00:23:30,015 Speaker 3: But you know, by the time you send it off 437 00:23:30,015 --> 00:23:31,735 Speaker 3: to someone, they've got to cut them all. They've got 438 00:23:31,735 --> 00:23:33,495 Speaker 3: to fold them. You've got to get the angle right 439 00:23:33,575 --> 00:23:35,415 Speaker 3: and all the rest of it. So if you get that, 440 00:23:35,495 --> 00:23:38,255 Speaker 3: but right then when you arrive back on site with 441 00:23:38,335 --> 00:23:41,415 Speaker 3: all of your flashings number one through sixteen, you've got 442 00:23:41,455 --> 00:23:43,535 Speaker 3: to pull the old one off. You've got to pry 443 00:23:43,615 --> 00:23:46,375 Speaker 3: open the gap between the lower and the upper weatherboard. 444 00:23:47,255 --> 00:23:50,535 Speaker 3: You've got to take the old one out. You've got 445 00:23:50,575 --> 00:23:53,055 Speaker 3: to fold the ends round, so there's a little bit 446 00:23:53,055 --> 00:23:55,135 Speaker 3: of funky sort of cutting and folding that you need 447 00:23:55,175 --> 00:23:58,055 Speaker 3: to do because they're all bespoke, and then slide it 448 00:23:58,135 --> 00:24:00,175 Speaker 3: up and put a couple of pins through the side. 449 00:24:00,975 --> 00:24:01,175 Speaker 7: Look. 450 00:24:01,255 --> 00:24:02,735 Speaker 4: To be fair, I would probably. 451 00:24:02,375 --> 00:24:07,375 Speaker 3: Allow an hour per window to move a flashing, making 452 00:24:07,455 --> 00:24:08,655 Speaker 3: new one and put one in. 453 00:24:09,375 --> 00:24:10,135 Speaker 4: I could probably do. 454 00:24:10,095 --> 00:24:11,855 Speaker 3: It a little bit faster than that, but I think 455 00:24:11,855 --> 00:24:14,495 Speaker 3: if I was quoting, i'd probably allow close to an 456 00:24:14,535 --> 00:24:17,175 Speaker 3: hour per window, so it'd be a two day job. 457 00:24:18,375 --> 00:24:21,335 Speaker 3: Chippies at sixty bucks an hour, you know you're talking 458 00:24:21,695 --> 00:24:24,775 Speaker 3: twelve to fourteen hundred dollars plus the materials could be 459 00:24:24,815 --> 00:24:28,415 Speaker 3: almost a two thousand dollars exercise. And I know I'm 460 00:24:28,455 --> 00:24:29,895 Speaker 3: going to get a bunch of texts in a minute. 461 00:24:29,895 --> 00:24:36,135 Speaker 10: Agoousand dollars we're talking sixteen flashings here. Yeah, so you're 462 00:24:36,175 --> 00:24:38,335 Speaker 10: saying about one thousand dollars to flashing, were you? 463 00:24:38,535 --> 00:24:38,695 Speaker 11: No? 464 00:24:38,695 --> 00:24:41,815 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I was thinking to buy the flashings, 465 00:24:42,775 --> 00:24:45,015 Speaker 3: to buy all of them, I think it'd be I 466 00:24:45,055 --> 00:24:47,295 Speaker 3: think it's probably more like five hundred bucks right to 467 00:24:47,335 --> 00:24:50,095 Speaker 3: go and get them made by someone and have them. 468 00:24:50,375 --> 00:24:52,855 Speaker 4: Do they need to be stainless? Well, now to comply. 469 00:24:53,015 --> 00:24:56,895 Speaker 10: All sixteen one thousand dollars in total? 470 00:24:57,015 --> 00:25:00,695 Speaker 3: No, five hundred. Let's make it five hundred for sixteen, right. 471 00:25:00,535 --> 00:25:02,695 Speaker 10: Five hundred for sixteen or so, Yeah, somewhere between a 472 00:25:02,735 --> 00:25:03,935 Speaker 10: five hundred. 473 00:25:03,415 --> 00:25:07,135 Speaker 3: And then let's allow two days work for a carpenter, 474 00:25:07,935 --> 00:25:12,215 Speaker 3: so at sixty bucks an hour or something like that. Yeah, 475 00:25:12,215 --> 00:25:15,455 Speaker 3: it'll be a fifteen hundred and sixteen hundred dollars exercise, 476 00:25:15,535 --> 00:25:19,015 Speaker 3: I would think, and spouting interestingly enough, I heard an 477 00:25:19,055 --> 00:25:21,495 Speaker 3: ad actually running on this station the other day that 478 00:25:22,335 --> 00:25:28,015 Speaker 3: for its continuous group doing starting at twenty six dollars 479 00:25:28,055 --> 00:25:28,815 Speaker 3: a linear meter. 480 00:25:29,255 --> 00:25:32,935 Speaker 10: Now, yes, which raises my second question, So how much 481 00:25:32,975 --> 00:25:35,055 Speaker 10: do you think it would cost to put in thirty 482 00:25:35,095 --> 00:25:39,415 Speaker 10: three meters of gathering? There's nothing special about the gathering, 483 00:25:39,855 --> 00:25:42,615 Speaker 10: and they are talking about having brackets every four hundred mili. 484 00:25:42,775 --> 00:25:43,015 Speaker 4: Good. 485 00:25:44,015 --> 00:25:47,775 Speaker 10: There's about nine outlets yep, and end caps and clips 486 00:25:47,815 --> 00:25:51,175 Speaker 10: and stuff. So thirty three meters skateboarding is already up, 487 00:25:51,935 --> 00:25:54,095 Speaker 10: so no extra costs for that. 488 00:25:55,215 --> 00:25:56,095 Speaker 4: Twenty three members. 489 00:25:56,135 --> 00:25:58,575 Speaker 3: I mean, thirty three meters is actually not that much, 490 00:25:58,655 --> 00:26:01,935 Speaker 3: to be fair, but if there's you know, droppers are 491 00:26:01,975 --> 00:26:03,935 Speaker 3: more expensive than a straight run. You've got to do 492 00:26:04,055 --> 00:26:08,055 Speaker 3: end caps and that sort of thing. I mean, I've 493 00:26:08,095 --> 00:26:10,655 Speaker 3: done some numbers. I've come up with sixteen hundred bucks, 494 00:26:10,695 --> 00:26:11,535 Speaker 3: but let's call it two. 495 00:26:11,495 --> 00:26:13,335 Speaker 10: Grand two grand? 496 00:26:13,615 --> 00:26:15,495 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so where have you ended up with? 497 00:26:15,655 --> 00:26:18,415 Speaker 10: Quotes? 498 00:26:18,695 --> 00:26:21,895 Speaker 3: And for good reason you can understand why I'm reluctant 499 00:26:21,935 --> 00:26:25,055 Speaker 3: to sort of discuss numbers, because it's different areas and 500 00:26:25,055 --> 00:26:27,015 Speaker 3: I don't want to comment on anyone else's. 501 00:26:26,695 --> 00:26:33,295 Speaker 10: Work, particularly special. Right, So thirty three meters five thousand, 502 00:26:33,375 --> 00:26:34,895 Speaker 10: one hundred and twenty plus. 503 00:26:34,655 --> 00:26:38,135 Speaker 4: Gsc sorry how much? Five thousand, five. 504 00:26:38,375 --> 00:26:40,735 Speaker 10: One hundred and twenty and I just couldn't get my 505 00:26:40,735 --> 00:26:43,895 Speaker 10: head around it. So I did some pricing for one. 506 00:26:43,855 --> 00:26:45,815 Speaker 3: Hundred and fifty five dollars a linear meter. 507 00:26:46,695 --> 00:26:49,575 Speaker 10: Yeah cool, wait, friky. 508 00:26:50,655 --> 00:26:53,255 Speaker 4: Krakey yeah yeah. 509 00:26:54,095 --> 00:26:55,735 Speaker 10: So I thought, well, gosh, there must be a lot 510 00:26:55,775 --> 00:26:59,175 Speaker 10: more guttering than I thought, so I asked how much, 511 00:26:59,335 --> 00:27:03,015 Speaker 10: how many meters and he consumed, there's thirty three meters 512 00:27:03,015 --> 00:27:06,415 Speaker 10: of guttering nine outdates. We need to replace all the 513 00:27:06,535 --> 00:27:09,135 Speaker 10: end kept and clips. To replace the external bends on 514 00:27:09,175 --> 00:27:11,975 Speaker 10: the bottom level, we'll be using stainless or screws, very 515 00:27:12,015 --> 00:27:15,015 Speaker 10: gutter brackets, so they'll be putting brackets in every four hundred. 516 00:27:14,735 --> 00:27:18,695 Speaker 4: Milk basically, yeah, but screws are not Unit wasn't talking. 517 00:27:18,535 --> 00:27:20,855 Speaker 10: About this though, peak, which I thought a bit surprising. 518 00:27:20,935 --> 00:27:23,695 Speaker 10: The gathering code also includes installing timber in between the 519 00:27:23,775 --> 00:27:28,535 Speaker 10: current timber fixings. Now that I don't quite understand. Yes, 520 00:27:28,575 --> 00:27:32,815 Speaker 10: because basically all but one chunk there is one bit 521 00:27:32,935 --> 00:27:35,735 Speaker 10: there where the gathering is basically sitting on nothing. So 522 00:27:35,775 --> 00:27:38,295 Speaker 10: they need to put another board and take the existing 523 00:27:38,335 --> 00:27:40,215 Speaker 10: gathering off put a board in, But that's about two 524 00:27:40,375 --> 00:27:43,175 Speaker 10: three meters worth of you know. The rest of them 525 00:27:43,215 --> 00:27:46,455 Speaker 10: they just attached to the body. We call them faces, 526 00:27:46,495 --> 00:27:48,575 Speaker 10: I guess, like normal gathering. 527 00:27:48,735 --> 00:27:52,535 Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, okay, Well, I mean maybe you could 528 00:27:52,575 --> 00:27:54,495 Speaker 3: tag that out and say that's a five hundred dollars 529 00:27:54,535 --> 00:27:56,575 Speaker 3: cost or something like that to do that extra. 530 00:27:56,655 --> 00:27:58,615 Speaker 10: But I just don't see where this coat comes from. 531 00:27:58,695 --> 00:28:01,815 Speaker 10: I'm sorry, it just doesn't make any sense. Can you 532 00:28:01,895 --> 00:28:04,015 Speaker 10: just can you just remind me what you said you 533 00:28:04,095 --> 00:28:07,255 Speaker 10: think the gathering should go? Well, no, I thirty three meters. 534 00:28:07,375 --> 00:28:09,895 Speaker 3: Well, I'm listening to z B during the day, and 535 00:28:09,935 --> 00:28:12,815 Speaker 3: I know that there's a company they're advertising and they're saying, hey, 536 00:28:12,815 --> 00:28:16,695 Speaker 3: look spouting starting from twenty nine dollars a meter. I 537 00:28:16,815 --> 00:28:18,735 Speaker 3: put in fifty dollars a meter, and I came up 538 00:28:18,775 --> 00:28:21,735 Speaker 3: with a sort of a sixty sixteen hundred dollars fee. 539 00:28:21,895 --> 00:28:26,015 Speaker 10: Right, So they're fifty dollars for meter that you're talking about, Pete. 540 00:28:26,055 --> 00:28:29,295 Speaker 10: That is basically to get the materials, get you know, 541 00:28:29,335 --> 00:28:31,455 Speaker 10: and the bits and in caps and screws and go 542 00:28:31,775 --> 00:28:34,055 Speaker 10: and blah blah blah. It's the fifty dollars a meter 543 00:28:34,175 --> 00:28:35,175 Speaker 10: and that's installed. 544 00:28:35,255 --> 00:28:35,695 Speaker 7: You reckon? 545 00:28:35,855 --> 00:28:39,615 Speaker 3: Yeah, typically yeah. 546 00:28:38,375 --> 00:28:38,615 Speaker 4: So. 547 00:28:40,175 --> 00:28:41,935 Speaker 3: Look the beauty of it is and this is the 548 00:28:41,935 --> 00:28:44,935 Speaker 3: beauty of capitalism. You get more than one quote, right, 549 00:28:45,055 --> 00:28:47,335 Speaker 3: And so you invited people. 550 00:28:47,375 --> 00:28:51,135 Speaker 10: People doing the rufic, so in for those heads snatings, Pete, 551 00:28:51,135 --> 00:28:51,815 Speaker 10: what do you reckon? 552 00:28:51,975 --> 00:28:52,215 Speaker 12: Oh? 553 00:28:52,895 --> 00:28:56,215 Speaker 3: Look, I again, you know, I don't know the circumstances, 554 00:28:56,255 --> 00:28:59,135 Speaker 3: don't know how complicated, but you know. I know, having 555 00:28:59,215 --> 00:29:01,575 Speaker 3: done especially on villas. I know having done a lot 556 00:29:01,575 --> 00:29:04,575 Speaker 3: of work on villas, they can be time consuming. So 557 00:29:04,655 --> 00:29:06,855 Speaker 3: if I if I was looking at it myself, i'd 558 00:29:06,895 --> 00:29:09,575 Speaker 3: allow myself an hour per window, right, so it'd be 559 00:29:09,575 --> 00:29:12,975 Speaker 3: a two day job. And then I so at sixty 560 00:29:12,975 --> 00:29:15,655 Speaker 3: bucks an hour, you can figure that out and then say, well, look, 561 00:29:15,695 --> 00:29:16,895 Speaker 3: I'm going to go and get a whole bunch of 562 00:29:16,975 --> 00:29:20,135 Speaker 3: flashings made up and we're going to put five hundred 563 00:29:20,135 --> 00:29:22,455 Speaker 3: dollar fee on that. That's roughly where you are. It'd 564 00:29:22,455 --> 00:29:24,375 Speaker 3: be interesting if someone does text and go I'm either 565 00:29:24,455 --> 00:29:28,055 Speaker 3: too high or too low, but look, great thing is 566 00:29:28,135 --> 00:29:30,815 Speaker 3: hopefully ask around, get a couple of extra quotes, and 567 00:29:30,855 --> 00:29:31,575 Speaker 3: then go from there. 568 00:29:32,015 --> 00:29:32,895 Speaker 4: Let us know how you get on. 569 00:29:33,415 --> 00:29:34,255 Speaker 10: Take care. 570 00:29:34,535 --> 00:29:35,015 Speaker 4: My pleasure. 571 00:29:35,215 --> 00:29:37,375 Speaker 3: Nice to talk to you, Bob, your news talks. It'd 572 00:29:37,415 --> 00:29:39,215 Speaker 3: be if you've got a question of a building nature 573 00:29:39,295 --> 00:29:43,775 Speaker 3: and it's it's broad right. It can be around product selection, 574 00:29:43,895 --> 00:29:46,095 Speaker 3: it can be around tool use. John, I'm more than 575 00:29:46,135 --> 00:29:49,335 Speaker 3: happy to talk about, you know, selecting the right tool 576 00:29:49,375 --> 00:29:52,815 Speaker 3: for the job. And yeah, I'm really keen to talk 577 00:29:52,855 --> 00:29:56,255 Speaker 3: about safety as well. I think these figures are a 578 00:29:56,295 --> 00:29:59,055 Speaker 3: little bit out of date, but I know from some reading. 579 00:29:59,055 --> 00:30:02,415 Speaker 3: I did maybe a year or two ago, ACC pay 580 00:30:02,415 --> 00:30:07,655 Speaker 3: out about seventy six million dollars and compensation or funding 581 00:30:08,455 --> 00:30:11,135 Speaker 3: for people that have injuries at home as a result 582 00:30:11,215 --> 00:30:16,415 Speaker 3: of falling from ladders. The total amount that they would 583 00:30:16,455 --> 00:30:20,015 Speaker 3: pay out on sort of home injuries, let's say, caused 584 00:30:20,015 --> 00:30:23,455 Speaker 3: by power tools actually on my list as well to 585 00:30:23,535 --> 00:30:26,255 Speaker 3: reach out and go. It'd be really fascinating to know 586 00:30:26,535 --> 00:30:31,775 Speaker 3: what that number would be. And I don't want to 587 00:30:31,775 --> 00:30:34,895 Speaker 3: make light of people having injuries, but I also don't 588 00:30:35,055 --> 00:30:39,015 Speaker 3: want people to feel that somehow the power tool is 589 00:30:39,055 --> 00:30:41,775 Speaker 3: responsible for the injury, not the operator. Most of the 590 00:30:41,775 --> 00:30:44,175 Speaker 3: time it's the operator. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten 591 00:30:44,215 --> 00:30:46,335 Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call. It is six forty 592 00:30:46,375 --> 00:30:50,335 Speaker 3: seven here at news Talk said quick text with regard 593 00:30:50,375 --> 00:30:53,655 Speaker 3: to the conversation with Dean was that including or excluding scaffolding. 594 00:30:53,975 --> 00:30:55,975 Speaker 3: That was the whole point of the part of the 595 00:30:56,095 --> 00:30:58,455 Speaker 3: story was that the scaffolding was already up because they 596 00:30:58,455 --> 00:31:00,975 Speaker 3: were doing roof for replacements. And I mean scaffolding's are 597 00:31:01,175 --> 00:31:04,855 Speaker 3: significant costs. So yeah, just purely for the materials in labor. 598 00:31:05,095 --> 00:31:08,335 Speaker 3: Hello and good morning, Oh, good morning. 599 00:31:08,815 --> 00:31:13,135 Speaker 13: I have a seventy year old house or remu I'm 600 00:31:13,175 --> 00:31:17,055 Speaker 13: getting two double doors put in. They are what you 601 00:31:17,255 --> 00:31:20,495 Speaker 13: have in front of the mosque, So each one is 602 00:31:20,535 --> 00:31:25,055 Speaker 13: four point five kg that carved so and they are 603 00:31:25,295 --> 00:31:28,735 Speaker 13: higher than the existing doorway. I'm replacing it, taking the 604 00:31:28,775 --> 00:31:32,455 Speaker 13: old doorway out and putting the ornamental things in as 605 00:31:32,655 --> 00:31:33,255 Speaker 13: an ornament. 606 00:31:33,375 --> 00:31:34,815 Speaker 6: But they will also be a door. 607 00:31:35,135 --> 00:31:35,535 Speaker 5: They will. 608 00:31:35,615 --> 00:31:37,775 Speaker 14: But when they join together. 609 00:31:38,735 --> 00:31:42,455 Speaker 13: There has so the top above the door has to. 610 00:31:42,415 --> 00:31:47,055 Speaker 9: Be heightened by about two fifty and they have to 611 00:31:47,055 --> 00:31:50,215 Speaker 9: be made wide. But there's room for that. What sort 612 00:31:50,255 --> 00:31:51,975 Speaker 9: of a cost should they be? 613 00:31:52,455 --> 00:31:56,415 Speaker 3: Look, I'm really reluctant to get into the whole. Can 614 00:31:56,455 --> 00:31:58,855 Speaker 3: you quote a job for me without seeing it? The 615 00:31:58,935 --> 00:32:00,655 Speaker 3: other thing that I would point out to you in 616 00:32:01,375 --> 00:32:06,415 Speaker 3: is that that what you're describing there, The fact that 617 00:32:06,455 --> 00:32:10,975 Speaker 3: you want to widen the opening also triggers a requirement 618 00:32:11,015 --> 00:32:12,335 Speaker 3: for a building consent. 619 00:32:13,775 --> 00:32:16,655 Speaker 5: In an internal door. 620 00:32:16,055 --> 00:32:23,175 Speaker 3: Internal door Okay, no, probably not, but if it's a 621 00:32:23,215 --> 00:32:27,095 Speaker 3: load bearing wall, then you will definitely need to have 622 00:32:28,055 --> 00:32:32,335 Speaker 3: some specific engineering or design done. So the lintel will 623 00:32:32,375 --> 00:32:35,655 Speaker 3: need to be sized to take the load above. 624 00:32:36,855 --> 00:32:38,815 Speaker 4: And look hanging old. 625 00:32:38,575 --> 00:32:43,775 Speaker 3: Doors that are slightly twisted and all the rest of it. Okay, 626 00:32:43,815 --> 00:32:45,495 Speaker 3: all right, either way, it's still. 627 00:32:45,335 --> 00:32:46,215 Speaker 4: Quite a lot of work. 628 00:32:46,415 --> 00:32:49,655 Speaker 3: So look, there is no point in me offering up 629 00:32:49,655 --> 00:32:51,855 Speaker 3: a price because I'm not doing the work right. So 630 00:32:51,895 --> 00:32:55,535 Speaker 3: the best bet is to find a contractor that's recommended 631 00:32:55,575 --> 00:32:57,975 Speaker 3: to you, someone who's got some skills. 632 00:32:58,415 --> 00:33:00,455 Speaker 7: I know, the builder is very good. 633 00:33:00,215 --> 00:33:04,775 Speaker 5: Okay, eighty bucks. 634 00:33:04,535 --> 00:33:07,375 Speaker 3: An now, yep, that's that's where Chippy's are sitting at 635 00:33:07,415 --> 00:33:10,775 Speaker 3: the moment. To be fair, labor rates are coming back, 636 00:33:10,855 --> 00:33:13,135 Speaker 3: but that will depend on where you are in the 637 00:33:13,175 --> 00:33:16,095 Speaker 3: country and what type of work. And you know, what 638 00:33:16,135 --> 00:33:19,855 Speaker 3: you're asking them to do is it's not outside of 639 00:33:19,895 --> 00:33:22,775 Speaker 3: what most people would be able to do every day, 640 00:33:22,895 --> 00:33:25,655 Speaker 3: but it will require a set of skills that's probably 641 00:33:25,815 --> 00:33:28,255 Speaker 3: to be fair beyond some people. So I think the 642 00:33:28,255 --> 00:33:30,215 Speaker 3: best bet is to get a you know what the 643 00:33:30,215 --> 00:33:32,055 Speaker 3: hourly rate is. They should be able to tell you. 644 00:33:32,375 --> 00:33:34,975 Speaker 3: I think it's going to take me two days, three days, 645 00:33:35,415 --> 00:33:37,495 Speaker 3: you know, something like that. Shouldn't really be much more 646 00:33:37,535 --> 00:33:39,735 Speaker 3: than that, and then if you're happy with the price, 647 00:33:39,855 --> 00:33:42,215 Speaker 3: go ahead, and if you're not, then find another price. So, 648 00:33:43,175 --> 00:33:46,335 Speaker 3: like I said, not really wanting to engage in lots 649 00:33:46,335 --> 00:33:48,655 Speaker 3: of discussion around how much do you think it should cost? 650 00:33:49,495 --> 00:33:51,935 Speaker 3: Just get an extra price. Good luck to you in Liz. 651 00:33:51,975 --> 00:33:54,935 Speaker 5: Hello there, Hello, how are you today? 652 00:33:55,015 --> 00:33:55,215 Speaker 9: Good? 653 00:33:55,215 --> 00:33:55,575 Speaker 4: Thank you? 654 00:33:56,735 --> 00:33:57,015 Speaker 15: It's it. 655 00:33:57,855 --> 00:34:03,495 Speaker 9: I decided to get a new garage door installed because 656 00:34:03,535 --> 00:34:06,415 Speaker 9: the other one was old and apparently the other and 657 00:34:06,495 --> 00:34:10,335 Speaker 9: has had trouble with the garage door on trying to 658 00:34:10,455 --> 00:34:14,735 Speaker 9: open it with a remote. Yes, anyway, installed this lovely 659 00:34:14,855 --> 00:34:18,375 Speaker 9: new garage door, and the garage door just seems to 660 00:34:18,615 --> 00:34:22,015 Speaker 9: like to open whenever it feels like right. 661 00:34:22,975 --> 00:34:25,815 Speaker 3: Look, if it's a new door, then there will be 662 00:34:25,975 --> 00:34:29,655 Speaker 3: warranties and guarantees around the door. So it's just a 663 00:34:29,695 --> 00:34:32,455 Speaker 3: case of going back to the supplier or to the 664 00:34:32,455 --> 00:34:37,775 Speaker 3: installer and explaining that to them it just simply shouldn't happen. 665 00:34:37,815 --> 00:34:44,855 Speaker 9: So it's some installed for new motors already. Then I 666 00:34:44,935 --> 00:34:49,135 Speaker 9: had to get a Sparky in to check, putting a 667 00:34:49,215 --> 00:34:54,255 Speaker 9: new plug up the top yep and then the Sparky 668 00:34:54,375 --> 00:34:56,975 Speaker 9: in check, which was fantastic or my worrying to see 669 00:34:56,975 --> 00:34:59,135 Speaker 9: what there was no faults in my warrant and it's 670 00:34:59,135 --> 00:34:59,855 Speaker 9: still opening. 671 00:35:01,255 --> 00:35:04,415 Speaker 3: I tell you what, I wonder whether it's worth getting 672 00:35:04,655 --> 00:35:07,055 Speaker 3: next time someone comes out to check it, getting a 673 00:35:07,095 --> 00:35:11,735 Speaker 3: new remote and programming it again because it is quite 674 00:35:11,855 --> 00:35:16,415 Speaker 3: possible that someone nearby has a very similar remote and 675 00:35:16,455 --> 00:35:19,615 Speaker 3: when they open their door, your door opens as well. 676 00:35:19,815 --> 00:35:22,535 Speaker 3: That you'd want to that that can happen, right. 677 00:35:23,575 --> 00:35:30,375 Speaker 9: We've gone through that Scenarioka and his program Offsite offside. 678 00:35:31,575 --> 00:35:36,335 Speaker 3: Wow and its look ultimately, you know you, I know 679 00:35:36,455 --> 00:35:40,655 Speaker 3: it's it can become disheartening to constantly be ringing the contractor, 680 00:35:40,695 --> 00:35:43,975 Speaker 3: but that's not how doors a garage doors are supposed 681 00:35:44,015 --> 00:35:47,015 Speaker 3: to work. So it's completely the responsibility of the contractor 682 00:35:47,495 --> 00:35:50,095 Speaker 3: to keep fixing it at no cost to you. 683 00:35:51,775 --> 00:35:54,415 Speaker 9: Yes, well, well I have to pay for the sparky. 684 00:35:54,615 --> 00:35:57,295 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's okay, that's an upgrade. But in terms 685 00:35:57,335 --> 00:35:59,935 Speaker 3: of actually getting the door to stay closed until you 686 00:35:59,975 --> 00:36:03,015 Speaker 3: want it to open, is what they need to do 687 00:36:03,215 --> 00:36:03,655 Speaker 3: for you. 688 00:36:04,535 --> 00:36:05,135 Speaker 15: And and. 689 00:36:06,615 --> 00:36:08,575 Speaker 4: I can imagine the frustration. 690 00:36:08,455 --> 00:36:15,815 Speaker 9: But you've just got the insecurity of having a door. 691 00:36:15,895 --> 00:36:18,095 Speaker 9: Like I was watching the Olympics the other n I 692 00:36:18,135 --> 00:36:20,895 Speaker 9: went to bed at one thot and the garage door 693 00:36:20,935 --> 00:36:21,495 Speaker 9: wide open. 694 00:36:26,695 --> 00:36:29,575 Speaker 3: I don't know enough about them to make a comment 695 00:36:29,615 --> 00:36:34,055 Speaker 3: around that, but you know, please persist with phoning them, 696 00:36:34,535 --> 00:36:38,255 Speaker 3: and you know, if you're not getting the right reply, 697 00:36:39,135 --> 00:36:42,975 Speaker 3: then you can seek redress through like the commuce commissioners 698 00:36:43,095 --> 00:36:45,735 Speaker 3: or just remind them of their responsibilities under the Consumer 699 00:36:45,815 --> 00:36:48,655 Speaker 3: Guarantees Act. That tends to get people operating a little 700 00:36:48,695 --> 00:36:49,055 Speaker 3: bit better. 701 00:36:49,615 --> 00:36:51,095 Speaker 4: So good luck with that. 702 00:36:53,015 --> 00:36:57,735 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not easy, all right, you take care? See then, crikey. 703 00:36:58,855 --> 00:37:00,935 Speaker 3: That would be quite disconcerting, wouldn't it if you wake 704 00:37:01,015 --> 00:37:02,855 Speaker 3: up in the morning and find that garage doors open 705 00:37:02,975 --> 00:37:04,255 Speaker 3: and it's just opened randomly. 706 00:37:05,615 --> 00:37:05,735 Speaker 15: Oh? 707 00:37:05,815 --> 00:37:06,775 Speaker 4: I like this song. 708 00:37:11,975 --> 00:37:14,295 Speaker 3: You and New Stalks at b We're into the second 709 00:37:14,295 --> 00:37:15,655 Speaker 3: hour of the show. Welcome back. 710 00:37:15,695 --> 00:37:17,975 Speaker 4: Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the. 711 00:37:17,895 --> 00:37:20,135 Speaker 3: Number to call if you've got a building question or 712 00:37:20,135 --> 00:37:24,215 Speaker 3: a building related question. And we did, interestingly have a 713 00:37:24,255 --> 00:37:27,455 Speaker 3: bit of a conversation around safety, and I guess it's 714 00:37:27,495 --> 00:37:33,215 Speaker 3: around sort of responsibility that I'm very aware that many 715 00:37:33,255 --> 00:37:36,175 Speaker 3: of us will do work at home, and while we're 716 00:37:36,175 --> 00:37:38,175 Speaker 3: doing it, we'll have tools, and some of them will 717 00:37:38,175 --> 00:37:40,975 Speaker 3: be power tools, some will be hand tools. Generally, most 718 00:37:41,015 --> 00:37:43,775 Speaker 3: tools are sharp, and most tools can hurt you. If 719 00:37:43,815 --> 00:37:46,575 Speaker 3: you've ever hit your thumb with a hammer, it hurts. 720 00:37:47,375 --> 00:37:49,695 Speaker 3: If you've ever cut yourself with a saw, it hurts. 721 00:37:50,415 --> 00:37:53,415 Speaker 3: If you've ever slipped off a ladder, it hurts. So 722 00:37:54,015 --> 00:37:56,695 Speaker 3: a little bit of discussion around safety and machinery was good, 723 00:37:57,135 --> 00:37:59,535 Speaker 3: and just before the break we were talking with Liz 724 00:37:59,575 --> 00:38:03,495 Speaker 3: who mentioned a garage door, a replacement garage door that 725 00:38:04,055 --> 00:38:09,855 Speaker 3: seems to have a mind of its own and what 726 00:38:10,215 --> 00:38:12,775 Speaker 3: might be causing that, And ultimately it does come down 727 00:38:12,775 --> 00:38:16,615 Speaker 3: to the contractor being coming back and sorting out a 728 00:38:16,655 --> 00:38:18,695 Speaker 3: couple of texts on that we turn our door off 729 00:38:18,735 --> 00:38:21,055 Speaker 3: at night with a long pole for that reason security. 730 00:38:21,095 --> 00:38:23,175 Speaker 3: It seems to be how the door relates to the ground. 731 00:38:23,175 --> 00:38:26,495 Speaker 3: If it runs a bit on it can decide to 732 00:38:26,495 --> 00:38:28,575 Speaker 3: go back up. Yeah, but I know that that's what 733 00:38:28,695 --> 00:38:30,735 Speaker 3: happens when you're tuning the door, right, So if it 734 00:38:30,775 --> 00:38:33,455 Speaker 3: comes down, it sort of does a bounce thing and 735 00:38:33,495 --> 00:38:36,895 Speaker 3: you have to reset the travel on the door to 736 00:38:37,095 --> 00:38:39,895 Speaker 3: ensure that it doesn't think that it's hit something and 737 00:38:39,975 --> 00:38:44,415 Speaker 3: comes back up. But typically that happens when you're either 738 00:38:45,015 --> 00:38:47,895 Speaker 3: when you're closing the door, it bounces back up. But 739 00:38:48,215 --> 00:38:50,775 Speaker 3: for it to randomly open at one o'clock in the morning, 740 00:38:51,895 --> 00:39:01,055 Speaker 3: that's a slightly different question regarding yeah, someone else has 741 00:39:01,095 --> 00:39:04,415 Speaker 3: ticked through, just with regard to doors being inadvertently opened 742 00:39:04,695 --> 00:39:06,375 Speaker 3: by other remote. 743 00:39:06,055 --> 00:39:08,135 Speaker 4: Controlls in the area. So you have to look at that. 744 00:39:08,535 --> 00:39:12,215 Speaker 3: We'll take some calls on all things building and building 745 00:39:12,295 --> 00:39:15,175 Speaker 3: related here at Newstalk z B. It is coming up 746 00:39:15,175 --> 00:39:17,855 Speaker 3: to ten minutes eight minutes after seven. 747 00:39:18,135 --> 00:39:20,695 Speaker 4: A very good morning, Oh good morning. 748 00:39:22,015 --> 00:39:25,495 Speaker 16: I just heard the lady for the news, and my 749 00:39:25,735 --> 00:39:28,815 Speaker 16: comments mirror the ones you've just read out from text. 750 00:39:28,855 --> 00:39:31,535 Speaker 16: Which was my first reaction was we'll turn the thing 751 00:39:31,535 --> 00:39:35,775 Speaker 16: off at the PowerPoint at night time, which we do. 752 00:39:35,895 --> 00:39:37,375 Speaker 16: If you know we're going to be away for a 753 00:39:37,415 --> 00:39:40,175 Speaker 16: period of prime on holiday, you just turn the switch 754 00:39:40,215 --> 00:39:44,455 Speaker 16: so that they can't it can't go up to it. 755 00:39:45,935 --> 00:39:48,335 Speaker 16: So it won't solve a problem, but in the meantime 756 00:39:48,335 --> 00:39:50,735 Speaker 16: for it to feel secure. If she has a post 757 00:39:50,815 --> 00:39:53,655 Speaker 16: or broomstick or something and just switch pushes the switch 758 00:39:53,695 --> 00:39:56,415 Speaker 16: off at least when she's finished for the day, she 759 00:39:56,575 --> 00:39:59,855 Speaker 16: knows it won't open. Yes, she turns it back on 760 00:39:59,935 --> 00:40:05,015 Speaker 16: again the same. We do the same the door. If 761 00:40:05,055 --> 00:40:07,575 Speaker 16: the wind comes from a certain direction that makes the 762 00:40:07,615 --> 00:40:11,295 Speaker 16: door rattle. So if that case, I go out and 763 00:40:11,415 --> 00:40:14,735 Speaker 16: lift up the wire as there's an older door, but 764 00:40:15,095 --> 00:40:16,775 Speaker 16: the wire thing and hook it up over it. 765 00:40:16,855 --> 00:40:18,495 Speaker 6: Oh, you hook it off the hook. 766 00:40:18,655 --> 00:40:21,655 Speaker 16: Unhook it off the hook, so the locks actually lock 767 00:40:21,855 --> 00:40:24,295 Speaker 16: on either side of it at the bottom so that 768 00:40:24,295 --> 00:40:26,335 Speaker 16: that stops the wind from rattling. And then when the 769 00:40:26,375 --> 00:40:29,215 Speaker 16: storm's over, I go back and I put the wire 770 00:40:29,295 --> 00:40:33,735 Speaker 16: back over the hook and it's back into automatic mode. 771 00:40:34,535 --> 00:40:38,015 Speaker 16: So's it's just, yeah, it won't solve her problem, but 772 00:40:38,055 --> 00:40:40,975 Speaker 16: it might help her peace of mind if you well until. 773 00:40:40,655 --> 00:40:43,175 Speaker 3: The problem was solved. That's probably not a bad step 774 00:40:43,215 --> 00:40:44,975 Speaker 3: to take. It if you worried that you're going to 775 00:40:45,015 --> 00:40:47,055 Speaker 3: wake up in the morning and find the garage door open, 776 00:40:47,455 --> 00:40:49,775 Speaker 3: then at nighttime when you close it, turn the switch 777 00:40:49,815 --> 00:40:51,055 Speaker 3: off and it'll stay closed. 778 00:40:51,415 --> 00:40:55,615 Speaker 16: And there is that tiny uncertainty with those doors. I 779 00:40:55,775 --> 00:40:58,255 Speaker 16: was driving home at two thirty one night past the 780 00:40:58,335 --> 00:41:01,895 Speaker 16: neighbor's place and saw their door wide open and thought, 781 00:41:02,175 --> 00:41:05,335 Speaker 16: oh no, it's got all sorts of stuff in there, 782 00:41:05,375 --> 00:41:08,695 Speaker 16: and cleansing his hunting rifles. I'll go and wake him 783 00:41:08,775 --> 00:41:11,495 Speaker 16: up at two thirty in the morning, hopefully he won't mind. 784 00:41:12,015 --> 00:41:13,855 Speaker 16: And he said, oh shit, thank. 785 00:41:13,695 --> 00:41:14,335 Speaker 7: You so much. 786 00:41:14,935 --> 00:41:17,655 Speaker 16: Yes, it's got my hunting rifles in there, I think. 787 00:41:18,095 --> 00:41:20,055 Speaker 3: Hopefully be in a safe and all the rest of it. 788 00:41:20,095 --> 00:41:23,415 Speaker 16: But yeah, they were all his antlers and his head, 789 00:41:23,495 --> 00:41:26,855 Speaker 16: oh crack, all his meat in the freezer and things 790 00:41:26,895 --> 00:41:28,735 Speaker 16: like that, and I'm going, well, I think you'll prefer 791 00:41:28,815 --> 00:41:31,335 Speaker 16: me waking you up and then finding out in the 792 00:41:31,415 --> 00:41:37,095 Speaker 16: morning that's coming. Yeah, but he thought he'd shut it 793 00:41:37,175 --> 00:41:39,535 Speaker 16: from the house, that he pressed the button as he 794 00:41:39,575 --> 00:41:41,975 Speaker 16: went into the house and didn't look back. Yeah, and 795 00:41:42,015 --> 00:41:43,135 Speaker 16: of course it hadn't shut. 796 00:41:43,455 --> 00:41:44,535 Speaker 14: Brilliant in that case. 797 00:41:44,615 --> 00:41:46,015 Speaker 16: So you've got to you've got to check. 798 00:41:46,255 --> 00:41:49,575 Speaker 3: Appreciate the call, lovely to chat all the best, Thank 799 00:41:49,615 --> 00:41:52,495 Speaker 3: you very much. Quick text on the lady with the 800 00:41:52,495 --> 00:41:54,855 Speaker 3: garage door issue. Take the batteries out of all of 801 00:41:54,895 --> 00:41:57,255 Speaker 3: the remotes and see if that stops it happening. Then 802 00:41:57,295 --> 00:41:59,535 Speaker 3: it may show that if it's in the motor brain 803 00:41:59,775 --> 00:42:03,295 Speaker 3: or in the remote controls. Very good suggestion, Roger, Good 804 00:42:03,295 --> 00:42:03,975 Speaker 3: morning to you. 805 00:42:04,695 --> 00:42:06,255 Speaker 15: How are you, Peter. I haven't talked to you for 806 00:42:06,375 --> 00:42:06,815 Speaker 15: a while. 807 00:42:07,055 --> 00:42:08,535 Speaker 4: Nice to hear from you. You will. 808 00:42:08,615 --> 00:42:15,295 Speaker 15: Yeah. About machinery and it's safety and I work for 809 00:42:15,415 --> 00:42:19,255 Speaker 15: Ray Golfinch for eight years working on machinery all day 810 00:42:19,295 --> 00:42:23,615 Speaker 15: and every day, yep, And there was no There was 811 00:42:23,655 --> 00:42:26,735 Speaker 15: no safety cover for the switches. There was no The 812 00:42:26,775 --> 00:42:28,815 Speaker 15: on off switch was simple and it was easy to 813 00:42:28,815 --> 00:42:31,335 Speaker 15: get at if you needed to turn it off anytime. 814 00:42:32,135 --> 00:42:35,775 Speaker 15: So therefore, really the guy is talking rubbish, and nobody 815 00:42:35,815 --> 00:42:40,775 Speaker 15: would sell you a machine with a flap over the 816 00:42:40,815 --> 00:42:44,095 Speaker 15: switch that stops you from turning it off as well 817 00:42:44,095 --> 00:42:44,335 Speaker 15: as on. 818 00:42:46,575 --> 00:42:51,255 Speaker 3: H Actually, I'm thinking like I got no, I've got 819 00:42:51,255 --> 00:42:53,895 Speaker 3: that arrangement on a dust extractor that I have in 820 00:42:53,935 --> 00:42:58,295 Speaker 3: my workshop in the garage, right. So there is a 821 00:42:58,615 --> 00:43:02,575 Speaker 3: flap that you have to release and lift up in 822 00:43:02,695 --> 00:43:07,455 Speaker 3: order to turn the dust extractor on. And then when 823 00:43:07,535 --> 00:43:10,335 Speaker 3: you put the flat back down, it has a red 824 00:43:10,335 --> 00:43:12,695 Speaker 3: button on the top, which means that if you need 825 00:43:12,735 --> 00:43:14,935 Speaker 3: to turn it off quickly, you can just hit that 826 00:43:15,095 --> 00:43:18,655 Speaker 3: so you can turn it off without doing any intervention. 827 00:43:18,775 --> 00:43:21,135 Speaker 3: But you can only turn it on with a two 828 00:43:21,175 --> 00:43:24,975 Speaker 3: step process, which is modern. 829 00:43:25,135 --> 00:43:26,095 Speaker 15: That's a bit that's modern. 830 00:43:26,415 --> 00:43:31,095 Speaker 3: Pretty good situation. The table saw that I currently have 831 00:43:32,295 --> 00:43:36,415 Speaker 3: has essentially a toggle, so to turn it on you 832 00:43:36,535 --> 00:43:38,975 Speaker 3: have to lift it up, as in just you know, 833 00:43:39,535 --> 00:43:41,695 Speaker 3: leave it up right. It's it's not a it's just 834 00:43:41,735 --> 00:43:43,975 Speaker 3: a one step thing. You just put your fingers undereath it, 835 00:43:44,015 --> 00:43:45,975 Speaker 3: flick it up. But it also means that if you 836 00:43:46,015 --> 00:43:48,575 Speaker 3: need to turn it off quickly, it's simply a downward 837 00:43:48,695 --> 00:43:50,255 Speaker 3: motion and it's off what. 838 00:43:50,175 --> 00:43:54,295 Speaker 15: I'm trying to say. That's what I'm trying to say. Yeah, 839 00:43:54,695 --> 00:43:58,575 Speaker 15: his his if he's buying machinery for a workshop at 840 00:43:58,575 --> 00:44:01,655 Speaker 15: home where the kids are around, he should take the 841 00:44:01,695 --> 00:44:04,495 Speaker 15: pair supply away from each of the machines when he's 842 00:44:04,535 --> 00:44:05,215 Speaker 15: not using it. 843 00:44:05,575 --> 00:44:08,655 Speaker 4: And that it's a really simple safety precaution right. 844 00:44:08,935 --> 00:44:10,335 Speaker 15: Well in it's common sense. 845 00:44:10,455 --> 00:44:12,655 Speaker 3: And look, you know, over the years, I'm sure most 846 00:44:12,735 --> 00:44:16,575 Speaker 3: of us have used power tools inside the house, possibly 847 00:44:16,655 --> 00:44:18,895 Speaker 3: when other people are around, and that sort of thing. 848 00:44:18,975 --> 00:44:22,015 Speaker 3: So you're right if you're not standing by, you know, 849 00:44:22,095 --> 00:44:24,495 Speaker 3: like a circular saw for example, back in the day 850 00:44:24,495 --> 00:44:29,015 Speaker 3: that we had, you know, used more corded tools than 851 00:44:29,055 --> 00:44:30,415 Speaker 3: cordless ones for example. 852 00:44:31,895 --> 00:44:33,695 Speaker 15: Of course that's negated there isn't it. 853 00:44:33,655 --> 00:44:34,415 Speaker 4: Right, Well, it has. 854 00:44:34,495 --> 00:44:39,255 Speaker 3: But interestingly enough, like all of the cutting tools that 855 00:44:39,375 --> 00:44:43,095 Speaker 3: I have, I would you know, in terms of circular saw, 856 00:44:43,175 --> 00:44:47,255 Speaker 3: recep saw, jigsaw and those sorts of things all have 857 00:44:47,855 --> 00:44:50,735 Speaker 3: it's not just to pull the trigger, right, they all 858 00:44:50,815 --> 00:44:54,975 Speaker 3: have an additional either a toggle or a lever or 859 00:44:54,975 --> 00:44:57,095 Speaker 3: something like that that you have to depress before you 860 00:44:57,095 --> 00:44:57,895 Speaker 3: can pull the trigger. 861 00:44:58,295 --> 00:45:02,455 Speaker 15: So the circular not to mention all those modern tools, 862 00:45:02,495 --> 00:45:05,095 Speaker 15: now you pull the batrio and that stops everything doesn't. 863 00:45:05,335 --> 00:45:07,615 Speaker 3: And that's absolutely true as well. But you know, so 864 00:45:07,775 --> 00:45:10,895 Speaker 3: there is more inbuilt safety, but which I think is 865 00:45:10,935 --> 00:45:13,295 Speaker 3: good because it does mean that, you know, for something 866 00:45:13,335 --> 00:45:17,295 Speaker 3: like a circular sort, for example, if that's left unattended 867 00:45:17,295 --> 00:45:19,535 Speaker 3: for a moment and somebody does wander and think, oh, 868 00:45:19,575 --> 00:45:23,175 Speaker 3: I wonder what happens when I grab the trigger, that's 869 00:45:23,375 --> 00:45:26,975 Speaker 3: it prevents someone from doing that. But ultimately, my attitude 870 00:45:27,015 --> 00:45:29,695 Speaker 3: has always been, you know, if it's my gear, then 871 00:45:29,815 --> 00:45:33,815 Speaker 3: I'm responsible for the environment and I'll make sure that 872 00:45:33,855 --> 00:45:37,535 Speaker 3: it doesn't stay on or that I'm supervising it correctly. 873 00:45:38,295 --> 00:45:41,895 Speaker 15: Yeah. I had machinery around the place all my fifty 874 00:45:41,975 --> 00:45:44,855 Speaker 15: years of building and never never had any problem. Still 875 00:45:44,855 --> 00:45:48,015 Speaker 15: got all my own fingers, and I did a lot 876 00:45:48,055 --> 00:45:50,655 Speaker 15: of work for Gregolf, a lot of machinery work for 877 00:45:50,695 --> 00:45:53,535 Speaker 15: Rey golfinch right, a lot of it, to be fair. 878 00:45:53,775 --> 00:45:58,055 Speaker 3: I do know that name, yeah. 879 00:45:57,135 --> 00:46:00,895 Speaker 15: Grason Avenue, Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's got two 880 00:46:00,895 --> 00:46:02,335 Speaker 15: boys that would be your age. 881 00:46:03,175 --> 00:46:05,535 Speaker 3: He might be right because my dad's factory was down 882 00:46:05,575 --> 00:46:10,495 Speaker 3: there as well. Yeah, Grace Avenue. I drove by there 883 00:46:10,535 --> 00:46:14,095 Speaker 3: the other day. Actually it's changed a bit, but well, 884 00:46:14,135 --> 00:46:16,255 Speaker 3: In fact, when when Dad had the factory there, Grace 885 00:46:16,335 --> 00:46:18,415 Speaker 3: Nevenue didn't go all the way through, It stopped at 886 00:46:18,455 --> 00:46:20,975 Speaker 3: a kind of where duff at Doors was and that 887 00:46:21,055 --> 00:46:21,495 Speaker 3: sort of thing. 888 00:46:21,655 --> 00:46:24,815 Speaker 15: And that's where you their concrete outfit too. 889 00:46:25,055 --> 00:46:28,495 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right at the end, brilliant. Hey, lovely to 890 00:46:28,495 --> 00:46:30,535 Speaker 3: talk to you, Roger, better move On's nice to talk 891 00:46:30,535 --> 00:46:33,895 Speaker 3: to you by by then. So the reason that we 892 00:46:33,895 --> 00:46:36,415 Speaker 3: were a couple of old codges reminiscing is that my dad, 893 00:46:36,455 --> 00:46:39,095 Speaker 3: when he was in business, had a factory. We made metal. 894 00:46:39,295 --> 00:46:44,135 Speaker 3: Dad made metal furniture and anchors in a small factory 895 00:46:44,175 --> 00:46:48,415 Speaker 3: that he established in Grace Avenue, and Worry Papa Toy 896 00:46:49,335 --> 00:46:53,135 Speaker 3: and obviously Roger Goldfinchers were down there as well. Duffer 897 00:46:53,335 --> 00:46:56,895 Speaker 3: he was actually was a polystyrene manufacturing factory across the 898 00:46:57,015 --> 00:46:59,815 Speaker 3: road that burnt down one night. That was kind of 899 00:46:59,855 --> 00:47:03,055 Speaker 3: scary but kind of exciting as well. And a couple 900 00:47:03,055 --> 00:47:05,535 Speaker 3: of other businesses that I still remember from back in 901 00:47:05,535 --> 00:47:08,335 Speaker 3: the day. One hundred and eighty eighty is that number 902 00:47:08,375 --> 00:47:10,575 Speaker 3: to call Grant A very good morning to you, sir. 903 00:47:11,415 --> 00:47:14,815 Speaker 5: Yeah, Hyde, just some ideas with the door, sure, okay, 904 00:47:14,855 --> 00:47:18,455 Speaker 5: so the old doors have the old star remotes just 905 00:47:18,495 --> 00:47:20,895 Speaker 5: with you a little battery in it, but they are 906 00:47:20,975 --> 00:47:25,535 Speaker 5: they are prone to being opened by people that might 907 00:47:25,575 --> 00:47:30,575 Speaker 5: have scanners unfortunately or something else. Some of the new 908 00:47:31,175 --> 00:47:37,415 Speaker 5: doors have Wi Fi opening. Ah, so that's quite good. 909 00:47:37,655 --> 00:47:38,855 Speaker 5: That's much much better. 910 00:47:40,255 --> 00:47:42,215 Speaker 3: This is a new door, by the way, so it's 911 00:47:42,255 --> 00:47:45,375 Speaker 3: a replacement door that's been installed and now they've got 912 00:47:45,455 --> 00:47:48,055 Speaker 3: this issue where it's intermittent. 913 00:47:49,415 --> 00:47:52,335 Speaker 5: So here's a remedy for those people that have the 914 00:47:52,335 --> 00:47:55,815 Speaker 5: old remote but might be having this problem of the 915 00:47:55,855 --> 00:47:59,055 Speaker 5: door it's on the opening or finding it open. It 916 00:47:59,095 --> 00:48:01,415 Speaker 5: may have been just you know, like for instance, there's 917 00:48:02,255 --> 00:48:07,055 Speaker 5: it was a scenario of certain vehicles run at certain 918 00:48:07,095 --> 00:48:10,415 Speaker 5: frequencies going past the street and doors kind of opening. 919 00:48:11,015 --> 00:48:14,735 Speaker 5: You might have heard about that before. Well, anyway, we'll 920 00:48:15,095 --> 00:48:18,335 Speaker 5: forget about that. But for that lady, she's just got 921 00:48:18,375 --> 00:48:23,375 Speaker 5: a old style remote. But if she, if she has 922 00:48:23,415 --> 00:48:29,855 Speaker 5: a smartphone and maybe WiFi, has put a little Wi 923 00:48:29,895 --> 00:48:35,455 Speaker 5: Fi plug between on on that circuit that she can 924 00:48:35,535 --> 00:48:40,695 Speaker 5: turn on as she drives up. She can pack up 925 00:48:40,935 --> 00:48:44,455 Speaker 5: for thirty seconds, use a smartphone to use it to 926 00:48:44,495 --> 00:48:48,055 Speaker 5: turn the Wi Fi plug on which powers the powers 927 00:48:48,095 --> 00:48:51,455 Speaker 5: the door, and then she can use her remote and 928 00:48:51,495 --> 00:48:56,215 Speaker 5: then and then when she's left left the building, she 929 00:48:56,215 --> 00:48:58,295 Speaker 5: can turn the Wi Fi plug off and she knows 930 00:48:58,335 --> 00:49:04,655 Speaker 5: that the the door is who's not being powered she's away. Okay, 931 00:49:05,095 --> 00:49:08,255 Speaker 5: Wi Fi plug, you'd flail all for about twenty bucks 932 00:49:08,655 --> 00:49:12,535 Speaker 5: and then just and then just program it with your 933 00:49:13,655 --> 00:49:17,735 Speaker 5: your Wi Fi Internet and your your that goes with 934 00:49:17,775 --> 00:49:18,615 Speaker 5: the Wi Fi plug. 935 00:49:19,615 --> 00:49:22,015 Speaker 3: Would that mean that it would override the remote? 936 00:49:22,055 --> 00:49:22,135 Speaker 1: Like? 937 00:49:22,215 --> 00:49:24,375 Speaker 3: Could she have both systems operating? 938 00:49:25,215 --> 00:49:28,495 Speaker 5: The Wi Fi plug is? All it's doing is turning 939 00:49:28,495 --> 00:49:32,375 Speaker 5: on the power to the door, right, So the first 940 00:49:32,415 --> 00:49:34,815 Speaker 5: thing you do is you just drive up to the door, 941 00:49:35,415 --> 00:49:38,615 Speaker 5: go to your smartphone and the Wi Fi plug on 942 00:49:39,575 --> 00:49:43,015 Speaker 5: the door, then hit the remote and up comes the door. 943 00:49:42,975 --> 00:49:45,215 Speaker 3: And you can do that Wi Fi plug just in 944 00:49:45,255 --> 00:49:48,335 Speaker 3: that individual plug. It's not like a smart wiring with 945 00:49:48,495 --> 00:49:49,215 Speaker 3: throughout the house. 946 00:49:49,615 --> 00:49:53,735 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, there's quite a few. There's for instance, just 947 00:49:55,455 --> 00:50:00,975 Speaker 5: for when I know quite close by that that that 948 00:50:01,095 --> 00:50:06,855 Speaker 5: door is, how just off a conventional plug that's in 949 00:50:06,895 --> 00:50:10,695 Speaker 5: the garage way and you just put it, plug it in, 950 00:50:11,015 --> 00:50:14,935 Speaker 5: plug it into the wall socket and then plug the 951 00:50:14,975 --> 00:50:19,175 Speaker 5: cord from the from the door into the brilliant into 952 00:50:19,175 --> 00:50:20,015 Speaker 5: the Wi Fi plug. 953 00:50:20,135 --> 00:50:21,295 Speaker 4: Well, I appreciate that ground. 954 00:50:21,495 --> 00:50:23,935 Speaker 3: That's awesome, much appreciate it. You have a great day 955 00:50:24,175 --> 00:50:27,495 Speaker 3: actually talking about power this week, there's a place that 956 00:50:27,535 --> 00:50:30,615 Speaker 3: I look after, and there was there's been some infrastructure 957 00:50:30,655 --> 00:50:35,255 Speaker 3: upgrade work happening in the street, including a notice that hey, look, 958 00:50:35,255 --> 00:50:37,775 Speaker 3: the power is going to be off while we underground 959 00:50:38,535 --> 00:50:41,375 Speaker 3: power to a certain number of houses, including the one 960 00:50:41,375 --> 00:50:45,495 Speaker 3: that I look after, and so there's been correspondent. So 961 00:50:45,455 --> 00:50:47,415 Speaker 3: over the last couple of weeks there's been activity in 962 00:50:47,455 --> 00:50:50,495 Speaker 3: the street. There's been excavations and there's been you know, 963 00:50:50,655 --> 00:50:54,295 Speaker 3: patching of pavement and excavation of pavement and installation of pits. 964 00:50:54,655 --> 00:50:58,455 Speaker 3: And then was it Tuesday they came along and livened 965 00:50:58,535 --> 00:51:01,415 Speaker 3: up the new underground supply to the house, which also 966 00:51:01,575 --> 00:51:07,335 Speaker 3: means new cable into the meter board outside. Then electrical 967 00:51:07,335 --> 00:51:11,415 Speaker 3: inspectors have to come through and test the connection so 968 00:51:11,575 --> 00:51:16,255 Speaker 3: independently of the contractor and then confirm that that's safe 969 00:51:16,295 --> 00:51:18,055 Speaker 3: and then the power could go back on and the 970 00:51:18,095 --> 00:51:22,815 Speaker 3: guys are up, you know, unclipping overheadlines and all phenomenal 971 00:51:22,855 --> 00:51:25,495 Speaker 3: to watch. It's quite more actually, and they did an 972 00:51:25,495 --> 00:51:28,215 Speaker 3: awesome job, which is great. Oh eight hundred eighty ten 973 00:51:28,295 --> 00:51:31,295 Speaker 3: eighty we'll talk someone text through before can I talk 974 00:51:31,335 --> 00:51:32,255 Speaker 3: to you about power tools? 975 00:51:32,575 --> 00:51:35,215 Speaker 4: Mate? We can talk about power tools all day long. 976 00:51:35,375 --> 00:51:35,935 Speaker 4: Give us a call. 977 00:51:36,015 --> 00:51:40,735 Speaker 3: I eight hundred eighty ten eighty when New Talk said 978 00:51:40,775 --> 00:51:44,735 Speaker 3: B and we're I've unplugged myself. 979 00:51:46,775 --> 00:51:47,375 Speaker 4: Don't worry. 980 00:51:47,815 --> 00:51:51,055 Speaker 3: I'm not as incompetent with tools in the house. I 981 00:51:51,175 --> 00:51:53,535 Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. 982 00:51:53,655 --> 00:51:55,015 Speaker 3: Matt A very good morning. 983 00:51:55,975 --> 00:51:57,535 Speaker 4: Oh, good morning morning mate? 984 00:51:57,655 --> 00:52:01,375 Speaker 11: You do yeah, yeah, very good, look like chext through 985 00:52:02,095 --> 00:52:07,255 Speaker 11: saying can we hear the talk about tools as some advice. 986 00:52:07,655 --> 00:52:10,335 Speaker 11: I've just borrowing a table sawer from my father in law, 987 00:52:11,215 --> 00:52:13,975 Speaker 11: an older one, and I'm quite keen to buy one, 988 00:52:14,015 --> 00:52:15,855 Speaker 11: but he's such a variety out there. 989 00:52:16,255 --> 00:52:19,335 Speaker 14: Yes, and I'm not very good at. 990 00:52:19,175 --> 00:52:22,015 Speaker 11: Buying just rubbish tools. I'm a bit of a kida person. 991 00:52:22,215 --> 00:52:27,175 Speaker 11: I've got some old Tashi Jop saws and I'd like 992 00:52:27,215 --> 00:52:29,655 Speaker 11: to stay within one of those brands. But I mean, 993 00:52:29,655 --> 00:52:33,695 Speaker 11: there's so much variety in the cost. You know, just 994 00:52:33,695 --> 00:52:35,935 Speaker 11: a bit of advice about you know what you should 995 00:52:35,935 --> 00:52:36,375 Speaker 11: be looking at? 996 00:52:36,415 --> 00:52:39,855 Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, and look. 997 00:52:39,695 --> 00:52:44,215 Speaker 3: It is a it's a tricky one in that You're right, 998 00:52:44,295 --> 00:52:47,615 Speaker 3: there is a lot of variety and there's a there's 999 00:52:47,735 --> 00:52:51,535 Speaker 3: variety in terms of quality, and it's it's it's often 1000 00:52:51,735 --> 00:52:55,495 Speaker 3: about like we know that there are like you can 1001 00:52:55,535 --> 00:52:57,655 Speaker 3: buy a cordless drell for one hundred and twenty bucks, right, 1002 00:52:58,095 --> 00:53:00,335 Speaker 3: and you can buy a cordless drill for five hundred 1003 00:53:00,335 --> 00:53:06,095 Speaker 3: bucks and both of them ultimately drill holes. Right, But 1004 00:53:07,415 --> 00:53:10,135 Speaker 3: the difference is often around run time. 1005 00:53:10,375 --> 00:53:10,615 Speaker 4: Right. 1006 00:53:10,935 --> 00:53:14,455 Speaker 3: It's about you as a user, how much time are 1007 00:53:14,495 --> 00:53:16,735 Speaker 3: you going to be using it and sort of what 1008 00:53:16,815 --> 00:53:20,215 Speaker 3: performance do you need from it. If you're working around 1009 00:53:20,215 --> 00:53:23,215 Speaker 3: the home and you use it intermittently, then chances are 1010 00:53:23,215 --> 00:53:28,855 Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty dollars cordless drill, for example, will 1011 00:53:28,895 --> 00:53:31,775 Speaker 3: do what you need it to do ninety five percent 1012 00:53:31,815 --> 00:53:35,215 Speaker 3: of the time. Now, if you're a commercial operator and you're, 1013 00:53:35,295 --> 00:53:37,815 Speaker 3: for example, screwing roofing down or something like that, and 1014 00:53:37,855 --> 00:53:40,495 Speaker 3: you're doing that all day long, then you're going to 1015 00:53:40,535 --> 00:53:43,095 Speaker 3: need to choose something from the other end of the range. 1016 00:53:44,095 --> 00:53:46,815 Speaker 3: Table saws. I guess if I was choosing one and 1017 00:53:46,815 --> 00:53:48,655 Speaker 3: I'm thinking about the one that I've got at home 1018 00:53:48,735 --> 00:53:52,255 Speaker 3: without revealing what that particular brand might be. One of 1019 00:53:52,255 --> 00:53:54,455 Speaker 3: the things that I'm often really critical about some of 1020 00:53:54,495 --> 00:53:57,455 Speaker 3: the table saws is they only clamp at one side. 1021 00:53:57,535 --> 00:54:01,175 Speaker 3: So the ripping guide right the fence I think should 1022 00:54:01,175 --> 00:54:03,695 Speaker 3: be able to be clamped or should clamp and locate 1023 00:54:03,775 --> 00:54:07,615 Speaker 3: at both ends of the guide, because that holds it 1024 00:54:07,735 --> 00:54:10,015 Speaker 3: a lot more secure than just being at one end 1025 00:54:10,015 --> 00:54:12,175 Speaker 3: of the guide. So that would be part of my 1026 00:54:12,255 --> 00:54:15,335 Speaker 3: criteria there. The other thing is, I guess I know 1027 00:54:15,495 --> 00:54:18,495 Speaker 3: power tools are expensive, particularly if you buy them brand new. 1028 00:54:19,455 --> 00:54:22,335 Speaker 3: Over the years, I've actually bought a reasonable amount of 1029 00:54:22,415 --> 00:54:27,495 Speaker 3: gear secondhand, and sometimes that can be quite I mean, 1030 00:54:28,175 --> 00:54:29,935 Speaker 3: sometimes you can end up with rubbish, so you've got 1031 00:54:29,975 --> 00:54:33,495 Speaker 3: to be a bit careful. I absolutely loathe with a 1032 00:54:33,575 --> 00:54:37,095 Speaker 3: passion people that steal power tools and then sell them. 1033 00:54:37,295 --> 00:54:39,775 Speaker 3: So I think you've got to be super cautious around 1034 00:54:40,255 --> 00:54:43,735 Speaker 3: buying from some one who you think might have stolen 1035 00:54:43,815 --> 00:54:47,415 Speaker 3: or come into possession of stolen goods. So you've got 1036 00:54:47,455 --> 00:54:48,575 Speaker 3: to be a bit careful around that. 1037 00:54:50,295 --> 00:54:50,735 Speaker 4: Seriously. 1038 00:54:50,775 --> 00:54:51,295 Speaker 15: I love. 1039 00:54:53,055 --> 00:54:57,775 Speaker 11: A real market for that type of stolen tols, and 1040 00:54:57,815 --> 00:55:01,175 Speaker 11: you know, very hard to people don't record these serial 1041 00:55:01,255 --> 00:55:02,775 Speaker 11: numbers and all that sort of you know, you sort 1042 00:55:02,775 --> 00:55:03,535 Speaker 11: of going off track of. 1043 00:55:03,535 --> 00:55:06,095 Speaker 3: That, no, but look on that though, like a thing 1044 00:55:06,095 --> 00:55:09,095 Speaker 3: that I have been part of and I would encourage 1045 00:55:09,095 --> 00:55:11,695 Speaker 3: as the police through some of their community policing thing, 1046 00:55:12,215 --> 00:55:17,535 Speaker 3: we'll do programs with they'll they'll engrave or get tradees 1047 00:55:17,535 --> 00:55:21,175 Speaker 3: to engrave their driver's license number onto their power tools. 1048 00:55:21,175 --> 00:55:24,935 Speaker 3: And I've done exactly the same with mine, so you know, 1049 00:55:25,055 --> 00:55:27,495 Speaker 3: all of my gear has got my driver's license on it, 1050 00:55:27,775 --> 00:55:30,695 Speaker 3: because you know, I might paint my tools green and go, 1051 00:55:30,735 --> 00:55:32,775 Speaker 3: oh that's great, now I know which are mine. But 1052 00:55:32,855 --> 00:55:35,535 Speaker 3: if the police, you know, kick the door down on 1053 00:55:35,575 --> 00:55:38,295 Speaker 3: a meth house right and find there's a room full 1054 00:55:38,295 --> 00:55:41,295 Speaker 3: of power tools, and this is exactly what happens, and 1055 00:55:41,335 --> 00:55:44,655 Speaker 3: then hey, look, you know I've painted mine green or I've. 1056 00:55:44,495 --> 00:55:47,135 Speaker 4: Put p W on it. Well, who the hell's p W? 1057 00:55:47,535 --> 00:55:47,735 Speaker 4: You know? 1058 00:55:47,935 --> 00:55:50,575 Speaker 3: I mean, Whereas if you've got the driver's license, even 1059 00:55:50,615 --> 00:55:52,935 Speaker 3: if it's not your, you know, like let's say I've 1060 00:55:52,935 --> 00:55:55,895 Speaker 3: sold it to you, right, but at least if it 1061 00:55:55,935 --> 00:55:58,615 Speaker 3: gets pinched from you, then they'll contact me and I'll go, oh, 1062 00:55:58,615 --> 00:56:00,335 Speaker 3: that's right. I sold it to Matt a couple of 1063 00:56:00,415 --> 00:56:03,335 Speaker 3: years ago, you know, and it's legitimate, So I think 1064 00:56:03,335 --> 00:56:05,975 Speaker 3: that's great. But it look in terms of selecting the 1065 00:56:05,975 --> 00:56:08,375 Speaker 3: power I think you've got to look at obviously you've 1066 00:56:08,375 --> 00:56:09,975 Speaker 3: got to look at price, you've got to look at 1067 00:56:09,975 --> 00:56:14,055 Speaker 3: some of the basic features that the tool will have. 1068 00:56:15,775 --> 00:56:18,415 Speaker 3: And you know, again you might end up spending not 1069 00:56:18,535 --> 00:56:21,055 Speaker 3: that much on a table sort for example, but it does, 1070 00:56:21,535 --> 00:56:23,775 Speaker 3: you know, like I think it's really important. The guide 1071 00:56:23,815 --> 00:56:27,175 Speaker 3: gets clamped at both ends. And then sometimes what happens 1072 00:56:27,215 --> 00:56:30,335 Speaker 3: with more budget tools is they come with not particularly 1073 00:56:30,335 --> 00:56:33,455 Speaker 3: good quality blades. So often swapping the blade out and 1074 00:56:33,495 --> 00:56:36,175 Speaker 3: getting a really good blade into it can actually make 1075 00:56:36,215 --> 00:56:37,975 Speaker 3: the difference. But all you know, but you've got to 1076 00:56:37,975 --> 00:56:41,175 Speaker 3: be realistic too, And I get frustrated with people that go, oh, look, 1077 00:56:41,415 --> 00:56:43,015 Speaker 3: I bought this table saw and it cost me four 1078 00:56:43,055 --> 00:56:45,375 Speaker 3: hundred bucks and I was trying to rip down, you know, 1079 00:56:45,535 --> 00:56:50,695 Speaker 3: forty meters of hardwood and it's darnell. You know, seriously, mate, 1080 00:56:50,695 --> 00:56:53,215 Speaker 3: that's that's not what you should be doing with that tool. 1081 00:56:55,295 --> 00:56:57,775 Speaker 11: Do you do you have anything to say? You know, 1082 00:56:57,895 --> 00:57:00,815 Speaker 11: sort of right, the wattage one of the themes I'm 1083 00:57:00,815 --> 00:57:05,095 Speaker 11: looking at. It's been a thousand odd dollars. Yeah, it's 1084 00:57:05,135 --> 00:57:08,655 Speaker 11: good quality, comes with the built in stein, it's got 1085 00:57:09,135 --> 00:57:12,775 Speaker 11: an arbor, so you put data or data blade into it. 1086 00:57:14,175 --> 00:57:16,615 Speaker 11: Rack and pinion. But it's only fifteen hundred. 1087 00:57:16,615 --> 00:57:19,335 Speaker 4: What I think fifteen hundred will would do? 1088 00:57:19,415 --> 00:57:19,615 Speaker 7: You? 1089 00:57:21,335 --> 00:57:25,135 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 1090 00:57:25,175 --> 00:57:28,255 Speaker 11: Oh and I agree around what you said about Second 1091 00:57:28,295 --> 00:57:31,375 Speaker 11: End at tools of just can I speak to that brand? 1092 00:57:31,575 --> 00:57:33,335 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't mind you you can. 1093 00:57:34,855 --> 00:57:39,295 Speaker 11: So, yeah, good Second End HTASHI older model C or 1094 00:57:39,175 --> 00:57:47,535 Speaker 11: seating FSB condition, A good solid saw, really well looked after. 1095 00:57:48,695 --> 00:57:50,495 Speaker 11: I think, you know, that's a lifetime saw. 1096 00:57:50,775 --> 00:57:56,135 Speaker 3: I ran that saw for about fifteen years, so I 1097 00:57:56,535 --> 00:58:01,055 Speaker 3: know it intimately in a sense. They're awesome, they really are. 1098 00:58:02,055 --> 00:58:03,775 Speaker 11: Yeah, And then you know, I know they're not. You 1099 00:58:03,815 --> 00:58:06,815 Speaker 11: know a lot of people going to these forty volt systems, 1100 00:58:06,895 --> 00:58:09,695 Speaker 11: but you know for power or brilliant. 1101 00:58:10,335 --> 00:58:11,335 Speaker 4: Yeah, I haven't. 1102 00:58:11,535 --> 00:58:14,375 Speaker 3: I haven't moved to that yet, but you know, at 1103 00:58:14,375 --> 00:58:17,735 Speaker 3: this point in time, like the the two drop saws 1104 00:58:17,775 --> 00:58:21,495 Speaker 3: that I have fine, right, so I don't need to upgrade. Certainly, 1105 00:58:21,535 --> 00:58:23,975 Speaker 3: I know a lot of a lot of contractors who 1106 00:58:24,015 --> 00:58:28,535 Speaker 3: are moving to cordless drop saws, and by all accounts, 1107 00:58:28,815 --> 00:58:31,095 Speaker 3: you know, I'm still getting my head around the performance there, 1108 00:58:31,135 --> 00:58:33,935 Speaker 3: but it's it's pretty damn good to be fair. 1109 00:58:34,335 --> 00:58:37,415 Speaker 11: Yeah, that main and mine has got a forty volt. 1110 00:58:37,735 --> 00:58:40,975 Speaker 11: It's brilliant. However it's a lot more money. 1111 00:58:41,455 --> 00:58:44,575 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, again, you know, it's one of those things 1112 00:58:44,575 --> 00:58:47,175 Speaker 3: that if, for example, you're like for finishing work for 1113 00:58:47,455 --> 00:58:49,895 Speaker 3: you know, if you're moving around the house doing finishing work, 1114 00:58:50,815 --> 00:58:54,455 Speaker 3: I think having a cordless or battery powered set up 1115 00:58:54,655 --> 00:58:57,695 Speaker 3: is fantastic. If you're working in a site where power 1116 00:58:57,735 --> 00:59:00,535 Speaker 3: is a little bit unreliable, then that's fantastic as well. 1117 00:59:00,575 --> 00:59:05,015 Speaker 3: But most of the time, I mean yeah, I mean, look, 1118 00:59:05,055 --> 00:59:08,695 Speaker 3: I to be fair, I've still got, for example, a 1119 00:59:08,815 --> 00:59:12,415 Speaker 3: corded skill saw at home. Have I used it much 1120 00:59:12,575 --> 00:59:13,815 Speaker 3: over the last couple of years. 1121 00:59:14,095 --> 00:59:14,135 Speaker 1: No. 1122 00:59:15,335 --> 00:59:19,055 Speaker 3: Does the battery powered gear that I've got suffice for 1123 00:59:19,655 --> 00:59:22,375 Speaker 3: ninety nine percent of what I do one hundred percent. 1124 00:59:22,615 --> 00:59:29,775 Speaker 3: It's amazing how quickly we've swapped across. Yeah, chat, okay, buddy, 1125 00:59:29,855 --> 00:59:34,655 Speaker 3: take care. All the best followed then, Pete. Someone buying 1126 00:59:34,655 --> 00:59:37,295 Speaker 3: a table so should also get a good pusher such 1127 00:59:37,335 --> 00:59:40,015 Speaker 3: as the gripper to save their hands and fingers. Cheers 1128 00:59:40,015 --> 00:59:42,975 Speaker 3: from Moz If you're wondering what that is, it's like 1129 00:59:43,415 --> 00:59:45,895 Speaker 3: you shouldn't have your fingers any w near the blade, right, 1130 00:59:46,215 --> 00:59:49,655 Speaker 3: So typically if you're cutting something that's smaller and you need. 1131 00:59:49,895 --> 00:59:51,895 Speaker 3: It needs to be close to the blade. Then you 1132 00:59:52,015 --> 00:59:54,535 Speaker 3: end up with a push stick and you can get 1133 00:59:54,615 --> 00:59:57,415 Speaker 3: flash ones like the gripper and things like that. To 1134 00:59:57,455 --> 00:59:59,655 Speaker 3: be fair, I make my own. I've made a number 1135 00:59:59,695 --> 01:00:01,815 Speaker 3: of them over the years, and if you look online 1136 01:00:01,815 --> 01:00:04,495 Speaker 3: there's all sorts of different varieties and so on. The 1137 01:00:04,535 --> 01:00:06,095 Speaker 3: one that I made the other day has got a 1138 01:00:06,135 --> 01:00:09,495 Speaker 3: lot handle on the top works absolutely fine. Oh, eight 1139 01:00:09,575 --> 01:00:11,975 Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. 1140 01:00:12,095 --> 01:00:13,135 Speaker 4: Do we take break? 1141 01:00:13,255 --> 01:00:15,975 Speaker 3: I think so let's do that and a bunch of 1142 01:00:16,095 --> 01:00:18,855 Speaker 3: great texts as well. With regard to power tools, more 1143 01:00:18,895 --> 01:00:24,855 Speaker 3: than happy to talk tools, particularly around you know, I 1144 01:00:24,895 --> 01:00:29,095 Speaker 3: suppose it's a competency thing where you need to have 1145 01:00:29,135 --> 01:00:33,815 Speaker 3: the time on the tool to become competent in its 1146 01:00:34,135 --> 01:00:38,735 Speaker 3: use without becoming complacent, because that's that's when things go wrong. 1147 01:00:38,975 --> 01:00:40,815 Speaker 3: We'll come back and talk more about tools. We'll talk 1148 01:00:40,855 --> 01:00:43,135 Speaker 3: all things building construction here at new Stalk SeeDB. The 1149 01:00:43,175 --> 01:00:45,455 Speaker 3: lines are open. The number is eight hundred and eighty 1150 01:00:45,495 --> 01:00:46,975 Speaker 3: ten eighty back in a moment your. 1151 01:00:46,935 --> 01:00:47,575 Speaker 4: News stalk s hed B. 1152 01:00:47,735 --> 01:00:49,615 Speaker 3: And to be fair, I'm kind of in a happy 1153 01:00:49,615 --> 01:00:51,735 Speaker 3: place talking about power tools, so we can talk power tools. 1154 01:00:51,735 --> 01:00:54,295 Speaker 3: We can talk power tool safety usage and that sort 1155 01:00:54,295 --> 01:00:57,215 Speaker 3: of thing, and it's I'm very much in favor of 1156 01:00:57,255 --> 01:00:59,055 Speaker 3: you encouraging. 1157 01:00:58,495 --> 01:00:59,255 Speaker 4: Anyone to. 1158 01:01:01,415 --> 01:01:05,655 Speaker 3: Purchase and use and develop their skills with power tools. 1159 01:01:06,415 --> 01:01:11,215 Speaker 3: So I'm very conscious, having, you know, years and years 1160 01:01:11,455 --> 01:01:14,975 Speaker 3: of working with people, some of whom have had life 1161 01:01:15,095 --> 01:01:20,415 Speaker 3: changing injuries as a result of incidents involving power tools, 1162 01:01:20,415 --> 01:01:24,695 Speaker 3: that safety is also powera amount that I'm absolutely convinced to. 1163 01:01:24,855 --> 01:01:30,255 Speaker 3: Safety always, most cases always comes down to the competency 1164 01:01:30,415 --> 01:01:34,055 Speaker 3: and the attitude and the awareness of the operator. 1165 01:01:34,855 --> 01:01:35,295 Speaker 4: Every now and. 1166 01:01:35,335 --> 01:01:38,135 Speaker 3: Then, you know, tools will kind of bite you in 1167 01:01:38,495 --> 01:01:41,175 Speaker 3: the sense that they fail and that becomes a problem. 1168 01:01:41,175 --> 01:01:44,615 Speaker 3: But nine times out of ten, it's always about the operator. 1169 01:01:44,655 --> 01:01:46,815 Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. 1170 01:01:46,855 --> 01:01:48,175 Speaker 4: Parvin. Good morning to you. 1171 01:01:49,455 --> 01:01:49,855 Speaker 15: How are you? 1172 01:01:50,255 --> 01:01:50,735 Speaker 4: Good morning? 1173 01:01:50,735 --> 01:01:56,335 Speaker 14: I'm well, thanks, sadly about I've got about nineteen seventy 1174 01:01:56,375 --> 01:01:59,175 Speaker 14: property and when it rains, not every time, but it's 1175 01:01:59,335 --> 01:02:02,135 Speaker 14: what it comes through the popular window into the house. Yep, 1176 01:02:03,015 --> 01:02:05,055 Speaker 14: you haven't heard of anything like that before. What the 1177 01:02:05,095 --> 01:02:06,295 Speaker 14: best way we live that would be? 1178 01:02:08,295 --> 01:02:11,415 Speaker 3: It really comes down to finding out where and why, right, 1179 01:02:12,135 --> 01:02:13,975 Speaker 3: so you can fix it if you know exactly where 1180 01:02:13,975 --> 01:02:17,455 Speaker 3: it's coming from. It's interesting that it owns it doesn't 1181 01:02:17,495 --> 01:02:21,135 Speaker 3: happen every time it rains. So what that tells me 1182 01:02:21,295 --> 01:02:24,135 Speaker 3: is that it's about a combination of wind. 1183 01:02:23,935 --> 01:02:28,855 Speaker 14: And rain that kind of kind We didn't rule it that, 1184 01:02:28,935 --> 01:02:31,775 Speaker 14: but we're not that could or not because that even 1185 01:02:31,815 --> 01:02:36,655 Speaker 14: on non wind as it's come through as well close 1186 01:02:36,695 --> 01:02:40,935 Speaker 14: to the window, yes, and worked our way good. We 1187 01:02:41,655 --> 01:02:46,655 Speaker 14: couldn't just kind of like, yeah, lostedness system. 1188 01:02:47,695 --> 01:02:50,415 Speaker 3: So when you've if you're using a hose and ideally 1189 01:02:50,575 --> 01:02:52,695 Speaker 3: not you know, with the hose on direct but use 1190 01:02:52,735 --> 01:02:55,895 Speaker 3: it like the soaka setting or a sprinkler setting or 1191 01:02:55,895 --> 01:02:58,095 Speaker 3: a shower setting or something like that, so that you've 1192 01:02:58,095 --> 01:03:02,975 Speaker 3: got trying to replicate normal weather conditions and you couldn't 1193 01:03:03,095 --> 01:03:03,735 Speaker 3: make it leak. 1194 01:03:04,095 --> 01:03:06,535 Speaker 4: Then no, it did that. 1195 01:03:06,735 --> 01:03:08,175 Speaker 14: We got to a stadium, it didn't it, but you 1196 01:03:08,175 --> 01:03:11,295 Speaker 14: couldn't stand to exactly. We kind of feeled the whole 1197 01:03:11,295 --> 01:03:12,055 Speaker 14: area of ceiling. 1198 01:03:12,455 --> 01:03:13,335 Speaker 15: Yep, and we thought. 1199 01:03:14,855 --> 01:03:16,455 Speaker 14: About two three weeks later. 1200 01:03:17,935 --> 01:03:26,495 Speaker 3: Okay, right, Yeah, it definitely only leaks when it rains. Yes, Okay, Now, 1201 01:03:26,535 --> 01:03:29,175 Speaker 3: because it's a question I often ask people because sometimes 1202 01:03:29,295 --> 01:03:31,335 Speaker 3: in fact the leak is not about the weather. 1203 01:03:31,455 --> 01:03:32,935 Speaker 4: It's about a pipe for example. 1204 01:03:33,975 --> 01:03:34,415 Speaker 14: True. 1205 01:03:34,535 --> 01:03:39,655 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's just a sort of process of elimination, right, yeah, 1206 01:03:40,255 --> 01:03:43,575 Speaker 3: I aluminium jewry, timber jowinery. 1207 01:03:44,095 --> 01:03:48,175 Speaker 14: Timber jewry. It's kind of weather on. It's got flatboards 1208 01:03:48,175 --> 01:03:49,895 Speaker 14: in the middle with the window that she placed in the. 1209 01:03:49,935 --> 01:03:53,015 Speaker 3: Building, and above the window. What happens above the window 1210 01:03:53,255 --> 01:03:55,295 Speaker 3: how far up to either the roof or to the 1211 01:03:55,335 --> 01:03:56,175 Speaker 3: second story. 1212 01:03:56,575 --> 01:03:58,575 Speaker 14: It goes to a second story to another window which 1213 01:03:58,615 --> 01:04:00,975 Speaker 14: doesn't which is really kind of strange because of this 1214 01:04:01,055 --> 01:04:03,135 Speaker 14: window one above the other ones one on one story, 1215 01:04:03,175 --> 01:04:05,095 Speaker 14: ones on the other, the top one doesn't think. 1216 01:04:04,975 --> 01:04:10,455 Speaker 3: It's unless potentially what's happening is that the top one 1217 01:04:10,535 --> 01:04:13,375 Speaker 3: does leak, but it leaks at the sill and the 1218 01:04:13,415 --> 01:04:17,735 Speaker 3: water is draining down through the building envelope, and then 1219 01:04:18,055 --> 01:04:21,495 Speaker 3: you're seeing it on the lower story window. Does it 1220 01:04:21,575 --> 01:04:23,575 Speaker 3: leak at the top of the bottom of the window. 1221 01:04:24,215 --> 01:04:26,495 Speaker 14: Top of the window comes through that l like you know, 1222 01:04:26,575 --> 01:04:28,935 Speaker 14: you've got a window frame that comes from the top 1223 01:04:28,975 --> 01:04:31,655 Speaker 14: of the frame. Basically just kind of natally, it's quite 1224 01:04:31,735 --> 01:04:35,095 Speaker 14: hard sometimes, you know, it's just like when it's coming 1225 01:04:35,135 --> 01:04:37,735 Speaker 14: through quite a lot, and it's sometimes it's just a 1226 01:04:37,815 --> 01:04:40,295 Speaker 14: light to drop. Sometimes I'm not a gash of that 1227 01:04:40,375 --> 01:04:42,455 Speaker 14: comes down quite a lot of them. 1228 01:04:43,055 --> 01:04:47,135 Speaker 3: Yeah, So when you were using the hose to get 1229 01:04:47,175 --> 01:04:49,735 Speaker 3: it to leak, did it leak when you were on 1230 01:04:49,775 --> 01:04:51,575 Speaker 3: the lower window? If you work from the sill up 1231 01:04:51,615 --> 01:04:53,935 Speaker 3: to the head, did it leak when you hit the head? 1232 01:04:54,175 --> 01:04:54,575 Speaker 4: It did? 1233 01:04:54,735 --> 01:04:57,895 Speaker 14: Okay, not a centure? 1234 01:04:57,975 --> 01:05:02,895 Speaker 5: Yeah right, yeah. 1235 01:05:03,295 --> 01:05:06,215 Speaker 3: Have you had a professional coming hell look around, because. 1236 01:05:05,975 --> 01:05:08,295 Speaker 11: It look at it and he went through and sealed 1237 01:05:08,295 --> 01:05:08,775 Speaker 11: it as well. 1238 01:05:08,815 --> 01:05:10,935 Speaker 14: But he's said, of failing that, you must have the whole. 1239 01:05:10,735 --> 01:05:14,095 Speaker 3: Wall off and kind of investigate where it's actually coming from. 1240 01:05:14,415 --> 01:05:18,535 Speaker 14: Pretty much. Yeah, basically, yeah, yeah, that's what I got. 1241 01:05:18,655 --> 01:05:22,375 Speaker 14: Just another quick fixel that the way that because I've 1242 01:05:22,375 --> 01:05:24,975 Speaker 14: seen the stuff on TV, like I'm not onto, but 1243 01:05:25,055 --> 01:05:29,495 Speaker 14: on Edge on Facebook where people put like a spray 1244 01:05:29,655 --> 01:05:30,415 Speaker 14: or silicons. 1245 01:05:30,615 --> 01:05:33,375 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I've used those. 1246 01:05:34,375 --> 01:05:36,935 Speaker 3: I've used those in the right setting, so for example, 1247 01:05:37,455 --> 01:05:40,415 Speaker 3: corner of the spouting where the ceilant might have broken down, right, 1248 01:05:40,935 --> 01:05:44,215 Speaker 3: or a long flashing where there's a junction that might 1249 01:05:44,255 --> 01:05:47,495 Speaker 3: need to be sealed, or I think I even used 1250 01:05:47,535 --> 01:05:50,335 Speaker 3: it on some really rotten clear light roofing and just 1251 01:05:50,455 --> 01:05:52,735 Speaker 3: sprayed that over the top and it kind of worked 1252 01:05:52,735 --> 01:05:55,575 Speaker 3: as a temporary fix. But in terms of effects for 1253 01:05:55,655 --> 01:05:58,655 Speaker 3: what you've got, I don't know that you would that. 1254 01:05:58,615 --> 01:05:59,495 Speaker 4: Would be the solution. 1255 01:05:59,575 --> 01:06:00,415 Speaker 14: I want to do that. 1256 01:06:00,495 --> 01:06:10,335 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, interesting that you like. If you can make 1257 01:06:10,375 --> 01:06:12,895 Speaker 3: it leak, typically you can then identify if you know 1258 01:06:12,935 --> 01:06:18,935 Speaker 3: where you're spraying the water, like when you do that investigation. Yeah, 1259 01:06:18,975 --> 01:06:23,015 Speaker 3: I think so, and do it with someone on the 1260 01:06:23,015 --> 01:06:26,975 Speaker 3: inside and someone on the outside so that you absolutely 1261 01:06:27,495 --> 01:06:31,455 Speaker 3: typically that should identify it. And so I guess there's 1262 01:06:31,455 --> 01:06:33,175 Speaker 3: a couple of things. One is it might be leaking 1263 01:06:33,215 --> 01:06:36,335 Speaker 3: around the actual window frame, right, so if a sash 1264 01:06:36,415 --> 01:06:39,095 Speaker 3: is not well fitted, you can get leakage around there. 1265 01:06:39,535 --> 01:06:44,015 Speaker 3: Typically it'll leak around the head flashing, but in this instance, 1266 01:06:44,055 --> 01:06:46,575 Speaker 3: with another window above, the leak might be happening there 1267 01:06:46,615 --> 01:06:50,215 Speaker 3: and coming down. So i'd have a look at the 1268 01:06:50,255 --> 01:06:53,775 Speaker 3: seal flashing there. Yeah, but apart from that, I think 1269 01:06:54,095 --> 01:06:56,295 Speaker 3: it might be a little bit on your own. Their pardon, 1270 01:06:56,855 --> 01:06:58,815 Speaker 3: good luck with it all. Oh, eight hundred and eighty 1271 01:06:58,895 --> 01:07:01,335 Speaker 3: ten eighty is then number to call. We will take 1272 01:07:01,335 --> 01:07:04,695 Speaker 3: another break. We'll come back to Leslie and a quick 1273 01:07:04,735 --> 01:07:06,055 Speaker 3: text on the powertool theme. 1274 01:07:06,415 --> 01:07:06,655 Speaker 4: Pick. 1275 01:07:06,735 --> 01:07:09,575 Speaker 3: My husband has an old saw bench which he got 1276 01:07:09,575 --> 01:07:13,095 Speaker 3: in the nineteen seventies, so it has no safety guard 1277 01:07:13,135 --> 01:07:18,335 Speaker 3: on it. Can I buy one from Mary? You'd have 1278 01:07:18,415 --> 01:07:21,055 Speaker 3: to scour, you know, trade me your second hand tools 1279 01:07:21,055 --> 01:07:23,335 Speaker 3: and that sort of thing to find one. I certainly 1280 01:07:23,335 --> 01:07:25,735 Speaker 3: don't think there'll be one on the shelves anymore. If 1281 01:07:25,735 --> 01:07:27,495 Speaker 3: it's a nineteen seventy one, it's probably a good old 1282 01:07:27,495 --> 01:07:30,895 Speaker 3: fashioned tenor that's what we had when I was doing 1283 01:07:30,935 --> 01:07:36,175 Speaker 3: my early years of building, big old heavy thing. Lugged 1284 01:07:36,175 --> 01:07:39,455 Speaker 3: it on and off the trailer like he rattled, and 1285 01:07:39,615 --> 01:07:42,655 Speaker 3: carried on cut plenty kitchens out with it, though. That 1286 01:07:42,775 --> 01:07:46,095 Speaker 3: was a remarkable thing. Hello as and cut them and 1287 01:07:46,095 --> 01:07:47,935 Speaker 3: made them not cut them up and got rid of 1288 01:07:47,935 --> 01:07:48,855 Speaker 3: them like we used to. 1289 01:07:48,855 --> 01:07:51,335 Speaker 4: Make our own kitchens, Leslie. Good morning to you. 1290 01:07:51,935 --> 01:07:55,615 Speaker 17: Yeah, good morning, Peter. Look I've got an area of 1291 01:07:55,695 --> 01:07:58,735 Speaker 17: backlawn i'm doing away with, and I've put down matting 1292 01:07:58,775 --> 01:08:01,135 Speaker 17: and I want to put some stones on top yep. 1293 01:08:01,295 --> 01:08:03,815 Speaker 17: And I went to the quarry the other day to 1294 01:08:03,935 --> 01:08:06,655 Speaker 17: find out, you know, because the guy asked what period 1295 01:08:06,695 --> 01:08:09,975 Speaker 17: is and it's five x seven meters, yes, And I 1296 01:08:10,015 --> 01:08:14,135 Speaker 17: couldn't understand how many stones, you know, he was talking 1297 01:08:14,295 --> 01:08:16,655 Speaker 17: meters or something. I just couldn't understand he. 1298 01:08:16,615 --> 01:08:21,455 Speaker 3: Would typically do a measurement in cubic meters. And so 1299 01:08:21,735 --> 01:08:26,935 Speaker 3: if so, it's five by seven year, right, and what 1300 01:08:27,015 --> 01:08:30,015 Speaker 3: type of stones are you talking? Like river pebbles that sort. 1301 01:08:29,815 --> 01:08:33,135 Speaker 17: Of thing, yes, yes, not too light, but not you 1302 01:08:33,415 --> 01:08:34,215 Speaker 17: not the big stone. 1303 01:08:34,495 --> 01:08:40,775 Speaker 3: Yeah, like a decorative pebble types thing. So you would 1304 01:08:40,855 --> 01:08:45,295 Speaker 3: probably put maybe fifty millimeters two inches of decorative pebble down. 1305 01:08:46,015 --> 01:08:48,295 Speaker 3: Anything less than that it would be hard to get cover. 1306 01:08:48,775 --> 01:08:53,735 Speaker 3: So let's let's assume that you're putting fifty millimeters down, Okay, 1307 01:08:54,175 --> 01:08:59,575 Speaker 3: so to be seven by five, which is seven seven 1308 01:08:59,575 --> 01:09:07,935 Speaker 3: times five equals thirty five times point oh five, which 1309 01:09:08,015 --> 01:09:10,695 Speaker 3: is one point seventy five. So if you asked him 1310 01:09:10,735 --> 01:09:14,695 Speaker 3: to deliver two cubic meters of stones, that would be 1311 01:09:14,735 --> 01:09:17,895 Speaker 3: around Now, two cubic meters is not a small pile, 1312 01:09:18,255 --> 01:09:22,375 Speaker 3: by the way, So an average eight by four trailer, 1313 01:09:23,135 --> 01:09:25,015 Speaker 3: so an eight or two point four by one point 1314 01:09:25,055 --> 01:09:28,615 Speaker 3: two trailer with a reasonable upstand on it will take 1315 01:09:28,615 --> 01:09:31,775 Speaker 3: about a cubic meter, so it would be two trailer 1316 01:09:31,775 --> 01:09:35,815 Speaker 3: loads of metal or these days they often will deliver 1317 01:09:35,895 --> 01:09:39,975 Speaker 3: those sorts of landscaping supplies in one cubic meter bags. 1318 01:09:40,375 --> 01:09:42,975 Speaker 3: So if you got two of those bags dropped off 1319 01:09:43,055 --> 01:09:45,815 Speaker 3: that would give you enough to cover that area about 1320 01:09:45,855 --> 01:09:46,895 Speaker 3: fifty millimeters deep. 1321 01:09:47,935 --> 01:09:49,855 Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, I think I'll get him to deliver it. 1322 01:09:49,895 --> 01:09:52,975 Speaker 3: And oh yeah, and then I'm thinking this would be 1323 01:09:52,975 --> 01:09:55,735 Speaker 3: a great job for a young nephew or grandson or 1324 01:09:55,775 --> 01:09:58,615 Speaker 3: something like that to barrow that around because there'll be 1325 01:09:58,615 --> 01:10:00,295 Speaker 3: a little bit of work involved in that too. 1326 01:10:00,695 --> 01:10:03,895 Speaker 17: Oh yes, yes, yes, well worth you know, for them 1327 01:10:03,935 --> 01:10:07,495 Speaker 17: to deliver. Yeah, absolutely, saying oh, you can hire a 1328 01:10:07,575 --> 01:10:11,295 Speaker 17: trailer for thirty dollars, you know, And I said, I said, 1329 01:10:11,295 --> 01:10:12,735 Speaker 17: do I have to do all the work to load 1330 01:10:12,735 --> 01:10:14,255 Speaker 17: all the stone? 1331 01:10:15,975 --> 01:10:19,655 Speaker 3: I know they'll load it, but it's the unloading which 1332 01:10:19,775 --> 01:10:24,535 Speaker 3: is the hardbit. So yeah, yeah, I'd probably look at 1333 01:10:24,535 --> 01:10:26,695 Speaker 3: getting someone to give you a hand at the other 1334 01:10:26,855 --> 01:10:30,655 Speaker 3: end with a wheelbarrow and a shovel. And also when 1335 01:10:30,695 --> 01:10:33,615 Speaker 3: you do that, when you clear that area, make sure 1336 01:10:33,655 --> 01:10:38,415 Speaker 3: you put down some weed mat underneath the stone. That awesome, perfect, Yeah, 1337 01:10:40,055 --> 01:10:42,655 Speaker 3: two cubic meters will get you there. Okay, okay, no 1338 01:10:42,735 --> 01:10:45,775 Speaker 3: trouble at all. Nice to check see. Then I wait, 1339 01:10:45,775 --> 01:10:47,735 Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. 1340 01:10:47,895 --> 01:10:49,455 Speaker 3: Ray A very good morning to you. 1341 01:10:50,655 --> 01:10:56,055 Speaker 7: Oh, good morning, we've got a downstairs tiled shower which 1342 01:10:56,095 --> 01:11:01,015 Speaker 7: we've just replaced, and the tiler and breaking out the 1343 01:11:01,095 --> 01:11:05,495 Speaker 7: existing tiles damaged the pipe that coast on the outlet 1344 01:11:06,455 --> 01:11:10,495 Speaker 7: down the drain. Yes, he got a plumber and who 1345 01:11:11,215 --> 01:11:14,335 Speaker 7: instead of putting a straight piece of pipe in which 1346 01:11:14,415 --> 01:11:17,095 Speaker 7: was normally, he put a pipe with a bend, a 1347 01:11:17,175 --> 01:11:21,415 Speaker 7: vertical bend in it. I guess it was easy to 1348 01:11:21,455 --> 01:11:24,615 Speaker 7: access the point. So we haven't been able to use 1349 01:11:24,655 --> 01:11:27,335 Speaker 7: the shower for a couple of weeks off and strive, 1350 01:11:28,095 --> 01:11:32,775 Speaker 7: And yesterday we used the shower and we found that 1351 01:11:32,815 --> 01:11:36,135 Speaker 7: the water didn't run away as quickly as it should. 1352 01:11:36,415 --> 01:11:39,695 Speaker 7: Then we understand that it's because it's got a vertical 1353 01:11:39,735 --> 01:11:43,135 Speaker 7: bend there the water. We ran it for about five 1354 01:11:43,255 --> 01:11:49,455 Speaker 7: minutes and it pulled about one centimeter on the floor 1355 01:11:49,575 --> 01:11:55,455 Speaker 7: of the shower before running away. Is that acceptable? 1356 01:11:56,215 --> 01:11:59,415 Speaker 3: It's not uncommon to have water build up. You know 1357 01:11:59,455 --> 01:12:02,415 Speaker 3: that in the end of the volume of water coming 1358 01:12:02,415 --> 01:12:05,055 Speaker 3: out of the shower heater is greater than what can 1359 01:12:05,375 --> 01:12:08,775 Speaker 3: quickly get through through the trap and out. I suppose 1360 01:12:08,815 --> 01:12:10,815 Speaker 3: the issue would be if you had a shower, Let's 1361 01:12:10,815 --> 01:12:14,535 Speaker 3: say you do a three minute shower for example, and 1362 01:12:14,775 --> 01:12:16,935 Speaker 3: at the end of that time you've found that you've 1363 01:12:16,935 --> 01:12:19,815 Speaker 3: got two or three centimeters of water, or it's getting 1364 01:12:19,855 --> 01:12:22,855 Speaker 3: to the point where it might overflow the hob, then 1365 01:12:23,015 --> 01:12:26,455 Speaker 3: that's probably an issue. If it's a small amount of water, 1366 01:12:26,615 --> 01:12:28,815 Speaker 3: it's not ideal, but it might not be the end 1367 01:12:28,815 --> 01:12:32,215 Speaker 3: of the world. I suppose the thing to do would 1368 01:12:32,255 --> 01:12:35,735 Speaker 3: be to get an assurance from the plumber that long 1369 01:12:35,855 --> 01:12:40,495 Speaker 3: term you're not going to have any issues with that. Ideally, 1370 01:12:40,575 --> 01:12:42,855 Speaker 3: you want the water to get away as quickly as possible. 1371 01:12:44,175 --> 01:12:49,015 Speaker 3: And the damage to the existing was that to the 1372 01:12:49,135 --> 01:12:52,695 Speaker 3: waste water outlet? Was that with what got broken? 1373 01:12:53,095 --> 01:12:53,215 Speaker 15: Right? 1374 01:12:54,055 --> 01:12:58,375 Speaker 7: He was in jack cammering the tiles out that jackamer 1375 01:12:58,495 --> 01:13:00,415 Speaker 7: went through the pipe. 1376 01:13:00,455 --> 01:13:05,335 Speaker 3: Right, did you I'm always a little bit cautious around 1377 01:13:05,415 --> 01:13:08,535 Speaker 3: those sorts of repair, you know, where you can't see 1378 01:13:08,535 --> 01:13:10,615 Speaker 3: it later on, and particularly is it on in a 1379 01:13:10,615 --> 01:13:14,975 Speaker 3: concrete slab or yeah, it would have been yeah, yeah, okay. 1380 01:13:14,615 --> 01:13:17,935 Speaker 7: And I saw them put concrete encasement around it. 1381 01:13:18,615 --> 01:13:21,295 Speaker 4: Yeah. Did they test the line. 1382 01:13:22,895 --> 01:13:26,615 Speaker 7: So they put water down it? They put water down it? 1383 01:13:27,015 --> 01:13:27,255 Speaker 15: Yeah. 1384 01:13:27,295 --> 01:13:31,415 Speaker 3: No, Typically for testing what you would do is you'd 1385 01:13:31,415 --> 01:13:34,415 Speaker 3: put a plug in the line, right so to block 1386 01:13:34,615 --> 01:13:37,735 Speaker 3: it off and then fill the line with water and 1387 01:13:37,815 --> 01:13:39,415 Speaker 3: make sure that it holds water. 1388 01:13:41,095 --> 01:13:45,655 Speaker 7: No, they didn't do that. 1389 01:13:45,655 --> 01:13:48,775 Speaker 3: That in my mind, that wouldn't be an unreasonable thing 1390 01:13:48,815 --> 01:13:52,655 Speaker 3: to ask the contractor to do, because chances are your 1391 01:13:52,695 --> 01:13:54,935 Speaker 3: shower is one of the lowest outlets, right, so if 1392 01:13:54,975 --> 01:13:58,935 Speaker 3: you if there's an inspection junction outside, you could take 1393 01:13:58,935 --> 01:14:02,895 Speaker 3: that inspection cap off, install a plug or a bung 1394 01:14:03,055 --> 01:14:06,535 Speaker 3: into the line, and then fill the shower until you 1395 01:14:06,575 --> 01:14:09,215 Speaker 3: see the water coming up because obviously it can't escape, 1396 01:14:09,215 --> 01:14:12,775 Speaker 3: so it will come up. And then you fill that. 1397 01:14:12,775 --> 01:14:15,575 Speaker 3: That will mean that where the junction is, that connection 1398 01:14:16,375 --> 01:14:21,335 Speaker 3: is then fully saturated. It's underwater. And so if the 1399 01:14:21,495 --> 01:14:25,335 Speaker 3: level in the shower recedes, let's say over a two 1400 01:14:25,415 --> 01:14:28,575 Speaker 3: hour period, then you know that there's a leak somewhere, 1401 01:14:29,055 --> 01:14:31,975 Speaker 3: and I'd be I would always be concerned around that junction. 1402 01:14:32,135 --> 01:14:35,375 Speaker 3: So I think doing a test is not an unreasonable 1403 01:14:35,375 --> 01:14:36,055 Speaker 3: thing to ask. 1404 01:14:37,175 --> 01:14:42,095 Speaker 7: But a general water on the bottom at full bore 1405 01:14:42,815 --> 01:14:45,415 Speaker 7: is probably not a big issue. I don't think it's 1406 01:14:45,495 --> 01:14:47,295 Speaker 7: probably not the most desirable, but. 1407 01:14:47,655 --> 01:14:50,295 Speaker 3: No, it probably isn't. And I you know, sometimes we 1408 01:14:50,415 --> 01:14:52,735 Speaker 3: just have to be a bit pragmatic around these things, right, 1409 01:14:52,815 --> 01:14:54,855 Speaker 3: So no, that's probably not an issue. 1410 01:14:54,935 --> 01:14:56,615 Speaker 11: But I thought I. 1411 01:14:56,535 --> 01:15:01,455 Speaker 7: Had was to change the shower head to a less flow. 1412 01:15:01,735 --> 01:15:03,575 Speaker 3: I mean, look for a number of reasons, that's not 1413 01:15:03,655 --> 01:15:06,695 Speaker 3: a bad idea. I mean, and to be fair, number 1414 01:15:06,735 --> 01:15:11,095 Speaker 3: of new shower heads now are actually they're they're restricted 1415 01:15:11,095 --> 01:15:14,175 Speaker 3: in some way, so they don't allow the same volume 1416 01:15:14,215 --> 01:15:19,135 Speaker 3: of water. Should still be a comfortable shower in terms 1417 01:15:19,175 --> 01:15:22,015 Speaker 3: of water efficiency, Yes, it's a good idea to have 1418 01:15:22,175 --> 01:15:23,935 Speaker 3: a efficient Have you got. 1419 01:15:23,815 --> 01:15:25,135 Speaker 7: One time for one more question? 1420 01:15:25,255 --> 01:15:25,415 Speaker 4: Yes? 1421 01:15:25,455 --> 01:15:25,615 Speaker 15: Sure. 1422 01:15:27,215 --> 01:15:31,495 Speaker 7: We've got an engineered large bench top in our kitchen. 1423 01:15:31,815 --> 01:15:37,135 Speaker 7: It's a black black colored and yesterday my wife put 1424 01:15:37,215 --> 01:15:40,495 Speaker 7: a very hot cup on it and it made a 1425 01:15:40,495 --> 01:15:44,735 Speaker 7: white mark yep. And then I got some silly me 1426 01:15:45,535 --> 01:15:52,095 Speaker 7: got some arm just cleaner, yeah yeah, and I've tried 1427 01:15:52,135 --> 01:15:55,415 Speaker 7: to remove it. First of all, I use method SPIRITSTO. 1428 01:15:56,215 --> 01:16:00,855 Speaker 7: I used some cleaner, and the cleaner took the dullness 1429 01:16:00,855 --> 01:16:07,375 Speaker 7: of the area, the black area, and there's probably a 1430 01:16:07,415 --> 01:16:11,695 Speaker 7: two hundred mil sort of skirkle where I've tried to 1431 01:16:11,815 --> 01:16:14,855 Speaker 7: take the mark away, but it's sort of flattened the color, 1432 01:16:15,495 --> 01:16:19,815 Speaker 7: and I'm wondering how I can bring that color backer. 1433 01:16:20,255 --> 01:16:22,735 Speaker 7: The very simple thing I thought about was keeping a 1434 01:16:22,815 --> 01:16:23,735 Speaker 7: tin and nugget and. 1435 01:16:24,575 --> 01:16:29,495 Speaker 4: No, no, no, right, right, right. 1436 01:16:29,895 --> 01:16:32,535 Speaker 3: The best thing to do is to there are a 1437 01:16:32,535 --> 01:16:34,855 Speaker 3: couple of companies out there that specialize in that sort 1438 01:16:34,855 --> 01:16:40,695 Speaker 3: of remediation. As it happens, not a similar incident happened 1439 01:16:41,175 --> 01:16:44,855 Speaker 3: close to home, in fact, in my home, and so 1440 01:16:44,935 --> 01:16:47,175 Speaker 3: when I reached out and went to there's a couple 1441 01:16:47,175 --> 01:16:50,415 Speaker 3: of companies around. There's people like bench top Doctor, for example, 1442 01:16:51,375 --> 01:16:55,175 Speaker 3: who will come and do repairs to benchtops. Leave it 1443 01:16:55,215 --> 01:16:58,735 Speaker 3: to the professionals, because I think anything you probably try 1444 01:16:58,775 --> 01:17:02,535 Speaker 3: and do yourself, will you know, worsen it rather than 1445 01:17:02,855 --> 01:17:07,495 Speaker 3: use that company In the end, I didn't. I've used 1446 01:17:07,535 --> 01:17:10,815 Speaker 3: them on other jobs. So there's there's people that specialize 1447 01:17:10,855 --> 01:17:14,455 Speaker 3: in stone. There's people that specialize in if you know 1448 01:17:14,495 --> 01:17:17,375 Speaker 3: who installed the stone in the first place, go back 1449 01:17:17,375 --> 01:17:21,455 Speaker 3: to them. They've probably got contacts for repairs and remediation. 1450 01:17:21,655 --> 01:17:25,535 Speaker 3: But I think something like this it is really a 1451 01:17:25,535 --> 01:17:29,295 Speaker 3: professional job. So have a scout around. I've used guys 1452 01:17:29,335 --> 01:17:32,415 Speaker 3: who do acrylics, for example, but bench stops get a 1453 01:17:32,455 --> 01:17:36,135 Speaker 3: professional and back after the break question of a building nature, 1454 01:17:36,215 --> 01:17:38,095 Speaker 3: we are more than happy to talk about that. Oh 1455 01:17:38,135 --> 01:17:40,695 Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to 1456 01:17:40,735 --> 01:17:43,015 Speaker 3: call here at News Talk s DBC you with people 1457 01:17:43,015 --> 01:17:44,095 Speaker 3: wolf Camp resident Builder. 1458 01:17:44,175 --> 01:17:44,895 Speaker 4: A little bit. 1459 01:17:44,815 --> 01:17:48,935 Speaker 3: Later on in the program, we have the delightful Recline 1460 01:17:48,975 --> 01:17:51,695 Speaker 3: Past from eight thirty this morning. So if you've got 1461 01:17:51,735 --> 01:17:55,455 Speaker 3: questions of a entomological I eat the Wonderful world of 1462 01:17:55,495 --> 01:18:00,415 Speaker 3: bugs or a gardening nature then you can call us 1463 01:18:00,575 --> 01:18:07,935 Speaker 3: around eight thirty this morning. Bit of an update from 1464 01:18:07,935 --> 01:18:11,055 Speaker 3: the Olympics as well to answer the most recent question 1465 01:18:11,375 --> 01:18:13,375 Speaker 3: text why is there no mention of Emma Tweg on 1466 01:18:13,455 --> 01:18:16,175 Speaker 3: the silver medal? Well, the good news is is that 1467 01:18:16,175 --> 01:18:21,535 Speaker 3: Francesca Rudkin has secured an interview with said Emma Twig 1468 01:18:22,015 --> 01:18:25,775 Speaker 3: and they will be talking during Francesca's show, which starts 1469 01:18:25,815 --> 01:18:28,175 Speaker 3: at nine o'clock this morning. So there you go, a 1470 01:18:28,455 --> 01:18:30,975 Speaker 3: live interview. Oh W eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty. 1471 01:18:30,975 --> 01:18:34,375 Speaker 3: If you've got a question we've been talking about. We've 1472 01:18:34,415 --> 01:18:36,095 Speaker 3: got talking a little bit about power tools at the 1473 01:18:36,135 --> 01:18:39,975 Speaker 3: beginning of the program and really around safety and what's 1474 01:18:40,135 --> 01:18:42,815 Speaker 3: sort of an adequate a minimum level of safety in 1475 01:18:42,895 --> 01:18:46,295 Speaker 3: terms of ensuring that if somebody who's unfamiliar with them, 1476 01:18:46,455 --> 01:18:51,535 Speaker 3: or if a child comes into your workspace, what precautions 1477 01:18:51,575 --> 01:18:53,815 Speaker 3: can there be. Now, I'm very much of the attitude 1478 01:18:53,815 --> 01:18:56,255 Speaker 3: that if you're the one doing the job, and this 1479 01:18:56,335 --> 01:18:59,455 Speaker 3: is whether you're a contractor, you're responsible for the environment 1480 01:18:59,535 --> 01:19:02,935 Speaker 3: and for controlling that. If you're a homeowner like most 1481 01:19:02,975 --> 01:19:05,135 Speaker 3: of us are, and we're doing work around the house, 1482 01:19:05,175 --> 01:19:08,935 Speaker 3: then it becomes our responsibility. I think the person doing 1483 01:19:08,975 --> 01:19:11,615 Speaker 3: the job to ensure that the environment is safe, and 1484 01:19:11,615 --> 01:19:14,855 Speaker 3: that includes taking sensible precautions. 1485 01:19:14,215 --> 01:19:15,735 Speaker 4: Around power tools. 1486 01:19:15,775 --> 01:19:18,495 Speaker 3: If you and all of us, most of us would 1487 01:19:18,535 --> 01:19:21,015 Speaker 3: have done this over the years. You're doing a job 1488 01:19:21,055 --> 01:19:23,855 Speaker 3: at home and there might be small children floating around, 1489 01:19:25,015 --> 01:19:27,855 Speaker 3: There might be people who are unfamiliar with power tools around, 1490 01:19:28,215 --> 01:19:31,295 Speaker 3: so what are sensible precautions to ensure that they don't 1491 01:19:31,455 --> 01:19:35,935 Speaker 3: either out of curiosity or lack of knowledge, inadvertently turn 1492 01:19:35,975 --> 01:19:40,015 Speaker 3: on a power tool, cut themselves, hurt themselves in any way. 1493 01:19:40,855 --> 01:19:44,255 Speaker 3: But ultimately, I think it always comes down to you 1494 01:19:44,535 --> 01:19:47,615 Speaker 3: being in control of the environment, you setting the standards 1495 01:19:47,655 --> 01:19:50,215 Speaker 3: for that. So we've had a whole number of texts 1496 01:19:50,255 --> 01:19:55,095 Speaker 3: and calls around safety switches and one person who had 1497 01:19:55,215 --> 01:19:58,415 Speaker 3: like a complete power override in their workshop so that 1498 01:19:58,455 --> 01:20:02,255 Speaker 3: they could simply flip one switch and kill all of 1499 01:20:02,295 --> 01:20:06,095 Speaker 3: the power or deenergize. This is a new word that 1500 01:20:06,095 --> 01:20:07,815 Speaker 3: I learn this week when I was talking to some 1501 01:20:07,895 --> 01:20:13,775 Speaker 3: guys who were doing taking overhead power lines and connected 1502 01:20:13,935 --> 01:20:19,055 Speaker 3: or disconnecting those and doing new underground power in a street, 1503 01:20:19,935 --> 01:20:21,535 Speaker 3: and I had to give them access to the house 1504 01:20:21,575 --> 01:20:24,895 Speaker 3: for the electrical inspector to come through and do a 1505 01:20:24,895 --> 01:20:26,855 Speaker 3: certificate at the end to make sure that the work 1506 01:20:27,215 --> 01:20:32,775 Speaker 3: done by the contractor was safe and compliant. And so, yeah, 1507 01:20:32,975 --> 01:20:35,775 Speaker 3: the guy was talking normally. I don't know, it's just 1508 01:20:35,935 --> 01:20:38,535 Speaker 3: my old language. I would say you kill the power, 1509 01:20:38,695 --> 01:20:42,095 Speaker 3: right that means you've turned it off, But no, you 1510 01:20:42,255 --> 01:20:47,735 Speaker 3: de energize the power. These days, I guess for reasonable reasons. 1511 01:20:48,095 --> 01:20:50,575 Speaker 3: Talking about killing things is not that nice. But anyway, 1512 01:20:50,895 --> 01:20:53,895 Speaker 3: that was a new word that I let And the 1513 01:20:53,935 --> 01:20:56,295 Speaker 3: other day actually on this show, we were talking about 1514 01:20:56,375 --> 01:20:59,615 Speaker 3: electrical safety and electrical safety certificates and what sort of 1515 01:20:59,655 --> 01:21:04,375 Speaker 3: documentation is required by people undertaking this work in terms 1516 01:21:04,415 --> 01:21:07,135 Speaker 3: of at the end of the work of documents will 1517 01:21:07,175 --> 01:21:11,095 Speaker 3: you should you receive from the contractor. So the team 1518 01:21:11,135 --> 01:21:13,255 Speaker 3: that was working in the street and the house that 1519 01:21:13,295 --> 01:21:16,055 Speaker 3: I had to give them access to, they had my 1520 01:21:16,175 --> 01:21:18,975 Speaker 3: email and so at the end of the job they 1521 01:21:19,015 --> 01:21:22,015 Speaker 3: completed the work. On the Tuesday, they had the electrical 1522 01:21:22,015 --> 01:21:25,415 Speaker 3: safety inspector come and inspect the work done by the 1523 01:21:25,455 --> 01:21:28,815 Speaker 3: main contractor, and then from both of those people I 1524 01:21:28,895 --> 01:21:33,215 Speaker 3: received documentation the next day, one which was sort of 1525 01:21:33,255 --> 01:21:36,295 Speaker 3: a record of inspection for high risk work i eat. 1526 01:21:36,455 --> 01:21:37,375 Speaker 4: Connecting a new. 1527 01:21:37,335 --> 01:21:41,255 Speaker 3: Mains to the house, and another one was a certificate 1528 01:21:41,335 --> 01:21:44,695 Speaker 3: of compliance from the electricians that did the work did 1529 01:21:44,695 --> 01:21:47,815 Speaker 3: the actual installation of the connection of the new power 1530 01:21:48,215 --> 01:21:51,495 Speaker 3: to the meet aboard. Both of them sent me documentations, 1531 01:21:51,535 --> 01:21:54,295 Speaker 3: got their registration number on It describes the type of 1532 01:21:54,335 --> 01:21:58,055 Speaker 3: work done. One signed off by the electrical inspector and 1533 01:21:58,175 --> 01:22:01,615 Speaker 3: one signed off by the electricians that actually did the work. 1534 01:22:01,655 --> 01:22:04,735 Speaker 3: So that's the sort of basic documentation that you should 1535 01:22:04,775 --> 01:22:08,895 Speaker 3: get after electrical work is undertaken. This instance, it's high 1536 01:22:09,015 --> 01:22:12,135 Speaker 3: risk because it involves the mains, but regardless of what 1537 01:22:12,175 --> 01:22:15,095 Speaker 3: you do, you should get a COOC from your electrician 1538 01:22:15,175 --> 01:22:18,135 Speaker 3: for any electrical work done on your property. Oh eight, 1539 01:22:18,135 --> 01:22:20,055 Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. 1540 01:22:20,055 --> 01:22:22,615 Speaker 3: If you've got a question of a building nature, you 1541 01:22:22,615 --> 01:22:25,255 Speaker 3: can give us a call, a quick one on a 1542 01:22:25,415 --> 01:22:28,935 Speaker 3: text on the showers. We were talking about that with 1543 01:22:29,135 --> 01:22:33,295 Speaker 3: ray just before the news. So a shower has been refurbished. 1544 01:22:33,575 --> 01:22:38,015 Speaker 3: During the process, the tiler seemingly, while they were chipping 1545 01:22:38,055 --> 01:22:42,735 Speaker 3: away at the tiles, ended up breaking the wastewater pipe, 1546 01:22:43,175 --> 01:22:45,695 Speaker 3: and so the plumber had to come and install, make 1547 01:22:45,775 --> 01:22:49,615 Speaker 3: a new connection to the broken wastewater pipe, and then 1548 01:22:49,935 --> 01:22:53,935 Speaker 3: do the trap install. The waste tiler's finished the job, 1549 01:22:54,455 --> 01:22:56,895 Speaker 3: water doesn't seem to flow as much as it used to, 1550 01:22:57,015 --> 01:22:59,255 Speaker 3: and I'm saying, well, I think it wouldn't be unreasonable 1551 01:22:59,295 --> 01:23:01,895 Speaker 3: to ask them to test that line to make sure 1552 01:23:01,935 --> 01:23:04,895 Speaker 3: that they also have sealed that junction. So again, if 1553 01:23:04,935 --> 01:23:09,055 Speaker 3: you're doing a new build, you're doing renovations, Council, as 1554 01:23:09,135 --> 01:23:13,495 Speaker 3: part of their inspection for the waste water lines, will 1555 01:23:13,535 --> 01:23:16,735 Speaker 3: ask the plumbers to install a bun or a plug 1556 01:23:16,815 --> 01:23:19,455 Speaker 3: into the line and then you fill that line to 1557 01:23:19,495 --> 01:23:22,455 Speaker 3: make sure that it's holding water. And it's quite a 1558 01:23:22,455 --> 01:23:25,055 Speaker 3: simple thing. You fill it up to the you can 1559 01:23:25,095 --> 01:23:27,055 Speaker 3: see where the water is, you can mark that on 1560 01:23:27,095 --> 01:23:29,215 Speaker 3: the pipe, and then if over a period of an 1561 01:23:29,215 --> 01:23:31,135 Speaker 3: hour or two that drops, well, you know you've got 1562 01:23:31,135 --> 01:23:34,215 Speaker 3: a leak somewhere. Really simple, so fix it before you 1563 01:23:34,295 --> 01:23:36,415 Speaker 3: close it in. I'm just wondering whether they haven't done 1564 01:23:36,455 --> 01:23:39,215 Speaker 3: that on this particular job. Oh eight hundred and eighty 1565 01:23:39,295 --> 01:23:41,535 Speaker 3: ten eighty lines are open. Oh and a lot of 1566 01:23:41,575 --> 01:23:43,695 Speaker 3: talk about power tools and safety. So more than happy 1567 01:23:43,775 --> 01:23:48,175 Speaker 3: to talk tools and tool selection and safety. That there 1568 01:23:48,255 --> 01:23:52,935 Speaker 3: is that trepidition at trepidation rather when if it's unfamiliar 1569 01:23:53,015 --> 01:23:55,495 Speaker 3: to you, but you want to start out down that 1570 01:23:55,535 --> 01:24:00,455 Speaker 3: sort of I'm going to own some power tool journeys journey, 1571 01:24:00,495 --> 01:24:02,375 Speaker 3: then how do you start? You know that if you 1572 01:24:02,575 --> 01:24:05,975 Speaker 3: buy a table saw, you've never used one in your life. 1573 01:24:06,415 --> 01:24:08,735 Speaker 3: You decide that you've got a project that you want 1574 01:24:08,815 --> 01:24:12,775 Speaker 3: to use one for and you're unfamiliar with them, or 1575 01:24:12,855 --> 01:24:14,855 Speaker 3: perhaps you've never used one at all, and so you 1576 01:24:14,895 --> 01:24:16,815 Speaker 3: bring it home, you unwrap it, you put it together. 1577 01:24:17,535 --> 01:24:20,055 Speaker 3: It's got to be just slightly terrifying the first time 1578 01:24:20,095 --> 01:24:22,215 Speaker 3: you turn it on. So where do you go to learn? 1579 01:24:22,575 --> 01:24:24,655 Speaker 3: I would suggest you should spend some time with someone 1580 01:24:24,695 --> 01:24:29,815 Speaker 3: who's competent with them and understand the processes before you 1581 01:24:29,895 --> 01:24:31,855 Speaker 3: had to go yourself. Oh Wa eight one hundred and 1582 01:24:31,895 --> 01:24:33,615 Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty. Will take a short break, we'll be 1583 01:24:33,655 --> 01:24:36,175 Speaker 3: back in just a moment. Your news talk said be. 1584 01:24:40,615 --> 01:24:41,175 Speaker 4: Fascinating. 1585 01:24:41,215 --> 01:24:45,455 Speaker 3: Texts from Michael just very briefly, morning, Pete. I'm an 1586 01:24:45,455 --> 01:24:47,815 Speaker 3: electrical engineer and love doing work at home. I've made 1587 01:24:47,855 --> 01:24:52,535 Speaker 3: a foot operated powerboard with COC and AC to run 1588 01:24:52,575 --> 01:24:55,375 Speaker 3: my table saw another electrical power tool, so that i 1589 01:24:55,455 --> 01:24:58,095 Speaker 3: always have both hands on the workpiece or the tool 1590 01:24:58,135 --> 01:25:00,575 Speaker 3: without having to remove a hand to switch the tool off. 1591 01:25:00,975 --> 01:25:07,135 Speaker 3: Especially the table chairs from Michael. Interesting approach. I'm fascinated 1592 01:25:07,175 --> 01:25:07,455 Speaker 3: by that. 1593 01:25:07,575 --> 01:25:07,935 Speaker 4: I'm not. 1594 01:25:09,575 --> 01:25:10,895 Speaker 3: I'm just trying to think of all of the time 1595 01:25:10,935 --> 01:25:12,975 Speaker 3: that I used the table saw. I would I would 1596 01:25:13,015 --> 01:25:15,775 Speaker 3: finish using you know, I've cut something, or I've done 1597 01:25:15,775 --> 01:25:18,775 Speaker 3: a rebayto or something like that, and I've finished, I've 1598 01:25:18,815 --> 01:25:23,975 Speaker 3: removed the timber from the saw, put that aside, and 1599 01:25:24,015 --> 01:25:26,655 Speaker 3: then I'll reach down and turn the saw off. That's 1600 01:25:27,815 --> 01:25:28,375 Speaker 3: that's enough. 1601 01:25:28,575 --> 01:25:29,175 Speaker 4: I don't. 1602 01:25:30,655 --> 01:25:32,415 Speaker 3: Like, I don't need to keep my I don't want 1603 01:25:32,455 --> 01:25:34,615 Speaker 3: to keep my hands by the blade to be fair. 1604 01:25:35,335 --> 01:25:38,655 Speaker 3: And then have and then think foot control. Look, I 1605 01:25:38,655 --> 01:25:40,615 Speaker 3: can see the advantage of it, and I've certainly worked 1606 01:25:40,655 --> 01:25:43,375 Speaker 3: in factories where we've had foot control, for example, for 1607 01:25:43,935 --> 01:25:46,655 Speaker 3: things like guillotines and that sort of thing. They are 1608 01:25:46,935 --> 01:25:50,975 Speaker 3: really nifty, interesting, fascinating. Thank you Michael for that. Ernest 1609 01:25:51,015 --> 01:25:51,895 Speaker 3: Good morning to you, sir. 1610 01:25:53,055 --> 01:25:58,335 Speaker 12: Good morning, sir morning. I'm working on a nineteen sixties 1611 01:25:58,415 --> 01:26:03,215 Speaker 12: half at the moment from my home, and I'm redoing 1612 01:26:03,295 --> 01:26:06,855 Speaker 12: the kitchen, and last night I started taking the sort 1613 01:26:06,895 --> 01:26:11,375 Speaker 12: of lino plastic flooring, which underneath that was a dark 1614 01:26:11,495 --> 01:26:17,655 Speaker 12: brown board which I know is masonite, and then underneath 1615 01:26:17,655 --> 01:26:22,575 Speaker 12: that is the floor in absolutely beautiful conditions. However, the 1616 01:26:22,575 --> 01:26:26,415 Speaker 12: masonite has been staple down and you can break the 1617 01:26:26,455 --> 01:26:29,815 Speaker 12: masonright off and you're left with the staples. Most of 1618 01:26:29,895 --> 01:26:34,455 Speaker 12: the staples, like four four out of five will come out, 1619 01:26:34,575 --> 01:26:38,335 Speaker 12: and I found using a pair of vice grips and 1620 01:26:39,015 --> 01:26:41,655 Speaker 12: a plank underneath them and sort of pulled them out 1621 01:26:41,695 --> 01:26:44,415 Speaker 12: that way. But some of them don't come out. I'm 1622 01:26:44,455 --> 01:26:47,055 Speaker 12: just wondering if there is a neck to it. Like 1623 01:26:47,655 --> 01:26:50,775 Speaker 12: I tried tapping the staple before putting it out, but 1624 01:26:51,055 --> 01:26:55,855 Speaker 12: I felt bad about doing that. So some of the 1625 01:26:55,855 --> 01:26:59,095 Speaker 12: staples bake off, so you've got two pins sticking up 1626 01:27:00,335 --> 01:27:02,175 Speaker 12: the any way of coping with it better? 1627 01:27:03,695 --> 01:27:07,495 Speaker 3: And part of me is just smiling from year to 1628 01:27:07,615 --> 01:27:10,735 Speaker 3: ear because I did a job exactly like that, but 1629 01:27:10,935 --> 01:27:12,895 Speaker 3: just between you and I, I did it when I 1630 01:27:12,935 --> 01:27:15,735 Speaker 3: was a much younger man, And to be fair, I'd 1631 01:27:15,775 --> 01:27:18,895 Speaker 3: had a big night out the night before, and my 1632 01:27:19,095 --> 01:27:22,375 Speaker 3: job the next day was to pull staples out of 1633 01:27:22,415 --> 01:27:25,135 Speaker 3: the floor. So spending a day on your hands and 1634 01:27:25,215 --> 01:27:28,535 Speaker 3: knees pulling staples out of the floor with just the 1635 01:27:28,575 --> 01:27:32,935 Speaker 3: most massive hangover was not pleasant, So I understand how 1636 01:27:33,335 --> 01:27:36,335 Speaker 3: difficult that job is. Look to be fair, if you're 1637 01:27:36,335 --> 01:27:39,135 Speaker 3: achieving four out of five, you're doing better than I did. 1638 01:27:40,135 --> 01:27:42,535 Speaker 3: My performance might have been slightly impaired at the time, 1639 01:27:42,575 --> 01:27:47,455 Speaker 3: but in the end, I think what I found and 1640 01:27:47,975 --> 01:27:50,535 Speaker 3: over the years that if you can get them out, 1641 01:27:50,575 --> 01:27:54,335 Speaker 3: that's great. Tapping them to sort of release the tension 1642 01:27:54,455 --> 01:27:56,895 Speaker 3: or the grip that they have, because the staples rust 1643 01:27:56,935 --> 01:27:59,055 Speaker 3: a little bit over time, right, so if you can 1644 01:27:59,135 --> 01:28:02,495 Speaker 3: loosen that bond by giving them a small tap. The 1645 01:28:02,535 --> 01:28:05,735 Speaker 3: hard thing is, because they're not particularly strong, you tend 1646 01:28:05,735 --> 01:28:08,015 Speaker 3: to flatten a head, and in fact, if you hit 1647 01:28:08,095 --> 01:28:10,855 Speaker 3: them too hard, you'll create a crease in the in 1648 01:28:10,895 --> 01:28:13,695 Speaker 3: the wire and that'll just make it more fragile. So 1649 01:28:14,135 --> 01:28:19,335 Speaker 3: it's a small tap. If you really wanted to, you 1650 01:28:19,375 --> 01:28:22,255 Speaker 3: could try soaking the floor to make the timber wet, 1651 01:28:22,295 --> 01:28:25,015 Speaker 3: but I don't know that it'll have a significant impact. 1652 01:28:25,575 --> 01:28:27,375 Speaker 3: What I found is that I got most of the 1653 01:28:27,375 --> 01:28:30,615 Speaker 3: staples out like you have, and then the ones that 1654 01:28:30,855 --> 01:28:34,695 Speaker 3: broke off and that I couldn't get any purchase on anymore, 1655 01:28:35,295 --> 01:28:38,535 Speaker 3: I would simply drive them down with a nail punch. 1656 01:28:38,975 --> 01:28:41,215 Speaker 3: And in fact, the ones that I missed once the 1657 01:28:41,335 --> 01:28:45,055 Speaker 3: sander went over them. It's you're talking about a millimeter, right, 1658 01:28:45,575 --> 01:28:48,135 Speaker 3: You kind of hardly even notice that if that's your 1659 01:28:48,135 --> 01:28:49,615 Speaker 3: intention is to stand the floor. 1660 01:28:51,135 --> 01:28:54,535 Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, it is my intention. And I wondered about 1661 01:28:54,575 --> 01:28:57,735 Speaker 12: that that I had visions of it ripping up the 1662 01:28:59,415 --> 01:29:00,095 Speaker 12: sand paper. 1663 01:29:00,495 --> 01:29:04,055 Speaker 3: No, don't worry about that. And the slightest can I 1664 01:29:04,375 --> 01:29:07,095 Speaker 3: How much of the removal of your ex lino have 1665 01:29:07,255 --> 01:29:09,135 Speaker 3: you done? 1666 01:29:09,615 --> 01:29:12,455 Speaker 12: I've done about a square meter or so. 1667 01:29:13,255 --> 01:29:20,095 Speaker 3: Okay, there, have you done an asbestos test? 1668 01:29:21,975 --> 01:29:25,055 Speaker 4: The what s an asbestos? 1669 01:29:25,175 --> 01:29:25,335 Speaker 7: No? 1670 01:29:25,335 --> 01:29:29,935 Speaker 12: No, this is a wood product. Yeah, and I think 1671 01:29:29,935 --> 01:29:31,295 Speaker 12: it's called Mason Night. 1672 01:29:32,335 --> 01:29:36,095 Speaker 3: And look just it would be remissive me if I 1673 01:29:36,095 --> 01:29:40,015 Speaker 3: didn't raise this right because I'm I'm aware that in 1674 01:29:40,575 --> 01:29:43,935 Speaker 3: certain types of lino underlays and certain types of those 1675 01:29:44,095 --> 01:29:48,135 Speaker 3: that may snite board, there may well be asbestos containing 1676 01:29:48,175 --> 01:29:51,535 Speaker 3: material or ACM. And so before you go and do 1677 01:29:51,655 --> 01:29:55,255 Speaker 3: lots more work. Certainly, I hope that you're wearing a 1678 01:29:55,295 --> 01:29:59,055 Speaker 3: mask and those sorts of things, but I would suggest 1679 01:29:59,295 --> 01:30:01,455 Speaker 3: that you take a sample of it, send it off 1680 01:30:01,455 --> 01:30:03,855 Speaker 3: to an industrial laboratory. And there are lots of them 1681 01:30:03,855 --> 01:30:06,495 Speaker 3: that are or there are more of them available. Our 1682 01:30:06,935 --> 01:30:11,415 Speaker 3: testing is not uncommon, and just have for your own 1683 01:30:11,455 --> 01:30:15,175 Speaker 3: peace of mind, because even if during the removal, you know, 1684 01:30:15,535 --> 01:30:17,815 Speaker 3: if you're creating dust that's going to stay in the house, 1685 01:30:18,295 --> 01:30:22,255 Speaker 3: then you've effectively spread those asbestos fibers throughout the house. 1686 01:30:22,295 --> 01:30:28,775 Speaker 3: So have it tested before you do too much work 1687 01:30:28,855 --> 01:30:31,335 Speaker 3: would be my recommendation. What you do is up to you, 1688 01:30:31,375 --> 01:30:34,295 Speaker 3: but that I feel that I need to tell you 1689 01:30:34,335 --> 01:30:37,535 Speaker 3: that thank you for that. Yeah, no trouble at all. 1690 01:30:37,895 --> 01:30:39,975 Speaker 3: But yeah, and once it's done, I think if you've 1691 01:30:39,975 --> 01:30:42,495 Speaker 3: got most of them out and the last ones you sand, 1692 01:30:42,575 --> 01:30:44,215 Speaker 3: and if you don't like the look of them when 1693 01:30:44,255 --> 01:30:46,735 Speaker 3: you've sanded them, you could punch them and fill that 1694 01:30:47,055 --> 01:30:48,375 Speaker 3: and that'll be fine. 1695 01:30:49,495 --> 01:30:53,255 Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm not that fussy about it. And you know 1696 01:30:53,295 --> 01:31:01,135 Speaker 12: they're like centers about ten so the hundreds. 1697 01:30:59,495 --> 01:31:05,095 Speaker 3: I am painfully aware of the work that you are doing. 1698 01:31:05,335 --> 01:31:07,575 Speaker 3: Someone has text through and said use pencers, but I 1699 01:31:07,615 --> 01:31:10,215 Speaker 3: actually think that by using the vice script you might 1700 01:31:10,255 --> 01:31:13,775 Speaker 3: be onto a winner there because the pencers, because they're 1701 01:31:13,775 --> 01:31:18,575 Speaker 3: designed to cut through material, will often end up there's 1702 01:31:18,575 --> 01:31:21,495 Speaker 3: a really fine juggling act with a set of pencers 1703 01:31:21,535 --> 01:31:25,455 Speaker 3: to get enough pressure to get purchase on the material 1704 01:31:25,535 --> 01:31:27,375 Speaker 3: so that you can leave it out. But if you 1705 01:31:27,495 --> 01:31:29,895 Speaker 3: press too hard on the pencer, you'll just cut through 1706 01:31:30,415 --> 01:31:32,655 Speaker 3: the staples. So I think using. 1707 01:31:33,695 --> 01:31:38,935 Speaker 12: Idea, yeah, I went to the princers initially, that's exactly 1708 01:31:38,975 --> 01:31:42,615 Speaker 12: what happened. Is it actually cut off a lot of 1709 01:31:42,655 --> 01:31:48,575 Speaker 12: the staples anyway, Okay, thank you, I'll try doing the 1710 01:31:48,615 --> 01:31:49,015 Speaker 12: tap bit. 1711 01:31:49,975 --> 01:31:50,615 Speaker 7: I think you're. 1712 01:31:53,615 --> 01:31:56,815 Speaker 3: Thanks all right, much appreciate it. You take care, thank 1713 01:31:56,855 --> 01:32:00,735 Speaker 3: you very much. All the best, Bob. Then that is 1714 01:32:00,855 --> 01:32:05,175 Speaker 3: one completely unpleasant job, as if you you know often 1715 01:32:08,015 --> 01:32:10,895 Speaker 3: so look at this text right there you go again 1716 01:32:10,935 --> 01:32:14,695 Speaker 3: with your over the top caution, so annoying. Have you 1717 01:32:14,735 --> 01:32:17,055 Speaker 3: ever been with someone who's died as a result of 1718 01:32:17,215 --> 01:32:23,935 Speaker 3: exposure to asbestos? You probably haven't, right, So the risk 1719 01:32:23,975 --> 01:32:27,535 Speaker 3: of exposure is real. So it's a sensible precaution in 1720 01:32:27,615 --> 01:32:31,055 Speaker 3: my mind. If you're going to spend hours getting down 1721 01:32:31,255 --> 01:32:33,335 Speaker 3: close to a material that you're going to break up 1722 01:32:33,375 --> 01:32:37,775 Speaker 3: and the fibers become friable as an airborne then I 1723 01:32:37,775 --> 01:32:42,455 Speaker 3: think it's a sensible precaution to test for asbestos. And 1724 01:32:42,535 --> 01:32:46,895 Speaker 3: I don't believe that that's over the top so annoying. Yeah, right, 1725 01:32:47,895 --> 01:32:50,055 Speaker 3: okay O eight hundred eighty ten eighty. We're going to 1726 01:32:50,335 --> 01:32:52,135 Speaker 3: track down Rudd, which is a bit of a challenge 1727 01:32:52,215 --> 01:32:54,335 Speaker 3: right now. So Rudd, time to go to the studio 1728 01:32:54,375 --> 01:32:57,535 Speaker 3: Sunshine I eight hundred eighty ten eighty. If you've got 1729 01:32:57,575 --> 01:33:01,015 Speaker 3: a question for Ridd, you can text through your questions 1730 01:33:01,095 --> 01:33:04,175 Speaker 3: through as well. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the 1731 01:33:04,255 --> 01:33:07,695 Speaker 3: number to call. Just on that staple room. There are 1732 01:33:07,775 --> 01:33:10,495 Speaker 3: staple removal tools like a little wedge that you can 1733 01:33:10,535 --> 01:33:15,175 Speaker 3: get underneath the harp of the staple or the staples 1734 01:33:15,215 --> 01:33:16,855 Speaker 3: go up, across and back down, so if you can 1735 01:33:16,855 --> 01:33:19,815 Speaker 3: get under there, sometimes you can leave them up if 1736 01:33:19,815 --> 01:33:22,135 Speaker 3: you can get under there. Often with that type of work, 1737 01:33:22,175 --> 01:33:25,015 Speaker 3: where the staple is held down the board, there's actually 1738 01:33:25,015 --> 01:33:28,095 Speaker 3: the remnants of the board trapped underneath the staple, hence 1739 01:33:28,215 --> 01:33:31,415 Speaker 3: using pliers or pincers to get to the top of 1740 01:33:31,455 --> 01:33:35,975 Speaker 3: the staple. I am so intimately involved with the removal 1741 01:33:35,975 --> 01:33:37,935 Speaker 3: of staples that it disturbs me that I know this 1742 01:33:38,095 --> 01:33:38,975 Speaker 3: much about doing them. 1743 01:33:39,055 --> 01:33:40,055 Speaker 4: I eight hundred eighty. 1744 01:33:40,175 --> 01:33:42,335 Speaker 3: Here we go remove the staples and breads by rocking 1745 01:33:42,375 --> 01:33:44,775 Speaker 3: back and forth, and then they break off below the surface. 1746 01:33:45,255 --> 01:33:49,895 Speaker 3: Interesting technique, not bad. People have obviously shared my pain 1747 01:33:50,015 --> 01:33:53,415 Speaker 3: with doing this particular job. I eight hundred eighty ten eighty. 1748 01:33:53,455 --> 01:33:55,615 Speaker 3: We'll take short break. We've got rid coming up in 1749 01:33:55,735 --> 01:34:08,015 Speaker 3: just a moment, just before we jump into the garden 1750 01:34:08,055 --> 01:34:12,095 Speaker 3: with Red climb Past who's on standby. I mentioned earlier 1751 01:34:12,215 --> 01:34:16,055 Speaker 3: that during the course of the week several discussions, been 1752 01:34:16,055 --> 01:34:18,375 Speaker 3: to a few events and that sort of thing, and 1753 01:34:19,015 --> 01:34:21,735 Speaker 3: ended up having a really good session with a young 1754 01:34:22,295 --> 01:34:25,575 Speaker 3: engineer Storm who has done a lot of research on 1755 01:34:25,775 --> 01:34:30,055 Speaker 3: ventilation in particular. So it's my intention sometime in the 1756 01:34:30,055 --> 01:34:32,815 Speaker 3: next couple of weeks to have her join me on 1757 01:34:32,855 --> 01:34:36,335 Speaker 3: the program to talk about ventilation again. It's one of 1758 01:34:36,375 --> 01:34:38,935 Speaker 3: those hot button topics at the moment because people are 1759 01:34:38,935 --> 01:34:42,655 Speaker 3: talking about H one in terms of the energy efficiency 1760 01:34:42,695 --> 01:34:45,615 Speaker 3: and the insulation requirements, and then people are going, well, 1761 01:34:45,655 --> 01:34:48,095 Speaker 3: because we're putting too much insulation at the houses, that's 1762 01:34:48,135 --> 01:34:51,615 Speaker 3: why they're overheating, which is not true, by the way, 1763 01:34:52,495 --> 01:34:56,855 Speaker 3: and we're starting to get understandably, but more focused on 1764 01:34:57,215 --> 01:35:01,015 Speaker 3: ventilation and air quality and ventilation requirements and so on. 1765 01:35:01,375 --> 01:35:04,695 Speaker 3: So it was delightful actually to sit with her and 1766 01:35:04,695 --> 01:35:08,655 Speaker 3: talk for a couple of hours about insulation, insulation, insulation 1767 01:35:08,855 --> 01:35:14,095 Speaker 3: and ventilation, particularly ventilation and ventilation standards and what systems work, 1768 01:35:14,135 --> 01:35:17,175 Speaker 3: and negative pressure and positive pressure and so on and 1769 01:35:17,175 --> 01:35:20,695 Speaker 3: so forth. So we'll take a deep dive into ventilation 1770 01:35:21,655 --> 01:35:26,495 Speaker 3: in the coming weeks. Righty, oh, we have Rid on standby. 1771 01:35:27,415 --> 01:35:30,655 Speaker 3: Rid's okay, we've got root, we don't have rit, we 1772 01:35:30,695 --> 01:35:33,495 Speaker 3: don't have rot right now, we might swap over and 1773 01:35:33,775 --> 01:35:36,015 Speaker 3: do that a slightly different way. If you've got any 1774 01:35:36,135 --> 01:35:38,975 Speaker 3: questions for it, then the lines are open and the 1775 01:35:39,055 --> 01:35:41,775 Speaker 3: number to call is eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. 1776 01:35:41,815 --> 01:35:43,895 Speaker 3: You can text through as well. A couple of people 1777 01:35:43,935 --> 01:35:48,695 Speaker 3: have already text through about Slimy Nostoc. Don't know anything 1778 01:35:48,695 --> 01:35:52,295 Speaker 3: about that. That's why Rid's on the show spraying roses 1779 01:35:52,375 --> 01:35:55,055 Speaker 3: with once they're pruned. We'll talk to Rid about that 1780 01:35:55,175 --> 01:35:58,575 Speaker 3: as well. Just on the asbestos, which was the last 1781 01:35:58,735 --> 01:36:02,695 Speaker 3: thing that we talked about on the program, let me 1782 01:36:02,815 --> 01:36:04,135 Speaker 3: just sort this out there. 1783 01:36:04,135 --> 01:36:04,575 Speaker 4: We go. 1784 01:36:06,495 --> 01:36:12,695 Speaker 3: On the we're talking about asbestos pete where we see 1785 01:36:12,735 --> 01:36:16,295 Speaker 3: floor sanders and we check every single floor that we uplift, 1786 01:36:16,375 --> 01:36:19,695 Speaker 3: and about five percent contain asbestos. While the thing would 1787 01:36:19,695 --> 01:36:21,615 Speaker 3: be if you want to be in that five percent 1788 01:36:21,695 --> 01:36:24,975 Speaker 3: and potentially expose yourselves to something that is going to 1789 01:36:25,015 --> 01:36:29,815 Speaker 3: have in detrimental impact on your health in the future. Right, 1790 01:36:29,815 --> 01:36:32,295 Speaker 3: we're going to get rid sort it out. If you 1791 01:36:32,335 --> 01:36:34,655 Speaker 3: would like to call and talk with Ridd, the lines 1792 01:36:34,695 --> 01:36:37,655 Speaker 3: are open. Might take the break now and then we'll 1793 01:36:37,655 --> 01:36:39,495 Speaker 3: come back, get Rid up and then we're into it. 1794 01:36:39,575 --> 01:36:40,575 Speaker 4: Here at Newstalk SEDB. 1795 01:36:52,855 --> 01:36:55,815 Speaker 1: For more from the Resident Builder with Peter Wolfcamp. 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