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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at be.

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Speaker 2: So you know how Google has absolutely dominated search engines

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Speaker 2: for the best part of twenty years. There's this new

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Speaker 2: company called Perplexity that knows it's a bit of an underdog,

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Speaker 2: but it's using AI to give users a bit of

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Speaker 2: a different experience and it's hoping to take down Google's

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Speaker 2: dominance on the web. Our Textbert Paul Stenhouse is here

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Speaker 2: with the details this morning. Hey Paul, Hey, good morning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because Google's one. Because if you want to know anything,

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Speaker 3: and you want to do anything on the Internet, what

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Speaker 3: do you do. You either open up your Chrome browser,

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Speaker 3: which Google owns, which has something like ninety percent of

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Speaker 3: the market share, which is just.

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Speaker 1: As phenomenal madness, I mean it is.

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Speaker 3: And if you're using your Safari or whatever else you're using,

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Speaker 3: you probably go to Google dot com because it's always

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Speaker 3: been the best. It's just where everybody starts. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: and that's what Perposity wants to try to change, right.

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Speaker 3: They came into this AI game a little bit differently.

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Speaker 3: They really tried to go first into this browser kind

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Speaker 3: of this browser first mentality of well, if we can

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Speaker 3: be the starting point. Then that's where we're going to win.

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Speaker 3: And I will say, you know, the open AIS, the

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Speaker 3: company behind chat GPT, they've started to get into their

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Speaker 3: browser sort of game now as well because they're seeing

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Speaker 3: the same thing and they want to be that utility

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Speaker 3: you go to. But Perplexity has really done it really quickly.

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Speaker 3: And they've just launched their Android app, so it's sort

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Speaker 3: of a browser for Android, which is available and then

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Speaker 3: days away will be the iOS app already available on Mac,

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Speaker 3: already available on Windows. So they've really got all of

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Speaker 3: the kind of big bases covered, right, and they've done

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Speaker 3: it really quite quickly. They're a little bit different from

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Speaker 3: the other ais as well, and that they were one

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Speaker 3: of the early ones to really use real time searching

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Speaker 3: in their AI results. So just to give a little

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Speaker 3: bit of context for that, right, you know, the AI

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Speaker 3: companies go out and they teach it things and they've

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Speaker 3: usually got what they call a knowledge cutoff, and so

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Speaker 3: what Perplexity did was they combined the knowledge base with

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Speaker 3: real time search results and then brought it all together.

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Speaker 3: And they've been a little bit controversial because they're a

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Speaker 3: little bit maybe let's say Lucy goosey with some of

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Speaker 3: the rules around copyright and respecting you know, websites terms

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Speaker 3: of service and things like that. But they have got

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Speaker 3: a pretty good funny that they've got a pretty good

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Speaker 3: service when it comes to things that are happening with

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Speaker 3: news and sports and really timely information. So maybe if

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Speaker 3: you've got an Andrew phone, check it out.

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Speaker 2: Okay, do you know what. I've just gone a quick

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Speaker 2: crack while you've been talking to us. So I've gone

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Speaker 2: to Google and I said, who is Paul Stenhouse? And

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Speaker 2: Google said, it's not going to know. A member of

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Speaker 2: the Missionaries of the Sacred Heart. He was a scholar, linguist,

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Speaker 2: expert on Samaritan studies, writer, story in an editor of

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Speaker 2: the longest lasting journal in Australia's history. Which I had

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Speaker 2: no idea about Paul, but then I went to get

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Speaker 2: some of his emails sometimes exactly that's.

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Speaker 3: Very interesting, Priestley.

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Speaker 2: Well, I went to Perplexity and asked the same thing,

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Speaker 2: and it gave me options. So it said, Paul Steinhouse

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Speaker 2: can refer to two notable individuals. One is the knowledge

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Speaker 2: of Paul. Yes, one is the afore mentioned Paul. The

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Speaker 2: other is a contemporary polst Inhouse. You're not, You're contemporary, Paul.

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Speaker 2: How about that? A contemporary Paul Steinhouse, a New Zealand

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Speaker 2: born media and technology professional based in New York. There

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Speaker 2: you go, a tech commentator, media host making frequent appearances

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Speaker 2: to discuss technology trends. There you go, Paul, do you

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Speaker 2: project Jane?

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Speaker 3: Look at that Perplexity knows WhatsApp.

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Speaker 2: We have sold Perplexity this morning. Hey, I think increasingly

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Speaker 2: many of us are using WhatsApp, probably as our primary

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Speaker 2: messaging service now, but some changes are coming to the

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Speaker 2: WhatsApp service.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and look owned by Meta. Right. So we've got Facebook,

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Speaker 3: we've got Instagram, we've got WhatsApp, and what are you

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Speaker 3: some kind of seeing is all of these services are

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Speaker 3: now starting to combine. And so WhatsApp is just launching

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Speaker 3: a feature from Instagram called notes. And so if you're

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Speaker 3: on your WhatsApp, you'll be able to set sort of

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Speaker 3: like a status message that appears by your stories circles.

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Speaker 3: And so the idea is that you set a status

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Speaker 3: and it lasts generally for twenty four hours. You can

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Speaker 3: kind of change some of the timing, but you know,

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Speaker 3: you can be like, hey, I'm Jack, I'm in Melbourne

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Speaker 3: or I'm looking for this thing or whatever it is.

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Speaker 3: It's just interesting that I guess Meta is really trying

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Speaker 3: to bring all these things together. And I did notice

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Speaker 3: recently I use Messenger Facebook Messenger on Mac and they're

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Speaker 3: going to be winding that down over the next couple

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Speaker 3: of months. And I wouldn't be surprised if that means

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Speaker 3: they're kind of going to standardize. I guess we'll try

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Speaker 3: to push everything in one direction. But also, you say,

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Speaker 3: in New Zealand's, especially Latin America, Asia, WhatsApp, especially Europe,

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Speaker 3: WhatsApp is the default. Everyone uses WhatsApp. In the States

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Speaker 3: not so much. The iPhone has such a stranglehold that

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Speaker 3: my Message is kind of a dominant player. And I

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Speaker 3: think by bringing some of the Instagram features over WhatsApp

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Speaker 3: is probably part of their play as well, to get

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Speaker 3: WhatsApp feeling maybe a little more familiar to the Instagram

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Speaker 3: folks of the US.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, okay, watch the space. Thanks Paul Paul Steenhouse

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Speaker 2: not to be confused with the missionary author and religious

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Speaker 2: historian Paul Steenhouse, of course.

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