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Speaker 1: A process or some prerequisites for the new for the

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Speaker 1: next All Backs coach. The new All Backs coach, Jason

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Speaker 1: Pine is with us this afternoon. He's been going through

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Speaker 1: the detail. He's on Sports Talk tonight.

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Speaker 2: Get a Pinney.

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Speaker 1: What do you make Jack, You've got to be a

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Speaker 1: key weed and you've got to have international experience.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly narrows the field, as you've said, Jack, doesn't it?

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Speaker 2: And look, I think Steve Lancaster would admit then he'll

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Speaker 2: probably tell you this after five that this isn't This

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean that you can't be the All Blacks coach

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Speaker 2: at any time in the future if you haven't coached internationally.

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Speaker 2: It's just you know, needs master at the moment where

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Speaker 2: what as you said, twenty months out from the World

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Speaker 2: Cup without any international experience, that would be a big risk. So,

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Speaker 2: as I say it, narrow is it down? Then you

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Speaker 2: take out anybody who's not a key We your land

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Speaker 2: on Jamie Joseph and Dave Rennie as the two standout candidates.

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Speaker 2: Joe Schmidt would have been, but by the sounds of it,

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Speaker 2: he's ruled himself out. There are others, the likes of

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Speaker 2: Fern Cootta, Warren Gatland. I guess John Mitchell, who's done

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Speaker 2: the job before and has had good success with the

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Speaker 2: England women team, might be in there, or a couple

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Speaker 2: of real outside the box suggestions. What about going back

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Speaker 2: to the future with Steve Hanson or Ian Foster? Can

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Speaker 2: they would they come out of their Japanese coaching gigs

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Speaker 2: to come down and coach the All Blacks. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I doubt it, but I guess they fit the criteria.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually think it makes sense, give given the

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Speaker 1: time frames that they're dealing with here, because they really

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Speaker 1: need to have a coach in place during the Super

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Speaker 1: Rugby season as soon as possible. Given those time time

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Speaker 1: frame pressures, I think actually narrowing the field just a

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Speaker 1: little bit it makes a whole lot of sense. And

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Speaker 1: they're not getting three thousand cvs.

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Speaker 2: You know absolutely, I know that's right. Yeah, the short

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Speaker 2: list will probably be everybody who applies. You know, they'll,

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Speaker 2: as I say, narrow it down, they'll go through the process.

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Speaker 2: Time is of the essence. Really, they got to get

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Speaker 2: somebody in place, and if it is to be Jamie Joseph,

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Speaker 2: then yeah, the Highlanders have to do a bit of

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Speaker 2: redinking around their coaching team as well, so that all

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Speaker 2: has to be taken into account. We wait to see

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Speaker 2: who washes up at the end of it. So Walkan

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Speaker 2: they see were dominant on Saturday night until the last

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Speaker 2: couple of minutes when keeping Michael Wood had an absolute

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Speaker 2: howl or is at time they go a new keeper.

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Speaker 2: This is a huge decision for Steve Coricker, a massive

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Speaker 2: and probably the biggest decision he's had to make as

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Speaker 2: a coach in terms of selection. Yeah, it was. It

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Speaker 2: was a howler. And for the second time in two weeks,

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Speaker 2: Michael Vouder has been involved in an incidence where goals

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Speaker 2: have been scored and he was well this one. He

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Speaker 2: was totally at fault the previous week, partially at fault.

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Speaker 2: They've got Olie's sale as as a backup. It's a

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Speaker 2: pretty it's a pretty personal decision though. When you drop

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Speaker 2: the goalkeeper, it's not they can get a couple of

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Speaker 2: minutes off the bench in the next game. You know

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Speaker 2: you're rarely consigning them to a bench role for the

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Speaker 2: rest of the season. And that's where Michael vaud sat

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Speaker 2: for the entirety of last season when Alex Paulsen was

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Speaker 2: the goalkeeper. I think he'll make the change. I honestly

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Speaker 2: think Steve Caricker will make the change. I think you'll

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Speaker 2: see Oli Sale there against Perth on Saturday night.

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Speaker 1: And if he makes the change, is that it? Because

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Speaker 1: I can just imagine from the mental component here for

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Speaker 1: Michael Vauer, must just be devastating if you make a

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Speaker 1: couple of eras like that, howlers and all keepers have them,

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Speaker 1: but then you're dropped as a result. It must be

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Speaker 1: so difficult to get yourself back in a head space

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Speaker 1: where you can compete at the top level.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and your mistakes are magnified, aren't they. You know,

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Speaker 2: a player can tread on the ball out in the

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Speaker 2: field and it doesn't actually matter. But to make a

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Speaker 2: mistake as a goalkeeper and often a goal results, yes,

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Speaker 2: a huge test of his resilience and his character. But

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Speaker 2: this is top level sport, jack and sometimes you have

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Speaker 2: to be a bit ruthless.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate your time. Piney Jason Pine will be with us

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