1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: New Zealand's home for trusted news and views. 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: The Mic Hosking Breakfast with the range Rover Villa designed 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 2: to intrigue and news Togshead been. 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 3: Welling and welcome today good news for New Zealand in 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 3: because details of the Northern Expressway are released and we've 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 3: got our best export month ever. Also the Prime Minister 7 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 3: with Starmer of course, overnight more military support to the 8 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 3: Ukraine announced back to Rome as funeral details are released. 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 3: Mark and Jinny Politics Wednesday after right, Richard Arnold and 10 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 3: Steve Price they joined the fun as well. 11 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 4: Hosk. 12 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 3: Welcome to the middle of week already and that's what 13 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 3: short weeks will do for you. A seven past six. 14 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 3: Now hemp crete, you heard me, hemp crete great thermal 15 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 3: mass apparently are the makers and sellers of hemp crete 16 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 3: are asking, and quite rightly and entirely predictable, why are 17 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 3: they not getting the same sort of attention the good 18 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 3: people in the wool industry got the other week from 19 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 3: the government. And that is why we asked last week 20 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 3: whether the government weren't buying themselves an element of trouble 21 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 3: by so openly backing wool. As I said at the time, 22 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 3: I love Woll. Wall has had a crap run of it, 23 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 3: and as a value proposition Wall can make a decent case, 24 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 3: but on pure econs it isn't the cheapest and rightly 25 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 3: or wrongly in a lot of projects, especially the ones 26 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 3: that taxpayer pace for price is the key issue. False 27 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 3: economies have been the topic of much tumult this past 28 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 3: month or so. Globally. We like free trade, and free 29 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 3: trade is based on the people best at any given product, 30 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 3: making something at the best price and penalizing others isn't fair? 31 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 3: Is backing Wool instructing government departments on Wall? Is that fair? 32 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 3: And if it is, why haven't they instructed them on 33 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 3: hymncret and all the other building products that have lined 34 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 3: up this past week or so and gone, hey, what 35 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 3: about us? And what about them? Can they make a 36 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 3: similar value proposition argument? And if they can, did Wool 37 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: set the precedent? And in that is the trouble of 38 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 3: wandering off peacete When you're a free market country places 39 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 3: like America, of course, they rely on lobbyists and it's 40 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 3: a mess. They pay money, twist arms by favors. That's 41 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 3: how government support works. It's crooked. The beauty of free 42 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 3: trade is the best person wins. That's why we win 43 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 3: in so many areas Wool, as much as I love 44 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 3: it was a sop, an MMP coalition deal, sop to 45 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 3: New zeaven first. It was based on the motion and 46 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 3: old fashioned economics. As happy as we are for Wool, 47 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 3: and we are and as much of a buzz as 48 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 3: the announcement gave rural New Zealand, and it did. It 49 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 3: did open the door to him, Crete and all the 50 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 3: other creeds. Their argument is just as valid, but won't 51 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 3: get the same response, and that is not a level 52 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 3: playing field. 53 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: News of the World in ninety seconds now. 54 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 3: Of Rome, where we have more details of the late 55 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 3: Pope's resting place. 56 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 5: No surprise, say very Major is one of the It 57 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 5: would be the major basilica that most resembles a parish church. 58 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 5: There's always people there, there's always masters going. 59 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 3: On, there's always a sacrament of penants. 60 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 5: It has a good outreach program to the poor. 61 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 3: We'll get back to rhyme after seven o'clock this morning 62 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 3: in Britain, where our Prime Minister has been talking war, 63 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 3: of course, and training and cooperation with the British Prime Minister. 64 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 3: The UK have announced more support for Ukraine. 65 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 6: At this critical moment for Ukraine for European security. We 66 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 6: have stepped up the government's efforts for Ukraine, and we 67 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 6: will step up further, both to increase military support for 68 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 6: the fight today and to secure peace for tomorrow. 69 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 3: Sakia head to wine In on last week's court decision, 70 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 3: I welcome the. 71 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 6: Court's decision and ruling. 72 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 7: I think is very important that we've now brought real clarity, 73 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 7: which is going to be really helpful, I think for 74 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 7: everybody going forwards, and to reaffirm something that I'd long argued, 75 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 7: which is about safe spaces for women. That's always been 76 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 7: really important. 77 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 3: Then snight sign they're still added over Harvard. Harvard is suing. 78 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 8: We filed a lawsuit to halt the funding freeze because 79 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 8: it is unlawful and beyond the government's authority. The consequences 80 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 8: of the government's overreach will be severe and long lasting. 81 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 3: The White House not for turning the. 82 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 9: Gravy train is over, and they came out with this 83 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 9: last night. The gravy train of federal assistance institutions like Harvard, 84 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 9: which enriched their grossly overpaid bureaucrats with taxpayer dollars from 85 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 9: struggling American families is coming to an end. 86 00:03:58,400 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: And guess what taxpayer funds are? 87 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 9: Privilege and Harvard fails to meet the beast of conditions. 88 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 3: Finally, the Tiger King's tired the knot. Yes, he's still 89 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 3: in jail. You remember Joe Exotic. He's married a fellow inmate. 90 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 3: He's serving a twenty one year sentence. Of course, announced 91 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 3: his engagement to Joje Marches last October. He's on a 92 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 3: quest now to get his Mexican partner asylum should they 93 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 3: get out. Of course, if he can't get him asylum, 94 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 3: he's threatening to leave America, which may well be no 95 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: bad thing. The two met in jail, given Marches is 96 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:32,679 Speaker 3: serving time for immigration related issues. Cool couple. So here's 97 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 3: the world in nineteen You want you want some fun 98 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 3: around tariff You want to see how mental the tariffs 99 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 3: have got. The US Commas Department of announced overnight new 100 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: tariffs for solar panels on Cambodia, Thailand, Malaysia, Vietnam. There 101 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 3: are alleging subsidies from China and dumping of unfairly cheap 102 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 3: products in the US market. So what are these tariffs? 103 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 3: What are they announced? Over night? Three thousand, five hundred 104 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 3: and twenty one percent. That's how mad the world is. 105 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 3: It's eleven past six. 106 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,559 Speaker 2: The Make Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on Aheart Radio. 107 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: Carl If the News talks. 108 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 3: EP slightly unfortunate post Eastern news for you. The lind 109 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 3: CEO Global Lint CEO has been talking post easter and 110 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 3: he says cocoa prices will remain elevated. In fact, he 111 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 3: doesn't believe cocoa prices will ever ever come down to 112 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 3: the levels they have been before. So chocolate's expensive. Fourteen 113 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 3: past second right from Westpac CHEP Economist Kelly Echolder is 114 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 3: back with us this Wednesday morning. Kelly, morning to you, 115 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 3: Good morning. Oh the glory days of March. Crunch these 116 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 3: numbers for us and remind us how good life can be. 117 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 10: Well, yeah, I mean March was a great month for 118 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 10: the export sector. You can't say anything much. 119 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: More than that. 120 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 10: I mean, basically, we went into those Liberation Day tariffs 121 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 10: at the start of April and very good nick with 122 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 10: respect to that sector. Trade surplus nine hundred and seventy 123 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 10: million for March, largest since twenty twenty, and even after 124 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 10: the seasonal adjustments, we just ended up with a sliver 125 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 10: of a deficit there. And this is all because exports 126 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 10: are up really strongly nineteen percent for the year. Dairy 127 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 10: and meat exports up thirty four percent, and even fruit 128 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 10: up seventy four percent, and the Chiwi fruit guys doing 129 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 10: very well. China. Exports of China are very strong, those 130 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 10: are up twenty three percent. And even in the US, 131 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 10: our exports are up quite strongly as well, by twenty percent. 132 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 10: So you know, in the last twelve months we had 133 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 10: a small six hundred million trade surplus with the US 134 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 10: and a one point six billion surflace with China. So 135 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 10: that's all plenty of money coming in into the regional economies. 136 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 10: You know, perhaps the other side of the coy in 137 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 10: New Zealand had a four billion deficit with Korea, so 138 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 10: perhaps we should be imposing a tariff on them. 139 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 4: I don't know. 140 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 3: No, well, they're very good numbers. We'll take them for now. 141 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 3: By the way, you had to look at you guys 142 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 3: at Whisper, I had to look at the other regional 143 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 3: round up. Where are we looking? Let me guess Canterbury's 144 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 3: doing well. 145 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 10: The South Island is the pick of the bunch. Canterbury, 146 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 10: Otago South and in particular most of the country. Businesses 147 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 10: are still sort of saying that conditions are quite cool 148 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 10: across the country. The operating environment's pretty tough, but they 149 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 10: are feeling quite optimistic about where the economy is heading 150 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 10: at least, you know, in this early and the tariff environment, 151 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 10: the lower interest rates, those strong commodity and export earnings 152 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 10: have just been talking about the real drivers there. There 153 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 10: is a bit of nervousness about the global backdrop and 154 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 10: the tariffs. It's going to require pretty close watching this effort. 155 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 10: It's going to be enough to derail the economy. As 156 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 10: I noted, bottom of the South Island the really strong 157 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 10: areas tourism exports the key issue there and interestingly it's 158 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 10: continued through March and April, even though the weather has 159 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 10: been a bit dry. The dairy production numbers from Downstair 160 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 10: out to indicate that there's still growing production down there, 161 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 10: so that's pretty heartening for the next couple of months 162 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 10: as well. Basically, that strong South Island dollar looks to 163 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 10: be supporting a Q dollar overall right now, and as 164 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,239 Speaker 10: has been the case for a while, the metro area 165 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 10: is particularly Wellington, which remains the epicenter of negativity, Yes. 166 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 3: Speaking negativity, this I am if you can't avoid it. 167 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: This morning, pretty much everyone's in for some trouble, including America, 168 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 3: aren't they. 169 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 10: The new forecast, Yeah, some very sharply revised global growth 170 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 10: forecasts overnight. Probably should have expected that. Actually it could 171 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 10: have been worse, to be honest with you, Mike. I mean, basically, 172 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 10: they've not half of a percent of global growth for 173 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 10: this year, abou zero point three percent of global growth 174 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 10: for next year, pretty close to what I guessed would 175 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 10: probably likely to be the case. The sharpest downgrades are 176 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 10: for the US, given that they're the ones imposing most 177 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 10: of the tariffs are globally, they're basically looking at US 178 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 10: growth only being one point four percent this year and 179 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 10: one and a half percent twenty twenty six, appreciable chances 180 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 10: of recession there as well, and even China that marked 181 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 10: the Chinese growth forecast down about half of a percent 182 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 10: or so as well, four percent for this year, four 183 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 10: percent for next year. But your guess is as good 184 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 10: as mine. What numbers the authorities actually publish. 185 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Now I'm looking at the markets this morning. 186 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 3: We've changed their mind. The end of the world yesterday 187 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 3: not so bad today. 188 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 10: No pretty decent. Actually some comforting sort of like sounds 189 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 10: there coming around from trade deals, et cetera. Down up 190 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 10: two percent thirty eight ninety seven sevens s P five hundred, 191 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 10: also up two percent five to two five nine, Nasdak 192 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 10: up two point two sixteen two to two two. The 193 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 10: foot Sea was up zero point six percent eight three 194 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 10: two eight. The Niko was actually down. In Asian trading 195 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 10: actually recovered a little bit from most of the days 196 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 10: that finished at thirty four two two two. The Shanghai 197 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 10: Index up zero point two five percent through two nine nine. 198 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 10: The Assie exchange was flat at seven eight one six. 199 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 10: The Kwi exchange didn't do quite so well, down two 200 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 10: point three percent eleven eight three six. A couple of 201 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 10: New Zealand companies and they're talking about tariff impax on 202 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 10: their business. Q US unchanged sixty cents, Kossie up point 203 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 10: three percent, ninety four cents, k u Ro up point 204 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 10: eight percent at point five two, Kwi Sterling up point 205 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 10: two percent point five five Yen up point two also 206 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 10: eighty four point five five yen gold thirty four sixty 207 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 10: four up one percent. Did breach thirty five hundred at 208 00:10:55,080 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 10: one stage during trading session, and oil is up almost 209 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 10: a back to sixty seven to twenty. 210 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 3: Good stuff, don't catch up tomorrow. Appreciate it very much, 211 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 3: Kelly Cold Westpac chief, it's asking Tower. I'm always perplexed 212 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 3: on this. I mean good on them as a business. 213 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 3: They've up their profit forecast the forecast range by ten 214 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 3: million dollars too, somewhere between seventy and eighty. So far, 215 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 3: they've only had one big weather event in the current year. 216 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 3: That was the Dunedan floods of last October out of easter. 217 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 3: By the way, they've had two hundred and fifty claims 218 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 3: that'll assume will go up that may exceed eventually the 219 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 3: two million threshold for a larger event. They've reduced their 220 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 3: expected growth and premium's income to single digits. A lot 221 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 3: of competition in the market apparently for housing, in motor 222 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 3: vehicle insurance. But so they're doing better, and I know it. Interestingly, 223 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 3: they're also still paying out on christ Church, if you 224 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 3: can believe it, because we're sort of revisiting the whole thing. 225 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 3: Inadequate repairs, undiscovered damage, inflation since twenty ten, all that 226 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 3: sort of stuff. So they're doing better, but then again, 227 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 3: you know who's paying for it, don't you? When the 228 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 3: old premium arrives on the mail. Six twenty one here 229 00:11:58,760 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 3: at news Talk said been. 230 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 2: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 231 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 2: by the News Talks. 232 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,839 Speaker 3: At b just on that IMF announcement overnight because it 233 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 3: was material the April two. This is then queun quoting 234 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 3: April two Rose Garden announcement forced us to jettison our predictions. 235 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 3: So he's turned the world upside down, which I suspect 236 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 3: is part of the plan. Of course, they now view 237 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 3: a recession. There's a global recession at forty percent, which 238 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 3: is up from twenty five percent. They don't specifically talk 239 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 3: of a recession in the United States. There's mixed commentary 240 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 3: on that, but as I think Kelly quite rightly pointed out, 241 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 3: who the hell would know what's going on? But if 242 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 3: you want a material example, one of the bell where 243 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 3: the countries you look to is South Korea, of course, 244 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 3: because they have tremendous business with the United States, or 245 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 3: did have anyway, their custom service department first twenty days 246 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 3: of April business to America's down five point two percent, 247 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 3: So it's a bell weather so where's the trade heading 248 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 3: not good at Car and steel shipments down six point 249 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 3: five and eight point seven, So car six point five down, 250 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 3: steel eight point seven down. Overall exports from South Korea 251 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 3: to the States are down fourteen point three percent on 252 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 3: the year. Semiconductors they're up ten point two, so they 253 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 3: can do business now. Semiconductors didn't face up until this 254 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 3: particular point tariff's, but tariffs on those products are coming, 255 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 3: so you can see the material impact he's having. Six 256 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 3: twenty five. 257 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 2: Trending now with Chemist ware House book in Your flu 258 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: Vaccination Today. 259 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 3: Gaberd Attenburn News No Keeping him Down set to release 260 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 3: eight if you can believe it. 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We are dreaming. 271 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 11: A life homotion today is in such poor health, they 272 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 11: would find it hard not to lose hope were it 273 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 11: not for the most remarkable discovery of all the ocean 274 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 11: can recover faster than we had ever imagined. 275 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 3: Exactly science will save us. Eighth of May is the release. 276 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 3: The significance of that is that's the day turns ninety nine. 277 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 3: It's been an extraordinary life of all the lives of 278 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 3: the old people. You've been were thinking of the pope 279 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 3: at the moment of all the lives. Surely Attinborough is 280 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 3: one of the greatest of modern humanity. After living nearly 281 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 3: one hundred years on this planet, I now understand the 282 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 3: most important place on this planet is not on land, 283 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 3: but on sea. To more modern matters, shortly in New Zealand, 284 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 3: first fascination with women in what is a Woman? I 285 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 3: would have assumed we would have run with the Supreme 286 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 3: Court ruling out of Britain the the day, but they 287 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 3: seem to have somewhat other ideas. We'll have a look 288 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 3: at this in the next half hour of the program. 289 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 3: And on those trade numbers, we need to really crunch 290 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: into those and see how well the New Zealand economy 291 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 3: is doing. Will do that for you after seven thirty 292 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 3: Meantime News. 293 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 2: Next setting the agenda and talking the big issues, the 294 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 2: Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, your local experts 295 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: across residential, commercial and rural news talks, Dad. 296 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 3: Be mich nital Stateside on the IMF for forecast for 297 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 3: not only the American economy, but the global economy as well, 298 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 3: Meantime on other international matters, Lucks and of Courses and 299 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 3: Brittany was on the program yesterday's meadovernight' Starmer. He's reviewed 300 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 3: the troops. We're making a significant contribution to the training 301 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 3: of Ukraine troops and we've also made a sixty six 302 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 3: million dollar announcement overnight on drones and sales from New 303 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 3: Zealand companies to help in that particular effort. 304 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 13: It is incredibly sobering to think that many of you 305 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 13: have been to this place to train, you've been out 306 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 13: to the battlefront. You've come back now as leaders to 307 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 13: actually do more training and in a matter of days 308 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 13: could be back at the frontline again, actually fighting for 309 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 13: freedom and the defense of your country and what is 310 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 13: an incredibly unjust, illegal and a moral war started by Russia. 311 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 13: And so I want you to know that you are heroes. 312 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 13: President Zelenski as a hero and all Ukrainian citizens are 313 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 13: heroes as well in our eyes, revealing. 314 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 3: The troops and representing as well. I think on the 315 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 3: international stage, he sounds very solid, doesn't he? As I say, 316 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 3: we'll talk to Don McKinnon's donm m kinnon, former Foreign 317 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 3: Affairs Minister of Deputy Prime Minister and here of the 318 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 3: Commonwealthi's with us after seven o'clock on our evolving relationship 319 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 3: between New Zealand and the UK. Meantime, back home, New 320 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 3: Zealand first seemed to be occupying themselves with gender issues 321 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 3: these days. They did have that bathroom bill seemingly went 322 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 3: nowhere because it's been replaced by the campaign to Define 323 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 3: Men and Women. It's a member's bill that's been introduced 324 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 3: to clarify the two genders. The move follows, of course, 325 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 3: the Supreme Court ruling in Britain last week Speak Up 326 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 3: for Women. Susanne Levy is with Zan. Good morning to you. 327 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 14: Oh, good morning, Mike. 328 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 3: What's your sense of this as an issue in this 329 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 3: country right now? 330 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 15: Oh? 331 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 14: This is definitely an issue in this country. If if 332 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 14: you're a woman or a parent, you should be concerned 333 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 14: about whether or not spaces that are designated for women 334 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 14: and are in fact reserved for women. And you know, 335 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 14: our laws need to be workable and definable. There's no 336 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 14: sort of place in them for subjective terms. Sex has 337 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 14: really never had any other meaning than biological sex. And 338 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 14: you know, I think that the UK Supreme Court ruling 339 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 14: kind of you know, you know, reminded us of that, 340 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 14: sort of reminded everybody everybody of that. 341 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 3: Well, it was a unanimous ruling, wasn't It was fairly 342 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 3: clear cut. What do we need our own I mean, 343 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 3: I know technically we probably do, but why can't we 344 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 3: just go see that British thing? We're kind of British, we. 345 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 4: Do that too. 346 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 14: Well, well, yes, I mean we have they have the 347 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 14: equalities that we have. The Human Rights Acts are very 348 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 14: similar and they'm not identical. You know, we won't just 349 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 14: go you know, we're just like the UK will do 350 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 14: the same, but we will definitely our lawmakers will definitely 351 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 14: lot to that ruling. It's not irrelevant to New Zealand 352 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 14: at all. 353 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 3: What I mean, it's a member's bill. It needs to 354 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 3: be pulled out. It'd be interesting to know whether it 355 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 3: was a conscience vote if it was a conscience vote. 356 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 3: Do you reckon it would pass the parliament? 357 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 14: That's that's a tough one. It was a conscience vote. 358 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 14: I think it, I think it could. I think you know, 359 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 14: there are so many, so many people that you talk 360 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 14: to that won't say it, won't say it out loud. 361 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 14: They'll say, you know, of course people can't change sex. 362 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 14: Of course sex is real, but they're not prepared to 363 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 14: sort of go out and say that, so they would 364 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 14: get pressure. There would be a lot of pressure on 365 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 14: MPs from you know, constituents to to vote that way. Certainly, 366 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 14: polling would indicate that, you know, all the polling that's 367 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 14: been done on these sorts of issues indicates people don't 368 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 14: really think that you can change sex. They don't they 369 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 14: don't think that trans people should be treated poorly, but 370 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 14: at the same time, they don't think that you can 371 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 14: change sex. 372 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 3: So it's also just a definition things for the practicalities 373 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 3: like bathrooms. 374 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 15: What do you do? 375 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 16: Though? 376 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 3: Now here's your next question. In Britain at the moment, 377 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 3: they're having trouble implementing it. So a lot of hospitals, 378 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 3: universities are going, well, what do we do? 379 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 4: How do we do it? 380 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 3: So we got this law up and it was not 381 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 3: dissimilar to Britain, and then everyone started going, well, I 382 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 3: can't do this and I can't do that in the 383 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 3: can so the implementation becomes a problem. 384 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 14: Well, what I would say to that is of organizations 385 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 14: like you know, Gender Minority had spent the last five 386 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 14: or ten years advocating for spaces and services for trans 387 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 14: identifying people rather than focusing on co opting women's spaces, 388 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 14: we would all be a hell of a lot better off. 389 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 14: I think we do have a good range of universal 390 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 14: spaces here. You know, we've got quite a few gender 391 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 14: neutral spaces, and I think would be a matter of 392 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 14: working on that. You know, as a woman's rights organization, 393 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 14: it's not really our job to advocate for those third spaces, 394 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 14: but we have been we've been suggesting councils that they 395 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 14: implement these sort of universal changing spaces, which you know, 396 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 14: do give people who aren't comfortable changing in the in 397 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 14: the facility that matches their sex, you know, somewhere to 398 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 14: change that that's safe. So you know that there are differently, 399 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 14: there are ways, there are ways around it. At the moment, 400 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 14: the focus has just been so much on well, you know, 401 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 14: we want to use women's space, So you know, so 402 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 14: I think we need to sort of roll that back 403 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 14: and look a look at practical practical solutions universal spaces, 404 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 14: but keeping single sex spaces as well. 405 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 17: So you know. 406 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 14: So, so women have somewhere that's just for them, Men 407 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 14: have somewhere that's just for them. And if you don't 408 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 14: feel like that's somewhere you want to change, then a 409 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 14: third space? Then is a third space? 410 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 3: All right? Well, let's see where it goes is And 411 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 3: as I say, it's members bill and we've got to 412 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 3: be pulled out of the old biscuit tin and then 413 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 3: it'll be fascinating. But we'll talk to Mark and Gingy 414 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 3: about this after eight o'clock this morning. 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The Dow, by 447 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 18: the way, has jumped some two and a half percentage 448 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 18: points in today's session, still trading, but we've seen his 449 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 18: game before, up by around nine hundred points currently investigators 450 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 18: with spear cash mostly the wealthier, picking the eyes out 451 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 18: of the Wall Street market, but overall it is down 452 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 18: by nine to ten percent since Trump decleared his tariff 453 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 18: for the Dow was off by nearly one thousand points 454 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 18: in his last session. Do you solely to Donald Trump 455 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 18: if you're big concerns that he might sack the head 456 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 18: of the US Central Bank feed Chair, Jerome Powell, even 457 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 18: though there's no provision to do that under American law. 458 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 18: But Coump posted this and what seemed to be a 459 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 18: bid to make power the scapegoat for rising prices and 460 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 18: rising interest rates. Quote, there can be a slowing of 461 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 18: the economy. So is this the president sort of considering 462 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 18: a recession? He went on, quote unless mister too late, 463 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 18: a major loser, lower's interest rates now with nowwin or caps. 464 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 18: So that triggered the massive one day stock market selloff, 465 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 18: and at the minute, this partial turnaround by the way. 466 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 18: Hell was appointed by Trump, and he does not set 467 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 18: interest rates. Those rates are said by a majority vote 468 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 18: of the Federal Reserve Committee, which has twelve members, all 469 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 18: of whom seem to agree currently on the damage being 470 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 18: caused by the tariff policy. See Leaseman of the Financial 471 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 18: Network CNVC here. 472 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 19: Says somebody needs to turn to the camera and tell 473 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 19: the president to stop. I mean, he is messing with 474 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 19: the foundation of this country. He's messing with the foundation 475 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 19: of the economy. He's messing with America's place in the 476 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 19: global financial system. 477 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 18: So is there evidence of that? The Wall Street Journal, 478 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 18: run of course by the Murdock family, says the Trump 479 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 18: stock market it on its way to quote the worst 480 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 18: April since nineteen thirty two end quote. So Murdock and co. 481 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 18: Comparing this to the very depths of the Great Depression. Well, 482 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 18: here are some numbers on Wall Street the S and P, 483 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 18: which tracks five hundred leading companies as having the worst 484 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 18: start to any US presidency since nineteen twenty eight when 485 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 18: they first started to track this. Gold prices today have 486 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 18: hit a record high. This is where, of course, many 487 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 18: investors go when they see the market says we're too chaotic. 488 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 18: Gold now thirty five hundred dollars US and ounce the 489 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 18: American dollars at its lowest level since twenty twenty two. 490 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 18: The IMF, as you said at the outset, is predicting 491 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 18: a global downturn. They forecast that economic growth in the 492 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 18: US will be down from two point eight percent last 493 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 18: year to one point eight percent this year. Globally, they 494 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 18: forecast a slump from three point three last year to 495 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 18: two point eight percent. Trump says this is just a 496 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 18: transition period, quote unquote, Well, you didn't say anything like 497 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 18: that during the campaign, but you know, time moves on. 498 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 18: The White House says there are eighteen tentative trade deals 499 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 18: on paper, no details of what, how and why or 500 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 18: how long will all this call go on? Meantime, car 501 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 18: prices you are about to surge because of the twenty 502 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 18: five percent Trump tariff. And I just got a call 503 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 18: before this segment, Mike, from a local car dealer warding 504 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 18: of those price highths. We've seen lots of commercials making 505 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 18: the same point like this. 506 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 20: Starting next week, all vehicle prices go up because of 507 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:21,959 Speaker 20: the twenty five percent Outle tariff. 508 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 7: Now is the time why wait and pay twenty five 509 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 7: percent more so? 510 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 18: Yeah, you got seventy thousand bucks in cash by Now 511 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 18: what about old Higgsith? 512 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 3: Does he survive? 513 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 17: What about? Yeah? 514 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 18: The White House, through its press secretary, has just come 515 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 18: out saying Trump strongly supports his Pentagon chief despite the 516 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 18: latest scandal. Defense Secretary Pete Higgsith was foundel shared sensitive 517 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 18: material on yet another party line phone chats. He loves 518 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 18: his party lines, doesn't he? This time his wife was included. 519 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 18: She has no government position zip, but she seems, you know, 520 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 18: tag along to all sorts of high level meetings. His 521 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 18: brother also was online for this one. He was given 522 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 18: a Pentagon gig because he. 523 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 17: Was obviously the best person for the job, right. 524 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 18: Hegseth has been on Fox News today saying he was 525 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 18: set up by aids he actually hired, and the White 526 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 18: House press boss endorses that claim, saying politicos and leakers 527 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 18: are trying to smear poor old Pete. 528 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 21: It's been clear since day one from this administration that 529 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 21: we are not going to tolerate individuals who leak to 530 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 21: the mainstream media, particularly when it comes to sensitive information. 531 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: Dang that media. 532 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 18: Well, three people sacked by Heggs's say they didn't leak anything, 533 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 18: and they claim they were acted by Hegseth, as his 534 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 18: team is reported to being through old social media to 535 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 18: make sure everybody is loyal to Trump. New York Times 536 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 18: is reporting that things that the Pentagon are chaotic. There 537 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 18: were one Republican lawmaker Don Bacon has gone public calling 538 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 18: for Hegseth to be sacked. He says he is not 539 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 18: going to tell the White House how to manage things, 540 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 18: but says he would find it quote unacceptable if he 541 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 18: was in charge end quote would not tolerate it. There 542 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 18: are reports, denied by the White House, that the Hunter's 543 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 18: on for Hegseth's replacement, but Trump's Rep. Karen Levit says 544 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 18: Hegsis has the presidents pulled backing Levit, of course we 545 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 18: know has been wrong before catch up next week. 546 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 3: Richard Arnold stateside for US this morning. Just weird the 547 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 3: Homeland Security Secretary, Christy Nome. So she's in a restaurant 548 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 3: Sunday night, gets a bagnet. Now she has security secret service, 549 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 3: so you got to wonder what the hell they're doing. 550 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 3: So they've been wandering through the security camera footage. They've 551 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 3: seen an unknown white male wearing a medical mask steal 552 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 3: a bag and leave the restaurant, so they're busy chasing 553 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 3: him at the moment. The contents of a bag I 554 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 3: found interesting? Do you find this interesting? Driver's license, fair enough, medication, 555 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 3: fair enough apartment keys, YEP, passport, passport? What's she doing 556 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 3: carrying a passport in her bag and then leaving a bag, 557 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 3: access bag, makeup bag, blank checks and three thousand dollars 558 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 3: in cash? Is that unusual contents? 559 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 2: Or is that just me ate away from seven the 560 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 2: Mike Hosking Breakfast with the range Rover Villa news togs 561 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 2: Head been. 562 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 3: Holding Mike odd things and handbags typically put to point 563 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 3: to fraudulent insurance claims. Don't know if that's true. There's 564 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 3: a poll out this morning, fun Poll J and L 565 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 3: Partner's Canada. Fifty four percent of Canadians prefer King Charles 566 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 3: as their head of state versus fifteen percent for Trump. 567 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 3: Thirty one percent don't know. Thirty one percent is an 568 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 3: astonishingly high number, don't you think? Awfully and decisive? The 569 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 3: Canadians Liberal Party support is seventy six to four the 570 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 3: only people who could run with Trump at the Conservative 571 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 3: Party support is thirty seven to thirty one, even though 572 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 3: don't back at five minutes away from seven. 573 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: All the ins and the outs. 574 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 2: It's the fizz with business tiber take your business productivity 575 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 2: to the next level or. 576 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 3: Logic news this morning. On the housing market, we're seeing 577 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 3: more continuing signs of recovery, which is good. National sales activity, 578 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 3: dwelling values both lifted in March. G March was a 579 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 3: good month, wasn't it when you had take into account 580 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 3: the exports as well, supported by the easing of the 581 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 3: mortgage rates that renewed buyer confidence. Sales volumes up eleven 582 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 3: percent can be at the same time last year, the 583 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 3: national home values are up half a point half a 584 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 3: percent for the month that follows the zero point four 585 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 3: percent in January. Add those two together at zero point 586 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 3: nine percent, almost a percent for two months. Investor activity, yes, 587 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 3: mortgaged investors, they're on the comeback trail. The interest rates 588 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 3: are doing the business there. As regards the economy, the 589 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 3: broader economy mixed a lot of global uncertainty around the 590 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 3: tariff story, really no kidding. While the inflationary impact in 591 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 3: New Zealand is expected to be relatively neutral, a soft 592 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 3: global growth outlook may support further downward pressure on interest rates, 593 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,719 Speaker 3: so they don't do well. We don't do well. As 594 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 3: what they're saying, core Logic is anticipating national home values 595 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 3: to rise by approximately five percent. Now why is that important? 596 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 3: It's important because I've got a bit for lunch with 597 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 3: Andrew callihe who doesn't think the housing market's going to 598 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 3: increase by five percent? I think it is. And so 599 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 3: core Logica starting to side with me, starting to trend 600 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 3: with me. I might invite care Logic along for lunch 601 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 3: and I'll say, Andrew, here are my friends from car 602 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 3: Logic who saw what I saw but you didn't. All 603 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 3: words to that effect. Total house sales are for the 604 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 3: twelve months to March eighty three thousand, five hundred and 605 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 3: forty three, which is a lot of house sales. Starmer 606 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 3: and Luxe and Sedon. Kennon ways in on this in 607 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 3: the next half hour of the program. Then Chris Bishop, 608 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 3: who's building the the BRN Derwin's we're going right over 609 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 3: the top. It's going to cost a shed load and 610 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 3: take years, but that's their decision, he explains more shortly. 611 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 2: The breakfast show Kiwi's Trust to Stay in the Know, 612 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 2: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Alveda retirement, communities, Life Your 613 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 2: Way News. 614 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 3: Togs headb Welling, seven past seven. So our Prime Minister's 615 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 3: met with the British counterpart Downing Street overnight. They've signed 616 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 3: the sixty seven million dollar weapons deal while also agreeing 617 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 3: to extend our involvement in the training program for Ukraine troops. 618 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 13: We are a small country. We are a long long 619 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 13: way away from Ukraine or from the UK but well, 620 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 13: and we have limited resources, but we are here because 621 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 13: you are fighting for values that we believe deeply in. 622 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 13: And those values are the sovereignty of nation states. Those 623 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 13: values are the upholding the international rules based system. It's 624 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 13: about democratic ideals and liberal democracy values that we as 625 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 13: a small country in particular, have huge appreciation for. 626 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 3: Now Foreign Minister and Secretary General of the Commonwealth sa 627 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 3: Dom the Kinnon's with a don morning. 628 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 17: To you, good morning to you. 629 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 3: How much of this is optics versus a growing tangible 630 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 3: closeness between us in Britain. 631 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 17: Well, there's always been a pretty close linkage, particularly at 632 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 17: the military level, and that goes back more than one 633 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 17: hundred years. But the overall sense of horror when the 634 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 17: invasion took place, New Zealand stood up pretty firmly for Ukraine, 635 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 17: I believe still does. But there's a long way to 636 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 17: go before we find see any kind of settlement there. 637 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 3: Well, I was going to say, that's my next question. 638 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 3: All they're announcing more money, more weaponry, more support indicates 639 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 3: what happened to the peace deal? Is this not ending 640 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 3: anytime soon? 641 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 17: Well? I think a lot. We're waiting on Washington, DC there, 642 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 17: and that is becoming very problematical, particularly for European powers, 643 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 17: the United States, you know, having absolutely dominated the dominated 644 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 17: NATO for years now, having hesitancy about even will they 645 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 17: remain in play in relation to this particular conflict. Nevertheless, 646 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 17: no question, European powers are all building up their defenses, 647 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 17: all building up their military, and there won't be a 648 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 17: giveaway here very rapidly. 649 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 3: Do you think what we announced, I mean, this announcement's 650 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 3: one thing, but what we announced the defense the other day, 651 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 3: the nine billion of fresh spending till twelve billion in total. 652 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 3: Will that had been registered in places like Britain. 653 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 17: Oh, I'm sure it would have been. I mean they 654 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 17: would have gone through their notes about well, yes, okay, 655 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 17: New Zealand primes is coming, what are they doing? And 656 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 17: they would be immediately updated on that fact, and what 657 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 17: we have done here by committing ourselves to a much 658 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 17: higher level of military spending, actually gives us far more 659 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 17: clout in the Pacific, which has been diminishing in recent years. 660 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 3: The I mean, you've been around a long time, sinn 661 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 3: seen a lot of things. What do you make of 662 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 3: the world at the moment? I know it's a very 663 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 3: broad based question, but I mean, what do you think. 664 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 17: It's very uncertain, it's very messy, it's very there are 665 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 17: problems everywhere, and when you get big problems like what 666 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 17: is happening in Ukraine, like what is happening in the 667 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 17: Middle East, it's easy for other small skirmishers to go 668 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 17: unnoticed and people to take advantage of the bigger ones 669 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 17: to do their own sort of boundary realignment and things 670 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 17: like that. And you're seeing that in many parts of 671 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 17: the world, particularly in Africa. 672 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 3: Appreciate your insights. To Don mckinnam, former Foreign Minister of 673 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 3: course our Secretary General of the Commonwealth. Ten minutes past seven, 674 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 3: seeing a back home. More details in this country's desire 675 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 3: to build stuff. We've got this morning. The preferred route 676 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 3: for the Northland Expressway rather than bypassing the Brindurwins. We're 677 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 3: planning to go right over the top. There's a bill 678 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 3: attached to that one on every ten dollars that we 679 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 3: will spend on infrastructure in the next twenty five years 680 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 3: will be consumed by this project. A Loann the Transport Minister, 681 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 3: Chris Bishop, good morning, Good morning. Given the size, cost 682 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 3: and complexity of this, what do you reckon the chances 683 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 3: of a massive blowout are. 684 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 22: It's undoubtedly a challenging project, there's no question about that. 685 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 22: The geology, the terrain, the geography. Everyone's aware of the challenges. 686 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 22: I think around the brim Durwins and over the whole route. 687 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 22: So absolutely there's a chance that things will slip. But 688 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 22: that's why we're doing all a lot of work right now, 689 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 22: so detailed design, consenting work, getting the designations right, getting 690 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 22: the funding model rights. There's a lot of work going 691 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 22: on right now to try and avoid all that. 692 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 4: But of course you can't. 693 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 22: You can't say that there won't be potential slippages and costs. 694 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 22: It's a very challenging route. 695 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 3: Just run us through the numbers. When's it start, when's 696 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 3: it finished? And what's the bill? Don't know yet on 697 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 3: all of those things. 698 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 22: That's partly why that's that's one of the reasons why 699 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 22: we're doing it in stages to try and get all 700 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 22: that stuff right. 701 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 16: So Walkworth to Tahna, which is the. 702 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 22: Next road, the next section from the except from the 703 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 22: end of the Northern Motorway right now, that will that's 704 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 22: in procurement. That will likely start construction towards mid to 705 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 22: late twenty twenty six, and that will take some time 706 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 22: to build. In terms of the Briandurwans and the rest 707 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 22: of the road, the Northern Expressway, we're working our way 708 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 22: through that and we'll have more to say once we've 709 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 22: got to finalized confirmed route and once they've done. DTA 710 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,879 Speaker 22: has done a lot of work around the other designations. 711 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 16: And the consents. 712 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 22: So don't want to put a number on these things 713 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 22: now because if I give you a number, we'll turn 714 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 22: up in you know, three years time, and you'll tell 715 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 22: me the numbers changed and someone will accuse me of 716 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 22: misleading people. 717 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 3: And I want to do that. Is it in my lifetime? 718 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 20: Yes? 719 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,879 Speaker 22: Absolutely, Yes, the North think about the Whitecatto Expressway, that's 720 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,959 Speaker 22: that top you know, fifteen to twenty years to build, 721 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 22: start at two thousand and six. It's sort of basically done. 722 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 22: Now we've got the next extension to Cambridge to Pear 723 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 22: Tod to go. But you know that just got progressively 724 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 22: chunked off in stages over about a fifteen year period, 725 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 22: and it's been transformational for the White Kaddow. 726 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 16: That's what the Northern Expressway will be like. 727 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 3: So, yes, it will be done on your lifetime. 728 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 18: Good. 729 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 16: We just need to get on. 730 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 3: And that's not because you think I'm really young, is it? 731 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 17: Now? 732 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 3: Listen, let me I've been reading about the Houjiang Grand 733 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 3: Canyon Bridge. Do you know about that? I'm vaguely familiar 734 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 3: with it yet. Right, So it opens in June. It's 735 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 3: the world's tallest bridge. They started building it in twenty two, 736 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 3: they're finishing in twenty five. How can the Chinese build 737 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 3: the world's tallest bridge, suspension bridge. It's a work of 738 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 3: wonder in three years and we can't even build a 739 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 3: road in fifteen. 740 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 741 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 22: Well, I am pushing NZTA and all the contractors who 742 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 22: work on these broads around the country to. 743 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 15: Crack on with it. 744 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 22: And we just need to do what we can as 745 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 22: quickly as we can to get on and build the 746 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 22: infrastructures illum needs. 747 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 3: All right, I appreciate your time. Sound overly optimistic, did it? 748 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 3: Chris Bishop, the Transport Minister. That bridge, by the way, 749 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 3: twenty two thousand tons trusts. Each trust is twenty two 750 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 3: thousand tons, which is the equivalent of three Eiffel towels. 751 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 3: Look it up. It's spectacular. It will reduce the travel 752 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 3: time through the canyon from two hours to one minute. 753 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 3: Thirteen past seven past speaking which Mike Sellyn's the fastest 754 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,760 Speaker 3: growing region in the country. It's infrastruction which is under pressure. 755 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 3: Roads and schools are strained. Give it a few more 756 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 3: years and they'll be overwhelmed. Funny you should mention that 757 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 3: we are talking about Selwyn. Our friend Paul spoon Ley's 758 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 3: back on the program sociologist of course, and we'll be 759 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 3: doing that for you at about ten to eight after 760 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 3: Roeme in a moment though fourteen past. 761 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 2: The like asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 762 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 2: by News Talks. 763 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 3: At b Now Josh Tanner export New Zealands with us 764 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 3: after seven thirty this morning on these extraordinary export numbers 765 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 3: for our country, and don't we need good export numbers 766 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,240 Speaker 3: at the moment meantime at sixteen past seven, more details 767 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 3: out of Rome on the Pope's funeral. He'll be late 768 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 3: to rest Saturday evening our time. Everyone from trump' Zelenski, Macron, 769 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 3: Prince William A going the New Zealand contingent by the way, 770 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,280 Speaker 3: taking part in the cong Clay belief for Italy today 771 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 3: in cee Arfvetican correspondent Christopher Whites with us Christopher morning. 772 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 15: Good morning, good to be with you. 773 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 3: You traveled extensively with Pope Francis. Your thoughts on the man. 774 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:01,959 Speaker 23: He's the real deal, someone who really enjoys being first 775 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,800 Speaker 23: and foremost with people. I think that's why he captured 776 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 23: the imagination of much of the world, because of his 777 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 23: ability to really offer a credible witness to the message 778 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 23: that he taught. And so, you know, Catholic or non 779 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 23: Catholic alike, I think most people that encountered the Pope 780 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 23: saw someone who was interested in them and walking alongside 781 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 23: them and tackling the issues of the day as a 782 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 23: real pastor. 783 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 3: Do you have a saint forty eight hours is on 784 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 3: what sort of inflex Rome is expecting, you. 785 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 23: Know, I have to say it's a struggle just to 786 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 23: get around the Vatican these days. This is already high season, 787 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 23: it's Easter, and add on top of that, it's a 788 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 23: jubilee year, a year that's expected to bring over thirty 789 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 23: million pilgrims to Rome. 790 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 15: So Rome was already congested. 791 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,760 Speaker 23: And as you just ticked off at the at the beginning, 792 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 23: world leaders as well as just average Catholics alike are. 793 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:56,839 Speaker 15: Pouring into Rome. 794 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 23: We don't have any real estimates, but we're expecting that 795 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 23: number to certainly be in the millions by the time 796 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 23: the funeral takes place on Saturday. 797 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 3: How does that security operation work? Is that the Vetican 798 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:08,800 Speaker 3: or is that Italy? 799 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 23: It's a combination of the both, you know, obviously two 800 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 23: separate countries, but they have to work in close collaboration together. 801 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 3: And will it be tight? Can you breathe and move? 802 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 20: Oh? 803 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 15: I think it will be a very tight security perimeter. 804 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 23: I mean it will have you know, it's very rare 805 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 23: that you have folks like you know, from Trump to 806 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 23: Zelenski to Macron all in the same place. Will have 807 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 23: the feel of a United Nations assembly, and you can 808 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 23: expect security to match that. 809 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 3: I keep reading there are no favorites to replace them. 810 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 3: Is that your assessment and literally anything could happen will not. 811 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 16: Look. 812 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 15: I think we have to brace ourselves for anything. 813 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 23: I mean, Pope Francis has diversified the college of cardinals, 814 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 23: the men who will elect among themselves a successor. 815 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,479 Speaker 15: The Catholic churches are crossroads in this moment. 816 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,320 Speaker 23: They have to decide, you know, if they want to 817 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 23: continue on the path of reform initiated by Pope Francis, 818 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,760 Speaker 23: of a church that's more welcoming and inclusive and reforming 819 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 23: its structural structures accordingly, or if they want a course correction. 820 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 23: And I think you know, Pote Francis named eighty percent 821 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 23: of the cardinals who will elect his successor, so there's 822 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 23: a strong chance that the next Pope will share his priorities. 823 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 23: But in terms of particular candidates, it's very hard to know. 824 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 3: Christopher, appreciate your insight very much. Christopher White, who's the 825 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 3: Vatican correspondent with US Mike, having been to China. They 826 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 3: work twenty four to seven in shifts on infrastructure projects. 827 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 3: Hence the efficiency. Yeah, I knew that, and that's why 828 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,840 Speaker 3: I asked Christopher luxA Christopher bishop, about it, because I 829 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 3: knew full well that we don't do that sort of 830 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 3: thing in this country, even though potentially we could have, 831 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 3: we really wanted to. Mike, I recently went to Clyde Dam. 832 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 3: I was looking around there thinking it dawned on me 833 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 3: that there was absolutely no way we could build this 834 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 3: now it was the last big infrastructure project New Zealand. 835 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 3: Ever did I think that's true. The other problem we 836 00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 3: got at the moment, of course, is education and teaches. 837 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 3: So some on that for you. Shortly seven twenty. 838 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:08,240 Speaker 2: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 839 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 2: by News Talks ev. 840 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 3: Chemists warehouse always here for you. They open earlier, they 841 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 3: close late, which is super convenient. 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We aren't training as many teachers, so 860 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 3: that will require more and more of them to be 861 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 3: brought into the country. The Minister suggested, I think optimistically 862 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,399 Speaker 3: that it was about more than pay, It was about 863 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,839 Speaker 3: resource and support, which I'm sure is true. The question 864 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 3: is whether it solves anything, does anything? I mean, does 865 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 3: anything solve anything anymore? Is teaching simply a profession, like 866 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 3: so many professions, that is no longer what it was, 867 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,320 Speaker 3: and therefore why would you be one? Kids are snots, 868 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 3: and if they aren't not, schools are riddle with social 869 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 3: issues that no teachers should have to deal with, and 870 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 3: yet they do. Teachers are social workers more than they 871 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 3: are teachers, and even with all the holidays, numbers don't lie. 872 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 3: They aren't enrolling the way they used to. Now the 873 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 3: trouble is, at the same time teacher numbers are dropping, 874 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 3: the number of kids isn't. It's expected to peak next year, 875 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 3: So the gap widens in bringing teachers, and you face 876 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 3: a twofold issue. I would have thought, One, you've got 877 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 3: to find teachers in a world where everyone is looking 878 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 3: for teachers, And two, even if you find them, they've 879 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,320 Speaker 3: got to want to move here and teach here. Is 880 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 3: New Zealand really a magnet the way it used to be? 881 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,280 Speaker 3: I could reassure you, I guess, by suggesting the teachers 882 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,879 Speaker 3: I had, so we're going back forty fifty years were 883 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 3: virtually all ordinary, all of them, even with age and 884 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,760 Speaker 3: some maturity. I look back at the ones I can remember, 885 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 3: Not a single one was exceptional or brilliant or even 886 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,320 Speaker 3: really that good. They were average. They were average and 887 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 3: average school that turned out average kids. Is it possible 888 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 3: the great teachers are, and indeed always have been, the exception, 889 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 3: the ones with the calling, the ones who had driven 890 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 3: the rest of merely, which doesn't, of course, solve the problem. 891 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 1: We have a lot to do with it. 892 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 3: Of course, as society, it's a mess these days, held back, 893 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 3: held down by any number of anxieties and concerns, and 894 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,919 Speaker 3: attitude's division and anger and frustration, a sense of last 895 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 3: and bewilderment and upheaval that occupies pretty much everywhere we 896 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,760 Speaker 3: go these days globally. And so we send our offspring, 897 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 3: that's if we send them at all, are to get 898 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,399 Speaker 3: shaped by this miracle worker that we pay average money 899 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 3: to in what may be a leaky building with minimal resource. 900 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 3: We are setting it all up for failure. It's complex, 901 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,320 Speaker 3: of course it is. But if the minister's right and 902 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,840 Speaker 3: she can turn it, she deserves a medal, if not 903 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:06,800 Speaker 3: beatification asking Mike, we can't build quick light the Chinese 904 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 3: because there's too much bureaucracy and reasons why we can't, 905 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,400 Speaker 3: as opposed to reasons why we can. I think you're 906 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 3: probably right on that, he and Mike. The government is 907 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 3: also announcing one hundred million upgrade to the Western Access 908 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 3: to Tower on eventually opening up thirty thousand new houses 909 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 3: by twenty sixty five. We're finally getting this country moving well. 910 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 3: If you've seen the export numbers, which we'll talk about 911 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,799 Speaker 3: in the moment that is true, we are moving. Mike's 912 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 3: shame on you. You didn't ask Chris Bishop why we 913 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 3: don't build these large infrastructure projects twenty four seven. Well, 914 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 3: it's not shame on me. Do I really need to 915 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 3: state the obvious? Is every interview I do about the obvious? 916 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,439 Speaker 3: The reason we don't you know why we don't because 917 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 3: we don't have the aptitude. We don't have the attitude, 918 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 3: we don't have the labor force, we don't pay the money, 919 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 3: we don't have the desire. I mean, it's all there 920 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 3: for you, Mike. I do enjoy listening to your show. 921 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 3: Very kind of you to say, do you know of 922 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 3: the Pope's funerals being televised in New Zealand? Well, of 923 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 3: course it will be Leslie. Certainly the BBC will run it. 924 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 3: I would imagine Sky. If you're on Sky platform, Sky 925 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 3: will run it. The C and M will almost certainly 926 00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,399 Speaker 3: run it, or don't know about Fox, And if you're 927 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 3: not on Sky, somebody like TV one, being a state broadcaster, 928 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 3: will undoubtedly collect up the BBC's broadcast and do it 929 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 3: free to air for you as well, so there will 930 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 3: be no shortage of live coverage of that particular event right, 931 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 3: so the business of Selwyn will get to by the way, 932 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,320 Speaker 3: with Paul Spoonley, the fastest growing region in the country. 933 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,320 Speaker 3: I know Selwyn well, I love Selwyn. I want to 934 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 3: move to Selwyn, but I am currently prevented from doing 935 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 3: so by matters that really shan't be aired on this 936 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,280 Speaker 3: particular prayer. But nevertheless, lots of people have moved to Selwyn, 937 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,959 Speaker 3: so what do we do about that and their issues coming? 938 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 3: But we need to continue to celebrate these numbers. Out 939 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 3: of March, New Zealand Inc. Is booming more shortly. 940 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:45,320 Speaker 2: Your source of breaking news, challenging opinion and honored facts. 941 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 2: The Mike Hosking breakfast with the range Rover vi La 942 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 2: designed to intrigue. 943 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 1: Can use TOGSADBA. 944 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 3: I gave you some housing information earlier on from core Logic. 945 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,240 Speaker 3: I can give you some from I trade me property 946 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,320 Speaker 3: around the rental market. At the moment, the rental market's 947 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 3: fascinating listings are at a teen year high in March, 948 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:06,359 Speaker 3: higher since twenty fourteen. National medium weekly rent is down 949 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 3: five bucks to six thirty five and interestingly, where you 950 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 3: look around the country, pretty much wherever you go you're 951 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,480 Speaker 3: paying six hundred Ish dollars. It doesn't matter whether you 952 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,720 Speaker 3: live in Auckland or the other end of the country. 953 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 3: You're paying six hundred and something dollars. The only exception 954 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 3: appears to be Southland, where you're paying four seventy. Everywhere 955 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 3: else is six hundred and something dollars. Rent To add 956 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,840 Speaker 3: a record high in Nelson, Tasman, rent for smaller Auckland 957 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 3: properties has also peaked. Wellington units, townhouses and apartments have 958 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 3: seen their rentals fall a year on year numbers. The 959 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 3: material falls in Taranaki down four point eight percent. This 960 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 3: is year on year, hawks Bays down three point one, 961 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,879 Speaker 3: Auckland's down one point four, Northland down one point seven. 962 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 3: A Tigo for some reasons gone through the roof. I'm 963 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 3: assuming it's got something to do with the students returning 964 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 3: to town, because that's up five over the year. But 965 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,280 Speaker 3: around the rest of the country it seems remarkably flap 966 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,959 Speaker 3: twenty two to Away Politics Wednesday with Mark and Jenny 967 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 3: after eight o'clock for you this Wednesday morning. Meantime, this 968 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,800 Speaker 3: good news rolls on for our economy. We've just logged 969 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,360 Speaker 3: our largest monthly merchandise surplus since April of twenty eleven, 970 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,800 Speaker 3: we sold more than we bought by almost a billion dollars. 971 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 3: We sent seven and a half let's call it seven 972 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 3: point six billion dollars worth of product off sure in March, 973 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,720 Speaker 3: which made it the biggest month ever export. New Zealand 974 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,839 Speaker 3: executive director Josh ten is with us on all of this. Josh, 975 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 3: very good morning to you. 976 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:24,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, good morning, Mike. 977 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 16: Is there any. 978 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 3: Seasonality about this? Is something happening in March that's gone 979 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 3: a bit wonky? 980 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 20: No, Look, I think March has always been a pretty 981 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 20: strong year, so strong month for exports, so this is 982 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 20: to be expected. 983 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,800 Speaker 3: Okay, what about the week dollar? Is that driving a price? 984 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,319 Speaker 3: Is stronger dollar week or all of those combination of things. 985 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,120 Speaker 20: Yeah, Look, there's a few things in terms of why 986 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:50,400 Speaker 20: I think we've had such a strong record month in March. 987 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 20: So definitely the low New Zealand dollar is something that's 988 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 20: made our commodity exports more impealing. But then also you're 989 00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 20: looking at months on month, so that's March twenty five 990 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 20: compared to March twenty four, really strong global prices for 991 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 20: both milk and beef. But then on top of that, 992 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,840 Speaker 20: you've also got record crops in the horticulture sector. The 993 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 20: apples and pears industries recently announced that they've hit a 994 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,359 Speaker 20: billion dollars in revenue for the first time. You've also 995 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,080 Speaker 20: got zespri who are only just ramping up, but they've 996 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,319 Speaker 20: also talked about another bumper crop going out. 997 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 3: Is this all going to go now? The dollars back 998 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 3: up and the world is going into some sort of malaise. 999 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 20: Look, I think, you know, this positive news all comes 1000 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 20: with a bit of an asterisk, and that is obviously 1001 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,440 Speaker 20: the trade war that's currently growing between the US and 1002 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 20: the major trading partners. I think overwhelmingly, you know, economists 1003 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,840 Speaker 20: have a pretty dim view of how the overseas market's 1004 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 20: going to react to rolling tariff announcements. It's already shown 1005 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 20: up at the data. The trade war uncertainty has hit 1006 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 20: US consumer confidence, which is in the all time lows. 1007 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 20: Chinese consumer confidence isn't any better. Of course, also seen 1008 00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 20: this morning that the IMF has down greater global global 1009 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 20: growth expectations for the year and also for next year, 1010 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,759 Speaker 20: and also raises its odds on a US recession. So look, 1011 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:15,319 Speaker 20: you know, could this all have significant implications for New 1012 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 20: Zealand exporters. It remains to be seen. 1013 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 3: Okay, when we talk about the March numbers, though, exports 1014 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 3: to China up twenty three, twenty three percent of massive numbers. 1015 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 3: Is that material in the sense has something happened in China? 1016 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,280 Speaker 3: Or is this just once again a monthly and normally. 1017 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 20: Look, I think it goes back to those strong prices 1018 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 20: for New Zealand dairy, New Zealand meat, and also New 1019 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,320 Speaker 20: Zealand logs. But there's also record crop as I've mentioned, 1020 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 20: for our food growth as well, and I think that's 1021 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 20: where those numbers come from. 1022 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,400 Speaker 3: Okay, And the trade deficit was still running annually, a 1023 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 3: trade deficit. Do you ever see that ending? Do you 1024 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,399 Speaker 3: worry about that? Should we worry about that? I worry 1025 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 3: about that, but no one else seems to. 1026 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:50,799 Speaker 1: Look, it's a really good point. 1027 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 20: You know, all of these really positive numbers are on 1028 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,319 Speaker 20: the back of an annual six point one billion dollar 1029 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,240 Speaker 20: trade deficit. But look, that is down from the previous 1030 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 20: year's ten billion dollar trade deficit, and I think from 1031 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,320 Speaker 20: memory the year before that was about seventeen billion dollars. 1032 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:07,759 Speaker 20: So look, it doesn't mean that over the course of 1033 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 20: the New Zealand is still importing more goods than it exported. 1034 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 20: But that continues to be a downward trend and that's 1035 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,880 Speaker 20: a good thing here. That deficit continues scenario each year. 1036 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 3: All right, Josh, appreciate you time very much, johsh Tan 1037 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,319 Speaker 3: Export New Zealand Executive Director. So for now they are 1038 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,319 Speaker 3: very good numbers, nineteen minutes away from seven. But if 1039 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 3: you want a material example of where this is going wrong, 1040 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 3: specifically with America and companies from New Zealand that trade 1041 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 3: with America, Tourism Holdings was talking yesterday. They're the first 1042 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,560 Speaker 3: locally listed company to directly be impacted by all of 1043 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 3: this mess. Dramatic downturn and forward bookings by the US division. 1044 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:49,440 Speaker 3: So they are the world's largest commercial are the rental provider, right, 1045 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,760 Speaker 3: So they've got Maui, they got Brits, they got Apollo, 1046 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 3: they got Mighty, they got Hippie, heavily exposed to the 1047 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,360 Speaker 3: tourism cycles, extensibly involved in both the manufacturer and the 1048 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 3: resale of recreational vehicle. So it first became apparent to 1049 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 3: them from mid feb. Booking cancelations have escalated significantly in 1050 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 3: recent weeks, particularly from European customers. Their Ford bookings are 1051 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,640 Speaker 3: down between forty and fifty percent. Now, I've been reading 1052 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,239 Speaker 3: about places like Canada. They've taken it all personally in 1053 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,279 Speaker 3: Canada and no one's going on holiday in America from 1054 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,799 Speaker 3: Canada anymore. But the Europeans, a lot of the world 1055 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 3: is simply going. It's why would to bother? It's more 1056 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 3: trouble at the ball than that. It needs to be 1057 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:30,040 Speaker 3: so booking set, but forty to fifty percent reduction and 1058 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,880 Speaker 3: forward bookings. No company can survive that, can they? Eighteen 1059 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:33,360 Speaker 3: away from it? 1060 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:39,520 Speaker 2: The Vike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 1061 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:40,560 Speaker 2: by the News talks at be. 1062 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,319 Speaker 3: Just while we're on tourism Quickly the hotel data people 1063 00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,799 Speaker 3: for New Zealand room rates are up. In Queenstown christ 1064 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:49,799 Speaker 3: Dutch rode a Ruer. I was talking to somebody who's 1065 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,680 Speaker 3: in Taupo over the Easter period. They said the place 1066 00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 3: was pumping. You couldn't breathe, which is good. Queenstown, christ 1067 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 3: Dutch rote a Ruer room rates are up six and 1068 00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 3: a half percent, increased two hundred and thirty nine dollars 1069 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 3: on a for a room in Queenstown. Still cheap by 1070 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,040 Speaker 3: world stand it's two hundred and thirty nine dollars christ 1071 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:06,960 Speaker 3: Duet is up five percent three percent in rhad of 1072 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 3: vegas rates are down ten percent in Auckland Wellington. Auckland's 1073 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,439 Speaker 3: a bit unique because there's an increased supply. Next year's 1074 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,040 Speaker 3: opening of the convention center. Are they calling it next year? 1075 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:16,319 Speaker 16: Are they? 1076 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,839 Speaker 3: I'm bondizz you know, if it's in my lifetime, it'll 1077 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,279 Speaker 3: be like the Britado and Expressway. If I see the 1078 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 3: Convention Center open in Auckland, I'll be It'll be a miracle. 1079 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,960 Speaker 3: I've driven past that for the last however number of years, 1080 00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,279 Speaker 3: thinking I wonder if that's ever going to open. It's 1081 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 3: going to attract thirty three thousand new international visitors, which 1082 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,400 Speaker 3: will equate to one hundred and one thousand additional visitor. 1083 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:38,600 Speaker 3: Knights Wellington is a story all in itself. They're struggling 1084 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,479 Speaker 3: with a cut back to the government expenditure, of course, 1085 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:45,920 Speaker 3: so that's reasonably bullish for the tourism sector. Mike, I 1086 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 3: wasn't going to raise this, but I am now because 1087 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,600 Speaker 3: you've asked me, Mike this very personal question. Well it's 1088 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,759 Speaker 3: not actually, as it turns out, just wondering if your 1089 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,640 Speaker 3: Roman Catholic answer no. The reason I ask is your 1090 00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,520 Speaker 3: continued coverage of his decline has shown warmth and respect 1091 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 3: for many months, and from this Roman Catholic much appreciated. Well, 1092 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 3: its very nice of you to say. What I was 1093 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,600 Speaker 3: going to say about the Pope is I have formed 1094 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:11,600 Speaker 3: the opinion that the media have fallen into a setting 1095 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:15,400 Speaker 3: of default. In watching coverage both from here and internationally 1096 00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,920 Speaker 3: over the last forty eight hours, I've decided that the 1097 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,400 Speaker 3: passing of the Pope is being overcovered. And I was 1098 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,800 Speaker 3: standing there. I was watching a little bit of Anderson Cooper, 1099 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,000 Speaker 3: who was in London, not in Rome, but most of 1100 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,919 Speaker 3: the media is relocated to Rome in the last couple 1101 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,080 Speaker 3: of days, and I was listening to him talking about 1102 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,959 Speaker 3: an old man has died. An old man has died, 1103 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,160 Speaker 3: which is not a surprise in and of itself given 1104 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,320 Speaker 3: the medical record. Yes, he was the head of the 1105 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 3: Catholic Church, but no, he wasn't the head of the 1106 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,040 Speaker 3: Catholic Church for a particularly long period of time. My 1107 00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 3: summation is this, the passing of Queen Elizabeth changed our mindset, 1108 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:54,000 Speaker 3: whether consciously or subconsciously, forever, because she was the template. 1109 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 3: So when you serve for that length of time, that's different. 1110 00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,240 Speaker 3: And so if the IPE had been serving for seventy 1111 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,840 Speaker 3: or eighty years and had passed away, that would be major, 1112 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,359 Speaker 3: But a dozen years or so isn't major. And that's 1113 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,920 Speaker 3: before you get to the fact that there are one 1114 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 3: point five or one point six billion Catholics in the world, 1115 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:15,960 Speaker 3: which leaves six and a half billion who aren't Catholic. 1116 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,800 Speaker 3: So that's a lot of people who aren't particularly interested. 1117 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,960 Speaker 3: So certainly cover it. There's no problem with covering it, 1118 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,640 Speaker 3: and the passing of the head of the Roman Clatholic 1119 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,520 Speaker 3: Church is of note, of course, but to relocate the 1120 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 3: entire media to Rome scenes over coverage to me, it 1121 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,520 Speaker 3: also I found interesting last night in local media terms, 1122 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,160 Speaker 3: the amount of coverage they gave a story last night 1123 00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,719 Speaker 3: on the news on television which was twenty four hours old, 1124 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,719 Speaker 3: and it was because it happened at eight o'clock at 1125 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,640 Speaker 3: night or seven thirty at nine New Zealand time after 1126 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,960 Speaker 3: their last bulletin. They still find it necessary to repeat 1127 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,440 Speaker 3: every single thing we've seen throughout the day. And news 1128 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 3: is a moving cycle, it's a never ending story. And 1129 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,800 Speaker 3: still the television news at six o'clock at night in 1130 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,120 Speaker 3: this country have never quite got their head around that. 1131 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,279 Speaker 3: Really the world moved on, and by the time they've 1132 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,279 Speaker 3: sort of gathered all their resources together and presented a 1133 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,160 Speaker 3: very lengthy package of old news, we have sort of 1134 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,600 Speaker 3: over it and have other things to think about. But 1135 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:11,839 Speaker 3: I'll be interested in your view. 1136 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,640 Speaker 2: Ten away from a the Mike asking breakfast with Bailey's 1137 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,200 Speaker 2: real Estate Newstalk Zibby. 1138 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,239 Speaker 3: It is steven away from a new data around our 1139 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,919 Speaker 3: population and where it resides. Selwyn, as in christ Jurich, 1140 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,760 Speaker 3: is so hot right now, fastest growing area of the country. 1141 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 3: Around thirty two hundred people arrived in the year to June. 1142 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,600 Speaker 3: It's a three point nine percent increase. In the next decade, 1143 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,880 Speaker 3: that population could in fact get close to the size 1144 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:35,839 Speaker 3: of Dunedin. Messa University sociologist Paul Spinley back with us. Paul, 1145 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:36,560 Speaker 3: very good morning to you. 1146 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 24: Good morning mate. 1147 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,240 Speaker 3: How does this growth when you look at any given region, 1148 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,680 Speaker 3: when you get stats like this is growth by osmosis 1149 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,320 Speaker 3: or is it word in mouth or is it a 1150 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 3: marketing campaign or what is it? 1151 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,040 Speaker 24: No, it's none of those things. Really, It's about where 1152 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:56,120 Speaker 24: there is a growing economy and a growing desire to 1153 00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,440 Speaker 24: live in that place. So Queenstown Lakes is one of 1154 00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:02,240 Speaker 24: the top growing areas New Zealand, and that's a mixture 1155 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 24: of things tourism, hospitality and of course desirability, so a 1156 00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,880 Speaker 24: lot of people. It has a very high level of 1157 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,239 Speaker 24: second home ownership down there. People have a second home 1158 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,600 Speaker 24: in Queenstown, so it's a mix of those things. 1159 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:18,880 Speaker 3: Although it wouldn't be the same case in Selwyn, would it, 1160 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,040 Speaker 3: because you would move to Selwyn. I mean there's something 1161 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,880 Speaker 3: about the Canterbury region, isn't there. People speak well of 1162 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 3: christ Church and Canterbury. There's something going on there. 1163 00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 24: Yes there is. But the major thing that's growing both 1164 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 24: Selwyn and wei MAAKERI is the displacement that resulted as 1165 00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,480 Speaker 24: it was a result of the earthquake. So what we 1166 00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,160 Speaker 24: see is christ Church is growing back slowly, but the 1167 00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 24: adjac adjacent here is such as Selwyn have really been 1168 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,000 Speaker 24: a beneficiary of that. So five point one percent growth 1169 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,400 Speaker 24: per years just extraordinary, and of course it develops its 1170 00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 24: own momentum. It's sort of it's got the businesses, it's 1171 00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:59,800 Speaker 24: got the growth going on in terms of housing, and 1172 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:04,560 Speaker 24: it does fall behind in terms of services infrastructure. An 1173 00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:08,680 Speaker 24: interesting stat for you make is that of the twenty 1174 00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,319 Speaker 24: odd schools primary schools that have got more than seven 1175 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,840 Speaker 24: hundred students, five of them are in Selwyn. 1176 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,160 Speaker 3: Wow, so what do you do? Is there a formula 1177 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:18,400 Speaker 3: for any local authority? 1178 00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:18,560 Speaker 15: Go? 1179 00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,600 Speaker 3: Okay, so we've got some more people coming here. We 1180 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,800 Speaker 3: don't know how many more, whether the growth continues, but 1181 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,400 Speaker 3: at some point we need to pull the trigger on 1182 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,560 Speaker 3: a new library, a new bridge, some new footpath and 1183 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:27,120 Speaker 3: some pipes. 1184 00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,680 Speaker 24: No, And that's exactly the problem that Selwyn is now 1185 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:34,240 Speaker 24: facing on all of those things that's down in terms 1186 00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,320 Speaker 24: of services and infrastructure. A third of all people in 1187 00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:41,320 Speaker 24: Selwyn are registered to a GP practice outside Sellen because 1188 00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,240 Speaker 24: there's simply no capacity. And I think that's the issue 1189 00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,400 Speaker 24: make is that we don't do planning very well. And 1190 00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,240 Speaker 24: you notice that the locals say that the three year 1191 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,040 Speaker 24: electoral cycles just a nuisance in terms of planning for 1192 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:53,000 Speaker 24: twenty or thirty years. 1193 00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:54,520 Speaker 16: This year. 1194 00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:58,720 Speaker 24: The plans ten years ago were that Selwyn would be 1195 00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:02,280 Speaker 24: around sixty seventh It is at eighty four thousand, so 1196 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:06,920 Speaker 24: it's well out in terms of planning and projections. And 1197 00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:10,720 Speaker 24: I really think this country needs to think about our 1198 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,280 Speaker 24: regional policies and why we would keep people in some 1199 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,840 Speaker 24: parts of the country rather than see them leave and 1200 00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,600 Speaker 24: then in other parts of the country, do we need 1201 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:25,680 Speaker 24: to reduce the population growth? Can I quickly add that 1202 00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,120 Speaker 24: Selwyn's growing at five point one percent per year, Peppercru 1203 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,640 Speaker 24: is growing at five percent per year and that's from 1204 00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:36,480 Speaker 24: international migration. In terms of Selwyn, it's from internal migration. 1205 00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:38,960 Speaker 3: Interesting Do you think we'll ever crack that particular nut, 1206 00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,480 Speaker 3: because I mean we've been talking about it forever, going well, 1207 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,520 Speaker 3: you can go over there and you should move there 1208 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 3: and we'll redistribute everyone nicely. It's never going to happen, 1209 00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:46,200 Speaker 3: is it. 1210 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:47,680 Speaker 4: No, it's not. 1211 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,200 Speaker 24: And what we're forecasting is that within a couple of 1212 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 24: decades three quarters of New Zealand's population will live in 1213 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,000 Speaker 24: the top half of the North Island and forty percent 1214 00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:56,840 Speaker 24: will be in Auckland. 1215 00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:57,880 Speaker 15: Is that what we want? 1216 00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:58,000 Speaker 16: Now? 1217 00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,560 Speaker 3: It's crazy, it's crazy. But it's not going to stop though, 1218 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,760 Speaker 3: is at Paul, listen, I gotta we'll get you back 1219 00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,720 Speaker 3: on another time talk more about appreciate it very much. 1220 00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:09,320 Speaker 3: Paul Spoonley, who's the massive university sociologists four minutes away 1221 00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,280 Speaker 3: from eight osco I, had another debate last night between 1222 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,840 Speaker 3: Dutton and Elbanezi. Will get Steve Price on after eight 1223 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,760 Speaker 3: thirty about this. From my reading, the first two were 1224 00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,800 Speaker 3: snore fests. This one turned up on Channel nine commercial. 1225 00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,800 Speaker 3: First one was behind a paywooll on Sky, second one 1226 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,680 Speaker 3: was the ABC snore Fest, and the third one was 1227 00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,400 Speaker 3: on Channel nine. It looked like because they limited they 1228 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,560 Speaker 3: did a format and they limited answers to sixty seconds, 1229 00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:38,200 Speaker 3: and there was an increased tension and fissant in the 1230 00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,280 Speaker 3: air and they went at each other a little bit. 1231 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,200 Speaker 3: And from what I can gather, if you didn't think 1232 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:47,080 Speaker 3: it was a draw, your thought maybe Dutton got up 1233 00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,880 Speaker 3: and won. So there might be a sense that maybe 1234 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,360 Speaker 3: his campaign might have been helped. And boy doesn't need 1235 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,840 Speaker 3: help him because there's not a poll out there that 1236 00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,080 Speaker 3: has n't winning this election. But as I say, Steve 1237 00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:58,600 Speaker 3: Price will have been watching and he'll give us his 1238 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,600 Speaker 3: summation after eight thirty this morning. But we have got 1239 01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:03,800 Speaker 3: to do politics Wednesday first with Ginny and Mike, and 1240 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:05,919 Speaker 3: we'll do that directly after the News, which is next 1241 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,240 Speaker 3: here at News Talks Big on the Mike Hosking. 1242 01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:14,240 Speaker 2: Brest the News and the newsmakers the Mic Hosking Breakfast 1243 01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:18,680 Speaker 2: with Bailey's Real Estate, Your local experts across residential, commercial 1244 01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:20,000 Speaker 2: and rural news talks. 1245 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:20,320 Speaker 19: He'd be. 1246 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:31,280 Speaker 10: I'm ren. 1247 01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:36,240 Speaker 18: Is I dream beer n de scolgett, I'm rambling. 1248 01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:38,520 Speaker 19: I cannot be. 1249 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:39,480 Speaker 1: On the roll. 1250 01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:44,160 Speaker 21: My beelivest Charles that be, I've said the lights. 1251 01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,440 Speaker 3: Wrong and I'm so strong. The forthcoming Morgan Wallen album. 1252 01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:51,560 Speaker 3: This is Morgan and Post Post have been together before 1253 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,240 Speaker 3: Post Malone and it was a smash hit and so 1254 01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,720 Speaker 3: they've gone again. And this has got this signed disco 1255 01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:58,600 Speaker 3: music with country woods. Isn't it. 1256 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:07,240 Speaker 1: Even I turned into it. It's got event in my night. 1257 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,000 Speaker 3: I've got thirty something tracks and I've told you before 1258 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:14,720 Speaker 3: the album is coming. I Ain't coming back is the song. 1259 01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:20,080 Speaker 3: The whole album comes out May sixteen. I'll be getting it, 1260 01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:23,480 Speaker 3: I'll be playing it, and we are working the research 1261 01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,680 Speaker 3: department is currently working on getting Morgan Wallen back on 1262 01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:27,440 Speaker 3: the program. It is eight minutes past day time for 1263 01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,280 Speaker 3: Politics Wednesday. Ginny Anderson, Mark Mitchell with us. Good morning 1264 01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:30,800 Speaker 3: to both of you. 1265 01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:33,320 Speaker 16: Morning Mike, wanting Jinny. 1266 01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:34,520 Speaker 25: Morning to you both. 1267 01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,800 Speaker 3: Ginny, hand on heart and I'm not trying to single 1268 01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,320 Speaker 3: you out as an individual who might be slacking around 1269 01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,080 Speaker 3: at the moment. But what do you do when the 1270 01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,120 Speaker 3: house isn't sitting, when you're in opposition and you're a 1271 01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:49,680 Speaker 3: list MP, I mean honestly, So so far, I've. 1272 01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,880 Speaker 25: Gone and visited the construction site at Auckland Airport, looked 1273 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,600 Speaker 25: at the new belt on domestic and the jobs and 1274 01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,200 Speaker 25: skills have there and seeing how that's been going. I 1275 01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,320 Speaker 25: visited toad on it and looked at zeesp for the 1276 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,960 Speaker 25: day and looked at how goalkeep you through to tracking 1277 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:06,840 Speaker 25: what jobs going, what their labor needs are. Yesterday I 1278 01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:11,440 Speaker 25: went and saw the UN video game how the Rebate's going? 1279 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,080 Speaker 25: So pick pop video. They got the forty million government 1280 01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,800 Speaker 25: under labor rebate and their growth and need jobs as 1281 01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:21,000 Speaker 25: a result of that increase we delivered last budget. 1282 01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:22,200 Speaker 3: Superb answer they should be. 1283 01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,600 Speaker 25: Getting over six seven hundred million. And I saw the 1284 01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,480 Speaker 25: city mission and the increase of meeting Fittamine and also 1285 01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:29,800 Speaker 25: homelessness on the streets. 1286 01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,040 Speaker 3: So very good answer. How much of that is driven 1287 01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,080 Speaker 3: by you? So in other word, you go right, got 1288 01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,200 Speaker 3: a recess. Here's what I'm going to do with my time. 1289 01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:39,400 Speaker 24: A bit of both. 1290 01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,400 Speaker 25: Yeah, that people will help me plan out things I 1291 01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,640 Speaker 25: wouldn't plan that level of detail without the help of 1292 01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,520 Speaker 25: the Labor Leader's office, so they definitely helped book me 1293 01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,560 Speaker 25: in my own EA helps put me in, but I 1294 01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,640 Speaker 25: will also have an idea of some areas that I 1295 01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:52,760 Speaker 25: want to grow my understanding of where the economy is 1296 01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,760 Speaker 25: working and not working and what kind of information I need. 1297 01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:59,040 Speaker 25: And I personally really enjoy getting up close meeting people 1298 01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,720 Speaker 25: working on construction working in those areas, understanding what the 1299 01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:05,160 Speaker 25: pressures on the economy are and how we can we 1300 01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,080 Speaker 25: better in New Zealand's really good for that. You can 1301 01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,280 Speaker 25: get and ask some questions and find out some really 1302 01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,320 Speaker 25: good information and it's part of the job that I 1303 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:11,760 Speaker 25: really love. 1304 01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:15,919 Speaker 3: Good Have you been busy, Mark Not the last couple 1305 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:16,200 Speaker 3: of days. 1306 01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,560 Speaker 21: I've been really busy in a very remote location in 1307 01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:23,120 Speaker 21: northern Balley trying to spear Mahi Mahi of his fear fishing. 1308 01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,600 Speaker 21: But I have to say I did delay my trip 1309 01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:28,400 Speaker 21: by four days because we had the weather bomb come 1310 01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,760 Speaker 21: through and that keet me pretty busy. But look, I 1311 01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,720 Speaker 21: think it's great that Ginny's have been looking and checking 1312 01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,720 Speaker 21: out Number one. You know, obviously they've we've come through 1313 01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,320 Speaker 21: a very difficult time as the country. But there's a 1314 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,120 Speaker 21: lot of great stuff hppen yet there and I think 1315 01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:43,120 Speaker 21: we're definitely. 1316 01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:43,439 Speaker 16: On the right track. 1317 01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,480 Speaker 3: Are you up in Balley at the moment? Yes, I 1318 01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,360 Speaker 3: am past four in the morning. 1319 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:49,680 Speaker 16: Yes it is. 1320 01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,320 Speaker 21: And I had to I had to find somewhere that 1321 01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,640 Speaker 21: I could get coverage on my phone because, like I said, 1322 01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:56,560 Speaker 21: I'm not in the tourist herea, I'm in a very 1323 01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,680 Speaker 21: remote area a million miles from nowhere. 1324 01:03:59,280 --> 01:03:59,840 Speaker 3: You're catching you. 1325 01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:07,440 Speaker 16: You can ask me that, like you'd make a billion excuses. 1326 01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,080 Speaker 16: The reality is noish. 1327 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,600 Speaker 3: So you've gone all the way to Asia to fish 1328 01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:13,680 Speaker 3: and you just want no fish. 1329 01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,200 Speaker 21: Yeah, but look for me, it's getting in the water 1330 01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,080 Speaker 21: and there's no phones and you can just disconnect and 1331 01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:21,640 Speaker 21: and I just yet and it's just a beautiful part 1332 01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:22,040 Speaker 21: of the world. 1333 01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:24,120 Speaker 16: Some of the best spear fishing in the world. And 1334 01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:25,760 Speaker 16: so you know, it's my couple of days. 1335 01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:27,240 Speaker 3: Some of the best spear fishing in the world. It's 1336 01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:28,360 Speaker 3: just you haven't quite. 1337 01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:33,360 Speaker 16: I just haven't quite been able to get well myself yet. 1338 01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:36,960 Speaker 3: Okay, Hey, Jenny Hipkins is calling for the Mallory pay 1339 01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:38,760 Speaker 3: is it today? The Privileges Committee? 1340 01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,080 Speaker 25: I don't know, to be honest, he's calling on them to. 1341 01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,960 Speaker 3: Turn up today. I thought everyone was the Privileges Committee 1342 01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:46,400 Speaker 3: will meet when the parliament's not sitting. 1343 01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,920 Speaker 25: A can do A can do it. It can determine 1344 01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,000 Speaker 25: its own program. But to be honest, I've been out 1345 01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,160 Speaker 25: and about. I haven't been in the precinct, so I 1346 01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:55,440 Speaker 25: don't know when they're due to appear. 1347 01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,360 Speaker 1: Should they appear, Yeah, they. 1348 01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,680 Speaker 25: Should, and it's a good But they've also I think 1349 01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,640 Speaker 25: from what I understand is they've also asked to have 1350 01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:07,040 Speaker 25: support people in a peer and I think I agree 1351 01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,720 Speaker 25: with the view that if tea kunga is going to 1352 01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,400 Speaker 25: be used in Parliament, there needs to be a discussion 1353 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,000 Speaker 25: around that. So I think it's probably quite a worth 1354 01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,720 Speaker 25: while discussion, not just for their specific case, but for 1355 01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:17,760 Speaker 25: us going forward as well. 1356 01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:19,600 Speaker 3: Do you get to make up would anybody else get 1357 01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:21,040 Speaker 3: to make up the rules and go? Look, I've been 1358 01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:23,240 Speaker 3: called to the Privilege Committee, but I'm not really turning up. 1359 01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,120 Speaker 3: I'm inventing my own rules and I won't turn up 1360 01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:26,360 Speaker 3: and I'll turn up when I want to. And as 1361 01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,760 Speaker 3: long as this person can done, does anybody else get 1362 01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:30,160 Speaker 3: to get away with that sort of behavior? 1363 01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,640 Speaker 25: Well, people get asked how they want to appear where 1364 01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,440 Speaker 25: they want to support people with them, what time so 1365 01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,480 Speaker 25: that people do get asked in terms of that sort 1366 01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,919 Speaker 25: of level. But to be honest, not before I haven't 1367 01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,960 Speaker 25: seen before this kind of dancing around about when or 1368 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,200 Speaker 25: not I'll appear, So that has been a bit different. 1369 01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:48,920 Speaker 3: I'm saying, all right, let's take a brief break. We'll 1370 01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,400 Speaker 3: come back in the moment. Mike Minchell, Ginny Anderson thirteen Past. 1371 01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:55,680 Speaker 2: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on I heard 1372 01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,640 Speaker 2: Radio coward by news Talks. 1373 01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,240 Speaker 3: It be news Talks have been called a past Kaniy 1374 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,320 Speaker 3: Anderson and Mark Mitchellweathers. Mark, despite the fact you're in 1375 01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,640 Speaker 3: Balley looking to spear fish. The New Zealand first to 1376 01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:07,840 Speaker 3: put in a member's bill defining a woman comes out 1377 01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,160 Speaker 3: of that British decision at the Supreme Court last week. 1378 01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:15,200 Speaker 3: As a local MP is defining a woman those sort 1379 01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:18,200 Speaker 3: of issues. Does that occupy people's mind or is this 1380 01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:22,280 Speaker 3: just one of these niche issues that the small group 1381 01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,560 Speaker 3: of people get particularly exercised about. 1382 01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,080 Speaker 16: So, as a locally pee for me and my electorate, 1383 01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:29,240 Speaker 16: this hasn't been brought forward. 1384 01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:31,040 Speaker 21: Is an issue that I've had to deal on an 1385 01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:34,360 Speaker 21: individual basis or an issue that's been bought Ford, isn't 1386 01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:35,520 Speaker 21: it for my electorate? 1387 01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:36,280 Speaker 16: However? 1388 01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:40,320 Speaker 21: You know, obviously New Zion First feel strongly about this 1389 01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,640 Speaker 21: and have bought a bill Ford, and that's entirely up 1390 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:43,920 Speaker 21: to them. 1391 01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,280 Speaker 3: If it was a conscience boat, how would you vote? 1392 01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:49,400 Speaker 16: I'd have to see the bill. 1393 01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,560 Speaker 21: It's really hard to even comment on it unless you've 1394 01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:53,919 Speaker 21: actually seen wat's in the bill. 1395 01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:55,360 Speaker 3: Is there an issue, Ginny? 1396 01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,440 Speaker 25: I think there are bigger issues out there right now. 1397 01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,120 Speaker 25: I do think it's a distraction. And it seems weird 1398 01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:05,120 Speaker 25: that they had a bill about bathrooms and they've taken 1399 01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,400 Speaker 25: that out updated it with this one. It seems like 1400 01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:09,760 Speaker 25: it's the same thing but another I just I. 1401 01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,440 Speaker 3: Mean, look, I actually support what the Supreme Court in 1402 01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:15,120 Speaker 3: Britain said, But having said that, I just don't know 1403 01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:19,320 Speaker 3: how exercise people are on any given day about something 1404 01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:19,640 Speaker 3: like this. 1405 01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:23,280 Speaker 25: People are more worried about paying their bills and buying 1406 01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:26,960 Speaker 25: food and paying rental mortgage than than doing this this. 1407 01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:30,480 Speaker 25: Would it be some people are, but you know the 1408 01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:32,240 Speaker 25: majority of people I deal with are not concerned. 1409 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,680 Speaker 3: Would you would it be a conscience vote? 1410 01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,680 Speaker 1: Do you expect no conscience votes? 1411 01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:42,320 Speaker 25: You just usually things like like alcohol is always things 1412 01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:46,160 Speaker 25: like abortion or ethan agia are But I think it's 1413 01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:50,960 Speaker 25: a determination by the by the clerk, and that in 1414 01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:52,880 Speaker 25: terms of whether it falls in as a conscience photo 1415 01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:54,880 Speaker 25: or not. And parties can choose whether they think it 1416 01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,800 Speaker 25: is a part conscience vote or not. But that determination 1417 01:07:57,960 --> 01:07:59,920 Speaker 25: sometimes is not an easy one to make. 1418 01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,120 Speaker 21: Yeah, so there are conventions around what normally does fall 1419 01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:06,480 Speaker 21: inside of a conscience vote. However, caucuses have got the 1420 01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:09,840 Speaker 21: ability to decide themselves whether they want to treat the 1421 01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:11,040 Speaker 21: voters a conscious vote. 1422 01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:14,920 Speaker 3: Would you vote Mark on Easter if they went to 1423 01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,559 Speaker 3: change Easter? I tried to avoid it because it's so boring, 1424 01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,680 Speaker 3: But nevertheless, if they well, I mean, you know it's 1425 01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:25,799 Speaker 3: every year and on Sunday. How would you vote Sunday 1426 01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:27,120 Speaker 3: if you voted on it tomorrow? 1427 01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,160 Speaker 21: Well, I mean Kieren mechanoltys spills going through the house 1428 01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:34,000 Speaker 21: at the moment, and at the first reading I voted 1429 01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:40,679 Speaker 21: to support that, Yeah, only because I do like people 1430 01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:42,439 Speaker 21: having you know, I do like the idea of people 1431 01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:44,599 Speaker 21: having their own choice in terms of what they want 1432 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:44,720 Speaker 21: to do. 1433 01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,320 Speaker 3: And so what what where would you vote? Jenny? 1434 01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:50,360 Speaker 25: I think it needs a tidy up. You know you 1435 01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:52,320 Speaker 25: do say, you know, you've got to different places and 1436 01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:52,840 Speaker 25: people are. 1437 01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:54,559 Speaker 3: Paying it's insane. The whole thing's in sorry. 1438 01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:57,240 Speaker 25: Charges and it just seems weird and they're not you know. 1439 01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,920 Speaker 25: So I think it probably needs a sort of party 1440 01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,240 Speaker 25: consensus across the board that it needs to tidy up. 1441 01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:04,240 Speaker 25: Here are the broad parameters, and we should just do 1442 01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:06,640 Speaker 25: it as an agreement. Because that's the thing about my 1443 01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:07,400 Speaker 25: body's interest. 1444 01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:09,519 Speaker 3: Sure, that's the thing about conscience, vans, isn't it. Mark 1445 01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:13,360 Speaker 3: what you vote on. Conscience is not necessarily why you're 1446 01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:16,639 Speaker 3: in parliament or who put you in parliament. So which 1447 01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:18,760 Speaker 3: way your favor? As an electorate MP? Do you go 1448 01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:20,799 Speaker 3: to the electorate or do you go to your own conscience? 1449 01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:24,280 Speaker 21: So I go to the electorate and there's no right 1450 01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,439 Speaker 21: or wrong answer, but I just feel strong in myself 1451 01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:28,320 Speaker 21: that my electorate have voted me in to be their 1452 01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:32,240 Speaker 21: representative in Parliament, and so I always go to a 1453 01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:35,200 Speaker 21: majority view, and I'll do public meetings, I'll do surveys 1454 01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,000 Speaker 21: and I'll do I'll have a ballot bots and own 1455 01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,320 Speaker 21: office that people can come in they can show that 1456 01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:42,160 Speaker 21: they are the electric and vote on it. Other MPs 1457 01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,839 Speaker 21: take the view that they've been voted in by the electorates, 1458 01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:48,000 Speaker 21: so they're trusting them with that conscience vote. There's no 1459 01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:48,639 Speaker 21: right or wrong. 1460 01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:50,880 Speaker 3: I just go off what my electriate wants and what 1461 01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,080 Speaker 3: about you, Jinny, I'd. 1462 01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,519 Speaker 25: Probably do a bit of both. There's always good engagement 1463 01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,720 Speaker 25: on things like social media and your public meetings or 1464 01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:00,719 Speaker 25: like I go to the market every couple of weeks 1465 01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:02,200 Speaker 25: and people will tell me what they think, so that 1466 01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:04,599 Speaker 25: gives you a good gauge or when where people are 1467 01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:06,840 Speaker 25: at and you sort of weigh up those views along 1468 01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,439 Speaker 25: with your own and think, you know, what's the best outcome. 1469 01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:12,640 Speaker 25: So yeah, on those ones, it's and it's interesting too 1470 01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,640 Speaker 25: because these sort of and the way it's voted with 1471 01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:19,400 Speaker 25: things like abortion in euthanasia as it's often the Christian 1472 01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:22,360 Speaker 25: members on both sides who vote against, and then it's 1473 01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,759 Speaker 25: small liberal ones on both sides, and her Labor National 1474 01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:25,680 Speaker 25: voting the same on. 1475 01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:26,400 Speaker 24: Some of those issues. 1476 01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:29,479 Speaker 25: In Labor National her are more you know, fundamentalists in 1477 01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:31,080 Speaker 25: their in their views voting the same way. 1478 01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:32,799 Speaker 3: Do you find normal people out in the markets. 1479 01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,360 Speaker 25: You do get a whole range of people there, but 1480 01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:39,639 Speaker 25: the Riverbank markets and the Heart are outstanding for cheap 1481 01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:42,840 Speaker 25: veggies and really good takeaway food as well. I have 1482 01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:47,040 Speaker 25: a special favorite to ask Mike. My daughter Eliza is 1483 01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:50,040 Speaker 25: eleven today and she's listening on the radio in the kitchen, 1484 01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:52,479 Speaker 25: and she asked me if I would ask the man 1485 01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:56,240 Speaker 25: with the magic DJ boye if he would say happy birthday, Eliza. 1486 01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:03,840 Speaker 3: So hand on heart did she use Did she use 1487 01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,639 Speaker 3: the words magic j boys? 1488 01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:09,000 Speaker 15: She did not? 1489 01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:11,640 Speaker 25: Might have like ed in the hope of getting it. 1490 01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:15,759 Speaker 3: Well, Eli, Eliza, I wish you a very very happy birthday, 1491 01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:18,600 Speaker 3: and I hope Mama's got you the greatest gift of 1492 01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,120 Speaker 3: all time and that you're happy with it and this 1493 01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,280 Speaker 3: cake and this celebration and you're still too young for 1494 01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:25,600 Speaker 3: a boyfriend. How does that go? 1495 01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:29,559 Speaker 16: Happy birthday, Eliza? 1496 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:30,160 Speaker 10: Not at all? 1497 01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:30,439 Speaker 15: Mark. 1498 01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,519 Speaker 3: Was the plane fall going up or not? Tourism question? 1499 01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:35,639 Speaker 16: Yeah, it was, it was. It was, It was pet 1500 01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:37,080 Speaker 16: it was it was very full. 1501 01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:39,080 Speaker 3: Could you see all the way to the back of 1502 01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:40,000 Speaker 3: the plane from where you were? 1503 01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:46,360 Speaker 16: Well, I was lucky, I admit I was flying premium economy. 1504 01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:47,120 Speaker 1: It was very nice. 1505 01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:50,840 Speaker 16: Well, I did give up my seat for someone she. 1506 01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,600 Speaker 21: Was very anxious, and yes, because they were sitting in 1507 01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:55,360 Speaker 21: the middle and they were very anxious about sitting in 1508 01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:57,599 Speaker 21: the middle, and they asked if if they could swap 1509 01:11:57,680 --> 01:11:59,560 Speaker 21: seats with me because I wasn't and I was on 1510 01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:01,400 Speaker 21: the out side, and I said, you of course, there 1511 01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:01,640 Speaker 21: you go. 1512 01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:03,200 Speaker 16: So we so we swap seats. 1513 01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:05,439 Speaker 3: Well that's a that's a nice thing to mind you. 1514 01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:07,599 Speaker 3: If you hadn't done it, someone would have social media 1515 01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:09,720 Speaker 3: in it and they would have done it. Met youll 1516 01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:11,720 Speaker 3: refuses to give up seat that would have been in 1517 01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:12,879 Speaker 3: the Herald on Sunday. 1518 01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:16,599 Speaker 25: I try to stay like it from economy into business 1519 01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:17,799 Speaker 25: by saying I feel really anxious. 1520 01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,120 Speaker 3: Did you just just go up and say I'm so anxious? 1521 01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:20,840 Speaker 3: Somebody helped me. 1522 01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:22,320 Speaker 1: What are you doing? 1523 01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:25,479 Speaker 3: What are you doing for Eliza? By the way today, Jenny, 1524 01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:26,040 Speaker 3: what are we doing? 1525 01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:29,960 Speaker 25: I met my mum and dad's out in we Stalkland, 1526 01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:33,080 Speaker 25: so we're having a poplanent lunch at Peter at the beach. 1527 01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:34,960 Speaker 3: There you gouse a nice day for it too, beautiful 1528 01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:38,320 Speaker 3: blue sky, beautiful all right for you two joint and 1529 01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:40,560 Speaker 3: mark you on holiday the entire time. We're going to 1530 01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:43,920 Speaker 3: see you in tile and Balley next week or no, no, no, I'm. 1531 01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,120 Speaker 21: Beck I'm becking. A couple of days. So yeah, it 1532 01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:48,240 Speaker 21: was a very it was. It was a shortened visit, 1533 01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:49,720 Speaker 21: but I'm loving it. 1534 01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:50,360 Speaker 16: I'm with Sierra. 1535 01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:54,160 Speaker 21: We're a remote path Balley absolutely stunning, good and good 1536 01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:55,639 Speaker 21: way to reach out to picture excellent. 1537 01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:57,960 Speaker 3: All right, well whilst send my usual Judy free list 1538 01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:03,479 Speaker 3: and you can take care of that, say twenty. 1539 01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:08,120 Speaker 2: Two the Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Veda Retirement Communities 1540 01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:09,080 Speaker 2: News togs headv. 1541 01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,000 Speaker 3: Now, whether it's orting an uber or managing finances from 1542 01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:14,840 Speaker 3: an app, we all love the convenience of the instant 1543 01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,360 Speaker 3: digital self service. 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So switched Telco, save time, get to business. 1556 01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:53,840 Speaker 3: So two degrees dot end z forward slash business. 1557 01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:54,120 Speaker 4: Got it. 1558 01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:58,280 Speaker 3: Write it down two degrees dot end z forward slash 1559 01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:04,320 Speaker 3: business to find out more terms and conditions apply, Asking Mike, 1560 01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:06,200 Speaker 3: I think the fact that Mark calls him whilst he's 1561 01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,040 Speaker 3: on holiday and Bali just shows you the kind of man. 1562 01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:08,320 Speaker 15: He is. 1563 01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:09,960 Speaker 3: Never a break for them. No, it's a fair point. 1564 01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:13,840 Speaker 3: He's never broken Stephen Joyce's record. He's missed two in 1565 01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:15,560 Speaker 3: the time he's been on the program. One was not 1566 01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:17,719 Speaker 3: his fault because it was a singular flight out of Dubai. 1567 01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:19,320 Speaker 3: He was on it, couldn't do anything about it, so 1568 01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:21,479 Speaker 3: he missed, so we forgave him that one. One he forgot, 1569 01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:24,800 Speaker 3: So he's won down on Stephen. Stephen never missed a 1570 01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:28,280 Speaker 3: single one, and he was being the Minister of everything. 1571 01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,080 Speaker 3: He was all over the world and he called Informasia 1572 01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:33,479 Speaker 3: a number of times. But I admire Mark's dedication and 1573 01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:37,200 Speaker 3: work ethink. But what I also like is Eliza's birthday 1574 01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,000 Speaker 3: with the grandparents. There's something wonderfully, you know, in a 1575 01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,479 Speaker 3: world where kids are nothing but trouble and blue sniffing 1576 01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:47,519 Speaker 3: and ram raiding little snots. There's something wonderfully reassuring to 1577 01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:49,120 Speaker 3: know there are still kids out there and they are 1578 01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:52,000 Speaker 3: think the Good Lord. The majority that for the eleventh 1579 01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:54,439 Speaker 3: birthday the game for a picnic with their grandparents to 1580 01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:57,240 Speaker 3: a beach, and that to me is New Zealand the 1581 01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,240 Speaker 3: way it should be. So it was wonderful to hear that, 1582 01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:01,680 Speaker 3: and I from the family have a wonderful, wonderful day 1583 01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:05,280 Speaker 3: us In a couple of moments the election campaign debate 1584 01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:07,160 Speaker 3: last night, how did it go? Steve Price? 1585 01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:07,479 Speaker 17: Next? 1586 01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,600 Speaker 2: The only report you need to start your day on 1587 01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:16,320 Speaker 2: my casking breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities, Life your 1588 01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:17,559 Speaker 2: Way News, Togs had. 1589 01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:19,839 Speaker 3: Best'll tell you what Elon's had better days, they reported 1590 01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:22,360 Speaker 3: after the bell. So it'll be interesting to see how 1591 01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:25,200 Speaker 3: it's received tomorrow on the market. But Tesla is in 1592 01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:28,880 Speaker 3: a world of pain. This is for the first quarter 1593 01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,880 Speaker 3: deliveries to client thirteen percent, overall net in come down 1594 01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:35,760 Speaker 3: seventy one percent. Earnings per cheer came in at twenty 1595 01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:39,200 Speaker 3: seven cents. They thought it'd be forty one. Double digit 1596 01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:43,240 Speaker 3: percentage drops in the US and China and Germany nineteen 1597 01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:45,320 Speaker 3: point three billion in revenue for the quarter, which is 1598 01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:48,160 Speaker 3: down nine percent. Revenue from the company's automotive business fell 1599 01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:50,920 Speaker 3: twenty The interesting thing is the energy business grew sixty 1600 01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,120 Speaker 3: seven percent. They also get a lot of money from 1601 01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:55,679 Speaker 3: other companies who can't meet their un climate targets. Of course, 1602 01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:59,120 Speaker 3: in California, which is the largest EV market in America, 1603 01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:03,120 Speaker 3: could sheer fell to forty four percent from fifty six percent, 1604 01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:06,240 Speaker 3: so they're tanking. Shipments are down twenty two percent for 1605 01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:10,160 Speaker 3: the quarter in China, they're down sixty two percent in Germany. 1606 01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:14,240 Speaker 3: So I don't know what they do about it, because 1607 01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:18,040 Speaker 3: it's not just tariffs, it's it's him and its image 1608 01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:21,200 Speaker 3: and its reputation as well. Meantime, across the Tasman, here's 1609 01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:22,519 Speaker 3: what last night sounded like. 1610 01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:26,960 Speaker 26: Location that had been previously put in the budget prior 1611 01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:30,000 Speaker 26: to your coming into office. You ripped eighty billion dollars 1612 01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:32,720 Speaker 26: out of those two items in two thousand and four. 1613 01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,960 Speaker 3: Minister, you couldn't slice straight in bed. Honestly, this is unbelievable. 1614 01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:39,320 Speaker 26: It can go to abuse. Well, it's just the abuse 1615 01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:42,880 Speaker 26: that's a sign of desperation. Frankly as he's lying, well, 1616 01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:44,720 Speaker 26: that's a sign of desperation. 1617 01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:49,479 Speaker 2: International correspondence with endsit Eye Insurance, peace of mind for 1618 01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:50,400 Speaker 2: New Zealand business. 1619 01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:52,599 Speaker 3: And then the thirty three price was watching money mate. 1620 01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,680 Speaker 3: You know that all the three and you will have 1621 01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:58,960 Speaker 3: seen them all. Was that the better of the three? 1622 01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:04,880 Speaker 4: It was the most brutal of the three. I've got 1623 01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:07,800 Speaker 4: to say that. I mean Debate one with people in 1624 01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:11,160 Speaker 4: the audience asking questions on Sky, Debate two is on 1625 01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:14,080 Speaker 4: the ABC. That's always going to be pretty tame, and 1626 01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:17,599 Speaker 4: the format last night was that they had sixty seconds 1627 01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:20,720 Speaker 4: to answer a question. They had three people from the 1628 01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:24,799 Speaker 4: nine network sitting on a panel. I thought, lye straighten, 1629 01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:30,760 Speaker 4: their comment probably was un He shouldn't have said it. 1630 01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:33,720 Speaker 4: He doesn't need to resort to personal abuse. I mean, 1631 01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:37,600 Speaker 4: this election has been a disaster from the beginning for 1632 01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:40,479 Speaker 4: Peter Dutton and he has to pull something out of 1633 01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:43,080 Speaker 4: the woodwork to try and get himself back in the game. Now, 1634 01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:46,200 Speaker 4: insulting the Prime Minister, regardless of what you think of him, 1635 01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:48,679 Speaker 4: is probably not a good thing. We'll see what people 1636 01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:52,519 Speaker 4: make of it today. But I thought Anthony Albanezi looked 1637 01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:55,879 Speaker 4: nervous and if it's shifty and he never looks comfortable. 1638 01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:58,120 Speaker 4: He's got a glass to or and hates being abused. 1639 01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:01,200 Speaker 4: In the Dutton he is desperate and needs to get 1640 01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:04,600 Speaker 4: back some of the votes that he's lost already. Prepolling 1641 01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:09,479 Speaker 4: started yesterday. Queues at pre polling stations around Australia were massive. 1642 01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:12,639 Speaker 4: Now you know, normally we would all in the past 1643 01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:15,040 Speaker 4: turn out on election day on May three and vote. 1644 01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:18,360 Speaker 4: Now everybody's seeking out a pre elect prepole place to 1645 01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:20,840 Speaker 4: go and say, oh, well, I can't vote on voting day, 1646 01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:22,760 Speaker 4: so I want to vote now. How that means they've 1647 01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:25,799 Speaker 4: made up their mind and that's dangerous for the coalition 1648 01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:28,840 Speaker 4: because Peter Dutton will today now so that he's going 1649 01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:32,160 Speaker 4: to spend twenty one billion dollars on defense over the 1650 01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:35,360 Speaker 4: next five years. He'll take our percentage of GDP on 1651 01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:40,240 Speaker 4: defense spending up to two point three to five percent, sorry, 1652 01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:43,360 Speaker 4: two point five percent, ahead of what Labour's spending, but 1653 01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:46,720 Speaker 4: below what Donald Trump wants. So what that means is 1654 01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:48,439 Speaker 4: a lot of people have already made up their mind. Now, 1655 01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:50,120 Speaker 4: if they've made up their mind, that's not good use 1656 01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:50,679 Speaker 4: for the coalition. 1657 01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:54,160 Speaker 3: No, indeed not so they reckon as many as half 1658 01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:58,040 Speaker 3: the people have. So you're chasing in ever diminishing return, 1659 01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:00,200 Speaker 3: aren't you. You're chasing the people who haven't voted, which 1660 01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:03,360 Speaker 3: is fifty percent of the electorate and so totally interesting. 1661 01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:06,759 Speaker 3: That defends money you speak of, Is that an election issue? 1662 01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:08,519 Speaker 3: I mean, is that going to swing a vote? If 1663 01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:10,799 Speaker 3: you spend more money on submarines and tanks? 1664 01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:14,240 Speaker 4: Not in the cost of living crisis now it'd be 1665 01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:16,479 Speaker 4: way down the list, cost of living at the top, 1666 01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:19,640 Speaker 4: housing crisis number two. They're the things that people are 1667 01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:22,760 Speaker 4: most worried about. And so look, it's a good thing 1668 01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:24,640 Speaker 4: for the Australia who's going to put a hand up 1669 01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:26,240 Speaker 4: and say we're going to defend ourselves. But it's not 1670 01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:29,240 Speaker 4: going to turn a vote. The other interesting development today, 1671 01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:30,439 Speaker 4: and this is a bit of big story out of 1672 01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:34,840 Speaker 4: Australia today, is that the Labor Party has decided to 1673 01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:38,519 Speaker 4: preference the Greens number two on most of their how 1674 01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:43,240 Speaker 4: to vote cards, including in Anthony Albanesi's own seat of 1675 01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:48,360 Speaker 4: Merrickville in Sydney and a woman called Thomas. She has 1676 01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:53,240 Speaker 4: in the past said some pretty horrendous things. Anna Thomas, 1677 01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:58,959 Speaker 4: her name is about Palestine and Israel and Anthony Albanesi 1678 01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,320 Speaker 4: will put a number two next to her name on 1679 01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:04,160 Speaker 4: the hat to voatcard. The other tricky thing Mike is 1680 01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:07,040 Speaker 4: that he doesn't even reveal that she's a Green. Now 1681 01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:10,320 Speaker 4: she has come out and said a vote. He has 1682 01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:12,120 Speaker 4: come out and said she has come out and said 1683 01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:14,200 Speaker 4: a vote for the Greens. This is the Greens candidate 1684 01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:17,840 Speaker 4: in the PM's own seat is to vote with Palestine. 1685 01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:22,160 Speaker 4: The Albanesi government's complicit in genocide in Gaza and should 1686 01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:27,320 Speaker 4: help lock up Benjamin Netanyahu. Now, how cynical is it 1687 01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:31,919 Speaker 4: of major Pretty much the majority of the Albanzi cabinet 1688 01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:34,439 Speaker 4: are going to put Green's number two on the ticket. 1689 01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:36,560 Speaker 3: How many people would understand that? 1690 01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:37,000 Speaker 17: See? 1691 01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:39,400 Speaker 3: The preference thing fascinates me because I read the other 1692 01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:40,880 Speaker 3: day that once upon a time, and it wasn't that 1693 01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:44,720 Speaker 3: long ago, very few seats were sorted out in the 1694 01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:47,479 Speaker 3: first round. Most seats are preferenced these days. In other words, 1695 01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:51,080 Speaker 3: the outcome of any given seat is heavily reliant on preferencing. 1696 01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:53,920 Speaker 3: And if it's so reliant on preferencing, how the hell 1697 01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:55,120 Speaker 3: do you know what you're voting for? 1698 01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:58,599 Speaker 4: Well, it's difficult, and you mean you can lamely take 1699 01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:00,599 Speaker 4: a hat to vote card given to you, vote whatever 1700 01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:02,760 Speaker 4: party you think you're voting for, and just tick what 1701 01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:05,479 Speaker 4: they say, which is what most people do. I mean, 1702 01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:08,000 Speaker 4: if you're a Greens voter, you vote the Green ticket. 1703 01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:10,280 Speaker 4: If you're a Labor voter, you vote the Labor ticket, 1704 01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:14,000 Speaker 4: and so on with the coalition. Some people in individual 1705 01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:17,240 Speaker 4: seats who want to vote independent will put the Independent 1706 01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:18,840 Speaker 4: at the top and they might then have to make 1707 01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:22,080 Speaker 4: a decision between Labor and Liberal at number two. So 1708 01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:25,400 Speaker 4: preference votes, as you quite rightly say, do decide the 1709 01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:27,760 Speaker 4: outcome of the election. I think this will blow up 1710 01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:30,640 Speaker 4: big time in the PM space today. It's something that 1711 01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:33,719 Speaker 4: Darton should get hold of and say again and again 1712 01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:36,680 Speaker 4: and again. A vote for Labor is a vote for 1713 01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:37,280 Speaker 4: the Greens. 1714 01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,559 Speaker 3: What are the Greens poll out roughly in general terms. 1715 01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:43,000 Speaker 4: Somewhere? 1716 01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:46,960 Speaker 3: And are they radical? See our Green Party isn't really green. 1717 01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:50,000 Speaker 3: Our Greens all sort of they want to defund the 1718 01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:52,880 Speaker 3: police and they're. 1719 01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:55,000 Speaker 4: All correct, same right sore those old drugs. Right. 1720 01:21:55,520 --> 01:22:00,639 Speaker 3: So you it's the labor supporter traditional Albanzy supportern't naturally 1721 01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:03,599 Speaker 3: aligned with the Greens because the Greens aren't about the environment, 1722 01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:04,519 Speaker 3: They're about other stuff. 1723 01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:05,559 Speaker 18: Correct. 1724 01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,280 Speaker 4: If you're a working class later supporter living in Western 1725 01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:14,640 Speaker 4: Sydney of northern Melbourne, your values would not line up 1726 01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:17,480 Speaker 4: with the Greens at all, particularly on things like Palestine, 1727 01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:21,280 Speaker 4: but also on things like Laura and Order legalizing drugs. 1728 01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:24,240 Speaker 4: The Greens would send the country broke in a heartbeat. 1729 01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:28,000 Speaker 4: But I looked back at the election that Julia Gillard 1730 01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:30,320 Speaker 4: could not win on her own and ended up doing 1731 01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:32,840 Speaker 4: a deal without a band in the Greens. So label 1732 01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:34,360 Speaker 4: will deal with the Greens, There's no doubt about that. 1733 01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:37,400 Speaker 4: If election is as tight as tight as it might be, 1734 01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:38,560 Speaker 4: he will definitely do it. 1735 01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:42,040 Speaker 3: I was watching your colleague Laura Jayson Sky yesterday trying 1736 01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,800 Speaker 3: to bundle up Moniku Ryan, who was standing on the 1737 01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:46,960 Speaker 3: street in two rack and she doesn't talk to she 1738 01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:49,120 Speaker 3: doesn't do media interviews these days. And this was the 1739 01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:51,680 Speaker 3: business of paying influences to spruit their stuff, so a 1740 01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:53,280 Speaker 3: lot of that going on. I mean, how do you 1741 01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:57,240 Speaker 3: run as an MP standing on a footpath refusing to talk. 1742 01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:57,679 Speaker 16: To the media. 1743 01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:00,880 Speaker 4: You've got to be careful because you've got to refer 1744 01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:02,040 Speaker 4: to her as doctor. 1745 01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:04,080 Speaker 3: Oh sorry, Ryan, sorry, the doctor. 1746 01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:09,639 Speaker 4: You can't just say Manique rhymes doctor Minique Ryan. Well 1747 01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:15,120 Speaker 4: she just went won't engage with normal media. I mean 1748 01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:17,559 Speaker 4: she's spending millions of dollars out of Climate two hundreds 1749 01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:20,680 Speaker 4: bank account on posters and banners and that got her 1750 01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:23,960 Speaker 4: husband running around the electric tearing down her opponents how 1751 01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:28,240 Speaker 4: to vote posters. So Manique Ryan's a shocker. Will she 1752 01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:30,360 Speaker 4: get back in? I mean, God can only pray that 1753 01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:30,880 Speaker 4: she doesn't. 1754 01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:32,640 Speaker 3: All right, mate, go well, we'll catch up next week. 1755 01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:34,760 Speaker 3: Appreciate it very much. The price out of Australia for us. 1756 01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:38,160 Speaker 3: This morning, just in Prime Minister will be attending the 1757 01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:42,080 Speaker 3: Pope's funeral Pro Francis's funeral that's coming Saturday. That will 1758 01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:45,479 Speaker 3: be a day after he attends the ANZAC services in Ghilippi. 1759 01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:47,919 Speaker 3: So he's in London and we'll be going to Gallipoli 1760 01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:50,080 Speaker 3: and then we'll be going on to Rhyme. It seemed 1761 01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:52,920 Speaker 3: too close to be in that part of the world 1762 01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:54,639 Speaker 3: for him to miss out. So that's just been announced 1763 01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:57,080 Speaker 3: by the Prime Minister's office. Eight forty five. 1764 01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:03,080 Speaker 2: The Like Asking Breakfast Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard By 1765 01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:03,920 Speaker 2: News talks at b. 1766 01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:07,519 Speaker 3: Mike Tesla's Upper Buck fifty four or zero point six 1767 01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:09,639 Speaker 3: seven percent and after US trading, so the market must 1768 01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:11,920 Speaker 3: have been expecting worse. Mike, appreciate your input on that. 1769 01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:14,680 Speaker 3: Just gave Tesla's result before we went to Steve. By 1770 01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:19,280 Speaker 3: the way, c ATL, which is short for Contemporary Amperex 1771 01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:22,840 Speaker 3: Technology Company Limited one of the biggest, if not the 1772 01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:25,040 Speaker 3: biggest battery makers in the world, and they supply a 1773 01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:27,840 Speaker 3: whole bunch of EV makers in various parts of the world. Anyway, 1774 01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:29,880 Speaker 3: they've anounced they've got a five hundred a couple of 1775 01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:33,040 Speaker 3: years away, but they're doing a whole bunch of stuff around. 1776 01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:36,920 Speaker 3: Batteries are cheaper, lighter, faster to recharge, more resilient to cold, 1777 01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:39,160 Speaker 3: all that sort of stuff. Anyway, they reckon they got 1778 01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:41,920 Speaker 3: a five hundred and twenty kilometer battery, which in and 1779 01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:44,040 Speaker 3: of itself is no big deal, but you can charge 1780 01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:46,880 Speaker 3: it in five minutes. So if that's for real and 1781 01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:49,280 Speaker 3: they can whack that in a car, that's the game change. 1782 01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:52,040 Speaker 3: That's the thing that's holding EV's back, apart from you know, 1783 01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:54,040 Speaker 3: all sorts of interesting things like the price and driver 1784 01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:58,320 Speaker 3: ability and reliance and resale value, et cetera. But if 1785 01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:00,200 Speaker 3: one of the biggest is how long does it take 1786 01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:02,640 Speaker 3: you to recharge? So it gets rid of the range anxiety. 1787 01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:05,479 Speaker 3: If you can pull into a place and take no 1788 01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:08,880 Speaker 3: longer than you can currently for petrol to recharge your 1789 01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:12,360 Speaker 3: car as battery, then that changes the whole dynamic of 1790 01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:14,040 Speaker 3: what we're dealing with as far as I can work out. 1791 01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:18,040 Speaker 3: Strange business. I didn't realize, but the Academy came out yesterday, 1792 01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:21,959 Speaker 3: the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences in Los Angeles, 1793 01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:26,240 Speaker 3: and they change the rules around the OSCARS. So there's 1794 01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:30,160 Speaker 3: a new regulations, new regulations on AI and also Refugee 1795 01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:36,680 Speaker 3: Filmmakers International Film Category. It will allow the filmmaker with 1796 01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:41,120 Speaker 3: refugee or asylum status to be represented by a country 1797 01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:44,720 Speaker 3: not their own. So what they're arguing is, if you're 1798 01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:46,599 Speaker 3: a refugee, you've got to go back to the country 1799 01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:49,479 Speaker 3: you fled from. And of course the country you fled 1800 01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:52,200 Speaker 3: from will be controlled not necessarily by a person of 1801 01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:56,240 Speaker 3: your liking or choosing. Hence you've fled, Hence they may 1802 01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:58,760 Speaker 3: not be that accommodating of your desire to be an 1803 01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:02,120 Speaker 3: entrant in the OS. So they've said, if you've lobbed 1804 01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:04,720 Speaker 3: into America and you're living in Hollywood, name America as 1805 01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:06,120 Speaker 3: your country, and will have a look at your film. 1806 01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:09,320 Speaker 3: So that's moderately interesting. What's even more interesting, and what 1807 01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:12,280 Speaker 3: I didn't realize is, of course the members of which 1808 01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:15,439 Speaker 3: there are hundreds, if not thousands, most of them are 1809 01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:18,360 Speaker 3: the famous people. You would know you don't actually have 1810 01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:20,599 Speaker 3: to watch the movie to vote. I would have thought 1811 01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:22,680 Speaker 3: that would have been a given. So all of these 1812 01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:25,680 Speaker 3: people who vote for the oscars do not have to 1813 01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:28,920 Speaker 3: and indeed don't watch the movies they vote for, so 1814 01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:34,439 Speaker 3: something of such significance in the film industry, it's entirely possible, 1815 01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:40,800 Speaker 3: and they admit it, particularly in long form movies, because 1816 01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:42,240 Speaker 3: they have a look at some of the some of 1817 01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:44,240 Speaker 3: the pieces of paper with no names on. They go, well, 1818 01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:45,639 Speaker 3: I didn't watch that one because it was too long. 1819 01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:48,759 Speaker 3: And yet you can win an oscar, and it's entirely possible. 1820 01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:50,479 Speaker 3: Half the people who voted for you didn't even see 1821 01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:52,880 Speaker 3: the movie. How weird is that? Anyway? That rule has changed, 1822 01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:55,040 Speaker 3: How they're going to regulate it, I've got no idea 1823 01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:57,000 Speaker 3: how they're going to prove that you did watch it. 1824 01:26:57,040 --> 01:26:58,840 Speaker 3: I've got no idea, But that will be the new 1825 01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:01,559 Speaker 3: rule going forward right away from nine the. 1826 01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:04,639 Speaker 2: Mic Hosking breakfast with the range rover of the Lawn 1827 01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:05,680 Speaker 2: News talks head be. 1828 01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:07,559 Speaker 3: Mike, it might be able to charge in five minutes, 1829 01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,320 Speaker 3: but will you be able to do that? The power 1830 01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:13,639 Speaker 3: infrastructure required will be well, that's another time thing. It'll 1831 01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:16,320 Speaker 3: all come right eventually. By the way, if you spend 1832 01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:18,759 Speaker 3: as much time as I do on the shopping channels, 1833 01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:21,200 Speaker 3: you might have noticed a bit of a trend. 1834 01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:23,640 Speaker 1: I will say this. 1835 01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:26,280 Speaker 27: We are talking about tariffs, and I know I get 1836 01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:27,920 Speaker 27: it because a lot of people are writing in They're like, 1837 01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:28,640 Speaker 27: don't say it. 1838 01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:30,320 Speaker 3: I don't want to hear the word tariff again. 1839 01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:34,160 Speaker 27: But right now, two hundred and fifty percent increase in tariffs, 1840 01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:37,519 Speaker 27: that's what we're facing. So all of these items, seriously, 1841 01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:41,439 Speaker 27: they will never come back for that price tag of 1842 01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:43,680 Speaker 27: twenty four to ninety nine, and they may never come 1843 01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:44,360 Speaker 27: back period. 1844 01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:45,240 Speaker 1: Take close up. 1845 01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:46,639 Speaker 27: Look this is the final nineteen. 1846 01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:49,360 Speaker 3: That's what I'm doing in the afternoon. I'm buying up Big. 1847 01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:52,879 Speaker 3: I'm buying Giant cup Big. By the way, Andre Egacy, 1848 01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:55,720 Speaker 3: this weekend is going to deboo as a what give 1849 01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:56,400 Speaker 3: you two guesses? 1850 01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:56,719 Speaker 14: Wrong? 1851 01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:00,640 Speaker 3: Professional pickleball play he's going to be a professional pickleball 1852 01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:04,559 Speaker 3: players taken up pickleball. Who hasn't taken up pickleball? Every 1853 01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:07,439 Speaker 3: person in the world is playing pickleball and pickleball courts. 1854 01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:09,840 Speaker 3: If you've got money and you want to put it somewhere, 1855 01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:12,560 Speaker 3: don't put it in Tesla, put it into pickleball infrastructure. 1856 01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:16,679 Speaker 3: Tell you ask any club that's got a pickleball court 1857 01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:20,400 Speaker 3: how many bookings they've got versus bookings to a squash court, 1858 01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:24,040 Speaker 3: bookings to a tennis court. Pickleballs the future five minutes 1859 01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:25,599 Speaker 3: away from nine trending. 1860 01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:29,519 Speaker 1: Now you're one stuff for Mother's Day. 1861 01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:33,400 Speaker 3: Fragrances speaking a sports shack as An O'Neill. So he's 1862 01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:37,200 Speaker 3: been on the inside the NBA show and unfortunately mid 1863 01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:38,680 Speaker 3: air he had to go. He said, I got to go. 1864 01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:40,840 Speaker 3: And you know what it's like on Live T when 1865 01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:41,720 Speaker 3: you've got to go, You got to go? 1866 01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:45,000 Speaker 16: Is you know what your big fell and I'll catch 1867 01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:45,719 Speaker 16: it a crap. 1868 01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:49,960 Speaker 3: Got there, keep talking, Joe, Yeah, we're on TV. 1869 01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:52,599 Speaker 16: Know what we don't work? That's that olive all you've 1870 01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:53,080 Speaker 16: been drinking. 1871 01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:59,439 Speaker 1: Now you take some matches with you, Hey, listen, he 1872 01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:03,840 Speaker 1: could hold it del I'll hit the forty's. 1873 01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:05,679 Speaker 3: It first you gil listen, hey, listen. 1874 01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,280 Speaker 1: Then drinking little water? Drinking that water? 1875 01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:10,439 Speaker 4: Chuck, stop talking so that much? 1876 01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:13,120 Speaker 1: What should be finish your points that we can go 1877 01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:15,400 Speaker 1: to break wait on your pol. 1878 01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:20,920 Speaker 20: I'm sitting here like the hell up, I'm sorry about that, 1879 01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:22,080 Speaker 20: America number one. 1880 01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:24,680 Speaker 3: He doesn't sound well, does he does? He sort of 1881 01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:27,479 Speaker 3: just I saw him running too, And when I say running, 1882 01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:29,840 Speaker 3: he doesn't run. He sort of shuffles. Anyway, he's he's 1883 01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:31,920 Speaker 3: on hundred and forty seven kg's which might have something 1884 01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:34,960 Speaker 3: to do with it. Where's a twenty two as in 1885 01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:38,120 Speaker 3: size he's seven foot one, so getting around. When you 1886 01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:39,880 Speaker 3: gotta go, you gotta go. But anyway, if you've got 1887 01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:42,120 Speaker 3: nothing on this afternoon, hit the shopping networks. Honestly, I 1888 01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:44,160 Speaker 3: tell you some of those prices you're never going to 1889 01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:46,840 Speaker 3: see anything like it again, because those terrorists are just 1890 01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:49,040 Speaker 3: destroying the home shopping networks all over the world. And 1891 01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:51,760 Speaker 3: once those products are gone, I mean you know, once 1892 01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:53,599 Speaker 3: they're gone, they're gone, you're not going to see them pack. 1893 01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:56,920 Speaker 3: We're back tomorrow morning though as of six o'clock. As always, 1894 01:29:57,280 --> 01:29:58,120 Speaker 3: happy days. 1895 01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:01,600 Speaker 1: Where you can go. 1896 01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:06,360 Speaker 4: You're not the part live 1897 01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:11,800 Speaker 2: For more from the mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 1898 01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:15,000 Speaker 2: News Talks A B from six am weekdays, or follow 1899 01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:16,600 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio