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Speaker 1: Either do for Celan. Now there is a push to

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Speaker 1: get public servants using the ubers rather than the taxis

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Speaker 1: to try to save some money. It's come from the

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Speaker 1: Act Party MP Todd Stevenson, who's written to the New

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Speaker 1: State Services Commissioner. Brian wrote to try to get him

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Speaker 1: to change the rules.

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Speaker 2: In Todd's with us A Todd, hello, how are you well?

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Speaker 1: Thank you? Are these actually the rules? Because I've got

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Speaker 1: a text before saying MB staff are told they have

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Speaker 1: to use ubers and not corporate cabs.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's actually very encouraging. I think there's basically a

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Speaker 2: lot of inconsistency. And when I wrote to the Public

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Speaker 2: Service Commissioner, I said, look, it seems to be there.

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Speaker 2: It seems to be some blanket rules they can't be

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Speaker 2: used to send to me some inconsistencies. Can you just

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Speaker 2: kind of do across the public service ruling that it

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Speaker 2: is an option, So again not making people do it,

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Speaker 2: but saying yes, you are allowed to use the right

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Speaker 2: chavis like uber.

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Speaker 1: So in some instances they're actually not allowed.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, definitely some departments they are not allowed to.

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Speaker 2: Why then they wouldn't Well that's a great question. Heither

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Speaker 2: maybe it's historic. But yeah, if they try to claim

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Speaker 2: using a an uber for example, then they wouldn't get reinvested.

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Speaker 1: Why do they not explain?

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I don't know. It's a great question. Look,

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Speaker 2: it may be historic. I mean about a decade ago

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Speaker 2: when Uber was getting going, they did actually operate in

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Speaker 2: a bit of a gray area. But as you know

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Speaker 2: now hither you know it's very well manculated because.

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Speaker 1: Because when you get your little uber thing that says

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Speaker 1: you caught the ride from here to hear it like

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Speaker 1: it's quite comprehensive, you know what I mean, Like it's

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Speaker 1: it's actively more comprehensive than anything you'd get from a taxi,

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Speaker 1: isn't it.

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Speaker 2: That's it And that's why I like it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, I think before the news you're talking about

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Speaker 2: the cost of going somewhere where you can sent advance

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Speaker 2: it with an uber, how much it's going to cost? Right,

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Speaker 2: you get the exact trip detail, where you went to

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Speaker 2: where you went common that's why ARM is it all

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Speaker 2: the time. And then I can just you know, pull

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Speaker 2: down the receipts out of my out of my app,

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Speaker 2: which is great because you don't lose any paperwork.

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Speaker 1: What about Todd, You've got this cool You've got this

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Speaker 1: cool option. We've got this at work where I can

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Speaker 1: have my personal Uber account, but then there's the work

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Speaker 1: credit card loaders, so I can actually use the work

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Speaker 1: credit card account if I need to. And it gets

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Speaker 1: like it's on it's incumbent on me to obviously be

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Speaker 1: sensible and not do the wrong way around. But that

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Speaker 1: surely would like is up on a thousand times on

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Speaker 1: the admin that a department would have to do.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely And in fact I use that exact feature as well.

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Speaker 2: I actually used it before I came to parlament my

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Speaker 2: corporate life. The other great thing too, hither is if

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Speaker 2: you actually do make a mistake, is actually an option

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Speaker 2: you can go back and actually have the transaction reversed right,

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Speaker 2: so actually credits the right card as long as you

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Speaker 2: do it with those within a few hours of the trip.

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Speaker 2: So look, I think there's a lot of advantages to it.

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Speaker 2: Always saying is let's just make it an option. What

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Speaker 2: you know, absolutely available across the public service, a lot

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Speaker 2: of public so we're very happy to do it. You know,

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Speaker 2: they probably find Uber convenient, like you.

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Speaker 1: Know, Todd, did you when you're off a sweep steak.

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Speaker 2: I did you heard that?

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Speaker 1: Now I heard that? How much money did you put in?

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Speaker 2: Look, we all put in. There are five dollars tickets.

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Speaker 2: I had a couple of tickets. We had had two

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Speaker 2: sweep steaks, so I want about one hundred dollars.

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Speaker 1: So you guys are obsessed with money at the ACT party,

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Speaker 1: like you're really keen on not spending too much. We've

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Speaker 1: had a debate in our office. We had to put

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Speaker 1: ten bucks in. Is that too much? Do you think

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Speaker 1: for an office sweepstake?

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Speaker 2: No, I thank you. I think tickets around five or

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Speaker 2: ten dollars is all right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, thank you X Party. This is okay, Todd,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Todd Stevenson EX Party MP nineteen Away from six.

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