1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,467 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,787 Speaker 1: from News Talk ZEDB. 3 00:00:12,827 --> 00:00:15,947 Speaker 2: Steve Rickson fondly remembered here in New Zealand for his 4 00:00:16,067 --> 00:00:18,627 Speaker 2: time as Black Caps coach from nineteen ninety seven to 5 00:00:18,627 --> 00:00:23,107 Speaker 2: two thousand. He oversaw a period of significant success, including 6 00:00:23,227 --> 00:00:25,987 Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety nine when New Zealand won two Tests 7 00:00:26,027 --> 00:00:28,547 Speaker 2: in a series in England for the very first time. 8 00:00:28,587 --> 00:00:31,267 Speaker 2: It became just the second black Caps team to win 9 00:00:31,267 --> 00:00:34,147 Speaker 2: a Test series in England. And New Zealand have won 10 00:00:34,187 --> 00:00:37,667 Speaker 2: the match, they have won the series and they have 11 00:00:37,747 --> 00:00:40,507 Speaker 2: played excellent precon here. While he was at the hell 12 00:00:40,587 --> 00:00:42,827 Speaker 2: New Zealand also won a Test match in Pakistan for 13 00:00:42,867 --> 00:00:46,107 Speaker 2: the first time since nineteen sixty nine and beat some 14 00:00:46,227 --> 00:00:49,267 Speaker 2: barbwe Sri Lanka and India in series here at home. 15 00:00:49,347 --> 00:00:51,987 Speaker 2: Steve Rickson joins us on Weekend Sport. Great to have 16 00:00:52,067 --> 00:00:53,907 Speaker 2: you with us. Steve understand you've got together with a 17 00:00:53,947 --> 00:00:57,187 Speaker 2: few players from that ninety nine tour and series win 18 00:00:57,467 --> 00:01:00,187 Speaker 2: over England. How fond of your memories even twenty five 19 00:01:00,267 --> 00:01:00,667 Speaker 2: years on. 20 00:01:01,707 --> 00:01:04,547 Speaker 3: I don't know where the embellishment's are grown, but certainly 21 00:01:04,587 --> 00:01:07,907 Speaker 3: the fondness of the the memory of that trip was 22 00:01:08,147 --> 00:01:11,147 Speaker 3: certainly amplified over the last two days and it was 23 00:01:11,347 --> 00:01:13,547 Speaker 3: just the best time I knew it would be. But 24 00:01:14,147 --> 00:01:17,827 Speaker 3: getting together with all the group again and sharing stories, 25 00:01:18,067 --> 00:01:19,547 Speaker 3: I don't think we could get enough of each other 26 00:01:19,587 --> 00:01:23,187 Speaker 3: to be fair. And we've just had two absolutely stunning days. 27 00:01:23,227 --> 00:01:27,987 Speaker 3: So I'm heading back to Sydney today. But I've enjoyed 28 00:01:28,027 --> 00:01:31,387 Speaker 3: every moment of being over here and it's reunited all 29 00:01:31,387 --> 00:01:33,867 Speaker 3: those great, great thoughts and some of the stories that 30 00:01:33,907 --> 00:01:36,507 Speaker 3: came out, it was just absolutely stunning. 31 00:01:36,587 --> 00:01:38,747 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they never get old, do those stories even 32 00:01:38,747 --> 00:01:42,507 Speaker 2: twenty five years on. Was it particularly special to win 33 00:01:42,547 --> 00:01:44,187 Speaker 2: a Test match at Lords on that tour? 34 00:01:46,187 --> 00:01:48,867 Speaker 3: Well, I've been in associate with a lot of criticized 35 00:01:48,907 --> 00:01:51,507 Speaker 3: and we've always won it Lord's so to me personally, 36 00:01:51,947 --> 00:01:55,027 Speaker 3: not so much. But I guess I guess the real 37 00:01:55,067 --> 00:01:58,267 Speaker 3: big key to that Lord's Test for me was having 38 00:01:58,307 --> 00:02:01,867 Speaker 3: been beaten in the first Test, which I found extraordinarily 39 00:02:01,907 --> 00:02:05,747 Speaker 3: hard to accept because we've prepared well, We played so 40 00:02:05,827 --> 00:02:08,747 Speaker 3: well during that Test, and Alex Tudor and Graham Thorpe 41 00:02:09,227 --> 00:02:11,267 Speaker 3: put on a big partnership to actually get them over 42 00:02:11,267 --> 00:02:13,147 Speaker 3: the line. But they had only won about two sessions 43 00:02:13,227 --> 00:02:16,627 Speaker 3: the whole game, we've been dominating. But the ride back 44 00:02:16,907 --> 00:02:20,227 Speaker 3: to London on the end one was a bit sour 45 00:02:20,347 --> 00:02:21,947 Speaker 3: for me and I just couldn't think of what I 46 00:02:21,987 --> 00:02:24,387 Speaker 3: was going to try to do. So over the period 47 00:02:24,427 --> 00:02:27,307 Speaker 3: of the trip, I said to everyone, my bags down, 48 00:02:27,787 --> 00:02:29,987 Speaker 3: we need to get upstairs and have a talk. And 49 00:02:30,067 --> 00:02:32,827 Speaker 3: so we went upstairs had a talk and I said this, 50 00:02:32,907 --> 00:02:35,267 Speaker 3: I've got one question for that I need an answer 51 00:02:35,707 --> 00:02:38,227 Speaker 3: every one of you for And he said, well, in 52 00:02:38,307 --> 00:02:40,627 Speaker 3: the first bloke said what's the question, Stuffer, And I said, well, 53 00:02:40,707 --> 00:02:42,627 Speaker 3: I just want to know what each of you guys 54 00:02:43,067 --> 00:02:44,787 Speaker 3: are going to do to make the difference in the 55 00:02:44,787 --> 00:02:47,547 Speaker 3: second test. Just tell me one thing. And you know 56 00:02:47,627 --> 00:02:50,467 Speaker 3: I heard the bland answer, a bland answer, and bland answer, 57 00:02:50,467 --> 00:02:53,027 Speaker 3: and then on the fourth the fourth answer came from 58 00:02:53,067 --> 00:02:54,867 Speaker 3: Chris Cans and he leapt up out of his chair 59 00:02:55,507 --> 00:02:56,827 Speaker 3: and he said, I'll tell you what I'm going to 60 00:02:56,827 --> 00:02:59,027 Speaker 3: be doing. My name will be on that board in 61 00:02:59,067 --> 00:03:01,227 Speaker 3: the visitors room. I can't tell you right now that 62 00:03:01,947 --> 00:03:04,627 Speaker 3: I've scored one hundred or five, I've taken five wickets, 63 00:03:04,827 --> 00:03:07,507 Speaker 3: but I will be on that board, mark my words. 64 00:03:07,587 --> 00:03:09,667 Speaker 3: And like I could feel the hairs on my neck, 65 00:03:09,747 --> 00:03:12,827 Speaker 3: just move immediately, and that exactly, that little spark was 66 00:03:12,867 --> 00:03:14,907 Speaker 3: the I don't even know what the rest said, to 67 00:03:14,907 --> 00:03:17,027 Speaker 3: be fair, because that was all I was looking for, 68 00:03:17,107 --> 00:03:19,867 Speaker 3: that little spark, and that started the whole return, and 69 00:03:19,907 --> 00:03:23,587 Speaker 3: we never looked back. From the win at Lord Throw 70 00:03:23,627 --> 00:03:26,387 Speaker 3: to going up North and getting washed out up there 71 00:03:26,427 --> 00:03:29,987 Speaker 3: and having dominated that game, and then of course singing 72 00:03:30,307 --> 00:03:32,827 Speaker 3: we are the champions in Lord's stressing rooms with those 73 00:03:32,947 --> 00:03:37,067 Speaker 3: very thin walls, hearing the English cringing next door, and 74 00:03:37,267 --> 00:03:38,667 Speaker 3: I don't think I've actually recovered. 75 00:03:39,627 --> 00:03:42,587 Speaker 2: I love it well. Chris Kenes did exactly as he said, 76 00:03:42,667 --> 00:03:45,507 Speaker 2: six for seventy seven. Of course man Horn got a hundred, 77 00:03:45,547 --> 00:03:48,307 Speaker 2: so he's up on the board as well. Some wonderful memories. 78 00:03:48,627 --> 00:03:50,627 Speaker 2: What else really stands out when you think back, It's 79 00:03:50,667 --> 00:03:52,947 Speaker 2: obviously a team that, even twenty five years on, if 80 00:03:52,947 --> 00:03:55,627 Speaker 2: you're still getting back together, you obviously enjoy one another's 81 00:03:55,627 --> 00:03:56,507 Speaker 2: company pretty much. 82 00:03:57,467 --> 00:04:01,187 Speaker 3: Yeah, we do, and we seriously we've We didn't watch 83 00:04:01,187 --> 00:04:03,027 Speaker 3: a lot of the cricket, to be honest. Yesterday we 84 00:04:03,267 --> 00:04:06,907 Speaker 3: just sat there and spoke about everything and anything that 85 00:04:07,027 --> 00:04:09,227 Speaker 3: was associated with a ninety nine trip, even down to 86 00:04:09,267 --> 00:04:14,347 Speaker 3: the I so vividly remember speaking. Chris Bog asked me 87 00:04:14,347 --> 00:04:16,227 Speaker 3: to go to the Halburg Awards a couple of weeks 88 00:04:16,267 --> 00:04:19,667 Speaker 3: after I'd accepted the to take on the Kuwi. So 89 00:04:20,107 --> 00:04:22,267 Speaker 3: I went along and I just sat and listened to 90 00:04:23,307 --> 00:04:27,867 Speaker 3: comedian one of your sportsman the compare absolutely ship bag 91 00:04:27,907 --> 00:04:30,987 Speaker 3: the black Caps, and I'm going, really, really, this is 92 00:04:31,027 --> 00:04:33,067 Speaker 3: your national cricket team and this is this is what 93 00:04:33,067 --> 00:04:34,947 Speaker 3: everyone's got to say about you. And I said to 94 00:04:35,027 --> 00:04:37,827 Speaker 3: Chris at the time, I said, mate, I've this is 95 00:04:37,907 --> 00:04:39,467 Speaker 3: this is not right. I want to go. I want 96 00:04:39,467 --> 00:04:41,267 Speaker 3: to go. And he said, nice, Stump, but just whole five, 97 00:04:41,427 --> 00:04:42,947 Speaker 3: you know, just hanging there for a little bit longer 98 00:04:42,987 --> 00:04:44,787 Speaker 3: and I'll tell you when you can go. But I'd 99 00:04:44,787 --> 00:04:47,427 Speaker 3: never ever forgot that. And three years later, when we've 100 00:04:47,427 --> 00:04:51,787 Speaker 3: come back and I've arrived back in Sydney, he rang 101 00:04:51,827 --> 00:04:53,027 Speaker 3: me and he said, I was Stump, I want you 102 00:04:53,027 --> 00:04:54,827 Speaker 3: to come over for the I want you to come 103 00:04:54,827 --> 00:04:57,787 Speaker 3: over for the Halberg Awards. And I laughed at him. 104 00:04:57,787 --> 00:05:02,507 Speaker 3: I said, how's your memory? And I love Chris. I'd 105 00:05:02,507 --> 00:05:05,627 Speaker 3: do anything for Chris. And anyway, if they're plues, just 106 00:05:05,627 --> 00:05:07,947 Speaker 3: come over. I said, look for the awards. I'm not 107 00:05:07,987 --> 00:05:10,987 Speaker 3: coming over for you, I will come over. So I 108 00:05:11,027 --> 00:05:14,867 Speaker 3: went over there and when just a bit of a 109 00:05:14,867 --> 00:05:16,587 Speaker 3: feel that we might have gone close to winning these 110 00:05:16,867 --> 00:05:19,467 Speaker 3: you'd taken off the All Blacks for the first time, 111 00:05:19,507 --> 00:05:22,467 Speaker 3: and anyway, we did get And now I said to 112 00:05:22,467 --> 00:05:25,587 Speaker 3: you Nash and and Jeff Ellott, I said, you boys, 113 00:05:25,587 --> 00:05:27,587 Speaker 3: sit in the background. I've had a little boke on 114 00:05:27,627 --> 00:05:29,627 Speaker 3: my shoulder for three years. I'm just about to get 115 00:05:29,707 --> 00:05:31,987 Speaker 3: him off. And he said, you'd start up to say 116 00:05:31,987 --> 00:05:33,907 Speaker 3: a word that They just sat back. I think they 117 00:05:33,907 --> 00:05:35,667 Speaker 3: were horrified it was going to come out of my mouth. 118 00:05:35,707 --> 00:05:38,907 Speaker 3: But anyway, I got up and I never forgot or 119 00:05:39,187 --> 00:05:41,987 Speaker 3: missed anybody that should have been should have been tagged 120 00:05:42,027 --> 00:05:44,707 Speaker 3: at the time. And I have a thousand people in 121 00:05:44,747 --> 00:05:48,507 Speaker 3: this marquets all stood to the standing ovation at the 122 00:05:48,587 --> 00:05:50,787 Speaker 3: end of it, and I said, now, that's the reason 123 00:05:50,827 --> 00:05:53,347 Speaker 3: we played this game, that's the reason I coach, that's 124 00:05:53,347 --> 00:05:55,347 Speaker 3: the reason these players have played the game, and that's 125 00:05:55,387 --> 00:05:58,067 Speaker 3: the reward you should be getting as your national cricket team. 126 00:05:58,107 --> 00:06:01,107 Speaker 3: And it was one of the absolute fondness memories. And 127 00:06:01,147 --> 00:06:02,547 Speaker 3: I shared that with the boys the other day and 128 00:06:02,587 --> 00:06:04,867 Speaker 3: they said, we remember it so well because they were 129 00:06:04,947 --> 00:06:08,667 Speaker 3: up in Wellington playing a game. So yeah, one wonderful, 130 00:06:08,667 --> 00:06:10,987 Speaker 3: wonderful memories. And they just keep on going on, you know, 131 00:06:11,027 --> 00:06:14,507 Speaker 3: the stories, stories throughout this this day, and one story 132 00:06:14,587 --> 00:06:17,267 Speaker 3: led to another, and you know, seven or eight hours later, 133 00:06:17,507 --> 00:06:20,107 Speaker 3: just sitting at the same chair, we kept going. 134 00:06:21,787 --> 00:06:25,467 Speaker 2: One of the real features of New Zealand under your watch, Steve, 135 00:06:25,747 --> 00:06:28,987 Speaker 2: was the fielding. It became a benchmark of the side 136 00:06:29,107 --> 00:06:31,627 Speaker 2: under your guidance. How did you make that happen? 137 00:06:33,267 --> 00:06:36,067 Speaker 3: Very simply one of my very very early statements to them, 138 00:06:36,107 --> 00:06:39,147 Speaker 3: I said, I don't know how, how or if we 139 00:06:39,187 --> 00:06:41,427 Speaker 3: can be the best batting side in the world. I 140 00:06:41,467 --> 00:06:43,587 Speaker 3: don't know how or if we can be the best 141 00:06:43,587 --> 00:06:45,987 Speaker 3: bowling side in the world. But I can't see one 142 00:06:46,067 --> 00:06:48,427 Speaker 3: reason we can't be the best fielding side in the world. 143 00:06:48,707 --> 00:06:50,707 Speaker 3: That's going to make the bowler's job so much as 144 00:06:50,787 --> 00:06:53,267 Speaker 3: you Instead of trying to get fifteen wickets, we're getting 145 00:06:53,267 --> 00:06:56,867 Speaker 3: eleven out, sorry, ten out, and that's going to make 146 00:06:56,867 --> 00:06:59,507 Speaker 3: the whole process work well. And all the boys spoke 147 00:06:59,507 --> 00:07:01,587 Speaker 3: about this yesterday as well, all the hard work we 148 00:07:01,627 --> 00:07:04,667 Speaker 3: put in, and he said, I remember Maca said to me, 149 00:07:04,707 --> 00:07:07,747 Speaker 3: he said, I remember walking off my god, if this 150 00:07:07,827 --> 00:07:10,147 Speaker 3: is how our fielding and roots things are going to be, 151 00:07:10,587 --> 00:07:12,907 Speaker 3: we've got a lot of work to them and and 152 00:07:13,067 --> 00:07:16,267 Speaker 3: that's going to be hard. But as they improved and 153 00:07:16,307 --> 00:07:18,547 Speaker 3: as they went along, we're one of one of the 154 00:07:18,587 --> 00:07:22,027 Speaker 3: best catching catching groups that I think I've ever seen 155 00:07:22,107 --> 00:07:24,827 Speaker 3: in world cricket. With the Barrali on the stumps, who 156 00:07:24,907 --> 00:07:27,907 Speaker 3: was keeping well, you had the fleming are still young, 157 00:07:28,347 --> 00:07:31,507 Speaker 3: and it was like the Tory as well in the gully. 158 00:07:32,067 --> 00:07:34,787 Speaker 3: Macca ran the same place, but it was just we 159 00:07:34,787 --> 00:07:36,827 Speaker 3: didn't drop too many catches in the cordin at all, 160 00:07:36,867 --> 00:07:39,747 Speaker 3: and that makes such a difference to the duels of Nashes, 161 00:07:39,787 --> 00:07:43,987 Speaker 3: the Tansas, et cetera of the world. And it was 162 00:07:44,147 --> 00:07:46,987 Speaker 3: just wonderful. So we did put a lot of emphasis 163 00:07:46,987 --> 00:07:49,627 Speaker 3: on on it. Not that we we missed out on 164 00:07:49,667 --> 00:07:52,187 Speaker 3: the other areas, but we thought that's where we can 165 00:07:52,227 --> 00:07:55,867 Speaker 3: absolutely shine, and we did. We were the best fielding 166 00:07:55,867 --> 00:07:57,747 Speaker 3: side in the world for quite quite a period of time. 167 00:07:58,067 --> 00:08:00,547 Speaker 3: But I've noted over the years that they've been very 168 00:08:00,667 --> 00:08:02,627 Speaker 3: very good. They had a blemish the other day and 169 00:08:02,707 --> 00:08:05,707 Speaker 3: they but those things will happen occasionally. You hope they 170 00:08:05,747 --> 00:08:09,347 Speaker 3: don't happen more and more than once, but yeah, you 171 00:08:09,427 --> 00:08:11,747 Speaker 3: are allowed to have a bad day. And I just 172 00:08:11,787 --> 00:08:14,707 Speaker 3: think generally speaking, their fielding hasn't been too bad in 173 00:08:14,747 --> 00:08:17,947 Speaker 3: the last four or five years, and and they've really 174 00:08:17,987 --> 00:08:20,107 Speaker 3: put some emphats on doing a lot of what we 175 00:08:20,147 --> 00:08:21,067 Speaker 3: did in the early days. 176 00:08:21,427 --> 00:08:23,227 Speaker 2: It's obviously not going quite so well for the current 177 00:08:23,267 --> 00:08:26,067 Speaker 2: side against England. Or what have you made of this 178 00:08:26,187 --> 00:08:29,827 Speaker 2: current series and England's domination of it? 179 00:08:31,347 --> 00:08:33,947 Speaker 3: Yeah, looking looking at it, and I have seen quite 180 00:08:33,987 --> 00:08:35,587 Speaker 3: a bit of the series. I watched all the first 181 00:08:35,627 --> 00:08:38,667 Speaker 3: Test and a little bit of this Test so far. 182 00:08:38,787 --> 00:08:42,507 Speaker 3: But they have been they have been outplayed. They've been 183 00:08:42,507 --> 00:08:45,307 Speaker 3: given the opportunity of staying in the game England with 184 00:08:45,427 --> 00:08:47,747 Speaker 3: the drop catches in the first Test. That would have 185 00:08:47,787 --> 00:08:50,907 Speaker 3: if you've had, of course books, I think that could 186 00:08:50,907 --> 00:08:52,947 Speaker 3: have been a completely different test. But this Test we've 187 00:08:52,947 --> 00:08:56,987 Speaker 3: been completely outplayed so far and we'll just have to 188 00:08:57,027 --> 00:09:00,947 Speaker 3: wait to see how the pans out from here. But yeah, look, 189 00:09:01,027 --> 00:09:03,587 Speaker 3: I mean one side are very well bornd side. They 190 00:09:03,587 --> 00:09:05,827 Speaker 3: are playing a brand of cricket that if they get 191 00:09:05,867 --> 00:09:08,547 Speaker 3: on top, the to hurt you. Because the currency in 192 00:09:08,627 --> 00:09:11,427 Speaker 3: cricket is scoring runs and they do know how to 193 00:09:11,467 --> 00:09:13,547 Speaker 3: do that. They will fall on their face on occasions 194 00:09:13,547 --> 00:09:15,827 Speaker 3: with the and I hate using the word, but the 195 00:09:15,867 --> 00:09:20,107 Speaker 3: baseball approach they they they have, but they are going 196 00:09:20,147 --> 00:09:22,587 Speaker 3: to stick with that. And as we saw even either 197 00:09:22,627 --> 00:09:26,747 Speaker 3: this morning with Route getting one hundred and Stuck's doing 198 00:09:26,747 --> 00:09:30,027 Speaker 3: what he did, they just accelerate the scoreboard to actually 199 00:09:30,067 --> 00:09:32,947 Speaker 3: get themselves further in front and probably out of the 200 00:09:32,947 --> 00:09:35,627 Speaker 3: reach of the Kugi win. So yeah, they're probably a 201 00:09:35,627 --> 00:09:37,827 Speaker 3: little bit better at the moment. And I would like 202 00:09:37,867 --> 00:09:39,547 Speaker 3: to see the two young kids take the new ball, 203 00:09:39,587 --> 00:09:41,827 Speaker 3: but that's something I haven't quite got my head around. 204 00:09:42,347 --> 00:09:46,187 Speaker 3: I'm seeing guys biling up one forty and south. He's 205 00:09:46,227 --> 00:09:50,467 Speaker 3: been a wonderful, wonderful player for your country. But when 206 00:09:50,907 --> 00:09:55,027 Speaker 3: the oppositions start charging it from first ball, I'm guessing 207 00:09:55,067 --> 00:09:56,987 Speaker 3: that probably the one twenty five to one twenty eight 208 00:09:57,067 --> 00:09:59,667 Speaker 3: isn't going to cut it in the bottom day game 209 00:09:59,707 --> 00:10:01,547 Speaker 3: the way they're playing. So i'd like to see the 210 00:10:01,587 --> 00:10:03,627 Speaker 3: two young kids at hundred and forty come filing in 211 00:10:03,707 --> 00:10:06,987 Speaker 3: and really hitting the wicket and getting up and jumping 212 00:10:06,987 --> 00:10:09,427 Speaker 3: about a bit. But that's only one little thing. And 213 00:10:09,427 --> 00:10:11,507 Speaker 3: I would have actually taken a spinner in this particular 214 00:10:11,547 --> 00:10:13,307 Speaker 3: test as well. I don't think the idea of four 215 00:10:13,387 --> 00:10:17,027 Speaker 3: quicks is is probably the answer. But everyone's got an opinion. 216 00:10:17,027 --> 00:10:19,587 Speaker 3: And yeah, you asked a question, I just gave your mind. 217 00:10:19,667 --> 00:10:21,187 Speaker 2: No, it's good now. I think you've been reading the 218 00:10:21,227 --> 00:10:24,187 Speaker 2: notes of many of our audience as well. Steve just 219 00:10:23,587 --> 00:10:26,947 Speaker 2: on Tom. Just on Tom Blundell. He's come under pressure 220 00:10:26,987 --> 00:10:28,827 Speaker 2: for his lean trot with the bat. But what have 221 00:10:28,907 --> 00:10:32,227 Speaker 2: you made of Tom Blundle's wicket keeping and Red Bull cricket. 222 00:10:33,547 --> 00:10:35,947 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen a bit of Tom and over the 223 00:10:35,987 --> 00:10:38,667 Speaker 3: years I've been quite impressed. It's probably dropped off the 224 00:10:38,707 --> 00:10:41,467 Speaker 3: pace a little bit at the moment, and he did 225 00:10:41,507 --> 00:10:44,947 Speaker 3: take with catch this morning to remove route, so I 226 00:10:44,947 --> 00:10:47,107 Speaker 3: can't take too much away from that. But yeah, Tom, 227 00:10:47,147 --> 00:10:49,987 Speaker 3: Tom will be right. He should chose the soldier, and 228 00:10:50,027 --> 00:10:51,427 Speaker 3: you've got to you got to stick with him. You 229 00:10:51,467 --> 00:10:53,107 Speaker 3: can't just pop them in and out. And just because 230 00:10:53,107 --> 00:10:55,267 Speaker 3: they haven't scored a few runs. He will. He's a 231 00:10:55,347 --> 00:10:57,347 Speaker 3: very very good bat and they're damaging back. He's the 232 00:10:57,387 --> 00:10:59,667 Speaker 3: sort of player that's going to change the direction of 233 00:10:59,707 --> 00:11:01,907 Speaker 3: the game. So you've just got to stick with Tom 234 00:11:01,907 --> 00:11:04,147 Speaker 3: for the minute. And I don't know the who else 235 00:11:04,227 --> 00:11:06,467 Speaker 3: is around the place, but what I do know is 236 00:11:06,907 --> 00:11:08,867 Speaker 3: is good enough to hold his spot and should be 237 00:11:08,907 --> 00:11:09,507 Speaker 3: given that right. 238 00:11:09,827 --> 00:11:12,267 Speaker 2: All right, just to finish, Steve New Zealand have just 239 00:11:12,267 --> 00:11:15,747 Speaker 2: lost these second wicket thirty for two, chasing five eighty three. 240 00:11:15,907 --> 00:11:18,627 Speaker 2: So look, it's a massive mountain to climb. If you 241 00:11:18,707 --> 00:11:22,427 Speaker 2: were in that dressing room addressing the players who still 242 00:11:22,427 --> 00:11:24,027 Speaker 2: have to bat over the next hopefully to in a 243 00:11:24,027 --> 00:11:25,427 Speaker 2: but days, what would your messages be. 244 00:11:26,867 --> 00:11:30,147 Speaker 3: Oh, basically, just formulate, formulator, do some partnership. Just get 245 00:11:30,147 --> 00:11:33,707 Speaker 3: one partnership going. Once you've got one partnership, you're taking 246 00:11:33,747 --> 00:11:36,667 Speaker 3: the quicks down. You're slowly, slowly changing the pattern bat 247 00:11:36,667 --> 00:11:39,067 Speaker 3: too where you needed to be, and that makes life 248 00:11:39,107 --> 00:11:41,067 Speaker 3: so much e asier for everyone else. But when you're 249 00:11:41,107 --> 00:11:42,787 Speaker 3: losing two and three out front, it makes it like 250 00:11:43,347 --> 00:11:46,027 Speaker 3: extremely difficult. You need to be you need to be 251 00:11:46,067 --> 00:11:48,987 Speaker 3: still positive. But at the same time, just once you've 252 00:11:48,987 --> 00:11:51,987 Speaker 3: got a partnership of twenty forty sixty, turn that endo 253 00:11:51,987 --> 00:11:53,467 Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty and then all of a sudden, 254 00:11:53,507 --> 00:11:55,347 Speaker 3: the game, the look of the game, the feel of 255 00:11:55,347 --> 00:11:58,187 Speaker 3: the game, the opposition all look a little bit jaded, 256 00:11:58,227 --> 00:12:01,427 Speaker 3: and the game the game looks once they reachable got 257 00:12:01,467 --> 00:12:04,107 Speaker 3: five five seventy five eighty. Whatever they're chasing is is 258 00:12:04,147 --> 00:12:07,307 Speaker 3: not really going to happen. But you do need pride 259 00:12:07,347 --> 00:12:10,387 Speaker 3: and you do need some confidence going into the next test. 260 00:12:10,467 --> 00:12:12,547 Speaker 3: So whatever you take out of this is going to 261 00:12:12,667 --> 00:12:15,387 Speaker 3: transfer into the next test. And I used the example 262 00:12:15,387 --> 00:12:18,347 Speaker 3: the other day with Lavashine has been so sadly had 263 00:12:18,387 --> 00:12:20,947 Speaker 3: a form over in Australia and I just said, well, 264 00:12:21,147 --> 00:12:24,387 Speaker 3: in that situation, don't give him ten more net sessions. 265 00:12:24,867 --> 00:12:27,947 Speaker 3: Give him one one innings against the Prime Minister's game 266 00:12:28,187 --> 00:12:30,147 Speaker 3: to get it right. Don't care who you got out 267 00:12:30,147 --> 00:12:31,867 Speaker 3: of the side. This is about getting your best dashal 268 00:12:31,947 --> 00:12:34,827 Speaker 3: side prepared and he should have gone gone back and 269 00:12:34,867 --> 00:12:38,147 Speaker 3: done that, so fair playing got some months this innings, 270 00:12:38,147 --> 00:12:40,827 Speaker 3: but it's the same sort of principle, Steve. 271 00:12:40,907 --> 00:12:43,067 Speaker 2: It's been so great to Jetty. I'm so glad you 272 00:12:43,107 --> 00:12:45,107 Speaker 2: had a great time over the side of the safe 273 00:12:45,147 --> 00:12:47,107 Speaker 2: travels home and thanks for taking our call this. 274 00:12:47,067 --> 00:12:50,267 Speaker 3: Afternoon, No iris, j I'll suspect you now. 275 00:12:50,307 --> 00:12:51,787 Speaker 2: Good to talk to you too, Steve. Thanks in date 276 00:12:51,827 --> 00:12:52,587 Speaker 2: Steve rixon. 277 00:12:52,427 --> 00:12:56,267 Speaker 1: There for more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. 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