1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Time for politics Wednesday, Mark Mitchell, Ginny Anderson with this 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: morning to both of you. 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 2: Good morning, Mike, what did you? 4 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 3: Good morning Mike, Good morning Mark, Now. 5 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 4: Paul Basha and Mark. 6 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 2: Yes, I did have a tear by. 7 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: I mean, for goodness sake, the guy that you know, 8 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: cops are famous for being basically in articulate, and this 9 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: guy comes on. I thought he was going to break 10 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: into a karaoke song or something. Where'd you get him from? 11 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: Well, he's he's the. 12 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 5: Guy that headed up the gang legislation to make sure 13 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 5: that it was implemented properly, that the police were aware of 14 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 5: what they could and couldn't do, and it was a 15 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 5: smooth scene, was sort of rollout. So he's very aware 16 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 5: of the outstanding work that our police officers are doing 17 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 5: in the gang space and hammering the gangs, and so 18 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 5: it was easy for him to sort of obviously come 19 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 5: on on your show and talk about it. 20 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's one thing to think something, but it's 21 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: another thing to articulate it. And I've just never heard 22 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: of cop that's that eloquence. So congratulations on wherever you 23 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: found him or did you find him? 24 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 4: Geny? Is he one of your selections. 25 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 3: Think he was Mark Fromon. I think he was district 26 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 3: commander in down South, is that right? 27 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? He was, he was down there. 28 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I met him when he was down South. Yes, 29 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 3: So he was just a commander of Southland and did 30 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 3: really good work on the resilience to organize crime. So 31 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 3: I went down there when I was minister and they 32 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 3: gave us a good look around that project. And yeah, 33 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 3: he's a he's a good guy. 34 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: Good now, Jenny very tempted to sing the praises the 35 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: work they were outstanding police officers doing, Mike, but I 36 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: know that I'll run run the time down. 37 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 4: He did it for you, Jenny. 38 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: You your question line yesterday to Chris Bushop, Did you 39 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: feel better about that? 40 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 3: I took your advice hopefully? Did you think it worked 41 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 3: a bit better? 42 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: No, there's no there's no If you did, thank you, 43 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: but there's no question it worked better yesterday. You worked 44 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: him harder. He was working hard and he was working 45 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: harder than he was the week before. 46 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 4: That's fair, isn't it. 47 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think so, I think it did go better. 48 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, who comes up with the Labor Party this question line? 49 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: Does the Prime Minister agree with Brian Smith, who says 50 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: the country. So if not, why not who comes up 51 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: with that? 52 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 3: Or just a range of people comes up with different 53 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 3: ways of putting things. And I think the trick is 54 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 3: as that's really hard to get a monasteretic of a 55 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 3: straight answer. So when you sort of get frustrated with that, 56 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 3: you just put them other people to used ministers to 57 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 3: see their reaction to you know, average keywis are not 58 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 3: happy with something, so you put that to them. 59 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: No, see what you did yesterday was short and it 60 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: was sharp and pinned them And so that I thought 61 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: worked well for you, not that you know, Chris Wall 62 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: think you know my advice, both of you. 63 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 5: So yeah, think you might think you're have to come back. 64 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 5: You have to use you as my consultant now as well? 65 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 4: Have you as a man of the world. 66 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: Mark running to Brook lately who seems to have never 67 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: been to a farm in her life and. 68 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 4: Eggs and scared of eggs? What's going on? 69 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: There? 70 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 5: Was someone that has always said that, you know, one 71 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 5: of the jobs I enjoyed most was I went farming 72 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 5: where I left school as a shepherd, and I just 73 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 5: always found that our farmers, rural people are so practical. 74 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: They're still packed full of that. 75 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 5: Kiwi Cobbins sense a numberak wide mentality. 76 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: Brook Brook looked. Brooklock looked awfully urban. Yesterday when she 77 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: was busy having no idea about egg collecting and stuff 78 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: like that. 79 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 4: Is are you guy? Do you talk about that in cabinet? 80 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: Like? 81 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: I know you can't talk about what comes in cabinet, 82 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: But apart from that, is that the sort. 83 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 4: Of idea that comes up in cabinet? 84 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,839 Speaker 1: And Brook goes, I tell you, what have you seen 85 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: that the egg situation? 86 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 4: I'm going to do something. 87 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: No picking up didn't come out keep it. 88 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 5: But look, I just want to say that, Look I'm 89 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 5: not that's her portfolio, that's who. I just wanted to 90 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,839 Speaker 5: say that she is doing some outstanding work, and she's 91 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 5: doing she's tackling difficult issues that the previous government we're 92 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 5: afraid of. 93 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: So she's actually doing some really good work. 94 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: To be fair, Jinny, you never tackled the eggs, did you? 95 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 3: I did. I'd be worried. She's got that lovely pink 96 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 3: coat on. I'd be afraid that she's worried in that. 97 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 3: I can't. I don't. I can't visualize book on a farm. 98 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: Okay, can I gave the numbers out Ginny earlier on 99 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: about the clamping over the weekend and the court find stuff. 100 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 4: It works. 101 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: So when you see something like that at work, they 102 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 1: pulled up a bunch of people. Most of them paid 103 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: on the spot, one didn't. They got their front that 104 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: car clamped and the rest have got payment plans. You 105 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: keep that, don't you. That's a good idea. 106 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: It seems like it's working well as long as it's 107 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: not taking away from frontline jods. That's my only concern. 108 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 3: If they can do it without costing police extra resource 109 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 3: to enforce them, and if it's getting fined back, then 110 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 3: it seems to be working well. 111 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 5: Okay a little bit playwave surcharges are going to support that, Well. 112 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 3: It depends on benefits from that. It's a good idea 113 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 3: in general, but it's a bit of a concern. A 114 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 3: lot of small business is my way, are worried that 115 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 3: it will just end up costing them more and then 116 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 3: they'll pass it on to consumers. So yeah, what a 117 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 3: good idea in general. 118 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 4: Why didn't you claim down on the banks mark? 119 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, the banks? 120 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 5: Well, this I mean, at the end of the day, 121 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,239 Speaker 5: this is this is clemping down the banks in terms 122 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 5: of it's sitting well Visa a master card. They both regulated. 123 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 5: That's where we're starting, and I think it's extremely positive. 124 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 5: It's going to provide complete transparency for consumers that the 125 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 5: chick out. 126 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: So yeah, so I. 127 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: Got to say labor to I got to say you 128 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: you would know this mark from the Rodney district. You 129 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: go to the country, most places don't have payway, never 130 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: have Yes, you mean in rural Yeah, and rural areas 131 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: they just you've got to stick out on the machine. 132 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 5: Well it's some do, but yes, it's not urban definitely, 133 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 5: without a doubt, you've far more likely to have access 134 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 5: to pay. 135 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: With exactly Mark the voting changes, of which there appears 136 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 1: to be an element of angst about, you know, disenfranchising 137 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: people and all that sort of stuff. I'm not as 138 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: interested in that as I am in an inability to 139 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: actually provide the service. So in other words, why can't 140 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: we turn up on the day and register because they 141 00:05:58,320 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: can't cope? 142 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 4: Why can't we cope? What's the matter with us? 143 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 5: Well, I mean that's that is an operational question for 144 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 5: the Electoral Commission. But fundamentally, I think that the approach 145 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 5: that we've taken is quite simply that if you are 146 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 5: serious about voting, if you take your vote seriously, then 147 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 5: it's all it requires a little bit of effort to 148 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 5: get yourself organized and get yourself out there registered before 149 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 5: voting day, because on RIT day it's if you have 150 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 5: a whole surge of people coming in. To think about it, 151 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 5: in any business, they're going to be overwhelmed. So unless 152 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 5: we have a huge cost and trying to meet that, 153 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 5: then it's to then delays the results on the election, 154 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 5: and we've. 155 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: Got Keiwi sitting around waiting for a government to before. 156 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: I follow the logic, Genny. I mean, I know you're something, 157 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: You're making some noise about it and stuff, but I mean, honestly, 158 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: you've got three years. You know you've got three years. 159 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: I mean, if you can't get yourself organized, do you, 160 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you probably don't deserve to vote, don't you 161 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: mean how hard is it? 162 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 3: Well, it's not just the enrolling and voting on the day, 163 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 3: it's the whole period of early voting. So I sort 164 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 3: of went an extra step further. So if someone turns 165 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 3: at in that period, if they've shifted house anywhere around 166 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 3: that time, it's largely going to mean they won't vote, 167 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 3: so you know, we reckon. It's about one hundred thousand 168 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 3: just on election day last time, but there will be 169 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 3: a huge greater number over that two week period where 170 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: for age or for moving or range of other reasons 171 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 3: I have to take they're not on. They're not. So 172 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 3: what I think happens is that if you've moved house 173 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 3: in the last few days and you turn up and 174 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: huts south to vote, but you're actually registered out in 175 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 3: Cumpody or Manna, you'll be able to get your party vote. 176 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 3: You can do that, but you won't be able to 177 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 3: vote for your local. 178 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 5: It's something as simple as called personal responsibility, and the 179 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 5: state cannot organized if all. 180 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: Of your personal affairs. So get organized. 181 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 5: If you value the vote, and we should value the 182 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 5: vote because this country has has bled a lot of 183 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 5: blood to have that vote, then get yourself organized, get 184 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 5: yourself registered, make the system run small and faster, allow 185 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 5: the results. 186 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 2: To be delivered. For Kiwi's earlier would you find agree 187 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: with that? 188 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 3: I agree with that. I agree with that, But that 189 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 3: when you're relying on New Zealand post and the postal system, 190 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 3: which is absolutely you know, antiquated, it doesn't work properly. 191 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 3: There are real issues with people getting their papers on 192 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 3: time and getting them to the right house. I mean, 193 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 3: I think that there's a certain obligation for the government 194 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 3: to make it easy as possible for people to participate 195 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 3: in democracy and to be able, but it does I'd 196 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 3: like to punish please, but it does seem like this 197 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,119 Speaker 3: government is making it harder for people. 198 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: To vote for the reason we're a bit hope, and 199 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: that's sadly the truth. 200 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 5: And I think Jilly's statement there about it's the government's 201 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 5: job to make life. 202 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 3: For everyone is enable people to vote. 203 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 5: No, that's that's what you said. And I think that 204 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 5: my view on this, it's my own personal view, is 205 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 5: that when you start turning over responsibility to the government 206 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 5: for everything in your life. 207 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 3: No, I did not say that, society don't put words 208 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 3: on now. 209 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 5: And you're on a race to mediocrity, So you know, 210 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 5: I don't agree with that at all, and I think that, well, 211 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 5: it puzzles me why there's such a debater ay on this. 212 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 5: If you want to use your right to vote, which 213 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 5: is a powerful thing everyone should be engaged in that, 214 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 5: do a little bit off it. 215 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 2: Organize your life. You're organized and value it. 216 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 3: When Judith Colin sounds the alarm you know something wrong. 217 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: Well yeah, but now hold on Jenny to be fair, 218 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: and we had her on on this. She did it 219 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: because of the She was being a lawyer about it, 220 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: because of the precedent that's been said. She was giving 221 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 1: a legal opinion on the law as opposed to being 222 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 1: a national party MP. 223 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 4: Would you flip it though? Would you flip it? 224 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 3: I'm not going to make decisions like that, But in 225 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 3: the past we have always made it trying to facilitate 226 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 3: increased participation in democracy. We always support that and we've 227 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 3: stood strong. So yes, we made and last time in 228 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: voting not only in the early voting phase but also 229 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 3: on election day to make sure everyone who wants to 230 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 3: can vote, not setting up obstacles to. 231 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 5: Prove, which to me is exactly what I'm talking about, Mike, 232 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 5: because what keeps happening in the government keeps making concession 233 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 5: up to concession, what ends up happening Ginny Ensen takes 234 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 5: the ballot papers around the people's houses, goes and there's 235 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 5: a cup of tea with them and gets them to vote. 236 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 5: I mean, that's where that's where you're going. Let's put 237 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 5: a line on the sad and say, if you genuinely 238 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 5: care about your country and you want to use your 239 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 5: vote because governance is important, put a little bit of 240 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 5: effort into it. 241 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 2: Get yourself enrolled. 242 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nice to see you both, Mark McGill, Ginny Anderson. 243 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 1: Back next Wednesday for. 244 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 2: More from The Mic Asking Breakfast. 245 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,239 Speaker 5: Listen live to news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, 246 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 5: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.