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Speaker 3: Balling and welcome Today. The Trademan is strong whether the

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Speaker 3: Scotti's Trump pull out actually means a lot, given our

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Speaker 3: number hasn't changed. Ricky Herbert on the coaching of the

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Speaker 3: in the commentary box, Richard Arnold, State Side, Steve Price

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Speaker 3: in Australia, Pasky Brand New Week Welcome to at seven

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Speaker 3: past six Trump, I tell you this for nothing. Trump

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Speaker 3: is in big trouble. How he ever thought tariffs were

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Speaker 3: an emergency, Lord only knows. He's been getting very bad advice,

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Speaker 3: not to mention the fact he couldn't see it himself.

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Speaker 3: What the Supreme Court did Saturday morning is hardly a surprise.

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Speaker 3: I mean, at six to three in a court that

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Speaker 3: conservative gives you an insight as to just how off

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Speaker 3: piece the Trump tarror program really was. He may be

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Speaker 3: able to get around at using other laws. They too

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Speaker 3: will be challenged. But on the same day the decision

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Speaker 3: came down, he got the us GDP read, which was shocking.

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Speaker 3: It was half what they thought it might be. Trump

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Speaker 3: whined about that as well. In fact, if you watched

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Speaker 3: his press is Saturday morning in the early hours, he

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Speaker 3: whined like a baby. Add also the report last week

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Speaker 3: that laid out in very clear terms that tariffs are

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Speaker 3: paid for by the American people, not rocket science, and

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Speaker 3: an idea well understood by a country like US that

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Speaker 3: is champion free trade for decades. But it may be

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Speaker 3: news to Americans who were basically lied to by their president.

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Speaker 3: So the money Trump had collected as now maybe maybe

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Speaker 3: not to be refunded. It certainly isn't paying for tax

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Speaker 3: cuts or the two thousand dollars checks to every American

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Speaker 3: he promised. And then we have the midterms. The midterms

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Speaker 3: were already an issue, they will be an even bigger

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Speaker 3: issue now because even if you subscribe to the idea

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Speaker 3: that America was getting rich off tariffs, that wasn't flowing

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Speaker 3: through to your average voter and gas lighting them the

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Speaker 3: way he has been is wearing very thin. Perhaps the

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Speaker 3: biggest part, and Trump pointed this out himself, was for

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Speaker 3: a while. Tariff's will leverage stop the war or old

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Speaker 3: TARIFFEW sell us your chips or old TARIFFEW do this,

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Speaker 3: do that, or else. That weapon is now nullified. The

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Speaker 3: President does not have the power he thinks he has,

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Speaker 3: and the Congress, which does it always has, may well

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Speaker 3: be about to get up ended later this year with

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Speaker 3: numbers that no longer favored the White House. If there

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Speaker 3: is a turning point in a presidency. Saturday morning, was it.

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Speaker 2: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 3: And just to bring up to speak generally, it's now

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Speaker 3: Sunday in America. Of course, they're expecting another blizzard in

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Speaker 3: the Northeast, which will disrupt travel. They've also shot a

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Speaker 3: bloke who decided wandering into Mari Lago with a gun

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Speaker 3: and some petrol was a good idea.

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Speaker 4: He put down the gas can, raised the shotgun to

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Speaker 4: a shooting position. At that point in time, the deputy

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Speaker 4: of the two Secret Service agents fired their weapons and

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Speaker 4: neutralized the threat.

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Speaker 3: They're also trying to work out what to do next

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Speaker 3: after Saturday scouts ruling vessins full of it.

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Speaker 5: The President announced on Friday and then amended over the weekend.

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Speaker 5: Fifteen percent global tariff using a very robust authority from

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Speaker 5: nineteen seventy four. We've been in contact with our foreign

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Speaker 5: training partners and they like the tariff deals.

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Speaker 3: They love them. Actually, on the broad subject of Trump,

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Speaker 3: how about Vitali Klitchko these days Mirra Kiev. Of course

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Speaker 3: you're ready for a pause of in a turmoil?

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Speaker 6: Do you trust President Trump? I tried to trust him.

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Speaker 3: Awesome. Then in Britain, you know what, it's old Andy.

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Speaker 7: We're not ruling anything out around this, but we have

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Speaker 7: obviously got a live police investigation underway, so we'll not

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Speaker 7: be setting out further steps until the police have been

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Speaker 7: able to do their work and wherever that investigation, wherever

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Speaker 7: the evidence takes them.

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Speaker 3: The formatory now reformer junerics into fame.

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Speaker 8: Andrew has disgraced the Royal family and he's disgraced our

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Speaker 8: country in the process. And whatever happens, whether he's ultimately

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Speaker 8: prosecuted or not, he should now just go off lead

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Speaker 8: a private life and allow the King and the rest

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Speaker 8: of the royal family to continue.

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Speaker 9: You doing it a good job that they do do

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Speaker 9: for it.

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Speaker 3: Even old Andrew Morton, remember him, He's weighed in. Could

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Speaker 3: be a.

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Speaker 10: Book in this crisis is I think does the lot

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Speaker 10: because there's no end in sight. There's no cutoff point

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Speaker 10: as there was with the abdication, as there was with

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Speaker 10: the change.

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Speaker 2: Of the family name.

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Speaker 10: This this will run belong for years.

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Speaker 3: Finally, news of Mother Earth mid year agent has found

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Speaker 3: that Earth's hum like Hartley, just picked up speed this month.

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Speaker 3: So it's known as the human resonance. It's an electromagnetic

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Speaker 3: frequency between the earth surface and the onosphere, created and

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Speaker 3: maintained by lightning strikes. This beating has been getting faster

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Speaker 3: this month, you United say, And here's how it affects us.

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Speaker 3: The Earth's rhythm affects our brain, weigh patterns, everything from

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Speaker 3: select concentration, this could this could throw off your neutral

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Speaker 3: or neural equilibrium. So the rhythm changes were put down

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Speaker 3: to the soul of flare. So that was the side.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's not in that, Yeah, that fourth quarter one

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Speaker 3: point four, they thought it would be two point five

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Speaker 3: GDP in America one point to course, we'll go through

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Speaker 3: with Greg in just a couple of moments. Inflation seems

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Speaker 3: to be under control. Not many places, but Japan's got

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Speaker 3: it under control one point five. It's had a run

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Speaker 3: of forty five straight months above the Bank of Japan's

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Speaker 3: two percent target, so it's finally back within target. So

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Speaker 3: I'm assuming they're happy. Twelve Plass six.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no one knows what's going to happen as one

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Speaker 3: hundred and thirty four billion dollars and that's just for

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Speaker 3: America and Americans three hundred thousand businesses, and no one

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Speaker 3: gets an answer, and they're asking, Believe me, no one

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Speaker 3: could get an answer as to I paid the tariffs

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Speaker 3: three hundred thousand different businesses, one hundred and thirty four

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Speaker 3: billion dollars. When do I get my check? So stand

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Speaker 3: by fifteen past six. You know, Greg Smith, good morning

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Speaker 3: to you. It's going to mess written all over it.

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Speaker 9: I mean big call, absolutely mess and still in state

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Speaker 9: of the flux.

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Speaker 11: As you say, Lots of unanswered questions, but obviously one

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Speaker 11: that we do have is that the Supreme Court decision

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Speaker 11: was pretty sort of comprehensive six to three. And obviously

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Speaker 11: Trump will be a bit pe that some people that

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Speaker 9: Their nose up against them. So yeah, pretty unhappy.

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Speaker 11: He was of course caught it deeply disappointing, and as

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Speaker 11: you've mentioned, he's pivoted pretty quickly. Ten percent global tariff

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Speaker 11: that's under section one two two the trade at nineteen

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Speaker 11: what can what happens beyond that, and as you mentioned,

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Speaker 11: refunds over one hundred and thirty billion potentially, And the

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Speaker 11: main thing was that the Supreme Court court was pretty

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Speaker 11: the lower.

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Speaker 9: Courts to decide.

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Speaker 11: So this process, I mean, who knows, it could that

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Speaker 11: years and certainly be very complex. We're pointing out there

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Speaker 11: are some tariffs that do remain in place, So you've

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Speaker 11: got steel, aluminium autos in the section one oh one

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Speaker 11: in relation to unfair trade pixes, so some of those

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Speaker 11: might continue to posts roll, and that includes tariffs on China,

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Speaker 9: A big but you look overall, I suppose a key

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Speaker 11: It is going to remove a potential head win for

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Speaker 11: inflation that could be relevant to use interrostraight decisions, and

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Speaker 11: markets saw gains on that news so that was positive,

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Speaker 11: but overall still very much a patchwork trade landscape would

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Speaker 11: be an understatement there, Mike's accommodation of old new tariffs

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Speaker 11: and a bit of uncertainly generally, So was it mean

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Speaker 11: for New Zealand? I think particularly for dairy wine, parts

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Speaker 11: Timber and lumber still captured potentially, So a bit of

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Speaker 11: messing this near, But yeah, I think certainly overall a

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Speaker 11: net win. That's what markets are saying, net win for

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Speaker 11: New Zealand as well. But he was terror posity certainly

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Speaker 11: remains unpredictable.

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Speaker 3: And then it happened literally at the same time he

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Speaker 11: He was pretty busy on the old social media on

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Speaker 11: the release that it was going to be bad, and

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Speaker 11: it certainly was. So, Yeah, the words are just comage

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Speaker 11: fourth quarter. It was almost half of what was forecast.

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Speaker 11: It was a huge miss when you think of that

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Speaker 11: Record breaking run in terms of length, and it ended

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Speaker 11: It took one percentage point from economic growth, said the officials,

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Speaker 11: Two point two percent, and that's down from two point

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Speaker 11: of part of the release Michaels as well was the

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Speaker 11: soft economy reason to tup further, but inflation sort of

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Speaker 11: So all pretty messy, tricky times for the Fed.

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Speaker 3: What about us in this trade deficite two point three billion.

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Speaker 3: Is that better and if it is materially better, and

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Speaker 3: how much has that got to do with the dollar?

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Speaker 9: Yes, look, yeah, certainly the dollar is effective.

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Speaker 11: But yeah, the more good news on Friday, and yeah,

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Speaker 11: being in the right direction for a lot of our exports.

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Speaker 11: So we had a fig and nineteen million good stuffs

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Speaker 11: in January. So exports are at two point six six

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Speaker 11: six point seven bill. But the annual deficit, so stripping

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Speaker 11: out averaging across months, that narrowed sharply to.

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Speaker 9: Two point three billion, So that was pretty good.

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Speaker 11: If you look at annual exports eighty point seven billion,

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Speaker 11: they were high there, solid momentum in the tradable sector

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Speaker 11: and dairy exports, notably my ingenuous softer we had milk,

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Speaker 11: powdered butter, and cheese. They were down one six four billion,

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Speaker 11: or six point six percent. But remember the first four

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Speaker 11: that's also pretty relevant to what Fonterra said on Friday.

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Speaker 11: For export sector MIC things are looking better. Yes, lower

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Speaker 3: a moment. Gregsmith out of Generate this morning, sky you've

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Speaker 3: four point two billion dollars to the economy, which equates

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Speaker 3: Mike, does the homeless law also cover the moving of beggars? Yes,

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Speaker 3: it does, Mike. Just back from a week in the

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Speaker 3: state's locals. Not happy, very expensive now in economies coming

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Speaker 3: The businesses paid the tariffs, Mike, so the consumers paid

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Speaker 3: The problem with that, I mean, I wouldn't rule anything

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Speaker 3: Interesting issue associated with these tariff refunds. They were never

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Speaker 3: nightmare to unpick. It was always going to be a nightmare.

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Speaker 3: In fact, Trump summed it up perfectly himself. He said,

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Speaker 3: Is this sad or inspiring? Tiger Woods's back sort of

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Speaker 12: And of course McElroy will defense, Scottie will be there.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have specific I just thought maybe someone though

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Speaker 13: Yeah, absolutely, I know a lot of people are playing.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad he got there in the end because

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Speaker 3: you go? You know what? I'm over it? Gian Carlo

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Speaker 3: would answer that question reasonably well, wouldn't he. What did

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Speaker 3: he say? I lost my shit? I mean, I love

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Speaker 1: The newsmakers and the personalities, the big names. Talk to Mike,

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Speaker 3: You just gave us a couple of those numbers. The

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Speaker 3: about that?

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Speaker 9: Is that? What we we doing?

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Speaker 3: Twenty three minutes away from seven the business are buying

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Speaker 3: and selling. Businesses in this country seems to be booming

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Speaker 3: what's the role of the economy at any given time

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Speaker 3: or does this sort of thing have a life of

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Speaker 16: Oh look, it's a bit of a combination of both.

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Speaker 16: Foot Well, I think you'll find reasoningly interesting is the

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Speaker 3: So if it wasn't for the South Island and farmers,

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Speaker 16: I'm not sure that's quite fair. Auckland, why Kadom and

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Speaker 3: We're seeing listings are down. Do we know why?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we do.

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Speaker 16: My it's a reasonably prominent trend. So in the last

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Speaker 16: two tough years. Our profitability is not where we want

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Speaker 16: Then we're going to come to market. Because obviously the

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Speaker 16: amount of profit your business makes has a direct correlation

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what about the categories and sectors? Who's doing well?

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Speaker 16: Interestingly enough, education, health and services are around for fifty

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Speaker 16: Those sorts of industries are really popular, especially childcare where

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Speaker 16: so that people get pretty comfortable they can go in

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Speaker 3: So yields are good in general. It yields up by

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Speaker 16: that's a yield of twenty eight percent on money invested

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Speaker 3: The average price, I notice eight hundred thousand dollars. Does

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Speaker 3: that tell us anything? I mean, what do you get

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Speaker 3: so you can buy a business size That's good, isn't it?

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Speaker 3: And do you break down the behart, I mean, how

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Speaker 3: many of these people have never bought a business in

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Speaker 3: These are just people who buy and sell businesses or

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Speaker 16: Yep, great, we do do that, So we do the demographics.

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Speaker 16: So about a third of purchases are people who already

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Speaker 16: You could argue say they've probably got a bit of

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Speaker 3: Exactly all right. Always good to have you on Chris

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Speaker 3: Chris Small, who's the ABC Business Meeting Director. It's a

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Speaker 3: It's a lovely story. Not only can a retirement village

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Speaker 3: They're still involved in the Bowls and the singing group.

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Speaker 3: Beautiful reminder that retirement isn't about slowing down, It's about

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Speaker 3: living well and staying open and embracing what comes next.

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Speaker 3: Now the article and you've got to read it because

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Speaker 3: it's lovely, it's uplifting apart from anything else. Love blossomed

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Speaker 3: in a retirement village. You can read it Marie and

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Speaker 3: Bob's story at our Vida dot co dot, he said,

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Speaker 3: inzaid Ford slash News, pasking Moon's off was going to

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Speaker 3: go March sixth I'll tell you more about that than

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Speaker 3: I'm sims. So hard. Isn't amazing We did it in

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Speaker 3: the sixties or did we?

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Speaker 15: Now?

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Speaker 3: We go to do it until twenty twenty. It's problematic.

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Speaker 1: Sixteen to two International correspondence with ENSI Eye Insurance Peace

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Speaker 1: of Mind for New Zealand Business in.

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Speaker 3: America Richard Arnold, morning to you good A gun and

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Speaker 3: a can.

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Speaker 14: Of petrol something like that. Yeah, very disturbing start to

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Speaker 14: what is going to be quite a week. It was

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Speaker 14: earlier this morning, one thirty when the secret server shot

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Speaker 14: and killed this twenty one year old North Carolina Austin

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Speaker 14: Tucker Martin, his family reported and missing just a few

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Speaker 14: days back, one relative saying the disappearance was quite not

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Speaker 14: like him. The FBI now is looking more deeply into

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Speaker 14: all of this course. As for what occurred, he was

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Speaker 14: able to drive his car through a gate the north

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Speaker 14: gate of the President's Florida mansion of Mary Lago, going

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Speaker 14: in when another person was exiting, which might raise some

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Speaker 14: security concerns, and then he was confronted by a Secret

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Speaker 14: Service agents, says the Palm Beach sheriff.

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Speaker 4: At one this morning, the security detail detected that a

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Speaker 4: individual had made his way into the inner perimeter of

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Speaker 4: Bar Lago.

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Speaker 14: As you say, he had with him a shotgun and

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Speaker 14: this gas canister, Sheriff Rick Bradshaw, saying that he was.

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Speaker 4: Ordered to drop those two pieces of equipment that he

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Speaker 4: had with them, at which time he put down the

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Speaker 4: gas can raised the shotgun to a shooting position. At

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Speaker 4: that point in time, the deputy and the two Secret

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Speaker 4: Service agents fired their weapons and neutralized the threat.

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Speaker 3: No Secret Service agent was hurt.

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Speaker 14: There was a box for the shotgun in this size car,

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Speaker 14: so it seems that he bought the weapon on his

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Speaker 14: way to Morrow Lago. President Trump wasn't there, neither was

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Speaker 14: the first lady. They'd remained at the White House. Even

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Speaker 14: though Trump often heads to Florida, on the weekends. The

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Speaker 14: president's pressade Karen Levitt is attacking Democrats. In her first

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Speaker 14: comments about all of this, she wrote, in the middle

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Speaker 14: of the night, when most Americans were asleep, the United

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Speaker 14: States Secret Service acted quickly and decisively to neutralize a

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Speaker 14: crazy person armed with a gun and a gas canister.

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Speaker 14: She goes on, it's shameful and reckless that Democrats have

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Speaker 14: chosen to shut down some federal law enforcement. There is

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Speaker 14: a partial government shut down affecting homeland security is the

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Speaker 14: Dems are demanding change it the way that ICE immigration

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Speaker 14: agents are operating, and that means that many in the

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Speaker 14: Secret Service are doing their job without pay. The FBI

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Speaker 14: now is investigating the man's motive. There have, been, of course,

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Speaker 14: other incidents, the President surviving that assassination attempt in twenty

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Speaker 14: twenty four at the campaign Raleigh in Pennsylvania, then the

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Speaker 14: Secret Service arresting another man with a weapon hiding in

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Speaker 14: the bushes near his West Palm Beach golf club in

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Speaker 14: that same year.

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Speaker 3: Should we be checking letter boxes for refunds or what?

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Speaker 3: What's happening?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, don't hold your breath. Tariff turmoil would be the

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Speaker 14: headline as the trade Minister Todd McClay is saying uncertainty

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Speaker 14: of bounds, no kidding. Yeah, we've never seen the likes

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Speaker 14: of the Trump meltdown over his Supreme Court lost. Trump

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Speaker 14: is said to deliver his State of the Union address

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Speaker 14: this Wednesday, of your time with the Supreme Court justices

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Speaker 14: sitting right there, just you know, a couple of meters

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Speaker 14: in front of him. That'll be fun, won't it. He says,

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Speaker 14: now he doesn't care if they turn up or not.

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Speaker 14: And he slammed these six Court members who voted down

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Speaker 14: seventy percent of his tariff, saying they are illegal because

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Speaker 14: the tariff power overwhelmingly sits with the US Congress, and

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Speaker 14: the US government could own more than one hundred and

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Speaker 14: seventy five billion dollars in refunds to importers, with consumers

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Speaker 14: who also pay the tariff get anything back.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: Well, Trump lashed out specifically at two of the Supreme

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Speaker 14: Court justices he appointed, Neil Gorsich and Amy Coney Barrett,

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Speaker 14: after they voted with the majority on this. I'm ashamed

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Speaker 14: of certain members of the Court, absolutely shamed for not

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Speaker 14: having the courage to do what's right for our country.

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Speaker 14: Have we ever heard the likes of this from a

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Speaker 14: president about the Supreme Court can't recall it. Since then,

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Speaker 14: we've witnessed this roller coaster because the court decision undercuts

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Speaker 14: the central plank of Trump policy, affecting not only trade

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Speaker 14: but all aspects of foreign policy. After all, Trump said

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Speaker 14: over and over and over again, God for Tariff's.

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Speaker 2: My favorite word is tariff.

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Speaker 14: Tariff is the greatest thing that's happened to this country.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: So after the court slam, Trump announced that ten percent

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Speaker 14: hike in all global terroriffs. In a day on he

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Speaker 14: bumped that up to fifteen percent. But this US as

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Speaker 14: a ninety seventy four statute, as we've all been hearing

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Speaker 14: about now, one that allows only temporary tariffs in specific

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Speaker 14: situations for one hundred and fifty days, with any extension

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Speaker 14: requiring the approval of the Congress. So Trump's Trade Rep.

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Speaker 14: Jameson Grier, is out on the talk shows right now

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Speaker 14: trying to calm the waters.

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Speaker 17: We had to look at backup plans, and we found

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Speaker 17: ways to really reconstruct what we're doing now. It doesn't

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Speaker 17: have the same flexibility that the President had under the

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Speaker 17: previous authority that he was using, but he gives us

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Speaker 17: very durable.

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Speaker 14: Tools, durable tools. So far, the policy has been switching

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Speaker 14: on with daily. A lot was dependent on the huge

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Speaker 14: sums of tariff or consumer taxes that was pouring into

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Speaker 14: the treasury. That money supposedly designated for all kinds of stuff,

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Speaker 14: including paying down the debt, giving bonuses to everyday folks,

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Speaker 14: more money for the Pentagon, payouts to farmers who lost

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Speaker 14: their markets because of the original tariffs. New Zealand of

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Speaker 14: course seeking quite more information on how all this might

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Speaker 14: play out.

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Speaker 9: Information we'd all like to.

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Speaker 3: Have, yes, and thee we'll talk to our trade minister shortly.

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Speaker 3: Richie will see when's there Richard Arnold in the states

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Speaker 3: Port of Los Angeles, just to give you a and

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Speaker 3: this was pre the decision. Port of Los Angeles, largest

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Speaker 3: port in America. They called their result dismal because volumes

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Speaker 3: are down twelve percent, imports are down thirteen percent from January.

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Speaker 3: China's just that no one's doing business with China from

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Speaker 3: America at the moment, so they're in trouble. Then we

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Speaker 3: come to the Board of Peace, which is whey seven

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Speaker 3: billion dollars. And I was wondering, where did this money

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Speaker 3: come from the people who've given them mote. So the

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Speaker 3: deal was if you wanted to join the board, you

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Speaker 3: got invited. We were invited. We turned it down. If

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Speaker 3: you wanted to hang around a while, you paid them

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Speaker 3: a billion dollars. So they've raised a billion dollars or

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Speaker 3: seven billion dollars. Guess who's given it. Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, the UAE, Morocco, Bahrain, Bahrain, Qatar,

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Speaker 3: Saudi Arabia, is Bekistan and Kuwait. Weird group ten to seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vida Retirement Communities News

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Speaker 1: togs had been.

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Speaker 3: The other thing that the US did over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: The Energy chief guy called Chris Wright said the US

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Speaker 3: could quit the International Energy Agency. So they're firing off,

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Speaker 3: you know, the usual array of threats. So NASA wanted

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Speaker 3: to go to the moon March sixth, which is not

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Speaker 3: that far away. They were going to send people there.

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Speaker 3: So that was going to be significant because we did

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Speaker 3: that many many decades ago and we were going to

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Speaker 3: do it again. But they can't seem to get it

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Speaker 3: off the ground, which strikes me as just weird. I

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Speaker 3: would have thought that the ensuing gap between the late

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Speaker 3: sixties and today would have seen the ability for us

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Speaker 3: to do something in space get easier and easier and easier.

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Speaker 3: They can't even fill the thing up with fuel hydrogen fuel.

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Speaker 3: They had leaks all over the place as artemis, of course,

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Speaker 3: and then they try to fuel it again. It sort

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Speaker 3: of worked, and then it didn't work. And so for

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Speaker 3: now March sixth is off. So all these years later,

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Speaker 3: no easier to get to the moon five minutes away

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Speaker 3: from seven.

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Speaker 2: All the inns are the outs.

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Speaker 1: It's the fiz with business faber take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level, which will.

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Speaker 3: Lead you to believe that, you know, building a hotel

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Speaker 3: there and living there and going on holidays. You know,

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Speaker 3: still a we weigh off.

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Speaker 9: Ah.

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Speaker 3: Now, peanut butter pay riser you heard of those so

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Speaker 3: payscales pay increase Preview report has looked at thirty five

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Speaker 3: hundred organizations globally, many of them Americans, so this might

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Speaker 3: have an American slant to it forty eight percent let's

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Speaker 3: call it half of them. So they're going to give

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Speaker 3: out pay increases based on performance, But an increasing number

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Speaker 3: are looking at what's known as these peanut butter pay rises,

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Speaker 3: and that is because what are they call them peanut

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Speaker 3: butter because it's even and spread thin, like peanut butter

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Speaker 3: would be on a sandwich. So in other words, everyone

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Speaker 3: gets it and gets the same amount. One of the

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Speaker 3: more famous examples, Starbucks gave all their corporate employees the

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Speaker 3: two percent riots in an effort to reduce costs. So

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Speaker 3: in this report, what we found nine percent of organizations

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Speaker 3: give out pay rises equally, it doesn't matter whether you're

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Speaker 3: any good or not sixteen percent, So they were going

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Speaker 3: to be implementing that particular approach this year, which is worrying,

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Speaker 3: and eighteen percent say they were strongly considering it now. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: career experts were surprised at this because what happens is

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Speaker 3: that if you happen to be really good at what

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Speaker 3: you do and you get the same as the dofist

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Speaker 3: next to you, guess where you're going. You're going to

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Speaker 3: the people down the road who are going to pay

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Speaker 3: you some proper money. So I don't know how long

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Speaker 3: that's going to last. Yeah, Tom McLay, Jamison Greer, Richard

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Speaker 3: mentioned jameson Greer. As far as they can work out,

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Speaker 3: Jamison's he's serious people, and he's the guy that Todd

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Speaker 3: McClay deals with in terms of the Americans, And every

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Speaker 3: time Todd's been on the program, he's mentioned Jamison before.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know whether Jamison's a s serious person

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Speaker 3: pretending to be serious, or he wasn't serious in the

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Speaker 3: first place because he's wandering around with all these weird rules.

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Speaker 3: Now that Scotus has ruled the way he has, where

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Speaker 3: does that leave us? We were at fifteen percent largely,

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Speaker 3: so we're still at fifteen percent? So does anything change?

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Speaker 3: Does anyone have a clue what's going on? The Trade

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Speaker 3: Minister Tom McLean a couple of moments ahead of the

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Speaker 3: Prime Minister after seven thirty on the Mic Hosking Breakfast

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Speaker 3: There News talk.

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Speaker 1: Zby credible, compelling the breakfast show, you confess it's the

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Defender Embraced the Impossible News

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Speaker 1: Talks dea'd be.

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Speaker 3: Morning, seven past seven. So what do we make of

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Speaker 3: the Scots call and the presidential reaction? Ten percent turned

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Speaker 3: into fifteen percent for everyone within twenty four hours. Our

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Speaker 3: Trade Minister Tom mcclay's with us. Good morning. We can't

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Speaker 3: be surprised, can we mean? Trade was never an emergency?

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Speaker 15: Yeah?

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Speaker 18: And well that's right. I mean, there was indications from

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Speaker 18: the lower court this is where it was going to go.

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Speaker 18: Bit of speculation because the President had been talking about

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Speaker 18: his no nominations one of the Supreme Court. Overall, this

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Speaker 18: is good news and potentially good news for New Zealand exporters,

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Speaker 18: but we have seen them very quickly use another legal

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Speaker 18: mechanism to go ten percent and then a social media

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Speaker 18: announcement of fifteen percent. So for New Zealand exporters, probably

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Speaker 18: not too much has changed other than once again even

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Speaker 18: more uncertainty.

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Speaker 3: So we were already at fifteen right.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, fifteen percent. Except for some things, it becomes more

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Speaker 18: and more complicated. You remember a few months ago for

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Speaker 18: beef and keying for a number of other products, he

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Speaker 18: dropped down to zero MFN because of shortages in the

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Speaker 18: US market. So we think that remains, but there's not

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Speaker 18: the detail yet. That fifteen percent was a true social announcement,

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Speaker 18: and I guess that the order will be signed this

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Speaker 18: week and they we'll have to get to the detail.

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Speaker 18: But in essence, as I said, except for you know,

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Speaker 18: even more uncertainty, probably not too much has changed for

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Speaker 18: New Zealand exporters at the stage.

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Speaker 3: As Jameson Greer a serious person. Should we listen to him?

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Speaker 2: That?

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Speaker 3: He struck me as serious and I I mean, how

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Speaker 3: do you deal with something like this if you've got

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Speaker 3: a president doing what he's doing.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, he is very serious. I've had a number of

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Speaker 18: meetings with him now and calls. He was involved in

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Speaker 18: the administration last time around as Deputy Trade Minister. I

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Speaker 18: suppose you would call it. He's playing quite.

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Speaker 15: A big role.

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Speaker 18: He's doing some of the big negotiations for the president. Look,

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Speaker 18: as with everybody, he's got a job to do and

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Speaker 18: he does it very very well. What we're doing at

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Speaker 18: the moment is getting again as much information as we

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Speaker 18: can so exporters can be informed. The other important bit

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Speaker 18: of this is you know a trade hasn't gone down

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Speaker 18: with the US, it has increased, and you know that's

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Speaker 18: just because the demand is still there. So we're going

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Speaker 18: to keep opening up trade. Of the ended deal as

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Speaker 18: an example, is not instead of America, but it gives

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Speaker 18: one more option to New Zealand exporters. If they think

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Speaker 18: there's too much risk of the US market or prices

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Speaker 18: are not good enough, as with the EU or the UK,

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Speaker 18: they can look towards India, and that's why it's so

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Speaker 18: important to get that over the line, so that all right,

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Speaker 18: so that we've got options.

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Speaker 3: Sure, let me come back to Indo your in a moment.

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Speaker 3: Do we are we owed? Will we chase a refund?

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Speaker 15: Well, that's going to have to be worked through.

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Speaker 18: I think there's a you know, I think there's going

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Speaker 18: to be a lot of legal cases over there at

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Speaker 18: the moment. You know, we'll be getting some advice and

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Speaker 18: talking to New Zealand exporters around that because the are

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Speaker 18: the ones that would have to sort of take a case, I.

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Speaker 15: Suppose, I think, Mike.

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Speaker 18: In the meantime, you know, we get the information people

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Speaker 18: keep exporting to that market and we're going to have

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Speaker 18: to see how it then folds just a little bit.

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Speaker 18: And that's because you know the nature of their teriff

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Speaker 18: right and their policies is going to keep changing.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of India, have you met O'Connor a year any closer?

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Speaker 18: Yep, Yes, I've met with I met with their side.

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Speaker 18: We had a very very constructive meeting. We've got a

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Speaker 18: couple of small questions that we're going through official still

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Speaker 18: and made available to them. We have made some progress,

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Speaker 18: although you know, they're going to sit down with their

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Speaker 18: caucus eventually. I've just made the case very clearly. This

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Speaker 18: is a very high quality agreement. It isn't the best

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Speaker 18: interest of New Zealand. It has similarity to ones that

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Speaker 18: you know the two main parties have always supported. It's

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Speaker 18: okay for them to want to know a bit more

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Speaker 18: of the detail, but we should put all of the

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Speaker 18: politics aside and just do what's best for New Zealand.

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Speaker 18: And you send a very clear signal to the business

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Speaker 18: community that the two major parties in Parliament back trade

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Speaker 18: and back then get it done.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate it very much. Tom McClay, who was the Trade

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Speaker 3: Minister with us this morning eleven minutes past seven. Our

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Speaker 3: government moved on the downtown issues. Of course at the

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Speaker 3: homelessness and the troubled move on orders will be issued

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Speaker 3: penalties two thousand dollars which seems ironic or three months

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Speaker 3: in jail. Steve what is the president of the Police

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Speaker 3: Association And as with us, Steve morning, Good morning Mike.

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Speaker 3: You've got some questions around this.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, absolutely, I think the issue for us is that

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Speaker 13: also acknowledge is a problem there for police, this is

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Speaker 13: yet another job they have to do with already stretch resources.

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Speaker 13: We simply don't have the men and woman power in

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Speaker 13: order to deal with this problem.

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Speaker 3: Don't you. I see cops walking downtown Auckland. It's one

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Speaker 3: of the great real leaf sites we've seen as a

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Speaker 3: result of the new government. If they're walking downtown Auckland,

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Speaker 3: why can't they simply move people on?

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Speaker 13: The reality of this situation is that these men and

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Speaker 13: women have a multitude of issues, Mike. So we're talking

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Speaker 13: about housing issues, mental health issues, financial issues. Police aren't

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Speaker 13: equipped and don't have the skills in order to deal

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Speaker 13: with those complex issues. Not to mention, as I say,

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Speaker 13: the resourcing problem.

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Speaker 3: Right, don't you take them to an agency that you

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Speaker 3: would have an agreement with already who deal with those

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Speaker 3: sort of things.

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Speaker 13: And that might be all very well in the biggest centers,

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Speaker 13: but not every place has those agencies that are available

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Speaker 13: in order for us to take them there. And then

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Speaker 13: there's a question of you know, do those agencies have

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Speaker 13: the capacity to deal with this increased problem.

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Speaker 3: Now when you say, but it is a big city

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Speaker 3: issue by in large, isn't it. We're talking Auckland, Wellington,

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Speaker 3: christ which buy in large.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, Yeah, what you're going to remember too, though, is

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Speaker 13: that if we're taking these people to another center and

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Speaker 13: agency who's dealing with your burglary, while that cops taking

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Speaker 13: a homeless person to know a social agency. We just

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Speaker 13: simply don't have those resources and it's the public that

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Speaker 13: are going to miss out when the cops don't turn

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Speaker 13: up to attend.

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Speaker 3: The burglar of the delayed Steve, you sound like you've

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Speaker 3: got a bad attitude.

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Speaker 13: No, not at all, no knowledge the problem.

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Speaker 3: I I mean, so this is the same just worries

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Speaker 3: me the public service in general, whatever the government says,

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Speaker 3: don't want to do it, No.

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Speaker 13: Not at all. It's about getting the right resource to

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Speaker 13: tackle the problem. And I appreciate please are that twenty

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Speaker 13: four to seven agency that always respond that gets things done.

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Speaker 13: But the reality is is we can't be the ambulance

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Speaker 13: at the bottom of the cliff every time.

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Speaker 17: What we have to do.

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Speaker 13: What we have to do is look at the problem

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Speaker 13: and determine what's the best resource to deal with it.

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Speaker 13: And i'd suggest in this case it's not police.

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Speaker 3: You sound like a social worker. If somebody is if

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Speaker 3: somebody is lying across the foot and abusing me because

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Speaker 3: they're high on drugs and they're causing a disturbance to

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Speaker 3: the peace and I can't open my business or I

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Speaker 3: can't go into a shop. That's your job, isn't it.

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Speaker 13: And when you talk about Summary Offenses Act, there's offenses

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Speaker 13: in there that we can deal with disorderly behavior. We

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Speaker 13: can arrest people for disorderly behavior. We can arrest people

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Speaker 13: for threatening behavior, offensive behavior, that's not an issue, and

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Speaker 13: we do that on a daily basis. That's not what

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Speaker 13: we're talking about here. We're talking about move on orders

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Speaker 13: from someone who hasn't committed an offense.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Steve, appreciate it. Steve, what Police Association president?

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Speaker 3: He's new about him? I'll talk to the Prime Minister

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Speaker 3: of about the primis has got a problem with us,

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Speaker 3: not just this, just generally. This goes back to the

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Speaker 3: moverification of the army last week. It seems that whatever

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Speaker 3: the government does, the public service pushback and go we

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Speaker 3: don't like that, or we don't want that, or they

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Speaker 3: just ignore it and don't do it anyway. Mike new

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Speaker 3: homeless laws in Auckland, CBD tell the moners opposing new

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Speaker 3: laws that leaving people to carry on is heartless and degrading,

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Speaker 3: not the laws. They're still there because they do nothing. Moners.

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Speaker 3: It is fourteen past.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll get your feedback on that in just a

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Speaker 3: couple of moments, Prime Minister after seven thirty seventeen past

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Speaker 3: Football Style, the Sporting Show over the weekend, and that

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Speaker 3: the Phoenix losing to Walkland. That's nothing new five milers though,

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Speaker 3: and so it's the resignation that followed g and Carlo

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Speaker 3: are Telliano's off. The team still has eight games. The

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Speaker 3: currently tenth former coach Ricky herberts with us on this

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Speaker 3: Ricky Morning.

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Speaker 15: Yes, good morning House, thanks very well.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, would this have been brewing for a while in

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Speaker 3: his mind or was this literally a one off? Do

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Speaker 3: you reckon?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 19: Good point. Actually difficult to know, you know, I think

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Speaker 19: sort of the context of the season, how it was going,

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Speaker 19: probably reflection on the previous season as well, But I think, yeah,

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Speaker 19: clearly the derby contest and the way that's gone since

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Speaker 19: Auckland's joined the league has been very challenging for the Phoenix.

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Speaker 19: So I guess, you know, giv you know, has taken

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Speaker 19: it on his chin and and he's reacted by you know,

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Speaker 19: stepping aside.

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Speaker 3: Does it solve anything?

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Speaker 19: Well, time will tell one it work. I think you

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Speaker 19: know what's what's right?

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Speaker 15: When do you go?

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Speaker 19: When's the right time to do that? And I think

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Speaker 19: that can only be a personal decision. I think he

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Speaker 19: very clearly felt it was time to step aside and

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Speaker 19: maybe have a breath of fresh air and somebody coming in,

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Speaker 19: maybe with some of your ideas and you structure around

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Speaker 19: the team.

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Speaker 3: But who would want it? I think who would want it?

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Speaker 3: And what could they do given this? You know, the

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Speaker 3: you're in the middle of the season.

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Speaker 19: Look, there's still eight games to go, and I think

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Speaker 19: you know that the season, in my opinion, is not

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Speaker 19: written off. You know, I think it's it's a crazy year.

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Speaker 19: I think a lot of teams are losing quite regularly

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Speaker 19: in the competition, so I think there's still everything to

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Speaker 19: play for. But you know, somebody'd have to step in

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Speaker 19: and turn it around immediately.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nice to talk to you, Rookie. Appreciate it. Ricky Herbert,

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Speaker 3: who's been there, had done that. Of course. Mike, I've

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Speaker 3: been an officer for a long time. Unfortunately, he does

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Speaker 3: sound like a complainer. Any tool we can have in

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Speaker 3: addition to those we already have, must and always will

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Speaker 3: be a help and not a hindrance. Why can't union

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Speaker 3: folk across any organization, particularly in government see it that way?

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Speaker 3: He's done himself a disservice in that conversation. And so say, well,

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Speaker 3: all of you seven.

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Speaker 3: I think we've all been there, having there sundays. You know,

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Speaker 3: even the little things get a little bit harder to

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Speaker 3: the morning, the low energy in the afternoon moments where

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Speaker 3: keeping up feels a little bit harder than it used to,

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882
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Speaker 3: by doing that, you'll say fifteen percent every time you

883
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Speaker 3: do business just like that fifteen percent? Why wouldn't you?

884
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Speaker 3: For goodness sake? Delivery options designed to suit every last style,

885
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Speaker 3: need and budget. So basically what you're doing there is

886
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Speaker 3: taking control of you well being. Read the label take

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890
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Speaker 3: it's taken a while. Let me let me put a

891
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 3: positive spin on this. I mean it's taken a while,

892
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 3: but we got there at last. These move on orders

893
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 3: clear lines of responsibility and delineation for the police who

894
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 3: want to to actually fix a problem that has existed

895
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 3: basically for far too long in our central city areas.

896
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 3: And as the debate bounces back and forth this week

897
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 3: and it's already started, have a look at those who

898
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 3: go where do they go? They asked that, because that's

899
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 3: the easy question to ask of course, it's the point

900
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 3: scoring question to ask. It's the question you ask when

901
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 3: you don't actually have to deal with the problem. The

902
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 3: previous government, he'll be one of the people asking that

903
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 3: particular question, stuck them in motels and ruined entire towns

904
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,479
Speaker 3: like Rotorua. They stuck them in social housing and ruined

905
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 3: entire neighborhoods. As the Agency Responsibleivic did exactly no one

906
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 3: despite anti social and off and criminal behavior and other words.

907
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 3: They gave greater priority to troubled menaces than they did

908
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 3: to whider society that simply wanted to get on with life. Downtowns,

909
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 3: whether you're Wellington, christ due to your Auckland need help,

910
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 3: and they've needed help for years. We were at lunch

911
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago, Central City for a birthday.

912
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 3: The drugged out woman screaming ahead off on the beach

913
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 3: outside the restaurant was doing her best to ruin everyone Saturday.

914
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 3: The music in the restaurant had to be turned up

915
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 3: so loud that you couldn't hear yourself talk. But what

916
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 3: was the right is supposed to do? What is any

917
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 3: business supposed to do when you have to step over

918
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 3: the down and out The drugged out and the violence

919
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 3: simply to unlock your door. The apologists paint these people

920
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 3: as harmless. They are not. They paint them as lost

921
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 3: and wayward.

922
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 9: They are not.

923
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 3: They are law breakers who cause disproportionate amounts of trouble

924
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 3: to people who don't deserve it as a result of

925
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 3: an apologist's mentality. No one has known what to do.

926
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 3: But let me tell you this, But like retail crime

927
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 3: and Yaris's through windows a few years back, you remember

928
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 3: all of that. Toughen up those laws and you will

929
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 3: be amazed how quickly the problem gets solved. Asking Mike,

930
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 3: I work for the government the last election year, one

931
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 3: hundred percent correct about the attitude of most public servants.

932
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 3: The authority I worked out had to be reminded weekly

933
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 3: not to use our teams for anti government chat. They

934
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 3: found weak loopholes for many of the cultural policies. Often

935
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 3: the reminder was given in a way that made it

936
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 3: clear that management agreed. It was disgraceful, Mike on the

937
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Speaker 3: button with the public servants. It's been the case evidence

938
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Speaker 3: the Prime Minister. God In, I know a young bloke

939
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Speaker 3: who's at the industry of education. He says, all of

940
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 3: the ideas will never happen. Mike, Where did the police

941
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Speaker 3: get Steve from?

942
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Speaker 15: To?

943
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 3: Who he a Comm's team? What Steve sounds like he

944
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 3: doesn't want the police to police. God Almighty, Mike, you're

945
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 3: on the button. Police Association apologist, Mike remove on orders. Excuses, excuses, excuses,

946
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 3: always more people, more money, more bureaucracy. Who the hell

947
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 3: is Steve a union agitator? Well, of course he's a

948
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 3: union ed to day the Police Association. Just because that

949
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 3: because they call themselves an association doesn't mean they're not

950
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 3: a union. That's exactly what they are. A couple of

951
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 3: interesting things to read that I'll may be raised with

952
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 3: the Prime Minister. One was Roger Partridge's piece last week

953
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 3: on the LNG business. The LNG terminal is not the

954
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 3: government's preferred energy policy. It is the consequences of its predecessors,

955
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 3: and then that's the problem. And then a very good

956
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 3: line from the piece you should read from Jamie Gray

957
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 3: over the weekend and the Herald about power. The rate

958
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 3: of construction of new power plants is higher than even

959
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 3: during the I think big period of the seventies and eighties.

960
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 3: So yes, they're making profits. But if you don't think

961
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 3: a lot of that money is being plowed back into

962
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 3: new stuff to solve us or save us from the

963
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 3: winter of twenty twenty four. Repeating itself. I thought there

964
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 3: was an interesting line because many of us think back

965
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 3: to the seventies and the eighties and Bill Birch and

966
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Speaker 3: think big. But we are doing bigger than we ever have,

967
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 3: so that's encouraging. Anyway, more on this with the Prime

968
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 3: Minister after the News, which is next on the mic Hosking.

969
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 2: Breakfast No fluff, just facts and fierce debate.

970
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: The mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate altogether better

971
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: across residential, commercial and rural news talks had been twenty.

972
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 3: Three minutes away from Ade Monday morning. The Prime Minister

973
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 3: is with us spring good morning to you when it

974
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 3: might get deal with there. So the tray we had

975
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 3: Tom McLay on before, I don't know that you can

976
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 3: add much more than what he had. Do you have

977
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 3: any idea of what's going on? My more specific question

978
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 3: on that is, if it's fifteen percent for everyone and everything,

979
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 3: our beef's then in trouble, hasn't it given it sits

980
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 3: the small at zero.

981
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 20: As I understood it late last night our beef is

982
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 20: sitting outside of all of that. So beef and horticulture

983
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 20: and kiwi fruit which got the concession. As you know,

984
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 20: it's about thirty percent of our trade into the US

985
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 20: is actually still exempt from that as I understood it.

986
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 3: But it's a pretty fluid situation.

987
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 20: As you're saying, everyone's navigating a series of posts and

988
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 20: social media posts.

989
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 3: It'll play out.

990
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 20: But the good thing is, Mike, our exporters into the

991
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 20: US have been dealing with fifteen percent for the last year,

992
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 20: and it's growing at four to five percent in the

993
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 20: last year. And that this is when we talk about

994
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 20: in Indian FTA. This is why we're quite serious about it.

995
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 20: It's about creating optionality in India and the Middle East

996
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 20: and the UAE and Europe and UK and China and

997
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 20: Southeast Asia and our exporters. I was with twelve of

998
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 20: them on Friday for about two hours and just an

999
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 20: around tables, and I've seen it offshore. They've got so

1000
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 20: experted actually now moving. If I can't make money in America,

1001
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 20: no ras, I'll move it to the Europe, I'll move

1002
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 20: it to China, I'll move it to somewhere else.

1003
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 3: Okay, So as you understand it. This morning, we're no

1004
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 3: worse off than we were, still at zero and fifteen

1005
00:45:58,640 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 3: as I understand, is what we have.

1006
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 20: We need to understand the detail and it's pretty fluid,

1007
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 20: but the key thing is and we'll keep monitoring it closely,

1008
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 20: but until we see how it shakes down. I mean,

1009
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 20: as I understand, under the new law, the fifteen percent's

1010
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,720
Speaker 20: only valid for one hundred and fifty days under that legislation,

1011
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 20: anyone got to do something else.

1012
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 3: And then we come to McClay seemed upbeat, he'd met

1013
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 3: O'Connor and Labor seem to be okay on India. Is

1014
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 3: that your understanding of it?

1015
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, it a little bit I would expect.

1016
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 20: So you know, I know they met last week. He

1017
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 20: has actually been talking with Damian O'Connor over the course

1018
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 20: of this Indian FTA. And you've got to remember those

1019
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 20: two guys have actually been trade ministers for the last

1020
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 20: eleven years or so in New Zealander, the two of them,

1021
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 20: so they understand the issues pretty well. I think we'll

1022
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:38,959
Speaker 20: get to a very sensible place.

1023
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 3: Okay, what's gone wrong with the sur charge law?

1024
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 15: Oh?

1025
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 3: Look, two things there.

1026
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 20: One is we introduced it into there's a change from

1027
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 20: the Commerce Commission around interchange rates that Visa and MasterCard

1028
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 20: can charge, and that came into effect on the first

1029
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 20: of December. We want to see that flow through to

1030
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 20: the consumer. And the second thing is we had a

1031
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 20: first reading, it goes to a slept committee where the

1032
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 20: public and everybody gets this consult on it, and there

1033
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 20: was actually quite a lot of fee back that we

1034
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 20: need to properly digest and understand before we push the button. Well,

1035
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 20: we just want to make sure we understand it, I mean,

1036
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 20: because that's the whole point of the legius of a

1037
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 20: select committee process. As a legislation gets better as it goes.

1038
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 3: Through always sometimes well sometimes it is.

1039
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 20: But but the theory as you go from first reading

1040
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 20: and then you have public consultation, and then you get

1041
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 20: a second reading, and then you get another go and

1042
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 20: then you get a third reading, it gets.

1043
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 3: But you're between a rock and a hard place, aren't you,

1044
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 3: Because I mean, the public would go, yes, I don't

1045
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 3: want to make the charge, but the small business person's going, well,

1046
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 3: hold on, who the hell pays that?

1047
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 20: Well, it is the small business guys that I actually

1048
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 20: just do want to make sure we understand what the

1049
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 20: implications of that actually are. And the first bit is

1050
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 20: like the interchange fee is quite significant, you know, like

1051
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 20: that's actually a Commerce Commission ruling, which is really good.

1052
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 20: Let's see, I want to see the retailers pass that

1053
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 20: through though to the consumer. You know, it's really important

1054
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 20: they do that because I've got a.

1055
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 3: Lower Cokay, So is this on the never never? We

1056
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 3: can forget this until after the election.

1057
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 20: Now, it's genuinely is just to digest all that feedback.

1058
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 20: Have we understood all the implications of what we're doing

1059
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 20: and we're not going to cause unintended consequences. I'd sooner

1060
00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 20: do it now than have to fix it up on

1061
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 20: the other side if we've got something wrong, and Simpson

1062
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 20: will take that away and It'scott Simson and will work

1063
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 20: as way through that in good course.

1064
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 3: So dovetail that. And with Chris Bishop's speech last week

1065
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 3: on the Auckland housing scenario, is this a government in

1066
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 3: election year who does suddenly a bit of panic or

1067
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 3: is it you're listening or it's chinking about it locally

1068
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 3: in the first place? No, no, no, like housing.

1069
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 20: The housing thing was actually again you should listen, right,

1070
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 20: and I don't I don't get the big I said

1071
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 20: this even before I came to politics. I never understand

1072
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 20: why if you've got it wrong, we haven't got it perfect,

1073
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 20: and you can optimize it and get it better, why

1074
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 20: wouldn't you make that correction and actually deal with that

1075
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 20: on the housing thing, you know, genuinely. So there are

1076
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 20: people in Auckland sitting out in East Auckland and Packaranga

1077
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 20: and you know, lots of suburbs in New Zealand Auckland

1078
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 20: saying well, why the hell are we having densification happening

1079
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 20: here in the suburbs when there's no transport hubs to

1080
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 20: get anywhere. You know, like, do it over the transport hubs,

1081
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 20: do it over the town centers, do it in the CBD,

1082
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 20: do it above the CRL absolutely, just like Sydney did

1083
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 20: in the nineties. But why are we doing out here

1084
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 20: in the burbs? And so you know, that's genuine sure feedback,

1085
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 20: and that's the reason you have this consultation and either

1086
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 20: you listen to it or you don't.

1087
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 3: Why couldn't you see that in the first place. That's

1088
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Speaker 3: the fascinating thing for me because I'm in the market

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Speaker 3: and I go to a house now and We went

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Speaker 3: to a house last week and the question everyone asks

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Speaker 3: in Auckland is see that dump next door? What's happening

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Speaker 3: to that? And the answer is no, one knows, could

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Speaker 3: be eleven stories, could be nothing. So guess what, No

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00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 3: one buys the house. So you killed the market. Now,

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Speaker 3: why couldn't you see that?

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Speaker 9: Well?

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Speaker 20: No, What we have to do is one of the

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Speaker 20: challenges we've had. You know, you think about probably price

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Speaker 20: went up thirty percent in a year, totally utterly unsustainable.

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Speaker 20: Think about young people not being able to get into housing,

1101
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 20: you know, feeling very frustrated about all of that. So

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Speaker 20: you've got to do what other countries do around the world.

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Speaker 20: And you know, Singapore does it over fifty year period.

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Speaker 20: We're doing it over a thirty year period, saying look,

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Speaker 20: this is the capacity of it.

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Speaker 3: You did it by saying two million, and you just

1107
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Speaker 3: freacked everyone out.

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Speaker 20: Yeah no, and I get that, I understand that. But

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00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 20: that's a capacity thing over thirty years. About knowing where,

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Speaker 20: Because here's what's happening, right, you know, farmer selles land.

1111
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 20: Land goes up fifteen times as it gets rezoned, as

1112
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Speaker 20: residential subdivision gets plopped in. No one knows where the

1113
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 20: hell the schools are going, where the hospital's going. The

1114
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 20: roads aren't wide enough by the time, there's not enough

1115
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Speaker 20: parking in the houses or in the buildings, and so

1116
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Speaker 20: as a result, the cars are on the street. You

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Speaker 20: can't get appliances down some of the streets in my

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Speaker 20: area in Flatbush, for example, where there's been a massive expansion.

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Speaker 20: So we've got to get much better at master planning

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Speaker 20: and knowing where the growth is going to come from

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Speaker 20: over time, and that's where that capacity plan comes from.

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Speaker 20: It's not the sheer number of houses that would suggest

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Speaker 20: the six million people coming into Auckland in the next

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Speaker 20: thirty years.

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Speaker 3: So it wasn't explained in a way that the factoring

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Speaker 3: back down. You blew it and you freak people out.

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Speaker 3: And that's the only bit that surprised me that a

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Speaker 3: guy from the HUT was telling Auckland how to run

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Speaker 3: their property market, which wasn't the smartest moved politically.

1130
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Speaker 20: And yeah, all I can say is we listened and

1131
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 20: we made the changes. And importantly now it's back with

1132
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Speaker 20: the council to say densifying the CBD and the transport

1133
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Speaker 20: hubs take it out and that reduction and capacity should

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Speaker 20: mean all that intense fashion, someone goes away.

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Speaker 3: We have the police Association on in the last time

1136
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 3: I found moaning about these move on orders. How much

1137
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 3: pushback do you think you're going going to get from

1138
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 3: people who, for whatever reason don't believe downtown Auckland and

1139
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,760
Speaker 3: Wellington and christ Church needs addressing.

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Speaker 20: Oh, I'm sure we'll get a lot. I mean, we've

1141
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 20: got a lot on gang patch bands too, do you

1142
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 20: know what I mean? I had everyone for a year

1143
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 20: and a half saying this is going to be operationally

1144
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 20: impossible to do. How you're gonna deal with it? Remember

1145
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 20: all the questions we got leading into that one, and

1146
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 20: the police really thought through their response. They got protocols

1147
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 20: in place, the frontline dealt author and within the first

1148
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 20: three seven minutes of the law being passed they had

1149
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 20: their first arrest. So we've got time between now and

1150
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,280
Speaker 20: when this becomes law. Police will work up their protocols

1151
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 20: and how they deal with it. Every situation, actually in

1152
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 20: that situation and the CBD is very different, each individual's different.

1153
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 20: So yes, there will be move on orders. I think

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00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 20: that's important, But you have no.

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Speaker 3: Doubt that because the thing I'm picking up increasingly, here's

1156
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 3: attitude so it's one thing to say you're going to

1157
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 3: do something or you should do something. But I mean,

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00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 3: if you listen to the police association, he's got no

1159
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Speaker 3: intention of moving anybody.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, we'll notice. Respect, I don't you know. I don't

1161
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 20: take advice from people. Yeah, I'm not taking offense from

1162
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 20: that up because take advice from him. But I mean,

1163
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 20: I trust Richard Chambers. I trust our police when I

1164
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 20: talk to our frontline police. So I've been out with

1165
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 20: them on the beat. There's been a huge increase of

1166
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 20: police out on the beat. In fact, we've had a

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Speaker 20: thirty eight percent lowering of victimizations in Auckland, CBD just

1168
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Speaker 20: in the last twelve months by having police out on

1169
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 20: the beat, by putting a police station down in the city.

1170
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 20: The police want these powers. They know these shopkeepers, they

1171
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 20: know these individuals. In many cases, they have a wide

1172
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 20: set of circumstances. It's not just how we all stereotype

1173
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 20: them as folk that have mental health issues, addiction issues, whatever.

1174
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 20: There's a series of complications that are actually different by individual.

1175
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 20: The police will use their judgment and I want them

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Speaker 20: to have these tools.

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Speaker 3: But you have no doubt that this is because this

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00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 3: is retail politics. Isn't it the same way the economy

1179
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 3: affects the pocket walking downtown affixed people and when they

1180
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,240
Speaker 3: sybody's not fixed. Yeah, it's on you exactly.

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Speaker 15: I mean.

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Speaker 20: But the bigger issue is, like you know, Chuck and

1183
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 20: Mary coming in for their once in a lifetime trip

1184
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 20: to New Zealand on a cruise ship, walking around downtown

1185
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 20: Auckland getting intimidated because someone's standing on the door you know,

1186
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 20: is sitting on the doorstop of a shot they're trying

1187
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 20: to get into, threatening, shouting at them, abusing them. Right now,

1188
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 20: it doesn't trigger an a fence under you other other pieces.

1189
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Speaker 20: But by putting this in place, that helps. And you know,

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Speaker 20: we've got a massive investment in the international conventions here,

1191
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 20: We've got a massive investment in the CRL, We've got

1192
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Speaker 20: huge amount of cruise ships coming in. We want to

1193
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 20: make sure that you know, and it's not just our visitors,

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Speaker 20: it's actually residents and families and people out for dinners

1195
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Speaker 20: and you know, just the stories are unbelievable and this

1196
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 20: is New Zealands and this is and we can do

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Speaker 20: something about.

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Speaker 3: No one's arguing with you apart from the unionists. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: but that's normal, apologists. As long as it's going to

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00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 3: work is the key. Yes, yes, So on the broad

1201
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 3: thing then of the public service not listening to what

1202
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 3: you're saying, the army and the tea coming thing last week.

1203
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, it's outrage It's two years into

1204
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 3: your government and you're still discovering this nonsense. I thought

1205
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 3: you wanted to get rid of it. Why haven't you.

1206
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 20: Well, on that one, I have to say that was

1207
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 20: completely an absolute surprise and totally outrageous.

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Speaker 3: You know, a cultural.

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00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 20: Framework and knowledge of care is what determines your promotion

1210
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 20: essentially and in a military rather than your leadership. How

1211
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 20: you serve the country and and how you can fight.

1212
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 20: That's really what we really want that to be focused on.

1213
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 20: So Judith Collins got on to it. We've stopped it.

1214
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 20: They've paused it, you know, they.

1215
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Speaker 3: Go but an attitude problem within the public.

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Speaker 20: Well, it's a big change.

1217
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 3: We've got some things we're not two years on it

1218
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Speaker 3: isn't I mean, you know, in the pretty big system,

1219
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 3: pretty big system, you know.

1220
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 20: I have to say, in many cases people have got

1221
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 20: with the program. Some of the seas have been really

1222
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 20: outstanding and understand what we want to do and been

1223
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 20: actually very excited about wanting to get things done. Think

1224
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Speaker 20: about what we're doing on education, think about some of

1225
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 20: the stuff we've been doing an MPI, NZTE, you know, trade,

1226
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Speaker 20: all that stuff, investment. There's been some really great support

1227
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 20: coming from our officials there. But yeah, there's there's still

1228
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 20: there's still rumps of it that sort of don't like

1229
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 20: our government and don't like what we're doing. But when

1230
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 20: we see it, we call it out and we stop

1231
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 20: it and we fix it, and we have to often

1232
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 20: put a lot of sunlight on it like we're doing,

1233
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 20: because then we're doing we're sending a message very clearly

1234
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 20: back to the system, say hey, listen, focus on your

1235
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 20: core business and deliver for the public of he's inland.

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Speaker 3: Who are your customers?

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Speaker 15: You know?

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Speaker 3: Good to see if Christopher luxon Prime Minister thirteen to eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by the News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It be.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Mike Luxo sounded quite punchy this morning at last.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, he did.

1244
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 3: I forgot to ask him. He's already gone. But and

1245
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 3: I made a comment on the program last week. So

1246
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 3: if you go back to question Time on Wednesday. I

1247
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 3: think last week he was on fire. Other days he's

1248
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Speaker 3: not on fire. Today, last Wednesday was this morning seems up.

1249
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Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on, by the way, and

1250
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 3: I didn't have time to raise it with him, but

1251
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 3: do read it because it's not a bad idea. I

1252
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 3: don't know if it's Thomas Coglan's idea or he's taken

1253
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 3: the idea from somebody and sort of just ran it

1254
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 3: over the weekend. It's under the headline of policy that

1255
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 3: could win the election, and he goes through it to

1256
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 3: link the old piece sort of what Thomas does. Anyway,

1257
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Speaker 3: He explains that if you made a couple of smallish

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Speaker 3: adjustments to repayment methodology around student loans, and it wouldn't

1259
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Speaker 3: cost the government much because as you're reading the articule,

1260
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 3: you're going, oh, heah, what's the bill for this? But

1261
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 3: his argument is, and it's a good argument, and that

1262
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 3: is people on lower incomes already pay tax, and then

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00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,439
Speaker 3: extra tax is taken off if you're owing a student loan.

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Speaker 3: Hence the argument they all bugger off overseas. By the

1265
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 3: time you get to the end of the article, he

1266
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 3: reckons for a cost of eighty to ninety million dollars

1267
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Speaker 3: for the government, which is nothing. You could materially adjust

1268
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 3: what's owed on debt for students, saving them thousands individually

1269
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,760
Speaker 3: each year, and therefore maybe they wouldn't leave the country.

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Speaker 3: But look that up and read it. It's well worth

1271
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Speaker 3: at eight to eight.

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Speaker 2: So my costing breakfast with the defender and use togs

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Speaker 2: deadb Like.

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Speaker 3: I read the Herald article about electricity generation. I had

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00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 3: to read it twice to discover there was no mention

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00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 3: of Solar's part of the solution. Peter, you either read

1277
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 3: a different article or you sort of you didn't get

1278
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 3: the point of the article that was an article about

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00:56:55,920 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 3: a particular Gen Taylor. They focus on geothermal and also wind.

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00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 3: They're not as big an to soul as some of

1281
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 3: the others are big and solas. So by the time

1282
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 3: you get the four major gen Taylor's, plus all the

1283
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 3: smaller operators, you've got pretty much everything covered as far

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Speaker 3: as I can work out. And that's before you get

1285
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 3: to the whole deal they did between all of them

1286
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 3: for the coal at Huntley. Mike, I hope you read

1287
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 3: Deborah Chambers Casey excellent piece in the Herald. Yes, it

1288
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 3: did small criticism. It was a lengthy number, almost as

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Speaker 3: though she'd gone to the Thomas Coglan School of Journalism.

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Speaker 3: And I was thinking halfway through the piece, I was thinking, Jesus,

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Speaker 3: and we're getting to a point here. But she got

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00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 3: there and it was a good piece. And this is

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00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 3: to do with the Apken case, which I assume is

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Speaker 3: done and that we just wait now for the panel

1295
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 3: to make whatever decision the panel is going to make.

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Speaker 3: My guess for what it's worth is there're not going

1297
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 3: to be able to conclude whether or not she did

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00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 3: what she said she didn't do, or whether she sort

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Speaker 3: of did. But it wasn't done with the alacrity and

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Speaker 3: noise that was claimed by others. In other words that

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Speaker 3: she said she said mainly Costello v. Aiken, And they

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Speaker 3: will take whatever they come up with and send it

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Speaker 3: off to the Acting Attorney General, which is of course

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Speaker 3: Paul Goldsmith, and he will, i'm guessing, do nothing with it.

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Speaker 3: So that's going to be. It was moderately entertaining, deeply humiliating.

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00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 3: I'm assuming for miss ake, and I don't know her

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Speaker 3: from a bar of soap, and indeed the other players

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Speaker 3: and the wider.

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Speaker 15: Mess.

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Speaker 3: But if nothing happens. You got to ask the question

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00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 3: back Originally I supposed to New Zealand first, why did

1312
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 3: you elevate it to the point you elevated it too?

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00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 3: And who was the winner? And given the answer will

1314
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 3: almost certainly be nobody. What was the point? Are the

1315
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 3: Crusaders a bit useless?

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Speaker 4: What's going on there?

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00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 3: A little bit useless? Mean you firs going to talk

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00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 3: about the phoenix, but what about the Crusaders?

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00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 15: Bit useless?

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00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 2: Support frenex asking the questions?

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00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: Others won't the mic asking breakfast with Vita, retirement communities,

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00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: life your way, news, togsad be.

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Speaker 2: To spo roomy. It's no m no run.

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00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 21: And the Hurricanes kick off twenty twenty six for them

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00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 21: anyway with a very impressive win. I've scored eight twice

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Speaker 21: and run away with it.

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00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 15: It's the Chiefs.

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Speaker 20: We'll run out winners by twenty six to thirteen and

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Speaker 20: they maintain their unbeaten record.

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00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 15: And the Blues come to Western Australia. They get the

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00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 15: points forty two thirty two an afternoon for the promis.

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Speaker 15: Yes you are hearing this correctly.

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00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 4: Winners and christ Church over the Crusaders.

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Speaker 2: Fifty to twenty four.

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00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 18: Outer destruction of Wellington Phoenix today six in a row,

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Speaker 18: the Knicks wave.

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Speaker 1: Load, the Monday Morning Commentary box with Spears finance, smart

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get into it. Andrews several. Good morning to you,

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00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 3: money mate, Jason Pine, morning to you, Good morning. I

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01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 3: read your piece, Jason. That action shot you do when

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01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 3: you do pieces for the Herald. That action shot the

1343
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 3: photo they use of you with your man You look

1344
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 3: cool with your special headphones on. And I assume it's

1345
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 3: a little bit airbrushed and stuff like that as well.

1346
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 3: But man, what a good looking, striking individual you are.

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Speaker 3: You said somewhere in the article I read it said,

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01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 3: it's not all the coaches fault. So what's the point

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01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 3: of what he's done and doesn't change anything?

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01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 15: Well, I think he just he's looked.

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01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 21: Put it this way, Mike, I think if he hadn't resigned,

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01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 21: he would have been sacked. You know, you can't lose

1353
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 21: five milo at home to your closest rivals, making it

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01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 21: six in a row against them and expect to keep

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01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 21: your job. You know, no football manager anywhere in the

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Speaker 21: world keeps their job under those circumstances. I think what

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01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 21: Giancarlo Italiana did was, you know, in many ways, was

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01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 21: quite noble. He might have read the writing, read the

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01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 21: writing on the war, but so he realized that he

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01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 21: couldn't take the team forward anymore, and somebody else has

1361
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 21: to come in and and pick.

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01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 15: Up those pieces. Will it make a difference, I think it.

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Speaker 21: Well, sometimes you get a bounce off and and look,

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01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 21: there's as Ricky Herbert said earlier today, to you, you know,

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01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 21: there's still plenty to play for this season.

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Speaker 15: I just think it had got to.

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01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 21: The point where it was untenable for him to continue.

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Speaker 21: There were just so many different things that play here,

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01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 21: so much pressure on him, and the fan base were

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01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 21: basically fed up.

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01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 15: So I think this had to happen.

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Speaker 3: I played a season for Rangers in gold.

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01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 15: Is Did you did you play at Cuthbert's Green?

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Speaker 9: Yep?

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01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 3: Absolutely, We played all over christ Ytch and it was

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01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 3: just the one season in goal I fancied myself as

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Speaker 3: a goalie.

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01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 15: Did you want to did you win a lot at home?

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01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 22: Given Cuthberts Green and next to the poop ponds which

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01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 22: are been in the news.

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Speaker 3: Lately, never made any difference to me, mate, you just

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01:01:58,080 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 3: you've just you've.

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Speaker 15: Played in goal like a midget. I was you put

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01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 15: something in. You were the tallest.

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Speaker 3: I was left midfield wanting to be a striker, and

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01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 3: they didn't want to put me up at striker, and

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Speaker 3: I thought, well, I'm not going to get enough goals,

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01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 3: so I might as well go save a few. So

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Speaker 3: I volunteered as goalie for a season. I confess I

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01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 3: wasn't overly good. I didn't have the balls for it.

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Speaker 3: I didn't have the courage to throw myself aimlessly and

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Speaker 3: endlessly around the goal.

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Speaker 15: But and so a lot of it's very honest of you, mate, Yeah, no,

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Speaker 15: I was.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't one of all I was saying. But I

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Speaker 3: watched the guy who plays for Phoenix last night and

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Speaker 3: I thought, well, he's not up to much either, So

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Speaker 3: I mean, maybe there's something in that.

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Speaker 22: I don't know, I mean, Jason Jason, and may disagree

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01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 22: or agree with me, but that that goalie, I've never

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01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 22: seen anything like it before, and he's had some howlers

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Speaker 22: this season. I'm not too sure how on earth he

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01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 22: makes it into an A league team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, isn't that the point?

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01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 21: Well, yeah, look, I see, if you're right, I mean,

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01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 21: let's I'll come back to what happened on Saturday. But

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01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 21: actually before he's come back from injury, so he's at

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01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 21: eight or nine games out. Before that, he was actually

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01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 21: playing very well last season. He was a bit dodgy

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01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:09,959
Speaker 21: and got dropped. But what happened on Saturday utterly inexplicable really,

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Speaker 21: because he has every ability to step back inside his

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01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 21: penalty area, let that ball bounce and then catch it

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01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 21: on the bounce. There's there's no danger, there's no attacker

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Speaker 21: around him. What has gone through his mind is impossible

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Speaker 21: to you know, to even conceive how has he got

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Speaker 21: himself in that situation.

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Speaker 9: It's yeah.

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Speaker 22: But the thing that I think also, goalkeeping is a

1419
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 22: bloody hard job. Right You're blamed for everything pretty much,

1420
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 22: or you blame that the goal is going, and when

1421
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 22: when it's not, Carli your fault.

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01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 21: Most of the time, your mistakes are magnified, aren't they.

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01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 21: You make a mistake further up, if you're playing left

1424
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 21: left midfield or striker and you miss your touch, you know,

1425
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 21: the repercussions aren't that great.

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Speaker 15: But you do something in goal and normally a goal results.

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Speaker 21: One thing I did notice, and I think this is

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Speaker 21: a little bit telling is that nobody in that Phoenix

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Speaker 21: team got around him. You know, normally when somebody makes

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Speaker 21: a mistake at gold Heaper or anybody makes a mistake,

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01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 21: the team get around them and say come on mate,

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01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 21: you know, forget about it. We can't do anything about annalyexment.

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01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 21: There was only one mill, it was only one at

1434
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 21: that stage, and yet they fell apart.

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Speaker 15: Do you it was?

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Speaker 3: I mean, it was a nice week. I saw the

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Speaker 3: golf by accident, is there, Andrew? Is there more sport

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01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 3: on that's not being covered these days? Do you think?

1439
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 13: Or is it just me?

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01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 3: I discovered the golf purely by accident, which was being

1441
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 3: played up the coast and capity. That looked a nice

1442
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 3: day football. It looked a beautiful day Wellington.

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01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 15: Yeah.

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01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 22: The nz PGA, Yeah, it was actually a big weekend,

1445
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 22: wasn't it with the Canes playing Friday night INSPGA. They

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Speaker 22: got the New Zealand Open this week, which which will

1447
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 22: always which always looks stunning at Middlebrook, doesn't it in

1448
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 22: that area?

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Speaker 15: No A lot happening at the moment.

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01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 3: Are you nasally challenged yet again?

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01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 15: Oh yeah, I just I'm not too sure. Maybe change

1452
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 15: of seasons.

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01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 3: There isn't a change of season, the change of seas.

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Speaker 15: I had a busy I had a busy weekend.

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01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 3: Let's talk more about that in the moment.

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01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:06,240
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Speaker 3: There'll be sixteen past eight the Monday morning commentary Barks

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Speaker 3: with Spears, fight Ads, smart Ass and equipment Fight adds

1461
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Speaker 3: for Kiwi businesses. So let me ask you this, Andrew

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01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 3: Tiger Woods. I can go through all the results of

1463
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 3: the weekend, but I'm sort of over that part. There's

1464
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 3: a bigger picture of question for you, Tiger Woods. If

1465
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 3: he goes back to the Masters, when is when? When's

1466
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 3: enough enough? When do you just look? When? When do

1467
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 3: you just look silly?

1468
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 15: Yeah? And he's starting to, isn't he? I think so?

1469
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 3: He looks old before his time physically and he's beaten up.

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Speaker 22: What I mean, what he put his body through from

1471
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 22: a very young age has totally caught up with them.

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Speaker 3: He's not going to win, He's not going to make

1473
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 3: the cart. It's it's sort of borders on being pathetic.

1474
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 15: The game has moved on, Mike.

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01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 22: He should sit back in his rocking chair, be very

1476
01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 22: very proud of what he's done and what he did

1477
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 22: and old history, because let's face it, a lot of

1478
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 22: these guys playing now wouldn't be playing without Tiger Woods.

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01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 3: I was at the hairdresser the other day. You'll be

1481
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 3: interested in this, Jason. I was at the headress the

1482
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 3: other day and my my second, my first cab off

1483
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 3: the rank hairdresser. Ben he was at the live in

1484
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 3: Adelaide the other day and he said, absolutely Gamebusters, greatest

1485
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 3: thing he's ever seen in his life. Really, yeah, like

1486
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 3: he wasn't he was just wasn't go. I went to

1487
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 3: Adelaide and it was quite cool. He was like fizzing

1488
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 3: beyond anything he could imagine. You cannot believe the atmosphere

1489
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 3: and the vibe and how fantastic it was. He followed

1490
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 3: Ben Campbell, who went nine under one couple of hundred

1491
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 3: thousand dollars just for turning up. So I was a

1492
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 3: bit worried about liverthought.

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Speaker 22: I thought it was falling to pieces. Some of the

1494
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 22: scenes you do, some of the some of the picture

1495
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 22: you see that I think they've gone a little bit

1496
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 22: too far. There needs to be something to call them.

1497
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 22: At a golf tournament doesn't that.

1498
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 3: Well not according to Ben.

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01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 15: There's Ben lived on the edge.

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Speaker 3: He's pretty much like that.

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01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 15: But I might have seen been out on Saturday night.

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01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 3: You could have had it? Was that the problem you're

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01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 3: out on Saturday night?

1504
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 15: Is it?

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01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 3: When you go out after dark these days saved you

1506
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 3: get a bit nasal? Is that the problem?

1507
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 22: I very really go out these days? But I tell

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01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 22: you how I saw at the power station on Saturday night.

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Speaker 3: Gig Counting Crow. Geek, pardon, Counting Crows.

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01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 15: No no, no, no, no no. An Irish band called

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01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 15: Hot House Flowers.

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01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was my next one. It was Counting Crows

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01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 3: and Hot House Flowers are both have been in the country.

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01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 3: I really love Counting Crows.

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01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 15: Do you love Hot House Flowers?

1516
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 3: I love Hot House Flowers as well.

1517
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 15: Did they see what I know? They look? They played

1518
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 15: in Wellington last night. They're playing in christ Church.

1519
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 22: I think it's tomorrow night at the James Hat Theater,

1520
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,959
Speaker 22: which I think from memory is an all seater venue.

1521
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 22: They might have to rip some of the seats out

1522
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 22: because it's a gig you go to where you just

1523
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 22: can't stop moving and the music is fantastic. I was

1524
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 22: so excited. Liam the lead singer has one of the

1525
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 22: great voices.

1526
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 3: Doesn't he? Just did they sing? I can see clearly

1527
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 3: yes they did.

1528
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 15: Oh it was harrowing.

1529
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 22: And they did a couple of Gaelic songs which were

1530
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 22: harrowing as well. Just everyone you could have heard a

1531
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 22: pin drop. And then they played all their pretty much

1532
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 22: all of their hits.

1533
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 3: And what's the biggest set?

1534
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 9: What was it out?

1535
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 22: Who Don't Go, Don't Go? Okay, people think they're a

1536
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 22: one hit wonder band. They weren't They They put out

1537
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 22: some great music. Because last time I saw the mate

1538
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 22: was the christ Church Town Hall about nineteen eighty eight

1539
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 22: or eighty nine.

1540
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 9: I think they still was good.

1541
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 3: They still got it.

1542
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 15: Yep, yep.

1543
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:36,560
Speaker 21: His voice is just out of this world because you

1544
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,640
Speaker 21: worry about isn't it when you see somebody once and

1545
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 21: they're amazing and then you see them again.

1546
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 15: I saw meat Loaf in nineteen ninety.

1547
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 21: Two, absolutely outstanding, and then I saw Meatloaf again in

1548
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 21: the mid two thousands and he could hardly hold a note.

1549
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:51,839
Speaker 15: It was quite quite disturbing.

1550
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 3: I saw Meatloaf in the studio and he came in

1551
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 3: with a walking stick, and I thought things haven't gone

1552
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:59,639
Speaker 3: that well for him, Art garf Uncle was the same

1553
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 3: Art Garfuncle when he's seeing probably Bridge over trouble Water

1554
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 3: and you couldn't hit the high notes. I thought not.

1555
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 3: Paul Simon still got it, but Art hasn't Hothouse Flowers.

1556
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 3: And I can see clearly now if you ever want

1557
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:11,719
Speaker 3: the best.

1558
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 15: Version, obviously a remake that wasn't the course.

1559
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 3: But that's the point on the Grand Tour. It's the

1560
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 3: opening scene of the Grand Tour and it is spellbinding.

1561
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 15: And and there's nothing like a close quarter gig.

1562
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the well the power station is only about

1563
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 3: four people there.

1564
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 15: Isn't there a few hundred? Well that's the time.

1565
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 3: And I do think about that a lot do Once

1566
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 3: you've been big and they have how long do you

1567
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 3: continue playing for three hundred people for I mean, where's

1568
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:48,719
Speaker 3: the thrill.

1569
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 15: In that is?

1570
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 3: Or do you just perform for the sake of it?

1571
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 22: Look, when you've got that live bug in you as

1572
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:55,560
Speaker 22: a musician, I don't think you ever lose that.

1573
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:57,640
Speaker 15: And they certainly hadn't lost that.

1574
01:09:58,400 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 21: This is the Tiger Woods thing, isn't it. This is

1575
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 21: the Tiger what I'm saying it is like when he

1576
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:03,640
Speaker 21: had the buzz he.

1577
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 15: Thinks he can still win another big one.

1578
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 9: He can't.

1579
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:09,559
Speaker 3: He does, he can't see hot house flowers, can sing,

1580
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 3: do sing? Tiger Woods doesn't win, can't we?

1581
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 15: I mean he can barely swing a club.

1582
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 3: Yes, that's what it boils down to, meatloaf. He's tiger loaf.

1583
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 3: What did you see the supercars at all?

1584
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 9: Either of you?

1585
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 15: I saw a little bit as interested in the Toyoga,

1586
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 15: the new Tuata.

1587
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 3: That's the best looking car on the track.

1588
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 15: Super pretty well, don't they? Opening round super looks.

1589
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 3: Like a Maserati. You look at the front of it

1590
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 3: looks like a Maserati. They've scratched it and moved it

1591
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:39,679
Speaker 3: to make it look like a Maserati.

1592
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1593
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 3: It was a great round, very very exciting, very very tense,

1594
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:44,680
Speaker 3: very very close. So it'll be gearing up for a

1595
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 3: very good season.

1596
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:46,680
Speaker 15: What's happened to your crusaders?

1597
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 3: I was hoping you wouldn't raise that. It looks like trouble.

1598
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 3: Doesn't it.

1599
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 15: Embarrassing to concede fifty points at home? I don't think

1600
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 15: that's ever happened. No, first time, yeah, first time the road,

1601
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 15: but not at home.

1602
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 3: No, exactly, should we call for rob in his head?

1603
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 3: Should we do that.

1604
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 9: I don't know.

1605
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:07,799
Speaker 3: Just while we're in the mood, was there a goalkeeper

1606
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 3: that was a problem for the side. I don't know

1607
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 3: what was going on.

1608
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 15: Did you end up going back to football after your

1609
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 15: goalkeeping escapades? Or did you carried on?

1610
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 9: Was carried on?

1611
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:17,640
Speaker 15: Went back to left middel What stage in life did

1612
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 15: you grow a peer? Well, you admitted you didn't. You

1613
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 15: didn't have the kahunas to play in goal.

1614
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 3: Then I'd have to think about when I grew a peer.

1615
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 3: But I got there in the end, just let's say,

1616
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 3: could have been a late developer, got there on the end.

1617
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 3: Let's just end on that note. Shall we? Nice to

1618
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 3: see you guys?

1619
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 1: It's like twenty two the Mike Hosking break with Bailey's

1620
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 1: real Estate news dogs.

1621
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 3: There'd be now as we get older, most of us,

1622
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 3: except that we might be you know, a little slower

1623
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 3: on the feet, which is normal, but losing confidence in

1624
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 3: your balance. This is important, worrying about falling right now

1625
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:53,639
Speaker 3: that you don't want to shrug that off, because here's

1626
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 3: something many people don't realize. Your ears don't just to

1627
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 3: help you here. They play a critical role in balance

1628
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 3: and spatial awareness and when hearing declines, your brain has

1629
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,560
Speaker 3: to work much harder to process that sound. That extramental

1630
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:07,639
Speaker 3: load can reduce the resources available for things like balance

1631
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 3: and coordination. So studies have shown has very clear link

1632
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 3: between hearing loss and increase risks of fall. So if

1633
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 3: you've had a fall in the last year, or maybe

1634
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 3: you feel a little bit unsteady, might be worth checking

1635
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 3: out whether the hearing is part of the picture. So

1636
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 3: Resonate Health's EAR three sixty assessment looks at hearing, looks

1637
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 3: at balance, how they interact in everyday life, comprehensive check

1638
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 3: designed to give you clarity, not guesswork, and if hearing

1639
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Speaker 3: support is needed. Their subscription model provides those top of

1640
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Speaker 3: the range hearing aids for ninety dollars a month with

1641
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 3: ongoing care included. So if staying steady inactive matters to you,

1642
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Speaker 3: it's worth looking into Resonatehealth dot co dot NZ eight

1643
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Speaker 3: hundred and seven three seven sixty six'. Two asking the

1644
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:52,639
Speaker 3: irony of that story ABOUT i can see clearly now

1645
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 3: IS i got that song on the old stick And

1646
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 3: i'm playing at top volume in the car at the,

1647
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 3: Moment because of course it is the opening scene and

1648
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 3: The Grand. Tour the producer Of Grand tour Is Andy.

1649
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 3: Wilman that scene of the opening bit Of Grand, tour

1650
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 3: the very first episode when they left Top, year cost

1651
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 3: two million. Pounds the opening scene two million. Pounds Andy

1652
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 3: willman is on the program tomorrow after eight. O'clock there you,

1653
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 3: go stitched it all?

1654
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 9: Together how clod was?

1655
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 3: That only on The mike Hosting breakfast where the news

1656
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 3: is next and then To Steve.

1657
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 1: Opinion edit, informed, unapologetic The Mike Hosking breakfast with The,

1658
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 1: defender embraced the impossible news togs.

1659
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 3: B i might just watch the hothouse. FLOWERS i can

1660
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 3: see clearly Now Grand tour video. Awesome you have great

1661
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 3: taste in. Music barry your spot on twenty three minutes

1662
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:40,719
Speaker 3: away from.

1663
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 1: Nine International correspondence with ends and Eye. Insurance peace of

1664
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 1: mind For New zealand.

1665
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 9: Business Happy.

1666
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:51,639
Speaker 3: Monday Stephen price In, australia Yid, abet the bloke who

1667
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:53,680
Speaker 3: was on sixty minutes last. Night this is the guy

1668
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 3: out of bond either hero is what happened to The

1669
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 3: Sky there was A Sky news interview that you remember

1670
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks that wasn't going to happen or

1671
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 3: didn't happen or something, happened and he went what happened

1672
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 3: to all of?

1673
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 12: That it all went very, quiet And i've worked with

1674
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:09,560
Speaker 12: For sky and no one in there talks about, it

1675
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 12: and it all just seemed to have. DISAPPEARED i told

1676
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:13,839
Speaker 12: you about it at the time that he was supposed

1677
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 12: to appear On. Sky he'd offered to talk to my

1678
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 12: Colleague Cherry markson and then on the day they all set,

1679
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 12: up he disappeared and never did. It and now he's

1680
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 12: bobbed up on Sixty, minutes Where i'm told that he

1681
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 12: was not paid the millions that he was paid to

1682
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 12: do the original interview that he did with THE US tv,

1683
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 12: network but he was paid three hundred thousand dollars something

1684
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,560
Speaker 12: like that to go on Sixty minutes last. Night his

1685
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 12: name is Caused Ahmed. Akhmed it was back On december

1686
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 12: fourteenth when those two government allegedly because there's a cookcase

1687
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 12: still going on with one of, them took aim and

1688
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 12: killed nineteen people On Bondi. Beach now he's revealed for

1689
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 12: the first. Time by the, way he still got two

1690
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 12: bullets in his shoulder and needs to have. SURGERY i

1691
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 12: don't know why they're still, there but they are and

1692
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 12: he's got to have them removed at some. Point he

1693
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 12: has revealed what he said to The gunment when he confronted,

1694
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 12: him this Is Sajan, Akram he, said he didn't think

1695
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 12: this Is. Akhmed before running toward the, GUNMENT i Asked

1696
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 12: god to help. ME i just saw it AND i

1697
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 12: THOUGHT i should do. It he wrestled the gun out

1698
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 12: of the shooter's. Hands forgive the. LANGUAGE i won't use

1699
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 12: them the actual, language but you, Know i'll make you

1700
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 12: know what he'd. Said he, said, mother if a stop

1701
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:31,560
Speaker 12: what you are, doing and, mother if a piece, off you,

1702
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 12: know and he said The gunment was shocked by the

1703
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 12: screaming and. Swearing he said nothing in, return showing, anger you,

1704
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:45,719
Speaker 12: know pointing the gun at the. Shooter utman ultimately decided

1705
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 12: not to fire. Back when he was asked, why he

1706
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 12: said it wasn't his job and he didn't want blood

1707
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 12: on his. Hands so that's where we're at with. Him

1708
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 12: he used to run a tobacco. SHOP i think he's

1709
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 12: now happily.

1710
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:00,719
Speaker 3: RETIRED i was going to, say what that's the general,

1711
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:03,639
Speaker 3: view and, see we don't pay for. STUFF i don't

1712
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 3: think we ever paid for stuff and if we hadn't

1713
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 3: for decades what, So, yes he's a, hero no one doubts.

1714
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 3: That but he's he's turned this into an industry of

1715
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 3: making quite a lot of. Money is that kosher among Most?

1716
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 3: Australians you?

1717
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:20,599
Speaker 12: Reckon, well it's illegal to pay anybody who is convicted

1718
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 12: or has committed a, crime, right so you can't do.

1719
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 12: That but he is able to be paid as a.

1720
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 12: HERO i don't think anyone, cares to be. HONEST i

1721
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 12: think he probably feel that he deserves every penny he

1722
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 12: can get his hands, On.

1723
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:36,600
Speaker 3: To be, honest did you go to that thing that

1724
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 3: you guys Have? Sky speaking Of Sky, news you're renaming

1725
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:41,560
Speaker 3: yourself because you know background it's too. Boring but but

1726
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 3: you had a big function the other. Night we get the.

1727
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 3: Function do you have a good? Time was?

1728
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 15: It?

1729
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 12: YES i. WAS i was on the air at the

1730
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 12: time that The Prime minister was, Speaking but, YES i was.

1731
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 12: There And sky's changed it's. Name you're quite, right and

1732
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 12: it's going to happen in the middle of the year sometimes.

1733
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 3: Nice now the isis brides where they have if they've

1734
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 3: got a, passport how do you keep them from coming?

1735
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 12: Back, well they don't have a, passport but it looks

1736
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 12: like someone was trying to issue them with. Passports now

1737
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:06,759
Speaker 12: this is all very. MURTHY i, mean The Prime minister

1738
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 12: dug himself a huge. Hole he keeps on, saying we're

1739
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 12: not repatriating those. People we're not repatriating The isis, Brides

1740
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 12: we're not bringing them back. Here, well he keeps using

1741
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 12: the word who does we? Mean does that mean the

1742
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 12: executive arm of the government or does that mean everybody

1743
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:24,599
Speaker 12: involved in the public, service the government security, agencies because

1744
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 12: The Sunday papers reported yesterday that there had been in

1745
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:33,640
Speaker 12: fact contact between government departments and these people in this.

1746
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 12: Camp now the news limit of papers have exposed the

1747
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 12: fact that the brides and their children were confirmed that

1748
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 12: they were assisted by An australian government. Delegate, now how

1749
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 12: can that not mean the. Government it's also Understood Home

1750
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 12: Affairs department officials they have been holding briefings with The

1751
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:55,879
Speaker 12: joint Counter Terrorism, team which includes THE afp AND. ASO

1752
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:59,759
Speaker 12: a senior federal government so or, said high level briefings

1753
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 12: focused on where we're going to put these people when

1754
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 12: they came, back what assistance they were going to have,

1755
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 12: medically where they're going to be. WATCHED i, mean it

1756
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 12: is just an incredible mess that he has set up for,

1757
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 12: himself Our Prime. Minister And Tony burker's on the inside

1758
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 12: this program on THE abc yesterday and he was no.

1759
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:20,720
Speaker 12: Better he also was talking about how we're giving no.

1760
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 12: Assistance well that's clearly not.

1761
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 3: True, no this one nation, policy is it designed for

1762
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 3: the upcoming elections Like South. Australia is it just why

1763
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 3: we're doing? Well so here's some policy and people can

1764
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 3: start thinking about.

1765
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 12: Us, no one hundred, percent you're. Right it's to do

1766
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 12: with the not only The South australian, election which is

1767
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 12: now officially the campaign is, underway launched by their premier,

1768
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 12: yesterday but also.

1769
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 15: You've got a by election you remember In victoria because.

1770
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 12: That tennise hero bloke walked away from his. Seat that's

1771
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 12: going to happen in the next part Of march as.

1772
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:55,680
Speaker 12: Well so Yesterday Barnaby joyce gave a major interview one

1773
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 12: Of australian newspapers where he talked about as this for an,

1774
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 12: idea if you are A gp a, doctor you're going

1775
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 12: to have to serve a period of time in regional

1776
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 12: or Rural australia or you will not be able to

1777
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 12: benefit From medicare if you operate not open up a

1778
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 12: doctor's office in the. City most people that, say that's

1779
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 12: not such a bad, idea except we've already got a

1780
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 12: shortage of doctors in the cities, anyway and if they're

1781
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 12: all out in the bush doing their penance for being city,

1782
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 12: based that's going to affect the number OF gps available

1783
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,600
Speaker 12: in the. Cities that's one. Policy maybe you could have

1784
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 12: a debate about, that whether it's good or. Bad and

1785
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 12: now they're going back down the flat tax. Road Now

1786
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 12: i'm old enough to remember back in the Nineties Paul

1787
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 12: enhanson suggesting we have a flat tax. Rate she was

1788
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 12: jumped upon by people Like Peter costello to Former Liberal

1789
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 12: Treasurer John, howard the Then prime, minister saying it's a

1790
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 12: mad policy and it's never going to. Work will it

1791
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:50,760
Speaker 12: appeal to people who might tick the box one? Nation,

1792
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 12: probably particularly if you're a very high tax.

1793
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 3: Rate interesting is it's far all going to do anything

1794
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 3: about the teriffs because you were on TIN i, think

1795
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 3: won't you add and now everyone's gone to, fifteen which

1796
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:05,720
Speaker 3: means you? Lose so does anyone? KNOW i mean WHEN

1797
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 3: i wouldn't have a clue what's going on, Here BUT i,

1798
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:08,760
Speaker 3: mean does anyone know what's going on?

1799
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 9: There?

1800
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 12: Not, really everyone's get very quiet about. It Don farrell

1801
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:14,599
Speaker 12: has been very busy trying to do secure a free

1802
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 12: trade agreement with The European, nations which he thinks he's

1803
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 12: getting close, to but there's a lot of still a

1804
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 12: lot of issues with meat going To, europe so he's

1805
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:24,720
Speaker 12: going to have to try and deal with. THAT i

1806
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:26,719
Speaker 12: think he's been too busy doing that to worry about

1807
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 12: What Donald trump's done with the fifteen. Percent but there

1808
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 12: is some pushback from some of the industries that are

1809
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 12: already paid some of these tariffs now that they should

1810
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:36,840
Speaker 12: be getting refunds From Donald.

1811
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 3: TRUMP i wouldn't hold my Breath See Wednesday Mate Steve

1812
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 3: Price out Of australia sixteen to, Two The.

1813
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 1: Mike Asking Breakfast Full show podcast On, iHeartRadio Howard By

1814
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 1: News talks that'd BE i.

1815
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 3: Was reading over the weekend just In the sixty One

1816
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 3: institute have produced a report that Says australia's on target

1817
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 3: for twenty consecutive years of combined budget deficits by twenty twenty,

1818
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 3: eight twenty years they've never paid their way between the.

1819
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 3: State of, course you got to remember you got state

1820
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 3: governments as well as Federal they already owned trillion. Dollars

1821
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 3: nine hundred and ninety million dollars are trillion. Dollars they've

1822
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 3: never got on. Top there's not a single year in

1823
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 3: the last twenty years have they ever run a. Surplus it's,

1824
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 3: amazing isn't. It by the, Way malta is offering you

1825
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:19,759
Speaker 3: twenty five thousand, euros which in today's money is fifty.

1826
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:22,720
Speaker 3: Grand they split. It you only get five euros a,

1827
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:24,639
Speaker 3: year five thousand euros a. Year but if you're under,

1828
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 3: thirty they will pay you a total of fifty Thousand

1829
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 3: New zealand dollars to hand in your driver's. License how

1830
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:32,920
Speaker 3: much would it cost for you to do? That, so

1831
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 3: if you're under, thirty how much would we have to

1832
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 3: give you so that you hand in your driver's license

1833
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 3: so you don't have a. Drive, so in other, words

1834
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:41,400
Speaker 3: they want to get cars off the road and people

1835
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 3: off the. Strip blah blah. Blah is fifty it would

1836
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 3: fifty do? IT i mean if you're, young this is the,

1837
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 3: problem isn't. It so if you're twenty three years, OLD

1838
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 3: i say fifty grand give me your. License you, go, oh, yeah,

1839
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 3: NO i don't have a. CAR i can't afford a car,

1840
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 3: anyway so you can have my. License then by the

1841
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:59,479
Speaker 3: time you're forty, two you are so full of. Regret

1842
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 3: it's underloe, will aren't? You and THEN i come TO

1843
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 3: byd who are Claiming and this is the game. Changer you,

1844
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 3: know my view on EV's one of the biggest. Problems

1845
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 3: the range THING i can get past because you, know

1846
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:15,679
Speaker 3: everyone's got range in their, car and range anxiety is nevertheless.

1847
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 3: Real and the problem it's real in evs is because

1848
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 3: if you start to run out of, juice you want

1849
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:24,720
Speaker 3: somewhere close by that's going to solve your. Problem that

1850
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 3: part still hasn't been, solved so it's still a. Problem

1851
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 3: but the other part is the time it takes you

1852
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 3: to get the. JUICE byd are. Claiming there's going to

1853
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:36,160
Speaker 3: be a, car if not two cars in this country

1854
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 3: that is capable of recharging at two k's a, second

1855
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 3: in other, words from zero to full in four. Minutes

1856
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:46,599
Speaker 3: so if you could recharge YOUR ev in four, minutes

1857
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 3: which is pretty much within a margin the time you

1858
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 3: can do it with, petrol that changes the entire, game doesn't.

1859
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 3: It you need the. Infrastructure small problem. There we don't

1860
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 3: have it and so probably never. Will But i'll tell you.

1861
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 3: What there's a my service station round the corner from

1862
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:03,720
Speaker 3: me which turned from a regular service station into one

1863
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 3: of those there are no people, there so you just

1864
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 3: do it, yourself which is my favorite sort of service

1865
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:11,599
Speaker 3: station BECAUSE i never went and bought k bars. Anyway

1866
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:15,560
Speaker 3: that was now it's there is something. On it's like

1867
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 3: they're doing discounts or. SOMETHING i don't. Know, anyway point,

1868
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 3: being for the last couple of Times i've, gone there's

1869
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 3: like nine million people there and you can't get in

1870
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 3: for love nor, money and all the streets are.

1871
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 9: Blocked it's just.

1872
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 3: Insane and as the number of petrol stations is materially being,

1873
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 3: cut and there's no question that's. Happening as that happens

1874
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:34,599
Speaker 3: and it becomes a hassle to fuel, up you surely

1875
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:36,600
Speaker 3: start to. Go tell you, what maybe AN ev is the.

1876
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 3: Answer maybe AN EV i a go home at, night

1877
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 3: just plug it. In i'm happy As but if you

1878
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 3: can recharge your car in four minutes, flat if you've

1879
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 3: got the right, equipment that would change you a.

1880
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 2: FARE i don't even, know IF i can put petrol

1881
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 2: in my car in that, time.

1882
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 3: It'll be close run, thing wouldn't. It but you need

1883
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 3: quite a. MACHINE i, mean there are none of those

1884
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 3: machines in the country to do, it but eventually they'll be.

1885
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:56,720
Speaker 3: There and when that, Happens so if you can do

1886
01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 3: your car and four minutes, plus you've got the, machinery

1887
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 3: plus you've got the confidence that the machinery is there,

1888
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:05,720
Speaker 3: sure and the price of the cars come down and

1889
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 3: the resale value of the car isn't the. Crater once

1890
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:13,680
Speaker 3: all that comes, together you might have a. Market nine

1891
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 3: to Nine.

1892
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 1: The make Hosting breakfast with A Veta Retirement Communities News

1893
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:20,680
Speaker 1: togstad bets just in.

1894
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:23,240
Speaker 3: The government has, announced just announced they're going to put

1895
01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 3: two hundred million dollars of our money or debt as

1896
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:31,840
Speaker 3: the case maybe Into, genesis as in the power, company

1897
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 3: as part of the capital. Race now they argue that

1898
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 3: that Helps genesis do a whole bunch of stuff on,

1899
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 3: renewables greater, supply security of, supply blah blah. Blah, oh that's,

1900
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 3: fine there's nothing wrong with. That And i'm assuming it's

1901
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 3: not a bad investment in terms of gent tailor's and

1902
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 3: what they return at the moment if you have followed

1903
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 3: the gent, tailors what sort of money they? Make WHAT

1904
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 3: i can't work, out given this has just been given to,

1905
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 3: Me why would THEY i, mean, yes the government said

1906
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:57,760
Speaker 3: they confirmed last year they'd consider requests from all three

1907
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,120
Speaker 3: mixed ownership model energy companies For crown and ves and

1908
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 3: commercially sound generation. Capacity all that's. Fine why can't they

1909
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:05,600
Speaker 3: go to the. Market that's WHY i don't. UNDERSTAND i,

1910
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 3: mean there's money galore out there for good. Projects is

1911
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 3: the two hundred million to cover off something they can't find?

1912
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:16,640
Speaker 3: Elsewhere is the two hundred million on our behalf a

1913
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:20,680
Speaker 3: generous investment that will pay great. Returns you'd have to

1914
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:22,680
Speaker 3: hope that's the. CASE i just don't get why the

1915
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 3: government's investing in something where they can go to the

1916
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 3: market and get the sort of dough they'd. Want i'll

1917
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 3: need to ask somebody about that overnight and come back

1918
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 3: to you. Tomorrow by the, way there's a reason another

1919
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 3: reason why the planes In New zealand this. Week by the,

1920
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 3: way they're going to make a, loss so we need

1921
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 3: to talk about that later on the. Week and in

1922
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:42,720
Speaker 3: a wild WHERE i art has already said that internationally

1923
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:45,720
Speaker 3: airlines will be making record profits this. Year how is

1924
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 3: it that our national airline makes a? LOSS i, mean

1925
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 3: For god's, SAKE i, mean, yes they got. TROUBLES i

1926
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:51,760
Speaker 3: get how they. Know they've got no, planes they've got no.

1927
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 3: Engines but one of the Reason i'm reading over the,

1928
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 3: weekend which is, interesting one of the reasons the planes

1929
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 3: are so slow at the moment globally is because of

1930
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 3: all the flash. Seats everybody's fluming at the front of

1931
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 3: the plane these, days and so the airlines cannot order

1932
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 3: enough of these flash. Seats they're made by companies Like

1933
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:08,640
Speaker 3: saffron And. Riccaro and because they're made by those sort of,

1934
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:12,560
Speaker 3: companies not the airlines, themselves the planes are. Delayed so

1935
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 3: because we're flying at the front of the, plane it's our.

1936
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:16,680
Speaker 3: Fault it is hard to make a.

1937
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 15: Plane it's only front and no.

1938
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 3: Back that's, well you're telling the. Story five minutes away from.

1939
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Speaker 2: Nine trending now With warehouse the Real house Of.

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Speaker 3: Frequencies, now talk shows have been all over The Supreme

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Speaker 3: court decision over the. Weekend they low Called John baron

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Speaker 3: called Into Sea span when they opened up the phone.

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Speaker 3: Lines Now John baron was the pseudonym That trump used

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Speaker 3: when he wanted to get a point across to a.

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Speaker 23: Journalist, well this Is john barn and you Have, look

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Speaker 23: this is the worst decision you ever have in your, life, Practically,

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Speaker 23: jack And jack's gonna agree with, me, right but this

1948
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Speaker 23: is a terrible. Decision and you Have Haqem, jeffries who

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Speaker 23: he's a.

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Speaker 2: Dope and you Have chuck who get cooka.

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Speaker 23: Cheeseburger of course these people are. Happy of course these

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Speaker 23: people are, happy but True.

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Speaker 13: Americans will not be.

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Speaker 2: Happy and you have the woman.

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Speaker 23: EARLIER i assuse she's a, woman she's A, democrat but

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Speaker 23: she said she's a disgraced she's.

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Speaker 13: Devastated all?

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Speaker 3: Right is he the easiest president ever to? Impersonate Or obama.

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Speaker 4: Or?

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Speaker 3: Nixon i'm think about they're all easy to. Impersonate, yeah,

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Speaker 3: YEAH i mean some aren't as. Easy W Herbert Herbert

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Speaker 3: walker would be the. Least these would be the most

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Speaker 3: difficult because he didn't have much to him. Anyway Andy

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Speaker 3: wilman is on the program, tomorrow so very much looking

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Speaker 3: forward to. That the genius and the unsung hero in many.

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Speaker 3: Respects behind the cleverness that was top, gear he took

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Speaker 3: top gear and turned it into what it became until

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Speaker 3: it blew. Up and then he went along With jeremy

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Speaker 3: as mate to The Grand tour and he did that

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Speaker 3: and now he's working On clarkson's. Farm So Andy, wilman

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Speaker 3: we'll be giving us a better background on how all

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Speaker 3: that comes together when he's with us After Ready talk tomorrow,

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Speaker 3: morning as, Always Happy.

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