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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Pine

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Speaker 1: from Newstalks EDB. The Old Blacks season is set to

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Speaker 1: begin the mission in twenty twenty five. Dominate the French

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Speaker 1: arrive young, fearless and ready to shock the rugby world.

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Speaker 2: France transcripe fast, the.

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Speaker 1: Old lags with power, precision and pride alas what I

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Speaker 3: We get ready for the start of the international rugby season.

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Speaker 3: We are live from Emerson's Brewery in Dneda My.

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Speaker 1: God, counting down to the Old Blacks first test of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Shot Sports.

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Speaker 1: It's Weekend Sport with Jason Pine on your home of

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Speaker 1: Sport News Talks ed B.

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Speaker 4: Here so that you're to get up thenoon. Welcome into

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Speaker 4: Weekend Sport on News Talks EDBU four Saturday July five,

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Speaker 4: Taste Match Saturday, first one of the year. The show

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Speaker 4: coming to you from Test City, Dunedin and specifically from

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Speaker 4: the iconic Emerson's Craft Brewery. As we build towards Raz's

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Speaker 4: first assignment for twenty twenty five Test one of three

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Speaker 4: against the touring French, or at least a version of

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Speaker 4: the French rugby side. I'm Jason Pinehow producer Andy McDonnell.

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Speaker 4: We're here until three as we build towards our first

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Speaker 4: opportunity to see the All Blacks in action this year.

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Speaker 4: Brilliant to be here at Emerson's Pub on the occasion

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Speaker 4: of their ninth anniversary. The brewery itself has been in

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Speaker 4: operation for thirty three years, founded by Richard Emerson in

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Speaker 4: nineteen ninety two. Emerson's Pub, though itself opened on the

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Speaker 4: the weather. Delicious craft bear a menu that caters for

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Speaker 4: all tastes. It is indeed the go to spot before

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Speaker 4: and after test matches and big rugby games at Forsyth

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Speaker 4: and that'll only build as the afternoon goes on. Unsurprisingly,

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Speaker 4: there's a big All Blacks focus on the show today

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Speaker 4: and a big Southern focus as well. Southern Rugby Royalty

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Speaker 4: to lead us off shortly, Otago Highlanders and All Blacks

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Speaker 4: legend Jeff Wilson standing by to chat with us. Former

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Speaker 4: Whare is going to pop in for a chat. Former

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Speaker 4: and plenty of time for you to give us your

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Speaker 4: thoughts on what might play out tonight. What are you expecting,

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Speaker 4: need to see happen tonight to be happy satisfied with

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Speaker 4: very green lablur other matters around today the Junior to

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Speaker 4: Under nineteen Basketball World Cup, they're into the semifinals for

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Speaker 4: the hosts Switzerland and the quarters this morning eighty four

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Speaker 4: tomorrow morning. Head coach Matt Lacy with us just after two.

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Speaker 4: The twenty twenty five edition of cycling's Tour de France

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Speaker 4: Stage one. One of our elites para athletes, three time

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Speaker 4: Paralympic champion Anna Grimaldi, is on the show. She's one

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Speaker 4: of six New Zealanders competing at the latest Diamond League

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Speaker 4: Duaneedin based Paris skier Adam Hall going to pop into

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Speaker 4: at six o'clock tonight kick off just after seven. Our

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Speaker 4: with former All Black Paul Miller alongside, but a live

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Speaker 4: Sport while we're on the air this afternoon Rugby doubleheader

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Speaker 4: and Fang today the Black Ferns taking on the Black

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Speaker 3: When it's down to the line. You made a call

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Speaker 4: First All Blacks Test of the Year to neat and

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Speaker 4: tonight from five past seven All Blacks v. France. The

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Speaker 4: last time the two met this happened.

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Speaker 5: Jordan has to take the tackle, he's hold up at

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Speaker 6: Let's put the need to get the nasty ground well,

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Speaker 6: pry swallow them up, head.

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Speaker 7: Up the ets weyond goes.

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Speaker 8: Out for France.

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Speaker 6: Beyond go out patas seven for time and France doing

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Speaker 6: again over the All Blacks by one point.

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Speaker 9: Yes.

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Speaker 4: Indeed, in fact, France have beaten the All Blacks the

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Speaker 4: last three times the two have met. You'd have to

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Speaker 4: expect them to make that four tonight with a very green,

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Speaker 4: inexperienced team. But you never know, and you never know

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Speaker 4: when it comes to France. Let's bring in seventy one

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Speaker 4: Game sixty Test forty four try All Black Otago and

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Speaker 4: Highlander's legiend and now Skysport commentator and analyst Jeff Wilson Goaldie.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us, mate. Let's talk some selection. First

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Speaker 4: of all, what do you make of Rico Yuanne shift

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Speaker 9: Oh appear and simply I think it comes down to

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Speaker 9: wanting to give Billy Procter an opportunity in the All

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Speaker 9: that transfers some of that great form from last year

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Speaker 9: And I think even if you look at the form

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Speaker 9: You'd have to say for the Blues in Super Rugby,

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Speaker 9: I think give us some versatility and Ricarster covering center.

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Speaker 8: I think an all round.

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Speaker 9: Selection for me that helps the team move forward. In

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Speaker 9: terms of knowing more about Billy Procter.

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Speaker 4: How different does Santa do you perceive Billy Proctor to

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Speaker 9: Oh, look, there's a real there's a different skill set there.

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Speaker 9: Rico's certainly a different size. He carries and runs a

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Speaker 9: lot more direct lines. Billy Proctor. You see him. He's very,

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Speaker 9: very good on his feet. He likes to stay alive

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Speaker 9: lot more of a player who's quite often sort of

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Speaker 9: tried to punch through holes, with Proctor as a player

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Speaker 9: doesn't mind trying to take an outside break, which I

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Speaker 9: really really like because with Jordi Barrett and at twelve

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Speaker 9: because he doesn't rely on his speed that Rico Yuani does.

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Speaker 9: He's got great acceleration, whereas Procter, he's a player that

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Speaker 9: I think you know, size against the big teams, against

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Speaker 9: the spring Box, against France, against Ireland, England, those teams

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Speaker 9: the top sides in the world. Clearly, it's an area

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Speaker 9: you want to make sure you can match size to size,

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Speaker 9: and what you do get with the athleticism of Tuba

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Speaker 9: Bay is exactly that the ability for him to play

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Speaker 9: that perspective, you know, the number on the back's probably

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Speaker 9: all round game, Tupo has been outstanding. So I'm interested

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Speaker 9: it it gives an opportunity for Fabian Holland to straight

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Speaker 4: What sort of messaging do you think the All Blacks

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Speaker 8: Yeah, look, I think he was closed up this year.

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Speaker 9: I think you know, they had such a competitive group

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Speaker 9: same token. You know, he was guilty in a quarterfinal

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Speaker 9: it's about accuracies and making sure that he's being impactful

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Speaker 9: to worry about maybe sixty seventy minutes. He'll probably, provided

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Speaker 9: to go out there and just literally go for it.

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Speaker 9: Just put back to back efforts in not just every

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Speaker 9: whether it's carrying or tackling. So I think this is

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Speaker 9: a nice option for me. This is us looking at

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Speaker 9: something different, and for me, that's probably the most important thing.

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Speaker 9: Is that if we rolled out with a similar feel

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Speaker 9: and lookers last year it was almost like we're not

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Speaker 9: prepared to go in a different direction. This team looks

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Speaker 9: as though we're going in a slightly different direction.

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Speaker 4: On that then, Jeff, do you think there would have

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Speaker 4: been a temptation to give to multi tubatub and II

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Speaker 4: a tea stable off the bench on his home ground.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think there would have been that.

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Speaker 9: But in saying that, I think experience still does count

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Speaker 9: So I think tonight, I think this is a really

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Speaker 4: We'd just zoom out a bit to thine, what do

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Speaker 9: around Okay, how do we manage our way through this

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Speaker 4: Week on week being better, fascinating, year ahead, intriguing start

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Speaker 9: You must, oh, absolutely every city's got a unique biber

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Speaker 9: We know it hasn't been a great week in terms

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Speaker 8: To do it this level.

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Speaker 4: Top man, Goldie, always good to chat. Thanks for taking

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Speaker 4: the time, mate, No problems all enjoy you enjoy two Goldie.

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Speaker 4: Jeff Wilson joining us there on the day of the

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Speaker 4: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is our number in

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's any doubt about that we're going

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Speaker 4: new year on a positive cohesive note. Now Fabian Holland's

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Speaker 4: and I was told yesterday that it is pronounced Fabian Holland.

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Speaker 4: as we build towards the first test of the year

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Speaker 4: tonight in Doneda, and we're coming to you from the

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Speaker 4: iconic Emerson's Brewery. God it's good here. I have to say, man,

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Speaker 4: I've got to finish at three and then prepare to

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Speaker 4: be part of our build up tonight. You could easily

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Speaker 4: settle in here. You could easily settle in as I

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Speaker 4: few have. Whether they're settling into the afternoon's a different story.

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Speaker 4: They might just be having a couple of settlers and

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Speaker 4: getting themselves ready. There's a bit of a sort of

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Speaker 4: a hum going on here at Emerson's, which I apolutely love.

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Speaker 4: I've had a bit of blowback on my suggestion that

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Speaker 4: test matches should be taken away from Wellington, and the

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Speaker 4: point has been made, and it's a good one that

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Speaker 4: accommodation options in the Dunedin area are perhaps limited compared

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Speaker 4: to some of the bigger places. But having said that,

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Speaker 4: I mean this place is the've sold the test out tonight,

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Speaker 4: so everybody must be staying somewhere. Everybody must be somewhere. Hello, Henry,

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Speaker 4: how are you?

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Speaker 3: Hey?

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Speaker 8: Jesson's mate.

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Speaker 11: Tonight is it'll be good. I just want to see

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Speaker 11: aloys you guys have good games, because then you know

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Speaker 11: you can say, oh, yeah, sold you should have been

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Speaker 11: picked and you know they've done well.

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Speaker 8: It's you know, I just want it mean to have

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Speaker 8: could doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Meet it where they thrash them.

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Speaker 10: But if those new.

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Speaker 8: Guys who have good games, it will be like all

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Speaker 8: these you know, the future all Blacks.

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Speaker 4: Oh, Henry, I totally agree. I'm always always interested to

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Speaker 4: see how new guys go and as you say, right

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Speaker 4: throughout super right be. One of our favorite pastimes is

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Speaker 4: talking about guys who we think should be at your

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Speaker 4: Blacks for the first time. And you've probably heard me

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Speaker 4: bang on and on about two plus ethy, but I'm

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Speaker 4: so looking forward to seeing how he goes tonight. Fab

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Speaker 4: and Holland's being talked about for a while, Christian Leo

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Speaker 4: Willie and Olin Norris less so I think. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean, I just it's always fascinating to see whether

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Speaker 4: they grow into the jersey or whether the jersey becomes

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Speaker 4: in some way a bit of a burden on you

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Speaker 4: know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's all I'm going.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I just wanted to, like, you really have a good game,

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Speaker 8: get a.

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Speaker 3: Grip, love it and just care no do good Yep.

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Speaker 4: I totally agree, Henry. Good on you mate, appreciate your calling.

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Speaker 4: In oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is

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Speaker 4: our number.

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Speaker 3: Good a Phil, Yeah, goney are well, I'm.

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Speaker 4: An Emerson's Brewery and Dunedin, Phil, so have a guess

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Speaker 4: how I'm going Pretty well?

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Speaker 13: Yes, yes I would be too. Yet, like you say,

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Speaker 13: not a bad place to be, nice little harmon, a

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Speaker 13: good place to probably said or work.

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Speaker 4: It would be if I was able to tell, I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna have to get to the game at some stage,

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Speaker 4: but it's a it's a nice, nice place to spend

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Speaker 4: a few hours this afternoon, mate.

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Speaker 13: Yes, yes, it would be, like you say, good soaking

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Speaker 13: up the vibe, you know, the people coming and yeah,

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Speaker 13: good atmosphere.

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Speaker 8: Indeed, I think it's going to better.

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Speaker 13: You know where everybody's saying about the sprintch team, how

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Speaker 13: this b side and where you should put a whole

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Speaker 13: heap of points on them and that? And you know,

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Speaker 13: does the marcall shunt it? Disrespectful them?

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Speaker 9: There?

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Speaker 13: What they've done bringing these players but across instead of

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Speaker 13: some of their big guns and their A players and that.

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Speaker 13: But I don't know, I'm not so sure. You know,

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Speaker 13: I wouldn't be surprised if I mean, I think we've

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Speaker 13: got a great all black team, and I really like

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Speaker 13: the selections, but I just I'm a bit more cautious

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Speaker 13: and a bit more weary, even though they may be

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Speaker 13: be players as have been called. I was listening during

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Speaker 13: the week and there were some good points made in

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Speaker 13: various talk about shows about how they're still there'll still

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Speaker 13: be good players, you know. It's not like they'll be

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Speaker 13: has been in hacks at descending over and they'll be

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Speaker 13: wanting to impress themselves because they'll be looking to the

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Speaker 13: World Cup themselves, you know, and their coaches have got

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Speaker 13: a few coaches have come over with them, and I'm

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Speaker 13: kind of suspecting or wondering if those coaches are coming

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Speaker 13: over selves. They've sent quarter more than usual amount of

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Speaker 13: coaches to really put an eye on these young French

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Speaker 13: fellers and see how they go, you know. And that's

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Speaker 13: why I think they'll be one and thinking about their

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Speaker 13: World Cup, mixing up some new young players in there

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Speaker 13: with the already A players that they have.

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Speaker 4: So I think also, Phil, Yeah, I think also for

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Speaker 4: these guys. For these players, absolutely nothing to lose, right

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Speaker 4: they nobody expects them, nobody expects them to win. They've

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Speaker 4: been given an opportunity. If I'm a if I'm a

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Speaker 4: young French player who's been handed the chance to play

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Speaker 4: against the Mighty or Blacks in New Zealand. Then I'm

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Speaker 4: grabbing that opportunity with both hands. I just I think

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Speaker 4: what will happen is that experience will show and the

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Speaker 4: disparity between the two sides will at the end of

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Speaker 4: the eighty minutes tonight, and I think next week in

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Speaker 4: Wellington and in Hamilton will show. But yeah, but I

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Speaker 4: think you're possibly right. These aren't going to be seventy

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Speaker 4: eighty point thrashings. I wouldn't have thought, because there will

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Speaker 4: be a certain amount of pride in these French players

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Speaker 4: to take the opportunity that's been handed to them.

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Speaker 13: Yes, yeah, I believe so, like we might beat them,

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Speaker 13: you know, reasonably, convincingly or you know, but I still

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Speaker 13: think that it won't be a walkover. I don't think

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Speaker 13: And yeah, I think the Yeah, like I said, these

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Speaker 13: young players I'll be wanting to impress their coaches to

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Speaker 13: get a spot in the will in the Rugby World

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Speaker 13: Cup for France. But I see, I tell you it's

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Speaker 13: going to be interesting too. Like I think Artie's at

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Speaker 13: number seven, So he's at number seven, isn't he so

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Speaker 13: good to see him go there? I mean, I know

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Speaker 13: you can play number eight as well, and he's just

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Speaker 13: as good at numb eight. But I do believe he's

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Speaker 13: in number seven. And it's going to be interesting to

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Speaker 13: see the fellow out on the wing going from was

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Speaker 13: he center and to put him in the wing. I'm

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Speaker 13: glad to see Propers getting to go because last, yeah,

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Speaker 13: last Super twelve. This year, he was fantastic and I

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Speaker 13: was always wanting him to be in the selection and that, yeah,

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Speaker 13: and the Fabia how do you say his name?

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Speaker 4: Fabia told Fabian Fabian Holland.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, and Fabian Holland, and yeah, what a great story.

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Speaker 13: You can you could make a movie of that, like

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Speaker 13: the South African World Cup where they made Brad Pitton

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Speaker 13: made a movie. You can make them his story and

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Speaker 13: what a monster. I seen him on the news last

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Speaker 13: night and he was walking. He was in his house

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Speaker 13: and he was as high as the door frame. He

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Speaker 13: actually had to duck to go through the door frame.

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Speaker 13: And that's when it really struck home to me. You

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Speaker 13: know just how big he is because when I seen

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Speaker 13: him on the with some of the other all blacks

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Speaker 13: and they talk about how big is and you know

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Speaker 13: he's big, but some of the other all black that

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Speaker 13: he's standing beside, aren't that much shorter? Like last night

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Speaker 13: on the news. I thought it was one of the

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Speaker 13: pops my knew or or maybe wrong, but he was

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Speaker 13: standing beside another all black and I thought, gee, don't

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Speaker 13: look that much shorter, and he I think he's.

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Speaker 4: A prop but with you, But yeah, Phil, I've got

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Speaker 4: to move. I've got a couple of calls to get

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Speaker 4: to you, mate, But yeah, he's a big unit. He's

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Speaker 4: a very big man and that helps a lot. Two

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Speaker 4: point oh four meters I'm told by my on air

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Speaker 4: researchers here at Emerson's two point oh four meters, but yeah,

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Speaker 4: but massive and and from what I understand as well,

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Speaker 4: deeply committed. Tom donnelly actually gave him an otago debut,

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Speaker 4: the former All Black lock himself, Tom Donnelly going to

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Speaker 4: try and get him on the air actually this afternoon

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Speaker 4: and just get his early recollections of a young Fabigan

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Speaker 4: Holland felt great to Jed has always mate, Pete Hentay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm hoping that the actually the French feat they

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Speaker 2: all blacks and I don't don't really want you, but

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Speaker 2: I want to treat raised a little bit of respect.

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Speaker 2: Towards his players that have been playing the Secret travel

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Speaker 2: on that for the through through the season. Damie McKenzie

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Speaker 2: once again being dumped in Paris. I say, and he's

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Speaker 2: a better kicker than Body. You might think I'm wrong.

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Speaker 2: And and Jodie just walks in, puts on his shirt.

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Speaker 2: Where's the respect for the guys that have played in

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Speaker 2: the Secret Trawler? And you might have heard of below

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Speaker 2: us on on on the on the rat he's got

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Speaker 2: a bit of a name, and she wants the all,

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Speaker 2: but she wants the French to win as well, because

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Speaker 2: he's still got his cander research on razor he wants.

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Speaker 2: I feel sorry for Dannie McKenzie's once again.

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Speaker 4: Embarrassed, embarrassed on a bone, embarrass on a crusader though,

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Speaker 4: is he Pete? You know Bode and parents not a

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Speaker 4: There's no red and black there, you know he's he

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Speaker 4: look I over AND's got their favorites. I think Body

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Speaker 4: outplayed Damien in the in the back end of the season.

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Speaker 4: I think they walked kind of. They gave Damien the

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Speaker 4: keys to the car last year, gave him a lot

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Speaker 4: of opportunities there in the ten Jersey, and then pivoted

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Speaker 4: back to Boden at the back end of the year. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I don't mind the selection. I don't think there's any

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Speaker 4: disrespect towards the French from from Razor, I know what

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Speaker 4: you're saying and that you'd prefer to see other players there.

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Speaker 4: And from all accounts, Jeordie Barrett was lighting it up

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Speaker 4: over an island and has come back refreshed, so I'm

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Speaker 4: looking forward to seeing him tonight. But all opinions welcome, mate,

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Speaker 4: Let's have a chat tomorrow if in fact the All

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Speaker 4: Blacks do lose the game, or even if they win,

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Speaker 4: always be happy to take your call.

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Speaker 11: Well, hi, hey, planning a great show, rich the points

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Speaker 11: and some a touch I made it include you know,

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Speaker 11: the European side sending over the weekend versions of the

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Speaker 11: national side, and they've done it to us a number

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Speaker 11: of times, and well it's frustrating process fans. I guess

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Speaker 11: his advantages and disadvantages for both sides to see that.

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Speaker 11: So I mean, I just I couldn't ever never imagine

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Speaker 11: a New Zealand Rugby being sent unders drink to a

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Speaker 11: Test match. You know, that's just not in our nature.

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Speaker 11: But for these these s French sides, and I think

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Speaker 11: the Scotts have done it, Ticcee, England certainly done it

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Speaker 11: TuS as well. Isn't an opportunity to blood new talent

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Speaker 11: and it also gives us a chance to sort of

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Speaker 11: get a safe gain scenario to blood our new talent

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Speaker 11: as well.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, well it's such a yeah, well it's such

636
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Speaker 4: a good point, you mate, because I kind of see it.

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Speaker 4: It's not necessarily a free hit, but it is. Yet

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Speaker 4: this isn't the All Blacks against South Africa, or against

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Speaker 4: Ireland or against Australia. You're right, and it's I guess

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Speaker 4: the difficult balance for Razor to strike is that for us,

641
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Speaker 4: these are our first test matches of the year and

642
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Speaker 4: you always want to start as you mean to go on.

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Speaker 4: They always say you just can't hand out all Blacks jerseys.

644
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Speaker 4: But maybe, mate, I mean the fact that he is

645
00:31:53,747 --> 00:31:55,947
Speaker 4: able to mix and match. Give Farbing and Holland a

646
00:31:56,027 --> 00:31:59,947
Speaker 4: starting debut, you know, change, give give to Paul that

647
00:32:00,347 --> 00:32:02,747
Speaker 4: a go at blindside. Look, if it doesn't work, you

648
00:32:02,827 --> 00:32:05,627
Speaker 4: fail quickly and you move back to Locke. But yeah,

649
00:32:05,667 --> 00:32:08,467
Speaker 4: but it is. It must be difficult to to, you know,

650
00:32:08,627 --> 00:32:10,747
Speaker 4: to go up against a team that you know you

651
00:32:10,867 --> 00:32:13,867
Speaker 4: should on any given day put thirty on, you know,

652
00:32:13,987 --> 00:32:16,027
Speaker 4: in terms of a winning margin comfortably.

653
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Speaker 11: And if you're a young French player today, this is

654
00:32:19,747 --> 00:32:22,267
Speaker 11: a moment for you, right, this is going to really

655
00:32:22,307 --> 00:32:24,707
Speaker 11: submit this experience and you're you're always going to have

656
00:32:24,827 --> 00:32:28,147
Speaker 11: this experience to lean on in your in tough times

657
00:32:28,187 --> 00:32:30,267
Speaker 11: in your career head. So it's a wonderful thing for

658
00:32:30,347 --> 00:32:32,987
Speaker 11: them as well. The other point you made made that

659
00:32:33,067 --> 00:32:36,107
Speaker 11: I wanted to touch on is other than Wellington. And

660
00:32:36,307 --> 00:32:37,947
Speaker 11: while we you know, we live up in the coast,

661
00:32:38,027 --> 00:32:39,787
Speaker 11: it's a bit war more up here. We're still own

662
00:32:39,827 --> 00:32:42,467
Speaker 11: a pup in Kwori. We're not going into that game

663
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Speaker 11: because it's so cold. And I remember this match we however,

664
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Speaker 11: I think it was in Ireland years and years ago.

665
00:32:48,987 --> 00:32:51,427
Speaker 11: It was so freezing. I just I just couldn't enjoy it.

666
00:32:51,627 --> 00:32:55,467
Speaker 11: It wasn't a fun environment. And walking back you saw

667
00:32:56,347 --> 00:33:00,387
Speaker 11: everybody just miserable and cold, and they interviewed poor Briano

668
00:33:00,587 --> 00:33:02,387
Speaker 11: just go last of the game and he was he

669
00:33:02,507 --> 00:33:05,307
Speaker 11: was shivering, his whole body was just frozen. I just

670
00:33:05,427 --> 00:33:07,147
Speaker 11: remember thinking, I never want to turn back to a

671
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Speaker 11: one to test that montin.

672
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Speaker 10: Season.

673
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Speaker 11: I'm so staked. The talk back season again.

674
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Speaker 4: Yeah good, yeah, great detence to you mate, thanks for

675
00:33:16,507 --> 00:33:18,907
Speaker 4: calling and I really appreciate your analysis and your kind words.

676
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

677
00:33:19,547 --> 00:33:22,907
Speaker 4: Look for me, just play the play the tests in

678
00:33:23,027 --> 00:33:27,627
Speaker 4: July under roofs. It makes sense. Look, you know it

679
00:33:27,627 --> 00:33:30,307
Speaker 4: doesn't mean Wellington can't have a Test match and I

680
00:33:30,387 --> 00:33:32,587
Speaker 4: know it doesn't get much warmer really once you get

681
00:33:32,587 --> 00:33:36,267
Speaker 4: into August. But you know the July Tests are usually

682
00:33:36,347 --> 00:33:38,987
Speaker 4: a visit from a northern Hemisphere side, all right, like

683
00:33:39,067 --> 00:33:42,307
Speaker 4: in France, like England last year, like Ireland in twenty

684
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Speaker 4: twenty two. If you're going to be playing test rugby

685
00:33:45,707 --> 00:33:49,147
Speaker 4: in July, play it under a roof and soon we're

686
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Speaker 4: going to have two options for that, Dunedin and christ Church.

687
00:33:52,627 --> 00:33:55,107
Speaker 4: So two of the tests in July, if there are two,

688
00:33:55,227 --> 00:33:57,707
Speaker 4: they should be in those two places. If there are three,

689
00:33:57,787 --> 00:33:59,867
Speaker 4: then your farm, the other one out somewhere else. But

690
00:34:00,067 --> 00:34:03,267
Speaker 4: for me, Dunedan shouldn't suffer from the arrival of christ

691
00:34:03,347 --> 00:34:07,867
Speaker 4: Church's new stadium. Dunedan should still host test matches every year,

692
00:34:08,307 --> 00:34:11,467
Speaker 4: and at this time of the year every year. Oh

693
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Speaker 4: eight hundred and eighty, ten eighty and number seventeen away

694
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Speaker 4: from one back with more after this.

695
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Speaker 1: You be the TMO have your say on eight hundred

696
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Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty Weekends Sport with Jason Paine and GJ. Garvnerholmes,

697
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Speaker 1: New Zealand's most trusted owned builder News Dogs.

698
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Speaker 4: There'd be thirteen away from one as we come to

699
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Speaker 4: your life from Emerson's Brewery and Pub in danneed head

700
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Speaker 4: of the first Test of the year tonight about six

701
00:34:36,027 --> 00:34:38,347
Speaker 4: hundred meters down the road at Forsyth's Bar Stadium. Let's

702
00:34:38,347 --> 00:34:41,787
Speaker 4: bring in fifteen test former All Blacks locked Tom Donnelly.

703
00:34:42,347 --> 00:34:45,547
Speaker 4: Fourteen of those fifteen tests were All Blacks wins. He

704
00:34:45,707 --> 00:34:48,347
Speaker 4: was a stalwart for Otago and the Highlanders, also played

705
00:34:48,387 --> 00:34:50,987
Speaker 4: some Super rug before the Crusaders and the Blues had

706
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Speaker 4: time in France, and then moved into coaching with Otago

707
00:34:54,587 --> 00:34:56,827
Speaker 4: and the Highlanders and now the Western Force. He was

708
00:34:56,867 --> 00:34:59,667
Speaker 4: the Otago head coach who gave both Fabi and Holland

709
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Speaker 4: and Christian Leo Willie their provincial debuts. Tonight, they'll both

710
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Speaker 4: make their All Blacks debuts here in Dunedin. Thanks for

711
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Speaker 4: joining us, Tom. Let's start with Fabian. Can you tell

712
00:35:08,627 --> 00:35:11,787
Speaker 4: us about his arrival at Otago? Excuse me and what

713
00:35:11,867 --> 00:35:13,347
Speaker 4: you've seen from him since.

714
00:35:15,027 --> 00:35:19,507
Speaker 14: Yeah, hello anstruction there mate. Yeah, Big Fabian came to

715
00:35:19,987 --> 00:35:22,507
Speaker 14: a training when he was still at school in Christious

716
00:35:22,627 --> 00:35:27,187
Speaker 14: Boys with Cam McIntyre's agent. Obviously he'd have a look

717
00:35:27,187 --> 00:35:30,147
Speaker 14: around and just as CS, size is probably the first

718
00:35:30,147 --> 00:35:33,467
Speaker 14: thing that catched you back. He's a big man and

719
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Speaker 14: anyone knows you can't coach size, and but his attitude

720
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Speaker 14: and as characters, what's on through what's it about an

721
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Speaker 14: hour sub media? As an absolute champion of a person

722
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Speaker 14: and his dedication to trying to one be a great

723
00:35:48,987 --> 00:35:51,627
Speaker 14: and he also had a massive rodin has been to.

724
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Speaker 4: See you talk about not being able to coach size

725
00:35:54,187 --> 00:35:56,307
Speaker 4: and that's so right, But you must have seen big

726
00:35:56,427 --> 00:35:58,827
Speaker 4: men who haven't kicked on in the way that that

727
00:35:58,947 --> 00:36:03,787
Speaker 4: Fabian has. So what is the best use of size

728
00:36:04,067 --> 00:36:06,707
Speaker 4: as a as an elite rugby player and especially a lock.

729
00:36:08,667 --> 00:36:11,507
Speaker 14: It's your work ethic as well and your hand eye coordination.

730
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Speaker 14: He had a lot of joys to be quite cumsy.

731
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Speaker 14: His dedications has catch passed as little soft skills was

732
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Speaker 14: enormous made him was what's made as as a treat players.

733
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Speaker 14: He's just dedicated to everything he does.

734
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Speaker 4: And well, from what you're saying you always felt like

735
00:36:29,027 --> 00:36:32,267
Speaker 4: he had he headed at him to push on. Do

736
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Speaker 4: you feel like he's got a high ceiling? He'll debut

737
00:36:35,147 --> 00:36:36,987
Speaker 4: for the All Blacks to Night? Could he be a

738
00:36:37,107 --> 00:36:38,347
Speaker 4: long term All Black?

739
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Speaker 12: Oh?

740
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Speaker 14: I love I think the balls and has Crawdy has

741
00:36:41,747 --> 00:36:44,227
Speaker 14: definitely got the ability and the attitude to do it

742
00:36:44,307 --> 00:36:47,507
Speaker 14: made It would just be hopefully he's die and relax

743
00:36:47,587 --> 00:36:48,147
Speaker 14: and go out there and.

744
00:36:48,187 --> 00:36:50,347
Speaker 10: Do his job and hopefully you're having a joyban night.

745
00:36:50,827 --> 00:36:53,747
Speaker 4: And Christian Leo Willie, what are your early memories of him?

746
00:36:54,987 --> 00:36:57,307
Speaker 14: Yeah, Mayber going down and watching this credit club rugby

747
00:36:57,387 --> 00:37:01,507
Speaker 14: who was phenomenally powerful. Quite hard to track down for

748
00:37:01,547 --> 00:37:02,867
Speaker 14: a start, because I don't know how much of the

749
00:37:02,907 --> 00:37:05,747
Speaker 14: story's been told. But he sort of told his mother that.

750
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Speaker 10: He wouldn't play when he went to the Need and

751
00:37:08,267 --> 00:37:10,827
Speaker 10: his studies and so he was under the radar for

752
00:37:10,867 --> 00:37:11,507
Speaker 10: a week bit there.

753
00:37:12,907 --> 00:37:16,187
Speaker 14: But just a phenomenal athlete like Paul and hands stuff

754
00:37:16,267 --> 00:37:17,307
Speaker 14: was phenomenal cover up.

755
00:37:17,987 --> 00:37:20,787
Speaker 4: So he went into Need and what to study. Dentistries

756
00:37:20,867 --> 00:37:23,467
Speaker 4: supposedly said to his mum, I'm not going to play

757
00:37:23,507 --> 00:37:26,227
Speaker 4: any rugby down there. I'll concentrate on my studies. Plays

758
00:37:26,307 --> 00:37:28,187
Speaker 4: rugby gets spotted by you and then all of a

759
00:37:28,227 --> 00:37:30,147
Speaker 4: sudden he's in the Otago setup.

760
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Speaker 14: Yeah, well, lucky enough. I'm not supposing he's actually finished

761
00:37:33,907 --> 00:37:36,427
Speaker 14: his industry the green now as well. We're then allowed

762
00:37:36,507 --> 00:37:38,347
Speaker 14: him to kick a bit more into his footage. But yeah,

763
00:37:38,507 --> 00:37:39,947
Speaker 14: that's sort of the background of story.

764
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Speaker 4: He was initially named his injury cover for this All

765
00:37:42,667 --> 00:37:45,307
Speaker 4: Black squad, of course, but here he is starting tonight.

766
00:37:45,427 --> 00:37:47,627
Speaker 4: So what would you be expecting to see from him

767
00:37:48,027 --> 00:37:49,227
Speaker 4: on test Dayboo.

768
00:37:50,267 --> 00:37:52,107
Speaker 14: You'll see named him what he's seen through all year

769
00:37:52,187 --> 00:37:54,987
Speaker 14: with the Crusaders held capable, strong, and his work great

770
00:37:54,987 --> 00:37:58,147
Speaker 14: will be phenomenal. He's got great aerial skills, so I

771
00:37:58,147 --> 00:38:02,427
Speaker 14: wouldn't be surprised to see him in the line out. Yeah,

772
00:38:02,467 --> 00:38:05,227
Speaker 14: he'll be fantastic. So he's got a great opportunity for him.

773
00:38:05,587 --> 00:38:07,747
Speaker 4: And as far as the All Blacks are concerned, it's

774
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Speaker 4: against a French side that we all know has been

775
00:38:10,987 --> 00:38:13,747
Speaker 4: has been talked about as being under strength. What do

776
00:38:13,867 --> 00:38:16,387
Speaker 4: you want to see from the All Blacks tonight? Tom,

777
00:38:16,427 --> 00:38:18,307
Speaker 4: That would I guess, as an All Blacks fan like

778
00:38:18,347 --> 00:38:20,387
Speaker 4: the rest of us, make you think that things are

779
00:38:20,427 --> 00:38:21,867
Speaker 4: going to be okay in twenty twenty five.

780
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Speaker 14: Uh yeah, I think they'll be fine. I've obviously worked

781
00:38:26,387 --> 00:38:28,867
Speaker 14: pretty hard, but a cohesion we'll be putt of the

782
00:38:28,907 --> 00:38:32,147
Speaker 14: hardest thing. Roland haven't played together, so you might see

783
00:38:32,147 --> 00:38:35,187
Speaker 14: a little bit of less of that time. But obviously

784
00:38:35,227 --> 00:38:37,187
Speaker 14: there's your natural be as long as I've got there

785
00:38:37,347 --> 00:38:39,427
Speaker 14: even use time.

786
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Speaker 4: And yet sometime playing in France yourself. Of course, the side,

787
00:38:41,827 --> 00:38:45,227
Speaker 4: as I say, looks under strength and inexperience. But might

788
00:38:45,307 --> 00:38:48,067
Speaker 4: they present a threat across these three test matches?

789
00:38:49,027 --> 00:38:54,067
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, very very dangerous, an undervalued or rated French

790
00:38:54,147 --> 00:38:57,627
Speaker 14: team and I've got nothing to play for us when

791
00:38:57,627 --> 00:39:01,627
Speaker 14: they played on their disbuddy sometimes So even though they

792
00:39:01,707 --> 00:39:03,827
Speaker 14: say they're under strength and as put, what they've done

793
00:39:04,067 --> 00:39:06,187
Speaker 14: just finished the Premier competition.

794
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Speaker 2: But the guys, I think you'll.

795
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Speaker 10: Still be excellent by and just to finish.

796
00:39:10,547 --> 00:39:13,627
Speaker 4: When you do see Fabian and Christian run out tonight,

797
00:39:13,907 --> 00:39:16,627
Speaker 4: does that give you a tinge of pride? You know

798
00:39:16,707 --> 00:39:18,347
Speaker 4: the part that you played in their development?

799
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Speaker 11: Oh one?

800
00:39:20,427 --> 00:39:22,587
Speaker 14: I like the whole part of us as coaches is

801
00:39:22,627 --> 00:39:26,267
Speaker 14: watching young men development tore great people and great players,

802
00:39:26,307 --> 00:39:28,747
Speaker 14: and to see them move on to be selected for

803
00:39:30,027 --> 00:39:32,867
Speaker 14: the All Blacks and Internationals. Yeah, of course made the

804
00:39:32,947 --> 00:39:36,267
Speaker 14: sights and your kids really beshn really well.

805
00:39:36,907 --> 00:39:38,947
Speaker 4: Wonderful insight. Tom, Thanks so much for joining us on

806
00:39:38,987 --> 00:39:40,707
Speaker 4: match day. We look forward to seeing how Fabian and

807
00:39:40,787 --> 00:39:43,307
Speaker 4: Christian go tonight. Really appreciate you taking the time for

808
00:39:43,347 --> 00:39:43,667
Speaker 4: a chat.

809
00:39:44,627 --> 00:39:46,587
Speaker 3: Laura pol might enjoy it, well.

810
00:39:46,507 --> 00:39:49,507
Speaker 4: Enjoy it indeed, Thanks indeed, Tom, Tom Donnelly, their former

811
00:39:49,867 --> 00:39:53,347
Speaker 4: All Blacks Locke and moved into coaching and gave both

812
00:39:53,827 --> 00:39:57,227
Speaker 4: Fabian Holland and Christian Leo Willie their Otago deboos, and

813
00:39:57,307 --> 00:40:00,227
Speaker 4: tonight here in Dunedin they will make their Test day

814
00:40:00,267 --> 00:40:03,947
Speaker 4: boos together. The first time I read this week since

815
00:40:04,067 --> 00:40:09,107
Speaker 4: twenty twelve that two Otago players will feature in a

816
00:40:09,187 --> 00:40:13,347
Speaker 4: starting fifteen for the All Blacks. That seems crazy. It's

817
00:40:13,387 --> 00:40:17,787
Speaker 4: been thirteen years since two Otago players will feature in

818
00:40:17,827 --> 00:40:20,267
Speaker 4: the same All Blacks starting fifteen. But here we are,

819
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Speaker 4: and it'll happen tonight at forsythe Bar Stadium in Dunedin

820
00:40:24,507 --> 00:40:27,227
Speaker 4: thirteen No, just seven minutes away from one. We're back

821
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Speaker 4: after this on Newstalks EDB.

822
00:40:31,027 --> 00:40:34,947
Speaker 3: It's more than just a game. Weekend sport with Jason

823
00:40:35,027 --> 00:40:36,067
Speaker 3: Vine and GJ.

824
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Speaker 1: Garnomes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder News talks.

825
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Speaker 4: MB four to one as we build towards kickoff tonight

826
00:40:42,507 --> 00:40:44,587
Speaker 4: just after seven o'clock at four sized bar Stadium, all

827
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Speaker 4: Blacks against France. We're coming to your life from Emerson's

828
00:40:47,027 --> 00:40:49,787
Speaker 4: Brewery in Duneeda, which is starting to fill up. We're

829
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Speaker 4: going to shift our attention after one to the Tour

830
00:40:52,387 --> 00:40:55,907
Speaker 4: de France. Sam Buley, who is a sporting director of

831
00:40:56,467 --> 00:40:59,187
Speaker 4: one of the teams, the Israel Premier Tech Team, is

832
00:40:59,187 --> 00:41:02,107
Speaker 4: going to join us. Final couple of texts though, regarding

833
00:41:02,627 --> 00:41:05,107
Speaker 4: where test matches should be played in the month of July,

834
00:41:05,267 --> 00:41:07,107
Speaker 4: Joseph's bang on Jason the light test need to be

835
00:41:07,187 --> 00:41:10,627
Speaker 4: under a roof every year come Championship games. The outdoor

836
00:41:10,667 --> 00:41:14,827
Speaker 4: stadia with games in August and September more suitable as

837
00:41:14,907 --> 00:41:17,627
Speaker 4: it's getting closer to spring. But Peter's given us the

838
00:41:17,667 --> 00:41:19,427
Speaker 4: contrary view, and it's a good one as well. Peter

839
00:41:19,507 --> 00:41:21,347
Speaker 4: says one of the great things about rugby is being

840
00:41:21,387 --> 00:41:24,387
Speaker 4: played in a wide variety of weather conditions. Under the

841
00:41:24,467 --> 00:41:27,107
Speaker 4: roof can be a bit sterile. Yep, good point, well

842
00:41:27,187 --> 00:41:29,707
Speaker 4: made Sam. Purely after one o'clock.

843
00:41:38,427 --> 00:41:39,827
Speaker 2: Isab Union.

844
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Speaker 1: Had a new era of All.

845
00:41:43,867 --> 00:41:45,507
Speaker 3: Blacks rugby is underway.

846
00:41:51,387 --> 00:41:53,827
Speaker 1: Counting down to the All Blacks First Test of twenty

847
00:41:53,907 --> 00:41:58,067
Speaker 1: twenty five. It's Weekend Scored with Jason Pine live from

848
00:41:58,227 --> 00:42:02,587
Speaker 1: Emerson's Brewery and Anita on your home of Sport News Talks.

849
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Speaker 4: EDB one eight on News Talks EDB. This is weekid Sport.

850
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Speaker 4: If I could have written a script for where I

851
00:42:10,147 --> 00:42:13,027
Speaker 4: would be at this time on the day of the

852
00:42:13,067 --> 00:42:15,227
Speaker 4: First Test Match of twenty twenty five, it would be

853
00:42:15,347 --> 00:42:20,107
Speaker 4: here at Emerson's in Duneda. And this place is magnificent.

854
00:42:20,787 --> 00:42:23,947
Speaker 4: It's been open. The brewery was founded in nineteen ninety

855
00:42:23,947 --> 00:42:26,267
Speaker 4: two by Richard Emerson. A lot of people probably know

856
00:42:26,747 --> 00:42:29,907
Speaker 4: the history. But the pub that we're in, which is

857
00:42:30,347 --> 00:42:34,427
Speaker 4: starting to raally fill up, opened nine years ago yesterday,

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Speaker 4: the fourth of July twenty sixteen, so we can celebrate

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Speaker 4: it's nine year anniversary. We've already started to negotiate a

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Speaker 4: return for the ten year anniversary next year. But the

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Speaker 4: place is terrific. People of all shapes and sizes have

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Speaker 4: started to wander in to enjoy some lunch, a little

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Speaker 4: bit of pre Test match conviviality and foreside bar stadium

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Speaker 4: for those who don't know Duneda and is only about

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Speaker 4: six hundred meters from here. It's a very comfortable ten

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Speaker 4: minute walk down the road to the marvelous far Stadium,

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Speaker 4: which opens, of course in twenty eleven and has been

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Speaker 4: hosting Test matches ever since. And we'll again tonight host

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Speaker 4: the first Test match of the year, as it did

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Speaker 4: last year. The first Test of last year races first.

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Speaker 4: As All Blacks coach you might remember, was here in

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Speaker 4: Dunedin against England sixteen fifteen. The All Blacks one.

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Speaker 8: That one.

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Speaker 4: You'd have to think it'll be a bit more convincing tonight,

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Speaker 4: but who knows. Rugby's a funny game and the French

876
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Speaker 4: are a funny rugby team. More rugby to come across

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Speaker 4: the afternoon. This how I'm going to talk to it

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Speaker 4: in France in a moment, and then joined by a

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Speaker 4: bloke who's about to go to get this his sixth,

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Speaker 4: his sixth Paralympic Games, six ones beyond most people. Adam

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Speaker 4: Hall Pariski are going to jump in and have a

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Speaker 4: chat to us. He's from Dunedin, he's here already. Good

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Speaker 4: to see you mate. We'll I've had them all on

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Speaker 4: the show. In a short, short time. Adam Peacock out

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Speaker 4: of Australia as well your cause and correspondent's always welcome

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Speaker 4: on the show. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 4: nineteen ninety two if you'd like to send them in

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Speaker 4: by text or emails into Jason at Newstalks dot co

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Speaker 4: dot nz. But one of the planet's most iconic sporting

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Speaker 4: events is underway. Tonight's our time, the one hundred and

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Speaker 4: twelfth running of cycling's Tour de France. It starts in

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Speaker 4: Lille and finishes along the Champslice in Paris on Sunday,

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Speaker 4: July twenty seven. A great pleasure to welcome in kiw

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Speaker 4: Sam Beuley, double Olympic medallist, former elite cyclist, including the

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Speaker 4: Tour de France among multiple Grand tours he competed in cycling,

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Speaker 4: podcaster and now director of Sport for the Israel Premiere

897
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Speaker 4: Tech Team, one of the entrants in this year's Tour

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Speaker 4: de France. Sam, Thanks for joining us, mate. Let's start

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Speaker 4: with your role as director of sport. What does that

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Speaker 4: actually involve?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, thanks for having me on. Looking forward to the

902
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Speaker 15: Tour de France that it once is a ride, have

903
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Speaker 15: done it once? As a sports director. This is my

904
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Speaker 15: second time now. So basically what we're what we're doing

905
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Speaker 15: here is we're just we're looking after the riders from

906
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Speaker 15: in every way we can. But obviously the main focus

907
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Speaker 15: for us is the is the strategy how we're going

908
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Speaker 15: to try to win stages, which is our goal here

909
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Speaker 15: at the tour. Looking into all the finer details, the

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Speaker 15: roster selection, you know what, which riders do we have here,

911
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Speaker 15: why do we have them here, and all of those

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Speaker 15: little things. So ultimately we're here to try to direct

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Speaker 15: the guys in the right direction to to try to

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Speaker 15: win a stage, from from the pre race planning to

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Speaker 15: d in the race, in the race car, on the

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Speaker 15: on the rider radio.

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Speaker 4: How much does your experience on the tour and other

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Speaker 4: tours as well help in terms of preparing your riders

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Speaker 4: in the best possible way once you move into a

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Speaker 4: sporting direction role.

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Speaker 15: I think I think past experience to bike rider is

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Speaker 15: is hugely impactful. Actually when you're when you're a sports director,

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Speaker 15: it's you kind of you can see things a little

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Speaker 15: bit from the human side. It's it's quite easy, it's

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Speaker 15: quite easy to sit in the back of behind behind

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Speaker 15: the bunch in the in the team car and try

927
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Speaker 15: and play PlayStation, but it's just not how it works unfortunately.

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Speaker 15: So it's it's I think having that experience and understanding

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Speaker 15: how bike racing work, especially especially in this modern world

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Speaker 15: of cycling. It's just evolving so quickly. It's so fast.

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Speaker 15: The strategies are different than they used to be, so

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Speaker 15: so it's important to have that understanding of of of

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Speaker 15: real world cycling, and I think the riders respect that

934
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Speaker 15: as well, and they understand that I've been I've been

935
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Speaker 15: in this position myself and nine times out of ten

936
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Speaker 15: I came out second pest, So you kind of have

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Speaker 15: you kind of had that experience and understanding about how

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Speaker 15: tough it is to win, especially the Tilt of France.

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Speaker 15: It's even the Toil of France compared to the other

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Speaker 15: Grand Tours to Jiraitalia or the Wild trustpun Is, it's

941
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Speaker 15: a different beast. Especially it's going to be this It's

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Speaker 15: going to be the same this year with this first

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Speaker 15: week up in northern France. Super stressful, small roads, lots

944
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Speaker 15: of traffic, islands and roundabouts and hopefully not too many,

945
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Speaker 15: but I'm sure there'll be a few crashes as well.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned their strategy and how strategies have changed. Can

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Speaker 4: you just unpack that for us about Sam? How have

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Speaker 4: they changed? What's different now than it was five, ten,

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Speaker 4: fifteen years ago.

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Speaker 15: I think the biggest thing is just that the champions

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Speaker 15: now are the guys that are winning the most. They're

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Speaker 15: also young. When I first turned professional, when I was

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Speaker 15: twenty one years old, it wasn't even an option to

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Speaker 15: go to a Grand Tour. You know, you had to

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Speaker 15: you had to do your apprenticeship a little bit and

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Speaker 15: start with the smaller races, and as you got older

957
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Speaker 15: and a little bit stronger and a little bit more

958
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Speaker 15: experienced than you've got the chance to go to the

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Speaker 15: Grand tours. Whereas nowadays the guys winning the Grand Tours

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Speaker 15: of that age or even younger at times. So you know,

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Speaker 15: this youthful exuberance these guys are coming. They're coming out

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Speaker 15: of the junior ranks or out of the under twenty

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Speaker 15: three ranks, and they're winning straight away. So there's the

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Speaker 15: hierarchy of cycling has kind of gone in some degree.

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Speaker 15: You know, every young rider that turns professional thinks they're

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Speaker 15: capable of winning, and they want to win, and they

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Speaker 15: want to race in a way that they can win.

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Speaker 15: So it's a lot more aggressive style of racing. It's

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Speaker 15: a lot faster. Races are starting from from a long

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Speaker 15: way out now, you know, like traditionally that there'd be

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Speaker 15: there'd be a structure to a bike crasis, the start

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Speaker 15: would happen for a few kilometers, a little breakaway would go,

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Speaker 15: a team would control it and then and then we'd

974
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Speaker 15: race in the final part of the stage. But nowadays

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Speaker 15: that's just racing from from kilometer zero all the way

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Speaker 15: to the finish line. And obviously today Pagacha, who's could

977
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Speaker 15: be the best cyclist that's ever lived or head and

978
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Speaker 15: heading that way at least you know his dominance is

979
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Speaker 15: also changing strategies because other teams and competitors have to

980
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Speaker 15: look at different ways to try to beat them because

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Speaker 15: it's not so easy to beat them when you just

982
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Speaker 15: get to the last climb and try and race him

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Speaker 15: from bottom to the top.

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Speaker 4: You had Derek g of course, get an impressive fourth

985
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Speaker 4: at the zero. Recently he's not on the Tour de France.

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Speaker 4: So does that mean that you don't target the yellow jersey?

987
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Speaker 4: That stage wins are what you're all about exactly.

988
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Speaker 10: We're we're here for stage wins.

989
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Speaker 15: We've we've brought quite a different team to what we

990
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Speaker 15: to what we had at the Giro, for example, to

991
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Speaker 15: support Derek. So it's all about it's all about stage

992
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Speaker 15: wins and trying to have a diverse group that's capable

993
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Speaker 15: of winning on different terrains, and that's why we're here.

994
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Speaker 15: At the end of the day, the yellow jersey could

995
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Speaker 15: still be possible. The first stage is a bunch sprint.

996
00:49:15,267 --> 00:49:18,827
Speaker 15: We've got Pascal Lachman here who's our main sprinter in

997
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Speaker 15: our team, so he's here to try to try to

998
00:49:22,187 --> 00:49:23,947
Speaker 15: win the sprint stages and if he wins the first one,

999
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Speaker 15: he gets the yellow jersey. But there's definitely no no

1000
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Speaker 15: ambitions of having a high GC result once we get

1001
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Speaker 15: to Paris. It's all just about trying to pick off

1002
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Speaker 15: the stages that suit us and hopefully hopefully walk away

1003
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Speaker 15: in three weeks time with at least one.

1004
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Speaker 4: You're planning, I'm sure as metronomic you know before the

1005
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Speaker 4: race starts and here we are it's just about to begin.

1006
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Speaker 4: How much do your plans change, Sam over the three weeks?

1007
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Speaker 4: You know, if we get to three weeks from now,

1008
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Speaker 4: will we get to the Champsalis on the twenty seventh

1009
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Speaker 4: and look back, will it have gone to plan? Probably

1010
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Speaker 4: or not?

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Speaker 15: Probably not the yeah, yeah, You've got to be in

1012
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Speaker 15: these long and these long three week races, you have

1013
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Speaker 15: to be. You have to be ready to adapt on

1014
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Speaker 15: a dime, you know, because the anything is in the

1015
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Speaker 15: same position. You come here with the leader. We come

1016
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Speaker 15: here with with Pascal Ackman. It's our main guy for

1017
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Speaker 15: the bunch prints and there's six opportunities for him. But

1018
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Speaker 15: if you if you lose them on the first day

1019
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Speaker 15: from a bit crash, then you have to you have

1020
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Speaker 15: to switch. You have to make you have to come

1021
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Speaker 15: up with different ideas and different ways to try to

1022
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Speaker 15: win stages. And uh, it's it's likely that that our

1023
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Speaker 15: team and other teams are going to are going to

1024
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Speaker 15: have bad moments where you know, sickness comes in or

1025
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Speaker 15: there's crashes and injuries and you lose riders. Hopefully not,

1026
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Speaker 15: but it's always possible and you have to be you

1027
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Speaker 15: have to be pretty quick to adapt and react to

1028
00:50:43,747 --> 00:50:46,267
Speaker 15: those situations. You've got to get the guys motivated again,

1029
00:50:46,347 --> 00:50:49,187
Speaker 15: get them aspired again, get them back on track when

1030
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Speaker 15: things don't go well. So you do have to be

1031
00:50:51,707 --> 00:50:53,467
Speaker 15: you do have to be pretty adaptable in these in

1032
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Speaker 15: these three week races, and and that that's the same

1033
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Speaker 15: for a team riding for to try to win until

1034
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Speaker 15: to France or a team that's just trying to win stages.

1035
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Speaker 4: You've got a couple of key wes in the in

1036
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Speaker 4: the team with you, but you haven't selected them for

1037
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Speaker 4: the tour. George Bennett and Corbyn Strong. How tough are

1038
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Speaker 4: those conversations for you?

1039
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Speaker 16: Uh?

1040
00:51:11,507 --> 00:51:14,147
Speaker 15: Yeah, George was especially tough. It was never it was

1041
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Speaker 15: never in Corbyn's plan this year. The plan for him

1042
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Speaker 15: was to go the Jyra, which he did and came

1043
00:51:18,227 --> 00:51:20,347
Speaker 15: close to winning the stage there. So the Tour ti

1044
00:51:20,427 --> 00:51:23,547
Speaker 15: de France wasn't on his on his program this year,

1045
00:51:23,907 --> 00:51:26,067
Speaker 15: and that changes year by year based on the courses,

1046
00:51:26,147 --> 00:51:30,187
Speaker 15: based on our on our team's ambitions. But George certainly

1047
00:51:30,347 --> 00:51:32,427
Speaker 15: was was was gunning for the Tour de France and

1048
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Speaker 15: it wasn't. It wasn't an easy decision made by the

1049
00:51:35,547 --> 00:51:38,787
Speaker 15: by the performance group. And yeah, it's tough because he's

1050
00:51:38,827 --> 00:51:40,107
Speaker 15: one of my best mates as well, so you have

1051
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Speaker 15: to you have to have those conversations with him from

1052
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Speaker 15: a from a human side, been trying to be a

1053
00:51:45,187 --> 00:51:46,867
Speaker 15: friend and support him so and then try to be

1054
00:51:46,947 --> 00:51:50,267
Speaker 15: professional and make the right decisions and explain why those

1055
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Speaker 15: decisions have been made. So it was it was definitely

1056
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Speaker 15: tough to leave George at home. Would have would have

1057
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Speaker 15: been great if he didn't have to, but he's he's

1058
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Speaker 15: still he's still on track for some big races coming

1059
00:51:59,747 --> 00:52:00,787
Speaker 15: up this year and.

1060
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Speaker 4: Across at red Ball. That leaves Lawrence Pithy is the

1061
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Speaker 4: only key we competing in the tour this year. Do

1062
00:52:05,747 --> 00:52:07,547
Speaker 4: you do you keep half an eye on him being

1063
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Speaker 4: a fellow New Zealander.

1064
00:52:09,907 --> 00:52:12,107
Speaker 15: Yeah, definitely try to keep an eye on all the keys,

1065
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Speaker 15: but Lawrence especially. He's a super young, talented guy. He's

1066
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Speaker 15: he had a big breakthrough season last year and he's

1067
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Speaker 15: been writing really well this year and his new team

1068
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Speaker 15: in Bora Red Bull, and the first six or seven

1069
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Speaker 15: days of this Tour de France really suits his start

1070
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Speaker 15: of writing. He's obviously here in a support role for

1071
00:52:32,347 --> 00:52:35,067
Speaker 15: pretty much Roglic who's he's coming here to try to

1072
00:52:35,107 --> 00:52:36,987
Speaker 15: win tworl of France, so that would be his primary

1073
00:52:37,147 --> 00:52:39,707
Speaker 15: objective to support him, but he's also the kind of

1074
00:52:39,787 --> 00:52:42,587
Speaker 15: writer who, like I say, he suits the start of racing.

1075
00:52:42,667 --> 00:52:44,107
Speaker 15: In the first week of the Tour de France, and

1076
00:52:45,067 --> 00:52:48,067
Speaker 15: he's getting better and better every year, so I wouldn't

1077
00:52:48,067 --> 00:52:50,267
Speaker 15: be surprised when New Zealand shouldn't be surprised if you

1078
00:52:50,307 --> 00:52:52,427
Speaker 15: see him, see him up there fighting for his own

1079
00:52:52,427 --> 00:52:53,667
Speaker 15: stage ones outstanding.

1080
00:52:54,427 --> 00:52:58,427
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the iconic stages through the Pyrenees. How much

1081
00:52:58,507 --> 00:52:59,867
Speaker 4: do you look forward to those? Or is that the

1082
00:52:59,947 --> 00:53:02,707
Speaker 4: wrong phrase? Do you do you know, have a sense

1083
00:53:02,747 --> 00:53:06,227
Speaker 4: of dread around those stages as well? Or do the writers?

1084
00:53:07,867 --> 00:53:09,947
Speaker 15: The writers probably do. I don't say much anymore. I

1085
00:53:10,067 --> 00:53:13,467
Speaker 15: used to, but they they're they're a little bit easier

1086
00:53:13,507 --> 00:53:15,867
Speaker 15: for me now. But now that I do look, I

1087
00:53:15,907 --> 00:53:17,507
Speaker 15: do look forward to those stages. I think at the

1088
00:53:17,627 --> 00:53:19,467
Speaker 15: end of the day that the Til de France is

1089
00:53:19,467 --> 00:53:21,067
Speaker 15: the Til To France is the biggest bi cration in

1090
00:53:21,107 --> 00:53:22,987
Speaker 15: the world, one of the biggest sporting events in the world.

1091
00:53:23,027 --> 00:53:25,307
Speaker 15: And and like you say, those stages in the Pyrenees

1092
00:53:25,347 --> 00:53:27,827
Speaker 15: and the Alps are what make this what make this

1093
00:53:27,987 --> 00:53:31,467
Speaker 15: race iconic. Yeah, this first this first week is going

1094
00:53:31,507 --> 00:53:34,187
Speaker 15: to be stressful. I think a lot of teams, including ours,

1095
00:53:34,227 --> 00:53:37,427
Speaker 15: are looking forward to so having a crack at trying

1096
00:53:37,427 --> 00:53:39,507
Speaker 15: to win, to win some of these stages. But ultimately

1097
00:53:39,587 --> 00:53:41,907
Speaker 15: probably looking forward to getting out of out of northern

1098
00:53:41,947 --> 00:53:44,587
Speaker 15: France and down into the Pyrenees, where where the racing

1099
00:53:44,707 --> 00:53:48,147
Speaker 15: is a bit more historical, everybody understands how those mountains work,

1100
00:53:48,187 --> 00:53:50,307
Speaker 15: and a bit more familiar and a little bit a

1101
00:53:50,347 --> 00:53:52,667
Speaker 15: little bit safer in some ways as well. So looking

1102
00:53:52,707 --> 00:53:54,907
Speaker 15: forward to getting down there and getting into those stages

1103
00:53:54,987 --> 00:53:56,987
Speaker 15: and just that that's where you really feel like you're

1104
00:53:56,987 --> 00:53:59,067
Speaker 15: at the tild of France. The big crowds, the you know,

1105
00:53:59,107 --> 00:54:00,707
Speaker 15: the barbecues on the side of the road, all of

1106
00:54:00,747 --> 00:54:04,507
Speaker 15: that stuff, the passionate spectators. So uh, those those stages

1107
00:54:04,547 --> 00:54:06,227
Speaker 15: are certainly ones that I think everybody.

1108
00:54:05,987 --> 00:54:07,267
Speaker 3: Looks for the Tour de France.

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00:54:07,787 --> 00:54:09,627
Speaker 4: Just to finish, Sam, can you put into context for

1110
00:54:09,747 --> 00:54:12,827
Speaker 4: us just how big the Tour de France is. You know,

1111
00:54:13,107 --> 00:54:15,987
Speaker 4: there there are a lot of cycling events, right, but

1112
00:54:16,827 --> 00:54:19,747
Speaker 4: is this one clearly above all the rest and and

1113
00:54:19,907 --> 00:54:20,547
Speaker 4: by how much?

1114
00:54:22,267 --> 00:54:22,467
Speaker 15: Yeah?

1115
00:54:22,707 --> 00:54:23,027
Speaker 9: It is?

1116
00:54:23,307 --> 00:54:26,747
Speaker 15: Yeah, I think like from a from a bike rider's

1117
00:54:26,827 --> 00:54:31,347
Speaker 15: point of view, the way that racing has changed. Every

1118
00:54:31,427 --> 00:54:34,267
Speaker 15: every single bike race now is hard, and the Tour

1119
00:54:34,347 --> 00:54:38,307
Speaker 15: de France is not necessarily physically harder than the Giro

1120
00:54:38,427 --> 00:54:41,067
Speaker 15: or the welter Espania that all three of those those

1121
00:54:41,467 --> 00:54:43,347
Speaker 15: three week races sort of sit on par now with

1122
00:54:43,467 --> 00:54:46,427
Speaker 15: the with their physical level, but the Tilda France just

1123
00:54:46,507 --> 00:54:50,387
Speaker 15: brings that big hype, you know, brings the pressure for

1124
00:54:50,467 --> 00:54:52,947
Speaker 15: the riders. It's it's the biggest, the biggest race in

1125
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Speaker 15: the world. Everybody's watching it. We had a briefing yesterday

1126
00:54:55,947 --> 00:54:59,107
Speaker 15: with one hundred and ninety one hundred and ninety countries.

1127
00:54:59,187 --> 00:55:02,067
Speaker 15: It's televised in so you know all all of that stuff.

1128
00:55:02,107 --> 00:55:05,587
Speaker 15: It's just it's just cycling on such a bigger scale

1129
00:55:05,627 --> 00:55:08,387
Speaker 15: and and that comes pressure. With that, comes viewers with it,

1130
00:55:08,507 --> 00:55:11,827
Speaker 15: comes eyes on the race, on the riders. So it

1131
00:55:11,987 --> 00:55:15,707
Speaker 15: is an enormous sporting event and it's hard to hide

1132
00:55:15,707 --> 00:55:17,827
Speaker 15: from that, especially when you get to the You get

1133
00:55:17,827 --> 00:55:19,787
Speaker 15: to the stage. Starts every day and there's just thousands

1134
00:55:19,827 --> 00:55:22,107
Speaker 15: and thousands of people. So that's why everybody wants to

1135
00:55:22,147 --> 00:55:23,627
Speaker 15: be here, and that's what's so exciting at the Tour

1136
00:55:23,707 --> 00:55:24,067
Speaker 15: de France.

1137
00:55:24,267 --> 00:55:25,667
Speaker 4: Absolutely well, there are a lot of people on the

1138
00:55:25,707 --> 00:55:27,427
Speaker 4: side of the world, as I'm sure you'll know, stocking

1139
00:55:27,507 --> 00:55:29,947
Speaker 4: up on coffee for the next three weeks or so

1140
00:55:30,187 --> 00:55:32,787
Speaker 4: to watch it through the night. Sam, all the best

1141
00:55:32,827 --> 00:55:34,907
Speaker 4: to you and the Israel Premier Tech team for the

1142
00:55:35,387 --> 00:55:37,587
Speaker 4: running of the Tour de France this year. Appreciate you

1143
00:55:37,707 --> 00:55:39,467
Speaker 4: very much taking the time to chet to us cool,

1144
00:55:39,507 --> 00:55:41,467
Speaker 4: Thank you very much, No, thank you mate. That is

1145
00:55:41,547 --> 00:55:45,187
Speaker 4: Sam Beuerley with the Tour de France starting tonight in

1146
00:55:45,347 --> 00:55:49,347
Speaker 4: lell and just some spectacular scenery as always to be

1147
00:55:49,547 --> 00:55:52,067
Speaker 4: enjoyed well during the night over here, of course, but

1148
00:55:53,067 --> 00:55:56,427
Speaker 4: certainly those cycling enthusiasts among you will, as I said

1149
00:55:56,427 --> 00:55:58,587
Speaker 4: to Sam, there be stocking up on the coffee and

1150
00:55:58,667 --> 00:56:01,147
Speaker 4: making sure that they don't miss a moment, or not

1151
00:56:01,227 --> 00:56:04,267
Speaker 4: too many moments anyway, of the one hundred and twelfth

1152
00:56:04,347 --> 00:56:06,987
Speaker 4: running of Cycling's Tour de France. The only key we

1153
00:56:07,067 --> 00:56:10,347
Speaker 4: in the field is in the red bull side, that

1154
00:56:10,547 --> 00:56:13,187
Speaker 4: is Lawrence Pithy, so we will keep eyes on him

1155
00:56:13,547 --> 00:56:15,907
Speaker 4: in particular. As the Tour de France gets under way

1156
00:56:15,987 --> 00:56:18,667
Speaker 4: tonight in Leale, we come to your live as you

1157
00:56:18,707 --> 00:56:24,387
Speaker 4: can probably hear in the background from an increasingly populated

1158
00:56:24,547 --> 00:56:28,187
Speaker 4: Emerson's Brewery in Duned. And it's ahead of the first

1159
00:56:28,227 --> 00:56:31,067
Speaker 4: test of the year of course tonight at Forsyth Bar Stadium.

1160
00:56:31,147 --> 00:56:34,067
Speaker 4: Just reminding you we have built up from six tonight

1161
00:56:34,467 --> 00:56:38,027
Speaker 4: from Forsyth Bar with commentary just after seven featuring our

1162
00:56:38,187 --> 00:56:41,867
Speaker 4: lead commentator and rugby editor Elliott Smith. Paul Miller is

1163
00:56:41,907 --> 00:56:45,707
Speaker 4: alongside former All Blacks number eight inexpert comments and on

1164
00:56:45,787 --> 00:56:48,827
Speaker 4: the show tomorrow we'll break it all down. So watch

1165
00:56:48,907 --> 00:56:51,587
Speaker 4: it tonight or listen to it tonight form some opinions,

1166
00:56:51,627 --> 00:56:55,707
Speaker 4: and tomorrow on the show we'll talk it through. In fact,

1167
00:56:55,747 --> 00:56:57,507
Speaker 4: we've got more rugby for you after two o'clock this

1168
00:56:57,587 --> 00:57:01,507
Speaker 4: afternoon as well. Tane Randall, the Southern icon when it

1169
00:57:01,547 --> 00:57:03,787
Speaker 4: comes to rugby with Otago with the Highlanders with the

1170
00:57:03,827 --> 00:57:05,947
Speaker 4: All Blacks, is going to stop in for a chat

1171
00:57:05,987 --> 00:57:08,747
Speaker 4: as well, and we'll get a few punters perhaps to

1172
00:57:08,787 --> 00:57:11,627
Speaker 4: come and give us their pregame predictions. They're as relevant

1173
00:57:11,627 --> 00:57:14,747
Speaker 4: as anybody's I feel. Next up, though, let's take a

1174
00:57:14,747 --> 00:57:17,627
Speaker 4: break when we come back. It is five time Paralympic

1175
00:57:17,747 --> 00:57:22,667
Speaker 4: medalist Adam Hall, who is here actually at Emerson's, enjoying

1176
00:57:22,787 --> 00:57:26,067
Speaker 4: a bit of lunch and a cold beverage, although I

1177
00:57:26,147 --> 00:57:28,627
Speaker 4: see he has gone with the coffee before our chat,

1178
00:57:28,667 --> 00:57:32,067
Speaker 4: which I think is wise. He is about to head

1179
00:57:32,107 --> 00:57:35,707
Speaker 4: off well early next year anyway, for his sixth Paralympic

1180
00:57:35,827 --> 00:57:39,427
Speaker 4: Winter Games. Six incredible stuff. Adam Hall going to join

1181
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Speaker 4: us on the show right after this. Start your journey

1182
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Speaker 4: One twenty seven Here on News Talks be broadcasting live

1203
00:58:50,627 --> 00:58:54,187
Speaker 4: from Emerson's Brewery and Pub in Dunedin and it's amazing

1204
00:58:54,227 --> 00:58:57,667
Speaker 4: who you bump into on afternoons like this. Five time

1205
00:58:57,787 --> 00:59:02,147
Speaker 4: Paralympic medallist Adam Hall selected for a record equilling sixth

1206
00:59:02,347 --> 00:59:06,227
Speaker 4: Paralympic Games. He's off to the Milano Cortina twenty twenty

1207
00:59:06,427 --> 00:59:10,227
Speaker 4: six Paralympic Winter Games in March, set to match the

1208
00:59:10,347 --> 00:59:14,787
Speaker 4: achievement of power athlete and swimmer Graham Condon and parashooter

1209
00:59:14,987 --> 00:59:18,987
Speaker 4: Michael Johnson as a six time Paralympian, but it'll be

1210
00:59:19,027 --> 00:59:22,987
Speaker 4: the first New Zealander to appear at six Paralympic Winter Games.

1211
00:59:23,347 --> 00:59:26,707
Speaker 4: Gold and the men slalom standing in Vancouver in twenty ten,

1212
00:59:27,107 --> 00:59:30,307
Speaker 4: again in Peongchang in twenty eighteen, also a bronze that year,

1213
00:59:30,347 --> 00:59:33,187
Speaker 4: and the men's Super combined standing and at Beijing in

1214
00:59:33,227 --> 00:59:36,707
Speaker 4: twenty twenty two. Bronze medals in both the men's Super

1215
00:59:36,787 --> 00:59:41,387
Speaker 4: Combined Standing and Men's Slalom Standing disciplines. In twenty eleven,

1216
00:59:41,627 --> 00:59:43,747
Speaker 4: made a member of the New Zealand Order of Merit

1217
00:59:44,147 --> 00:59:48,667
Speaker 4: in the Queen's Birthday Honors for services to sport. Nice

1218
00:59:48,667 --> 00:59:49,467
Speaker 4: to see you, mate, How are you?

1219
00:59:49,707 --> 00:59:49,867
Speaker 12: Yeah?

1220
00:59:49,947 --> 00:59:52,787
Speaker 7: Good afternoon, pioneer. And to your viewers, it's great to

1221
00:59:52,867 --> 00:59:53,267
Speaker 7: be here.

1222
00:59:53,307 --> 00:59:54,947
Speaker 4: Great to have you on the show. Mate. You made

1223
00:59:55,027 --> 00:59:58,907
Speaker 4: your debut Paralympic Winter Games appearance in Tirno in two

1224
00:59:59,027 --> 01:00:01,587
Speaker 4: thousand and six. That seems an awfully long time ago.

1225
01:00:01,867 --> 01:00:09,067
Speaker 4: Could you ever have imagined you'd go to another fivebsolutely.

1226
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Speaker 12: Not know when you look back, And to still be

1227
01:00:10,147 --> 01:00:12,067
Speaker 12: here and to still be in the position that I

1228
01:00:12,387 --> 01:00:17,627
Speaker 12: am in and obviously still being competitive. Just finished one

1229
01:00:17,667 --> 01:00:20,267
Speaker 12: of my most successful seasons in just over ten seasons.

1230
01:00:20,307 --> 01:00:22,947
Speaker 12: So it's quite remarkable really, and I think it's a

1231
01:00:23,067 --> 01:00:27,387
Speaker 12: huge acknowledgment not just to myself, but my family, friends

1232
01:00:27,667 --> 01:00:31,987
Speaker 12: and supporters and everybody that's been able to be so supportive.

1233
01:00:32,067 --> 01:00:32,947
Speaker 7: And it's not just been a.

1234
01:00:32,987 --> 01:00:36,227
Speaker 12: Sacrifice to myself, but the sacrifice to the close team

1235
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Speaker 12: around me and the community and friends and everybody that

1236
01:00:39,747 --> 01:00:43,467
Speaker 12: has been involved. It's a true testament to everybody to

1237
01:00:45,067 --> 01:00:49,067
Speaker 12: have that innovative mindset, that open mindset, growth mindset to

1238
01:00:49,147 --> 01:00:52,427
Speaker 12: be able to continue to really push the envelope and

1239
01:00:52,507 --> 01:00:56,787
Speaker 12: to still be really competitive twenty years on. And yeah,

1240
01:00:56,827 --> 01:01:01,067
Speaker 12: to be heading towards my sixth campaign as a huge

1241
01:01:01,587 --> 01:01:02,147
Speaker 12: testament to.

1242
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Speaker 17: All of that.

1243
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and to you as well made and as you

1244
01:01:04,467 --> 01:01:06,707
Speaker 4: just seed, you've just had one of your most successful season.

1245
01:01:06,827 --> 01:01:10,027
Speaker 4: So is it the kind of sport where you do

1246
01:01:10,267 --> 01:01:14,067
Speaker 4: improve with age, you know, is your best yet to come? Perhaps?

1247
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Speaker 12: Yeah, I guess that tends to happen more in endurance sport, perhaps,

1248
01:01:18,067 --> 01:01:20,547
Speaker 12: is what they say, But I don't know. I think

1249
01:01:20,587 --> 01:01:23,707
Speaker 12: the unique thing about parasport in particular is it that

1250
01:01:23,827 --> 01:01:30,307
Speaker 12: every athlete, whatever they have from a para perspective, disability

1251
01:01:30,427 --> 01:01:33,347
Speaker 12: or not, is the ability to really push the envelope.

1252
01:01:33,387 --> 01:01:37,547
Speaker 12: And we're all so unique and so individualize it. You know,

1253
01:01:37,667 --> 01:01:39,787
Speaker 12: we're able to kind of figure out what works and

1254
01:01:39,867 --> 01:01:42,587
Speaker 12: what doesn't work and really go into a few rabbit holes.

1255
01:01:42,627 --> 01:01:46,027
Speaker 12: And it's kind of not a generic sport or environment

1256
01:01:46,107 --> 01:01:48,987
Speaker 12: where everything is kind of relatively the same. You know,

1257
01:01:49,067 --> 01:01:51,467
Speaker 12: we're still out there pushing for tents and hundreds, and

1258
01:01:51,787 --> 01:01:54,027
Speaker 12: I think that's what keeps it really exciting, not just

1259
01:01:54,147 --> 01:01:56,347
Speaker 12: for myself but also the team around me when we're

1260
01:01:56,387 --> 01:01:59,307
Speaker 12: training both on the snow off the snow and really

1261
01:01:59,867 --> 01:02:02,267
Speaker 12: trying to fine tune things and see what can work

1262
01:02:02,707 --> 01:02:03,707
Speaker 12: and what doesn't work.

1263
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Speaker 7: And yeah, that's out of the journey to what keeps

1264
01:02:07,707 --> 01:02:08,547
Speaker 7: it really exciting.

1265
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Speaker 12: We're always, you know, finding those little golden nuggets under

1266
01:02:11,347 --> 01:02:14,067
Speaker 12: the rocks every now and again, and sometimes they work

1267
01:02:14,107 --> 01:02:15,027
Speaker 12: and sometimes they don't.

1268
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Speaker 9: I love that.

1269
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Speaker 4: I love that your gold medals in twenty ten and

1270
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Speaker 4: again in twenty eighteen. Special moments, of course, what stands

1271
01:02:24,787 --> 01:02:26,747
Speaker 4: out most vividly about twenty ten for you?

1272
01:02:27,907 --> 01:02:28,667
Speaker 7: Yeah, twenty ten.

1273
01:02:28,747 --> 01:02:31,907
Speaker 12: Obviously, coming off my first campaign in two thousand and six,

1274
01:02:31,987 --> 01:02:35,507
Speaker 12: I wanted to go there, and you know, after being

1275
01:02:35,627 --> 01:02:39,387
Speaker 12: selected to my first campaign, you have this ambition that okay, cool,

1276
01:02:39,387 --> 01:02:41,307
Speaker 12: I've done that. Now I want to go and represent

1277
01:02:41,467 --> 01:02:44,907
Speaker 12: our country to the best that I can and win medals, obviously,

1278
01:02:44,987 --> 01:02:46,267
Speaker 12: and you know, at.

1279
01:02:46,147 --> 01:02:48,707
Speaker 7: That point in time, I was pretty new on the scene.

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Speaker 12: I'd only been involved for about eighteen months, where a

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01:02:51,107 --> 01:02:53,347
Speaker 12: lot of my competitors were at the point that I'm

1282
01:02:53,387 --> 01:02:55,787
Speaker 12: at now, they had been to four or five or

1283
01:02:55,867 --> 01:02:58,907
Speaker 12: six games. So for me, it was about taking that

1284
01:02:59,107 --> 01:03:02,907
Speaker 12: opportunity in that campaign to really see what it was

1285
01:03:02,987 --> 01:03:05,387
Speaker 12: that I needed to be the best and learn from

1286
01:03:05,427 --> 01:03:08,947
Speaker 12: that experience, and you know, taking that experience four years

1287
01:03:09,067 --> 01:03:12,587
Speaker 12: later down the track to Vancouver and just remember walking

1288
01:03:12,907 --> 01:03:15,507
Speaker 12: out of that campaign and O six and saying that,

1289
01:03:15,627 --> 01:03:17,787
Speaker 12: you know, in four years time, that's going to be

1290
01:03:17,907 --> 01:03:20,867
Speaker 12: us on top of the podium, national anthem being played,

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01:03:21,427 --> 01:03:24,187
Speaker 12: the flag being raised, and that'll be us with the

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01:03:24,627 --> 01:03:27,787
Speaker 12: gold medal around our neck, and you know, everything just

1293
01:03:27,827 --> 01:03:31,267
Speaker 12: seemed to kind of fall into place obviously, and things

1294
01:03:31,387 --> 01:03:37,667
Speaker 12: just kind of continued from there really, which was yeah, hugely, yeah,

1295
01:03:37,867 --> 01:03:41,707
Speaker 12: hugely an amazing experience and time will be something that

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Speaker 12: I get to to reflect on. And obviously there was

1297
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Speaker 12: a period of time there where, you know, soon after

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01:03:48,027 --> 01:03:51,667
Speaker 12: the Games there was the accident of my number one

1299
01:03:51,707 --> 01:03:55,147
Speaker 12: supporter that was my mother, so my late months, so

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Speaker 12: we we you know, remember her every single day and

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01:03:59,067 --> 01:04:01,227
Speaker 12: she has been a part of my journey as well

1302
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Speaker 12: and continues too though not here is a part of

1303
01:04:05,787 --> 01:04:08,787
Speaker 12: a deeply, hugely part of my journey today as well.

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Speaker 4: Amazing was it as special in twenty eighteen. I don't

1305
01:04:12,587 --> 01:04:15,067
Speaker 4: suppose gold medals ever get old but what was it

1306
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Speaker 4: a different feeling?

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Speaker 12: I think it's as we say it's about cliche. I

1308
01:04:19,187 --> 01:04:22,667
Speaker 12: guess is that it is about the journey. Like we

1309
01:04:22,787 --> 01:04:25,987
Speaker 12: live in four year cycles, where ultimately you're trying to

1310
01:04:26,067 --> 01:04:30,507
Speaker 12: put your bets on a Friday afternoon, whatever it may be,

1311
01:04:30,667 --> 01:04:33,587
Speaker 12: in four years time and hope that you have done

1312
01:04:33,627 --> 01:04:36,067
Speaker 12: absolutely everything that you possibly can to be the best

1313
01:04:36,107 --> 01:04:38,787
Speaker 12: prepared that you can to get the medals, and there's

1314
01:04:38,867 --> 01:04:42,547
Speaker 12: no hiding from that. In high performance sport, we're there about,

1315
01:04:42,947 --> 01:04:46,987
Speaker 12: you know, trying to sustainably win medals and to have

1316
01:04:47,307 --> 01:04:50,107
Speaker 12: an eight year gap between you know, twenty ten and

1317
01:04:50,187 --> 01:04:52,347
Speaker 12: then back on top of the podium in twenty eighteen,

1318
01:04:52,427 --> 01:04:55,667
Speaker 12: I think that was something that was truly remarkable, and

1319
01:04:55,827 --> 01:04:59,387
Speaker 12: just having a team around me that were hugely innovative

1320
01:04:59,467 --> 01:05:02,067
Speaker 12: and had a great vision that we all believed in

1321
01:05:02,107 --> 01:05:04,587
Speaker 12: and knew what it would take to get back up

1322
01:05:04,667 --> 01:05:07,667
Speaker 12: there and be the best on that day. And when

1323
01:05:07,667 --> 01:05:10,547
Speaker 12: I look back now even and reflect on that performance,

1324
01:05:11,667 --> 01:05:13,627
Speaker 12: it's not you know, at that time, it was an

1325
01:05:13,627 --> 01:05:16,067
Speaker 12: amazing performance and it was world class at that time,

1326
01:05:16,147 --> 01:05:19,187
Speaker 12: but when we compare it to today's skiing again, it's

1327
01:05:19,267 --> 01:05:21,867
Speaker 12: on another level. So I think again, just reflecting on

1328
01:05:21,987 --> 01:05:25,027
Speaker 12: the team around me, the training, everything that we're able

1329
01:05:25,107 --> 01:05:26,827
Speaker 12: to do, and still trying and.

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Speaker 7: Stay ahead of the curve.

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Speaker 12: And you know where it's not just me that it's

1332
01:05:31,507 --> 01:05:34,427
Speaker 12: trying to be competitive and get those medals. Is a

1333
01:05:34,547 --> 01:05:36,947
Speaker 12: number of other athletes and nations out there that are

1334
01:05:37,347 --> 01:05:38,987
Speaker 12: all trying to do the same thing. So at the

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01:05:39,067 --> 01:05:41,307
Speaker 12: end of the day, it's all about who who comes

1336
01:05:41,387 --> 01:05:43,707
Speaker 12: up and shows best prepared, who has the best planning

1337
01:05:43,747 --> 01:05:47,307
Speaker 12: in place, the best support, and at the end of

1338
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Speaker 12: the day, as we know and high performance sport, a

1339
01:05:49,707 --> 01:05:52,067
Speaker 12: lot of it comes to that top couple of inches.

1340
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Speaker 4: Super combined standing and slalom standing. Can you just explain

1341
01:05:55,747 --> 01:05:56,307
Speaker 4: the two for us?

1342
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Speaker 17: Yes.

1343
01:05:56,907 --> 01:05:59,867
Speaker 12: So slalom's been my specialty event throughout my whole career,

1344
01:06:00,307 --> 01:06:03,747
Speaker 12: which is it's the most technical event where your gates

1345
01:06:04,227 --> 01:06:08,267
Speaker 12: that you are going around, the plastic gate quite short.

1346
01:06:08,347 --> 01:06:11,427
Speaker 12: So when I say that I'm in in distance, are

1347
01:06:11,467 --> 01:06:15,387
Speaker 12: there anywhere from say nine to eleven or twelve meters

1348
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Speaker 12: apart down.

1349
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Speaker 7: The hill, So quite technical.

1350
01:06:18,387 --> 01:06:21,867
Speaker 12: Whereas super g is the second fastest event, so the

1351
01:06:21,947 --> 01:06:25,027
Speaker 12: gates are quite wide open and depending on the vertical drop,

1352
01:06:25,067 --> 01:06:29,467
Speaker 12: there's a calculation that's out there. That depends on how

1353
01:06:29,547 --> 01:06:31,627
Speaker 12: far apart the gates are, so super g can be

1354
01:06:32,267 --> 01:06:35,147
Speaker 12: anywhere from say fifty to eighty meters apart, and you're

1355
01:06:35,627 --> 01:06:38,307
Speaker 12: going anywhere up to one hundred.

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Speaker 7: Kilometers an hour.

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Speaker 12: And so this is an event and supercombined where you

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Speaker 12: do that for your first run. So slalom is two

1359
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Speaker 12: two slalom runs combined time supercombined. It's kind of one

1360
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Speaker 12: extreme to the other. So you have your speed event

1361
01:06:51,267 --> 01:06:53,987
Speaker 12: first and then your second run is back to your slalom.

1362
01:06:54,107 --> 01:06:58,467
Speaker 12: So it's been quite a cool event to have and

1363
01:06:58,587 --> 01:07:02,227
Speaker 12: quite a traditional event that has been around, and there

1364
01:07:02,307 --> 01:07:04,507
Speaker 12: have been talked for the last couple of campaigns that

1365
01:07:04,627 --> 01:07:09,507
Speaker 12: they would get Supercombined off the program, and it is

1366
01:07:09,627 --> 01:07:11,747
Speaker 12: still in the end and in the future, I think

1367
01:07:11,787 --> 01:07:15,067
Speaker 12: we'll start to see a new kind of team event

1368
01:07:15,187 --> 01:07:18,627
Speaker 12: evolve in future campaigns where, for example, my teammate Corey,

1369
01:07:18,707 --> 01:07:21,747
Speaker 12: who specializes in speed, he would do the speed portion

1370
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Speaker 12: of it and then I would be doing the slalom

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01:07:24,627 --> 01:07:27,467
Speaker 12: portion of it. So I think that from a viewership

1372
01:07:27,547 --> 01:07:31,507
Speaker 12: perspective and from an excitement perspective as will be pretty

1373
01:07:31,547 --> 01:07:32,427
Speaker 12: cool moving forward. Here.

1374
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Speaker 4: How did you get into it?

1375
01:07:34,667 --> 01:07:38,227
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's it could be a long story,

1376
01:07:38,307 --> 01:07:39,147
Speaker 7: but short story.

1377
01:07:39,267 --> 01:07:44,627
Speaker 12: Basically, when I was about six years old, through ccs

1378
01:07:44,747 --> 01:07:48,987
Speaker 12: back in those days, who had different programs I guess

1379
01:07:49,267 --> 01:07:52,387
Speaker 12: within our region, and so you get introduced to all

1380
01:07:52,427 --> 01:07:55,467
Speaker 12: different kinds of sports. And I was introduced to these

1381
01:07:56,307 --> 01:07:59,307
Speaker 12: ski trips away up to Central Otago who I was

1382
01:07:59,387 --> 01:08:02,107
Speaker 12: introduced through a friend of my mum's at the time

1383
01:08:02,187 --> 01:08:04,347
Speaker 12: who had a son with the same disability as me,

1384
01:08:04,427 --> 01:08:07,987
Speaker 12: and he had been skiing doing these trips and suggested

1385
01:08:08,027 --> 01:08:10,467
Speaker 12: that perhaps I gave it a go. So for me,

1386
01:08:10,587 --> 01:08:12,507
Speaker 12: that's kind of where it began, and it was kind

1387
01:08:12,547 --> 01:08:15,587
Speaker 12: of three years of torture. I was obviously young. Naturally,

1388
01:08:15,627 --> 01:08:19,147
Speaker 12: you're pretty weak when you're young anyway, And after three

1389
01:08:19,227 --> 01:08:21,907
Speaker 12: years I was then introduced to snowboarding. And during those

1390
01:08:21,947 --> 01:08:24,267
Speaker 12: early days, actually my dad spent a lot of time

1391
01:08:24,947 --> 01:08:26,747
Speaker 12: up on the mountain with me, trying to get me

1392
01:08:26,867 --> 01:08:30,267
Speaker 12: up onto the mountains because we would have volunteers come

1393
01:08:30,347 --> 01:08:33,307
Speaker 12: up to the mountains from the phyzed schools as part

1394
01:08:33,347 --> 01:08:35,747
Speaker 12: of some of their study. They would come up and

1395
01:08:35,867 --> 01:08:37,707
Speaker 12: volunteer and be a part of the program. And a

1396
01:08:37,747 --> 01:08:40,387
Speaker 12: lot of the volunteers they would you get their pass

1397
01:08:40,507 --> 01:08:42,667
Speaker 12: or whatever it would be to help out, and often

1398
01:08:42,747 --> 01:08:44,707
Speaker 12: I would be that much of a struggle they would

1399
01:08:44,787 --> 01:08:46,947
Speaker 12: leave me in the cafeteria, so they would kind of

1400
01:08:47,027 --> 01:08:49,427
Speaker 12: just go out there and you know, enjoy what they

1401
01:08:49,827 --> 01:08:52,627
Speaker 12: were doing getting with their pass and I would kind

1402
01:08:52,627 --> 01:08:54,747
Speaker 12: of just cruise around. So yeah, Dad actually spend a

1403
01:08:54,787 --> 01:08:56,387
Speaker 12: lot of time up on the mountains with me in

1404
01:08:56,467 --> 01:08:59,027
Speaker 12: those early days. And then once I changed to snowboarding,

1405
01:08:59,547 --> 01:09:01,427
Speaker 12: for me, that was where I really found, I guess,

1406
01:09:01,507 --> 01:09:04,627
Speaker 12: the independence and the freedom that I had been looking for.

1407
01:09:04,987 --> 01:09:07,067
Speaker 12: And probably the biggest thing that I got out of

1408
01:09:07,107 --> 01:09:09,627
Speaker 12: that was instead of being on two planks with my

1409
01:09:09,747 --> 01:09:13,387
Speaker 12: skis tied together and my outriggers that some viewers may

1410
01:09:13,427 --> 01:09:15,347
Speaker 12: have seen with the little ski tips on the bottom,

1411
01:09:15,827 --> 01:09:17,867
Speaker 12: I didn't have to worry about the yard sales as much.

1412
01:09:17,947 --> 01:09:19,947
Speaker 12: I was just on one plank with my outriggers and

1413
01:09:19,987 --> 01:09:22,987
Speaker 12: I was able to go up there and essentially pass

1414
01:09:23,147 --> 01:09:25,987
Speaker 12: all those volunteers that were up there that were leaving

1415
01:09:26,027 --> 01:09:27,987
Speaker 12: in the caf So that was that was quite cool,

1416
01:09:28,027 --> 01:09:29,907
Speaker 12: and yeah, for me, that was when I really first

1417
01:09:30,067 --> 01:09:32,547
Speaker 12: kind of thought that, you know, I could go far

1418
01:09:32,707 --> 01:09:35,507
Speaker 12: in this and one day represent New Zealand at the

1419
01:09:35,587 --> 01:09:38,667
Speaker 12: highest level possible and at that point and only until

1420
01:09:38,707 --> 01:09:41,787
Speaker 12: recently in the last ten years, snowboarding has been introduced.

1421
01:09:41,387 --> 01:09:42,427
Speaker 7: To the Paralympic Games.

1422
01:09:43,307 --> 01:09:44,947
Speaker 12: So yeah, for me to be able to go to

1423
01:09:45,067 --> 01:09:47,507
Speaker 12: to Reno and O six, so I had to, yeah,

1424
01:09:47,587 --> 01:09:50,747
Speaker 12: change back to skiing if that was the pathway that

1425
01:09:50,827 --> 01:09:51,667
Speaker 12: I wanted to go down.

1426
01:09:51,947 --> 01:09:53,187
Speaker 4: Is it too late for you to get back on

1427
01:09:53,227 --> 01:09:56,227
Speaker 4: a snowboard and go to a Paralympic Winter Games? Is

1428
01:09:56,227 --> 01:09:57,827
Speaker 4: that kind of has that ship sailed?

1429
01:09:57,907 --> 01:09:59,987
Speaker 12: It's always been in the back of the line for sure,

1430
01:10:00,467 --> 01:10:02,347
Speaker 12: I said to a lot of people out there are

1431
01:10:02,387 --> 01:10:04,587
Speaker 12: snowboarder at heart, and I do get the snowboard out

1432
01:10:04,627 --> 01:10:07,107
Speaker 12: there from time to time, Yeah, up on the mountains,

1433
01:10:07,147 --> 01:10:10,187
Speaker 12: which which is pretty cool to have that opportunity and

1434
01:10:10,307 --> 01:10:13,907
Speaker 12: depending on the Paralympic program as well. But the way

1435
01:10:13,947 --> 01:10:16,467
Speaker 12: that I snowboard with my out riggers at the moment,

1436
01:10:16,627 --> 01:10:20,907
Speaker 12: it's it's it's not legal because of my aut riggers

1437
01:10:20,987 --> 01:10:24,147
Speaker 12: can be seen as as a bit of a danger,

1438
01:10:24,227 --> 01:10:27,067
Speaker 12: I guess when it comes to collisions and the disciplines

1439
01:10:27,067 --> 01:10:30,267
Speaker 12: that they have in snowboard around broad across and slalom.

1440
01:10:30,347 --> 01:10:33,827
Speaker 12: But yeah, that boat has probably passed. But yeah, still

1441
01:10:33,827 --> 01:10:35,547
Speaker 12: get to get out there on a snowboard every now

1442
01:10:35,587 --> 01:10:39,027
Speaker 12: and again. And remember where you know, all this passion.

1443
01:10:38,747 --> 01:10:41,707
Speaker 4: Started absolutely well that wanted to get too carried away.

1444
01:10:41,787 --> 01:10:44,787
Speaker 4: So number six, next year, you're still pretty young man,

1445
01:10:45,107 --> 01:10:47,307
Speaker 4: are you? You know, is it going to be? Was

1446
01:10:47,387 --> 01:10:48,107
Speaker 4: Cory's older than you?

1447
01:10:48,227 --> 01:10:48,467
Speaker 17: Isn't he?

1448
01:10:48,827 --> 01:10:50,387
Speaker 7: Cory is old older than me?

1449
01:10:50,547 --> 01:10:54,427
Speaker 12: Yeah, And I guess you know, generally across the board,

1450
01:10:54,467 --> 01:10:59,987
Speaker 12: when when athletes do start to retire, you know, your

1451
01:11:00,067 --> 01:11:02,467
Speaker 12: late thirties, it may seem you're like you're still young,

1452
01:11:02,547 --> 01:11:05,627
Speaker 12: but when you start really young, like in your fifteen

1453
01:11:05,707 --> 01:11:09,227
Speaker 12: sixteen year old, it's yeah, you've been around definitely a

1454
01:11:09,307 --> 01:11:14,547
Speaker 12: long time. So yeah, I mean it's been an amazing

1455
01:11:14,707 --> 01:11:18,027
Speaker 12: journey so far, and yeah, it's just been really incredible.

1456
01:11:18,027 --> 01:11:20,227
Speaker 12: And I yeah, I wouldn't say I'm that young anymore.

1457
01:11:20,347 --> 01:11:22,227
Speaker 4: All Right, Well, let's let's get twenty twenty six out

1458
01:11:22,227 --> 01:11:24,107
Speaker 4: of the way before we start talking about twenty thirty.

1459
01:11:25,027 --> 01:11:26,067
Speaker 4: Where do you keep your medals?

1460
01:11:28,227 --> 01:11:31,787
Speaker 12: So the one from Vancouver is here on the on

1461
01:11:31,907 --> 01:11:35,707
Speaker 12: the tyry and a gun cabinet and a safe, and

1462
01:11:35,827 --> 01:11:37,947
Speaker 12: the rest are with me and Wanica. So I do

1463
01:11:38,187 --> 01:11:40,867
Speaker 12: like to, you know, carry them around with me take

1464
01:11:40,907 --> 01:11:44,307
Speaker 12: them to places if I'm doing any kind of functions

1465
01:11:44,427 --> 01:11:46,187
Speaker 12: or talks or anything like that, I do like to,

1466
01:11:46,827 --> 01:11:49,067
Speaker 12: you know, have them available so you know, they can

1467
01:11:49,387 --> 01:11:52,467
Speaker 12: come out and be shared. Really because at the end

1468
01:11:52,467 --> 01:11:56,747
Speaker 12: of the day, I really value that. You know, as

1469
01:11:56,787 --> 01:11:59,267
Speaker 12: an athlete, we're often put up on the pedestal as

1470
01:11:59,347 --> 01:12:01,707
Speaker 12: the athlete that you know won the medals, but really

1471
01:12:01,907 --> 01:12:05,387
Speaker 12: it is every single hard working New Zealander out there

1472
01:12:05,427 --> 01:12:07,907
Speaker 12: that is part of the journey, part of the medals

1473
01:12:08,027 --> 01:12:10,547
Speaker 12: because at the end of the day, the majority of

1474
01:12:10,707 --> 01:12:13,627
Speaker 12: our funding and what enables us to do what we

1475
01:12:13,747 --> 01:12:16,747
Speaker 12: do as athletes come from everybody.

1476
01:12:16,867 --> 01:12:18,787
Speaker 7: So everybody isn't part of that. So I think I

1477
01:12:18,907 --> 01:12:20,827
Speaker 7: have a responsibility to.

1478
01:12:22,627 --> 01:12:25,707
Speaker 12: Showcase and to show the journey and the behind the

1479
01:12:25,787 --> 01:12:27,947
Speaker 12: scenes a little bit of you know, what it's like,

1480
01:12:28,107 --> 01:12:30,587
Speaker 12: and you know, people enjoy being able to get their

1481
01:12:30,627 --> 01:12:32,707
Speaker 12: hands on it where whatever, you know, and I really

1482
01:12:32,867 --> 01:12:34,667
Speaker 12: enjoy that and the opportunity to do that.

1483
01:12:34,907 --> 01:12:35,267
Speaker 17: I love that.

1484
01:12:35,387 --> 01:12:37,027
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't remember who it was you told me

1485
01:12:37,107 --> 01:12:40,347
Speaker 4: the same thing that their medals aren't quite as pristine

1486
01:12:40,387 --> 01:12:42,987
Speaker 4: as they were when they were first presented because hundreds

1487
01:12:42,987 --> 01:12:45,067
Speaker 4: of hands have been on them. But they preferred it

1488
01:12:45,147 --> 01:12:48,787
Speaker 4: that way because you know, you maybe sometimes somebody has

1489
01:12:48,827 --> 01:12:51,667
Speaker 4: to see it to be it. You must enjoy inspiring

1490
01:12:52,147 --> 01:12:52,947
Speaker 4: others as well.

1491
01:12:53,547 --> 01:12:56,187
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's one of the major things.

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Speaker 12: I think is especially within Winter and within the winter environment,

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01:13:00,947 --> 01:13:04,067
Speaker 12: we've had such a huge legacy and a very successful

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Speaker 12: team all the way from the the early pioneers, if

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Speaker 12: you like, in the original Winter Paralympic team in New Zealand,

1496
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Speaker 12: where we have won medals at every single games except

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Speaker 12: for my first campaign and I know six. So that's

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Speaker 12: something that's been you know, very special for us and

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Speaker 12: for Corey and I and that everyone else that's gone

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Speaker 12: before us. Is to continue that legacy and to keep

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Speaker 12: striving to not just go and participate, but to really

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01:13:27,867 --> 01:13:30,467
Speaker 12: go and perform and do the best that we can

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Speaker 12: and bring back as many medals as we possibly can.

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Speaker 7: And I think we're starting to see.

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Speaker 12: Now that when athletes do go to their you know,

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01:13:38,467 --> 01:13:42,267
Speaker 12: even just their first campaigns, it's not anymore just about experience.

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01:13:42,387 --> 01:13:45,827
Speaker 12: It's about you know, that they are being successful straight

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01:13:45,867 --> 01:13:48,547
Speaker 12: off the bat, which is really really cool, and having

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01:13:48,587 --> 01:13:52,027
Speaker 12: a platform to be able to inspire others to get

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01:13:52,107 --> 01:13:54,907
Speaker 12: out there and you know, be ambitious and not be

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01:13:55,027 --> 01:13:58,827
Speaker 12: afraid of, you know, saying what your dreams are.

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01:13:58,747 --> 01:14:00,747
Speaker 7: And what your goals are, because I think it's keen.

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01:14:00,827 --> 01:14:02,747
Speaker 12: We sometimes we are a little bit quiet in that

1514
01:14:02,827 --> 01:14:05,747
Speaker 12: area and we're a bit too afraid to kind of

1515
01:14:05,787 --> 01:14:07,787
Speaker 12: get out there and really say what it is that

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01:14:07,867 --> 01:14:11,067
Speaker 12: we want to do and think. You know, there's about

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01:14:11,107 --> 01:14:14,627
Speaker 12: one in four one and five of New Zealanders that

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01:14:14,827 --> 01:14:17,987
Speaker 12: have a disability of some kind and I think we're

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01:14:18,027 --> 01:14:22,347
Speaker 12: probably the biggest minority in the world really, So if

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01:14:22,387 --> 01:14:25,987
Speaker 12: we can inspire others disability or not to get out

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01:14:26,067 --> 01:14:30,507
Speaker 12: there and yeah, just really strive to do something that

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Speaker 12: can change your own life or change others is really

1523
01:14:34,627 --> 01:14:38,067
Speaker 12: cool because you can surprise yourself and you never never

1524
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Speaker 12: know what could have been.

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Speaker 4: Love it, mate, love it. Congratulations on what you've done

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Speaker 4: so far. I know there's much more to come starting

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01:14:46,667 --> 01:14:49,267
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty six next year. Really appreciate your stopping

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01:14:49,307 --> 01:14:49,907
Speaker 4: for a chat. Adam.

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Speaker 7: Thanks, Bindy chairs, Take it easy, mate.

1530
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Speaker 4: That's Adam Hall, five time Paralympic medalist and about to

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01:14:55,187 --> 01:14:58,667
Speaker 4: head to his sixth Paralympic Winter Games. No New Zealander

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01:14:58,947 --> 01:15:02,507
Speaker 4: has ever been to that. Many news talks there being

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Speaker 4: Weekend Sport coming to your life from Dunedin, sixteen and

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Speaker 4: a half away from two back in a moment. That's

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Speaker 4: the Tasman with our Australian correspondent Adam Peacock.

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01:15:10,627 --> 01:15:13,907
Speaker 3: The biggest things in sports are on Weekend.

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01:15:13,587 --> 01:15:17,867
Speaker 1: Sports with Jason Paine and GJ Jubnos, New Zealand's most

1538
01:15:17,867 --> 01:15:19,907
Speaker 1: trusted home builder News Talks MB.

1539
01:15:20,507 --> 01:15:22,187
Speaker 4: Let's get you across the Tasman catch up with are

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01:15:22,187 --> 01:15:26,187
Speaker 4: Australian correspondent Adam Peacock and Origin three Coming up Wednesday

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01:15:26,267 --> 01:15:28,667
Speaker 4: night in Sydney. Shere's locked up at one. All New

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Speaker 4: South Wales will be favorites in Sydney, wouldn't they They are?

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01:15:32,107 --> 01:15:36,507
Speaker 8: But Queensland, every single Queensland. I'm talking to Piney. They're

1544
01:15:36,547 --> 01:15:40,267
Speaker 8: doing the usual thing. Ah yeah, you've likes your favorite,

1545
01:15:40,267 --> 01:15:42,827
Speaker 8: Ah yeah, you've likes the plane at home. I'm not

1546
01:15:42,907 --> 01:15:44,907
Speaker 8: sure if we even should bother showing up. We'll just

1547
01:15:44,987 --> 01:15:49,067
Speaker 8: go down there and do our best blah blah blah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1548
01:15:49,147 --> 01:15:52,427
Speaker 8: it's that. It's that cape of mate. So I don't

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01:15:52,467 --> 01:15:54,587
Speaker 8: believe them. It'll be close. It'll be a close game

1550
01:15:54,627 --> 01:15:57,107
Speaker 8: and New south West probably do deserve to be favorites

1551
01:15:57,107 --> 01:16:00,307
Speaker 8: on account of having a majority of the sport support

1552
01:16:00,347 --> 01:16:02,267
Speaker 8: in the stadium. There'll be eighty thousand people out. I'd

1553
01:16:02,267 --> 01:16:04,387
Speaker 8: say about seventy thousand of them go up in your

1554
01:16:04,427 --> 01:16:08,227
Speaker 8: South Wales. So yeah, there's a reason, but it's not

1555
01:16:08,307 --> 01:16:09,467
Speaker 8: as clear cut as something.

1556
01:16:09,747 --> 01:16:12,147
Speaker 4: Yeah, bit of a punch of the face out western Perth.

1557
01:16:12,307 --> 01:16:16,827
Speaker 4: Wasn't it four Queensland for New South Wales Rather well,

1558
01:16:16,867 --> 01:16:19,387
Speaker 4: they did get up and got to within two points

1559
01:16:19,627 --> 01:16:22,027
Speaker 4: I think after the demolition job and Bruce, but everybody

1560
01:16:22,067 --> 01:16:25,707
Speaker 4: thought this might even be a three mil situation. So yeah,

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01:16:25,907 --> 01:16:28,547
Speaker 4: I know what you're saying about Queensland and trying to

1562
01:16:28,587 --> 01:16:30,947
Speaker 4: be humble about it all, but I'm actually quite looking

1563
01:16:30,987 --> 01:16:33,867
Speaker 4: forward to this as a neutral of sorts. It should

1564
01:16:33,867 --> 01:16:34,627
Speaker 4: be quite a good game.

1565
01:16:35,547 --> 01:16:38,507
Speaker 8: Yeah, it will be. It will be the first half

1566
01:16:38,547 --> 01:16:43,067
Speaker 8: of southwelst play in Perth was probably their worst half

1567
01:16:43,147 --> 01:16:46,467
Speaker 8: of football in the last five games and going back

1568
01:16:46,507 --> 01:16:49,147
Speaker 8: to the start of last yearies and that's including when

1569
01:16:49,347 --> 01:16:54,067
Speaker 8: Joseph Whiteley you got sent off after seven minutes, So yeah,

1570
01:16:54,107 --> 01:16:56,107
Speaker 8: he's obviously now playing another sport and we'll get to that.

1571
01:16:56,307 --> 01:17:00,067
Speaker 8: But yeah, it was all over the shop from New Southwell,

1572
01:17:00,187 --> 01:17:02,507
Speaker 8: I can't see him doing that again. And yeah, all

1573
01:17:02,547 --> 01:17:04,347
Speaker 8: the talk was about the eight mil penalty count at

1574
01:17:04,347 --> 01:17:08,627
Speaker 8: half time that was maybe a byproduct you so, well,

1575
01:17:08,707 --> 01:17:11,147
Speaker 8: they're playing very well as well and their discipline was

1576
01:17:11,187 --> 01:17:13,147
Speaker 8: all over the shop. They won't play like that again.

1577
01:17:13,147 --> 01:17:16,467
Speaker 8: They can't play like that again. So yeah, I think

1578
01:17:17,027 --> 01:17:19,907
Speaker 8: a better game from them season, win the game. It's

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01:17:20,747 --> 01:17:21,867
Speaker 8: queenslanda left as well.

1580
01:17:22,067 --> 01:17:24,547
Speaker 4: All right, let's move to the fifteen A side. Co

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01:17:24,827 --> 01:17:27,667
Speaker 4: The British and Irish Lions are in Australia. They started

1582
01:17:27,667 --> 01:17:29,707
Speaker 4: their tour of Australia a week ago with a fifty

1583
01:17:29,827 --> 01:17:32,467
Speaker 4: four to seven when over the Force midweek they put

1584
01:17:32,507 --> 01:17:35,547
Speaker 4: fifty two on the Reds. They've got the Warratahs tonight.

1585
01:17:35,987 --> 01:17:38,787
Speaker 4: The first Test against the Wallabies isn't for a couple

1586
01:17:38,827 --> 01:17:41,667
Speaker 4: of weeks. But is this looking a little bit ominous

1587
01:17:42,067 --> 01:17:43,827
Speaker 4: for the Wallabies or is it just the fact that

1588
01:17:43,867 --> 01:17:47,027
Speaker 4: the lines are on international side playing against super rugby

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01:17:47,107 --> 01:17:48,347
Speaker 4: sides early on this tour.

1590
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Speaker 8: Yeah, a couple of factors. I just think our super

1591
01:17:52,507 --> 01:17:55,187
Speaker 8: rugby sides are a bit out of neck. You know,

1592
01:17:55,307 --> 01:17:58,507
Speaker 8: they're not too far removed from the from the season,

1593
01:17:58,587 --> 01:18:00,747
Speaker 8: but I don't think they've come up and go as

1594
01:18:00,747 --> 01:18:02,907
Speaker 8: a bit surprised at the Queensland result. I thought they'd

1595
01:18:02,907 --> 01:18:05,507
Speaker 8: be a bit closer, but that's kind of the pie. Also,

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Speaker 8: I think came where the Lions played over and over

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01:18:10,147 --> 01:18:11,707
Speaker 8: in Island. I guess that's a team that that blew

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01:18:11,707 --> 01:18:13,347
Speaker 8: a few cod webs out. They haven't done that before,

1599
01:18:13,427 --> 01:18:16,387
Speaker 8: have they, So that helped them gell a bit quicker.

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01:18:17,507 --> 01:18:20,707
Speaker 8: But yeah, they'd be mightily impressive. The wall of his

1601
01:18:20,747 --> 01:18:24,227
Speaker 8: will I think i'll get I was thinking about this

1602
01:18:24,667 --> 01:18:26,827
Speaker 8: this week pint, after out that last week. I think

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01:18:26,827 --> 01:18:28,947
Speaker 8: they'll get a chest. I can't see them getting too

1604
01:18:29,027 --> 01:18:32,987
Speaker 8: though that the lines have just got way too much depth.

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01:18:33,067 --> 01:18:36,227
Speaker 8: As you'd expect from a team that's a conglomeration of

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01:18:36,627 --> 01:18:39,587
Speaker 8: four different nations, you'd want them to have a bit

1607
01:18:39,627 --> 01:18:43,387
Speaker 8: of depth. So I just think, yeah, that tonight will

1608
01:18:43,387 --> 01:18:46,387
Speaker 8: be a bit of the same. There was an article

1609
01:18:46,427 --> 01:18:47,747
Speaker 8: this week. I don't know if you remember this one

1610
01:18:47,787 --> 01:18:49,907
Speaker 8: pint in two thousand and one when the World Retwars

1611
01:18:49,907 --> 01:18:51,747
Speaker 8: played the Lion. So there's actually a massive punch on

1612
01:18:52,187 --> 01:18:54,667
Speaker 8: Duncan McCrae got involved, and I don't know if that

1613
01:18:54,787 --> 01:18:55,827
Speaker 8: springs into your mind.

1614
01:18:55,787 --> 01:18:57,787
Speaker 4: It's not rehashed.

1615
01:18:58,227 --> 01:19:00,747
Speaker 8: Probably can't happen here now in this dar and age,

1616
01:19:01,387 --> 01:19:04,787
Speaker 8: but yeah, funny things have happened, but no, yeah, I

1617
01:19:04,867 --> 01:19:06,907
Speaker 8: think the lines would be way too good on what

1618
01:19:07,027 --> 01:19:09,867
Speaker 8: will be a nice ninety Sidney so clear air, thankfully,

1619
01:19:09,987 --> 01:19:12,267
Speaker 8: I think, and through the rain stays away and they

1620
01:19:12,307 --> 01:19:13,067
Speaker 8: play him to rugby.

1621
01:19:13,107 --> 01:19:13,387
Speaker 3: All right.

1622
01:19:13,427 --> 01:19:15,187
Speaker 4: That's ten o'clock tonight in New Zealand time, then the

1623
01:19:15,227 --> 01:19:18,347
Speaker 4: Brumby's midweek, the Australian New Zealand Invitational side next Saturday,

1624
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Speaker 4: and then two weeks tonight the first Test Wallaby's against

1625
01:19:21,147 --> 01:19:23,627
Speaker 4: the British and Irish Lions in Brisbane. Can we finish

1626
01:19:23,667 --> 01:19:27,307
Speaker 4: at Wimbledon where a couple of your men are still alive.

1627
01:19:27,387 --> 01:19:31,307
Speaker 4: In the men's singles, Jordan Thompson into the fourth round,

1628
01:19:31,387 --> 01:19:34,787
Speaker 4: beating the Italian Lucciano Drdaldian for seat. It's going to

1629
01:19:34,827 --> 01:19:37,347
Speaker 4: play fifth seed Taylor. Fritz tell us a bit about

1630
01:19:37,427 --> 01:19:39,707
Speaker 4: Jordan Thompson. He kind of flies under the radar a

1631
01:19:39,787 --> 01:19:41,787
Speaker 4: little bit, just a.

1632
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Speaker 8: Super hard worker. He always puts himself in a position

1633
01:19:44,707 --> 01:19:47,907
Speaker 8: and it was absolutely zero shock to me that in

1634
01:19:47,987 --> 01:19:50,187
Speaker 8: the first two rounds he won in five sets, because

1635
01:19:50,587 --> 01:19:53,827
Speaker 8: even when he's not playing his best. Tomo will be

1636
01:19:54,027 --> 01:19:57,147
Speaker 8: there when the other guy starts to feel it a

1637
01:19:57,187 --> 01:20:01,147
Speaker 8: bit and starts to doubt himself physically. He's a freak

1638
01:20:01,187 --> 01:20:03,347
Speaker 8: of an athlete and a dann good tennis player as well.

1639
01:20:03,387 --> 01:20:07,067
Speaker 8: I mean, he's been nearly top twenty and yeah, yeah

1640
01:20:07,147 --> 01:20:11,387
Speaker 8: he's done. He's done very very well to get what

1641
01:20:11,547 --> 01:20:14,147
Speaker 8: he had out of tennis, and exceptionally well to get

1642
01:20:14,147 --> 01:20:17,427
Speaker 8: to the fourth round here at Wimbledon. And yeah, Taylor

1643
01:20:17,467 --> 01:20:18,987
Speaker 8: Fritz next for him. So it's not going to be

1644
01:20:19,107 --> 01:20:24,307
Speaker 8: easy for him because Taylor the big American. His game suits, yeah,

1645
01:20:24,427 --> 01:20:27,707
Speaker 8: suits the grass. Ever, so well, what I will say

1646
01:20:27,747 --> 01:20:30,987
Speaker 8: about Demon is he's got the biggest opportunity of all

1647
01:20:31,027 --> 01:20:36,587
Speaker 8: time against a Danish qualifier. Holmgren plays tonight. Holmgren is

1648
01:20:36,667 --> 01:20:38,867
Speaker 8: ranked nearly two hundred in the world. He's doubled his

1649
01:20:38,987 --> 01:20:41,707
Speaker 8: career earnings this week, I think, or matched it or

1650
01:20:41,787 --> 01:20:44,507
Speaker 8: something like that, and he's got the chance to possibly

1651
01:20:44,507 --> 01:20:47,467
Speaker 8: play Djokovic in the next round. So if Demon doesn't

1652
01:20:47,467 --> 01:20:50,587
Speaker 8: get ahead of himself, he's up for a good weekend

1653
01:20:50,627 --> 01:20:51,747
Speaker 8: as well over there at Wimbledon.

1654
01:20:51,867 --> 01:20:54,267
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, how would he? I mean, I don't think

1655
01:20:54,307 --> 01:20:57,307
Speaker 4: you go into any game, any match against Novak Djokovic

1656
01:20:57,747 --> 01:21:00,787
Speaker 4: as favorite, but it's I guess it's late in his

1657
01:21:00,947 --> 01:21:03,707
Speaker 4: career Djokovic. If they do meet in the fourth round,

1658
01:21:03,747 --> 01:21:06,587
Speaker 4: would Alex Demon who are fancy an upset there?

1659
01:21:07,507 --> 01:21:12,187
Speaker 8: Yep? Absolutely And last year I meant to play Paul

1660
01:21:12,307 --> 01:21:15,547
Speaker 8: Demon hurt himself just before I think it was a

1661
01:21:15,587 --> 01:21:19,027
Speaker 8: quarter final or semi a quarter final, and Demon hurt

1662
01:21:19,107 --> 01:21:21,667
Speaker 8: himself late in the previous match and had to pull out,

1663
01:21:21,747 --> 01:21:25,507
Speaker 8: had to withdraw when he was just humming. So he's

1664
01:21:25,587 --> 01:21:28,347
Speaker 8: not quite showed that level so far in the first

1665
01:21:28,387 --> 01:21:30,667
Speaker 8: six months this season, but he's showing something here at

1666
01:21:30,667 --> 01:21:33,427
Speaker 8: Wimblond which which looks really good. He spoke of like

1667
01:21:33,987 --> 01:21:36,107
Speaker 8: he's putting too much pressure on himself about the overall

1668
01:21:36,147 --> 01:21:37,947
Speaker 8: outcome and not letting the process.

1669
01:21:40,627 --> 01:21:43,747
Speaker 4: Oh thanks, that's all we have from Adam Peacock. That's something.

1670
01:21:43,787 --> 01:21:45,187
Speaker 4: Well to cut you off there of the ind at

1671
01:21:45,227 --> 01:21:47,387
Speaker 4: and thanks mate, thanks for your time. He's always Adam

1672
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Speaker 4: Peacock are Australian correspondent here on News TALKSB seven or two.

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01:21:52,507 --> 01:21:57,267
Speaker 1: Don't get caught Offside eight eight Weekend Sports with Jason

1674
01:21:57,347 --> 01:22:01,987
Speaker 1: Paine and GJ. Gunnerhos New Zealand's most trusted home builder News.

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Speaker 4: Talks MB coming up three to two, broadcasting from Emerson's

1676
01:22:06,467 --> 01:22:09,947
Speaker 4: derived former Otago Highlanders and All Blacks captain Tayane Randall.

1677
01:22:10,267 --> 01:22:13,467
Speaker 4: He's among the patrons here at Emerson's as we're built

1678
01:22:13,467 --> 01:22:15,787
Speaker 4: towards the first Test match of the year, so we've

1679
01:22:16,227 --> 01:22:19,267
Speaker 4: enticed him over for a chat. Tane Randall after two

1680
01:22:19,467 --> 01:22:22,027
Speaker 4: first up after the News though Matt Lacy, coach of

1681
01:22:22,067 --> 01:22:25,147
Speaker 4: the Junior Tall Blacks into the semi finals at the

1682
01:22:25,267 --> 01:22:26,987
Speaker 4: Under nineteen Fever World Cup.

1683
01:22:28,427 --> 01:22:32,507
Speaker 1: The Old Blacks season is set to begin rama the

1684
01:22:32,627 --> 01:22:39,387
Speaker 1: mission in twenty twenty five Domin eight. The French Arrave, Young,

1685
01:22:39,707 --> 01:22:42,267
Speaker 1: fearless and ready to shock the rugby world.

1686
01:22:44,347 --> 01:22:46,307
Speaker 4: France trying to stripe test.

1687
01:22:46,467 --> 01:22:51,067
Speaker 3: The Old Lags with power, precision and pride. All Blacks Wow,

1688
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Speaker 3: what try?

1689
01:22:52,187 --> 01:22:54,667
Speaker 1: As we get ready for the start of the international

1690
01:22:54,787 --> 01:22:59,107
Speaker 1: rugby season, we are live.

1691
01:23:00,547 --> 01:23:02,867
Speaker 3: From Emerson's Brewery in Donedia net.

1692
01:23:02,947 --> 01:23:05,827
Speaker 1: God counting down to the Old Blacks first Test of

1693
01:23:05,947 --> 01:23:11,187
Speaker 1: twenty twentive charge for it's Weekend Sport with Jason Pine

1694
01:23:11,507 --> 01:23:14,267
Speaker 1: on your home of Sport News Dogs at.

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01:23:14,227 --> 01:23:17,787
Speaker 4: B two seven. Welcome into the show, Welcome back, to

1696
01:23:17,827 --> 01:23:19,507
Speaker 4: the show as the case may be less than five

1697
01:23:19,547 --> 01:23:21,587
Speaker 4: hours to or kickoff now in the first test of

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01:23:21,707 --> 01:23:24,787
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, All Blacks fronts forsightfar Stadium, Duneed. In

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Speaker 4: full commentary here on news Talks head be built up

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Speaker 4: from six skickoff at five past seven. We are coming

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Speaker 4: to your live from Emerson's in Deneed and the iconic

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01:23:33,587 --> 01:23:37,467
Speaker 4: Emersons founded by Richard Emerson nineteen ninety two. The bar

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01:23:37,787 --> 01:23:39,947
Speaker 4: pub that we're in at the moment attached to the

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01:23:40,027 --> 01:23:43,667
Speaker 4: brewery open nine years ago and its rarely fall nowt

1705
01:23:44,267 --> 01:23:47,787
Speaker 4: a real buzz around the great ambiance. I'm pretty sure

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01:23:47,787 --> 01:23:49,707
Speaker 4: you can hear us Okavid in the background here. A

1707
01:23:49,787 --> 01:23:53,147
Speaker 4: number of punters have arrived to enjoy some pregame festivities,

1708
01:23:53,227 --> 01:23:57,267
Speaker 4: including former All Blacks Captain Taine Randall. He's pretty well

1709
01:23:57,307 --> 01:23:59,707
Speaker 4: not around these parts, in fact around all parts leed

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01:23:59,747 --> 01:24:02,587
Speaker 4: otago to the NPC title in nineteen ninety eight, was

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Speaker 4: a big part of the Highlanders in their early years

1712
01:24:05,347 --> 01:24:08,427
Speaker 4: and of course All Blacks cap twenty two times among

1713
01:24:08,547 --> 01:24:10,787
Speaker 4: his fifty odd test matches. Tanne Randall going to join

1714
01:24:10,867 --> 01:24:14,147
Speaker 4: us for a chat shortly. Matt Lacy Junior tall Black's

1715
01:24:14,147 --> 01:24:16,387
Speaker 4: coach will lead us off after his side have made

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01:24:16,387 --> 01:24:18,827
Speaker 4: it through to the final four of the Fever Under

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Speaker 4: nineteen World Cup in Switzerland with a win over the hosts.

1718
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Speaker 4: This morning and at Grimaldi's on the show, she's going

1719
01:24:24,467 --> 01:24:27,947
Speaker 4: to compete at the Diamond League event in Eugene, Oregon,

1720
01:24:28,027 --> 01:24:32,347
Speaker 4: tomorrow morning. One of our great paralympians. She's in the

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01:24:32,427 --> 01:24:34,187
Speaker 4: one hundred meters going to chat about that with us

1722
01:24:34,227 --> 01:24:38,827
Speaker 4: and Jamie McKay speaking of Royalty, Southern Royalty. Jamie McKay,

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01:24:38,987 --> 01:24:42,187
Speaker 4: host of the country and probably the most famous man

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01:24:42,267 --> 01:24:44,667
Speaker 4: in Dunedin, has also come in the doors here at

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01:24:44,707 --> 01:24:47,667
Speaker 4: Emerson's and he'll maybe wrap the show for us in

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01:24:47,787 --> 01:24:51,307
Speaker 4: his inimitable fashion just before three o'clock. You can come

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01:24:51,347 --> 01:24:53,467
Speaker 4: and see us at Emerson's or give us a l

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Speaker 4: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine two ninety two.

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01:24:55,827 --> 01:24:58,667
Speaker 4: We'll get you through on our text line. But as

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01:24:58,707 --> 01:25:00,667
Speaker 4: we took over nine pass two, as we always do

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Speaker 4: at around about this time on weekend Sport, it's time

1732
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Speaker 4: to get you up to date with some of the

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01:25:05,267 --> 01:25:07,067
Speaker 4: things that might have escaped during tension of the last

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01:25:07,067 --> 01:25:10,107
Speaker 4: twenty four hours or so. In case you missed it

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Speaker 4: starting with our under twenty all Blacks an impressive showing

1736
01:25:13,827 --> 01:25:15,747
Speaker 4: this morning against Georgia.

1737
01:25:15,627 --> 01:25:19,987
Speaker 5: Blamers carrying in the middle Odin Rhyne. This has a juggling.

1738
01:25:20,067 --> 01:25:23,587
Speaker 3: It doesn't allow him to screech our Oh Canora.

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01:25:23,827 --> 01:25:33,667
Speaker 8: They material from Maloney fins up for the These Zealanders.

1740
01:25:33,147 --> 01:25:36,427
Speaker 4: Again fins up love at thirty eight nineteen win is,

1741
01:25:36,467 --> 01:25:38,627
Speaker 4: giving them two wins from two to start their World

1742
01:25:38,667 --> 01:25:42,187
Speaker 4: Cup campaign. To the NRL. The Broncos were the comeback

1743
01:25:42,307 --> 01:25:43,947
Speaker 4: kids last night against the Bulldogs.

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01:25:44,147 --> 01:25:51,107
Speaker 2: Walters Reynolds PRIs a Cheftain.

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01:25:52,307 --> 01:25:54,027
Speaker 18: Stop press.

1746
01:25:57,387 --> 01:25:57,947
Speaker 5: To take the.

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01:25:58,027 --> 01:26:01,507
Speaker 4: Lafe had twenty to eighteen winners, handing the Doggies back

1748
01:26:01,587 --> 01:26:04,827
Speaker 4: to back losses. Drama meantime at the end of day

1749
01:26:04,947 --> 01:26:07,787
Speaker 4: two in the second Crew Test between the West Indies

1750
01:26:07,867 --> 01:26:11,227
Speaker 4: and Australia, and again.

1751
01:26:11,867 --> 01:26:14,667
Speaker 3: Very similar, in fact eerily similar.

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01:26:15,267 --> 01:26:19,147
Speaker 19: What's on the person ends it was Azari Josephin It's

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01:26:19,267 --> 01:26:21,387
Speaker 19: Jerms is now on?

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Speaker 17: The show continues for.

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Speaker 4: Twacha Australia twelve for two and their second innings a

1756
01:26:26,827 --> 01:26:29,907
Speaker 4: lead of just forty five with eight seconds innings wickets

1757
01:26:29,947 --> 01:26:34,907
Speaker 4: and hands a couple of hometown heroes. Meantime have exited Wimbledon,

1758
01:26:35,267 --> 01:26:39,907
Speaker 4: Emma Radakanu falling to Arena Sablenka, with Jack Draper going

1759
01:26:39,987 --> 01:26:42,267
Speaker 4: down to an impressive Marin Chilich.

1760
01:26:45,907 --> 01:26:51,507
Speaker 20: About living dangerously water when from Chewitch since sixteen off

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Speaker 20: the back of double surgery, thirty six years young and

1762
01:26:55,747 --> 01:26:57,747
Speaker 20: without a shadow at that one of the biggest wins

1763
01:26:58,187 --> 01:26:59,867
Speaker 20: in the last few years for Chilich.

1764
01:27:00,747 --> 01:27:05,427
Speaker 4: Que of moments, and finally the King has returned to

1765
01:27:05,547 --> 01:27:08,707
Speaker 4: the famous Nathan's hot dog eating contest.

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Speaker 21: Say of a god perhaps, but more than a man

1767
01:27:14,427 --> 01:27:19,147
Speaker 21: with seventy point five hot dogs and buns in ten

1768
01:27:19,267 --> 01:27:24,627
Speaker 21: minutes the Nathan's famous Fourth of July Champion of the World.

1769
01:27:25,107 --> 01:27:26,747
Speaker 4: Joey Jesna.

1770
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Speaker 1: Breaking down the Hail Mary's and the Olympic Fields. Weekend

1771
01:27:33,307 --> 01:27:36,627
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason hin Newstalk Zenvy.

1772
01:27:36,787 --> 01:27:39,387
Speaker 4: Coming up twelve minutes past two form All Blacks captain

1773
01:27:39,667 --> 01:27:42,587
Speaker 4: and Southern Man Well Ashley. Is he a Southern man?

1774
01:27:42,667 --> 01:27:44,867
Speaker 4: He's from the North Island, isn't he? But he spent

1775
01:27:44,907 --> 01:27:47,427
Speaker 4: a lot of his rugby time here in the South.

1776
01:27:47,547 --> 01:27:50,187
Speaker 4: Taine Randall going to join us in the next little while,

1777
01:27:50,227 --> 01:27:52,587
Speaker 4: but want to kick off this hour with basketball because

1778
01:27:53,027 --> 01:27:57,427
Speaker 4: New Zealand has surged to an historic quarterfinal win over

1779
01:27:57,547 --> 01:28:01,467
Speaker 4: hosts Switzerland at Basketball's Under nineteen World Cup.

1780
01:28:02,067 --> 01:28:09,107
Speaker 1: That's baseline creates how boy judges getting.

1781
01:28:08,867 --> 01:28:10,867
Speaker 3: Around a defender Jones.

1782
01:28:12,627 --> 01:28:15,107
Speaker 19: The night goes to New Zealand as they claim their

1783
01:28:15,227 --> 01:28:20,027
Speaker 19: first ever trip to the fever U nineteen Basketball World

1784
01:28:20,107 --> 01:28:23,587
Speaker 19: Cup semi final, and it will in the second half

1785
01:28:23,747 --> 01:28:28,347
Speaker 19: like no other, New Zealand has outsports Switzerland forty six

1786
01:28:28,827 --> 01:28:31,787
Speaker 19: the twenty six in the last forty minutes.

1787
01:28:32,387 --> 01:28:34,467
Speaker 4: Yeah, down by six points at half time, the junior

1788
01:28:34,507 --> 01:28:37,947
Speaker 4: Tall Blacks won eighty four points to seventy, the first

1789
01:28:38,067 --> 01:28:41,507
Speaker 4: time they've made the semifinals of the global events. In

1790
01:28:41,627 --> 01:28:46,547
Speaker 4: this age group semifinals of the feb Under nineteen World Cup.

1791
01:28:46,907 --> 01:28:49,547
Speaker 4: Head coach Matt Lacy is with us out of Switzerland. Matt,

1792
01:28:49,547 --> 01:28:52,667
Speaker 4: congratulations to you on the team on a superb result.

1793
01:28:52,747 --> 01:28:55,587
Speaker 4: Before we talk some specifics, how do you assist your

1794
01:28:55,707 --> 01:28:58,427
Speaker 4: sides overall performance in general terms?

1795
01:28:59,507 --> 01:28:59,707
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1796
01:28:59,787 --> 01:29:00,187
Speaker 10: Overall?

1797
01:29:00,227 --> 01:29:02,467
Speaker 22: I thought that, you know, just to come out with

1798
01:29:02,587 --> 01:29:05,027
Speaker 22: the women having been down year six and a half,

1799
01:29:05,067 --> 01:29:06,787
Speaker 22: that we're down ten in the second quarter order and

1800
01:29:07,387 --> 01:29:10,187
Speaker 22: what is really a road game given that we were

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01:29:10,267 --> 01:29:14,187
Speaker 22: playing the Swiss in Switzerland, so thousand fans you know

1802
01:29:14,267 --> 01:29:17,027
Speaker 22: in the building, and overall I thought we just called it.

1803
01:29:17,227 --> 01:29:20,267
Speaker 10: You know, we had our composure to us.

1804
01:29:20,227 --> 01:29:24,307
Speaker 22: There in the second half and really kind of stake

1805
01:29:24,427 --> 01:29:25,587
Speaker 22: poised and big moments.

1806
01:29:26,307 --> 01:29:27,627
Speaker 10: I thought we were under the pump a little bit

1807
01:29:27,627 --> 01:29:28,667
Speaker 10: in the first half, we got.

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01:29:28,547 --> 01:29:30,467
Speaker 22: A little bit brush but overall, just really pleased with

1809
01:29:30,547 --> 01:29:32,107
Speaker 22: the guys bounce back in the second half.

1810
01:29:32,307 --> 01:29:33,987
Speaker 4: Yeah, the third quarter was the big one. You won

1811
01:29:34,067 --> 01:29:36,787
Speaker 4: that twenty nine to twelve. What were the conversations you

1812
01:29:36,907 --> 01:29:38,747
Speaker 4: had with your players at halftime.

1813
01:29:40,027 --> 01:29:41,987
Speaker 22: Yeah, I think it was just that offensively, you know,

1814
01:29:42,067 --> 01:29:43,747
Speaker 22: we needed to slow down and just you know, they

1815
01:29:43,787 --> 01:29:46,347
Speaker 22: were really up and then and pressuring us, and we

1816
01:29:46,467 --> 01:29:47,867
Speaker 22: just needed to kind of take our time a little

1817
01:29:47,907 --> 01:29:51,467
Speaker 22: bit more and handle the pressure a little bit better,

1818
01:29:51,507 --> 01:29:53,307
Speaker 22: which we did, and I think we kind of just

1819
01:29:53,347 --> 01:29:54,987
Speaker 22: played into the height of the game a little bit,

1820
01:29:54,987 --> 01:29:57,107
Speaker 22: you know, the crowd and the energy of the opposition.

1821
01:29:58,147 --> 01:29:59,307
Speaker 10: So the message really was just.

1822
01:29:59,387 --> 01:30:02,827
Speaker 22: To stay calm and play our game, and I thought

1823
01:30:02,867 --> 01:30:04,467
Speaker 22: we kind of took a breath and we made a

1824
01:30:04,507 --> 01:30:06,227
Speaker 22: couple of shots on the night where we didn't shoot

1825
01:30:06,227 --> 01:30:08,427
Speaker 22: the all well, but that third quarter kind of got

1826
01:30:08,507 --> 01:30:11,107
Speaker 22: us going and then overall we just rebounded the ball

1827
01:30:11,107 --> 01:30:12,307
Speaker 22: a little bit better in the third two.

1828
01:30:12,707 --> 01:30:14,787
Speaker 4: Could you feel the momentum of the game shift? It

1829
01:30:15,147 --> 01:30:17,227
Speaker 4: was there a point during that third quarter where the

1830
01:30:17,387 --> 01:30:19,547
Speaker 4: energy of the game shifted into your favor.

1831
01:30:20,667 --> 01:30:21,267
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think so.

1832
01:30:21,387 --> 01:30:25,187
Speaker 22: I mean, Hayden Jones was huge tonight, just you know,

1833
01:30:25,307 --> 01:30:27,507
Speaker 22: top scoring for us, but just the poise that he had,

1834
01:30:27,587 --> 01:30:29,947
Speaker 22: and there are a few plays where he got downhill

1835
01:30:29,987 --> 01:30:32,027
Speaker 22: into the pain and got to two feet and whether.

1836
01:30:31,907 --> 01:30:34,267
Speaker 10: He got the score to the layout or got fouled.

1837
01:30:34,267 --> 01:30:35,587
Speaker 10: You know, we got to the three throw line.

1838
01:30:35,587 --> 01:30:37,907
Speaker 22: Weld on that third quarter, and I think as you

1839
01:30:38,107 --> 01:30:41,467
Speaker 22: just kind of build positions on top of each other,

1840
01:30:41,627 --> 01:30:43,347
Speaker 22: and Hayden was kind of at the forefront of.

1841
01:30:43,387 --> 01:30:44,747
Speaker 18: That for us.

1842
01:30:44,947 --> 01:30:47,227
Speaker 10: The tides started to turn, even though we didn't take

1843
01:30:47,227 --> 01:30:49,027
Speaker 10: the lead initially, you know, kind of things swung in

1844
01:30:49,067 --> 01:30:49,467
Speaker 10: our favor.

1845
01:30:49,547 --> 01:30:49,907
Speaker 11: For sure.

1846
01:30:50,307 --> 01:30:52,107
Speaker 4: I look at his at his stat line. I know

1847
01:30:52,147 --> 01:30:54,427
Speaker 4: it's a team game, but twenty three points, nine rebounds,

1848
01:30:54,467 --> 01:30:57,427
Speaker 4: five assists, four blocks, You reckon, he might end up

1849
01:30:57,467 --> 01:30:58,507
Speaker 4: being better than his old man.

1850
01:31:01,347 --> 01:31:03,307
Speaker 10: Hey, he's he's got all the making through it.

1851
01:31:03,387 --> 01:31:04,947
Speaker 22: I mean, fire was pretty good in his own right,

1852
01:31:05,067 --> 01:31:09,307
Speaker 22: But no, Hayden's been he's been huge. I mean tonight

1853
01:31:09,387 --> 01:31:11,387
Speaker 22: little tournament. I mean, I think it's the second game

1854
01:31:11,427 --> 01:31:14,867
Speaker 22: his top squads have that stat line. And you know,

1855
01:31:14,947 --> 01:31:17,067
Speaker 22: the thing about tonight was our point guard Tom Isaac,

1856
01:31:17,067 --> 01:31:19,587
Speaker 22: who's been tremendous, was in oul trouble, and so Hayden

1857
01:31:19,667 --> 01:31:21,987
Speaker 22: had to step up and take have the ball in

1858
01:31:22,067 --> 01:31:24,227
Speaker 22: his hands a little bit more. And I think that's

1859
01:31:24,347 --> 01:31:27,067
Speaker 22: just a sign of a really really talented young man

1860
01:31:27,187 --> 01:31:29,667
Speaker 22: that can kind of move out of position and take

1861
01:31:29,707 --> 01:31:32,547
Speaker 22: on the road when our starting PG has to sit.

1862
01:31:33,467 --> 01:31:35,627
Speaker 4: The under seventeen tall Blacks made the Semis at their

1863
01:31:35,667 --> 01:31:37,707
Speaker 4: World Cup last year. There are five from what I

1864
01:31:37,827 --> 01:31:40,307
Speaker 4: can see from that squad and this one. Are we

1865
01:31:40,427 --> 01:31:42,387
Speaker 4: looking mad at a? I mean, I don't want to

1866
01:31:42,427 --> 01:31:43,827
Speaker 4: sort of put the cart before the horse, but a

1867
01:31:43,867 --> 01:31:46,787
Speaker 4: golden generation to match what we had in the early

1868
01:31:46,867 --> 01:31:47,947
Speaker 4: two thousands.

1869
01:31:47,627 --> 01:31:50,387
Speaker 22: That's right, We'll do that, yeah, I think so, you know,

1870
01:31:50,547 --> 01:31:53,987
Speaker 22: I mean the I think the numbers speak for themselves.

1871
01:31:54,027 --> 01:31:56,067
Speaker 22: You know, we've got twelve players here. Ten have been

1872
01:31:56,107 --> 01:31:59,227
Speaker 22: playing in the sous NBL, and rapidly nine of them

1873
01:31:59,267 --> 01:32:01,587
Speaker 22: are on scholarship in the US or heading over there.

1874
01:32:01,627 --> 01:32:04,187
Speaker 22: Shortly eight of which are at the Division IE level.

1875
01:32:05,627 --> 01:32:06,267
Speaker 10: So I think it is.

1876
01:32:06,587 --> 01:32:08,787
Speaker 22: It is very much that, But I would say too

1877
01:32:09,027 --> 01:32:11,747
Speaker 22: like it's also a sign of the times in New Zealand.

1878
01:32:11,787 --> 01:32:13,027
Speaker 22: I mean basketball is growing.

1879
01:32:13,147 --> 01:32:13,827
Speaker 10: You know, we've got.

1880
01:32:13,747 --> 01:32:15,667
Speaker 22: Another team in China right now that have just been

1881
01:32:15,707 --> 01:32:18,467
Speaker 22: in Australia twice in a couple of games there. You know,

1882
01:32:18,587 --> 01:32:22,347
Speaker 22: I think I think New Zealanders can get used to

1883
01:32:23,467 --> 01:32:27,947
Speaker 22: more competitive basketball teams, but a nation that has swung

1884
01:32:28,027 --> 01:32:30,787
Speaker 22: that way in terms of participation, and ultimately we're kind

1885
01:32:30,787 --> 01:32:32,907
Speaker 22: of showing that now on the world stage with some

1886
01:32:32,987 --> 01:32:35,547
Speaker 22: of these performances at the Judic and just.

1887
01:32:35,627 --> 01:32:37,627
Speaker 4: On that as well. Is there a feeling now among

1888
01:32:37,787 --> 01:32:41,347
Speaker 4: the playing group that participating at these tournaments is no

1889
01:32:41,507 --> 01:32:44,627
Speaker 4: longer enough, that winning games and going deep into them

1890
01:32:45,147 --> 01:32:46,747
Speaker 4: is the new reality for these guys.

1891
01:32:48,027 --> 01:32:48,627
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think so.

1892
01:32:48,867 --> 01:32:50,747
Speaker 22: And you know, one thing that we've reflected on as

1893
01:32:50,747 --> 01:32:53,747
Speaker 22: a coaching staff, but they're playing pros every week. You know,

1894
01:32:53,827 --> 01:32:57,787
Speaker 22: they're playing alongside veterans and tall blacks and playing against them,

1895
01:32:57,787 --> 01:33:00,827
Speaker 22: and it's just hardening them to high level hoops. And

1896
01:33:00,907 --> 01:33:02,707
Speaker 22: so when you come to a tournament like this and

1897
01:33:02,747 --> 01:33:06,107
Speaker 22: you're playing your pairs very talented peers for sure, But

1898
01:33:06,747 --> 01:33:08,907
Speaker 22: you know, there's a there's an experienced factor, there's a

1899
01:33:08,987 --> 01:33:12,907
Speaker 22: confidence factor there, and I think the mindset is certainly

1900
01:33:13,027 --> 01:33:16,347
Speaker 22: changed from let's qualify for these for these events, and

1901
01:33:16,427 --> 01:33:17,907
Speaker 22: now that's gone and won a medal.

1902
01:33:18,787 --> 01:33:21,387
Speaker 4: So a semi final now against the United States of America,

1903
01:33:21,467 --> 01:33:23,107
Speaker 4: I guess that could be in some ways a little

1904
01:33:23,107 --> 01:33:25,187
Speaker 4: bit daunting. How do you how do you prepare your

1905
01:33:25,227 --> 01:33:25,787
Speaker 4: team for that one?

1906
01:33:27,267 --> 01:33:28,987
Speaker 22: Yeah, I mean we've just got back to the hotel,

1907
01:33:29,107 --> 01:33:31,427
Speaker 22: so they're going to need and go away and put

1908
01:33:31,507 --> 01:33:33,987
Speaker 22: some schemes together. But you know, they got pushed all

1909
01:33:33,987 --> 01:33:35,987
Speaker 22: the way to the life by Canada just in their

1910
01:33:36,067 --> 01:33:39,467
Speaker 22: quarterfinal and only won by a few points.

1911
01:33:39,507 --> 01:33:40,387
Speaker 10: They were down in the four.

1912
01:33:40,547 --> 01:33:42,667
Speaker 22: So I think, you know, that gives us a confidence that,

1913
01:33:43,147 --> 01:33:45,307
Speaker 22: you know, this is a this is a very talented

1914
01:33:45,387 --> 01:33:50,347
Speaker 22: and you know, athletic team, but they're also not invincible,

1915
01:33:51,147 --> 01:33:53,507
Speaker 22: and so you know, excited for the opportunity, excited for

1916
01:33:53,547 --> 01:33:54,027
Speaker 22: the challenge.

1917
01:33:54,067 --> 01:33:56,027
Speaker 10: These boys are all heading.

1918
01:33:55,787 --> 01:33:57,787
Speaker 22: Over to the US to play in the collegiate system,

1919
01:33:57,827 --> 01:34:01,707
Speaker 22: alongside them, against them, and so to get a crack at.

1920
01:34:01,667 --> 01:34:05,147
Speaker 10: Them tomorrow night. It's going to be an exciting opportunity as.

1921
01:34:05,067 --> 01:34:06,907
Speaker 4: You say, road game for you, but like a good

1922
01:34:07,027 --> 01:34:09,347
Speaker 4: key week contingent of support in the stands. You're getting

1923
01:34:09,387 --> 01:34:10,427
Speaker 4: good support over.

1924
01:34:10,307 --> 01:34:12,147
Speaker 10: There, Yeah we are.

1925
01:34:12,227 --> 01:34:16,267
Speaker 22: We've got some really excited and passionate parents with us

1926
01:34:16,347 --> 01:34:18,227
Speaker 22: and family members that were sitting behind the bench.

1927
01:34:18,347 --> 01:34:21,427
Speaker 10: And yeah we got the defense chart going.

1928
01:34:21,347 --> 01:34:25,067
Speaker 22: There for a second, and yeah, really really nice to

1929
01:34:25,147 --> 01:34:26,907
Speaker 22: have when you're in a when you're surrounded by a

1930
01:34:26,987 --> 01:34:27,587
Speaker 22: CF Swiss.

1931
01:34:28,387 --> 01:34:30,307
Speaker 4: Love it, Matt. Congrats again, mate, go and get that

1932
01:34:30,427 --> 01:34:34,107
Speaker 4: voice rested up for a semi final against the United States.

1933
01:34:34,307 --> 01:34:35,627
Speaker 4: Well done to you and the team mate, Thanks for

1934
01:34:35,747 --> 01:34:36,627
Speaker 4: joining us this afternoon.

1935
01:34:36,827 --> 01:34:38,747
Speaker 10: Sure, Jason, thank you mate.

1936
01:34:38,787 --> 01:34:41,027
Speaker 4: That is our Matt Lacy, head coach of the Junior

1937
01:34:41,067 --> 01:34:44,067
Speaker 4: Tall Blacks. So into the semi finals they go. Six

1938
01:34:44,107 --> 01:34:46,867
Speaker 4: o'clock tomorrow morning, New Zealand time is when you need

1939
01:34:46,907 --> 01:34:48,787
Speaker 4: to be up and about to check out their semi

1940
01:34:48,907 --> 01:34:52,027
Speaker 4: final against the United States of America. Who would have

1941
01:34:52,027 --> 01:34:54,107
Speaker 4: thought it, For back to back years, one of our

1942
01:34:54,187 --> 01:34:57,787
Speaker 4: underage men's basketball teams into the semi finals of their

1943
01:34:57,867 --> 01:35:00,267
Speaker 4: World Cup. It is two nineteen.

1944
01:35:00,667 --> 01:35:01,947
Speaker 3: Weekends for it.

1945
01:35:02,467 --> 01:35:05,347
Speaker 4: We come to your life from Emerson's in Duned and

1946
01:35:05,547 --> 01:35:09,107
Speaker 4: it's absolutely humming in here. Andrew Hore has arrived. We're

1947
01:35:09,107 --> 01:35:10,867
Speaker 4: going to get a chance to chat to the eighty

1948
01:35:10,947 --> 01:35:14,587
Speaker 4: three Test All Blacks hooker very shortly. But it's a

1949
01:35:14,627 --> 01:35:18,067
Speaker 4: great pleasure to be joined by former Otago Highlanders and

1950
01:35:18,187 --> 01:35:21,747
Speaker 4: All Blacks captain Tane Randall sixty one games for the

1951
01:35:21,787 --> 01:35:25,747
Speaker 4: All Blacks, including fifty one Test matches, Test captain twenty

1952
01:35:25,827 --> 01:35:29,507
Speaker 4: two times, seventy seven Super rugby games for the Highlanders,

1953
01:35:29,867 --> 01:35:33,667
Speaker 4: eighty three provincial games for Otago, and the big highlight

1954
01:35:33,747 --> 01:35:36,307
Speaker 4: for Otago was when he led them to the NPC

1955
01:35:36,547 --> 01:35:40,347
Speaker 4: First Division title in nineteen ninety eighteen. Randal with that,

1956
01:35:40,347 --> 01:35:41,867
Speaker 4: it's great to see you mate, Thanks for stopping in.

1957
01:35:42,227 --> 01:35:44,187
Speaker 4: How do you feel when you fly back into dneed

1958
01:35:44,227 --> 01:35:45,907
Speaker 4: in a place which is so special to you?

1959
01:35:46,627 --> 01:35:50,187
Speaker 18: Thanks for making me feel really old, great to be.

1960
01:35:50,307 --> 01:35:53,387
Speaker 4: Here when you come back to Duneeda and you've got

1961
01:35:53,427 --> 01:35:55,987
Speaker 4: so many rugby memories here, I'm sure what's it like

1962
01:35:56,067 --> 01:35:57,467
Speaker 4: coming back because you're based in hawks Bay.

1963
01:35:57,387 --> 01:35:59,307
Speaker 23: Now, ay, you're based on in my families from them,

1964
01:35:59,307 --> 01:36:00,627
Speaker 23: my wife's families from hawks Bay.

1965
01:36:01,907 --> 01:36:02,067
Speaker 12: You know.

1966
01:36:02,187 --> 01:36:04,507
Speaker 23: We came down here to university, had an amazing time

1967
01:36:04,547 --> 01:36:07,747
Speaker 23: live for a good dozen years and just loved the place,

1968
01:36:07,787 --> 01:36:11,187
Speaker 23: and I got two kids down here now right in

1969
01:36:11,227 --> 01:36:14,547
Speaker 23: the thick of their university Castle Street careers, so.

1970
01:36:15,027 --> 01:36:16,947
Speaker 18: Probably spend more time down here than I should do.

1971
01:36:17,067 --> 01:36:18,227
Speaker 18: But it's great.

1972
01:36:18,227 --> 01:36:20,947
Speaker 4: When I am what are you what are your fondest

1973
01:36:20,987 --> 01:36:23,907
Speaker 4: memories of rugby here and Toned and down South?

1974
01:36:24,987 --> 01:36:29,827
Speaker 23: I think, depending I'm really happy of the career I

1975
01:36:29,867 --> 01:36:32,787
Speaker 23: had made, maybe because it sort of spanned amateur sort of,

1976
01:36:33,067 --> 01:36:36,027
Speaker 23: the first few years of professional Raby, which was really

1977
01:36:36,187 --> 01:36:39,707
Speaker 23: semi professional where he got paid like professionals but trained

1978
01:36:39,827 --> 01:36:41,227
Speaker 23: like semi.

1979
01:36:41,027 --> 01:36:44,947
Speaker 18: Amateurs excuse and then you know, going.

1980
01:36:44,827 --> 01:36:48,467
Speaker 23: Through to fully professional I really appreciated and it was

1981
01:36:48,507 --> 01:36:49,187
Speaker 23: it better, was it worse?

1982
01:36:49,227 --> 01:36:49,867
Speaker 17: It was just different.

1983
01:36:50,827 --> 01:36:53,787
Speaker 23: And I think when I when I look back, you

1984
01:36:53,907 --> 01:36:56,707
Speaker 23: make a lot of friends playing rugby, but the closest

1985
01:36:56,747 --> 01:36:59,787
Speaker 23: friends I've got are university friends and also the ones

1986
01:36:59,827 --> 01:37:01,867
Speaker 23: who also in the amateur days where you sort of

1987
01:37:02,027 --> 01:37:05,707
Speaker 23: did things because you're passionate about it, and that's what

1988
01:37:05,787 --> 01:37:09,267
Speaker 23: I'm really really contrasted to when I'm playing over the London.

1989
01:37:09,427 --> 01:37:12,427
Speaker 23: By the time i'd finished Raby was my my respective

1990
01:37:12,507 --> 01:37:17,507
Speaker 23: was very very professional and you became workmates rather than

1991
01:37:17,867 --> 01:37:20,347
Speaker 23: you know, really good friends. So when I come down here,

1992
01:37:20,387 --> 01:37:22,387
Speaker 23: I catch up with the people. As I say, I

1993
01:37:22,507 --> 01:37:24,387
Speaker 23: used to flat with, you, go through all that sort

1994
01:37:24,387 --> 01:37:27,827
Speaker 23: of stuff, used to play rugby with. And you know,

1995
01:37:28,227 --> 01:37:30,027
Speaker 23: my wife puts a limit on how many times I

1996
01:37:30,147 --> 01:37:31,667
Speaker 23: come down, and I usually when I do come down,

1997
01:37:31,707 --> 01:37:32,107
Speaker 23: it takes me.

1998
01:37:32,147 --> 01:37:34,987
Speaker 18: Months to get over. But anyway, great to be here.

1999
01:37:35,467 --> 01:37:36,467
Speaker 17: It's great to have you here.

2000
01:37:36,587 --> 01:37:38,387
Speaker 4: Just before we move on, and look at this game tonight.

2001
01:37:39,387 --> 01:37:42,267
Speaker 4: That that move from amateur to professional or semi professional

2002
01:37:42,347 --> 01:37:44,667
Speaker 4: as you call it. You know that spanned across the

2003
01:37:44,867 --> 01:37:47,027
Speaker 4: back end of the nineties, and and NPC was still

2004
01:37:47,067 --> 01:37:49,707
Speaker 4: big too, wasn't it. Otago was still you know what

2005
01:37:49,947 --> 01:37:52,227
Speaker 4: was that a team you enjoyed still playing for even

2006
01:37:52,227 --> 01:37:53,347
Speaker 4: though the Highlanders were there too.

2007
01:37:53,547 --> 01:37:57,587
Speaker 23: Yeah, you know I enjoyed playing for me both the

2008
01:37:57,667 --> 01:37:59,907
Speaker 23: Tiger and the Highlands. It was seamless.

2009
01:38:01,747 --> 01:38:01,947
Speaker 18: Part.

2010
01:38:02,227 --> 01:38:03,747
Speaker 23: You know, a lot of the same guys played in

2011
01:38:03,867 --> 01:38:07,627
Speaker 23: both teams. I didn't say I enjoyed one more night.

2012
01:38:07,707 --> 01:38:11,587
Speaker 23: I just loved them both. And you know, my wife, ah,

2013
01:38:11,667 --> 01:38:13,067
Speaker 23: would you do the same thing I do it if

2014
01:38:13,227 --> 01:38:16,067
Speaker 23: given the same, given the chance, I do everything the same.

2015
01:38:16,347 --> 01:38:18,067
Speaker 18: If I could say, yeah, I.

2016
01:38:18,187 --> 01:38:19,587
Speaker 4: Love that, or I least look at this game tonight.

2017
01:38:19,627 --> 01:38:21,027
Speaker 4: How do you feel about the all black side that's

2018
01:38:21,067 --> 01:38:23,547
Speaker 4: been named in particular? I mean, the loose fours are interesting,

2019
01:38:23,627 --> 01:38:26,667
Speaker 4: right to plevit into six, Artie Savita seven, Christian Leo,

2020
01:38:26,707 --> 01:38:28,507
Speaker 4: Willie will Day Boo at eight with a couple of

2021
01:38:28,587 --> 01:38:30,027
Speaker 4: looses on the bench. Do you how do you like

2022
01:38:30,107 --> 01:38:31,227
Speaker 4: the mix to be?

2023
01:38:31,347 --> 01:38:32,107
Speaker 18: Perfectly honest?

2024
01:38:32,107 --> 01:38:34,307
Speaker 23: I mean, I've never been this I haven't been this

2025
01:38:34,427 --> 01:38:36,667
Speaker 23: excited about an all back team for a long while.

2026
01:38:37,667 --> 01:38:41,227
Speaker 23: It seems to me, finally, after a number of years,

2027
01:38:41,467 --> 01:38:43,587
Speaker 23: they've actually picked a team with a strategy in mind

2028
01:38:44,227 --> 01:38:45,667
Speaker 23: of how they want to play and what they want

2029
01:38:45,707 --> 01:38:48,587
Speaker 23: to do, rather than picking the best players and putting

2030
01:38:48,587 --> 01:38:51,107
Speaker 23: them in the team. Probably the best example, you know,

2031
01:38:51,147 --> 01:38:54,027
Speaker 23: I'm right back, but Boden Barrett was World Player.

2032
01:38:53,787 --> 01:38:56,747
Speaker 18: Of the Year twice at first five. So what do

2033
01:38:56,827 --> 01:38:58,267
Speaker 18: we do, Well, we're two good first fives.

2034
01:38:58,267 --> 01:39:00,707
Speaker 23: We'll put him at fullback to fit everyone in now,

2035
01:39:00,867 --> 01:39:04,187
Speaker 23: Ardie Savia and Sam Cane. We had two works in

2036
01:39:04,267 --> 01:39:07,707
Speaker 23: my opinion, to world class number seven, and rather than

2037
01:39:07,867 --> 01:39:12,387
Speaker 23: making a really brave call of of you know, choosing

2038
01:39:12,427 --> 01:39:15,587
Speaker 23: the best loose forward combination, they chose to put them

2039
01:39:15,587 --> 01:39:17,667
Speaker 23: both in the team and d'gan mirror. They both played

2040
01:39:17,707 --> 01:39:21,307
Speaker 23: really well already fantastic, but as I don't think they've

2041
01:39:21,307 --> 01:39:23,267
Speaker 23: played it as a combination as well as they could have.

2042
01:39:24,507 --> 01:39:26,907
Speaker 23: And you know, for for most, for most teams, when

2043
01:39:26,907 --> 01:39:29,387
Speaker 23: you know the All Blacks are putting the best players on,

2044
01:39:30,427 --> 01:39:32,587
Speaker 23: it's good enough to beat most teams in the world.

2045
01:39:33,147 --> 01:39:35,827
Speaker 23: But when you're in South Africa or front of your

2046
01:39:35,907 --> 01:39:38,187
Speaker 23: top two or three four teams, and Iland were not.

2047
01:39:38,307 --> 01:39:40,867
Speaker 23: We weren't good enough to do that. And that's been

2048
01:39:40,907 --> 01:39:43,067
Speaker 23: proven over the last number of years. And so you know,

2049
01:39:43,187 --> 01:39:47,627
Speaker 23: I still know the Richie mccaugh Kiaren Reed, Jerome Cano,

2050
01:39:48,107 --> 01:39:51,547
Speaker 23: the combination of one plus one plus one equals twenty

2051
01:39:51,987 --> 01:39:54,267
Speaker 23: the way you know, they just had a fantastic combination.

2052
01:39:54,587 --> 01:39:58,187
Speaker 23: I think fetching, hard working defense of seven, a ball

2053
01:39:58,307 --> 01:40:00,947
Speaker 23: playing eight. You know, a big strong man at Sex

2054
01:40:01,267 --> 01:40:03,387
Speaker 23: or thereof, we've sort of hadn't done that for the

2055
01:40:03,507 --> 01:40:06,107
Speaker 23: last five or six years. And I see, you know,

2056
01:40:06,147 --> 01:40:10,427
Speaker 23: with with Ardi at seven, Lear Williet artist, artist is fantastic.

2057
01:40:10,907 --> 01:40:12,987
Speaker 18: He's a fantastic over the wall and his great running.

2058
01:40:12,987 --> 01:40:16,307
Speaker 23: You will Willie big work rate defensively and there's some

2059
01:40:16,467 --> 01:40:19,547
Speaker 23: risk with to perveil on on on the blind side.

2060
01:40:20,107 --> 01:40:25,347
Speaker 23: But you know he he fits physically the description of

2061
01:40:25,467 --> 01:40:28,427
Speaker 23: a number six in terms of really given that I

2062
01:40:28,507 --> 01:40:30,467
Speaker 23: believe we've got the sort of seven and eight role

2063
01:40:31,387 --> 01:40:34,827
Speaker 23: in place, he fits the description of what competes the combination.

2064
01:40:34,987 --> 01:40:39,267
Speaker 23: So you I love all us for Trio, just the

2065
01:40:39,307 --> 01:40:42,267
Speaker 23: fact that they've chosen a combination. And the same way

2066
01:40:42,387 --> 01:40:44,427
Speaker 23: with Billy Procter and at center.

2067
01:40:44,547 --> 01:40:46,387
Speaker 18: You know where I think about key roles, what is it?

2068
01:40:46,387 --> 01:40:46,987
Speaker 17: What is the center?

2069
01:40:47,107 --> 01:40:47,547
Speaker 7: Do you know?

2070
01:40:47,907 --> 01:40:52,147
Speaker 23: In New Zealand overseas teams fair outside wingers. Now, we've

2071
01:40:52,427 --> 01:40:55,787
Speaker 23: historically had strike wingers who just you know, get the

2072
01:40:55,827 --> 01:40:58,627
Speaker 23: ball and they cause damage. They're not high work rate

2073
01:40:58,667 --> 01:41:02,187
Speaker 23: little guys that big impact winger Joan olom You, Sibvatu,

2074
01:41:03,187 --> 01:41:07,107
Speaker 23: the whole, just big impact wingers. And with rec he's

2075
01:41:07,147 --> 01:41:09,067
Speaker 23: a winger to me. But the core role of the

2076
01:41:09,147 --> 01:41:13,347
Speaker 23: center two things I believe. Firstly, defensive organization. Billy Proctor's

2077
01:41:13,347 --> 01:41:13,587
Speaker 23: got that.

2078
01:41:13,987 --> 01:41:14,107
Speaker 10: Now.

2079
01:41:14,187 --> 01:41:15,227
Speaker 18: Rico is a great.

2080
01:41:15,107 --> 01:41:18,627
Speaker 23: Defender one on one, big hitter, but in terms of organization,

2081
01:41:18,747 --> 01:41:20,987
Speaker 23: he's not Frank, but he's not Conrad Smith.

2082
01:41:21,107 --> 01:41:22,947
Speaker 18: And that's what I think. Bully procter Us and the

2083
01:41:23,027 --> 01:41:25,747
Speaker 18: other key one, the key role as I see the

2084
01:41:25,827 --> 01:41:27,587
Speaker 18: center is get the ball to our wingers.

2085
01:41:29,587 --> 01:41:33,587
Speaker 23: With Rico, he's devastate, played incredibly well, but I guess

2086
01:41:33,787 --> 01:41:36,667
Speaker 23: the issue we had there. He'd do really well in

2087
01:41:36,747 --> 01:41:38,667
Speaker 23: the midfield in terms of making breaks, but we never

2088
01:41:38,747 --> 01:41:40,747
Speaker 23: saw our wingers as much as we should have. I'm

2089
01:41:40,827 --> 01:41:46,227
Speaker 23: hoping that tonight, with you Bully at center and Rico

2090
01:41:46,267 --> 01:41:48,747
Speaker 23: on the wing, that Rico gets at least three tries

2091
01:41:48,947 --> 01:41:50,147
Speaker 23: because we're getting the ball to the wing.

2092
01:41:50,627 --> 01:41:54,307
Speaker 4: This is just outstanding and Ellis's honestly, this is just brilliant.

2093
01:41:54,307 --> 01:41:56,147
Speaker 4: I just be writing all of this down for use

2094
01:41:56,227 --> 01:41:58,987
Speaker 4: during the commentary later on. The all Blacks are up

2095
01:41:58,987 --> 01:42:01,387
Speaker 4: against the side, they should be comfortably. We know France haven't.

2096
01:42:01,787 --> 01:42:04,147
Speaker 4: Haven't sent anywhere close to what is their top side

2097
01:42:04,387 --> 01:42:06,787
Speaker 4: as an all black and an all black side approach

2098
01:42:06,827 --> 01:42:08,467
Speaker 4: a game like that when it could be a bit

2099
01:42:08,467 --> 01:42:10,707
Speaker 4: of a no win situation. Really, if you wouldn't, you're

2100
01:42:10,707 --> 01:42:13,667
Speaker 4: supposed to. If you don't when convincingly, you probably get

2101
01:42:13,787 --> 01:42:15,027
Speaker 4: you know, some bad headlines.

2102
01:42:15,267 --> 01:42:19,587
Speaker 23: Yeah, and in a funny way, Okay, the top teams,

2103
01:42:19,667 --> 01:42:21,747
Speaker 23: it's going to take a lot of edge off the series.

2104
01:42:21,827 --> 01:42:24,747
Speaker 23: And but I when I look at the All Backs

2105
01:42:24,787 --> 01:42:26,507
Speaker 23: team what they've known. It's actually a great option that

2106
01:42:26,547 --> 01:42:27,867
Speaker 23: the French team are going to be difficult.

2107
01:42:27,907 --> 01:42:28,387
Speaker 17: What they've done.

2108
01:42:28,427 --> 01:42:30,747
Speaker 18: They've chosen some big, big fourds.

2109
01:42:30,787 --> 01:42:33,707
Speaker 23: It's going to be a physical battle, and I think

2110
01:42:33,787 --> 01:42:37,867
Speaker 23: that's you know, I think from our given the way

2111
01:42:38,867 --> 01:42:41,507
Speaker 23: that I think the All Backs have changed strategic direction

2112
01:42:42,107 --> 01:42:46,547
Speaker 23: in a way. I yeah, maybe not as impactful as series,

2113
01:42:46,787 --> 01:42:49,227
Speaker 23: but I think the long run, if we can get

2114
01:42:49,267 --> 01:42:50,827
Speaker 23: a really good run at these guys and they will

2115
01:42:50,907 --> 01:42:53,747
Speaker 23: be difficult, it'll be a hard guy's going to get

2116
01:42:54,187 --> 01:42:57,627
Speaker 23: battered in this game, it'll be quite a good we

2117
01:42:58,107 --> 01:42:59,627
Speaker 23: may look back and go Actually, that was quite a

2118
01:42:59,627 --> 01:43:01,467
Speaker 23: good series for us to really kick start the way

2119
01:43:01,507 --> 01:43:04,947
Speaker 23: that Scott Robertson and et cetera have chosen to go.

2120
01:43:05,587 --> 01:43:09,027
Speaker 4: Just before you go, Jonah, before that test in two

2121
01:43:09,107 --> 01:43:12,227
Speaker 4: thousand in Sydney, one hundred and ten thousand people, your

2122
01:43:12,387 --> 01:43:15,267
Speaker 4: pass to Jonah to send him away for the winning try.

2123
01:43:15,987 --> 01:43:18,467
Speaker 4: Where does that rank among your favorite rugby moments?

2124
01:43:20,227 --> 01:43:21,987
Speaker 18: That would be up there? He never did thank me

2125
01:43:22,147 --> 01:43:23,307
Speaker 18: for setting him up, and.

2126
01:43:27,067 --> 01:43:29,427
Speaker 23: I Jonah we played at school set all the way

2127
01:43:29,507 --> 01:43:31,227
Speaker 23: through under sixties and that sort of stuff.

2128
01:43:31,227 --> 01:43:32,147
Speaker 18: He was just phenomenal.

2129
01:43:32,387 --> 01:43:36,387
Speaker 23: I as I said, I loved every moment of my

2130
01:43:36,747 --> 01:43:39,627
Speaker 23: rugby career, but that game, especially given that you know,

2131
01:43:39,787 --> 01:43:41,387
Speaker 23: Ossie with a world champion, you a little bit to

2132
01:43:41,467 --> 01:43:43,707
Speaker 23: make up on been dropped as the All Black captain,

2133
01:43:44,587 --> 01:43:46,987
Speaker 23: and it was just a phenomenal game. And the fact

2134
01:43:47,027 --> 01:43:49,147
Speaker 23: people are still talking about it twenty odd years later,

2135
01:43:49,347 --> 01:43:51,587
Speaker 23: and not just New Zealand as others as well, I

2136
01:43:51,667 --> 01:43:55,067
Speaker 23: think shows the impact that that game had to be.

2137
01:43:55,867 --> 01:43:58,347
Speaker 18: You know, at the time we were and fantastics only.

2138
01:43:58,467 --> 01:44:00,267
Speaker 18: I guess I.

2139
01:44:00,307 --> 01:44:03,147
Speaker 23: Didn't really think it took a lot longer. I think

2140
01:44:03,947 --> 01:44:06,627
Speaker 23: afterwards maybe the bears of dim the memory, but that

2141
01:44:06,707 --> 01:44:08,547
Speaker 23: one that makes that one stick out more.

2142
01:44:09,307 --> 01:44:10,827
Speaker 18: But I'm very proud of done that.

2143
01:44:10,987 --> 01:44:13,987
Speaker 23: And yeah, as I say, it was a great, great occasion,

2144
01:44:14,947 --> 01:44:17,667
Speaker 23: and yeah we're still talking about now, so that can't.

2145
01:44:17,507 --> 01:44:20,027
Speaker 4: Be too bad, absolutely right, Tane. It's great to have

2146
01:44:20,147 --> 01:44:22,747
Speaker 4: you stopping here at Emerson's to chat to us, enjoy

2147
01:44:22,787 --> 01:44:25,907
Speaker 4: the game tonight. Really appreciate your time, Jess. As Tane

2148
01:44:25,987 --> 01:44:29,347
Speaker 4: Randall among the patrons here at Emerson's, everywhere you look

2149
01:44:29,387 --> 01:44:32,507
Speaker 4: you see somebody with a bit of rugby history. Great

2150
01:44:32,547 --> 01:44:36,187
Speaker 4: to have Tane Randall join us. It is really humming

2151
01:44:36,267 --> 01:44:39,187
Speaker 4: along here at Emerson's Brewery now as we head towards

2152
01:44:39,667 --> 01:44:41,427
Speaker 4: the timing, I'm just trying to think of what time

2153
01:44:41,467 --> 01:44:43,667
Speaker 4: you'd have to leave here to get to the stadium.

2154
01:44:43,987 --> 01:44:46,467
Speaker 4: It's only a ten minute walk really, so I don't know.

2155
01:44:46,547 --> 01:44:49,147
Speaker 4: I get the feeling people will still be here sort

2156
01:44:49,187 --> 01:44:51,307
Speaker 4: of well past six o'clock. There might be a couple

2157
01:44:51,347 --> 01:44:54,627
Speaker 4: of stragglers past six thirty, but the short walk down

2158
01:44:54,667 --> 01:44:57,547
Speaker 4: to Forsyth Bars Stadium for the punters in here at

2159
01:44:57,587 --> 01:45:00,987
Speaker 4: Emerson's will be a very pleasant one. When I say pleasant,

2160
01:45:01,307 --> 01:45:05,067
Speaker 4: it is meant to clear. It was raining reasonably heavily yesterday,

2161
01:45:05,347 --> 01:45:08,227
Speaker 4: sort of annoying. I think I had it described to

2162
01:45:08,307 --> 01:45:10,027
Speaker 4: me as a little bit of more of that today.

2163
01:45:10,147 --> 01:45:12,027
Speaker 4: But it won't damp in the spirits, and of course

2164
01:45:12,107 --> 01:45:14,947
Speaker 4: under the roof tonight it won't make any difference at all.

2165
01:45:15,227 --> 01:45:17,107
Speaker 4: Lea take a break and then bring in another former

2166
01:45:17,187 --> 01:45:19,947
Speaker 4: All Black, another former All Black captain of rugby World

2167
01:45:19,947 --> 01:45:22,227
Speaker 4: Cup winner Andrew Horr is here. Can have a chat

2168
01:45:22,267 --> 01:45:28,187
Speaker 4: to him when we come back on Weekend Sport. The

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Speaker 1: Good Live from Emerson's Brewery in Dneda. It's Weekends scored

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Speaker 1: with Jason Pine and GJ Gun Homes you Zealand's most

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Speaker 4: They'd be two thirty three years Come into your life

2188
01:46:26,627 --> 01:46:28,907
Speaker 4: from Emerson's Brewery and Dunedin On the Dad the first

2189
01:46:28,947 --> 01:46:31,027
Speaker 4: All Blacks test of the year always amazing. Who you

2190
01:46:31,147 --> 01:46:33,707
Speaker 4: run into eighty three test All Black Andrew or Hollo mate?

2191
01:46:34,227 --> 01:46:34,427
Speaker 8: Mate?

2192
01:46:34,507 --> 01:46:36,827
Speaker 4: Yeah very well, thank you mate, good to see you.

2193
01:46:37,147 --> 01:46:39,507
Speaker 4: And amongst the punters here at some this wouldn't have

2194
01:46:39,507 --> 01:46:42,267
Speaker 4: been your first trip to Emerson's. I wouldn't imagine, no, but.

2195
01:46:42,547 --> 01:46:44,507
Speaker 17: It's quite a handy spot, isn't it. Go a few

2196
01:46:44,587 --> 01:46:46,667
Speaker 17: vs here and someone down on the rugby sart's perfect?

2197
01:46:46,747 --> 01:46:48,907
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely perfect. What are you up to these days?

2198
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Speaker 12: Mate?

2199
01:46:49,627 --> 01:46:51,827
Speaker 17: Just back home running the farm. So took over the

2200
01:46:51,867 --> 01:46:55,267
Speaker 17: farm ten years ago or something. So last year is

2201
01:46:55,307 --> 01:46:57,467
Speaker 17: pretty tough, the thinser strakes and prices and this year's

2202
01:46:57,467 --> 01:46:59,907
Speaker 17: things are looking pretty good. So farm is good and

2203
01:46:59,987 --> 01:47:01,707
Speaker 17: fun and just away from it down here. What's a

2204
01:47:01,707 --> 01:47:03,667
Speaker 17: bit of foody in a catch up a few people

2205
01:47:03,707 --> 01:47:04,467
Speaker 17: over the weekend?

2206
01:47:04,907 --> 01:47:07,867
Speaker 4: How far away from from central Dunedin is your farm?

2207
01:47:08,867 --> 01:47:12,027
Speaker 17: Probably two hours in the car? Okay? Yeah? If you

2208
01:47:12,067 --> 01:47:12,947
Speaker 17: don't have any stops?

2209
01:47:14,707 --> 01:47:14,907
Speaker 19: Do you?

2210
01:47:15,307 --> 01:47:15,347
Speaker 12: So?

2211
01:47:15,467 --> 01:47:16,427
Speaker 7: What is your what is you?

2212
01:47:16,587 --> 01:47:19,187
Speaker 4: You obviously talked about watching rugby these days? Do you

2213
01:47:19,267 --> 01:47:20,667
Speaker 4: have any more official involvement?

2214
01:47:21,227 --> 01:47:21,347
Speaker 12: Uh?

2215
01:47:21,667 --> 01:47:25,267
Speaker 17: Not really help out? See the Targo team were a

2216
01:47:25,347 --> 01:47:27,147
Speaker 17: couple of mates and I coached at for the Top

2217
01:47:27,227 --> 01:47:28,827
Speaker 17: Cup which we had to win this year on Alex

2218
01:47:29,067 --> 01:47:31,867
Speaker 17: is pretty good and to see how about the young

2219
01:47:31,947 --> 01:47:34,747
Speaker 17: fellow and has unopen grade TV here and Toneda how old.

2220
01:47:34,827 --> 01:47:38,227
Speaker 17: See he's twelve, so he's been around and seeing us

2221
01:47:38,267 --> 01:47:39,987
Speaker 17: here a Jordy be out this morning, so he's pumped

2222
01:47:39,987 --> 01:47:42,987
Speaker 17: about that. And I felt like a little group at

2223
01:47:43,027 --> 01:47:45,907
Speaker 17: the hotel. But there's sweets, so he's right into love it.

2224
01:47:46,067 --> 01:47:48,627
Speaker 4: So what's Andrew or the rugby coach? Like, are you

2225
01:47:49,507 --> 01:47:52,347
Speaker 4: you know what? What's what's your coaching style? Uh?

2226
01:47:53,827 --> 01:47:55,747
Speaker 17: Just pretty much I rolled just off the cuff really,

2227
01:47:57,147 --> 01:47:59,307
Speaker 17: no videos or anything like that. Just get out there

2228
01:47:59,347 --> 01:48:02,267
Speaker 17: and enjoy it. And if I can get the nineteen

2229
01:48:02,707 --> 01:48:03,947
Speaker 17: and the ball through of the wing, I've had a

2230
01:48:03,987 --> 01:48:04,347
Speaker 17: good day.

2231
01:48:05,707 --> 01:48:08,147
Speaker 4: Does your boy do they have positions at twelve? Like

2232
01:48:08,187 --> 01:48:09,347
Speaker 4: will he be a front run?

2233
01:48:11,467 --> 01:48:11,667
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2234
01:48:11,707 --> 01:48:13,507
Speaker 17: He's he's keen on all the things that are hard

2235
01:48:13,547 --> 01:48:15,827
Speaker 17: to coach. He loves tackling and getting into the turnovers

2236
01:48:15,867 --> 01:48:18,507
Speaker 17: and that stuff. And if it's rain yet, he's disappointing.

2237
01:48:18,547 --> 01:48:21,267
Speaker 17: So he's really passionate about it. But as long as

2238
01:48:21,307 --> 01:48:23,307
Speaker 17: he enjoys it, his little sister comes along and tags

2239
01:48:23,347 --> 01:48:25,627
Speaker 17: on as well, so it's it started to look more

2240
01:48:25,667 --> 01:48:26,347
Speaker 17: and more like rugby.

2241
01:48:26,507 --> 01:48:29,347
Speaker 4: Love it, love it. I think your provincial day boobers

2242
01:48:29,387 --> 01:48:30,787
Speaker 4: for Otago, wasn't it ninety eight?

2243
01:48:30,947 --> 01:48:33,227
Speaker 17: Yes, back in ninety eight when I think I played

2244
01:48:33,227 --> 01:48:34,947
Speaker 17: the start of the only game he lost to Waikato

2245
01:48:35,027 --> 01:48:37,467
Speaker 17: that year. But now that was great. We got there

2246
01:48:37,547 --> 01:48:40,427
Speaker 17: in a very semi professional one the NBC that year,

2247
01:48:40,467 --> 01:48:40,987
Speaker 17: so it sponsive.

2248
01:48:41,107 --> 01:48:43,067
Speaker 4: Yeah, we just had Tane Randall on. He said exactly that.

2249
01:48:43,147 --> 01:48:45,467
Speaker 4: I think he was captain that year. That it was

2250
01:48:46,027 --> 01:48:48,267
Speaker 4: well super rugby had been there for a couple of

2251
01:48:48,347 --> 01:48:51,347
Speaker 4: three years, but it was semi professional when it first started.

2252
01:48:51,627 --> 01:48:53,187
Speaker 4: Does that how you remember it as well? When you

2253
01:48:53,267 --> 01:48:54,187
Speaker 4: first became a print.

2254
01:48:54,107 --> 01:48:57,307
Speaker 17: Oh yeah, for sure. It was a Tuesday Thursday training

2255
01:48:57,427 --> 01:48:59,307
Speaker 17: is a big thing him had just started. I think

2256
01:48:59,387 --> 01:49:02,907
Speaker 17: we got a Votera phone cell phone for the first

2257
01:49:02,947 --> 01:49:04,787
Speaker 17: time and anyone had the Snake game on that. So

2258
01:49:05,507 --> 01:49:08,227
Speaker 17: it's come a long way and some obviously a lot

2259
01:49:08,267 --> 01:49:10,547
Speaker 17: of good stuff and some bed stuff. There's a lot

2260
01:49:10,587 --> 01:49:12,147
Speaker 17: more tries in that squared back in the day with

2261
01:49:12,227 --> 01:49:15,067
Speaker 17: there's a lot more space. So yeah, rugby keeps involving.

2262
01:49:15,107 --> 01:49:16,747
Speaker 4: I suppose I was at a function with you a

2263
01:49:16,827 --> 01:49:18,747
Speaker 4: year ago and you were talking about how rugby has

2264
01:49:18,867 --> 01:49:22,187
Speaker 4: changed a lot. It's changed a lot in many ways

2265
01:49:22,227 --> 01:49:24,027
Speaker 4: on the field but also off the field, and you

2266
01:49:24,107 --> 01:49:26,787
Speaker 4: made a great point about it, how sometimes things can

2267
01:49:26,867 --> 01:49:28,707
Speaker 4: just be sorted out over a beer, but that doesn't

2268
01:49:28,707 --> 01:49:29,867
Speaker 4: happen quite so much these.

2269
01:49:30,067 --> 01:49:32,867
Speaker 17: Not as much there. Yeah, it's funny I Penny and

2270
01:49:32,947 --> 01:49:35,147
Speaker 17: Emerson's and to do such a big thing for rugby

2271
01:49:35,187 --> 01:49:37,307
Speaker 17: and stuff. But yeah, a lot of things can be

2272
01:49:37,347 --> 01:49:38,827
Speaker 17: sort of over a beer and some can't be. But

2273
01:49:41,027 --> 01:49:42,947
Speaker 17: I suppose the modern era don't really like talking to

2274
01:49:43,227 --> 01:49:44,987
Speaker 17: people and skinning out and socialized as much as we

2275
01:49:45,107 --> 01:49:47,027
Speaker 17: used to, and we probably didn't like going to the

2276
01:49:47,067 --> 01:49:49,187
Speaker 17: gym as much as they do. So it's a there's

2277
01:49:49,227 --> 01:49:51,347
Speaker 17: a happy medium somewhere used to How do you.

2278
01:49:51,347 --> 01:49:53,387
Speaker 4: Reflect on your rugby your career though all I mean

2279
01:49:53,427 --> 01:49:57,267
Speaker 4: it was a terrific career, eighty three test matches, rugby

2280
01:49:57,307 --> 01:49:59,067
Speaker 4: World Cup won, you went to two World Cups, you

2281
01:49:59,187 --> 01:50:01,907
Speaker 4: kept in the All Blacks in twenty eleven against Canada.

2282
01:50:01,947 --> 01:50:03,867
Speaker 4: How do you think back on it much?

2283
01:50:04,747 --> 01:50:07,827
Speaker 17: Not a great deal, was pretty lucky really, so obviously

2284
01:50:07,947 --> 01:50:09,747
Speaker 17: a big change. And I talked about that thing well

2285
01:50:09,787 --> 01:50:11,747
Speaker 17: into last year. I was getting out of the getting

2286
01:50:11,787 --> 01:50:13,547
Speaker 17: out of a compas zone and moving up to Taranicky

2287
01:50:13,627 --> 01:50:16,187
Speaker 17: and focused on footy up there and on the way

2288
01:50:17,147 --> 01:50:19,787
Speaker 17: lucky enough captain by the Leaserary Andy Slater and then

2289
01:50:19,947 --> 01:50:23,387
Speaker 17: got called with the Crusaders and had Todd Blackhead was

2290
01:50:23,747 --> 01:50:26,707
Speaker 17: a skipper those days, so it was a lot different.

2291
01:50:26,747 --> 01:50:28,667
Speaker 17: You'd get into a team, you get thrown one hundred

2292
01:50:28,707 --> 01:50:31,187
Speaker 17: thousand dollars and told look after it how you think

2293
01:50:32,107 --> 01:50:34,467
Speaker 17: And then finally we worked out that as probably wasn't

2294
01:50:34,467 --> 01:50:35,947
Speaker 17: the best thought of you to give twenty or one

2295
01:50:36,027 --> 01:50:38,707
Speaker 17: year olds that much money, and we moved on. It's

2296
01:50:38,787 --> 01:50:41,547
Speaker 17: changed so much. You got provisional development and you know,

2297
01:50:41,707 --> 01:50:44,427
Speaker 17: the academies and all those sorts of things are coming along,

2298
01:50:44,507 --> 01:50:48,027
Speaker 17: so it's changed a lot, but yeah, there's still a

2299
01:50:48,067 --> 01:50:49,507
Speaker 17: lot of good good on the old days as well.

2300
01:50:49,867 --> 01:50:52,827
Speaker 4: You did you consider yourself just to be just did

2301
01:50:52,867 --> 01:50:54,787
Speaker 4: you consider yourself to be a farmer who played rugby

2302
01:50:54,907 --> 01:50:56,627
Speaker 4: or a rugby come from.

2303
01:50:56,507 --> 01:50:58,507
Speaker 17: The bar very much a farmer who played rugby for

2304
01:50:58,547 --> 01:51:02,387
Speaker 17: the start, And then when I went away it's sort

2305
01:51:02,387 --> 01:51:04,427
Speaker 17: of clicked a little bit towards her later on two

2306
01:51:04,467 --> 01:51:07,387
Speaker 17: thousand and seven on, it was more this is I

2307
01:51:07,467 --> 01:51:09,507
Speaker 17: actually can play the game properly and deserve to be here.

2308
01:51:09,587 --> 01:51:12,547
Speaker 17: So it was great, well lasted. It's not so good

2309
01:51:12,587 --> 01:51:13,667
Speaker 17: now and he got out of bed and trying to

2310
01:51:13,707 --> 01:51:16,627
Speaker 17: pull the socks and that on. But uh, that's our Yeah,

2311
01:51:16,627 --> 01:51:17,467
Speaker 17: wouldn't change anything.

2312
01:51:17,507 --> 01:51:19,547
Speaker 4: We could certainly play two thousand and eight. You see

2313
01:51:19,587 --> 01:51:21,627
Speaker 4: on Rugby Player of the Year. Can I tell you

2314
01:51:21,627 --> 01:51:23,547
Speaker 4: about the Rugby World Cup Final? You came off the

2315
01:51:23,667 --> 01:51:25,747
Speaker 4: last half hour? What was that half hour like?

2316
01:51:26,747 --> 01:51:29,627
Speaker 17: Uh? It was pretty good being out there because you

2317
01:51:29,627 --> 01:51:31,827
Speaker 17: could probably do something about it. Yeah, other four million

2318
01:51:31,867 --> 01:51:34,907
Speaker 17: of us couldn't. But we're doing some un characteristic things.

2319
01:51:34,907 --> 01:51:37,147
Speaker 17: I think we're out there and just so I got

2320
01:51:37,187 --> 01:51:39,587
Speaker 17: on the air, Skipper did a quick quick kickoff that's

2321
01:51:39,667 --> 01:51:41,987
Speaker 17: never been done before. We sort of we panted a

2322
01:51:41,987 --> 01:51:44,627
Speaker 17: little bit, but in the end the old heads any

2323
01:51:44,667 --> 01:51:48,707
Speaker 17: allis Ali Williams myself, I think lucky enough had a

2324
01:51:48,747 --> 01:51:50,387
Speaker 17: bit of experience on the bench and we come through

2325
01:51:50,427 --> 01:51:51,947
Speaker 17: and I was never in doubt. Really was it?

2326
01:51:52,067 --> 01:51:52,227
Speaker 6: Well?

2327
01:51:52,307 --> 01:51:52,427
Speaker 9: Oh?

2328
01:51:52,507 --> 01:51:56,507
Speaker 4: No, well seven you know I'm not. No one was

2329
01:51:56,587 --> 01:51:58,827
Speaker 4: nervous at all. As you say they're being out there,

2330
01:51:58,867 --> 01:52:00,987
Speaker 4: I guess you can't. You know what would have been

2331
01:52:01,027 --> 01:52:01,587
Speaker 4: worth sitting on the.

2332
01:52:01,587 --> 01:52:04,227
Speaker 17: Beach, would yeah to be hopeless, Yeah, I say out there,

2333
01:52:04,267 --> 01:52:06,267
Speaker 17: and as I suppose you trained for those in the

2334
01:52:06,387 --> 01:52:08,067
Speaker 17: bigger moments. I think I had to throw the ball

2335
01:52:08,107 --> 01:52:10,747
Speaker 17: on at the end and to Breadthorn to seal the game.

2336
01:52:10,867 --> 01:52:13,267
Speaker 17: So it was probably more relief than anything for the

2337
01:52:13,307 --> 01:52:15,187
Speaker 17: whole New Zealand that we finally got over the line.

2338
01:52:15,227 --> 01:52:19,227
Speaker 17: And as I said, it was very hard. Alcoholics don't

2339
01:52:19,227 --> 01:52:22,587
Speaker 17: get enough appreciation to draw and drink every down of

2340
01:52:22,587 --> 01:52:24,787
Speaker 17: the week for teen days sort of caught up on us.

2341
01:52:26,107 --> 01:52:28,227
Speaker 4: Isn't true that the Freaks boys went to the gym

2342
01:52:28,347 --> 01:52:28,947
Speaker 4: the next morning?

2343
01:52:29,507 --> 01:52:29,627
Speaker 14: Uh?

2344
01:52:29,947 --> 01:52:32,787
Speaker 17: Yeah, they were on the way to the gym and

2345
01:52:32,827 --> 01:52:37,227
Speaker 17: I was trying to form a room, so it was yeah.

2346
01:52:37,947 --> 01:52:39,507
Speaker 17: And we're all good mates as well, So there was

2347
01:52:39,507 --> 01:52:41,187
Speaker 17: this part of sports of the opposite the track and

2348
01:52:41,227 --> 01:52:43,267
Speaker 17: we all get on for a common cause and we

2349
01:52:43,307 --> 01:52:44,787
Speaker 17: were lucky enough to win the World Cup and then

2350
01:52:45,787 --> 01:52:48,027
Speaker 17: the dream Runner carried on to the twenty fifteen which

2351
01:52:48,107 --> 01:52:49,947
Speaker 17: was a was a great series as well.

2352
01:52:50,147 --> 01:52:52,107
Speaker 4: So presumably you're going to the game tonight, even just

2353
01:52:52,107 --> 01:52:53,947
Speaker 4: come up for the for the Emerson's hospitality.

2354
01:52:54,387 --> 01:52:56,467
Speaker 17: No, we can't get Emersons up we're all come from

2355
01:52:56,587 --> 01:52:58,707
Speaker 17: the farm, not just come down of the game. And

2356
01:52:58,787 --> 01:53:01,467
Speaker 17: yeah beaving us, have you had a few mates and yes,

2357
01:53:01,587 --> 01:53:04,347
Speaker 17: that feeling like you were something on Wallager good stuff.

2358
01:53:04,427 --> 01:53:06,227
Speaker 4: And so your okay still to work on the farm.

2359
01:53:06,707 --> 01:53:09,027
Speaker 4: Then the sort of the niggles you know from rugby

2360
01:53:09,067 --> 01:53:09,627
Speaker 4: don't affect that.

2361
01:53:10,027 --> 01:53:12,907
Speaker 17: Uh yeah, just can't run or fast or you still

2362
01:53:12,987 --> 01:53:14,467
Speaker 17: doing anything like that, But yeah, the niggles are there.

2363
01:53:15,187 --> 01:53:16,947
Speaker 17: I didn't play rugby, wouldn't have a farm either, So

2364
01:53:17,107 --> 01:53:20,267
Speaker 17: that's another way to look at it. So I gotta

2365
01:53:20,267 --> 01:53:22,707
Speaker 17: have a lot out of rugby. And yeah, and hopefully

2366
01:53:22,747 --> 01:53:24,747
Speaker 17: we could carry on and have good times and watch

2367
01:53:24,787 --> 01:53:25,587
Speaker 17: good Test match night.

2368
01:53:25,707 --> 01:53:27,507
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's look forth to it. Great to see you mate,

2369
01:53:27,547 --> 01:53:30,947
Speaker 4: thanks for stopping in. I hate to separate a man

2370
01:53:30,987 --> 01:53:32,827
Speaker 4: from his ber So you get that Emerson's and go

2371
01:53:32,947 --> 01:53:35,107
Speaker 4: and continue your socialize and good to see your mate.

2372
01:53:35,147 --> 01:53:35,907
Speaker 17: See your sex mate.

2373
01:53:36,027 --> 01:53:38,587
Speaker 4: It's Andrew Hoore, former All Blacks Howker joining us here

2374
01:53:38,747 --> 01:53:43,787
Speaker 4: on on weekend sport here at Emerson's in Dunedin. It's yeah,

2375
01:53:43,787 --> 01:53:45,787
Speaker 4: it's a real buzz here. It's it says, I say,

2376
01:53:45,987 --> 01:53:50,027
Speaker 4: just a short jaunt, a short walk to forsythe pastadium

2377
01:53:50,067 --> 01:53:52,867
Speaker 4: from here. It's been wonderful to be hosted at Emerson's

2378
01:53:52,907 --> 01:53:55,507
Speaker 4: this afternoon. We'll take a break and then we're going

2379
01:53:55,547 --> 01:53:57,507
Speaker 4: to wrap the show with a bit of Southern royalty.

2380
01:53:57,667 --> 01:54:01,027
Speaker 4: Jamie McKay, host of the Country, probably the most famous

2381
01:54:01,107 --> 01:54:02,867
Speaker 4: man in Dunedin, is going to come and have a

2382
01:54:02,947 --> 01:54:04,867
Speaker 4: chat to us, joined by a member of the team

2383
01:54:04,907 --> 01:54:07,107
Speaker 4: here at Emerson's, to tell us a little bit about

2384
01:54:07,107 --> 01:54:09,587
Speaker 4: the place and what the rest of the night might

2385
01:54:09,667 --> 01:54:12,627
Speaker 4: look like. It's News Talks EDB. It's Weekend Sport and

2386
01:54:12,827 --> 01:54:14,747
Speaker 4: it is nineteen away from three.

2387
01:54:16,787 --> 01:54:19,627
Speaker 1: Counting down to the first All Blacks Tests of twenty

2388
01:54:19,787 --> 01:54:23,667
Speaker 1: twenty five on your Home of Sport. Is Weekend Sport

2389
01:54:23,827 --> 01:54:27,427
Speaker 1: with Jason Pine and GJ. Gunn Homes New Zealand's most

2390
01:54:27,507 --> 01:54:29,547
Speaker 1: trusted home builder, News talk EDB.

2391
01:54:29,947 --> 01:54:32,307
Speaker 4: Two forty four on News Talks VB and Weekend Sport.

2392
01:54:32,467 --> 01:54:35,667
Speaker 4: Our time here at Emerson's, well in a radio sense anyway,

2393
01:54:35,787 --> 01:54:38,267
Speaker 4: is sadly coming to an end. It would not be

2394
01:54:38,347 --> 01:54:40,147
Speaker 4: difficult for all to settle in here for the next

2395
01:54:40,227 --> 01:54:42,827
Speaker 4: few hours. I must tell you before kickoff at five

2396
01:54:42,947 --> 01:54:45,507
Speaker 4: past seven and talk about leaving the best tall last,

2397
01:54:45,667 --> 01:54:49,067
Speaker 4: joined by Emerson sales and marketing manager Greg Menzi's nice

2398
01:54:49,067 --> 01:54:51,307
Speaker 4: to see you, Greg, Hey, piny, very good, thanks mate.

2399
01:54:51,347 --> 01:54:54,067
Speaker 4: And the most famous man in Dunedin Jamie mckaye, host

2400
01:54:54,107 --> 01:54:56,707
Speaker 4: of the Country Officer of the New Zealand Order of Merit,

2401
01:54:57,107 --> 01:55:00,067
Speaker 4: and the name behind a beer that's brewed behind us

2402
01:55:00,067 --> 01:55:00,587
Speaker 4: here Jamie.

2403
01:55:00,867 --> 01:55:04,707
Speaker 16: Yeah, well, I'm proud to have their association with Emerson's.

2404
01:55:04,707 --> 01:55:09,067
Speaker 16: It's a long standing one proof that their product works. Piney,

2405
01:55:09,307 --> 01:55:11,427
Speaker 16: But I just want to get a week correction in

2406
01:55:11,507 --> 01:55:13,667
Speaker 16: for you. The most important man in Dunedin is far

2407
01:55:13,787 --> 01:55:16,547
Speaker 16: from me. I think Richard Emerson and Greg would agree

2408
01:55:16,587 --> 01:55:19,467
Speaker 16: with me. For Godfather, I don't think he's here today, no.

2409
01:55:19,547 --> 01:55:21,347
Speaker 5: And he won't be hearing this because he's quite deaf.

2410
01:55:21,507 --> 01:55:23,907
Speaker 16: Yeah, okay, well but he's a great bloke. He's the

2411
01:55:23,947 --> 01:55:26,827
Speaker 16: most important man in Derneda. We'll transcribe it and give

2412
01:55:26,867 --> 01:55:27,227
Speaker 16: it to him.

2413
01:55:27,227 --> 01:55:29,387
Speaker 4: He founded the brewery in nineteen ninety two, of course

2414
01:55:29,587 --> 01:55:32,827
Speaker 4: they did, Greg, And you've been open here. We worked

2415
01:55:32,827 --> 01:55:36,507
Speaker 4: out before the show nine years ago yesterday, Yeah, celebrating

2416
01:55:36,747 --> 01:55:39,387
Speaker 4: the ninth anniversary. This place is great, man, Is this

2417
01:55:39,587 --> 01:55:41,227
Speaker 4: what you imagine? Nine years ago?

2418
01:55:41,907 --> 01:55:44,107
Speaker 24: We hoped it would be really good we knew that

2419
01:55:44,187 --> 01:55:46,267
Speaker 24: being right like four hundred meters from the stadium, it

2420
01:55:46,347 --> 01:55:47,707
Speaker 24: was going to be a great venue to go to

2421
01:55:47,867 --> 01:55:50,467
Speaker 24: before events, and so we really hoped it would turn

2422
01:55:50,507 --> 01:55:52,587
Speaker 24: into something like this, and it's a great place. So

2423
01:55:52,667 --> 01:55:55,227
Speaker 24: it's just as has an amazing hum to it at

2424
01:55:55,227 --> 01:55:55,547
Speaker 24: the moment.

2425
01:55:55,787 --> 01:55:59,187
Speaker 4: That's the ambiance is the thing. You know, you arrive

2426
01:55:59,267 --> 01:56:00,787
Speaker 4: in a place and you think this place has got

2427
01:56:00,827 --> 01:56:04,067
Speaker 4: a great vibe about it. So I think they were

2428
01:56:04,187 --> 01:56:06,707
Speaker 4: also telling me, you know, before we start that you

2429
01:56:06,827 --> 01:56:08,227
Speaker 4: kind of wanted it as a bit of a I

2430
01:56:08,307 --> 01:56:11,027
Speaker 4: guess a bit of an advertising billboard really, but it's

2431
01:56:11,027 --> 01:56:13,587
Speaker 4: actually grown into something which is pretty substantial for you.

2432
01:56:13,787 --> 01:56:15,707
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a pretty big hospital outlett.

2433
01:56:15,747 --> 01:56:15,867
Speaker 12: Now.

2434
01:56:16,387 --> 01:56:18,027
Speaker 24: We did originally think it was just going to be

2435
01:56:18,147 --> 01:56:21,067
Speaker 24: like a marketing exercise in having the face of Emerson's,

2436
01:56:21,347 --> 01:56:23,627
Speaker 24: but it's turned into a real hub of the community

2437
01:56:23,667 --> 01:56:25,867
Speaker 24: in Doneda and so we're really proud.

2438
01:56:25,667 --> 01:56:28,027
Speaker 5: Of what we've done here and what people have made it. Really,

2439
01:56:28,067 --> 01:56:29,547
Speaker 5: the Duanedan people have made it, not us.

2440
01:56:29,787 --> 01:56:32,507
Speaker 4: It's great speaking of the Dandian people. You know, it

2441
01:56:32,667 --> 01:56:35,427
Speaker 4: is a test weekend in Donedian and I reckon more

2442
01:56:35,467 --> 01:56:37,347
Speaker 4: than any other city in the country. You can go

2443
01:56:37,387 --> 01:56:40,147
Speaker 4: to Auckland, Jamie on a Test weekend and not really

2444
01:56:40,307 --> 01:56:42,267
Speaker 4: know that there's a Test match on until it arrives.

2445
01:56:42,587 --> 01:56:44,987
Speaker 4: I got here yesterday and there's no way you can

2446
01:56:45,027 --> 01:56:47,267
Speaker 4: go ten minutes in Dunedin without knowing it's Test weekend.

2447
01:56:47,467 --> 01:56:48,867
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it is a big deal for US.

2448
01:56:48,947 --> 01:56:50,227
Speaker 17: Auckland blessed.

2449
01:56:50,267 --> 01:56:52,987
Speaker 16: Auckland has lots of other things going on, so it

2450
01:56:53,187 --> 01:56:57,467
Speaker 16: is a Test weekend is huge here and Gregg's being

2451
01:56:57,507 --> 01:56:59,827
Speaker 16: a bit modest, but Emerson's is second only to learn

2452
01:56:59,907 --> 01:57:02,947
Speaker 16: at Castle almost as an attraction here in Dunedan.

2453
01:57:02,787 --> 01:57:04,987
Speaker 5: And when it comes to tests in the translation as well.

2454
01:57:05,067 --> 01:57:05,267
Speaker 14: Yeah.

2455
01:57:05,347 --> 01:57:08,067
Speaker 16: It all started back in the twenty eleven Rugby World Cup,

2456
01:57:08,387 --> 01:57:10,547
Speaker 16: all happening in the Octagon and the fan walk from

2457
01:57:10,547 --> 01:57:14,027
Speaker 16: the Octagon to Forsyth Bar is only about twenty minutes,

2458
01:57:14,107 --> 01:57:16,747
Speaker 16: but this four or five hundred meters away from the

2459
01:57:16,827 --> 01:57:20,147
Speaker 16: stadium is a compulsory stop off for out of town

2460
01:57:20,227 --> 01:57:22,227
Speaker 16: as I always take them in here and the Emerson's

2461
01:57:22,267 --> 01:57:26,307
Speaker 16: brand is global, I guess these days. But North Islanders

2462
01:57:26,467 --> 01:57:29,067
Speaker 16: got some mates down from the Tapuki Rugby Club and

2463
01:57:29,267 --> 01:57:32,707
Speaker 16: they just love this place. They were waiting at the

2464
01:57:32,747 --> 01:57:34,947
Speaker 16: front door at about nine o'clock this morning, and why

2465
01:57:35,067 --> 01:57:36,627
Speaker 16: not and why wouldn't you.

2466
01:57:37,347 --> 01:57:39,267
Speaker 4: There's been a bit of chat obviously about christ you're

2467
01:57:39,267 --> 01:57:41,947
Speaker 4: getting its new stadium and the fact that that may

2468
01:57:42,027 --> 01:57:44,427
Speaker 4: affect Greg what you get here in terms of test matches.

2469
01:57:44,467 --> 01:57:47,587
Speaker 4: But as I was saying across the show, rugby in

2470
01:57:47,667 --> 01:57:50,547
Speaker 4: July should be under a roof Surely, surely test matches

2471
01:57:50,547 --> 01:57:52,707
Speaker 4: will continue to be played in Dneeda.

2472
01:57:52,907 --> 01:57:53,507
Speaker 5: Well, you'd hope.

2473
01:57:53,547 --> 01:57:55,907
Speaker 24: So I really hope that Danna is still considered for

2474
01:57:55,987 --> 01:57:58,067
Speaker 24: test matches because it is a great atmosphere in the

2475
01:57:58,107 --> 01:58:01,707
Speaker 24: city and the city does thrive on the rugby and

2476
01:58:01,827 --> 01:58:03,707
Speaker 24: so yeah, we'd be great to see the test matches

2477
01:58:03,707 --> 01:58:05,307
Speaker 24: stay here, but we'll see what happens.

2478
01:58:05,347 --> 01:58:07,107
Speaker 5: Well, you never know what's going to be around the corner.

2479
01:58:07,187 --> 01:58:10,147
Speaker 4: What is the talk to Are people at all concerned that,

2480
01:58:10,427 --> 01:58:12,827
Speaker 4: you know, with another roofed stadium and a new one

2481
01:58:12,907 --> 01:58:14,107
Speaker 4: up the road that is going to have to be

2482
01:58:14,187 --> 01:58:17,307
Speaker 4: fed with test matches and events that Forsyth far might

2483
01:58:17,587 --> 01:58:19,347
Speaker 4: fall down the pecking order a little bit or not.

2484
01:58:19,667 --> 01:58:22,307
Speaker 24: Definitely concerned about it, And I think, I mean, there's

2485
01:58:22,347 --> 01:58:24,587
Speaker 24: always a honeymoon period for any stadium, so we would

2486
01:58:24,627 --> 01:58:27,027
Speaker 24: imagine that Christis would get a few good games over

2487
01:58:27,027 --> 01:58:30,067
Speaker 24: the next few years, but eventually they'll come back to Janeda,

2488
01:58:30,147 --> 01:58:30,387
Speaker 24: I think.

2489
01:58:30,467 --> 01:58:34,147
Speaker 16: And yeah, yeah, Piney, I don't think the biggest limitation

2490
01:58:34,547 --> 01:58:36,947
Speaker 16: is the size of the stadium. They're both about thirty

2491
01:58:37,107 --> 01:58:39,147
Speaker 16: thousand each. And I was listening to you as we

2492
01:58:39,227 --> 01:58:41,947
Speaker 16: were coming in earlier this afternoon, and you'll bang on

2493
01:58:42,067 --> 01:58:45,307
Speaker 16: the three tests in the July window Northern Hemisphere teams.

2494
01:58:45,627 --> 01:58:47,867
Speaker 16: Two of the three are simply played under a roof,

2495
01:58:47,947 --> 01:58:50,427
Speaker 16: so that solves that problem. But the biggest problem here

2496
01:58:50,507 --> 01:58:53,587
Speaker 16: in Dunedin is the lack of accommodation. And I think

2497
01:58:53,667 --> 01:58:56,107
Speaker 16: that's where I worry that we're going to miss out

2498
01:58:56,387 --> 01:59:00,227
Speaker 16: for Christchurch because obviously they're rebuilding a new city, they've

2499
01:59:00,267 --> 01:59:03,867
Speaker 16: got better accommodation options than us because people are sometimes

2500
01:59:03,907 --> 01:59:06,307
Speaker 16: for the big tests here, people might have to travel

2501
01:59:06,467 --> 01:59:09,787
Speaker 16: from Bellclus or Amrou if they're looking for a bed.

2502
01:59:09,947 --> 01:59:12,307
Speaker 16: So that's the limiting factor, not the stadium.

2503
01:59:12,387 --> 01:59:14,507
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think that, and then I think, Okay,

2504
01:59:14,587 --> 01:59:17,107
Speaker 4: well it's sold out tonight, so everybody's got to stay somewhere.

2505
01:59:17,147 --> 01:59:19,627
Speaker 4: We've all made it here, haven't we haven't we made

2506
01:59:19,667 --> 01:59:21,587
Speaker 4: it here? I mean the stadium is not going to

2507
01:59:21,627 --> 01:59:24,427
Speaker 4: get any bigger, so we can fit thirty thousand people

2508
01:59:24,467 --> 01:59:26,747
Speaker 4: in there, or whatever it is. We can accommodate thirty

2509
01:59:26,787 --> 01:59:27,427
Speaker 4: thousand people.

2510
01:59:28,187 --> 01:59:28,627
Speaker 17: I get it.

2511
01:59:28,667 --> 01:59:31,547
Speaker 4: You've got to drive Wamoru or Bellcluther. People are still

2512
01:59:31,547 --> 01:59:32,467
Speaker 4: going to come, aren't they greet?

2513
01:59:32,587 --> 01:59:33,987
Speaker 5: Well, they'll still come, definitely.

2514
01:59:34,147 --> 01:59:35,747
Speaker 24: I've actually got a mate in here at the moment

2515
01:59:35,827 --> 01:59:39,347
Speaker 24: who emailed me last week and see Courtie Parker's CAMPAVN

2516
01:59:39,427 --> 01:59:41,587
Speaker 24: in the Emerson's car park, and I was going, O, mate,

2517
01:59:41,627 --> 01:59:42,187
Speaker 24: we can't do that.

2518
01:59:42,587 --> 01:59:44,787
Speaker 5: There's plenty of room down at the Oval. They can

2519
01:59:44,867 --> 01:59:45,587
Speaker 5: move in down there.

2520
01:59:45,707 --> 01:59:45,907
Speaker 12: Yeah.

2521
01:59:47,027 --> 01:59:50,147
Speaker 4: Do you sort of turn up on a morning and

2522
01:59:50,227 --> 01:59:52,027
Speaker 4: see that somebody has broken that rule?

2523
01:59:52,787 --> 01:59:52,987
Speaker 8: Yeah?

2524
01:59:52,987 --> 01:59:55,187
Speaker 5: I reckon tomorrow morning, the car park or Sylvie as

2525
01:59:55,227 --> 01:59:56,867
Speaker 5: full as it is now. Yeah, definitely.

2526
01:59:56,947 --> 02:00:01,427
Speaker 4: Well that's good sensible. You know drink driving protocols, Jamie.

2527
02:00:01,467 --> 02:00:03,267
Speaker 4: Before we go the game tonight, what are you expecting?

2528
02:00:04,147 --> 02:00:04,307
Speaker 8: Well?

2529
02:00:04,347 --> 02:00:07,187
Speaker 16: I look through the French team Piney, and I didn't

2530
02:00:07,227 --> 02:00:10,907
Speaker 16: recognize any names at all. Look, I really like this

2531
02:00:11,067 --> 02:00:13,547
Speaker 16: all black team. I'm so pleased that Billy Proctors at

2532
02:00:13,627 --> 02:00:16,627
Speaker 16: center and Riccoe Joanne's on the wing where he should

2533
02:00:16,707 --> 02:00:19,347
Speaker 16: never have left in my mind. And I like Ardie

2534
02:00:19,427 --> 02:00:23,347
Speaker 16: Savilla at number seven, and I and some people are

2535
02:00:23,387 --> 02:00:25,987
Speaker 16: concerned about two Pouvia. He's such a great athlete. I

2536
02:00:26,147 --> 02:00:27,987
Speaker 16: was a big fan of Scott Barrett being a long

2537
02:00:28,107 --> 02:00:30,187
Speaker 16: term six for the All Blacks. If we're going to

2538
02:00:30,227 --> 02:00:34,107
Speaker 16: beat South Africa in Auckland on September the sixth, we

2539
02:00:34,307 --> 02:00:37,347
Speaker 16: need big buggers, so we don't want small, loose forwards

2540
02:00:37,427 --> 02:00:39,867
Speaker 16: like we've had in the past. We need big locks

2541
02:00:40,027 --> 02:00:42,587
Speaker 16: and Fabian Holland is definitely one of those, and then

2542
02:00:42,627 --> 02:00:45,387
Speaker 16: a big bugger at six. So I'm really looking forward

2543
02:00:45,387 --> 02:00:47,107
Speaker 16: to seeing how Tupiva goes.

2544
02:00:47,267 --> 02:00:49,707
Speaker 4: All right, and Greg to finish, what's your best seller?

2545
02:00:49,987 --> 02:00:52,227
Speaker 4: What if someone wandered in and had never heard of

2546
02:00:52,307 --> 02:00:54,507
Speaker 4: Emerson's before, what would you be offering them?

2547
02:00:55,227 --> 02:00:57,187
Speaker 5: Posna by Fire as our biggest selling beer.

2548
02:00:57,947 --> 02:00:59,987
Speaker 24: And then there's Jamie's your favorite beer, which is haze

2549
02:01:00,027 --> 02:01:01,787
Speaker 24: to confused to the Hazy Opa.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, those two are probably the ones.

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Speaker 7: And Makaiser.

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Speaker 24: We haven't got Machai's on TAT yet. We haven't started

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Speaker 24: brewing that one yet, so it might be discontinued.

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Speaker 4: Look everything become we might have a piney point we

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Speaker 4: might have.

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Speaker 5: A Piney point.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, look, time moves on. Time waits for no man, Jamie, Greg.

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Speaker 4: Great to see you, Greg, Thanks you, Thanks for hosting

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Speaker 4: its mate. It's been awesome here today and let's let's

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Speaker 4: lock it in for a tenth anniversary special next year.

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Speaker 4: Love it all right and well done, Pioneered. The show's

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Speaker 4: sounding a million bucks. Good stuff. It's very kind of you, Jamie,

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Speaker 4: Jamie McKay and Greg Menzies. It's nine away from three

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Speaker 4: here at News Talks eNB.

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Speaker 1: Really live from Emerson's Brewery in Duneda as your Blacks

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Speaker 1: return to the field.

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Speaker 3: Weekend Sport with Jason Pine and GJ.

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Speaker 1: Gunner homes New Zealand's most trusted home builder on your

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Speaker 4: News Talks ed B coming up five to three and

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Speaker 4: that just about wraps us from Emerson's Brewery this afternoon.

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Speaker 4: Weekend Sport coming to you from Test City, Dunedin. Six

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Speaker 4: o'clock tonight. Our build up starts five past seven is

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Speaker 4: kickoff and we'll have full life commentary of every All

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Speaker 4: Blacks test this year here on News Talks. He'd be

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Speaker 4: huge thanks to my on site support team, I on

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Speaker 4: site Broadcasting Resource Martin and Holly. Great to have you

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Speaker 4: too here helping out today. Thanks to Anny McDonald back

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Speaker 4: on the studio for pulling the show together. A fantastic

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Speaker 4: Southern show today which earns you the right to to

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Speaker 4: find a song to go out with.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, Poney, it's obviously first All Blacks Test Week Tour

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Speaker 25: de France starts. Of course, You're down and toned and

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Speaker 25: Jamie showed up. It all seems to be the vibe.

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Speaker 25: All seems to be pointing to one song, and that

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Speaker 25: is Thinnlerzi's The Boys are back in town.

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Speaker 3: Love it.

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Speaker 4: We'll see tomorrow to unpack it all on the Weekend

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Speaker 4: Sport the Sunday edition. Enjoy the rest of your Saturday.

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Speaker 4: See them right a town?

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Speaker 3: You job have you und people.

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Speaker 1: Side More from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live

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