1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: With the Heads Podcast Network. 2 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Slow It Down. I am your host, 3 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: PJ Harding, and every week I am on a mission 4 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: to see kat how we can find peace and the chaos, 5 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: what rituals can we do to stay sane? And what 6 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 2: does it truly mean to be successful and human? 7 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: This week, I'm joined. 8 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: By Carrie rad who made the massive decision years ago 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: to pack up her and her husband's life and move 10 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 2: from the hustle and bustle of Ala to rural white. 11 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: It Upper here in New Zealand. 12 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: We talk about why, why did they choose to make 13 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: the massive transition, how has it been starting a family 14 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,319 Speaker 2: away from your major support network, why you always need 15 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: to live within fifteen minutes of a mile to ten 16 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: and we take a look at the beautiful life that she, 17 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: her husband and baby daughter are creating here in New Zealand. 18 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: I really loved setting down with Kerrie and having a chat. 19 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: There was a lot that we actually shared in common. 20 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 2: So I hope you get something out of the episode enjoy. 21 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 2: So let's go back to your old life very much 22 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: you living in LA. Can you tell us what your 23 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 2: life was like? What were you doing, what was your 24 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 2: day in day out, she do. 25 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 3: So living in La. 26 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 4: I look back, and it's really funny the timing of 27 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 4: this podcast, because my husband and I have been having 28 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 4: conversations so much recently about our past life versus our 29 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 4: current life, and we made big decisions four years ago 30 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 4: to move to New Zealand, and it just rearranged her 31 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 4: entire lives. Pretty much pressed the reset button on life 32 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 4: living in LA. When I look back, When we look back, 33 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 4: all we remember is constantly working, if I'm honest, and 34 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 4: when we had time off, we would go to Sierra 35 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 4: Nevada or just find nature as much as possible. But 36 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 4: the heartbeat of LA is so incredibly fast that if 37 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 4: you're not going at that speed, you just feel like 38 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 4: you're not keeping up. 39 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 2: I've heard a lot of people get deprest in LA. 40 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: Is that right? Is that because they're not matching like. 41 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 2: The feeling that constant sure of carving out. 42 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 4: I have to be mindful of not just like bashing, 43 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 4: because I do love LA. When I go back, I'm like, ah, yeah, 44 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 4: like back in, like feeling the culture of it. But 45 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 4: to live there again would be really hard for us, 46 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 4: just based off of over the last four years, getting 47 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 4: really much more comfortable with the work life balance in 48 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 4: the culture here because I feel like Kiwi's have work 49 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 4: life balance. 50 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: Do you think so? 51 00:02:59,200 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 3: I do? 52 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: So what were you doing in la YouTube? 53 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 4: I've been doing YouTube since twenty fourteen, so like over 54 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 4: a decade now. I started my YouTube channel January seventh 55 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 4: of twenty and fourteen. I was working in banking at 56 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 4: the time. Yeah, and I always loved photography, videography. I 57 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 4: always loved being on camera. I did acting and stuff 58 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,119 Speaker 4: as well, and so I just aligned all the things 59 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 4: that I loved to do, and I was just posting 60 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 4: videos all the Internet as a hobby. 61 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: And this was when it wasn't cool cool, where it 62 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 3: was like weird. 63 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 4: That you're like, They're like, you're doing what? So I 64 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 4: told no one. Nobody knew, not even my mom, that 65 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 4: I was posting videos on the internet. And my first 66 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 4: video ever was what I got at the market. I 67 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 4: was like showing food because I used to do that 68 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 4: like on FaceTime with my mom and we would talk 69 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 4: about that, and so I just I just did like 70 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 4: a hall and I was just posting like look books 71 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 4: and stuff like that, and it just grew. And I 72 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 4: think that a big part of it is because I 73 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,839 Speaker 4: started before it was so saturated, and so I think 74 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 4: people were like discovering YouTube. And I also had other 75 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 4: YouTubers that were like bigger creators shouted me out and 76 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 4: stuff because they found my content and it really just 77 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 4: like skyrocketed, and then it became my full time job 78 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 4: and it has been my full time thing. I've been 79 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 4: a content creator, yeah, for over a decade now. 80 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: And so what lead to you guys wanting to move 81 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: to the other side of the world to a little 82 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: old New Zealand. 83 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: Yeah. 84 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 3: So my husband's a dual citizen. 85 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 2: He is. 86 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 4: His father was born and raised in New Zealand, so 87 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 4: he's been coming to New Zealand. 88 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 3: Since he was a kid. 89 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 4: So we took a trip to New Zealand together in 90 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 4: I think it was twenty nineteen, two week trip, and 91 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 4: I knew in my head, like this this is we're 92 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 4: checking to see how I like New Zealand. 93 00:04:58,279 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: Did you play novel? 94 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 4: Honestly, this is the thing I always dreamt of living 95 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 4: in the countryside my whole life. I grew up in 96 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 4: suburban neighborhoods like Cement everywhere. I don't know why, but 97 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 4: lambs were always my favorite, like animals So when he 98 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 4: talked about New Zealand, I think two things aligned for me, 99 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 4: which one was that I always wanted to live abroad 100 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 4: for a certain amount of time. 101 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 3: And two I always. 102 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 4: Wanted to live in the countryside, and New Zealand is 103 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 4: the country side. 104 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 3: Obviously there's some a couple of big cities. 105 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, but like New Zealand's it's a country. 106 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 3: They're cities like villages, sure, whatever, But I just I 107 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 3: dreamt of that. 108 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 4: So when we talked about New Zealand and we were 109 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 4: driving through here, like we started looking at like where 110 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 4: we could possibly live, and I just started dreaming up 111 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 4: what life could be like here. And it's just aligned 112 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 4: for us. The values of New Zealand. Still a lot 113 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 4: about New Zealand aligned for us. And when I say that, 114 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 4: my husband and I have been talking a lot about 115 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 4: life now versus in the past, Like we're so grateful 116 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 4: right now to our past selves for going through the 117 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 4: last four years, because I will tell you it hasn't 118 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 4: been easy moving countries, starting family in another country. But lately, 119 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 4: like we reached the point where we just looked at 120 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 4: each other and we were like wow. 121 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 2: Because yeah, like I imagine that lape of face would 122 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: have had to be hu. Yeah, and did you do 123 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: a missive pros and cons list? I can imagine there 124 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: were so many things fallowing you back. 125 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: Yes, this is ridiculous. 126 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 3: To be honest with you, I didn't. 127 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 4: I think the only reason why it worked is because 128 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 4: I just said. 129 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 3: Okay, here we go. Fine. 130 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 4: If I would have made a pro and con list, 131 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 4: I would have logistics scuried myself out of it. 132 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: Yeahah, the logistics enough. 133 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: For Like, so you didn't know how you were going 134 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: to do things, you literally just had to. 135 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 3: You went for it. And right before we left, my 136 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 3: husband looked at me and he was like, are we. 137 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: Sure one of us needs to be serious? 138 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 4: And stuff is on a container, like we're going We've 139 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 4: gone this far and yeah, it's been a wild ride 140 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 4: and there has been yeah, as I said, moments of doubt. 141 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 4: But we are here now and we when we look 142 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 4: back and in this chapter, with our daughter and everything, 143 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 4: we have never been more grateful and honestly more sure 144 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 4: of this journey. 145 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 2: When you were moving to New Zealand, had you already 146 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 2: locked in your property or did that kind of wow 147 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 2: so you got here, were renting at the beginning or 148 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: staying with family or. 149 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, staying with family. We got here. 150 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 4: Alex's family here again, his father was born and raised 151 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 4: New Zealand. 152 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: So is that why you came here? 153 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 3: No? 154 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: No, why here? 155 00:07:55,920 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 3: Everyone asked me that. Who lives in the wa Anapa? 156 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 3: Everyone's like why. 157 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 4: Honestly, I think if you aren't born and raised in 158 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 4: Masterton in the White Dappa. 159 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 3: You have a different perspective of it. 160 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,679 Speaker 4: But if you were born and raised here, you're probably 161 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 4: the first person that's gonna ask me why. 162 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: I love it. 163 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: I wasn't born in race here and I love that. 164 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 2: I've fallen in love with it and its hard. 165 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing. 166 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 4: I think when you come in with a fresh perspective, 167 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 4: you realize how much it really has to offer. And 168 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 4: I feel like people who were born and raised here, 169 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 4: I'm like the advocate. 170 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 3: They're like that's so nice, and I'm like, I'm serious. 171 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 4: We looked all over New Zealand, North Island, South Island. 172 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 4: We got a caravan at one point because we were 173 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 4: done staying with family. 174 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 3: We were like, okay, we got to go look, we 175 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 3: gotta go look at where we want to live. 176 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 4: And because we have flexible careers in terms of like 177 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 4: we're remote. We could go where is that? And so 178 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 4: we looked North Island, we looked South. We thought South 179 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 4: Island is stunning, but we want to be a little 180 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 4: bit more like closer to like international airports. My husband 181 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 4: travels a lot for work. We go back to the 182 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 4: States a lot, and we put offers in on houses 183 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 4: in Hawks Bay. We didn't get them. There was a 184 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 4: lot of time where we kept trying and we were 185 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 4: getting declined, and it felt like the universe was telling 186 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 4: us you should go back. And so we did have 187 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 4: a moment where we were like, maybe this is just 188 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 4: not what we should be doing. Nothing's working. Usually when 189 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 4: you're doing something that's supposed to align, everything will fall 190 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 4: out to place. This is not falling into place for 191 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 4: the first year. 192 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: Wow, so you were still looking for you. 193 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 4: We were looking for We ended up moving into our 194 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 4: house here in September, and we got here in January, 195 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 4: so nine months we were like, Okay, we're not just 196 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 4: going to keep like renting airbnbs. 197 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 3: So we got a caravan when we got. 198 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 4: Here and we just explored and the whited upp Uh 199 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 4: came to mind. Actually, we drove through the White Dapa 200 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 4: at one point and we were like, this is beautiful. 201 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 4: We ended up making friends with do you know Alex 202 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 4: from Little Farms is Yeah, And so she gave me 203 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 4: a tour of you know, and she just pulled out 204 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 4: my growing vegetable heart strings and I was like, she's great. 205 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 4: And then, to be honest, we found our house and 206 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 4: so a lot of people are like, why'd you pick Masterton. 207 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 3: We're like, we picked that house. 208 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 4: But we also loved that Masterton was fifteen minutes from us. 209 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 4: So we're living rural, but we're able to come and 210 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 4: pop into town and do literally whatever we need to do. 211 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 4: And one thing that Alex's dad, when we were looking 212 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 4: for a house, kept saying, make sure you're fifteen minutes 213 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 4: from minter ten because we were looking for a fixer upper. 214 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, especially. 215 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 3: If you're fixing up a house, like you go to 216 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 3: miner tent, you go back to the house and. 217 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: You're like, oh my god, I forgot this. 218 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we were. 219 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 4: Trying to do we have done quite a bit of 220 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 4: it on our own. We would get things and maybe 221 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 4: like this isn't it. Thank goodness, we lived fifty minutes. 222 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 2: Good advice fable because I've lived in a big city 223 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 2: I've lived in Melbourne and then I'm a master, and 224 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: people always like, how do you make that shift? Like 225 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 2: is it not the biggest transition? How did you find 226 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 2: that initially going from such a busy paced life to 227 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: WHOA yeah. 228 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 3: I think we were ready for it. 229 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 4: I think that we did our time in LA. We 230 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 4: were both content creators separately. He had his own YouTube channel, 231 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 4: I had mine. We didn't know each other's channels when 232 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 4: we met, and we were both just living in LA 233 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 4: doing the networking thing, going to the events, and we 234 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 4: both just wanted to slow down and it was just 235 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 4: perfect timing and we both wanted the same thing, And 236 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 4: I think that's what made it possible and enjoyable to do, 237 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 4: even at the moments where we questioned everything, Because we 238 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 4: both wanted the same. 239 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 3: Result, we were able to push. 240 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 4: Through any of the storms or the hard times that 241 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 4: came up in it. And now we have the foundation. 242 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 4: I think over the last four years, we didn't have 243 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 4: the foundation because we didn't have like our community, we 244 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 4: didn't have our house, we didn't have our daughter, and 245 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 4: when we got here, we were in the process of 246 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 4: trying for her and we had loss, and we didn't 247 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 4: have family here. So it was quite the journey to 248 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 4: being where we are now. And so, like I said, 249 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 4: we're just looking back now and we're like, wow, now 250 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 4: we have the foundation. 251 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: So many people would pack it in. Oh, especially in 252 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 2: starting a new family. You need that village, You need 253 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 2: that support, Like how did you get through those storms 254 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 2: that you had to do with this? 255 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we got really lucky that where we moved, 256 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 4: we one have really great neighbors down the road and 257 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 4: they just took us in. 258 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 3: This is like the Kiwi It's the Kiwi. 259 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 2: Way, the everggest thing I've found since moving where really 260 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 2: you will get looked after buy your community, you have 261 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 2: to yea. 262 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 4: The thing is is like if you have one neighbor 263 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 4: down the road, like you're gonna be friends with that neighbor. 264 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 265 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 4: But I think it's really interesting because I feel like 266 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,359 Speaker 4: if you moved to the middle of the countryside in America, 267 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 4: it wouldn't be the same experience. It could be different, 268 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 4: but which I see, and it's really it was we 269 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 4: were prepared to feel isolated. We told ourselves, Okay, we're 270 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 4: moving to the countryside. Let's we're gonna be isolated. But honestly, 271 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 4: I feel less isolated living in the countryside than I 272 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 4: did living in la with people all around me. 273 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: I hear you. I understand it. I know exactly what 274 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: you've mean. 275 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 2: I never knew my neighbors in the city never, and 276 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 2: everyone is in their own little bubble on their own mission. 277 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. 278 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 4: It's very interesting, no matter whether you live in the 279 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 4: hustle and bustle of the city or even if you 280 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 4: move it. You live in a big city and you 281 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 4: move to suburban neighborhoods. 282 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 3: That's what we did. 283 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 4: It was the exact same thing. Once Alex and I met, 284 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 4: we moved like more inland to a proper neighborhood, and 285 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 4: it was exactly the same. I never once saw the 286 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 4: inside of one of my neighbor's houses. I never had 287 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 4: a cup up with them or anything like that. And 288 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 4: I maybe met one on the road one time because 289 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 4: I gave him some squash that we were growing in 290 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 4: the backyard. But other than that, we didn't know. 291 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: It's sad. 292 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: It's so sad. 293 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 2: It didn't used to be like that, I don't think. 294 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: But that's so cool to hear that you have found 295 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: your village. 296 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, and of course I'm still finding right like I'm 297 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 4: so much more open now to making new friendships than 298 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 4: I was living in the city, because, like I said, 299 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 4: when the heartbeat is so fast, you're just trying to 300 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 4: keep up. When I look back to my time in LA, 301 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 4: I was just thinking about what else I could add 302 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 4: to my plate, what else should I do? And I'm 303 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 4: not saying that I don't have inspiration now, because I 304 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 4: do think about things and I'm like, oh, that'd be 305 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 4: so coold to do that, or yes, but I'm way 306 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 4: more mindful of about how, when, what, and what my 307 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 4: life would look like, not only because I'm in a 308 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 4: different place and I've learned work life balance to the 309 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 4: best that I can the best my ability. There are 310 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 4: times where I'm like, how can we do this all? 311 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 4: But much better than when I was just working constantly, and. 312 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 3: Now having my daughter. 313 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 4: I feel like I don't want to add more things 314 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 4: because I don't want to feel like being with her 315 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 4: as a burden, Like I'm like, oh, I have so 316 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 4: much to do, like I got to watch her, you. 317 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 3: Know, da da, I've got things, and it's like, no, 318 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 3: I want do you know what I mean? 319 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 2: Like that absolutely mean yeah, And I think it's really 320 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 2: tough though at the moment, because it's really hard for 321 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 2: households to live on one income and people are being 322 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: forced into having to do everything, which is so stressful. 323 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 4: Yes, and that is one thing that we are also 324 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 4: trying to navigate. We're both working from home to and 325 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 4: me working I didn't take maternity leave or anything like that. Obviously, 326 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 4: I feel really grateful that I can work from home, 327 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 4: but also that can be really hard to to navigate 328 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 4: when you can work and when you can't, and especially 329 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 4: if you're like doing audio stuff or like videography, and 330 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 4: so it's navigating all of that. But I know what 331 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 4: you mean, and I honestly I think back now that 332 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 4: I'm a new mom, I look at situation in the 333 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 4: States in particular, and the fact that we don't. 334 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 3: Offer maternity leave. 335 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's wild, and that has really opened my eyes 336 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 4: to new American moms where I'm like, I was just 337 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 4: talking to. 338 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: My work after six weeks is there? 339 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 4: Right? It depends on your job. Yeah, so mattorney leave 340 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 4: is up to your job. It's not required by the government. 341 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 4: So some jobs will be like. 342 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 3: Two weeks, six weeks. 343 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 4: Some jobs who are like doing the right thing will 344 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 4: do three months. Some will offer four, but that is 345 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 4: like a good maternity leave in America's three months, and so. 346 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 3: Like type of situation. 347 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 4: I'm like, I have so much love in my heart 348 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 4: and just I don't know, that's hard. That is really 349 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:35,959 Speaker 4: hard to not be able to take time off at 350 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 4: all and depend on your employer who make your employer 351 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 4: may not have the. 352 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 2: Means, They're not necessarily the bag exactly. 353 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: But I was still like, like, you know, it's. 354 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 3: Not three months. That's all I was thinking about, was like, how, 355 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 3: how how it's hard? It's hard. 356 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: It's just I. 357 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 2: Follow you on Instagram and it just looks like such 358 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 2: an idyllic little lifestyle that you're creating. 359 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: And I'm aware that we do post the. 360 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 2: Highlights of our lives on there, but day in day out, 361 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 2: how does your life look like a leats took through 362 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 2: your schedule? 363 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 3: Right now? 364 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 4: It's so different from before I had Yeah, because I 365 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 4: was just talking to a friend recently where I was like, 366 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 4: what did I used to do? 367 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 2: I know? 368 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 3: Did I know I had that much? 369 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: You know, I wish I did this this. 370 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 4: I'd like to go back to her and say can 371 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 4: you please go do that and that and that? 372 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 3: But now a. 373 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 4: Lot of it is looking after our seven month old daughter, Eliana, 374 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 4: but it's a lot of it's a juggle. It's a 375 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 4: I'm filming a YouTube video this afternoon. Can you take her? 376 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 4: And my husband and I will like juggle. It's different 377 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 4: every day. I right now because Ellianna is waking up 378 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 4: quite a bit in the evening and wants mommy's booby. Ye, 379 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 4: I will be the one to be doing that through 380 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 4: the evening. And then so in the morning, my husband 381 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 4: takes her and he he puts her in her plate 382 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 4: pen and things out with her, plays a little guitar 383 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 4: for her for a couple of hours while I have 384 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 4: a sleep in yep, which is lovely. 385 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 3: And then when I. 386 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 4: Wake up, she's getting pretty ready for a nap. So 387 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 4: then I'm just telling you my new mom schedule is 388 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 4: that interesting at all? 389 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 2: Well, I just want to like, I loved you really 390 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 2: do like knowing people throught because you only see a 391 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 2: sliver a fraction online, right, totally, Yeah, And it's you 392 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 2: see these idyllic moments, but your mom, you know, trying 393 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 2: to do your ad and sight. 394 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 4: So it's just trying to balance creating content, working with 395 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 4: different brands and stuff in a way that is practical 396 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 4: for both of us because we're both working from home 397 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 4: and figuring out nap schedules. 398 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 3: How does that happen? And it's different every day. 399 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 4: Sometimes it's thirty minutes, sometimes it's two hours, and just 400 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 4: really maximizing the snap time is not my fan. 401 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: How do you find This is a big question that 402 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 2: I ask on the podcast Pace and the Chaos, and 403 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,719 Speaker 2: they're rituals you do to stay sane. Are there simple 404 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 2: things that you do to bring you back to being human? 405 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 4: Going outside immediately? If I feel, I'm a homebody. So 406 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 4: I think that's also why this type of lifestyle has 407 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 4: worked for me, because I as much as I am 408 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 4: an extrovert, I'm also a homebody. So I love being 409 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 4: at home. I love creating a space. I love creating 410 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 4: a peaceful space, and honestly, resetting the house brings me joy. 411 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 4: I'm a Virgo, we love organization. 412 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: My son's a virgo on the cusp of layover. 413 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 3: Okay, that's a good miss. 414 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't really seen the organized side yet coming up. 415 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, it might come later. 416 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 4: I just love, yeah, the peace at home, so I 417 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 4: try to create that as much as like can. Sometimes 418 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 4: that's not. That's when I go outside when I'm like, 419 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 4: when I don't have time to reset this, it's not 420 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 4: useful right now because here's toys everywhere, whatever it might be, 421 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 4: you know, it's not clean. 422 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: Hard part. 423 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 2: That's one of our parts of bay Mom is especially 424 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 2: if you are attached to that esthetic or that feeling, yeah, 425 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 2: of zoom and cleanliness, it's really hard to ojave sometimes. 426 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, And sometimes you just look around and you're like, 427 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 4: I can't get there right now, Like I don't even 428 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 4: have the energy you reset this space. That was my 429 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 4: thing before I had any kids. I was like, Oh, 430 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 4: I just love resetting the space, and I still do 431 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 4: when I can. 432 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: Does that manual one of those people that always change 433 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: the realm when you're a code. 434 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I was calm ranging everything. 435 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: And now I do the same as well, and I 436 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: get the biggest. 437 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,239 Speaker 4: I'm always reranging and thinking about hot I'm gonna move 438 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 4: back all the time. 439 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 3: Oh all the time. 440 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 4: But when I feel that I don't have the energy 441 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 4: for that, then I just walk outside and maybe I'll 442 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 4: make a cup of tea or whatever. But just being outside, 443 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 4: and that's one of the main reasons why I really 444 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 4: wanted to live in the country because I well, first 445 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 4: of all, New Zealand the access to nature is just unbeatable. 446 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 4: So just kind of wherever you are, you feel like 447 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 4: you're amongst trees and water, and that's one of the 448 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 4: things I love about being here. But living in the 449 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 4: countryside is like another element of it, where you can 450 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 4: just walk outside and feel like you are amongst peace. 451 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 2: I gotta be honest, because I moved to the middle 452 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 2: of nightwea after being in the city, and I definitely 453 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 2: felt that at the beginning. But I feel like sometimes 454 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: life can still get on top of you, and the 455 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 2: voices in your head can get really loud and you're 456 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 2: focused on what he was going on with work or whatever, 457 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 2: all of this other cheddar and I'm like, I'm literally 458 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 2: living in paradise, but. 459 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: I'm still feeling stressed out. 460 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 2: Although I will say if I go for a book 461 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 2: bushwalk twenty thirty minutes, I'm like, heels, yeah, totally. 462 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,479 Speaker 4: The way that nature can heal you is incredible, just 463 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,719 Speaker 4: like for any fresh here, even for La months old, 464 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 4: when she's upset, I walk outside and then she's fine, yeah, 465 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 4: and I'm like there's something to that. 466 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it starts we are supposed to be out there. 467 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 3: That's what we that's where we came from. 468 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 2: We've got knocked out of these natural rhythms of going, 469 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 2: just like when when the sun goes down, we're. 470 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 3: So detached from it. 471 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 4: And so of course it's gonna bring us peace, even 472 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 4: just walking outside and going. And yeah, I might not 473 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 4: cure everything. We're still gonna have thoughts, but it is 474 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 4: gonna make you a little bit better. Walking barefoot in 475 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 4: the grass is gonna make you feel a million times 476 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 4: better too. So like I'll just put on some slippers 477 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 4: and take them off and then just walk barefoot in 478 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 4: the grass, and I just feel a million times better. 479 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 3: And it's not gonna cure everything. When I get back inside, 480 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 3: I might. 481 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,719 Speaker 4: Have the anxiety to creep up again, or it's not 482 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 4: that all the thoughts go away or whatever, but it does, honestly, 483 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 4: scientifically proven, the walking on the grass barefoot makes a difference. 484 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 4: So I think it's worth trying, even if it's it 485 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 4: doesn't cure everything. 486 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 2: I love how you just the five things, and it 487 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 2: feels like you really appreciate the small daily things that 488 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 2: we all take for granted. Now, like we're talking about 489 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 2: your caputet or coffee, or like when you go and 490 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: get your vegetables out the garden. There is such an 491 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 2: act of joy that we overlook. 492 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 3: It's so simple. Yeah, that's the simplest thing. 493 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 4: And I think that is the best thing in life 494 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 4: to pay attention to. And I think that when I'm 495 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 4: feeling sad or if I'm going through a hard time, 496 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 4: it's always a simple thing to bring me back, whether 497 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 4: it be like a talk with my best friend. That's 498 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 4: not nature, but that's a simple thing. And I think 499 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 4: that's what life is. 500 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 3: And I think we. 501 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 4: Lose that living in the big city and the hustle 502 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 4: and muscle and that we're all trying. We're so I 503 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 4: want to self absorbed and self focused. 504 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I know, and I often think too 505 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 2: much about people think about me. 506 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: And then you have the realization that no one's actually 507 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: thinking about you. 508 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 4: I'm good like that too, Like totally you're thinking about yourself. 509 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 4: I've had to tell myself that a million times, Like 510 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 4: nobody cares. 511 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: It's quite how bliss it is. 512 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 3: It is. 513 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 4: Nobody's thinking about you that much as much as you 514 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 4: are thinking, you know, And especially when when we were 515 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 4: in our hard part of our futility journey. 516 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 3: It was like I it was I. 517 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 4: Had so much like shame in it, and I was like, 518 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,479 Speaker 4: nobody's thinking about this as much as you are, Like I, 519 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 4: that's my situation, and there's there's been so many different 520 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 4: elements in my life. That's just an example of things 521 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 4: where I'm like struggling with anxiety around something, thinking that 522 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 4: people care, and then me having to. 523 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 3: Be like nobody cares. Nobody cares. 524 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 4: Actually people care about you and they want you to 525 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 4: be happy. They don't care about all the things that 526 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 4: you think they care about. 527 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: And I don't think this is a care. 528 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: It's like it's see it the things we worried about 529 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 2: never coming to rawuse. 530 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 3: Everyone's thinking about themselves. If you're thinking about. 531 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: Yourself, stop thinking about yourself. The least is blocked up. 532 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: But I don't. 533 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 2: I wonder what society was like back in the olden days, 534 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 2: Like I feel like we have definitely become a lot 535 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 2: more self. 536 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 4: Absorbed, definitely, I think with social media, and I'm saying 537 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 4: that as a content creator, Yeah, my job is all 538 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 4: about what I'm wearying, what I'm doing, what I'm doing today, dad, 539 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 4: And I'm fully aware of that. 540 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 2: Even if you're not a content creator. If you run 541 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 2: a business, you have to have some presence online and 542 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 2: you have to prove your worth all the time. 543 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 3: But also if you're not a content creator and you 544 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 3: have social media. 545 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly this day and age, we're all posting online, 546 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 4: whether you're monetized or not, whether you've created a business 547 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 4: or not. Everyone's posting about their life and their highlights, 548 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 4: and not just content creators are guilty of doing that. 549 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 3: Everyone's sharing that. 550 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 2: But if you like from the game, then you Yeah, 551 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 2: you can't. 552 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: Participate in society really, which is quite hard. And I 553 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: think you've just. 554 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: Got to find that healthy balance being on and off. 555 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 2: And I've got back into a bed. 556 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 4: I have come to the realization about the word balance. 557 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: Yes, it doesn't exist. 558 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 3: It doesn't exist. 559 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 4: I know everyone's like find balance, They're like, no, sometimes 560 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 4: I'm going to be way more work. Sometimes I'm going 561 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 4: to be way more family sometimes and be way more friends. 562 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 3: Sometimes I'm going to be you. 563 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 4: Know, it's just the season, not necessarily sas not necessarily 564 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 4: a pendulum, but there's going to be moments, whether it's 565 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 4: moment by moment, week by week, day by day where 566 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 4: you swing a little bit more in one direction in 567 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 4: the next one day, I am fully doing mom stuff 568 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 4: all day long, and then the next day I'm like, Okay, 569 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 4: I am batching all of this work stuff this day, 570 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 4: and my husband's helping more, and so it's. 571 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 3: It's just all ever changing. 572 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: Then act she made me feel so much better. 573 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: Thank you for like validating because I feel like sometimes 574 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 2: you just like I'm failing, whether it is work, whether 575 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 2: it's home life, being a good partner, whether it's being 576 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 2: a good mom or. 577 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: Looking after the house, like keeping your top of stuff. 578 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, and you're just and you feel like 579 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 2: you're failing. 580 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 1: But you're right. 581 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 2: I really love that perspective that it's just it's actually 582 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 2: impossible to have a balance. It doesn't exist, and so 583 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 2: sometimes you just got to be heavy in one area. Yeah, 584 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 2: And it is a pendulum, and like life as a 585 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 2: whole is like that, and you're just going to go 586 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 2: through seasons where you do feel really freaking busy. Yeah, 587 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 2: sometimes you will film mos in sometimes you'll feel excited 588 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 2: and ambitious, and it's just what it's allot. 589 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 3: It's ever changing. 590 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 4: And that's something that I'm realizing that I've had to 591 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 4: tell myself. I'm telling you the things that I tell 592 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 4: myself where I'm like, I'm you know, feeling to you 593 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 4: at this or that or whatever it might be, and 594 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 4: I just tell myself these things. 595 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 2: Oh, this is what I was also going to bring 596 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 2: up for you. Since moving to the country, have you 597 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 2: found I don't know. I feel like I appreciate seasons 598 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 2: so much more, Like observing winter, summer and all that stuff. 599 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 2: It really does reiterate the team pre nature of everything, definitely. 600 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 4: And I'd say one thing that's strange for me is 601 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 4: that seasons are opposite from where I'm from. So that's 602 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 4: been a huge adjustment because this time of year, I'm 603 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 4: like real cold, you know what I mean, I'm ready 604 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 4: to like snuggle up for Christmas. But I'm from La, 605 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 4: as we know, and in LA, we don't have seasons, 606 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 4: you know, Like I can say that I would get 607 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 4: ready to snuggle up for autumn Christmas, but like it's 608 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 4: always stunny in LA, which I feel like we took 609 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 4: for granted because it was always stunny, so it was like, Okay, 610 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 4: it's just another sunny day. But here we have so 611 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 4: much appreciation for a beautiful day, and the beautiful days 612 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 4: here are like stunning. 613 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 3: They're stunning. 614 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 2: I feel like such a loser, like I've got really all. 615 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 2: But like I just noticed when I moved to the country, 616 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 2: I was like, whoa, those lives on the trees so pretty. 617 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 3: In autumn, the crystals. 618 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 2: Happens when you get out of the city. You just 619 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 2: start appreciating things a little differently. 620 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 3: I think it's possible. 621 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you define success? 622 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 3: Happiness? 623 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 4: Honestly, so much now more than ever, being. 624 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 3: Able to live a life where you have. 625 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 4: The ability to be with your family. Obviously my I 626 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 4: have family in the States and stuff, but I'm talking 627 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 4: about like my husband and Eleana, just being able to 628 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 4: have time to be with them. Because success, to me, 629 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 4: it's too easy to feel like financial is success. You know, 630 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 4: the more money you make, the more successful you are. 631 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 4: But really success is defined as freedom in my opinion, 632 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 4: and I know my first instinct to respond was happiness, 633 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 4: which can be quite cliche, but I do think that 634 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 4: freedom is happiness because when you have the freedom to 635 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 4: decide honestly what your day can look like. 636 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 3: Too. 637 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 4: As an entrepreneur, I'm able to do that in some 638 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 4: aspects of my life, and to me, moving to New 639 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 4: Zealand didn't make us more financially successful. If anything, it 640 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 4: took us down a different path where we had to 641 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 4: sort things out a little bit more. And I feel 642 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 4: more successful because I have more freedom, and I have 643 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 4: the ability now to have moments to myself and to 644 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 4: my family, and to be there with my daughter and 645 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:54,719 Speaker 4: to not feel like I need to be something because 646 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 4: everybody else around me is something. 647 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: You're writing the script. 648 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 3: I'm writing the script. 649 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 4: And the fact that I can align my life to freedom, 650 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 4: to being able to have some freedom, that's success to me. 651 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: Good answer, I'm just a good answer. 652 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 2: No. I think freedom is everything, isn't it The freedom 653 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 2: to choose what you want to do? 654 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I know that can be that's a privilege 655 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 3: in itself. 656 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not saying that that is that I don't 657 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 4: have gratitude. 658 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 3: Every single day for that to be able to do 659 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 3: honestly what I love. 660 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 4: I love what I do, and I honestly my husband 661 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 4: and I say out out every single day that we're 662 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 4: so grateful for like how we've arranged life right now 663 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 4: does not mean it's always easy, but just being grateful 664 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 4: for all of those moments though, even like when you're 665 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 4: just trying to navigate it. It's a journey. I tell 666 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 4: my husband all the time. I'm like, these are the 667 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 4: days we're going to look back on, even the hard stuff. 668 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 3: You know. 669 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 4: I was trying to figure out how to renovate a 670 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 4: property without ever doing it. 671 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 3: These moments where we're like what are we doing? 672 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 4: Those are the moments that we're going to look back 673 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 4: on and laugh when a're like eighty sitting in a chair. 674 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 3: Like you remember, moved in the Zeeland. 675 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 4: We bought a picture upper and we were like, had 676 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 4: no idea what we were doing, and we like. 677 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 3: Flooded the laundry because we were trying, you. 678 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 4: Know what I mean. These things that we are like 679 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 4: about in the moment, we're gonna look back one day 680 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 4: and be like that was so funny, Like those were 681 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 4: the needs of our lives. 682 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 2: And also I think that having those times of struggle 683 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 2: just makes when you do get into their easier patch 684 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 2: so much more sweet as well. 685 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: And you're like, oh, it was all with it. 686 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 3: It's not easy. 687 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: It wouldn't be worth it. What's the quote anything good? 688 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 3: It's hard? 689 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? 690 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 3: Like that, Like I think it's like, you know, nothing worth, 691 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 3: everything worth, you know what I mean? 692 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 2: Hard work I know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay's 693 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 2: true though, one hundred percent. And I feel like, more 694 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 2: and more you get through life, you realize that. I 695 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 2: feel like you get a bit of an easy ride 696 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 2: when you're younger, and then you're like, okay, cool. 697 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: Listen to listen. 698 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, less and alfter lesson, okay, one more thing. If 699 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 2: you want to talk to you eighteen year old self, 700 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 2: and you'd be like, hey, I'll go some advice for you, 701 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 2: what would it be. 702 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 4: I would say, you're doing great, it's all right. 703 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 3: Keep going. 704 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 4: You will end up doing what your heart desires. It's 705 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 4: going to take some time to get there. You're gonna 706 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 4: have some twist and turns along the way, but eventually 707 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,919 Speaker 4: you'll get to a point where you are good with 708 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 4: your situation. Because there were so many times where I 709 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 4: was just thinking that I had no idea what I 710 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 4: was going to do with my life, what I wanted 711 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 4: to do. I would change things all the time. I 712 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 4: would think, yeah, And I also would say, like, get 713 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 4: out of that horrible relationship, get out. 714 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: Get out. 715 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,280 Speaker 2: As soon as you see the right fun I'll run. 716 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 3: Instead of waiting till you're twenty one. 717 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 4: Now, that would be yeah, that everything's going to be 718 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,959 Speaker 4: okay and to get out of that horrible relationship. 719 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 2: Well on that poignant note, Carrie, it has been an 720 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 2: honor to actually sit down and chat with. 721 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 1: You, my fellow wided up a friend. No, I love 722 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: watching you from afar. 723 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 2: I think it's so beautiful and it's so brave what 724 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 2: you've chosen to do, and I just think that life 725 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 2: is so exciting and I can't wait to see what 726 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 2: unfolds over the next few years. 727 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 3: Thank you, it's so nice to meet you in person too. 728 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 3: This is lovely. Thanks for having me. 729 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: But that was my chat with Carrie and luck. 730 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 2: We did get a little carried away about all of 731 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 2: the perks of living here in the wided Up, but 732 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 2: I promise it was not like a tourism campaign so 733 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 2: apologics for sunny a bit like that, but like, it 734 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 2: was just so nice to meet someone else who had 735 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 2: also packed up a really busy lifestyle in the hustle 736 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 2: and bustle of a big city and taken a massive 737 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 2: leap of faith. I'm not saying that you need to 738 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 2: do this, but I think they have obviously had their 739 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 2: challenges through the last four years. Talking to Carrie, it 740 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 2: was so clear she has no regrets because she was 741 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 2: so ready for that move, you know when it came along. 742 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 2: And this did not mean to be like a city 743 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 2: bashing episode. I love visiting and staying in the cities, 744 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 2: but it was so nice to share our experiences of 745 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 2: the perks of actually living in smaller communities. And I 746 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 2: loved the chat on balance towards the end and shifting 747 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 2: that perspective of trying to do it all at once 748 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 2: and actually just leaning into thriving in one kind of 749 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 2: area at one point and then into another area at 750 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 2: another time, and not having to actually achieve it all 751 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 2: in one because that's just some possible and society has 752 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 2: just absolutely screwed us this. 753 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: So I love chatting with her. 754 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 2: If you love the app and what more of Carrie, 755 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 2: you can follow along with her life on Instagram and YouTube, 756 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 2: and actually keep an eye on my letl Instagram page 757 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 2: over the next week PJDJ because I've got an airpic 758 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 2: Slow it Down bundle to give away. 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