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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks.

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Speaker 2: They'd be okay, sixteen minutes past nine on News Talks,

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Speaker 2: he'd be ah, Jack, totally feel for you, guys. Our

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Speaker 2: youngest was like that, I'm not going to tell you

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Speaker 2: how long it took to get sordered. Stay strong. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think we might be in for the long haul here, Jack.

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Speaker 2: How many shirts have you gone through burping a little

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Speaker 2: precious bundle of joy? I was on average two a day, sismas,

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Speaker 2: Oh to a day. It's amazing. How quickly, actually, forsi

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Speaker 2: all amazing. How quickly become absolutely obsessed with your child's

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Speaker 2: bowel movements. I know that's tam I, but sorry. The

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Speaker 2: next thing is absolutely amazing. How quickly you just don't

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Speaker 2: really care about your own appearance. I'm like, ah, like

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Speaker 2: this only has like baby puke and like dried milk

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Speaker 2: stains on two sides. It should be all good. Jack

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Speaker 2: love listening to your Saturday Morning says your little boy

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Speaker 2: got a name yet?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, he does. I thought I said this maybe

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Speaker 2: Heaven Marney m a with a little macron on it

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Speaker 2: in I a Persian name. It means eternal. We wanted

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Speaker 2: because his mum's Persian, we wanted to give m a

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Speaker 2: Persian name, but a lot of Pussian names are a

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Speaker 2: bit of a mouthful, to say the least. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: money tame. Here you go seventeen minutes past nine on

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Speaker 2: new Stalk, seed be Kevin Mill. There's the weather this morning,

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Speaker 2: killed Skyer.

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Speaker 3: I've just heard the name myself, and I was because

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Speaker 3: I was going to ask you about that money.

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Speaker 2: What a gorgeous name, thanks, Kevin. Well, we know from

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Speaker 2: your editorial, so you can't. You can't come out and

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Speaker 2: slave me off, now, can you.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, No, genuinely I love the name and it

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Speaker 3: also it has a kind of slightly Mari feeling feel

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Speaker 3: about it too. Yeah, well it does.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was part of the consideration. In fact, the

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Speaker 2: so the macron over the A isn't that's not that's

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Speaker 2: not strictly Persian or in Pharisie. But his brother goes

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Speaker 2: to full immersion, and we thought, oh if we put

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Speaker 2: a if we put a too, a little macron over

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Speaker 2: the a, that will help or key weis to pronounce

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Speaker 2: his name. So it's many as opposed to many, you know.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, yeah, oh no, that's that's beautiful. I

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Speaker 3: don't know whether you know, but there's there's a Persian

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Speaker 3: sort of link in my relationship with London, is there. Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I met my wife when we were both working for

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Speaker 3: the Iranian oil company.

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Speaker 2: What you work for the Iranian oil company?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Iranian oil company in London.

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Speaker 2: Ah, goodness, man, I had no idea. But this is

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Speaker 2: presumably pre revolution, Kit.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it was just before the revolution. Was pretty much

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Speaker 3: the end of that little firm. But yeah, we used

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Speaker 3: to buy all the oil, oil equipment and drilling equipment,

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Speaker 3: all that stuff through for the Iranian oil fields.

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Speaker 2: Interesting. Did you ever get to go and visit?

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Speaker 3: No, No, sadly not. I've missed the damn good opportunity

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Speaker 3: I could have gone, then, I suppose. Yeah, it's always

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Speaker 3: getting a beautiful rug.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, well I mean here, there's certainly lots

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Speaker 2: to offer in that part of the world, a though

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Speaker 2: can be tricky to travel there, obviously, But yeah, how amazing.

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Speaker 2: I did not did not appreciate that little connection, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, like anyone who has come even remotely close

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Speaker 2: to the news this week, you have been thinking a

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Speaker 2: whole lot about a certain man in a certain white

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Speaker 2: House exactly.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about Bresident Donald Trump like everybody else has

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Speaker 3: been this week, I thought, in particular, I talked about

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Speaker 3: how popular he is in New Zealand, how many New

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Speaker 3: Zealanders would have voted for him if they had been

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Speaker 3: able to vote in the last US elections, how many

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Speaker 3: would have voted for Trump Kiwis. I thought it might

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Speaker 3: be impossible to get information on this, but actually no.

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Speaker 3: I checked online and several reputable posters have asked New

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Speaker 3: Zealanders it very questioned, and it seems their answers have

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Speaker 3: come out very simpler, very similar. It had seemed, according

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Speaker 3: to the posters that the last US elections, nearly a

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Speaker 3: quarter of New Zealanders said that they would have voted

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Speaker 3: for Trump twenty three percent. This surprised me, at least

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Speaker 3: at first. I've never spoken to anyone anywhere who has

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Speaker 3: said to me I like Trump, or I'd have voted

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Speaker 3: for Trump. This is probably, of course, because I tend

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Speaker 3: to mix with liberal progressives. I think most people who've

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Speaker 3: heard me on radio or TV over the years would

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Speaker 3: know that I'm not a right winger. So the fact

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Speaker 3: they don't confront me with the fact that they're Trump

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Speaker 3: fans showed you just how polite right wingers can be. Jack.

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Speaker 3: In your private life, has anyone told you they are

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Speaker 3: or would be Trump supporters?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I've got I'm free. I've got friends in America,

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Speaker 2: my closest American friends. One of them is an absolute

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Speaker 2: like Trump die Hard. When I said Trump die Hard,

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Speaker 2: I mean he would have spent thousands of dollars on

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Speaker 2: Trump merch and lawn signs and T shirts and everything. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what about New Zealand?

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Speaker 2: In New Zealand, do you know I think I think

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand, people are you know, maybe people are

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Speaker 2: less kind of partisan die hard about it, but I

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Speaker 2: reckon there would be lots of people who at the

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Speaker 2: very least find him refreshing and find some parts of

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Speaker 2: his policy agenda to be you know, to be exciting,

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Speaker 2: and and they be supportive of that. I mean John

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Speaker 2: Key is a good example, right, He said that he

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Speaker 2: thought when he thought Trump should win going into the

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Speaker 2: you know, going into the last election. But you're right, you.

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Speaker 3: Read of these. It's just that I never actually come

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Speaker 3: up front, face to face with any It's an issue. Really.

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Speaker 3: We move in our own bubbles increasingly, so perhaps I mean,

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Speaker 3: if nearly a quarter of New Zealanders have a sneaking

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Speaker 3: liking for Donald Trump, where are they? I asked myselves.

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Speaker 3: I'd guess that more of these people are in my

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Speaker 3: age group than yours, but I never seem to meet them.

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Speaker 3: Either the posters have got it wrong or I'm living

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Speaker 3: two isolated a life. Having said that, I hope that,

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Speaker 3: having made disappoint I'm not going to be confronted by

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Speaker 3: Trump bites everywhere over the next few weeks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, careful what you wish for there, Kevin. I

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Speaker 2: think here's the observation i'd make. I reckon that in

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Speaker 2: the US people are much more like loud and proud

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Speaker 2: about liking Trump, whereas in New Zealand they probably don't

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Speaker 2: feel that compulsion. But in the same way they don't

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Speaker 2: feel that compulsion about supporting other international politicians. You know,

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Speaker 2: you just don't see people kind of wearing Make America

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Speaker 2: Great Again hats quite as frequently on the Carpety coast

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Speaker 2: as you might in you know, various America cities. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, though, funnily enough, Nats make it pretty clear, don't

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Speaker 3: they fairly soon in a conversation you suss out there

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Speaker 3: politics reasonably.

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Speaker 2: Quickly people say the same thing about you, Kevin.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they don't need to listen to the radio.

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Speaker 2: Is it much the thing?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the thing I always find refreshing. I thought, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I thought twenty three percent was quite a high man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is, it is. It's really interesting. Actually, I

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Speaker 2: think that'll surprise a lot of people. Thank you for that, Kevin,

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Speaker 2: ninety two, ninety two. I'm sure I'm plenty of Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump supporters or texted now and say, Jack, we're here,

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Speaker 2: we're fans. Let us know where Kevin is going to

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Speaker 2: be and we'll go and tell them that we love

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Speaker 2: Trump too. Get in touch if you'd like to. I'll

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Speaker 2: show some of your feedback very shortly.

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