1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,467 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,947 Speaker 1: from newstalk edb. 3 00:00:13,147 --> 00:00:18,547 Speaker 2: For Hamoush Kerr right handed approach and he's over at 4 00:00:18,587 --> 00:00:22,267 Speaker 2: two twenty seven and that will all but guarantee the 5 00:00:22,347 --> 00:00:25,347 Speaker 2: KIW a place in the high jump final Sunday morning. 6 00:00:25,507 --> 00:00:29,107 Speaker 2: It did, but it almost wasn't to be when Hamish 7 00:00:29,147 --> 00:00:33,267 Speaker 2: Kurb missed twice at two meters twenty. A third miss 8 00:00:33,267 --> 00:00:36,907 Speaker 2: would have seen him eliminated third and final attempt at 9 00:00:36,907 --> 00:00:41,147 Speaker 2: two meters twenty. What a disappointment it'd be if he 10 00:00:41,227 --> 00:00:45,307 Speaker 2: can't get over here, eliminated in a high jump qualifying 11 00:00:45,587 --> 00:00:48,867 Speaker 2: little smile on the face of Hamish Kerr, orange shoes, 12 00:00:48,907 --> 00:00:53,787 Speaker 2: flashing right handed approach. He's over comfortably. Why did we 13 00:00:53,867 --> 00:00:55,907 Speaker 2: have a doubt I was doubting him? I have to 14 00:00:55,907 --> 00:00:59,587 Speaker 2: say I wasn't doubting him. Osbert worried. Roger Tippooni is 15 00:00:59,587 --> 00:01:02,587 Speaker 2: one of our best ever high jumpers, eleven national titles 16 00:01:02,587 --> 00:01:05,987 Speaker 2: between nineteen eighty two and nineteen ninety four. He finished 17 00:01:06,027 --> 00:01:08,987 Speaker 2: eighth fresh out of school at the nineteen eighty two 18 00:01:09,147 --> 00:01:12,387 Speaker 2: Commonwealth Games in Brisbane and eighth again at the nineteen 19 00:01:12,507 --> 00:01:15,867 Speaker 2: ninety Commonwealth Games in Auckland. His personal best was two 20 00:01:15,907 --> 00:01:19,587 Speaker 2: meters twenty four, which he set two weeks after the 21 00:01:19,587 --> 00:01:21,787 Speaker 2: Auckland Commonwealth Games. That height would have one of my 22 00:01:21,867 --> 00:01:25,627 Speaker 2: bronze a fortnite earlier. Roger to Perone joins us, Roger, 23 00:01:25,627 --> 00:01:27,787 Speaker 2: thanks for taking the time. How confident should we be 24 00:01:27,947 --> 00:01:31,867 Speaker 2: in general terms about Hamish kurz chances of a medal 25 00:01:32,307 --> 00:01:33,427 Speaker 2: in the high jump tomorrow? 26 00:01:34,307 --> 00:01:34,467 Speaker 1: Oh? 27 00:01:34,507 --> 00:01:38,707 Speaker 3: Look, I think without Putt Navoodu on Hamish, I think 28 00:01:38,747 --> 00:01:42,547 Speaker 3: we should be pretty confident, very confident. I'm pretty confident 29 00:01:43,347 --> 00:01:45,867 Speaker 3: now he's got to out of the qualifying rounds. Qualifying 30 00:01:45,907 --> 00:01:48,747 Speaker 3: rounds for Hamish has traditionally been a bit of a 31 00:01:48,747 --> 00:01:51,347 Speaker 3: scary moment for him. Three World champs in a row, 32 00:01:51,387 --> 00:01:53,387 Speaker 3: he hadn't managed to get through the qualifying rounds. So 33 00:01:53,427 --> 00:01:57,427 Speaker 3: now he has and he can kind of relax, I guess, 34 00:01:57,787 --> 00:01:59,747 Speaker 3: but he's his ranked well up. There as a couple 35 00:01:59,747 --> 00:02:01,867 Speaker 3: of good guys who have jumped high in the past, 36 00:02:01,907 --> 00:02:05,147 Speaker 3: but I think Hamish has shown some pretty great form there, 37 00:02:05,227 --> 00:02:06,307 Speaker 3: so to take him to the final. 38 00:02:06,587 --> 00:02:09,147 Speaker 2: When you were watching qualifying, as we all were, how 39 00:02:09,227 --> 00:02:17,667 Speaker 2: worried were you when he missed twice at two twenty. 40 00:02:15,467 --> 00:02:17,707 Speaker 3: Look, I guess I've been there and done that in 41 00:02:17,787 --> 00:02:23,027 Speaker 3: service situations. Yeah, look, it's never a fun time. He 42 00:02:23,787 --> 00:02:26,107 Speaker 3: no doubt sort of collected his thoughts when I had 43 00:02:26,107 --> 00:02:30,627 Speaker 3: a chat to James Sandlin's coach and basically got as 44 00:02:30,627 --> 00:02:33,267 Speaker 3: a head together. It was never really going to be 45 00:02:33,267 --> 00:02:35,347 Speaker 3: a challenging thing for him until he was looking at 46 00:02:35,347 --> 00:02:38,587 Speaker 3: a third attempt, But he locked him. He knew that 47 00:02:38,947 --> 00:02:41,307 Speaker 3: he just needed to get a stuff together and the 48 00:02:41,387 --> 00:02:43,867 Speaker 3: depth from that final was not something that was too 49 00:02:43,907 --> 00:02:47,187 Speaker 3: scary for him. I guess a lot of guys around 50 00:02:47,227 --> 00:02:49,147 Speaker 3: him were jumping anywhere near as high as what he's 51 00:02:49,187 --> 00:02:51,387 Speaker 3: capable of. So he got it together and once he did, 52 00:02:51,427 --> 00:02:54,067 Speaker 3: he relaxed, as he did in the wild indoors as well. 53 00:02:54,107 --> 00:02:56,507 Speaker 3: Once he was in front, he got a stuff together 54 00:02:56,547 --> 00:02:58,907 Speaker 3: and he had performed and did what he needed to do. 55 00:02:59,267 --> 00:03:01,947 Speaker 2: How much pressure is there, Roger, when you're lining up 56 00:03:01,947 --> 00:03:04,787 Speaker 2: the third attempt at any height knowing that, okay, I 57 00:03:04,827 --> 00:03:08,027 Speaker 2: got to clear this all that said, how much pressure 58 00:03:08,067 --> 00:03:10,587 Speaker 2: is there? And what is the best process to combat that? 59 00:03:13,227 --> 00:03:16,627 Speaker 3: I look, I think if I look at a flashback when 60 00:03:16,707 --> 00:03:19,747 Speaker 3: when I was competing back in the Middle Ages, you 61 00:03:19,787 --> 00:03:22,227 Speaker 3: went allowed to talk to your coach. You didn't get 62 00:03:22,227 --> 00:03:24,707 Speaker 3: to see any smartphones or iPads with what you were 63 00:03:24,747 --> 00:03:28,867 Speaker 3: doing exactly wrong at the time, You couldn't refer to anything. 64 00:03:28,947 --> 00:03:32,467 Speaker 3: You just basically have to trust what you know you 65 00:03:32,507 --> 00:03:34,987 Speaker 3: can do, make sure you've got all your marks right 66 00:03:35,107 --> 00:03:37,707 Speaker 3: in terms of your take off, and just try and 67 00:03:38,107 --> 00:03:40,427 Speaker 3: stay calm but aggressive at the same time, which is 68 00:03:41,067 --> 00:03:44,227 Speaker 3: a tricky juggling act. But no, they're never a lot 69 00:03:44,227 --> 00:03:47,667 Speaker 3: of fun, but they are a few minutes to lock 70 00:03:47,747 --> 00:03:50,267 Speaker 3: in a third attempt clearance, especially when you take a 71 00:03:50,347 --> 00:03:53,907 Speaker 3: middle of somebody else with that particular jump. So yeah, 72 00:03:53,907 --> 00:03:55,187 Speaker 3: it's always a juggling act. 73 00:03:55,427 --> 00:04:00,067 Speaker 2: How much of high jumpers mental, Yeah, there's a lot. 74 00:04:00,227 --> 00:04:02,467 Speaker 3: There's a lot. There's a lot of mental stuff going on. 75 00:04:02,627 --> 00:04:04,267 Speaker 3: There's a lot of trying to psych your other guy 76 00:04:04,307 --> 00:04:07,507 Speaker 3: out as well, depending on what type of person you are. 77 00:04:07,107 --> 00:04:09,467 Speaker 3: If you're no a llles, you're going to come out 78 00:04:09,507 --> 00:04:12,267 Speaker 3: like a jumping bean and sprint ale out of the 79 00:04:12,307 --> 00:04:14,747 Speaker 3: track before you get the race, try and get everyone 80 00:04:14,747 --> 00:04:19,187 Speaker 3: else's here. Everyone has their own process. Everyone goes through 81 00:04:19,907 --> 00:04:22,427 Speaker 3: what they need to do in their own way, some 82 00:04:22,707 --> 00:04:25,227 Speaker 3: very very aggressive, some quietly just sort of think about it. 83 00:04:26,427 --> 00:04:29,467 Speaker 3: But yet there's a lot of mental stuff going on. 84 00:04:29,547 --> 00:04:31,347 Speaker 3: You just have to make sure that you think about 85 00:04:31,667 --> 00:04:34,147 Speaker 3: you know where you take offers, that you're hitting your 86 00:04:34,147 --> 00:04:37,347 Speaker 3: marks and you run up, and that you're allowing for 87 00:04:37,387 --> 00:04:39,547 Speaker 3: certain things around you, whether it be a distraction of 88 00:04:39,587 --> 00:04:42,827 Speaker 3: a middle business race and the lanes in front of you, 89 00:04:42,867 --> 00:04:45,267 Speaker 3: if you've got alonger run up, etc. You just get 90 00:04:45,307 --> 00:04:46,947 Speaker 3: to make sure that you lock everything in and do 91 00:04:46,987 --> 00:04:47,667 Speaker 3: everything you can do. 92 00:04:48,667 --> 00:04:51,147 Speaker 2: If we look at the twelve man field that Hamish 93 00:04:51,347 --> 00:04:53,707 Speaker 2: is a part of, where do your eyes land when 94 00:04:53,747 --> 00:04:55,747 Speaker 2: you look at his biggest threats for the podium? 95 00:04:57,827 --> 00:05:01,867 Speaker 3: Well, I guess when we look at who he's got 96 00:05:01,867 --> 00:05:05,067 Speaker 3: in front of him, He's got the joints Olympic champions 97 00:05:05,667 --> 00:05:10,747 Speaker 3: Tim Barry, Italy and Basheen pretty well decorated, especially Bashen. 98 00:05:12,067 --> 00:05:14,627 Speaker 3: If you look at personal beast, Barshines jumped to forty 99 00:05:14,667 --> 00:05:17,307 Speaker 3: three and probably should have had the world record before 100 00:05:17,307 --> 00:05:20,707 Speaker 3: he got some injury problems around about ten years ago. 101 00:05:20,747 --> 00:05:24,827 Speaker 3: I think Bashan jumped two forty three. Tamburry recently jumped 102 00:05:24,867 --> 00:05:29,747 Speaker 3: to thirty seven in the European Championships, but they both 103 00:05:29,787 --> 00:05:31,827 Speaker 3: have a few issues. Tamburry tends to be a little 104 00:05:31,827 --> 00:05:36,267 Speaker 3: bit of ratic, which is a good thing, and he's 105 00:05:36,307 --> 00:05:38,587 Speaker 3: actually had a few health issues. I think before he 106 00:05:38,627 --> 00:05:41,627 Speaker 3: went into the qualifying he was having a few issues 107 00:05:41,627 --> 00:05:43,747 Speaker 3: with some affections and probably I think he was still 108 00:05:43,787 --> 00:05:45,907 Speaker 3: in a hospital about two days out from the qualifying 109 00:05:47,427 --> 00:05:51,307 Speaker 3: Basheen is fragile. He had a few league issues in qualifying, 110 00:05:51,867 --> 00:05:54,147 Speaker 3: but he can still bring some pretty big heights. Those 111 00:05:54,147 --> 00:05:57,787 Speaker 3: who are a danger and the other one is Samuel 112 00:05:57,867 --> 00:06:01,507 Speaker 3: Wu from South Korea who won the World Indoors twenty 113 00:06:01,547 --> 00:06:04,547 Speaker 3: twenty two. He's capable of He's sort of personal best 114 00:06:04,547 --> 00:06:08,027 Speaker 3: of two twenty six. I'd say he would be probably 115 00:06:08,067 --> 00:06:10,987 Speaker 3: in my estimation, the biggest threat, along with maybe Bashing. 116 00:06:11,067 --> 00:06:13,987 Speaker 3: That's what I'm picking. The rest of them, they're just 117 00:06:14,027 --> 00:06:16,307 Speaker 3: happy to be there. I think seasonal best probably the 118 00:06:16,347 --> 00:06:20,187 Speaker 3: highest of the rest is around about two thirty two 119 00:06:20,307 --> 00:06:25,867 Speaker 3: thirty one type of thing, probably n killing the American guys. 120 00:06:25,867 --> 00:06:28,467 Speaker 3: The other guy that's a threat, Javoran Harrison, who I 121 00:06:28,507 --> 00:06:30,907 Speaker 3: picked is a real danger. Had some missues and went 122 00:06:30,947 --> 00:06:34,507 Speaker 3: out and qualifying. So Hamish is looking pretty good. He's 123 00:06:34,547 --> 00:06:39,147 Speaker 3: obviously top ranked and he's probably got about everyone's there 124 00:06:39,147 --> 00:06:41,347 Speaker 3: to worry about, I guess, but probably about two or 125 00:06:41,427 --> 00:06:45,387 Speaker 3: three dangers for him underneath have a clean card in 126 00:06:45,467 --> 00:06:46,267 Speaker 3: terms of attempts. 127 00:06:46,667 --> 00:06:51,107 Speaker 2: Do you reckon he's got a two forty in him. 128 00:06:51,547 --> 00:06:55,507 Speaker 3: Hamish has a two forty in them. Potentially in a 129 00:06:55,547 --> 00:06:59,387 Speaker 3: more relaxing competition, maybe look if he's if he's a 130 00:06:59,427 --> 00:07:03,147 Speaker 3: clear winner here early like he was in the world indoors, 131 00:07:04,147 --> 00:07:07,347 Speaker 3: I think two thirty one they were done and dusted 132 00:07:07,387 --> 00:07:10,147 Speaker 3: and Sohmich relax and jump. Two thirty six indoors is 133 00:07:10,187 --> 00:07:11,987 Speaker 3: a little bit different because you tend to have some 134 00:07:12,747 --> 00:07:16,027 Speaker 3: quite springy services. I think in twenty twenty two the 135 00:07:16,227 --> 00:07:19,307 Speaker 3: surface was six meters above a basketball court on scaffolding, 136 00:07:19,387 --> 00:07:21,307 Speaker 3: so he told me it was like a bit of 137 00:07:21,307 --> 00:07:26,987 Speaker 3: a mini tramp. So indoors to forty maybe there, I think, 138 00:07:27,387 --> 00:07:31,747 Speaker 3: I think a clean sheet two thirty five to thirty 139 00:07:31,827 --> 00:07:36,067 Speaker 3: six will absolutely look at him this time. Don't quite 140 00:07:36,147 --> 00:07:38,707 Speaker 3: know on that, I guess, but he's got two forty 141 00:07:38,707 --> 00:07:41,467 Speaker 3: in them, especially with the I guess, the amount of 142 00:07:41,467 --> 00:07:44,747 Speaker 3: support and the resource that you get these days around him, 143 00:07:44,747 --> 00:07:47,867 Speaker 3: there's definitely one that he has in there. He's strong enough, 144 00:07:47,907 --> 00:07:51,227 Speaker 3: he's he's competitive enough, he's got a good head on him. 145 00:07:51,227 --> 00:07:54,587 Speaker 3: Not sure if it's today. I mean seven years ago 146 00:07:55,387 --> 00:07:59,027 Speaker 3: there was seven sorry, teen years ago, there were seven 147 00:07:59,027 --> 00:08:01,267 Speaker 3: guys who were jumping two forty, and traditionally there has 148 00:08:01,307 --> 00:08:03,427 Speaker 3: been a lot of guys in the past. When I 149 00:08:03,467 --> 00:08:06,307 Speaker 3: was competing, it was about eight or nine guys jump 150 00:08:06,707 --> 00:08:10,307 Speaker 3: two forty. So it's possible. And from what I've seen 151 00:08:10,307 --> 00:08:11,987 Speaker 3: in the guys in the past, fame you has definitely 152 00:08:11,987 --> 00:08:14,067 Speaker 3: got the creditials to put them together for sure. 153 00:08:14,507 --> 00:08:18,467 Speaker 2: And does auto matter Roger, he's twelfth and last to go, 154 00:08:18,667 --> 00:08:21,787 Speaker 2: does that make any difference? Positively or negatively? 155 00:08:24,547 --> 00:08:27,627 Speaker 3: I guess positively. You can lock in the big jumps 156 00:08:27,667 --> 00:08:31,147 Speaker 3: first attempt and really put the screws on people. If 157 00:08:31,147 --> 00:08:33,467 Speaker 3: you're last and you've got you've got another crack at 158 00:08:33,467 --> 00:08:35,267 Speaker 3: it when you see everyone else is going over, so 159 00:08:35,347 --> 00:08:40,587 Speaker 3: you do have a chance. I think first up is 160 00:08:42,547 --> 00:08:45,107 Speaker 3: for myself would be an advantage, I guess if there 161 00:08:45,187 --> 00:08:47,307 Speaker 3: is one, because you can lock that one in without 162 00:08:47,387 --> 00:08:51,267 Speaker 3: and or worry about what anyone else has done. So yeah, 163 00:08:51,627 --> 00:08:53,627 Speaker 3: it's worthwhile if you can go first, I think, or 164 00:08:53,707 --> 00:08:54,067 Speaker 3: early on. 165 00:08:54,427 --> 00:08:57,547 Speaker 2: All right, well, we'll get to see tomorrow morning how 166 00:08:57,587 --> 00:09:01,027 Speaker 2: he goes. What you got telling you? It feels like 167 00:09:01,147 --> 00:09:04,027 Speaker 2: a podium. Is a real chance. He is a gold 168 00:09:04,067 --> 00:09:05,587 Speaker 2: medal chance, isn't he? 169 00:09:07,867 --> 00:09:13,747 Speaker 3: Oh? Absolutely, you know, without sort of being too sort 170 00:09:13,747 --> 00:09:17,267 Speaker 3: of veguess over confident. When I looked at high jump 171 00:09:17,347 --> 00:09:20,547 Speaker 3: this year, and you know, I looked at the depth 172 00:09:20,587 --> 00:09:24,267 Speaker 3: across the fields, even some of the well decorated high jumpers. 173 00:09:24,267 --> 00:09:27,187 Speaker 3: Stefan Holm from Sweden who won in two thousand and four, 174 00:09:27,827 --> 00:09:32,067 Speaker 3: he was commenting that the death and both formans ending 175 00:09:32,147 --> 00:09:36,987 Speaker 3: high jump was not as I guess, stacked as it 176 00:09:37,027 --> 00:09:40,387 Speaker 3: has been in previous times. But Hamish is right up 177 00:09:40,427 --> 00:09:43,107 Speaker 3: there in terms of performances anyway, with all of the 178 00:09:43,147 --> 00:09:47,187 Speaker 3: recent medals back in the day, he's absolutely a good 179 00:09:47,187 --> 00:09:50,107 Speaker 3: gold medal chance. I joined against Charles often back in 180 00:09:50,147 --> 00:09:52,627 Speaker 3: the day and he's still got the Olympic grecor from 181 00:09:52,667 --> 00:09:54,907 Speaker 3: ninety six. I'd love to think Hamish could have a 182 00:09:54,947 --> 00:09:58,627 Speaker 3: crack at that at least, But no, he's a great chance. 183 00:09:58,667 --> 00:10:02,147 Speaker 3: That The two people that I thought were good chances 184 00:10:02,147 --> 00:10:05,707 Speaker 3: of leading into this was Maddie Wishi, who always performs 185 00:10:05,707 --> 00:10:08,667 Speaker 3: in big meats, and she did. She did the damage 186 00:10:08,707 --> 00:10:12,067 Speaker 3: this morning and and she got well. She had the 187 00:10:12,067 --> 00:10:16,467 Speaker 3: best overall performances in all six throws, but she came 188 00:10:16,467 --> 00:10:19,107 Speaker 3: out with silb which is fantastic, and Hamish was the 189 00:10:19,107 --> 00:10:22,427 Speaker 3: other one. Those were the two that I was really confident. 190 00:10:22,507 --> 00:10:24,427 Speaker 3: And you know the rest of them along them had 191 00:10:24,507 --> 00:10:29,027 Speaker 3: some tough, some tough, tough performances over the last sort 192 00:10:29,027 --> 00:10:31,787 Speaker 3: of nine days. But now Hamish was a great chance. 193 00:10:31,987 --> 00:10:35,347 Speaker 3: And you know, I like nothing better than you know, 194 00:10:35,627 --> 00:10:38,067 Speaker 3: the high jumping the number one sport for the country 195 00:10:38,267 --> 00:10:41,467 Speaker 3: out of the Olympics. Because I'm biased, obviously, but we're 196 00:10:41,467 --> 00:10:43,347 Speaker 3: all looking forward to it, we really are. 197 00:10:43,347 --> 00:10:45,507 Speaker 2: We just can't wait till breakfast time tomorrow morning, more 198 00:10:45,507 --> 00:10:48,067 Speaker 2: slightly earlier than probably a lot of people normally get 199 00:10:48,107 --> 00:10:50,027 Speaker 2: up on a Sunday. Roger, great to get your insight 200 00:10:50,147 --> 00:10:54,347 Speaker 2: and your expertise. Uh, let's let's see how he goes. Great, 201 00:10:54,427 --> 00:10:58,147 Speaker 2: Thanks Jason, No, thank you, Roger. Roger Taponi there former 202 00:10:58,427 --> 00:11:01,827 Speaker 2: top high jumper, International high jumper too, Commonwealth Games and 203 00:11:02,067 --> 00:11:04,627 Speaker 2: as you can tell, they're still a real student of 204 00:11:04,707 --> 00:11:07,347 Speaker 2: the sport. He'll be up at five, will you. I 205 00:11:07,427 --> 00:11:10,067 Speaker 2: will beat five o'clock tomorrow morning is when the high 206 00:11:10,147 --> 00:11:13,627 Speaker 2: jump gets underway. Hamish Kerr one of twelve. I see 207 00:11:13,667 --> 00:11:16,467 Speaker 2: the New Zealand tab has him his favorite for the 208 00:11:16,467 --> 00:11:19,187 Speaker 2: gold medal. He is the number one ranked high jumper 209 00:11:19,227 --> 00:11:22,307 Speaker 2: in the world right now as far as PB is concerned. 210 00:11:22,347 --> 00:11:24,507 Speaker 2: There are a couple in the field with a higher 211 00:11:24,907 --> 00:11:29,427 Speaker 2: personal best than Hamish Kurr, including the joint gold medalists 212 00:11:29,747 --> 00:11:32,987 Speaker 2: from three years ago, Muta's s A Barshem of Kata 213 00:11:33,347 --> 00:11:37,387 Speaker 2: and John Marco Tamberi of Italy. But often in a 214 00:11:37,427 --> 00:11:42,027 Speaker 2: competition like this, personal best isn't necessarily all important. You 215 00:11:42,067 --> 00:11:44,787 Speaker 2: heard Roger say, look, has Hamish Kerr got a two forty, 216 00:11:44,827 --> 00:11:47,027 Speaker 2: And yes he has, but it might not be in 217 00:11:47,027 --> 00:11:50,827 Speaker 2: such a high pressure situation as this five o'clock tomorrow morning. 218 00:11:50,867 --> 00:11:52,707 Speaker 2: Don't miss it. You can tune on on Gold Sport 219 00:11:52,987 --> 00:11:55,267 Speaker 2: via iHeartRadio. 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