1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Are not a great poll for the National Party out 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: today at all. So I'm going to run you through 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: that shortly seventeen past four. 4 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 2: Who won board? With the tap app? Download and get 5 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: your bed on eighteen bit responsibility? 6 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: You can't take you anywhere, Darcy. 7 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: Who won the pole? Do you have a winner? Oh? 8 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: You're so lame. That's just what a dad joke. 9 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 3: I'm talking about sport though I reference everything back to 10 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 3: time was they're a winner? No? 11 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 2: Right, okay, good, I. 12 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: Know what you mean. I was commenting on the quality 13 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: of your joke. Listen Downcy water Grave Sports Talk Hoast. 14 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: If you don't know which loon I'm talking to right now. 15 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: Do you look at the rugby bosses coming out and 16 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: saying to the players, if you go to the Rebel League, 17 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: you can't play the black jersey. Do you see that 18 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: as a sign that they're worried about the rebel League? 19 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah they should be. 20 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 3: Why they should be because this is backed by Saudi money. 21 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 3: They've got a lot of money. They don't care about profit, 22 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 3: they don't care about what they're going to make. They're 23 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 3: about diversifying away from oil, which has only got a 24 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 3: set amount of time before it disappears, regardless of what 25 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 3: some politicians over here think, it's going to go on forever. 26 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: I've got to stop this. I'll get away from that. 27 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 3: But they're looking at sport because this is a wonderful 28 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 3: conduit to the human race and they're flying into it. 29 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: So they don't care to make any money and if 30 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 3: they throw enough money at people, they'll change. So World rugby, 31 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 3: you've gone, oh, oh, hold on, this is a game changer. 32 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 3: We've got to say now, if you sign with this league, 33 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 3: you're not playing INTERNASA because they're freaked out. But I 34 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 3: like the way it's an upsetter in global rugby, really do. 35 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: I love it. 36 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: But there are serious questions and reasonable questions as to 37 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,279 Speaker 1: whether it would work or not. Because if you're basically 38 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: doing what the World sevens are doing, but you're doing 39 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: World fifteens, are people going to turn out and watch it? 40 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: Is that a sustainable format? 41 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: Right? 42 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: But what this move indicates is they may well think 43 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: it is a sustainable format. World Rugby. 44 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 3: They are worried because they don't want to lose the cream, 45 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 3: and the best way they can stop the cream being 46 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 3: whipped off the top. 47 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: Is by mind does no. But they've got I'm led 48 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: to believe Eve the Herald understands. 49 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: We understand that there are a number of players weighing 50 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 3: this up, and they've got and they've got to be 51 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 3: done kind of like November rest are the thing. So 52 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 3: it's coming. 53 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: Rapidly toward the end of that. 54 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 3: So world rugby have gone, okay, look, we need to 55 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 3: draw understand and we need to do that very soon 56 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 3: to stop players, to discourage players. 57 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: I mean, isn't it just gonna What it'll mean is 58 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: that the Aaron Smiths of the world, instead of heading 59 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: off to Japan, will head off to Saudi money. Like 60 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: he's not going to stop everybody. 61 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:32,119 Speaker 3: No. 62 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: But also, and this drag on our. 63 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: Players away for money is already happening. 64 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 3: There's a couple of aspects to this that I don't 65 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 3: think people quite understand, and one of those is the 66 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 3: player safety and how the players are affected by this, 67 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 3: and what guarantees are in place for the players around 68 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 3: what they do, how much they play, how on the 69 00:02:54,639 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 3: contracts for they are. That's why all these rugby wards 70 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 3: there's eight of them now, have said, you know, show 71 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 3: extreme caution because they simply don't know what the future holds. 72 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. 73 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 3: So like if you're an Aaron Smith, you're an older player, 74 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 3: you're not gonna go any further. You've done everything you 75 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: need to do, and there's a chance to make a 76 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 3: couple of million because they were talking big money, maybe 77 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 3: you just go, you know what, I don't care if 78 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 3: it doesn't give me a sign on fee and I'll run. 79 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 3: So you're losing that in maybe some of the younger 80 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 3: players who figure I'm gonna get an all black jerzy anyway, 81 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 3: so I'm going to go and cash. But Lester when 82 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 3: he disappeared off to France, still really young. But if 83 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 3: I might have a chance, so I'll go and do 84 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 3: it anyway. You come back, he's back in the side again. 85 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 3: But if the rugby teams or nations concern say absolutely not, 86 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 3: that does stop that in it's tracked and it seems 87 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: to be very light on detail. Might be three sixty, 88 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 3: a lot of bluster, a lot of we got this, 89 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 3: we're gonna do this, We're gonna do but not a 90 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 3: lot of detail. And I think you've got to be 91 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 3: aware of lack of detail from these moneyed overloads. 92 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, very interesting. Are you talking about this on the show. 93 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Nichol's going to join US Rugby Players Association CEO. 94 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: You think you know a few things, yep. 95 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: Listen to half past five with me because I'm gonna 96 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: talk to Mark Robinson, rugby boss. Okay, okay, you listen 97 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: to mine, and I'll listen to yours. 98 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: What you're okay, your water, We're gonna deal with politics. 99 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: Listen for more from Hither du Plassy Alan Drive. Listen 100 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, 101 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.