1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Right now. It didn't take long, did it. This week 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: we had an announcement from the government that they would 3 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: give preferential treatment to wool when they are refurbishing or 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: building new government buildings, which is great news for the 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: wool industry in New Zealand. Right now we've got local 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: building producer producers of building products saying, what about us care? 7 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: We timber organizations say they've been lobbying for the same thing, 8 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: haven't got it. Timber Industry Federation director Jeff Ilot is 9 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: with us. Jeff, Good evening, Yeah, good evening, all right. 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: So this was in the New Zealand First coalition agreement 11 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: with National so that that's how it's got onto the agenda. 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: Who have you guys, who have you been going to 13 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: trying to lobby for your end? 14 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 2: We had been talking with Forestry Minister Todd McClay on 15 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: this issue, and this was actually a policy under the 16 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: previous coalition government with the New Zealand First, dating back 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: to when Shane Jones was Minister most of Forestry. A 18 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: proposed policy at that point, but I never quite got 19 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: over the line unfortunately. So yeah, we just sort of 20 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 2: saw with interest and congratulations to the to a wall. 21 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: It's a very sensible decision we believe to be doing so. 22 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 2: And we just thought, you know, equally sensible to be 23 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 2: specifying that the government government buildings are done with. Wouldn't 24 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 2: it possible? 25 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I guess carpet's one thing, you know, But 26 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: actually the structure of a building is quite a different one. 27 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 1: Do you know, like how much more expensive it would 28 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: be for a building? 29 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: It varies, Ryan, you know some some of the costs 30 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: are more expensive, but the production times are quicker and 31 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: the buildings are typically quicker to build up them. Concrete 32 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: and steel buildings. Now we're talking coroceliminated timber type structures there, 33 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 2: you know, so it evens out, and particularly when you 34 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: start taking them into account the benefits of the carbon 35 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: sequestration that timber buildings offer. You know, it locks up 36 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: all that carb and that trees have sucked up over 37 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 2: there thirty year lifespan. It locks it up for sort 38 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: of fifty years or more. 39 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: Are there are there other limitations with timber like can 40 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: you only go so. 41 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: High skies of the limit? Basically? Ryan, you know there 42 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: and looks of Canada there's there's now CLT buildings in 43 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: excess of twenty stories. I think there's someone excess of 44 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: twenty five stories. I think it is in Australia now. 45 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 2: So so really the sky is the limit in terms 46 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: of what can can be built using wood. 47 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: What are they and what are they telling you? 48 00:02:59,000 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 2: What? 49 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: Jeff, what's the what's the line from the government to 50 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: you guys at the moment just not a priority. We'll 51 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 1: get back to you. 52 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, largely saying not a priority in the line we 53 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 2: have had is that it's too difficult in competition, you know, 54 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: reasons of competition or flottering competition. They don't want to 55 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: be seen doing. That was the line that we've been 56 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 2: told over it over period. So yeah, it was just 57 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: with a raised by grow that we saw the wall announcement. 58 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 2: So yeah, it clearly can be done. 59 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: Jeff, appreciate your time, Thanks for coming on the program. 60 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: That's Jeff Irelot, who's the New Zealand Timber Industry Federation director, 61 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: wanting the same deal the wall Guy's got basically ten 62 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: up to six For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, 63 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: listen live to news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, 64 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.