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Speaker 2: Hello, are you great New Zealander And welcome to Matt

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Speaker 2: and Tyler Full Show Podcast number two one nine two

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Speaker 2: one nine for the tenth of October twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Really really fun show went off the rails. There's a

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Speaker 2: call where this face facts went pretty sexual at the end.

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Speaker 2: But you know, good on your mark. You got one

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a great trojan horse, that's for sure,

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Speaker 4: So lookout for that. So download, subscribe and give us

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. And look, I really love the chat

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Speaker 2: with Harry Everill, who's a young man who's written a

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Speaker 2: book called Hungry for Happiness about his mental health struggle.

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Speaker 2: It's a fantastic bookers struggle with male and orexia and

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Speaker 2: it's just an incredible book. And actually I'm down in

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Speaker 2: Hawk's Bay on Sunday from twelve to one talking to

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Speaker 2: him at an event down there at the Hawk's Bay

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Speaker 2: Readers and Writers Festival. So if you're in the region,

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Speaker 2: you're near Hastings on Sunday afternoon lunchtime, come along, yeah

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Speaker 2: and listen to us listen to me more.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's going to be a great, great event.

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Speaker 2: If you're punished by me more but live.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: If you are down there, get down there.

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Speaker 2: But give us five stars and give a taste.

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Speaker 5: All right there, Love you.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the leak issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons News.

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Speaker 4: Talk said, the Happy Friday to you. Welcome to the

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Speaker 4: end of the week. For a lot of us. Always

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Speaker 4: feels God on a Friday, doesn't it. I hope you're

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Speaker 4: doing well.

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Speaker 5: We're heavy.

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Speaker 4: You're listening in this country of ours? Kday, Matt, Yes,

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Speaker 4: we're here. What's going on here?

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Speaker 2: Where are we?

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Speaker 5: It's Friday?

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Speaker 2: All right? Sorry? The Dodgers are playing the Phillies.

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Speaker 5: And how they do it, it's pretty tight.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to spoil anyone that's waiting into watch.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure how many people. There's a few people

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Speaker 2: texting about the Dodgers. But baseball is a risky in

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Speaker 2: the American sport in general. It's a risky to get

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Speaker 2: yourself involved because it's so glamorous and so exciting. And

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Speaker 2: about twelve years ago, when I saw the Dodgers play

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Speaker 2: in Colorado and they smashed the Rockies, and I've been

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Speaker 2: in love with them ever since. And it's just such

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Speaker 2: an un goal to really really care about a sports

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Speaker 2: team that isn't from any of your hometowns or anything.

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Speaker 4: You're massively donkey deep into this thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you go home, you watch the baseball. Yeah, you have

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Speaker 4: it sort of on multiple screens and here at times.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, Matt, hell of a ball game at Dodger Stadium,

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Speaker 2: going on down, going down to the y. Yeah, because

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Speaker 2: if the Dodgers win this, then they're through to the

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Speaker 2: next round. They're through to the champion, the National League

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Speaker 2: Championship Series if they anyway, let's not get into the details.

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Speaker 2: Just let's go Dodgers.

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Speaker 5: Let's go Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: Right, if you care about baseball, you know what's going on.

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Speaker 4: Hey, now, just before we get into the old menu

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Speaker 4: and what's on the show today, just a quick question

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Speaker 4: for you. Yeah, drinking, it's a little bit of elitist

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Speaker 5: Yeah, do you reckon?

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Speaker 4: It's a little bit like it's a little bit on

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Speaker 4: keywi that. I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why.

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Speaker 4: So We've moved into the place that's got a massive

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Speaker 4: so I should probably upgrade that. And I tried it

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Speaker 4: once and it took me like half a day to

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Speaker 4: whacker out, and it's a duous and to be frank,

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Speaker 4: it feels like waste my time.

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Speaker 5: I'm not a great gardener.

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Speaker 4: So I just thought, and you know me massively stally,

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Speaker 4: I don't like spending money if I can just do

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Speaker 2: And economy works if you do what you're good at

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Speaker 2: I say, absolutely, get a gardener. Okay, absolutely if you're

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Speaker 4: Because I asked the old man, and he laughed at

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Speaker 4: do it yourself.

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Speaker 5: You're made of.

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Speaker 2: Well, how big are we've properly be talking here? We're

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Speaker 2: It's quite steep though, there eleborate shrubberies in there or anything.

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Speaker 4: I've done a beautiful job, right, so lovely trees in there.

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Speaker 4: But and also there's the tulips popping up at the moment.

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Speaker 4: So I when I get the weed whacker out and

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Speaker 4: like wrapping up all these beautiful tulips.

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Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't take the joy of lawn mowing away

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Speaker 2: is mowing a lawn. I absolutely love mowing the lawn.

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Speaker 2: And surely you can do that. It's truly, you can

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Speaker 2: you mean to push? Like a there's no motor. It's

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Speaker 2: just old the old standard. There's no motor, just the blades,

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Speaker 2: just a push moller wow, and with a with a catcher, no.

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Speaker 4: No catcher, right, just let the grass fall where it does. Okay,

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Speaker 4: well you and you know why I got there. Nobody

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Speaker 2: That that is, that is not what I mean by

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Speaker 2: a lot among the lawns is fun.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, right, I'll go back to dad. I'm giving a.

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Speaker 5: Gardener and I won't hear any more about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Right on to all these people ticks and go the fillies.

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Speaker 2: Come on, let's go Dodgers. Yeah, yeah, anyway, anyway, the

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Speaker 2: answer to that is get a gardener, said for the lawn.

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Speaker 5: Okay, okay, very good. Good to solve that one.

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Speaker 4: Onto today's show after three o'clock because it.

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Speaker 2: Is a Friday, the new Zealander of the Week, New

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Speaker 2: Svender of the week. Yeah, yes, that's right. So lots

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Speaker 4: That is a big spoiler. But keep your nominations coming

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Speaker 4: through a nine two nine to two. Also after three o'clock,

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Speaker 4: we want to have a chat about vegan products. So

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Speaker 4: the EU wants your vegans hostage to roll to stop

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Speaker 4: parliament in Europe could ban plant based foods from using

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we need to bring that in here. And I'd

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Speaker 2: agree with milk as well. If it doesn't come from

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Speaker 2: it's mana munching and it's not on.

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Speaker 4: Nicely said, looking forward to that after three o'clock. After two,

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Speaker 4: it's mental health awareness this weekend. As we know it

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Speaker 4: looking after our mental health. So we can hear from

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Speaker 4: people who have gone through those issues mental health battles

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Speaker 2: Yeah, positive stories. And as I've been saying the show,

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Speaker 2: I read this fantastic book called Hungary to Be Happy

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Speaker 2: by Harry Averill, and I'm actually I like the book

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Speaker 2: the Hawk's Bay on Sunday at twelve o'clock. It's called

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Speaker 2: Healing and Recovery at the Hawk's Bay Readers and Writers' Festival.

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Speaker 2: So come along if you're in the area on Russell

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Speaker 2: an incredible story how he got male anorexia, went well, anorexia,

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Speaker 2: But he got anorexia, you know, chasing success as a

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Speaker 2: sportsperson and it nearly killed him. And the way he

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Speaker 2: book is such a great read, Hunger for Happiness. So

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Speaker 2: looking forward to talking term on the show after two o'clock.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, as you say, Tyler, I'd like to

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Speaker 2: hear other people's stories one hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 2: for Mental Health Awareness Week, how you fought back from

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Speaker 4: Yep, there's going to be a good hour. But right now,

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Speaker 4: let's have a chat about using phones while driving. So

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Speaker 4: recently a truck driver was convicted of causing a fatal

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Speaker 4: by that and calling out the justice system for letting

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Speaker 4: him off lightly. This tragic does shine a harsh spotlight

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Speaker 4: on on our ongoing battle with distracted driving. Despite laws

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Speaker 4: banning phone use while driving, we've had that in place

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Speaker 4: to some time, enforcement and penalties remain inconsistent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so everyone will have seen people driving along looking

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Speaker 2: at their phones yeap, texting, scrolling, because we are dangerously

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Speaker 2: addicted to our phones. It's an incredibly dangerous thing to do.

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Speaker 2: You probably do it. There's probably someone listening right now

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Speaker 2: that does it. There could be someone out of driving

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Speaker 5: Aye.

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Speaker 2: But obviously driving while you're not looking at the road

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Speaker 2: is about as dangerous a thing as you can possibly do.

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Speaker 2: So in Australia they have, and particularly in Victoria, they

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Speaker 2: have a lot of technology that has been put into

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Speaker 2: place to try and catch people on their phones, including

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Speaker 2: infrared cameras that can spot the phone in your hand

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Speaker 2: and hefty fines. Tyler, Yes, absolutely so.

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Speaker 4: Just going state by state, in Queensland, it's one and

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Speaker 4: sixty one dollars Australian for a legal phone use. In Victoria,

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Speaker 4: it's five hundred and fifty five Western Australia anywhere between

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Speaker 4: six hundred and a grand in South Australia is six hundred,

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Speaker 4: which is a heck of a lot more than the

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Speaker 4: penalties here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So what do we need to do about this

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Speaker 2: situation because it is killing people? And do you think

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Speaker 2: more fines and more detection would be the way to

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Speaker 2: do it? And or is it honking your hornet someone?

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Speaker 2: You know? Do we need to start taking it into

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Speaker 2: our own hands and pardon the pun, Yeah, takeularly about

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Speaker 2: taking people with phones in their hands into our hands

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Speaker 2: and yelling at them. And you know, definitely if you're

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Speaker 2: because you know, if someone's driving along. I mean, seriously,

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Speaker 2: it's ridiculous. Have we got to this where people are

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Speaker 2: driving around long driving along and they're so addicted to

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Speaker 5: And same with using your phone.

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Speaker 2: You don't. Is being on your phone when you're driving,

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Speaker 5: One hundred and eighty ten eighties is number to call.

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Speaker 2: Breakfast, hagi, what chance that this is over? There is

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Speaker 15: Again, I would say almost none. Unfortunately, even if disagreement

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Speaker 4: B Afternoon to you, and we are talking about driving

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Speaker 4: Right they use in Australia to crack down on it,

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Speaker 2: Are they AI cameras?

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Speaker 2: I know they were infrared cameras and so they read

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Speaker 9: They don't care. The fine is so minimal. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, final, no fine. You're risking a lot on the

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Speaker 2: Do you think, David, that it's just that they're revulsingly

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Speaker 9: I don't really care if.

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Speaker 9: I'm more than happy to let them know.

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Speaker 5: Thank you very much. Just mentioned the old shaming thing.

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Speaker 2: Well, before you get in the car, you might want

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Speaker 2: scrolling social media? How would you feel if you killed someone? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I mean, how's the rest of your life after that?

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Speaker 2: I was destroyed for most people? Yeah? Yeah, and you know,

438
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Speaker 2: destroyed emotionally. I mean it would be hard to claw

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Speaker 2: yourself back and prove yourself if you're a good person

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Speaker 2: coming back from that, wouldn't it?

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Speaker 5: Exactly? Can you hear from you?

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Speaker 4: What do we need to do, if anything, to clamp

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Speaker 4: down on illegal use while driving? Oh, eight hundred and

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Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty is that number to call? Headlines with

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Speaker 4: railing coming up?

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Speaker 2: The West Coast Gray.

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Speaker 19: to matte Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 5: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 4: Ray Lane, and we have been talking about fines and

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Speaker 4: penalties for using your phone while driving. Clearly Australia takes

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Speaker 4: a lot more seriously than us. A lot larger fines

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Speaker 4: across the various states and the utilization of cameras and

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Speaker 4: AI technology to pick up on people using their phones.

474
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Speaker 4: Do we need to bring in something like that into

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Speaker 4: New Zealand love to hear your thoughts. One hundred and

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Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty so.

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Speaker 2: In Victoria using a portable device model phone or driving

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Speaker 2: instant six hundred and eleven dollar fine. What's that fine here?

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Speaker 5: I believe it is one hundred and fifty dollars for

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Speaker 5: using your phone.

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Speaker 2: Well, in Queensland instant fine of one two hundred and

482
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Speaker 2: nine dollars.

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Speaker 5: Which is significant.

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Speaker 4: And the information that we've just got in front of

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Speaker 4: us now three hundred and thirty thousand fines we're handed

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Speaker 4: out in Australia last year eighty eight percent of those

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Speaker 4: were issued via the cameras.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting though that would work rather than the idea

489
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Speaker 2: that you're driving around along not looking at the road

490
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Speaker 2: could kill yourself, your family or strangers. It's funny that

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Speaker 2: finds work more than that logic.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, But is that because most people wouldn't think

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Speaker 4: about that rightly or wrongly. It just doesn't go through

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Speaker 4: their mind that if I do this, I may kill

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Speaker 4: somebody and ruin multiple lives. Yeah, and maybe that should

496
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Speaker 4: be the thinking before you do that. Nine two nine

497
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Speaker 4: two is the text number, Pete. You're a former truck driver.

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Speaker 10: It used to be going to make a few years

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Speaker 10: ago now. But the end of the day is what

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Speaker 10: did two people normally relying on their life take one

501
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Speaker 10: or two of those items of the way. They're pretty

502
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Speaker 10: much bugging today's will they rely on their phone and

503
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Speaker 10: their car? Yeah, if you go hard on them. I

504
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Speaker 10: do believe I heard on one of your shows. They

505
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Speaker 10: don't know, but one of your your shows anyway, who

506
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Speaker 10: it was, But what they do and not apparently an asia,

507
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Speaker 10: is what they do if the cop care, they take

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Speaker 10: their phone off and do the same here put them

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Speaker 10: in the front of the car. So I run it over.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what if you if you were going

511
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Speaker 2: to take you know, you could take it further. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm not suggesting this, but it would make a difference

513
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Speaker 2: if your phone got confiscated and your you know, your

514
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Speaker 2: phone connection got cut off for two months. Yeah, that

515
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Speaker 2: would or whatever duration I guarantee you that would you

516
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Speaker 2: absolutely right, Pete, that would freak people out. I don't

517
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Speaker 2: think people listening right now, could just have the thought

518
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Speaker 2: that you couldn't have a phone for let's say three months.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the embarrassment of having to tell your employer

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Speaker 4: and say, sorry, boss, I'm no longer allowed to use

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Speaker 4: a phone for the next two months.

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Speaker 5: I've been cut off.

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Speaker 2: A cop ran it over and then called up the

524
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Speaker 2: telco and put me on the black lists and shut

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Speaker 2: down my SIM card. Yeah, yeah, I mean you're absolutely right, Peter,

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Speaker 2: that would that would And isn't that weird that we've

527
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Speaker 2: reached that statement now where people I think people would

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Speaker 2: rather a one dollars fine than that.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and I reckon that as well. Just do that

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Speaker 10: basically follow what Australia. You don't follow. All Australians do it,

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Speaker 10: but we make the penalties high, say a thousand dollars five.

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Speaker 10: They got to think twice before they pull that phone out.

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Speaker 10: They get and use whatever vehicle they're using. Now, I

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Speaker 10: do see it, hearing you, Plymouth. I walk along the

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Speaker 10: street and you still see truck drivers using them. They've

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Speaker 10: got a truck and trailer behind them. So really, if

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Speaker 10: you get their number and dub them, you bring up

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Speaker 10: the employer and say this here and pretty much. That

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Speaker 10: driver will be disciplined pretty harshly if not los his license.

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Speaker 10: You just don't there's no need. But you've got modern

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Speaker 10: technology day, you got eye branes and all that.

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Speaker 20: You don't have to do that.

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Speaker 10: So it's just stupidity, really and inconsiderate killing some person

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Speaker 10: that may be because of your use of a buck

545
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Speaker 10: phone that was not needed to be used when you're driving.

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Speaker 10: So hit them hard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you for your call, Pete.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of people would agree with that.

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Speaker 2: You guys are sounding almighty looking down on the worst

550
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Speaker 2: of us, as if you too have never done it.

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Speaker 2: I agree it's wrong, but don't make it sound like

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Speaker 2: you are pure. Pure. Come on, you've never pure. I've

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Speaker 2: never driven along a motorway looking at my phone when

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Speaker 2: I'm driving. What do you mean? Yeah, I mean you're pure,

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Speaker 2: I drive along. I mean okay, look Minjoe. I mean

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Speaker 2: I have a system in my car where so maybe

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Speaker 2: I'm not pure pure. My car will read out the

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Speaker 2: text messages that come through to me. Yeah, and I

559
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Speaker 2: don't necessarily feel the need to go on social media.

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Speaker 2: I might have locked down at my phone at an intersection.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but.

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Speaker 5: I don't a motorway or the Harbor Bridge.

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Speaker 2: But I don't do that anymore. But come on, that's

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Speaker 2: not pure of pure to not.

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Speaker 4: Do it, and I don't think that's been Pollyanna to

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Speaker 4: not use your phone while you're driving down the motorway.

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Speaker 4: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 4: to call. We'll go to Ali get Ali.

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Speaker 21: I think you mentioned a really good strategy that you

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Speaker 21: blocked their stem, because if they're that addicted to it,

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Speaker 21: that would really drive that point home. I think that's

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Speaker 21: really good. I actually had a slightly different perspective and

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Speaker 21: I was wondering what you guys would think about that

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Speaker 21: because I was not born and raised in New Zealand,

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Speaker 21: and I've spoken to a lot of people who are

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Speaker 21: from outside New Zealand. And the idea is that there's

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Speaker 21: certain things like driving and looking at your phone.

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Speaker 16: Or having a dog in the park without a leash.

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Speaker 21: There's certain rules on which Kiwi's just blanket go. Like,

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Speaker 21: you know what, I don't really care about this rule

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Speaker 21: and I'm not going to follow it. And it's really

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Speaker 21: interesting because my wife actually has a phobia of dogs

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Speaker 21: and she constantly gets really worked up about this that

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Speaker 21: you know there's a rule, why aren't people following it?

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Speaker 16: Blah blah blah.

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Speaker 21: So I think there is this this section of society

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Speaker 21: that passionately does not care. They're like and and to

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Speaker 21: your point that you know you were asking, you know,

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Speaker 21: if you killed someone, how would you feel? But I

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Speaker 21: think the vast majority of people are so sure of themselves.

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Speaker 21: They're like, oh, yeah, but that would never happen to me,

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Speaker 21: because I'm such a good driver, and you know, I'll

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Speaker 21: be fine.

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Speaker 2: It's such a good driver, I could drive without looking

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Speaker 2: at the road exactly.

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Speaker 21: You know, how great of a driver do you have

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Speaker 21: to be there? You don't even have to look right,

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Speaker 21: But I think, yeah, to your point that if you

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Speaker 21: were to disconnect their stem for a little bit, I

600
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Speaker 21: think they would really drive the.

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Speaker 2: Point I've got to say with the text before accusing

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Speaker 2: me of being pure than pure, I do. I do

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Speaker 2: let my little doggie off the off the leash and

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Speaker 2: places where it's not to be there.

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Speaker 5: It's hell of an emission.

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00:27:40,213 --> 00:27:41,253
Speaker 2: So I do sin.

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00:27:41,533 --> 00:27:44,133
Speaker 5: Yeah, the police are going to turn out outside the studio.

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Speaker 2: I do sin. But then again I would say that

609
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Speaker 2: my dogs. You know, it's probably if you're scared of rats.

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00:27:49,373 --> 00:27:50,973
Speaker 2: You'd be scared of my dog. Yeah, it's just a

611
00:27:50,973 --> 00:27:51,733
Speaker 2: little little fellow.

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Speaker 5: He is pure Colin.

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Speaker 2: Hey, but thank you so much for you call Ali. Yeah,

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00:27:54,493 --> 00:27:57,173
Speaker 2: thank you very much. Right, twenty to two.

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Speaker 4: Plenty of calls to get too. If you can't get through,

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Speaker 4: keep trying. Nine two ninety two is the text number.

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Speaker 2: The worst I see as a truck driver with Bluetooth

618
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Speaker 2: is the one that have the phone holder plaster to

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Speaker 2: the windscreen, eating over the steering wheel, putting numbers in

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Speaker 2: to call someone with their eyes totally off the road.

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Speaker 2: Very dangerous and should be illegal.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, good text as twenty to two back in a month.

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Speaker 1: It's a fresh take on talkback. It's Matt Heath and

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Speaker 1: Taylor Adams afternoons. Have your say on eight hundred and

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Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty News TALKB.

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Speaker 4: News Talks ZB. Do we need to come down harder

627
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Speaker 4: on people using their phones while driving? Eight hundred and

628
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Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 2: Stewart You but buttle bit of Stuart.

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Speaker 22: I've got to Tyler, how are you?

631
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so you do it for me? Thanks Stuart.

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Speaker 22: It's a long time mos snurf. First time caller.

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Speaker 13: Good.

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Speaker 22: I need the topic touch that I'm suddenly going nice

635
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Speaker 22: to pick the phone up and have a chat about it.

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Speaker 3: Nice.

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Speaker 22: The one thing that I think you missed in the

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Speaker 22: Australian example was the demerit points they apply to it

639
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Speaker 22: as well. They only get twelve demerit points over there,

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Speaker 22: and you get a thousand dollars fine and three demerit points. Ano,

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Speaker 22: there is twenty five percent of your demerit points to

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Speaker 22: go on because you've used the phone, right.

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Speaker 4: That is interesting because I did see in this information

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Speaker 4: here it was three demerit points and Queensland for example,

645
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Speaker 4: but I didn't realize it's very different from our demerit

646
00:29:20,973 --> 00:29:22,773
Speaker 4: point system, which of course is one hundred twelve.

647
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Speaker 5: Is a different story.

648
00:29:24,333 --> 00:29:26,173
Speaker 22: Indeed, But if you had to lose twenty five percent

649
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Speaker 22: of your demerit points, you sort of work your ideas

650
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Speaker 22: up pretty quickly. Yeah. That's and the fact that a

651
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Speaker 22: thousand dollars fine is pretty motivated.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 22: Now the motorcycle rider, I have to say, I came

654
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Speaker 22: back literally on Wednesday, and coming through christ such every

655
00:29:42,093 --> 00:29:45,733
Speaker 22: blimen stop sign or lights that you came to, everybody

656
00:29:46,013 --> 00:29:49,773
Speaker 22: was checking their faith and just unbelievable and I try

657
00:29:49,813 --> 00:29:52,693
Speaker 22: to stay as far away as possible as that and

658
00:29:53,013 --> 00:29:55,613
Speaker 22: or toot the horn to remind them, you know, concentrate

659
00:29:55,653 --> 00:29:56,973
Speaker 22: on the drive, not on the phone.

660
00:29:57,693 --> 00:29:58,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, just unbelievable.

661
00:29:59,053 --> 00:30:00,893
Speaker 5: So I've just looked it up, Stuart.

662
00:30:00,933 --> 00:30:02,813
Speaker 4: It's twenty demerit points at the moment if you get

663
00:30:02,853 --> 00:30:05,373
Speaker 4: caught in New Zealand plus one hundred and fifty dollar fine,

664
00:30:05,733 --> 00:30:08,773
Speaker 4: So ramping up that demerit point to what forty and

665
00:30:09,013 --> 00:30:11,533
Speaker 4: obviously a chunky fine on top of that, that would

666
00:30:11,533 --> 00:30:12,453
Speaker 4: certainly send a message.

667
00:30:13,213 --> 00:30:13,333
Speaker 11: Oh.

668
00:30:13,493 --> 00:30:16,053
Speaker 22: Look like when I went to Queensland, they just increased

669
00:30:16,093 --> 00:30:18,973
Speaker 22: it to the thousand dollars. That was a wee while ago.

670
00:30:19,533 --> 00:30:21,773
Speaker 22: But at the end of the day we suddenly looked

671
00:30:21,813 --> 00:30:23,213
Speaker 22: at each other and said, if they did that in

672
00:30:23,213 --> 00:30:25,253
Speaker 22: New Zealand, men, would people wake up?

673
00:30:25,893 --> 00:30:30,053
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, would Yeah? But I mean, can you actually

674
00:30:30,173 --> 00:30:33,333
Speaker 2: say can you? Can you? I guess you'd get some

675
00:30:33,453 --> 00:30:35,733
Speaker 2: people like that and it sends a message out. But

676
00:30:37,173 --> 00:30:40,173
Speaker 2: I just wonder if you, if you're willing to do that,

677
00:30:40,613 --> 00:30:44,573
Speaker 2: then can anything, because because already the threat of an

678
00:30:44,613 --> 00:30:46,893
Speaker 2: accident and hurting other people and hurting yourself is so

679
00:30:47,413 --> 00:30:51,053
Speaker 2: so large that everyone must know. It's a crazy thing

680
00:30:51,093 --> 00:30:51,253
Speaker 2: to do.

681
00:30:52,173 --> 00:30:55,493
Speaker 22: Why wonder, because when you consider how much of that

682
00:30:55,693 --> 00:30:58,693
Speaker 22: stretch and is actually the cause of accidents anyway, I

683
00:30:58,773 --> 00:31:01,413
Speaker 22: mean people checking out their phones as they're driving, just

684
00:31:01,493 --> 00:31:04,493
Speaker 22: a horrendous amount of that would be contributed surely, and

685
00:31:04,613 --> 00:31:05,733
Speaker 22: it would eliminate a lot of that.

686
00:31:06,133 --> 00:31:09,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks you for your call, Stuart, great first call,

687
00:31:09,133 --> 00:31:11,133
Speaker 2: call anytime. I waite hundred eighteen and eighty. Hey, Matt

688
00:31:11,133 --> 00:31:13,173
Speaker 2: and Tyler. I think the problem with texting while driving

689
00:31:13,333 --> 00:31:14,973
Speaker 2: is that the key we mentality is that it will

690
00:31:15,013 --> 00:31:16,973
Speaker 2: never happen to me, says this text, Well it can.

691
00:31:17,333 --> 00:31:19,733
Speaker 2: People need to understand the act of driving requires your

692
00:31:19,813 --> 00:31:22,333
Speaker 2: full attention. There are so many variables that you're not

693
00:31:22,573 --> 00:31:26,973
Speaker 2: in control of when driving, so let's at least safely

694
00:31:27,053 --> 00:31:29,933
Speaker 2: control the one we can. Regards Linda, it does seem

695
00:31:30,013 --> 00:31:31,893
Speaker 2: to be an absolute basic that you would be looking

696
00:31:31,933 --> 00:31:32,493
Speaker 2: where you're going.

697
00:31:32,693 --> 00:31:32,853
Speaker 14: Yeah.

698
00:31:32,933 --> 00:31:37,573
Speaker 4: Absolutely, But isn't there just your point before? Do people

699
00:31:37,693 --> 00:31:40,733
Speaker 4: think about the possibility of killing someone or getting into

700
00:31:40,733 --> 00:31:41,413
Speaker 4: a bad accident?

701
00:31:41,533 --> 00:31:42,213
Speaker 5: I don't think they do.

702
00:31:42,533 --> 00:31:44,293
Speaker 4: I generally don't think a lot of people when they

703
00:31:44,373 --> 00:31:46,213
Speaker 4: look at their phone or see a text come through,

704
00:31:46,533 --> 00:31:48,533
Speaker 4: not one part of their brain is thinking if I

705
00:31:48,733 --> 00:31:51,253
Speaker 4: do this, I may kill somebody. And that's probably the problem.

706
00:31:51,333 --> 00:31:53,773
Speaker 4: When you think about if I have too many drinks

707
00:31:53,813 --> 00:31:56,453
Speaker 4: and jump into a car, most people would think there's

708
00:31:56,453 --> 00:31:58,853
Speaker 4: a real possibility I'm going to kill myself with somebody else.

709
00:31:59,173 --> 00:32:01,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, but isn't the problem with drink driving? Is drink

710
00:32:01,493 --> 00:32:03,253
Speaker 2: driving something a sober person would never do?

711
00:32:03,813 --> 00:32:05,653
Speaker 5: Yeah, good point there is that.

712
00:32:05,773 --> 00:32:08,853
Speaker 2: Logically, it does speak to the addiction of the phone addiction,

713
00:32:08,973 --> 00:32:11,493
Speaker 2: doesn't it. Yeah, yeah, it speaks to how people and

714
00:32:11,653 --> 00:32:14,293
Speaker 2: that fomo of having to reply to someone straight away.

715
00:32:14,653 --> 00:32:16,613
Speaker 2: I mean I read a lot of books. I read

716
00:32:16,653 --> 00:32:19,253
Speaker 2: a lot of I love Charles Dickens and Boy the

717
00:32:19,413 --> 00:32:23,573
Speaker 2: communication then by letter, you know, that's how people could communicating. Yeah,

718
00:32:23,733 --> 00:32:26,013
Speaker 2: so people were quite willing to wait for a week

719
00:32:26,093 --> 00:32:28,413
Speaker 2: to get a reply to their questions. Now we're driving

720
00:32:28,453 --> 00:32:30,053
Speaker 2: down the motor aaut one hundred kilometers an hour and

721
00:32:30,093 --> 00:32:33,213
Speaker 2: we can't wait to check the text, the mundane text

722
00:32:33,533 --> 00:32:34,533
Speaker 2: message that's coming through.

723
00:32:34,653 --> 00:32:37,093
Speaker 4: How things have changed? It is thirteen to two O

724
00:32:37,173 --> 00:32:39,253
Speaker 4: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

725
00:32:40,413 --> 00:32:44,013
Speaker 1: Matt Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

726
00:32:44,093 --> 00:32:47,333
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty it's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons

727
00:32:47,533 --> 00:32:48,093
Speaker 1: news talks.

728
00:32:48,093 --> 00:32:51,613
Speaker 5: They'd be afternoons here it's eleven to two.

729
00:32:52,173 --> 00:32:55,093
Speaker 2: This text the cases. I'm listening and texting via Apple

730
00:32:55,133 --> 00:32:55,573
Speaker 2: Car Play.

731
00:32:55,813 --> 00:32:56,053
Speaker 9: Nice.

732
00:32:56,413 --> 00:32:59,293
Speaker 2: That's see, that's fine. That is allowed because you can

733
00:32:59,493 --> 00:33:02,613
Speaker 2: look using your eyes, yes, while you're texting.

734
00:33:02,373 --> 00:33:04,653
Speaker 4: And you can say, hey, Sary, why you're still got

735
00:33:04,693 --> 00:33:06,893
Speaker 4: your eyes on the road on? Yeah, and that's okay.

736
00:33:07,013 --> 00:33:09,933
Speaker 2: Hands freeze been around for about thousand years. Yes, Oh,

737
00:33:10,013 --> 00:33:16,413
Speaker 2: that is absolutely fine. It's driving along, not looking out

738
00:33:16,493 --> 00:33:17,173
Speaker 2: the windscreen.

739
00:33:17,293 --> 00:33:19,893
Speaker 4: It's the problem if you've even had to sneeze while driving,

740
00:33:19,973 --> 00:33:22,373
Speaker 4: How terrifying is that? And that's only that's only taken

741
00:33:22,453 --> 00:33:23,813
Speaker 4: your eyes off the road for a second.

742
00:33:24,133 --> 00:33:26,333
Speaker 2: I've got a condition where I sneeze. I don't know,

743
00:33:26,333 --> 00:33:29,893
Speaker 2: would you call it a condition? I always sneeze four times, right,

744
00:33:30,133 --> 00:33:32,053
Speaker 2: So when I go into a sneeze when I'm driving,

745
00:33:32,293 --> 00:33:32,533
Speaker 2: I have.

746
00:33:32,613 --> 00:33:34,773
Speaker 5: To It is terrifying. Yeah, yeah, it's right.

747
00:33:34,893 --> 00:33:35,013
Speaker 14: Right.

748
00:33:35,173 --> 00:33:38,893
Speaker 5: How's this going to go, Nadine? Have I said that right?

749
00:33:40,173 --> 00:33:40,373
Speaker 9: Yes?

750
00:33:40,533 --> 00:33:43,013
Speaker 5: Nadine, Nadine, nice to chat with you. What's your thoughts?

751
00:33:45,493 --> 00:33:48,173
Speaker 23: A few a year ago, I was in the Middle East,

752
00:33:48,413 --> 00:33:52,053
Speaker 23: UI and I spent three years. And if you have

753
00:33:52,173 --> 00:33:55,613
Speaker 23: a poon in your hand, there is camera everywhere and

754
00:33:55,773 --> 00:33:59,213
Speaker 23: you're pay with at least five hundred durham which is

755
00:33:59,293 --> 00:34:04,093
Speaker 23: two fifty dollars, and they will not ex leave you.

756
00:34:04,813 --> 00:34:08,293
Speaker 23: And even if you are on a road and police

757
00:34:08,413 --> 00:34:11,013
Speaker 23: see you with a phone, they will come and grab

758
00:34:11,093 --> 00:34:14,293
Speaker 23: the food from you and say okay, you are fine,

759
00:34:14,853 --> 00:34:16,493
Speaker 23: and they will take the food from you. And the

760
00:34:16,613 --> 00:34:18,692
Speaker 23: rules are very strict, and I think so in New

761
00:34:18,773 --> 00:34:21,853
Speaker 23: Zealand they need to put these type of rules. And

762
00:34:22,013 --> 00:34:25,293
Speaker 23: if the government puts the camera everywhere and if anybody

763
00:34:25,453 --> 00:34:28,652
Speaker 23: is seen with a poon in their hands straight away,

764
00:34:28,693 --> 00:34:31,733
Speaker 23: they should be fined because this is very dangerous and

765
00:34:32,413 --> 00:34:36,373
Speaker 23: I think so the government should put strict rules about

766
00:34:36,413 --> 00:34:38,973
Speaker 23: it because you are playing with your life of the

767
00:34:39,053 --> 00:34:42,093
Speaker 23: other people and also be your also sometimes, so I

768
00:34:42,213 --> 00:34:44,573
Speaker 23: think the rules should be really strict. And I think

769
00:34:44,733 --> 00:34:47,413
Speaker 23: in New Zealand the rules are not strict because when

770
00:34:47,453 --> 00:34:50,533
Speaker 23: you receive a letter they say if you dispute this,

771
00:34:50,693 --> 00:34:53,933
Speaker 23: then you can write to us and do this and that,

772
00:34:54,533 --> 00:34:56,893
Speaker 23: But in that country they don't give you that right.

773
00:34:57,253 --> 00:35:00,853
Speaker 23: So I think so it's so it's the.

774
00:35:00,933 --> 00:35:03,253
Speaker 2: Law that if the police finds you talking on the

775
00:35:03,293 --> 00:35:05,933
Speaker 2: phone and they pull you over, they confiscate your phone.

776
00:35:05,973 --> 00:35:08,533
Speaker 2: That's just know that you have your phine I can

777
00:35:08,573 --> 00:35:10,853
Speaker 2: offer you and can you get can you get a bet?

778
00:35:10,933 --> 00:35:12,053
Speaker 2: Is there a period of time before you can get

779
00:35:12,053 --> 00:35:12,293
Speaker 2: it back?

780
00:35:13,333 --> 00:35:16,013
Speaker 23: Yeah, you can get it back after paying the fine.

781
00:35:16,733 --> 00:35:20,853
Speaker 23: And also if a young guy who is underage and

782
00:35:21,013 --> 00:35:24,253
Speaker 23: I saw that by myself, he was driving a car

783
00:35:24,373 --> 00:35:27,653
Speaker 23: and police came and asked him do you have a lot. No,

784
00:35:28,253 --> 00:35:31,053
Speaker 23: he was straight away handcuffed and taken away and the

785
00:35:31,133 --> 00:35:35,373
Speaker 23: car was left. So the rules should be implemented where

786
00:35:35,493 --> 00:35:39,773
Speaker 23: lives are in danger, and I think so the New

787
00:35:39,893 --> 00:35:42,853
Speaker 23: Zealand government should do that. And I also listened to

788
00:35:42,933 --> 00:35:46,093
Speaker 23: the previous guy. The Australian news are very tough because

789
00:35:46,133 --> 00:35:49,573
Speaker 23: I went to Queenstow, Queensland, and if you have a

790
00:35:49,693 --> 00:35:53,293
Speaker 23: heavy phone in your hand and then the camera catches you,

791
00:35:53,733 --> 00:35:54,493
Speaker 23: then you are done.

792
00:35:54,573 --> 00:35:56,173
Speaker 24: Mean do you have to be defined?

793
00:35:56,333 --> 00:35:59,493
Speaker 23: So I think so the define should be really hard,

794
00:36:00,373 --> 00:36:01,333
Speaker 23: so people should not.

795
00:36:01,413 --> 00:36:01,893
Speaker 9: Be doing that.

796
00:36:02,493 --> 00:36:04,693
Speaker 5: Yeah, stay a night that I muck around in the

797
00:36:04,693 --> 00:36:05,133
Speaker 5: middle ace.

798
00:36:05,213 --> 00:36:08,853
Speaker 2: That's how do you feel about that? Hundred it ten eight?

799
00:36:09,253 --> 00:36:13,172
Speaker 2: I mean it's always a bit of a balance. When

800
00:36:13,773 --> 00:36:17,893
Speaker 2: you're constantly getting filmed by the government. Yeah, and you know,

801
00:36:18,133 --> 00:36:19,693
Speaker 2: as long as as long as the stuff is just

802
00:36:19,853 --> 00:36:21,732
Speaker 2: used for what it's supposed to be used for. Yes,

803
00:36:21,853 --> 00:36:23,733
Speaker 2: if they're just bringing you for being on your phone,

804
00:36:23,853 --> 00:36:27,373
Speaker 2: then then that's okay. But if they start, they start,

805
00:36:28,573 --> 00:36:32,053
Speaker 2: I don't know, tracking you for other things, and then

806
00:36:32,093 --> 00:36:33,933
Speaker 2: it's a bit Then it gets a bit hairy, doesn't it.

807
00:36:34,013 --> 00:36:36,692
Speaker 2: It certainly does, Yeah, But I just it's just odd

808
00:36:36,733 --> 00:36:38,453
Speaker 2: for me that people can't work it out and not

809
00:36:38,613 --> 00:36:38,813
Speaker 2: do it.

810
00:36:40,173 --> 00:36:40,373
Speaker 22: Yeah.

811
00:36:40,533 --> 00:36:41,733
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been late.

812
00:36:41,813 --> 00:36:44,613
Speaker 4: I mean, you have taken it upon yourself to do

813
00:36:44,693 --> 00:36:47,493
Speaker 4: the raw dogging and to stop using your phone as

814
00:36:47,613 --> 00:36:49,493
Speaker 4: much as you need to, and that's a good thing.

815
00:36:50,053 --> 00:36:51,853
Speaker 4: But again, and you've said this many times over the

816
00:36:51,933 --> 00:36:55,172
Speaker 4: last hour, it is that that deep addiction that people

817
00:36:55,293 --> 00:36:57,453
Speaker 4: have to their phones. And I just think the majority

818
00:36:57,453 --> 00:36:58,973
Speaker 4: of them probably should be thinking if I do this,

819
00:36:59,093 --> 00:36:59,853
Speaker 4: or may kill someone.

820
00:37:00,053 --> 00:37:02,133
Speaker 2: But I don't know if they are. The six guys

821
00:37:02,173 --> 00:37:04,413
Speaker 2: eating a super hot mints and cheese pie, in my opinion,

822
00:37:04,533 --> 00:37:07,173
Speaker 2: is more dangerous than texting. I mean, I've had some

823
00:37:07,253 --> 00:37:09,893
Speaker 2: hairy situations eating. There was a you know, I don't

824
00:37:09,893 --> 00:37:12,853
Speaker 2: normally eat a vegetarian pie. But the Ponsonby Pious used

825
00:37:12,853 --> 00:37:16,133
Speaker 2: to do a fantastic spinach and cheese sounds pretty good.

826
00:37:16,213 --> 00:37:18,093
Speaker 2: It was fit it, but it also came with about

827
00:37:18,253 --> 00:37:21,373
Speaker 2: a liter of boiling water in it. So I remember

828
00:37:21,373 --> 00:37:23,413
Speaker 2: I was driving down Ponsby Road once took a bite

829
00:37:23,773 --> 00:37:27,253
Speaker 2: and it just unleashed hel down my face and down

830
00:37:27,293 --> 00:37:29,293
Speaker 2: the front of my shirt, and I was just screaming

831
00:37:29,733 --> 00:37:33,053
Speaker 2: in agony. And so I would agree that that's pretty dangerous,

832
00:37:33,173 --> 00:37:35,173
Speaker 2: and then that's why you don't eat vegetarian pies. But

833
00:37:35,573 --> 00:37:38,493
Speaker 2: also that particular pie, I don't think there's much more

834
00:37:38,573 --> 00:37:42,133
Speaker 2: dangerous than trying to drive drinking that is also drinking

835
00:37:42,173 --> 00:37:43,213
Speaker 2: that pie. There's a lot of water in it.

836
00:37:43,733 --> 00:37:46,453
Speaker 5: Yeah, that is a word of caution there, Roger. You

837
00:37:46,533 --> 00:37:47,573
Speaker 5: want to talk about bluetooth.

838
00:37:48,413 --> 00:37:52,652
Speaker 25: Yeah, actually I've got I'm listening on my cell phone

839
00:37:52,653 --> 00:37:55,812
Speaker 25: at the moment. I'm in my car, but I've actually

840
00:37:55,853 --> 00:37:57,933
Speaker 25: got the motor off and everything, so I'm talking on

841
00:37:58,013 --> 00:38:02,213
Speaker 25: my phone itself, not on Bluetooth, but it's I've been

842
00:38:02,293 --> 00:38:07,212
Speaker 25: driving along and I've received a call and all I've

843
00:38:07,213 --> 00:38:09,093
Speaker 25: got to do is press a button. I'm steering wheel

844
00:38:09,893 --> 00:38:12,533
Speaker 25: and I can keep watching the road and talking at

845
00:38:12,573 --> 00:38:17,573
Speaker 25: the same time. Yeah, I'm not taking my attention off

846
00:38:17,613 --> 00:38:20,573
Speaker 25: the road. And if I see anything starting to happen

847
00:38:20,653 --> 00:38:22,772
Speaker 25: on the road in front of me, I just center around.

848
00:38:22,973 --> 00:38:25,773
Speaker 25: Whoever's call him is a right standby. I got problems

849
00:38:25,813 --> 00:38:30,213
Speaker 25: coming up and Benga, no worries. But by the same token,

850
00:38:30,253 --> 00:38:34,053
Speaker 25: I've had a driver's license for what sixty seven years,

851
00:38:34,613 --> 00:38:38,693
Speaker 25: so you know, I've seen things come through.

852
00:38:38,653 --> 00:38:42,373
Speaker 26: That you know what eighty two year old see. And

853
00:38:43,533 --> 00:38:46,133
Speaker 26: this is one of the worst scourges I have seen

854
00:38:46,253 --> 00:38:51,933
Speaker 26: in New zeal in any country for that matter. Yeah, people,

855
00:38:52,573 --> 00:38:56,172
Speaker 26: you know, people texting and as what was his name,

856
00:38:56,173 --> 00:38:58,613
Speaker 26: I can't remember now, but Chap said, you know, the

857
00:38:58,693 --> 00:39:00,853
Speaker 26: truck driver said, you know the traffic lights in that

858
00:39:01,613 --> 00:39:02,893
Speaker 26: ninety times per cent of the time.

859
00:39:02,773 --> 00:39:03,253
Speaker 16: He look down.

860
00:39:03,493 --> 00:39:06,533
Speaker 25: Here's a bloody driver in the car beside you texting.

861
00:39:07,013 --> 00:39:10,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy, isn't it. And absolutely the technology is there.

862
00:39:10,893 --> 00:39:13,173
Speaker 2: And further to it, like if you've got an incredible

863
00:39:13,293 --> 00:39:16,573
Speaker 2: fomo to the point where you think that you need

864
00:39:16,613 --> 00:39:18,133
Speaker 2: to read a text just in case it's the most

865
00:39:18,133 --> 00:39:20,413
Speaker 2: important thing in the world, I mean, surely they'll call.

866
00:39:21,013 --> 00:39:23,933
Speaker 2: Surely if it's the worst If it's an emergency, something

867
00:39:24,013 --> 00:39:25,933
Speaker 2: that takes your attention to the point where you need

868
00:39:25,933 --> 00:39:29,133
Speaker 2: to look at it when you're driving. Then pull over

869
00:39:29,733 --> 00:39:33,172
Speaker 2: they'll ring yeah yeah, or pullover or they'll ring yeah.

870
00:39:33,453 --> 00:39:33,893
Speaker 5: Very true.

871
00:39:34,013 --> 00:39:36,733
Speaker 4: Yeah, good discussion. Thank you very much to everyone who

872
00:39:36,773 --> 00:39:38,933
Speaker 4: called in text on that one. I think it's pretty

873
00:39:38,973 --> 00:39:40,973
Speaker 4: clear that most people are saying we're going to do something,

874
00:39:42,013 --> 00:39:44,093
Speaker 4: So we'll wait to see what happens in that space.

875
00:39:44,213 --> 00:39:46,533
Speaker 4: But coming up after two o'clock, it is Mental Health

876
00:39:46,533 --> 00:39:50,413
Speaker 4: Awareness Week, always incredibly important, now more than ever. I

877
00:39:50,573 --> 00:39:52,692
Speaker 4: work in progress for a lot of us taking care

878
00:39:52,733 --> 00:39:54,573
Speaker 4: of the old mental health, so we can to hear

879
00:39:54,613 --> 00:39:57,973
Speaker 4: from people who have gone through some battles and come

880
00:39:58,053 --> 00:40:00,653
Speaker 4: out on the other side. And also a very special

881
00:40:00,693 --> 00:40:01,213
Speaker 4: guest coming in.

882
00:40:01,453 --> 00:40:04,172
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to talk to Harry Averill, who's wrote

883
00:40:04,173 --> 00:40:06,733
Speaker 2: a fantastic book called Hungry to Be Happy about his

884
00:40:07,173 --> 00:40:10,853
Speaker 2: battles with mental health. Anorexia in high school is a

885
00:40:10,893 --> 00:40:12,893
Speaker 2: great book and it'll be a great chat. And this

886
00:40:13,013 --> 00:40:14,973
Speaker 2: texta says, I don't think raw dogging means what you

887
00:40:15,013 --> 00:40:17,373
Speaker 2: think it does. Andy means multiple things.

888
00:40:17,493 --> 00:40:17,933
Speaker 22: Spot on.

889
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Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen Tyler Adams

890
00:40:24,053 --> 00:40:25,853
Speaker 1: Afternoons News Talks.

891
00:40:25,893 --> 00:40:28,773
Speaker 5: It'd be very good afternoon to you.

892
00:40:28,933 --> 00:40:31,732
Speaker 4: Welcome back into the program. It is six pass too.

893
00:40:32,093 --> 00:40:34,173
Speaker 4: It's going to be a very interesting hour. It is

894
00:40:34,293 --> 00:40:38,533
Speaker 4: Mental Health Awareness Week, and clearly that's an incredibly important

895
00:40:38,693 --> 00:40:41,133
Speaker 4: week and clearly work in progress for a lot of

896
00:40:41,213 --> 00:40:43,573
Speaker 4: keywi's out there who have gone through their own journeys

897
00:40:43,613 --> 00:40:45,973
Speaker 4: of mental health battles. And we're really going to hear

898
00:40:46,013 --> 00:40:47,533
Speaker 4: from you on O eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

899
00:40:47,533 --> 00:40:50,013
Speaker 4: if you've been through a mental health battle and come

900
00:40:50,093 --> 00:40:51,093
Speaker 4: out on the other side.

901
00:40:51,293 --> 00:40:52,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll be talking about a little bit on

902
00:40:52,653 --> 00:40:55,533
Speaker 2: this show. But I read this fantastic book by a

903
00:40:55,653 --> 00:40:59,693
Speaker 2: gentleman called Harry Everil and it's called Hungry to Be Happy.

904
00:41:00,213 --> 00:41:03,813
Speaker 2: And he's here, he's in the studio with us.

905
00:41:03,893 --> 00:41:05,933
Speaker 5: He certainly is get a hairy Nice to see you mate.

906
00:41:06,053 --> 00:41:07,293
Speaker 18: Good eight Yeah, thanks for having me.

907
00:41:07,813 --> 00:41:10,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, So let's get into your book and your and

908
00:41:10,093 --> 00:41:12,533
Speaker 2: your battle with mental health and then eight hundred and

909
00:41:12,533 --> 00:41:14,413
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty, because we wanted to talk about how

910
00:41:14,453 --> 00:41:16,813
Speaker 2: you get out the other end of it, because you know,

911
00:41:16,933 --> 00:41:18,973
Speaker 2: we've had quite a lot of discussions on this about

912
00:41:19,013 --> 00:41:21,973
Speaker 2: how it hits people. But the path out is really

913
00:41:22,013 --> 00:41:25,013
Speaker 2: the really the key. And that's what's one of the

914
00:41:25,053 --> 00:41:29,093
Speaker 2: great things about your book is it's epic. It's an

915
00:41:29,093 --> 00:41:32,933
Speaker 2: epic journey into into your mind. And at one point

916
00:41:32,973 --> 00:41:35,093
Speaker 2: you described it as the demon that got into your

917
00:41:35,333 --> 00:41:37,613
Speaker 2: got into your mind and part of your mind was

918
00:41:37,653 --> 00:41:40,853
Speaker 2: working against you, which and but you managed to fight

919
00:41:40,973 --> 00:41:43,652
Speaker 2: back against that part of your mind, which is which

920
00:41:44,253 --> 00:41:47,413
Speaker 2: it's incredible read, actually so great book. Tell us, Harry,

921
00:41:47,493 --> 00:41:51,133
Speaker 2: how your mental health struggle started, because it's probably different

922
00:41:51,293 --> 00:41:54,293
Speaker 2: than most people think. These these things happen.

923
00:41:54,773 --> 00:41:55,493
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.

924
00:41:55,613 --> 00:41:58,453
Speaker 18: Yeah, for me, it all started when I started high

925
00:41:58,453 --> 00:42:00,933
Speaker 18: school back in twenty thirteen, when I was year nine,

926
00:42:01,013 --> 00:42:05,533
Speaker 18: and I went to boarding school and made into this

927
00:42:05,693 --> 00:42:09,533
Speaker 18: running team and I'd never really been a runner before,

928
00:42:09,613 --> 00:42:13,013
Speaker 18: but kind of happened to be, you know, happened to

929
00:42:13,053 --> 00:42:14,453
Speaker 18: be one of the few who tried really hard on

930
00:42:14,453 --> 00:42:16,652
Speaker 18: these running races and made it in and I kind

931
00:42:16,693 --> 00:42:19,293
Speaker 18: of just got trapped and at that point it was

932
00:42:19,373 --> 00:42:22,292
Speaker 18: kind of really difficult to get myself out of the team.

933
00:42:22,973 --> 00:42:25,172
Speaker 18: Put a lot of pressure on myself, and it all

934
00:42:25,253 --> 00:42:27,893
Speaker 18: kind of started with just wanting to run faster and

935
00:42:27,973 --> 00:42:32,853
Speaker 18: be successful. And yeah, eventually it kind of turned into

936
00:42:33,293 --> 00:42:36,533
Speaker 18: this thing called anarexia, which I didn't know guys could

937
00:42:36,573 --> 00:42:43,053
Speaker 18: get let alone kind of happy, healthy, normal, Kiwi bokes.

938
00:42:43,573 --> 00:42:45,933
Speaker 18: It just wasn't something that even I thought of as

939
00:42:45,933 --> 00:42:48,533
Speaker 18: a possibility. So in a way that was kind of

940
00:42:48,653 --> 00:42:52,013
Speaker 18: my That had a big part to play the fact

941
00:42:52,013 --> 00:42:53,933
Speaker 18: that I didn't know what I was going through and

942
00:42:54,413 --> 00:42:56,413
Speaker 18: it kind of just snuck up on me. And I

943
00:42:56,533 --> 00:42:58,533
Speaker 18: think of it a wee bit like a bug, Like

944
00:42:58,653 --> 00:43:00,773
Speaker 18: I just caught a bug in the same way you

945
00:43:00,853 --> 00:43:01,373
Speaker 18: catch a cold.

946
00:43:01,693 --> 00:43:05,813
Speaker 2: Right, So the motivation really was that you wanted to

947
00:43:05,893 --> 00:43:08,333
Speaker 2: get faster, and you wanted to be more and more dissipate,

948
00:43:08,693 --> 00:43:10,893
Speaker 2: and you wanted to be successful. You were very focused.

949
00:43:11,133 --> 00:43:15,933
Speaker 2: You had an idealic childhood, adylic childhood running around great parents,

950
00:43:16,413 --> 00:43:19,453
Speaker 2: a couple of fantastic brothers. But you had this idea

951
00:43:19,533 --> 00:43:21,853
Speaker 2: in your head that that childhood was over. You're at

952
00:43:21,933 --> 00:43:24,413
Speaker 2: high school now. You needed to succeed. So you had

953
00:43:24,453 --> 00:43:27,093
Speaker 2: this app this huge ambition to succeed, and when it

954
00:43:27,133 --> 00:43:29,333
Speaker 2: came to running, it all all focused in on that

955
00:43:29,533 --> 00:43:32,173
Speaker 2: and you were like, to go faster. I need to

956
00:43:32,293 --> 00:43:35,373
Speaker 2: be thinner, and I need to exercide hard, and I

957
00:43:35,653 --> 00:43:37,533
Speaker 2: need to be more and more disciplined. Is that a

958
00:43:37,573 --> 00:43:39,533
Speaker 2: correct analysis, Yes, exactly.

959
00:43:39,613 --> 00:43:42,453
Speaker 18: Yeah, it was just kind of a chain of all

960
00:43:42,533 --> 00:43:45,893
Speaker 18: these misinterpretations. I kind of thought, you know, to run faster,

961
00:43:46,013 --> 00:43:48,172
Speaker 18: you have to be leaner, started losing a bit of weight,

962
00:43:48,253 --> 00:43:50,533
Speaker 18: started running faster because of all the training, And then

963
00:43:50,613 --> 00:43:53,453
Speaker 18: next minute I thought I had to keep getting skinnier

964
00:43:53,493 --> 00:43:55,653
Speaker 18: to keep getting faster. But it was kind of the opposite.

965
00:43:55,773 --> 00:43:56,013
Speaker 2: Yeah.

966
00:43:56,093 --> 00:43:58,333
Speaker 4: Right, So as a fourteen year old and you're in

967
00:43:58,413 --> 00:44:02,493
Speaker 4: that scenario and obviously you know something is not quite

968
00:44:02,693 --> 00:44:04,973
Speaker 4: right here, but you're not quite sure what it is.

969
00:44:05,093 --> 00:44:06,733
Speaker 4: I mean, did you face that, because it is an

970
00:44:06,773 --> 00:44:09,133
Speaker 4: incredible thing for anyone to go through, let alone a

971
00:44:09,253 --> 00:44:12,413
Speaker 4: fourteen year old fella dealing with this thing called anxiety.

972
00:44:13,293 --> 00:44:16,373
Speaker 4: How did you start to figure out, right, there's something

973
00:44:16,453 --> 00:44:19,213
Speaker 4: a lot more going on here than I might might

974
00:44:19,293 --> 00:44:20,133
Speaker 4: have thought of originally.

975
00:44:20,733 --> 00:44:23,093
Speaker 18: Yeah, Unfortunately, I kind of just thought it was all

976
00:44:23,133 --> 00:44:26,253
Speaker 18: part of growing up. Like I've been intermediate in primary

977
00:44:26,293 --> 00:44:29,973
Speaker 18: school and just had this really kind of perfect happy childhood,

978
00:44:30,133 --> 00:44:32,652
Speaker 18: and then arrived at high school things were a bit harder.

979
00:44:32,893 --> 00:44:34,853
Speaker 18: Wasn't feeling quite so happy, But I thought, maybe this

980
00:44:34,973 --> 00:44:36,533
Speaker 18: is just the price everyone has to pay if they

981
00:44:36,653 --> 00:44:39,853
Speaker 18: kind of want to achieve and be happy long term,

982
00:44:39,933 --> 00:44:42,253
Speaker 18: you know, get success and maybe a couple of decades

983
00:44:42,293 --> 00:44:44,373
Speaker 18: down the track, be happy. So I kind of just

984
00:44:45,093 --> 00:44:46,933
Speaker 18: let it slide. And then it got to the point

985
00:44:47,213 --> 00:44:49,133
Speaker 18: like it does for a lot of people, where you're

986
00:44:49,213 --> 00:44:51,093
Speaker 18: kind of stuck and you're in a rush and you

987
00:44:51,173 --> 00:44:51,973
Speaker 18: can't really get out.

988
00:44:53,013 --> 00:44:53,212
Speaker 11: Yeah.

989
00:44:53,413 --> 00:44:55,013
Speaker 2: Well, what's interesting about it is that you played a

990
00:44:55,013 --> 00:44:56,652
Speaker 2: lot of rugby, and you were playing in the front row,

991
00:44:57,133 --> 00:44:59,133
Speaker 2: and then you were moving back and wait, and then

992
00:44:59,333 --> 00:45:01,973
Speaker 2: as you lost this weight for the running, that was

993
00:45:01,973 --> 00:45:04,533
Speaker 2: a pretty clear indicator that you were losing the muscle

994
00:45:04,573 --> 00:45:08,613
Speaker 2: and size you needed to play footy exactly.

995
00:45:08,613 --> 00:45:11,653
Speaker 18: I would have been one of the leanest looking lockers

996
00:45:11,813 --> 00:45:15,693
Speaker 18: going around and rugby at the time. But Yeah, started

997
00:45:15,733 --> 00:45:18,933
Speaker 18: losing energy and was quite clearly getting slower, running a

998
00:45:19,013 --> 00:45:21,933
Speaker 18: lot worse at rugby, and just kind of a bit

999
00:45:21,973 --> 00:45:24,053
Speaker 18: of a shadow of who I was the year before.

1000
00:45:24,453 --> 00:45:29,453
Speaker 2: And it dives so fast and so hard, and you're

1001
00:45:29,453 --> 00:45:32,173
Speaker 2: at more Boys school, you're a border and then it

1002
00:45:32,293 --> 00:45:35,692
Speaker 2: just becomes untenable to the point where there's no other

1003
00:45:35,693 --> 00:45:39,013
Speaker 2: way to say it. It got within millimeters of killing you.

1004
00:45:39,773 --> 00:45:42,733
Speaker 18: Yeah, Yeah, and that's the scary thing about anorexia is

1005
00:45:42,773 --> 00:45:45,453
Speaker 18: that it's a physical disorder as much as it's a

1006
00:45:45,493 --> 00:45:48,613
Speaker 18: mental one. The mental ones are kind of gradual decline,

1007
00:45:48,653 --> 00:45:52,413
Speaker 18: the physical ones really sharp. And yeah, I got really

1008
00:45:52,493 --> 00:45:54,853
Speaker 18: lucky to get into hospital. It just in the nick

1009
00:45:54,893 --> 00:45:57,973
Speaker 18: of time, and was just lucky to have the amazing

1010
00:45:58,013 --> 00:46:00,893
Speaker 18: doctors and nurses who were there to keep me alive.

1011
00:46:00,973 --> 00:46:04,173
Speaker 18: And from that point, once I got the food on

1012
00:46:04,293 --> 00:46:06,373
Speaker 18: board and got the energy back, I could kind of

1013
00:46:06,413 --> 00:46:08,933
Speaker 18: start making progress myself mind.

1014
00:46:09,013 --> 00:46:09,212
Speaker 16: Yeah.

1015
00:46:09,293 --> 00:46:13,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, basically your heart was moments away from stopping.

1016
00:46:14,293 --> 00:46:14,533
Speaker 24: Yeah.

1017
00:46:14,693 --> 00:46:14,893
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1018
00:46:14,973 --> 00:46:17,733
Speaker 18: I memory is always a bit kind of hazy around

1019
00:46:17,773 --> 00:46:19,973
Speaker 18: that time, but I just remember it being pretty serious

1020
00:46:20,053 --> 00:46:26,172
Speaker 18: and yeah, lots of concern and yeah, to be honest, yeah,

1021
00:46:26,613 --> 00:46:28,893
Speaker 18: I suppose it's just luck. And you could say I

1022
00:46:28,933 --> 00:46:31,812
Speaker 18: should have been in hospital sooner, but yeah, just lucky

1023
00:46:31,853 --> 00:46:32,253
Speaker 18: to be here.

1024
00:46:32,413 --> 00:46:32,613
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1025
00:46:32,813 --> 00:46:34,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well we'll take a break and then when we

1026
00:46:35,053 --> 00:46:37,333
Speaker 2: come back, we'll talk about a little bit more about

1027
00:46:38,093 --> 00:46:41,613
Speaker 2: anorexia and also how you fought back with your with

1028
00:46:41,733 --> 00:46:46,013
Speaker 2: your mental health struggles to be very successful.

1029
00:46:46,133 --> 00:46:46,333
Speaker 16: Yeah.

1030
00:46:46,413 --> 00:46:46,893
Speaker 5: Absolutely.

1031
00:46:46,973 --> 00:46:49,333
Speaker 4: We are speaking to Harry Everell. He's written the book

1032
00:46:49,373 --> 00:46:51,173
Speaker 4: Hungry to Be Happy, and he's going to stick with

1033
00:46:51,333 --> 00:46:54,013
Speaker 4: us for a few more minutes. So there's thirteen past two.

1034
00:46:55,813 --> 00:47:00,693
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon Talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons.

1035
00:47:00,213 --> 00:47:03,013
Speaker 14: Call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty us Talk.

1036
00:47:02,853 --> 00:47:03,213
Speaker 2: Said, be.

1037
00:47:04,773 --> 00:47:07,293
Speaker 4: Afternoon to you. It's sixteen past two. It is mental

1038
00:47:07,333 --> 00:47:07,933
Speaker 4: health awareness.

1039
00:47:07,973 --> 00:47:08,213
Speaker 13: We can.

1040
00:47:08,373 --> 00:47:10,573
Speaker 4: We are joined by a great New Zealander. His name

1041
00:47:10,653 --> 00:47:12,893
Speaker 4: is Harry Everell. When he's written a book Hungry to

1042
00:47:13,013 --> 00:47:15,973
Speaker 4: Be Happy. Thanks very much for coming in, Harry, Thank

1043
00:47:16,013 --> 00:47:16,812
Speaker 4: you so Harry.

1044
00:47:16,893 --> 00:47:19,853
Speaker 2: When we left the story, you'd been very keen to

1045
00:47:19,933 --> 00:47:22,733
Speaker 2: be successful. You're a sporty young lad at an all

1046
00:47:22,813 --> 00:47:26,413
Speaker 2: boys school in Napier. You're a border and you decided

1047
00:47:26,413 --> 00:47:29,893
Speaker 2: to get really really good at running. Unfortunately, that ambition

1048
00:47:30,573 --> 00:47:35,773
Speaker 2: introduced anorexia into your life and it nearly killed you.

1049
00:47:36,013 --> 00:47:39,053
Speaker 2: And how long because you ended up losing your freedom

1050
00:47:39,093 --> 00:47:42,493
Speaker 2: because of this, you ended up being interned. Basically, didn't you?

1051
00:47:42,573 --> 00:47:44,533
Speaker 2: Is it in turned the word the word where they

1052
00:47:45,053 --> 00:47:47,413
Speaker 2: take you off your parents and they put you in

1053
00:47:47,453 --> 00:47:48,613
Speaker 2: a hospital that you can't leave.

1054
00:47:49,093 --> 00:47:50,973
Speaker 5: Yeah, Water of the State, I think, yeah, that's it.

1055
00:47:51,093 --> 00:47:51,253
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1056
00:47:51,333 --> 00:47:54,973
Speaker 18: Yeah. I was in hospital for four weeks and that

1057
00:47:55,173 --> 00:47:58,533
Speaker 18: was hospital hospital, like getting fed through a tuban getting

1058
00:47:58,573 --> 00:48:02,573
Speaker 18: the physical health back on track, and then yeah, that

1059
00:48:02,693 --> 00:48:05,253
Speaker 18: was pretty tough, obviously, And then got transferred down to

1060
00:48:06,053 --> 00:48:09,973
Speaker 18: psych Ward and Wellington and yeah, way and family and everyone,

1061
00:48:10,093 --> 00:48:13,813
Speaker 18: and that was for three months. And about the end

1062
00:48:13,813 --> 00:48:15,813
Speaker 18: of the second month down there, that was when I

1063
00:48:15,893 --> 00:48:19,573
Speaker 18: started to kind of turn a corner and finally start recovering.

1064
00:48:19,613 --> 00:48:21,292
Speaker 18: I suppose yeah, because.

1065
00:48:21,213 --> 00:48:23,573
Speaker 2: For a while, you know, they could feed you, but

1066
00:48:23,693 --> 00:48:26,252
Speaker 2: you were so determined on this thing, and you felt

1067
00:48:26,333 --> 00:48:30,133
Speaker 2: such guilt about putting on weight, and because that had

1068
00:48:30,173 --> 00:48:31,733
Speaker 2: gone into your head that that was success and that

1069
00:48:31,853 --> 00:48:34,973
Speaker 2: was discipline that you had to be watched twenty four

1070
00:48:35,013 --> 00:48:37,733
Speaker 2: hours because you were just tense up and bid like

1071
00:48:37,773 --> 00:48:39,493
Speaker 2: a board, wouldn't you so because you knew that that

1072
00:48:39,653 --> 00:48:44,013
Speaker 2: would that would expand energy, So you'd be like, okay,

1073
00:48:44,093 --> 00:48:46,172
Speaker 2: well you could force me to eat, you can put

1074
00:48:46,213 --> 00:48:48,053
Speaker 2: it down my nose or whatever, but I will just

1075
00:48:48,133 --> 00:48:52,773
Speaker 2: expend that energy just by tightening up. It must be.

1076
00:48:54,053 --> 00:48:56,853
Speaker 2: Can you see that mindset still? Can you understand that

1077
00:48:57,173 --> 00:48:58,773
Speaker 2: mindset now that you were at the other end.

1078
00:48:59,533 --> 00:49:01,493
Speaker 18: I kind of couldn't even see it at the time,

1079
00:49:01,613 --> 00:49:05,613
Speaker 18: how irrational it was. My mind was obviously just so malnourished,

1080
00:49:06,333 --> 00:49:09,613
Speaker 18: and my thought loops were so kind of entrenched at

1081
00:49:09,653 --> 00:49:11,732
Speaker 18: that point, I just there was no other option.

1082
00:49:11,933 --> 00:49:13,133
Speaker 2: It wasn't like it was a choice.

1083
00:49:13,173 --> 00:49:15,373
Speaker 18: It was like, in the same way that we have

1084
00:49:15,453 --> 00:49:17,813
Speaker 18: to breathe, that just felt like the only option for me,

1085
00:49:18,093 --> 00:49:20,853
Speaker 18: and everyone around me was kind of act digging as

1086
00:49:20,853 --> 00:49:22,453
Speaker 18: if it was crazy, and I kind of knew it was,

1087
00:49:22,573 --> 00:49:25,013
Speaker 18: but for me, it was like, there's no way out

1088
00:49:25,053 --> 00:49:25,253
Speaker 18: of us.

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00:49:26,133 --> 00:49:30,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you realized at some point that anorexia

1090
00:49:30,613 --> 00:49:34,013
Speaker 2: wasn't you, which is kind of hard to understand, but

1091
00:49:34,053 --> 00:49:37,173
Speaker 2: you explain it so well in the book Hungry to

1092
00:49:37,253 --> 00:49:40,533
Speaker 2: Be Happy, that you realized that part of your mind

1093
00:49:41,293 --> 00:49:44,333
Speaker 2: was an entity into itself that was trying to destroy you.

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00:49:45,053 --> 00:49:45,292
Speaker 10: Yeah.

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00:49:45,413 --> 00:49:48,253
Speaker 18: And I think everyone has a little voice at the

1096
00:49:48,293 --> 00:49:50,053
Speaker 18: back of them, you know, on their shoulder or something,

1097
00:49:50,293 --> 00:49:53,373
Speaker 18: kind of barking at waters at them sometimes, and sometimes

1098
00:49:53,453 --> 00:49:56,853
Speaker 18: that's what helps us succeed, because it's kind of motivating

1099
00:49:56,933 --> 00:49:59,973
Speaker 18: us to get up and do things and succeed and

1100
00:50:00,053 --> 00:50:02,813
Speaker 18: be the best versions of ourselves. But for me, it

1101
00:50:02,973 --> 00:50:05,573
Speaker 18: kind of just got out of control and that and

1102
00:50:05,693 --> 00:50:09,693
Speaker 18: a critic just went, hey, iron was kind of the

1103
00:50:09,733 --> 00:50:12,013
Speaker 18: only voice I started hearing in my head, and it

1104
00:50:12,093 --> 00:50:14,693
Speaker 18: all felt like it was me thinking these thoughts that

1105
00:50:14,773 --> 00:50:18,213
Speaker 18: I need to stop eating and exercise and all this

1106
00:50:18,373 --> 00:50:21,653
Speaker 18: kind of thing. But yeah, just completely took control and

1107
00:50:21,733 --> 00:50:24,253
Speaker 18: there wasn't a kind of way to fight back against it.

1108
00:50:24,773 --> 00:50:26,973
Speaker 2: It was interesting when you did fight it back against it,

1109
00:50:27,173 --> 00:50:30,493
Speaker 2: you had to get into a dialogue in your own mind.

1110
00:50:30,933 --> 00:50:33,893
Speaker 2: So anorexia was telling you to do things, and you're going,

1111
00:50:33,933 --> 00:50:36,933
Speaker 2: hang on a minute, that doesn't make any sense. This

1112
00:50:37,093 --> 00:50:39,373
Speaker 2: isn't going to make my life better, It's going to

1113
00:50:39,413 --> 00:50:39,853
Speaker 2: make it worse.

1114
00:50:39,973 --> 00:50:41,173
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, exactly.

1115
00:50:41,373 --> 00:50:45,453
Speaker 18: And it seemed almost crazy at the time, kind of

1116
00:50:45,493 --> 00:50:48,013
Speaker 18: ironically that I had to start having this conversation with

1117
00:50:48,093 --> 00:50:50,893
Speaker 18: myself in my head to get through it. But as

1118
00:50:50,933 --> 00:50:54,693
Speaker 18: soon as I started differentiating my thoughts, my happy, healthy

1119
00:50:54,773 --> 00:50:58,453
Speaker 18: thoughts to this anorexic thing that the doctors told me

1120
00:50:58,493 --> 00:51:00,413
Speaker 18: I had, that was when I started being able to

1121
00:51:00,493 --> 00:51:02,613
Speaker 18: kind of objectively fight back against it.

1122
00:51:03,333 --> 00:51:06,293
Speaker 4: Did that journey take time when you realized that situation

1123
00:51:06,533 --> 00:51:09,213
Speaker 4: and that work to talk again that critic? Can you

1124
00:51:09,293 --> 00:51:11,493
Speaker 4: hear and figure out that this is that almost another

1125
00:51:11,733 --> 00:51:14,413
Speaker 4: entity saying these things that aren't through What did that

1126
00:51:14,613 --> 00:51:17,652
Speaker 4: journy look like in terms of a timeframe, probably a.

1127
00:51:17,693 --> 00:51:21,253
Speaker 18: Couple of yeah, two or three months, and working with

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00:51:21,693 --> 00:51:24,813
Speaker 18: clinical psychologists who were telling me that this was a

1129
00:51:24,853 --> 00:51:26,772
Speaker 18: different part of me that I don't need to fight,

1130
00:51:27,933 --> 00:51:31,573
Speaker 18: and eventually, I suppose, just with time and with strength

1131
00:51:31,653 --> 00:51:34,733
Speaker 18: and energy getting feedback into me, I kind of got

1132
00:51:34,773 --> 00:51:37,933
Speaker 18: the strength to start. And then a few weeks later

1133
00:51:38,253 --> 00:51:41,733
Speaker 18: I kind of turned this massive corner and flick the switch,

1134
00:51:41,773 --> 00:51:44,333
Speaker 18: I suppose, and from that point things have just been

1135
00:51:44,373 --> 00:51:45,053
Speaker 18: onwards and upwards.

1136
00:51:45,213 --> 00:51:46,173
Speaker 5: All right, amazing.

1137
00:51:46,373 --> 00:51:48,693
Speaker 2: We take a break and come back with Harry and

1138
00:51:49,373 --> 00:51:50,413
Speaker 2: the happy part of the story.

1139
00:51:50,453 --> 00:51:53,653
Speaker 4: Absolutely, We're really enjoying this conversation Harry. We are speaking

1140
00:51:53,693 --> 00:51:55,813
Speaker 4: to Harry Everel here is the author of Hungry to

1141
00:51:55,973 --> 00:51:58,373
Speaker 4: Be Happy. We are going to take a quick break

1142
00:51:58,413 --> 00:52:00,973
Speaker 4: and come back with Harry. It is twenty past two.

1143
00:52:00,973 --> 00:52:02,453
Speaker 4: You're listening to Matt and Tyler. Hope you having a

1144
00:52:02,493 --> 00:52:03,053
Speaker 4: good afternoon.

1145
00:52:08,933 --> 00:52:12,613
Speaker 1: Matt, Heathan Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

1146
00:52:12,693 --> 00:52:15,293
Speaker 1: ten eighty on Youth Talk ZIB afternoon.

1147
00:52:15,333 --> 00:52:17,613
Speaker 4: It is Mental Health Awareness Week and we are joined

1148
00:52:17,693 --> 00:52:20,173
Speaker 4: by Harry Averil. He's a great New Zealand d and

1149
00:52:20,213 --> 00:52:22,733
Speaker 4: he's written a book called Hungry to be happy his

1150
00:52:22,973 --> 00:52:25,693
Speaker 4: journey with coming through on the other side after battling

1151
00:52:25,773 --> 00:52:26,533
Speaker 4: with anorexia.

1152
00:52:26,773 --> 00:52:29,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it is mental Health Awareness weeks this timely

1153
00:52:30,133 --> 00:52:33,773
Speaker 2: chat with this gentleman. So you've worked out you've got this.

1154
00:52:34,453 --> 00:52:39,212
Speaker 2: As the neuroscientist Ethan what doesn't Ethan cross yet called

1155
00:52:39,253 --> 00:52:42,333
Speaker 2: it the inner asshole. Sometimes we create an inner asshole

1156
00:52:42,373 --> 00:52:44,172
Speaker 2: on our head that's just going at us and it's

1157
00:52:44,253 --> 00:52:46,253
Speaker 2: part of us, but it's trying to destroy us. So

1158
00:52:46,333 --> 00:52:51,013
Speaker 2: you managed to differentiate yourself from anorexia and start fighting back.

1159
00:52:51,053 --> 00:52:53,893
Speaker 2: And that was about two months after you'd been incarcerated

1160
00:52:53,973 --> 00:52:56,373
Speaker 2: basically in a psych ward in Wellington, away from your

1161
00:52:56,573 --> 00:52:59,333
Speaker 2: family with a twenty four hour surveillance to make sure

1162
00:52:59,373 --> 00:53:03,733
Speaker 2: you didn't exercise yourself to death. And so tell us

1163
00:53:03,773 --> 00:53:07,893
Speaker 2: about the after that and how you came back and

1164
00:53:07,933 --> 00:53:10,813
Speaker 2: the sixth is that you've since experienced especially at school.

1165
00:53:11,293 --> 00:53:11,493
Speaker 17: Yeah.

1166
00:53:11,573 --> 00:53:13,893
Speaker 18: So I was kind of sitting there three meals a

1167
00:53:13,973 --> 00:53:16,493
Speaker 18: day at this psych ward and this played a food

1168
00:53:16,493 --> 00:53:19,893
Speaker 18: in front of me and I just slowly started fighting

1169
00:53:19,933 --> 00:53:22,973
Speaker 18: back against these thoughts and realizing that it wasn't me

1170
00:53:23,213 --> 00:53:26,772
Speaker 18: and it was someone else, and I started objectively looking

1171
00:53:26,773 --> 00:53:28,053
Speaker 18: at it, you know, like I need to eat. I

1172
00:53:28,133 --> 00:53:29,772
Speaker 18: want my life back, I want to be happy again.

1173
00:53:30,053 --> 00:53:31,893
Speaker 18: I need to eat. This is just means to an end,

1174
00:53:32,013 --> 00:53:35,013
Speaker 18: and eventually it'll be easy. And so I did that,

1175
00:53:35,133 --> 00:53:37,893
Speaker 18: and then eventually I kind of had this epiphany one day,

1176
00:53:38,013 --> 00:53:41,253
Speaker 18: sitting there in the pyche ward that I was just

1177
00:53:41,373 --> 00:53:42,653
Speaker 18: angry and I'd had enough of it.

1178
00:53:42,733 --> 00:53:43,653
Speaker 2: I was so sick of it.

1179
00:53:43,813 --> 00:53:46,493
Speaker 18: My life sucked objectively.

1180
00:53:46,533 --> 00:53:49,853
Speaker 2: So it doesn't get much more sucky than the position

1181
00:53:49,933 --> 00:53:50,293
Speaker 2: you were in.

1182
00:53:50,653 --> 00:53:53,733
Speaker 18: No, And you know, my mates were there at school,

1183
00:53:53,853 --> 00:53:56,093
Speaker 18: still growing up and doing this cool stuff. And there

1184
00:53:56,133 --> 00:53:59,173
Speaker 18: here I was, you know, away from my family and friends,

1185
00:53:59,213 --> 00:54:01,453
Speaker 18: and I just at that point I had all the

1186
00:54:01,533 --> 00:54:05,573
Speaker 18: motivation I needed. In a way, I was lucky for

1187
00:54:05,773 --> 00:54:08,613
Speaker 18: things to turn so badly that I had no voice

1188
00:54:08,653 --> 00:54:12,173
Speaker 18: but to start getting better. And from that point it

1189
00:54:12,333 --> 00:54:15,893
Speaker 18: was just onwards and upwards, and fighting those thoughts got

1190
00:54:15,973 --> 00:54:18,693
Speaker 18: easier from that point because I was just so angry

1191
00:54:18,733 --> 00:54:20,493
Speaker 18: at what it had taken from me. Yeah.

1192
00:54:20,773 --> 00:54:22,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, And as you said, you didn't know that anorexia

1193
00:54:23,093 --> 00:54:26,413
Speaker 2: is something that can happen to males. And being a

1194
00:54:26,493 --> 00:54:28,973
Speaker 2: rugby playing dude in all boys school did it make

1195
00:54:28,973 --> 00:54:32,253
Speaker 2: it harder to admit your problems, you know, especially in

1196
00:54:32,333 --> 00:54:35,453
Speaker 2: illness that's as misunderstood as anorexia.

1197
00:54:36,013 --> 00:54:38,973
Speaker 18: Yeah, definitely, And the whole exercise component of it is

1198
00:54:40,373 --> 00:54:43,613
Speaker 18: probably more common with males. And that's maybe why I

1199
00:54:43,853 --> 00:54:46,693
Speaker 18: slipped through the cracks at school and didn't get picked up.

1200
00:54:47,013 --> 00:54:48,573
Speaker 18: And that's why I wrote the book to kind of

1201
00:54:49,693 --> 00:54:52,493
Speaker 18: to raise awareness that guys can get it too, because

1202
00:54:52,533 --> 00:54:54,573
Speaker 18: I think if it had been picked up sooner, it

1203
00:54:54,653 --> 00:54:56,693
Speaker 18: would have been a lot easier to turn things around.

1204
00:54:57,653 --> 00:55:00,453
Speaker 18: But yeah, it's yeah, it's strange to look back and

1205
00:55:00,653 --> 00:55:03,413
Speaker 18: to think how bad things got, but I am grateful

1206
00:55:03,573 --> 00:55:05,853
Speaker 18: for it in a way because it's kind of made

1207
00:55:05,933 --> 00:55:08,252
Speaker 18: my mind such a nice place to be today.

1208
00:55:08,733 --> 00:55:12,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting. What's the one thing that because you know,

1209
00:55:13,573 --> 00:55:16,933
Speaker 2: everyone has their mental health struggles, but most of us

1210
00:55:16,973 --> 00:55:19,533
Speaker 2: don't end up in a site cord, so you've seen,

1211
00:55:19,693 --> 00:55:22,613
Speaker 2: you've seen how how intense it can get. So what's

1212
00:55:22,653 --> 00:55:26,692
Speaker 2: the one thing that you think people misunderstand about mental health?

1213
00:55:26,733 --> 00:55:29,252
Speaker 2: In your book, you call it mind health because because

1214
00:55:29,253 --> 00:55:31,533
Speaker 2: you want to change change the discussion on it. But

1215
00:55:31,613 --> 00:55:33,853
Speaker 2: what's the thing you think that people most misunderstand.

1216
00:55:34,733 --> 00:55:39,773
Speaker 18: I think the whole kind of misconception that that if

1217
00:55:39,813 --> 00:55:42,293
Speaker 18: you've got a mental illness, maybe you're lazy, or you're

1218
00:55:43,013 --> 00:55:46,093
Speaker 18: you're not fighting. For me, it was the opposite, you know.

1219
00:55:46,133 --> 00:55:49,373
Speaker 18: It was because I was so disciplined and strong world

1220
00:55:49,893 --> 00:55:52,293
Speaker 18: I didn't even allow myself to rest and I just

1221
00:55:52,373 --> 00:55:56,013
Speaker 18: exercized all the time and didn't so I to use

1222
00:55:56,093 --> 00:55:59,533
Speaker 18: that same well in a way to turn it around.

1223
00:56:00,093 --> 00:56:02,013
Speaker 18: And for me, it was a switch in my mind

1224
00:56:02,093 --> 00:56:06,213
Speaker 18: of instead of putting success as the priority the whole time,

1225
00:56:06,293 --> 00:56:09,413
Speaker 18: it had to be happiness. And once I made that switch,

1226
00:56:10,453 --> 00:56:13,893
Speaker 18: priority shifted and life just got a whole lot easier.

1227
00:56:14,013 --> 00:56:16,773
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's beautifully said. Is it an ongoing thing? You've

1228
00:56:16,813 --> 00:56:20,013
Speaker 4: got that toolbox obviously that that you can utilize, And

1229
00:56:20,133 --> 00:56:21,533
Speaker 4: I know there'll be a lot of people listening out

1230
00:56:21,533 --> 00:56:24,453
Speaker 4: there that that it is an ongoing journey for them

1231
00:56:24,613 --> 00:56:27,293
Speaker 4: to remain in that good mindset. Is that the same

1232
00:56:27,333 --> 00:56:27,733
Speaker 4: for yourself?

1233
00:56:28,293 --> 00:56:28,493
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1234
00:56:28,573 --> 00:56:31,093
Speaker 18: I think having gone through something like that at such

1235
00:56:31,093 --> 00:56:33,493
Speaker 18: a young age as an advantage in a way, because

1236
00:56:33,493 --> 00:56:37,093
Speaker 18: it's given me this whole toolbox of strategies and things

1237
00:56:37,173 --> 00:56:40,493
Speaker 18: that I have in place that prevent me from ever

1238
00:56:40,653 --> 00:56:42,773
Speaker 18: getting to that place again. And I'm quite confident that

1239
00:56:42,813 --> 00:56:46,933
Speaker 18: it will never happen again. But yeah, it's an ongoing

1240
00:56:47,013 --> 00:56:49,493
Speaker 18: thing for everyone. It's not like you can get this

1241
00:56:49,693 --> 00:56:52,653
Speaker 18: really good level of happiness and mind health and that's it.

1242
00:56:52,853 --> 00:56:55,413
Speaker 18: It's a constant work on and putting the things in

1243
00:56:55,493 --> 00:56:58,893
Speaker 18: place in your kind of lifestyle to to be happy

1244
00:56:58,973 --> 00:57:00,733
Speaker 18: and the best version of yourself that you can be.

1245
00:57:00,933 --> 00:57:04,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, good on your mate. And it's it's

1246
00:57:04,573 --> 00:57:07,093
Speaker 2: a harrowing story, but it's a fantastic story and it's

1247
00:57:07,253 --> 00:57:09,893
Speaker 2: and you know, you've done such a good job putting

1248
00:57:09,933 --> 00:57:11,573
Speaker 2: it together and putting down your thoughts in a way

1249
00:57:11,653 --> 00:57:16,653
Speaker 2: that I personally just found explained explain things in a

1250
00:57:16,693 --> 00:57:19,893
Speaker 2: way I've never really heard them explain before. So it's

1251
00:57:19,933 --> 00:57:23,053
Speaker 2: a great book, Hungary to Be Happy by Harry Everall.

1252
00:57:23,093 --> 00:57:24,613
Speaker 2: And we've got a couple of copies to give away.

1253
00:57:24,773 --> 00:57:27,413
Speaker 4: Yes, So if you want a copy of Harry's book,

1254
00:57:27,493 --> 00:57:30,533
Speaker 4: he is generously donating a couple of copies. So all

1255
00:57:30,533 --> 00:57:33,613
Speaker 4: you got to do is text your full name, email

1256
00:57:33,653 --> 00:57:35,813
Speaker 4: address and a phone number and we'll get in touch

1257
00:57:35,853 --> 00:57:37,973
Speaker 4: and make sure that a couple of copies of that

1258
00:57:38,093 --> 00:57:40,253
Speaker 4: book will be coming your way. So nine to nine

1259
00:57:40,293 --> 00:57:41,453
Speaker 4: till it is the text number, and.

1260
00:57:41,773 --> 00:57:43,213
Speaker 2: Harry and I are having a bit of a chat

1261
00:57:43,293 --> 00:57:46,213
Speaker 2: in hawks Bay on Sunday that you can come along to.

1262
00:57:46,413 --> 00:57:49,493
Speaker 2: It's part of the Hawks Bay Readers and Writers' Festival.

1263
00:57:50,573 --> 00:57:55,373
Speaker 2: It's on Sunday at twelve pm at Arts Inc. In

1264
00:57:55,453 --> 00:57:59,133
Speaker 2: the right whack in the middle of Hastings and there's

1265
00:57:59,133 --> 00:58:03,253
Speaker 2: still some tickets available for that, so I guess google

1266
00:58:03,293 --> 00:58:06,293
Speaker 2: that Hawks Bay Readers and Writers and the Festival. We've

1267
00:58:06,293 --> 00:58:09,373
Speaker 2: also got Sam the Trapman coming on who's also written

1268
00:58:09,693 --> 00:58:12,933
Speaker 2: a fantastic book and he dealt with his mental health

1269
00:58:12,973 --> 00:58:16,213
Speaker 2: issues by just heading out into the wilderness and killing

1270
00:58:16,253 --> 00:58:16,773
Speaker 2: a lot of deer.

1271
00:58:17,213 --> 00:58:18,333
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, good man, and.

1272
00:58:18,373 --> 00:58:20,613
Speaker 2: That absolutely worked for him. So it's called Healing and

1273
00:58:20,733 --> 00:58:25,813
Speaker 2: Recovery at the hawks Bay Readers and Writers Festival on Sunday.

1274
00:58:25,933 --> 00:58:29,333
Speaker 2: Come along and you can ask some questions of Harry.

1275
00:58:29,453 --> 00:58:31,373
Speaker 4: Yep, that's going to be a great event. Harry, you're

1276
00:58:31,413 --> 00:58:33,173
Speaker 4: a great man. Thank you very much for coming in.

1277
00:58:33,253 --> 00:58:35,893
Speaker 4: Congratulations on the book and go well with the event.

1278
00:58:35,973 --> 00:58:36,893
Speaker 4: But really nice to see you.

1279
00:58:37,053 --> 00:58:37,333
Speaker 8: Thank you.

1280
00:58:37,493 --> 00:58:38,213
Speaker 18: Yeah, cheers for having me.

1281
00:58:39,013 --> 00:58:41,533
Speaker 4: That is Harry Everell. Please go check out his book.

1282
00:58:41,533 --> 00:58:44,093
Speaker 4: It's called Hungry to Be Happy. Go buy it, give

1283
00:58:44,093 --> 00:58:45,293
Speaker 4: it a read. And the audio book I.

1284
00:58:45,293 --> 00:58:48,693
Speaker 5: Think has just been released as well, right, yeah on Spotify. Yeah, yeah, lovely.

1285
00:58:48,933 --> 00:58:49,493
Speaker 2: It's a good read.

1286
00:58:49,573 --> 00:58:49,773
Speaker 18: Yeap.

1287
00:58:49,813 --> 00:58:52,093
Speaker 2: His mum comes in and does his mums, but mum's

1288
00:58:52,093 --> 00:58:53,733
Speaker 2: a good like that. I haven't heard that in an

1289
00:58:53,773 --> 00:58:54,533
Speaker 2: audio book before.

1290
00:58:54,653 --> 00:58:57,213
Speaker 4: Yeah, love it, Harry, you're a good man. We'll catch

1291
00:58:57,253 --> 00:59:01,533
Speaker 4: up again soon as twenty nine pass too. We are

1292
00:59:01,693 --> 00:59:03,893
Speaker 4: taking your stories as well, oh, eight hundred and eighty

1293
00:59:04,013 --> 00:59:06,053
Speaker 4: ten eighty as part of Mental Health Awareness Week.

1294
00:59:06,493 --> 00:59:07,333
Speaker 5: We're keen to hear from you.

1295
00:59:07,373 --> 00:59:09,773
Speaker 4: If you've gone through your own battles with mental health

1296
00:59:09,773 --> 00:59:11,453
Speaker 4: and you've come out on the other side, give us

1297
00:59:11,453 --> 00:59:11,773
Speaker 4: a buzz.

1298
00:59:11,893 --> 00:59:14,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, how did you get out of that dark place?

1299
00:59:15,453 --> 00:59:15,653
Speaker 13: Wow?

1300
00:59:17,173 --> 00:59:20,693
Speaker 19: You talks ap headlines with blue Bubble Taxis. It's no

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Speaker 19: trouble with a blue bubble Labor claims. The government's planning

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Speaker 19: to sell the family silver is at mahls, selling at

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Speaker 19: sixty one percent stake in Telco infrastructure company CORUS. US

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Speaker 19: troops will be sent to Israel to help with the

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Speaker 19: cease fire, now agreed by the country's cabinet, with details

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Speaker 19: still being worked out. An international security force will be

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Speaker 19: made up of soldiers from Egypt. Cutter Turkey and the

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Speaker 19: United Arab Emirates. A Gusbon nineteen year old's been charged

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Speaker 19: with causing harm by posting digital communications over death threats

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Speaker 19: made on social media against an MP in March. Police

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Speaker 19: say more arrests are lightly The Key we elder of

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Speaker 19: controversial home based global church two by twos has stepped

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Speaker 19: down and is returning to Australia. The FBI last year

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Speaker 19: investigated former members allegations of sexual abuse. State Highway seven

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Speaker 19: remains closed between Springs Junction and reefed And on the

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Speaker 19: West Coast, and State Highway's sixty seven is closed from

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Speaker 19: Mukhnui to kutamere Bluffs due to a slip. Mega School split.

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Speaker 19: Mount Albert Grammar proposes dividing into two find out more

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Speaker 19: at ensaid Herald Premium back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Ray Lean. So what a great

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Speaker 4: conversation with an amazing young man, Harry Averell. And we

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Speaker 4: mentioned before Harry has generously offered up a couple of

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Speaker 4: copies of his book Hungry to be happy to give away.

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Speaker 4: And boy oh boy, we've had so many texts come through,

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Speaker 4: so we will pick a couple of winners. For that book,

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Speaker 4: but urge you to go and check it out. Hungry

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Speaker 4: to Be Happy by Harry Everell. Matt, you've read it

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Speaker 4: and it is a phenomenal story.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's greatton, it's great read and it's also a

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Speaker 2: great listen. So that there's allaly a book on Spotify

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 4: Yep, great staff. Right, we are taking your calls on

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Speaker 4: eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Of course we got here

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Speaker 4: Harry and tab A chat because it is Mental Health

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Speaker 4: Awareness Week and this is always a huge thing. It's

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Speaker 4: important that this week is promoted because it is a

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Speaker 4: big issue for a lot of kiwis out there that

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Speaker 4: ongoing jo need to take care of our own mental health.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you want to be able to climb out

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Speaker 2: of it, so we want to hear your stories. Eight

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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you've managed to climb

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Speaker 2: out of a terrible spot with your mental health and

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Speaker 2: back to back to the light, then we'd love to

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Speaker 2: hear from you, or if someone in your family or

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Speaker 2: a friend has been through it and how they got

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Speaker 2: out the other side. O. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 2: is the number.

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Speaker 5: Yep, really keen to hear your stories. It is twenty

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Speaker 5: five to three.

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Speaker 2: Guy, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, good afternoon. I've already been liking to married Deeka.

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01:02:03,653 --> 01:02:09,013
Speaker 20: I've suffered bipolar, the sort of a probably years now.

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Speaker 20: I'll give you a bit of a history. I was

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Speaker 20: twenty six when I failed union at Otargo because I

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Speaker 20: just drank booze and played rugby and I were really

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Speaker 20: the president and didn't get any counseling, didn't just drink

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Speaker 20: more blah blah blah blah. Later that year, I broke

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Speaker 20: my neck long story cuts short concussion head and drink

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Speaker 20: and stress does not go well. So made the breakdown

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Speaker 20: in Pari River for a couple of months, came out

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Speaker 20: of there, still wouldn't accept counseling or medication. I just

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Speaker 20: got really fits. About twenty years ago I was diagnosed

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Speaker 20: by polar went through the public system, which I must

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Speaker 20: say was good. And ten years ago I tried to

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Speaker 20: take my life. I took a serious overdose of medication

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Speaker 20: of anti the presants and lucky to live, and so

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Speaker 20: said us. She's been a battle, but medications important and

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Speaker 20: talking is important. You might have heard of a lady

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Speaker 20: called Jazz Thornton. Yes, she campaigned with me because of

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Speaker 20: my age. I'm sixty five now, not many me and

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Speaker 20: my aides are keen to come out and talk about

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Speaker 20: mental health. Is sissy still, you know? And my opinion

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01:03:34,973 --> 01:03:38,733
Speaker 20: is Mike King, John Kern's okay to reach out. But

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Speaker 20: you can ask me a question if.

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Speaker 10: You like that.

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Speaker 4: Well, absolutely, guy, And I'm so glad you're still with

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Speaker 4: us and you've pushed her on the other side. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: after what happened ten years ago and then you realize

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Speaker 4: that talking does help and you've got the right medication.

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Speaker 4: So what did that journey to being able to talk

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Speaker 4: openly about what was going on with you?

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Speaker 5: How did that look like? And who were you talking to?

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Speaker 20: Okay? I was seeing a psychiatrist in the Adoda who

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Speaker 20: and the guy he was good that psychiatrists are not

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Speaker 20: a counselor. They just do the meds and which I

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Speaker 20: finally accepted taking medications. Ended up singing counselor at Dela

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Speaker 20: Cell College, quite a DICIL college in South Auckland. He

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Speaker 20: was fantastic. I had five councils. I went through it.

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Speaker 20: I could gail with this guy and he gave me

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Speaker 20: coping skills to get out of that peak dark Dungeon mhmm.

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Speaker 2: And what what was What were the basic coping skills

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Speaker 2: that he gave you go.

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Speaker 20: Well, things that I enjoyed, like walking. We all know

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Speaker 20: the benefits of exercise by groiche, And after that episode

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Speaker 20: I acigram five six half marathons and indorphins sort of thing.

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Speaker 20: But and then he was great, like things like walking,

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Speaker 20: what I enjoyed doing, going up for a coffee of friends,

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Speaker 20: maybe seeing a movie, going out in the boat. Just

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Speaker 20: things that you enjoy to give your spirits a bit

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Speaker 20: of a lift. Insteed of this staying at home within

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Speaker 20: four walls, which I've been very guilty of. When I

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Speaker 20: get low, I don't reach out still. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 20: all my friends have known what I've been through the

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Speaker 20: last twenty years, and I think they must get sick

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Speaker 20: of it. But everyone's don't, of course. But just as

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Speaker 20: though when I'm low, I punish myself still, you know

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Speaker 20: what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and yourself do you know? So do you know

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Speaker 2: when the when the lowness is coming on? And when

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Speaker 2: it is, do you find that that you can you

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Speaker 2: can fight back by doing more of the walking and

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Speaker 2: doing more of the you know, going out and spending

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Speaker 2: time with you, to your friends. Can you sort of

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Speaker 2: head it off? Is it coming across you?

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Speaker 20: No, that's the interesting thing. Talked about having a low

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01:06:02,413 --> 01:06:08,573
Speaker 20: before I ten to punish myself even more mean myself up.

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Speaker 20: You know, I might have spent some money or done

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01:06:12,093 --> 01:06:15,933
Speaker 20: something stupid when I was on a high. No, I don't,

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Speaker 20: and I still don't when.

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Speaker 18: I'm on a logos.

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Speaker 20: You know, I've got this disorder and I accepted it's

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01:06:23,253 --> 01:06:27,613
Speaker 20: just an illness in medication. I've tried mucking around with

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Speaker 20: that and that was very, very dangerous. So I'll never

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01:06:32,453 --> 01:06:37,213
Speaker 20: give up meds. You know, people have said try medicinal marijuana,

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Speaker 20: but as Miss Chritis said, there's no vin no tests

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Speaker 20: on that. So so but yeah, eventually I get out

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Speaker 20: a thick, dark black onndon that I've done, and I've

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Speaker 20: caught it with a black dog hanging on. It's like,

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01:06:52,453 --> 01:06:56,213
Speaker 20: as I've got to have a solution to an issue

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Speaker 20: which took me down, and I can go down overnight.

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01:07:00,133 --> 01:07:02,413
Speaker 20: You know, I can be happy one day and then

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01:07:02,653 --> 01:07:04,613
Speaker 20: by the morning, I just don't want to get out

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Speaker 20: of bed.

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Speaker 2: When you when you're not in that state of mind, guy,

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01:07:10,093 --> 01:07:12,853
Speaker 2: is that and I've sort of, you know, heard this

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01:07:12,973 --> 01:07:16,333
Speaker 2: from people, and my own experience is that it's hard

1437
01:07:16,413 --> 01:07:18,813
Speaker 2: to actually picture. It doesn't quite make sense when you're

1438
01:07:18,853 --> 01:07:21,093
Speaker 2: out of it, but when you get that we get

1439
01:07:21,133 --> 01:07:24,573
Speaker 2: down into that dark hole, it makes sense. It's hard

1440
01:07:24,613 --> 01:07:28,173
Speaker 2: to equate the two mindsets totally.

1441
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Speaker 20: And I agree, and I feel so happy when I

1442
01:07:33,133 --> 01:07:35,213
Speaker 20: first get out of that hole. Probably go a but

1443
01:07:35,373 --> 01:07:38,853
Speaker 20: high and misle, you know, And that's where the medication

1444
01:07:39,093 --> 01:07:42,733
Speaker 20: comes in to keep me on a steady platform, so

1445
01:07:43,413 --> 01:07:44,293
Speaker 20: he's still.

1446
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Speaker 5: Able to do the running guy and those things get out.

1447
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Speaker 2: On the boat.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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01:07:49,333 --> 01:07:51,613
Speaker 20: I saw a jet ski and a Harley, and I mustang.

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Speaker 26: I think that's enough.

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01:07:53,253 --> 01:07:54,573
Speaker 5: Yeah, too right, too right.

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Speaker 20: But I'm sixty five, mate, no more running. I still

1453
01:07:58,613 --> 01:08:03,013
Speaker 20: love my running. I've moved to South Boy. It's a

1454
01:08:03,093 --> 01:08:06,613
Speaker 20: lovely little village called Mangachino. I totally run an UK

1455
01:08:06,653 --> 01:08:09,133
Speaker 20: and I'm moving down with lifestyle. I enjoyed of a

1456
01:08:09,253 --> 01:08:15,453
Speaker 20: damn thing yet, but that the lifestyle change has helped too.

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Speaker 27: Yeah.

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01:08:16,133 --> 01:08:16,372
Speaker 13: I mean.

1459
01:08:16,933 --> 01:08:19,932
Speaker 20: I was twenty six years trucking with one firm in Auckland.

1460
01:08:19,973 --> 01:08:22,452
Speaker 20: It was a great furma. I loved my job. Boss

1461
01:08:22,613 --> 01:08:26,412
Speaker 20: was fantastic with my mental illness. But I just had

1462
01:08:26,452 --> 01:08:27,732
Speaker 20: to felt like a change, you know.

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01:08:28,253 --> 01:08:33,572
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just going to say sorry, I interrupted

1464
01:08:33,572 --> 01:08:34,892
Speaker 2: you just saying you didn't want to spend your listens

1465
01:08:35,053 --> 01:08:35,572
Speaker 2: your life, you go.

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01:08:36,652 --> 01:08:38,492
Speaker 20: Oh, I didn't want to spend the rest of my

1467
01:08:38,612 --> 01:08:41,933
Speaker 20: dies in Auckland, to be honest. And I grew up

1468
01:08:42,053 --> 01:08:45,293
Speaker 20: down this way south, like had I as a kid

1469
01:08:45,372 --> 01:08:49,133
Speaker 20: in the sixties and fond memories and yeah, this little

1470
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Speaker 20: settlement people care still and they rally around, you know.

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01:08:54,333 --> 01:08:58,293
Speaker 20: But I had the shoulders certainly in February, and I

1472
01:08:58,452 --> 01:09:03,052
Speaker 20: haven't really given much community service out. But the people

1473
01:09:03,133 --> 01:09:07,093
Speaker 20: that came around with meals and chatting and coffee, you know,

1474
01:09:07,133 --> 01:09:10,013
Speaker 20: it was like the old days used to get in

1475
01:09:10,133 --> 01:09:11,293
Speaker 20: a community sort of.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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01:09:12,532 --> 01:09:14,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean that's a huge part of it. Well, guy,

1478
01:09:15,013 --> 01:09:18,213
Speaker 2: thank you so much for calling in man, and thanks

1479
01:09:18,253 --> 01:09:19,532
Speaker 2: for sharing that.

1480
01:09:19,812 --> 01:09:21,452
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm glad.

1481
01:09:21,492 --> 01:09:23,612
Speaker 4: It sounds like you've got some good people around you, guy.

1482
01:09:23,973 --> 01:09:26,772
Speaker 4: And it sounds funny to say, but moving to the

1483
01:09:26,812 --> 01:09:29,053
Speaker 4: White Cuttle and being around nature that does help a

1484
01:09:29,053 --> 01:09:31,772
Speaker 4: lot of people and having that community as well, so well.

1485
01:09:31,853 --> 01:09:35,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's amazing how basic things that almost seem

1486
01:09:35,893 --> 01:09:38,532
Speaker 2: like cliches, like going for a walk and get in

1487
01:09:38,652 --> 01:09:43,093
Speaker 2: touch with nature. If and it's hard because when people

1488
01:09:43,093 --> 01:09:45,133
Speaker 2: are on these really in these black holes and they're

1489
01:09:45,253 --> 01:09:47,932
Speaker 2: right down the bottom, it's hard to explain, but they

1490
01:09:48,293 --> 01:09:50,973
Speaker 2: don't want to do anything at all. Yeah, but if

1491
01:09:51,013 --> 01:09:54,333
Speaker 2: you can get out and do a walk and little

1492
01:09:54,412 --> 01:09:57,532
Speaker 2: things that just give a little bit more light, so

1493
01:09:57,652 --> 01:10:01,213
Speaker 2: you can just move a little bit further and fight

1494
01:10:01,372 --> 01:10:02,333
Speaker 2: just a little bit more.

1495
01:10:02,492 --> 01:10:05,652
Speaker 4: So, Yeah, Nistly said, we are taking your calls on oh,

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01:10:05,652 --> 01:10:09,572
Speaker 4: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. You've had some mental

1497
01:10:09,853 --> 01:10:11,732
Speaker 4: challenges or mental battles, we can you hear from you.

1498
01:10:11,853 --> 01:10:13,572
Speaker 4: How did you get through on the other side, whether

1499
01:10:13,652 --> 01:10:15,652
Speaker 4: it was anxiety, getting into a bit of a funk.

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01:10:15,692 --> 01:10:18,692
Speaker 4: What do you do to keep your mental health up

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01:10:19,053 --> 01:10:21,652
Speaker 4: during the tough times. It is seventeen to three.

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01:10:22,372 --> 01:10:25,492
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, to the big trends

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01:10:25,692 --> 01:10:27,012
Speaker 1: and everything in between.

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01:10:27,253 --> 01:10:30,173
Speaker 14: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons excused talks.

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01:10:30,173 --> 01:10:32,213
Speaker 4: It'd be for a good afternoon. She has Mental Health

1506
01:10:32,213 --> 01:10:34,892
Speaker 4: Awareness Week, so we're asking for your stories. If you've

1507
01:10:34,933 --> 01:10:37,612
Speaker 4: gone through some mental health issues, a bit of funk,

1508
01:10:37,652 --> 01:10:39,053
Speaker 4: how did you get through on the other side and

1509
01:10:39,093 --> 01:10:39,532
Speaker 4: what helped you.

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01:10:39,572 --> 01:10:41,692
Speaker 5: Oh, one hundred and eighteen eighty. It's a number to call.

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01:10:41,933 --> 01:10:44,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about how you climbed out of the

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01:10:44,333 --> 01:10:46,213
Speaker 2: whole jury. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Matt, how's the time, kid?

1514
01:10:50,013 --> 01:10:50,333
Speaker 13: A mate?

1515
01:10:50,492 --> 01:10:50,772
Speaker 5: Good?

1516
01:10:52,213 --> 01:10:52,772
Speaker 28: Yeah, it's funny.

1517
01:10:53,933 --> 01:10:55,093
Speaker 7: You got the crap.

1518
01:10:56,572 --> 01:11:01,892
Speaker 12: I have been probably a full year and it all started.

1519
01:11:06,692 --> 01:11:10,652
Speaker 12: I'll reached the peak of my industry and I was like.

1520
01:11:11,173 --> 01:11:13,492
Speaker 17: Yeah, you know, I couldn't get any higher in the ladder.

1521
01:11:13,492 --> 01:11:16,293
Speaker 7: I thought that's what I wanted, and.

1522
01:11:18,053 --> 01:11:18,492
Speaker 20: And then.

1523
01:11:20,372 --> 01:11:21,612
Speaker 16: I realized.

1524
01:11:22,893 --> 01:11:24,532
Speaker 12: Very hard way, just.

1525
01:11:24,572 --> 01:11:26,492
Speaker 7: Trying to be the man at both ends, you know,

1526
01:11:26,572 --> 01:11:29,173
Speaker 7: the man at home the man at work has its

1527
01:11:29,253 --> 01:11:30,173
Speaker 7: massive burnout.

1528
01:11:32,692 --> 01:11:33,692
Speaker 12: I didn't see the sign.

1529
01:11:34,173 --> 01:11:38,732
Speaker 7: And it was started with shingles and then the singles,

1530
01:11:38,812 --> 01:11:41,372
Speaker 7: just the brain fatigue and all that kind of crap,

1531
01:11:41,933 --> 01:11:43,893
Speaker 7: and then that led onto the breakdown.

1532
01:11:44,532 --> 01:11:45,012
Speaker 10: And then.

1533
01:11:46,372 --> 01:11:50,972
Speaker 7: Normally over the years, pretty high functioning when it comes

1534
01:11:51,013 --> 01:11:53,492
Speaker 7: to stress, is like, the more stress, the.

1535
01:11:53,572 --> 01:11:54,333
Speaker 10: More I.

1536
01:11:56,173 --> 01:11:58,452
Speaker 12: Performed, you know, I loved it, loved it, you know,

1537
01:11:58,532 --> 01:12:01,412
Speaker 12: I mean, yes, feeds.

1538
01:12:01,213 --> 01:12:03,892
Speaker 7: Me the stress and I'll give you the mean results

1539
01:12:04,013 --> 01:12:06,532
Speaker 7: kind of thing, you know. And then for this time

1540
01:12:07,013 --> 01:12:08,932
Speaker 7: it didn't work, the work at all.

1541
01:12:09,652 --> 01:12:11,253
Speaker 24: And then I'm like a hour.

1542
01:12:11,612 --> 01:12:12,213
Speaker 7: What's going on?

1543
01:12:12,652 --> 01:12:12,812
Speaker 29: Man?

1544
01:12:14,572 --> 01:12:15,053
Speaker 17: And so.

1545
01:12:16,572 --> 01:12:17,293
Speaker 24: Full of chaos?

1546
01:12:17,372 --> 01:12:17,812
Speaker 9: Is the brain?

1547
01:12:17,893 --> 01:12:19,173
Speaker 7: I'm like, what's going on?

1548
01:12:19,652 --> 01:12:20,612
Speaker 24: Not even warming?

1549
01:12:20,973 --> 01:12:27,213
Speaker 30: And h came out of it with ADHD is what

1550
01:12:27,612 --> 01:12:31,852
Speaker 30: I got diagnosed worth and it kind of all made

1551
01:12:31,973 --> 01:12:37,372
Speaker 30: sense at the time, blamed twenty.

1552
01:12:37,253 --> 01:12:42,372
Speaker 7: Years, drugue, addiction, all sorts of crap, you know. And

1553
01:12:42,452 --> 01:12:47,732
Speaker 7: then so I've been going to read this lately and uh, okay,

1554
01:12:48,013 --> 01:12:50,572
Speaker 7: then there's the start of the yet and then so

1555
01:12:51,692 --> 01:12:57,213
Speaker 7: h then lately my missus breaking up with me. She

1556
01:12:57,293 --> 01:12:59,572
Speaker 7: couldn't handle the.

1557
01:13:01,133 --> 01:13:04,173
Speaker 24: Dealing with you know what I'm going through. So I'm

1558
01:13:04,213 --> 01:13:05,133
Speaker 24: dealing with that kind of.

1559
01:13:05,173 --> 01:13:08,412
Speaker 7: Crap and I've just been reading it.

1560
01:13:08,572 --> 01:13:11,052
Speaker 12: Didn't is it a dope?

1561
01:13:11,093 --> 01:13:15,213
Speaker 7: I mean my addiction to dope for me, I'm just

1562
01:13:15,293 --> 01:13:18,053
Speaker 7: always finding that sugar. Sugar is the first that I

1563
01:13:18,133 --> 01:13:21,412
Speaker 7: go for, and then it's just something just something to

1564
01:13:22,173 --> 01:13:27,932
Speaker 7: give that that that that has. And then last night

1565
01:13:27,973 --> 01:13:31,492
Speaker 7: I had it like a little tephany because I live it, awten,

1566
01:13:31,973 --> 01:13:34,212
Speaker 7: It's just a rat race that never gets for yourself,

1567
01:13:34,772 --> 01:13:40,173
Speaker 7: never gets time to find myself or fix myself. I'm thinking, well,

1568
01:13:40,973 --> 01:13:44,053
Speaker 7: do I just hop in the little escort, take some

1569
01:13:44,293 --> 01:13:47,733
Speaker 7: time out and just literally.

1570
01:13:49,053 --> 01:13:51,652
Speaker 12: Take a hiatus from work and.

1571
01:13:53,572 --> 01:13:56,052
Speaker 24: Just go up somewhere.

1572
01:13:56,293 --> 01:13:59,293
Speaker 7: I just get pet out of this rat race and

1573
01:13:59,372 --> 01:14:02,333
Speaker 7: get can get like the old mate before he said,

1574
01:14:02,372 --> 01:14:04,893
Speaker 7: you know, just live in the nature and stuff and

1575
01:14:06,253 --> 01:14:13,492
Speaker 7: you know, yeah, time to like just detached mind, just

1576
01:14:13,612 --> 01:14:14,692
Speaker 7: out and fix yourself.

1577
01:14:15,372 --> 01:14:18,013
Speaker 2: And you have you have people, you know, you've have

1578
01:14:18,213 --> 01:14:20,452
Speaker 2: had professional help, You've you've reached out.

1579
01:14:20,492 --> 01:14:23,173
Speaker 24: You were saying, yeah, it's funny.

1580
01:14:24,293 --> 01:14:26,093
Speaker 7: At the start, I reached out to what they d

1581
01:14:26,293 --> 01:14:32,253
Speaker 7: h B. Unfortunately I can't I had really good results

1582
01:14:32,333 --> 01:14:38,812
Speaker 7: because they were fans of uh Chuck ad met that

1583
01:14:38,973 --> 01:14:44,212
Speaker 7: it instead of like you know, like solving it and assume.

1584
01:14:44,253 --> 01:14:47,933
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm all good with with one if you do.

1585
01:14:48,013 --> 01:14:49,293
Speaker 2: The other, but I'm not.

1586
01:14:49,572 --> 01:14:51,812
Speaker 7: I'm not happy with just Chucky met that. I think

1587
01:14:51,853 --> 01:14:52,572
Speaker 7: that's folks.

1588
01:14:55,053 --> 01:14:57,253
Speaker 22: So uh And then they.

1589
01:14:57,492 --> 01:15:02,093
Speaker 7: Dropped me because I rips because well, they weren't really

1590
01:15:02,173 --> 01:15:07,412
Speaker 7: going to come to the party on providing like ongoing

1591
01:15:07,652 --> 01:15:10,213
Speaker 7: counseling or whatnot. And but I just wanted me to

1592
01:15:10,253 --> 01:15:15,093
Speaker 7: take my meds. So I'm like, well, yeah, yeah, I'll

1593
01:15:15,133 --> 01:15:16,293
Speaker 7: fill the pence of that one, you know.

1594
01:15:16,333 --> 01:15:20,173
Speaker 24: I mean, yeah, so I love it, love it.

1595
01:15:20,333 --> 01:15:23,412
Speaker 7: I've supported in that way just because I wouldn't take

1596
01:15:23,492 --> 01:15:25,732
Speaker 7: their meds, do you know what I mean? I take

1597
01:15:25,812 --> 01:15:27,293
Speaker 7: one of them, I'm not taking the whole body a

1598
01:15:27,293 --> 01:15:29,732
Speaker 7: lot because I wanted to be a bloody zombie and

1599
01:15:29,853 --> 01:15:30,772
Speaker 7: I need to work, you know.

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01:15:31,213 --> 01:15:35,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Jerry, thank you, thank you too. Yeah, well

1601
01:15:35,692 --> 01:15:37,452
Speaker 2: we'll think. Thank you so much for calling. And I

1602
01:15:37,532 --> 01:15:40,133
Speaker 2: hope it goes well, you know, getting out and out

1603
01:15:40,133 --> 01:15:42,652
Speaker 2: of Auckland and getting in touch with a bit of nature.

1604
01:15:42,692 --> 01:15:45,093
Speaker 2: And it's something that happens to it to a lot

1605
01:15:45,133 --> 01:15:46,772
Speaker 2: of people. You read it over and over again. They

1606
01:15:46,853 --> 01:15:48,333
Speaker 2: hit the peak, and they think that when you hit

1607
01:15:48,412 --> 01:15:50,372
Speaker 2: that peak of your career, that's going to solve all

1608
01:15:50,372 --> 01:15:52,572
Speaker 2: your problems. But when you when you arrive there, you

1609
01:15:52,692 --> 01:15:56,333
Speaker 2: realize that, you know, it's not I'm saying with you,

1610
01:15:56,452 --> 01:15:59,253
Speaker 2: go there you are. Yeah, but the story repeated over

1611
01:15:59,253 --> 01:16:01,093
Speaker 2: and over again. People think there's something down the track

1612
01:16:01,093 --> 01:16:03,812
Speaker 2: when they achieve that everything's going to be okay, and

1613
01:16:04,492 --> 01:16:06,093
Speaker 2: it isn't always.

1614
01:16:05,933 --> 01:16:06,972
Speaker 5: No, no, exactly.

1615
01:16:07,253 --> 01:16:08,093
Speaker 2: And good on you, Jerry.

1616
01:16:08,173 --> 01:16:09,972
Speaker 5: Keep doing those things that make you feel good. You're

1617
01:16:09,973 --> 01:16:12,093
Speaker 5: a good man. It is eight minutes to three back

1618
01:16:12,173 --> 01:16:12,652
Speaker 5: in a mow.

1619
01:16:13,572 --> 01:16:15,932
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1620
01:16:16,013 --> 01:16:19,532
Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used

1621
01:16:19,612 --> 01:16:20,493
Speaker 1: talk ZB.

1622
01:16:21,253 --> 01:16:21,892
Speaker 5: Six to three.

1623
01:16:22,412 --> 01:16:25,532
Speaker 2: Hey, the best first point of contact is to visit

1624
01:16:25,572 --> 01:16:29,093
Speaker 2: your GP. They can help assess what further support might

1625
01:16:29,173 --> 01:16:32,492
Speaker 2: be needed. There are also some national helplines. If you

1626
01:16:32,612 --> 01:16:35,253
Speaker 2: or someone you care about are in immediate physical danger

1627
01:16:35,612 --> 01:16:38,093
Speaker 2: to themselves or others, call one one one. Of course.

1628
01:16:38,452 --> 01:16:42,492
Speaker 2: More information see mentalhealth dot org, dot n Z slash

1629
01:16:42,692 --> 01:16:46,612
Speaker 2: in crisis, need to talk free call or text one

1630
01:16:46,732 --> 01:16:50,452
Speaker 2: seven three seven anytime for support from a trained counselor

1631
01:16:50,572 --> 01:16:54,012
Speaker 2: that's text one seven three seven or call one seven

1632
01:16:54,133 --> 01:16:54,612
Speaker 2: three seven.

1633
01:16:54,732 --> 01:16:57,972
Speaker 4: There's also Lifeline, Oh eight hundred five four three three

1634
01:16:58,213 --> 01:17:01,052
Speaker 4: five four. That's O eight hundred Lifeline, the suicide crisis

1635
01:17:01,093 --> 01:17:04,692
Speaker 4: helpline that's five oh wait eight two eight eight six five.

1636
01:17:04,772 --> 01:17:07,652
Speaker 4: Youth Line is eight hundred three seven sixty six double

1637
01:17:07,732 --> 01:17:08,253
Speaker 4: three and one.

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01:17:08,333 --> 01:17:09,093
Speaker 14: What's up that?

1639
01:17:09,333 --> 01:17:11,652
Speaker 4: This is all free eight hundred and nine four to

1640
01:17:11,933 --> 01:17:15,213
Speaker 4: eight seven eight seven or online chat from eleven am

1641
01:17:15,293 --> 01:17:20,172
Speaker 4: to eleven pm Dave, Welcome to the show, mate.

1642
01:17:20,492 --> 01:17:23,852
Speaker 16: Hey guys, how are you? I guess a couple of

1643
01:17:23,933 --> 01:17:27,213
Speaker 16: points and I'm sure people have probably reiterated this is

1644
01:17:27,973 --> 01:17:30,372
Speaker 16: as depression lives in the past and anxiety lives in

1645
01:17:30,412 --> 01:17:34,572
Speaker 16: the future. Yes, so the important aspect is to live

1646
01:17:34,612 --> 01:17:37,892
Speaker 16: in the now, in the moment. And I guess one

1647
01:17:37,973 --> 01:17:41,213
Speaker 16: way I've sort of helped when I've been in those

1648
01:17:41,333 --> 01:17:45,252
Speaker 16: heightened situations where I've struggled with that is just connecting

1649
01:17:45,333 --> 01:17:50,532
Speaker 16: with your five senses, so all your five senses touch, smell,

1650
01:17:52,532 --> 01:17:58,053
Speaker 16: site and focusing on your breathing and that. What that does,

1651
01:17:58,372 --> 01:18:01,852
Speaker 16: It just brings you back into yourself and allows you

1652
01:18:01,933 --> 01:18:06,452
Speaker 16: to focus on actually the present. And often when you

1653
01:18:06,572 --> 01:18:10,372
Speaker 16: do that, it allows you to think a bit more clear.

1654
01:18:10,812 --> 01:18:13,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dave, that's very good advice. I mean, the past

1655
01:18:13,893 --> 01:18:16,173
Speaker 2: isn't a realm that we exist in, yep, and so

1656
01:18:16,333 --> 01:18:18,213
Speaker 2: beating yourself up of it. You can learn from the past,

1657
01:18:18,293 --> 01:18:20,293
Speaker 2: but you can't even go back and change it. Yeah,

1658
01:18:20,492 --> 01:18:23,293
Speaker 2: so yeah, you can't. You can just try not dwell it.

1659
01:18:23,372 --> 01:18:24,333
Speaker 2: That's very good advice, Dave.

1660
01:18:24,452 --> 01:18:24,973
Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you.

1661
01:18:26,093 --> 01:18:29,253
Speaker 2: And you know we had Harry ever along before and

1662
01:18:29,333 --> 01:18:32,133
Speaker 2: his book is Hungry to Be Happy. So that's a

1663
01:18:32,213 --> 01:18:34,692
Speaker 2: fantastic book and it covers his struggle back from his

1664
01:18:35,213 --> 01:18:39,772
Speaker 2: shocking situation and you can see Harry and I were

1665
01:18:39,812 --> 01:18:42,892
Speaker 2: speaking in Hawksby at the Hawks Bay Writers and Readers

1666
01:18:42,933 --> 01:18:44,652
Speaker 2: Festival on Sunday at twelve pm.

1667
01:18:44,893 --> 01:18:46,812
Speaker 4: That will be a great event, yep, so get down

1668
01:18:46,853 --> 01:18:49,253
Speaker 4: for that if you're in the area right. Thank you

1669
01:18:49,452 --> 01:18:51,572
Speaker 4: very much for all the text and phone calls on

1670
01:18:51,652 --> 01:18:53,812
Speaker 4: that one. It is, of course mental Health Awareness Week

1671
01:18:53,893 --> 01:18:56,892
Speaker 4: coming up. After three o'clock, it is time for New

1672
01:18:56,973 --> 01:18:57,932
Speaker 4: Zealander of the Week.

1673
01:18:58,013 --> 01:18:58,492
Speaker 2: Who will it be?

1674
01:19:01,053 --> 01:19:02,012
Speaker 14: Your new home?

1675
01:19:02,133 --> 01:19:06,612
Speaker 1: Are instateful and entertaining talk? It's Mattie and Taylor Adams

1676
01:19:06,853 --> 01:19:08,173
Speaker 1: afternoons on you.

1677
01:19:08,492 --> 01:19:13,572
Speaker 4: Talk, sib very good halfternoon C seven pass three. The

1678
01:19:13,652 --> 01:19:16,492
Speaker 4: reason I've got a bit of a jaunty giggle in

1679
01:19:16,572 --> 01:19:18,253
Speaker 4: my voices, matt you're a very happy man.

1680
01:19:18,853 --> 01:19:21,253
Speaker 2: Well look, if you do you follow, if you follow

1681
01:19:21,293 --> 01:19:23,772
Speaker 2: baseball and you care about what's happening and you're going

1682
01:19:23,812 --> 01:19:26,972
Speaker 2: to planning to watch it and replay, then then don't.

1683
01:19:27,093 --> 01:19:32,692
Speaker 4: Get blocks right now, the radio off, But all right,

1684
01:19:33,492 --> 01:19:34,532
Speaker 4: let's go Dodger.

1685
01:19:38,532 --> 01:19:41,452
Speaker 2: Los Angeles Dodgers beat the Phillies in one of the

1686
01:19:41,492 --> 01:19:44,933
Speaker 2: most intense playoff games you'll ever see, bottom of the

1687
01:19:45,053 --> 01:19:50,212
Speaker 2: eleventh and they progress to the National League Championship Series.

1688
01:19:51,053 --> 01:19:51,293
Speaker 9: Wow.

1689
01:19:51,372 --> 01:19:53,892
Speaker 2: Good seven of those games and then it's the World series,

1690
01:19:53,933 --> 01:19:56,252
Speaker 2: and of course the the reigning world champions, my beloved

1691
01:19:56,412 --> 01:19:57,732
Speaker 2: Los Angeles Dodgers.

1692
01:19:57,853 --> 01:19:58,213
Speaker 11: Let's go.

1693
01:19:58,893 --> 01:20:02,773
Speaker 4: I could hear the celebrations as you were watching their men? Americans?

1694
01:20:02,853 --> 01:20:05,772
Speaker 4: They celebrate, well, don't they? That was some beautiful commentary.

1695
01:20:05,772 --> 01:20:08,892
Speaker 4: And could hear the screaming and yelling joy, pure joy?

1696
01:20:08,933 --> 01:20:11,612
Speaker 2: Well, and can we just now stop the unprofessionalism that's

1697
01:20:11,612 --> 01:20:14,293
Speaker 2: been happening on the show with certain members of the crew.

1698
01:20:15,372 --> 01:20:16,692
Speaker 5: No, we're not going to name names here.

1699
01:20:16,692 --> 01:20:19,133
Speaker 2: No names, but doing a radio show where they're watching

1700
01:20:19,133 --> 01:20:19,972
Speaker 2: baseball at the same.

1701
01:20:19,853 --> 01:20:23,053
Speaker 4: Time, unprofessional, huge amount of professional all right, So we're

1702
01:20:23,053 --> 01:20:25,412
Speaker 4: going to get our a MTG for this one. This

1703
01:20:25,572 --> 01:20:27,372
Speaker 4: is going to be a good chat. Actually, so the

1704
01:20:27,612 --> 01:20:31,173
Speaker 4: European Union, they're doing some good work on many different things,

1705
01:20:31,213 --> 01:20:33,253
Speaker 4: and many would argue this is great work and you

1706
01:20:33,412 --> 01:20:37,333
Speaker 4: vote in. European Parliament could ban plant based foods from

1707
01:20:37,452 --> 01:20:41,732
Speaker 4: using MEATI terms like steak, burger or sausage, even if

1708
01:20:41,772 --> 01:20:44,612
Speaker 4: they've been vegan staples for year. It's a move pitched

1709
01:20:44,652 --> 01:20:48,253
Speaker 4: at protecting farmers and food traditions, but critics call it

1710
01:20:48,333 --> 01:20:50,213
Speaker 4: a cultural war on your plate.

1711
01:20:50,812 --> 01:20:57,053
Speaker 2: Look, it's stolen. The valor is what it is. You

1712
01:20:57,532 --> 01:20:59,852
Speaker 2: are stealing. You know that the sausage roll has done

1713
01:20:59,853 --> 01:21:01,973
Speaker 2: a lot of hard work as the sausage role to

1714
01:21:02,013 --> 01:21:05,452
Speaker 2: make people love it over many many years. It's done

1715
01:21:05,652 --> 01:21:10,973
Speaker 2: so much good staff at birthday party and events, at charities,

1716
01:21:11,973 --> 01:21:14,972
Speaker 2: at rugby clubs. It's done so much over the years,

1717
01:21:15,013 --> 01:21:16,933
Speaker 2: the sausage roll. And for you to just slim in

1718
01:21:17,013 --> 01:21:21,133
Speaker 2: there with your nut roll or your tofu humiliator or

1719
01:21:21,213 --> 01:21:25,173
Speaker 2: your lentil based whatever and call yourself a sausage role

1720
01:21:25,213 --> 01:21:27,572
Speaker 2: when you haven't done the hard yards over the years,

1721
01:21:27,612 --> 01:21:32,172
Speaker 2: this absolute corruption of the worst kind. Sure, eat whatever

1722
01:21:32,293 --> 01:21:35,412
Speaker 2: you want, but if it's not got a sausage in it,

1723
01:21:35,532 --> 01:21:37,812
Speaker 2: then it's not a sausage roll. It's a nut roll,

1724
01:21:38,253 --> 01:21:41,013
Speaker 2: it's a Lentil roll, it's a tofu humiliator.

1725
01:21:41,173 --> 01:21:41,772
Speaker 11: That's what it is.

1726
01:21:41,933 --> 01:21:43,892
Speaker 4: You can see there's some trauma and Matt's pass when

1727
01:21:43,893 --> 01:21:46,213
Speaker 4: it comes to the stolen valor of meat products.

1728
01:21:46,253 --> 01:21:48,133
Speaker 2: You saw it happened to me out there, Tyler, Yeah

1729
01:21:48,173 --> 01:21:51,652
Speaker 2: I did. There was some sausage rolls on and I

1730
01:21:51,772 --> 01:21:54,253
Speaker 2: skipped out there or happy with a big smile on

1731
01:21:54,333 --> 01:21:57,253
Speaker 2: my face. I was so excited. Dip it into the sauce,

1732
01:21:57,333 --> 01:21:59,772
Speaker 2: take a bite and it's not a sausage roll, it's

1733
01:22:00,213 --> 01:22:02,613
Speaker 2: some kind of vegetable atrocity.

1734
01:22:02,772 --> 01:22:02,972
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1735
01:22:03,173 --> 01:22:05,293
Speaker 4: Right, that was heartbreaking for everyone. I mean, you're a

1736
01:22:05,372 --> 01:22:07,732
Speaker 4: little boy that could believe and then your heart was broken.

1737
01:22:07,893 --> 01:22:10,372
Speaker 2: And look, I'm into trying new things. For example, what

1738
01:22:10,532 --> 01:22:13,173
Speaker 2: was that fantastic cafe we were talking about sausage rolls before?

1739
01:22:13,372 --> 01:22:15,852
Speaker 4: Oh the great Rob and Penny. They've got their coffee

1740
01:22:15,893 --> 01:22:19,013
Speaker 4: shop coffee theory just below us. So they heard that

1741
01:22:19,732 --> 01:22:21,213
Speaker 4: you had a lot of trauma in your past about

1742
01:22:21,213 --> 01:22:25,013
Speaker 4: sausage roll so they delivered a full meat, beautiful sausage roll,

1743
01:22:25,053 --> 01:22:25,652
Speaker 4: but a spice.

1744
01:22:26,053 --> 01:22:26,812
Speaker 14: It was a.

1745
01:22:27,053 --> 01:22:28,772
Speaker 2: Gourmet sausage roll.

1746
01:22:29,133 --> 01:22:29,692
Speaker 5: That's justice.

1747
01:22:29,772 --> 01:22:32,933
Speaker 2: It's absolutely brilliant. I'm not against trying new things, but

1748
01:22:33,133 --> 01:22:35,253
Speaker 2: just call something what it is and it's not milk

1749
01:22:35,293 --> 01:22:36,492
Speaker 2: if it doesn't come out of nipples.

1750
01:22:36,893 --> 01:22:37,612
Speaker 5: Okay, yep.

1751
01:22:37,652 --> 01:22:39,772
Speaker 4: It sounds logical, right, it sounds very logical. But what

1752
01:22:39,853 --> 01:22:43,173
Speaker 4: do you say, oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty, have

1753
01:22:43,333 --> 01:22:45,852
Speaker 4: they gone too far, these vegans and the vegan products

1754
01:22:45,893 --> 01:22:49,812
Speaker 4: by claiming that there's somehow meat involved or milk involved

1755
01:22:50,053 --> 01:22:50,812
Speaker 4: or is it fair?

1756
01:22:50,893 --> 01:22:52,612
Speaker 5: Cop? And you're a vegan and you love it because

1757
01:22:52,652 --> 01:22:53,932
Speaker 5: you kind of know what you're going to get.

1758
01:22:54,173 --> 01:22:57,253
Speaker 2: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. It's already heating up

1759
01:22:57,293 --> 01:22:58,333
Speaker 2: on the phones and in the text.

1760
01:22:58,452 --> 01:22:59,772
Speaker 5: This is going to be good. But right now it

1761
01:22:59,893 --> 01:23:00,732
Speaker 5: is eleven past three.

1762
01:23:01,452 --> 01:23:04,133
Speaker 2: Every Friday on Matt and Tyler Afternoons on the Mighty

1763
01:23:04,253 --> 01:23:07,652
Speaker 2: News Talk ZB we honor someone with the coveted New

1764
01:23:07,772 --> 01:23:10,173
Speaker 2: Zealand of the Week, in honor that we bestow on

1765
01:23:10,293 --> 01:23:13,692
Speaker 2: your behalf to a newsmaker who's had an outsized effect

1766
01:23:13,772 --> 01:23:17,972
Speaker 2: on our great and beautiful nation over the previous seven days.

1767
01:23:18,452 --> 01:23:21,732
Speaker 2: As always, there'll be two runners up, but only one winner.

1768
01:23:22,333 --> 01:23:28,532
Speaker 2: But who will the big winner be? Without further passing around,

1769
01:23:28,692 --> 01:23:33,572
Speaker 2: this is the mad Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons New

1770
01:23:33,692 --> 01:23:37,812
Speaker 2: Zealander of the Week. Our second runner up gets the

1771
01:23:37,973 --> 01:23:41,333
Speaker 2: Honest Day's Work for an Honest Day's Pay Award. This

1772
01:23:41,492 --> 01:23:43,973
Speaker 2: week MP Ginny Anderson turned a nose up at a

1773
01:23:44,013 --> 01:23:46,572
Speaker 2: classic Kiwi job and the area it's done.

1774
01:23:46,612 --> 01:23:48,692
Speaker 31: And you've got to Prome Minister, who's telling them to

1775
01:23:48,732 --> 01:23:52,692
Speaker 31: go to Dargaville and dig up a kumra And that's crazy.

1776
01:23:52,853 --> 01:23:54,132
Speaker 4: You know, they need some real.

1777
01:23:55,812 --> 01:23:58,532
Speaker 2: Problem and that's the problem with your view of the

1778
01:23:58,572 --> 01:24:02,852
Speaker 2: world is it. We're to come on, Ginny Duggers is

1779
01:24:02,853 --> 01:24:04,732
Speaker 2: all right and if you have to move from your

1780
01:24:04,812 --> 01:24:07,973
Speaker 2: home you want to work. That is a very honorable

1781
01:24:08,093 --> 01:24:13,053
Speaker 2: thing to do. Kumarra Diggers of Darga Ball, you are

1782
01:24:13,612 --> 01:24:17,333
Speaker 2: second runner up for New Zealander of the Week. The

1783
01:24:17,412 --> 01:24:20,012
Speaker 2: first runner up also gets the what a Good Doggie

1784
01:24:20,013 --> 01:24:23,452
Speaker 2: Award or what a Good Doggie. We can all have

1785
01:24:23,612 --> 01:24:26,452
Speaker 2: our say, but we got to keep people's homes and

1786
01:24:26,572 --> 01:24:29,293
Speaker 2: families out of it. When we say families, we also

1787
01:24:29,412 --> 01:24:33,612
Speaker 2: mean politicians. Dogs for taking glass to your eyes when

1788
01:24:33,692 --> 01:24:36,732
Speaker 2: your home was attacked by an angry man with the crowbar.

1789
01:24:38,372 --> 01:24:40,813
Speaker 2: Winston Peter's dog Kobe.

1790
01:24:41,053 --> 01:24:45,213
Speaker 5: You are a good doggie and you are first runner

1791
01:24:45,293 --> 01:24:45,812
Speaker 5: up for.

1792
01:24:45,973 --> 01:24:50,892
Speaker 2: New Zealander of the Week, and Kobe, for whatever reason,

1793
01:24:51,372 --> 01:24:54,253
Speaker 2: this Afternoon's winner cannot perform their duties as New Zealander

1794
01:24:54,293 --> 01:24:56,333
Speaker 2: of the Week. You'll be asked to step up for

1795
01:24:56,412 --> 01:25:00,532
Speaker 2: any public appearances, but there can be only one New

1796
01:25:00,612 --> 01:25:03,893
Speaker 2: Zealander of the Week and the winner also gets the

1797
01:25:04,093 --> 01:25:07,973
Speaker 2: True Blue Hero Awards, the Star of the.

1798
01:25:08,013 --> 01:25:11,572
Speaker 31: Beat and on TV, anyone who meant you would attest

1799
01:25:11,692 --> 01:25:15,652
Speaker 31: your stature and great manna between your thirty three years

1800
01:25:15,692 --> 01:25:18,772
Speaker 31: in the force and your immensely popular run on Police

1801
01:25:18,812 --> 01:25:21,412
Speaker 31: ten to seven. You rounded up more criminal scum than

1802
01:25:21,532 --> 01:25:23,612
Speaker 31: anyone in the history of our great country.

1803
01:25:24,213 --> 01:25:26,452
Speaker 2: This week you passed away at seventy eight, and you'll

1804
01:25:26,452 --> 01:25:29,333
Speaker 2: be missed by your wife for fifty seven years, your

1805
01:25:29,452 --> 01:25:34,813
Speaker 2: three kids, and nearly everyone else in the country. Detective

1806
01:25:35,053 --> 01:25:40,253
Speaker 2: Inspector Graham Bell retired. You are the Matt and Tyler

1807
01:25:40,372 --> 01:25:45,133
Speaker 2: Afternoons New Zealander of the week. Take it away, Howie Morrison.

1808
01:26:12,652 --> 01:26:14,253
Speaker 3: We're looking for your health to.

1809
01:26:14,372 --> 01:26:16,452
Speaker 2: Find a group of murderous thugs.

1810
01:26:16,492 --> 01:26:19,452
Speaker 27: Two young creeps, a half with a gun, a fault

1811
01:26:19,532 --> 01:26:24,133
Speaker 27: beard and a turban, a mindless low life, two vicious morons,

1812
01:26:24,293 --> 01:26:28,772
Speaker 27: two armed and violent mongrels, three stooges, three desperate and

1813
01:26:29,013 --> 01:26:32,093
Speaker 27: wild eyed dustlust goons, two fat woman and a man

1814
01:26:32,173 --> 01:26:35,052
Speaker 27: with a gun. And this scruffy little thug, this little

1815
01:26:35,173 --> 01:26:37,972
Speaker 27: gem lunatic scumbag with a steak knife.

1816
01:26:38,053 --> 01:26:40,053
Speaker 2: I'll be looking for more help from you later on.

1817
01:26:41,812 --> 01:26:43,333
Speaker 14: News Talks'd be very good.

1818
01:26:43,333 --> 01:26:45,612
Speaker 4: Afternoon seventeen past three. So a new vote in the

1819
01:26:45,652 --> 01:26:49,572
Speaker 4: European Parliament could ban vegan foods from using meaty terms

1820
01:26:49,692 --> 01:26:53,452
Speaker 4: like steak, burger or sausage or even milk. What do

1821
01:26:53,532 --> 01:26:55,372
Speaker 4: you say is that a good idea? Should we bring

1822
01:26:55,452 --> 01:26:57,132
Speaker 4: something like that into good old New Zealand?

1823
01:26:57,372 --> 01:26:57,532
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1824
01:26:57,532 --> 01:26:59,133
Speaker 2: Why aren't we doing that in New Zealand? Why is

1825
01:26:59,213 --> 01:27:01,492
Speaker 2: this not even on the on the table here? Because

1826
01:27:02,133 --> 01:27:05,053
Speaker 2: you know we're a country that depends hugely on our

1827
01:27:05,053 --> 01:27:08,253
Speaker 2: primary sector. Yeah, so you know, if someone is trying

1828
01:27:08,253 --> 01:27:11,412
Speaker 2: to make plant based humiliators and sneak it through and

1829
01:27:11,853 --> 01:27:13,652
Speaker 2: disrupt our economy, then we need to stop it. It

1830
01:27:13,692 --> 01:27:14,932
Speaker 2: needs to be you know, you eat what you want.

1831
01:27:15,173 --> 01:27:18,452
Speaker 2: You eat whatever you bloomin well want. But it's not

1832
01:27:18,572 --> 01:27:22,452
Speaker 2: a sausage roll if it doesn't have sausage in it, right, Yeah, yeah,

1833
01:27:23,093 --> 01:27:24,932
Speaker 2: music to my ears. I make a point of ordering

1834
01:27:25,013 --> 01:27:28,253
Speaker 2: my wife's coffee via its proper name, a soy juice cappuccino.

1835
01:27:29,013 --> 01:27:31,852
Speaker 2: Show me a soy bean with nipples and I'll change

1836
01:27:31,893 --> 01:27:33,093
Speaker 2: my ways. That's from Dave.

1837
01:27:33,213 --> 01:27:35,973
Speaker 5: That does sound horrible, soy juice cappuccino.

1838
01:27:36,893 --> 01:27:39,133
Speaker 2: What's that? We need to find? The line from Meat

1839
01:27:39,173 --> 01:27:43,252
Speaker 2: the Parents, what is it? You can milk anything with nipples,

1840
01:27:44,133 --> 01:27:50,012
Speaker 2: So I've got nipples. Matt, welcome to the show.

1841
01:27:51,013 --> 01:27:54,612
Speaker 17: Hey here you guys, fellos, Very good show. Me an

1842
01:27:54,652 --> 01:28:01,652
Speaker 17: almond that has boobies exactly. Yeah, got milk, Yeah, it's

1843
01:28:01,812 --> 01:28:02,932
Speaker 17: almond juice.

1844
01:28:04,093 --> 01:28:05,852
Speaker 5: The challenges on if you want to see through and

1845
01:28:05,933 --> 01:28:09,013
Speaker 5: almond with nipples, we're here for it. We will wait

1846
01:28:09,093 --> 01:28:10,133
Speaker 5: by r.

1847
01:28:10,213 --> 01:28:12,053
Speaker 2: If you find un armored with nipples, don't eat it.

1848
01:28:13,812 --> 01:28:14,372
Speaker 5: It's probably not.

1849
01:28:14,412 --> 01:28:16,733
Speaker 11: An arm it's not milk.

1850
01:28:18,652 --> 01:28:18,932
Speaker 10: Oats.

1851
01:28:19,293 --> 01:28:20,812
Speaker 17: Show me in the oat with a nipple.

1852
01:28:21,213 --> 01:28:24,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so that's fine, have what you want in

1853
01:28:24,372 --> 01:28:24,892
Speaker 2: your coffee.

1854
01:28:25,692 --> 01:28:29,173
Speaker 17: I gotta say, I was like, like, when I run through,

1855
01:28:29,452 --> 01:28:31,692
Speaker 17: I was really angry, and now I've thought about it.

1856
01:28:32,213 --> 01:28:36,093
Speaker 17: Sausage is a shape, so technically they can call it

1857
01:28:36,173 --> 01:28:39,293
Speaker 17: a sausage, but I think the supermarkets are in the

1858
01:28:39,293 --> 01:28:41,852
Speaker 17: wrong by putting it in the meat section. They have

1859
01:28:42,013 --> 01:28:46,532
Speaker 17: these pennies that look like meat petties, fugar petties. They're

1860
01:28:46,612 --> 01:28:48,892
Speaker 17: the ones mist leaning us peck and save. You need

1861
01:28:48,973 --> 01:28:51,133
Speaker 17: to put those in the vichy section.

1862
01:28:51,412 --> 01:28:53,692
Speaker 2: Not the meaning tell you might have you might have

1863
01:28:53,893 --> 01:28:55,812
Speaker 2: stumbled on a problem with my logic. This is a

1864
01:28:55,853 --> 01:29:00,333
Speaker 2: massive curveball. If sausage is a shape, research on.

1865
01:29:00,412 --> 01:29:02,133
Speaker 5: The origins of the word sausage. But you might have

1866
01:29:02,293 --> 01:29:05,173
Speaker 5: something Because as much as I'm.

1867
01:29:05,853 --> 01:29:09,652
Speaker 17: I can't stand veganism. I can't stand each to their

1868
01:29:09,692 --> 01:29:11,372
Speaker 17: own sausage as a shape.

1869
01:29:11,532 --> 01:29:14,612
Speaker 2: Well, what I find really what I find really interesting.

1870
01:29:14,692 --> 01:29:18,612
Speaker 2: Speaking of shapes as producer, Andrew showed me some pictures before.

1871
01:29:18,692 --> 01:29:20,812
Speaker 2: If you can buy a whole goose, you can find

1872
01:29:21,253 --> 01:29:24,053
Speaker 2: buy a whole vegan goose, and it's a shape of

1873
01:29:24,133 --> 01:29:27,693
Speaker 2: a geese, the shape of a goose. If you're a vegetarian,

1874
01:29:27,732 --> 01:29:29,293
Speaker 2: what do you need to eat a goose? Just eat

1875
01:29:29,333 --> 01:29:32,572
Speaker 2: whatever humiliating loaf of crap you're eating.

1876
01:29:32,772 --> 01:29:33,412
Speaker 20: What does it need to be?

1877
01:29:35,173 --> 01:29:37,492
Speaker 17: Why do you have to have food as a shape

1878
01:29:37,692 --> 01:29:40,612
Speaker 17: of meat? If you're a vegan or a vegetian, eat

1879
01:29:40,692 --> 01:29:43,213
Speaker 17: something that looks like a vegetable. Don't try and make

1880
01:29:43,293 --> 01:29:49,253
Speaker 17: it look like meat. Yeahs huge, secretly secretly meat.

1881
01:29:49,612 --> 01:29:53,932
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, some of them not not bacon bacon, right,

1882
01:29:54,133 --> 01:29:57,532
Speaker 2: Just just if you want to slither of something that

1883
01:29:57,853 --> 01:30:00,372
Speaker 2: that in your sandwich and you but you don't want

1884
01:30:00,372 --> 01:30:02,333
Speaker 2: to have meat, then just give it another name.

1885
01:30:02,412 --> 01:30:02,692
Speaker 11: What is that?

1886
01:30:02,772 --> 01:30:04,532
Speaker 2: It's just a jack fruit?

1887
01:30:04,772 --> 01:30:05,212
Speaker 5: Jackfruit?

1888
01:30:05,253 --> 01:30:07,253
Speaker 4: They often you know that's the fake bacon. But you're

1889
01:30:07,333 --> 01:30:09,772
Speaker 4: quite right if you go pack up the jack fruit bacon.

1890
01:30:10,093 --> 01:30:12,012
Speaker 4: What is there a picture of on the front there's

1891
01:30:12,053 --> 01:30:14,213
Speaker 4: a little pig there, little pig there on your face.

1892
01:30:14,893 --> 01:30:15,093
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1893
01:30:15,572 --> 01:30:17,372
Speaker 17: And I tell you I went to Peck and Saved

1894
01:30:17,372 --> 01:30:19,213
Speaker 17: the other day and I was in the sellad section

1895
01:30:19,333 --> 01:30:21,253
Speaker 17: with a hell of the croutons and stuff, and there

1896
01:30:21,372 --> 01:30:24,213
Speaker 17: was a pecket that says bacon bits. I bought it.

1897
01:30:24,492 --> 01:30:27,692
Speaker 17: I got it home and I there's no bacon in there.

1898
01:30:28,133 --> 01:30:31,013
Speaker 17: It's fake. It's not even bacon. But why are they

1899
01:30:31,053 --> 01:30:35,092
Speaker 17: even allowed to call it that? I was so depressed

1900
01:30:35,572 --> 01:30:40,412
Speaker 17: hanging out for bacon. I go try and find a pig.

1901
01:30:42,133 --> 01:30:45,173
Speaker 2: Just took a bite out of a pig. Pig walks

1902
01:30:45,213 --> 01:30:47,652
Speaker 2: past you, take a bite out of it. This happens

1903
01:30:47,692 --> 01:30:49,932
Speaker 2: in my fridge all the time at home. I'll open

1904
01:30:50,013 --> 01:30:52,452
Speaker 2: it like a little susteamer box and I see some

1905
01:30:52,572 --> 01:30:54,372
Speaker 2: chicken in it. Yeah, and I go, oh, what put

1906
01:30:54,372 --> 01:30:59,293
Speaker 2: a chicken? And then it's Tracy's punishing vegan fake chicken. Yeah,

1907
01:30:59,652 --> 01:31:02,893
Speaker 2: it's entrapman doors or something. It is pure deceptions. Some

1908
01:31:02,973 --> 01:31:05,652
Speaker 2: pushback coming here, though, Matt and Tyler. Sounds like you've

1909
01:31:05,652 --> 01:31:08,652
Speaker 2: got some solid insecurities and a feeling threat that the

1910
01:31:08,692 --> 01:31:11,772
Speaker 2: plant based revolution is coming. Being plant based is not

1911
01:31:11,893 --> 01:31:13,893
Speaker 2: only proven to be better for your health. But the

1912
01:31:14,053 --> 01:31:16,812
Speaker 2: environment question is will you start on coconut milk and

1913
01:31:16,893 --> 01:31:17,492
Speaker 2: peanut butter.

1914
01:31:18,093 --> 01:31:18,133
Speaker 24: No.

1915
01:31:18,492 --> 01:31:23,812
Speaker 2: See, the thing is that these Frankensteinian monster creations to

1916
01:31:23,893 --> 01:31:27,492
Speaker 2: try and imitate meat aren't better for your health and

1917
01:31:27,572 --> 01:31:30,412
Speaker 2: they're not better for the environment. Look just eating a

1918
01:31:30,452 --> 01:31:32,612
Speaker 2: piece of broccoli, maybe you could argue that, but by

1919
01:31:32,652 --> 01:31:34,772
Speaker 2: the time they have you just look at the back

1920
01:31:34,893 --> 01:31:40,653
Speaker 2: of one of these vegan sausages or one of these monstrosities.

1921
01:31:41,013 --> 01:31:45,253
Speaker 2: You look at the back of the vegan goose. Thousands

1922
01:31:45,333 --> 01:31:49,293
Speaker 2: and thousands of ingredients sourced from multiple, multiple levels, and

1923
01:31:49,853 --> 01:31:53,253
Speaker 2: so highly processed. The argument that those things are better

1924
01:31:53,333 --> 01:31:57,333
Speaker 2: for you and better for the environment has just been

1925
01:31:57,692 --> 01:31:59,932
Speaker 2: totally and utterly proven wrong. But that's not to say

1926
01:31:59,973 --> 01:32:03,452
Speaker 2: there's anything wrong with being vegan. Eat whatever you wants.

1927
01:32:03,452 --> 01:32:04,452
Speaker 2: Are great, I love plants.

1928
01:32:04,492 --> 01:32:05,013
Speaker 15: You go for it.

1929
01:32:05,452 --> 01:32:07,452
Speaker 2: But if it hasn't come out of a nipple, it's

1930
01:32:07,532 --> 01:32:07,932
Speaker 2: not milk.

1931
01:32:08,372 --> 01:32:11,612
Speaker 4: And coconut milk that is exhibit number you know, Exhibit

1932
01:32:11,692 --> 01:32:14,772
Speaker 4: A in a minute, coconut milk. No, you can't call

1933
01:32:14,812 --> 01:32:17,213
Speaker 4: that milk because again, on your logic, a coconut does

1934
01:32:17,293 --> 01:32:19,892
Speaker 4: not have nipples, you cannot call it milk.

1935
01:32:20,452 --> 01:32:21,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but I was just in Fiji and

1936
01:32:22,013 --> 01:32:26,293
Speaker 2: I remember ordering the delicious coconut milk. The coconut is

1937
01:32:26,293 --> 01:32:27,492
Speaker 2: the most amazing thing in the worlk.

1938
01:32:28,293 --> 01:32:31,293
Speaker 4: It's a slightly heavy coconut water. Because I know that's different.

1939
01:32:31,293 --> 01:32:32,772
Speaker 4: That's where you get into trouble. There is such a

1940
01:32:32,853 --> 01:32:34,892
Speaker 4: thing as coconut water, which is different to so called

1941
01:32:34,933 --> 01:32:37,173
Speaker 4: coconut milk. But it's not it's not milk. It's just

1942
01:32:37,253 --> 01:32:40,052
Speaker 4: pulverized bits of coconut that make it look a bit creamy,

1943
01:32:40,133 --> 01:32:40,372
Speaker 4: isn't it.

1944
01:32:40,532 --> 01:32:40,692
Speaker 31: Yeah?

1945
01:32:40,812 --> 01:32:43,052
Speaker 2: Right, But I won't hear a bad word about a coconut.

1946
01:32:43,053 --> 01:32:44,333
Speaker 2: You're not the top off that you put a bit

1947
01:32:44,372 --> 01:32:49,173
Speaker 2: of rum in there, and you're sitting in Fiji staring

1948
01:32:49,213 --> 01:32:51,173
Speaker 2: at the ocean. I won't hear a bad word about that.

1949
01:32:51,333 --> 01:32:54,333
Speaker 4: Apparently Andrew, Andrew just taps through and avocado has a

1950
01:32:54,412 --> 01:32:57,492
Speaker 4: nipple right at the top, but just one nipple. So

1951
01:32:57,612 --> 01:32:59,052
Speaker 4: I think you have to have a pair of nipples

1952
01:32:59,133 --> 01:33:02,452
Speaker 4: to be able to Oh, it's a trimmed stalk a.

1953
01:33:02,532 --> 01:33:03,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not a nipple.

1954
01:33:03,412 --> 01:33:06,333
Speaker 4: Okay, none of these, no of these curveballs, please, there's

1955
01:33:06,333 --> 01:33:07,492
Speaker 4: twenty three pus three.

1956
01:33:11,412 --> 01:33:15,093
Speaker 1: Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

1957
01:33:15,173 --> 01:33:17,412
Speaker 1: ten eighty on used talk ZB, very.

1958
01:33:17,293 --> 01:33:20,373
Speaker 4: Good afternoon to you. The text machine has absolutely exploded

1959
01:33:20,412 --> 01:33:22,932
Speaker 4: over this. There's a lot of angry texts coming through,

1960
01:33:22,973 --> 01:33:25,452
Speaker 4: but there's also a lot of positive texts coming through.

1961
01:33:25,572 --> 01:33:25,732
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1962
01:33:25,732 --> 01:33:28,293
Speaker 2: I thought I'd been stymied on my logic that a

1963
01:33:28,532 --> 01:33:31,972
Speaker 2: sausage roll cannot be called a sausage roll if it's

1964
01:33:32,812 --> 01:33:36,612
Speaker 2: made out of lentils or tofu or or what other

1965
01:33:36,692 --> 01:33:41,053
Speaker 2: humiliating nuts or something. Yeah, but because a callers said

1966
01:33:41,093 --> 01:33:43,213
Speaker 2: that the sausage is a shape, and I took him

1967
01:33:43,253 --> 01:33:45,812
Speaker 2: on face value, but about a thousand people have text

1968
01:33:45,812 --> 01:33:48,293
Speaker 2: through things. Sausage isn't named after a shape. The sausage

1969
01:33:48,293 --> 01:33:51,173
Speaker 2: shape is named after the shape of a sausage. Okay, right, Yeah,

1970
01:33:51,253 --> 01:33:53,012
Speaker 2: I think you're right. I think you're right, Rob Rober,

1971
01:33:53,412 --> 01:33:54,652
Speaker 2: because a lot of people are saying that, so I

1972
01:33:54,692 --> 01:33:58,612
Speaker 2: lock up sausage. I freaked out there. Sausage, according to

1973
01:33:58,772 --> 01:34:02,253
Speaker 2: the Oxford English Dictionary, an item of food in the

1974
01:34:02,372 --> 01:34:05,372
Speaker 2: form of a cylindrical length of minced pork or other

1975
01:34:05,492 --> 01:34:08,492
Speaker 2: meat and caste in a skin, typically sold raw to

1976
01:34:08,572 --> 01:34:12,093
Speaker 2: be grilled or fried before eating. That's definition one and

1977
01:34:12,213 --> 01:34:15,612
Speaker 2: definition two used as an affectionate form of address, especially

1978
01:34:15,692 --> 01:34:16,173
Speaker 2: to a child.

1979
01:34:16,372 --> 01:34:16,572
Speaker 22: Good.

1980
01:34:16,692 --> 01:34:17,972
Speaker 5: So your logic still stands.

1981
01:34:17,973 --> 01:34:20,492
Speaker 2: The only two things that a sausage can be is

1982
01:34:20,772 --> 01:34:24,412
Speaker 2: a cylindrical length food made of minced pork or other meat,

1983
01:34:25,093 --> 01:34:27,173
Speaker 2: or a child. Okay, those are the only things.

1984
01:34:27,333 --> 01:34:28,412
Speaker 5: One is very delicious.

1985
01:34:28,612 --> 01:34:31,572
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you don't want to be eating children like

1986
01:34:31,692 --> 01:34:32,452
Speaker 2: bad Jelly the Witch.

1987
01:34:32,532 --> 01:34:33,692
Speaker 5: No, you certainly don't.

1988
01:34:34,093 --> 01:34:35,012
Speaker 2: Michael Wagon the show.

1989
01:34:36,133 --> 01:34:38,693
Speaker 24: Hi, how are you YouTube? The funniest thing? Simon?

1990
01:34:39,492 --> 01:34:40,612
Speaker 5: Oh, thank you.

1991
01:34:41,732 --> 01:34:45,372
Speaker 24: I'm enjoying those things to you guys. Now I have

1992
01:34:45,452 --> 01:34:48,652
Speaker 24: a sausage roll story. We've just sold our cafe which

1993
01:34:48,692 --> 01:34:52,133
Speaker 24: is considered a New Zealand iconic cafe and.

1994
01:34:54,013 --> 01:34:56,812
Speaker 2: Compass Coffee ce Combs Coffee CEV.

1995
01:34:57,732 --> 01:34:59,612
Speaker 24: This was the only cafe New Zealand that you can

1996
01:34:59,692 --> 01:35:02,532
Speaker 24: actually has been designed and built for boats to come

1997
01:35:02,612 --> 01:35:06,133
Speaker 24: up to nice anyway, we have lots of boats come

1998
01:35:06,213 --> 01:35:10,692
Speaker 24: up for our sausage rolls. We call Michael's Secret sausage

1999
01:35:10,772 --> 01:35:13,812
Speaker 24: roll So Risbee I came up with nine years ago.

2000
01:35:14,812 --> 01:35:18,612
Speaker 24: And nextly, when you sell a business here that you

2001
01:35:18,732 --> 01:35:21,532
Speaker 24: like to do stats well I do anyway, And we

2002
01:35:21,732 --> 01:35:26,012
Speaker 24: have sold the equivalent in nine years, twenty seven point

2003
01:35:26,093 --> 01:35:28,333
Speaker 24: eight kilometers a sausage roll.

2004
01:35:29,173 --> 01:35:31,013
Speaker 5: That is a great stant twenty.

2005
01:35:32,452 --> 01:35:33,172
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

2006
01:35:33,933 --> 01:35:36,932
Speaker 24: So what that does? That goes from if you lay

2007
01:35:37,013 --> 01:35:39,452
Speaker 24: them end to end, that goes from Cebum Marina on

2008
01:35:39,492 --> 01:35:43,732
Speaker 24: the Lower Heart down along Port Road out to along

2009
01:35:43,893 --> 01:35:48,772
Speaker 24: for Tony along the motorway and then down to Oriental

2010
01:35:48,853 --> 01:35:51,092
Speaker 24: Parade and just around the corner.

2011
01:35:51,973 --> 01:35:54,452
Speaker 4: How often have you driven that route, Michael, and and

2012
01:35:54,652 --> 01:35:56,972
Speaker 4: just thought we've sold this many sausage rolls.

2013
01:35:57,933 --> 01:36:00,093
Speaker 24: Well I'm about I'm about to over the weekend because

2014
01:36:00,133 --> 01:36:01,412
Speaker 24: that was my miss bone.

2015
01:36:02,013 --> 01:36:04,253
Speaker 11: But you know, we.

2016
01:36:05,973 --> 01:36:08,572
Speaker 24: We we get vegans come in. We don't do a

2017
01:36:08,652 --> 01:36:11,972
Speaker 24: vegan sausage roll. In fact, we don't do any vegan

2018
01:36:12,053 --> 01:36:14,892
Speaker 24: fat products. Well you know what I mean.

2019
01:36:15,572 --> 01:36:15,772
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2020
01:36:16,812 --> 01:36:18,612
Speaker 24: Sometimes you know they come in and say, oh can

2021
01:36:18,692 --> 01:36:23,732
Speaker 24: I have a soy milk or an almond milk? Cafe

2022
01:36:24,093 --> 01:36:28,173
Speaker 24: you coffee? And we say to them, you want coffee

2023
01:36:28,213 --> 01:36:29,012
Speaker 24: with crushed nuts?

2024
01:36:29,812 --> 01:36:33,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yeah, I mean that's and that's fine. You

2025
01:36:33,093 --> 01:36:34,772
Speaker 2: can have what you want, but that's what you're ordering.

2026
01:36:34,893 --> 01:36:37,892
Speaker 2: It's not almond milk, it's not oat milk. It's it's

2027
01:36:37,933 --> 01:36:38,452
Speaker 2: a different thing.

2028
01:36:38,492 --> 01:36:40,452
Speaker 4: It's induce a best Yeah, food honesty.

2029
01:36:41,452 --> 01:36:41,932
Speaker 17: That's right.

2030
01:36:42,133 --> 01:36:45,253
Speaker 24: Absolutely, Now, you know, I think I think we're on

2031
01:36:45,333 --> 01:36:50,692
Speaker 24: the right path. And in the plagiarism of of of

2032
01:36:50,973 --> 01:36:54,532
Speaker 24: of sausage rolls trying to pass it off as vegan

2033
01:36:54,612 --> 01:36:58,932
Speaker 24: food or vegan food, I've been trying to pass off

2034
01:36:58,973 --> 01:37:02,173
Speaker 24: as real food. So I can say all this now

2035
01:37:02,253 --> 01:37:03,612
Speaker 24: that we've just sold the cafe.

2036
01:37:03,973 --> 01:37:06,452
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just looking at I'm looking at the

2037
01:37:06,893 --> 01:37:10,533
Speaker 2: Compass Cafe. Oh my god, what a fantastic spot. Incredible

2038
01:37:11,452 --> 01:37:11,772
Speaker 2: it is.

2039
01:37:13,093 --> 01:37:15,973
Speaker 24: And believe it, a lot people come just for our

2040
01:37:16,013 --> 01:37:16,692
Speaker 24: sized roles.

2041
01:37:17,013 --> 01:37:22,173
Speaker 2: Yeah of them. Yeah, I'll tell you what I what

2042
01:37:22,293 --> 01:37:24,413
Speaker 2: I would have liked to have tried is your jacket potatoes.

2043
01:37:25,333 --> 01:37:27,412
Speaker 2: I'm a huge fan of a jacket potato. I'm just

2044
01:37:27,452 --> 01:37:28,133
Speaker 2: looking at the media.

2045
01:37:28,893 --> 01:37:32,093
Speaker 24: Yeah, well, maybe the new owners might put that on

2046
01:37:32,173 --> 01:37:32,452
Speaker 24: the menu.

2047
01:37:32,853 --> 01:37:34,893
Speaker 2: Yeah. What am I looking at here? If it's not

2048
01:37:35,692 --> 01:37:36,053
Speaker 2: what is it?

2049
01:37:37,692 --> 01:37:41,093
Speaker 24: Believe it a lot that they're photo Yeah, because you've

2050
01:37:41,133 --> 01:37:42,412
Speaker 24: obviously looked at our Facebook.

2051
01:37:42,492 --> 01:37:42,692
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2052
01:37:44,213 --> 01:37:51,452
Speaker 24: I catered for a food production company, big food production company.

2053
01:37:51,572 --> 01:37:55,452
Speaker 24: Last week. They had nine of their senior management there

2054
01:37:55,973 --> 01:37:57,252
Speaker 24: and four of them are vegans.

2055
01:37:57,772 --> 01:38:00,732
Speaker 5: Rock right, Okay, that is tough, all right?

2056
01:38:00,853 --> 01:38:04,772
Speaker 2: So ironically, what I'm looking at there is actually vegan.

2057
01:38:06,492 --> 01:38:07,013
Speaker 2: Hang it up.

2058
01:38:08,412 --> 01:38:13,452
Speaker 24: Yeah, they also requested the sausage rolls from the con vegans.

2059
01:38:13,652 --> 01:38:14,492
Speaker 5: Just quickly, Michael.

2060
01:38:14,572 --> 01:38:16,973
Speaker 4: So you mentioned your your secret sausage role as you

2061
01:38:17,452 --> 01:38:19,452
Speaker 4: called it, and it took you nine years to develop

2062
01:38:19,532 --> 01:38:21,452
Speaker 4: that recipe. Did you take that with you when you

2063
01:38:21,532 --> 01:38:23,293
Speaker 4: sold the cafe or have they still got it?

2064
01:38:24,372 --> 01:38:24,412
Speaker 18: No?

2065
01:38:24,572 --> 01:38:27,452
Speaker 24: No, I sold everything with the cafe and they kept

2066
01:38:27,532 --> 01:38:30,532
Speaker 24: asking for a written recipe and I said, no, I

2067
01:38:30,652 --> 01:38:31,692
Speaker 24: haven't written that down.

2068
01:38:32,053 --> 01:38:37,893
Speaker 3: You're like Ketle Sanders, That's what I say, picking his

2069
01:38:38,013 --> 01:38:39,133
Speaker 3: chicken and soil.

2070
01:38:39,213 --> 01:38:42,333
Speaker 24: You put the cochin on it and it becomes Kentucky

2071
01:38:42,412 --> 01:38:45,372
Speaker 24: Fried chicken. And that's exactly the same with our sausage roll.

2072
01:38:45,933 --> 01:38:48,293
Speaker 24: A sausage role as a sausage roll, whether it be

2073
01:38:48,412 --> 01:38:53,013
Speaker 24: pork people or whatever, but that's what goes on it,

2074
01:38:53,173 --> 01:38:56,173
Speaker 24: which makes it the famous secret sausage roll.

2075
01:38:56,652 --> 01:38:59,732
Speaker 2: Well, good on you, Michael. Congratulations for your for your

2076
01:38:59,772 --> 01:39:02,412
Speaker 2: time at your at the Compass Cafe, and congratulations on

2077
01:39:02,492 --> 01:39:07,733
Speaker 2: selling twenty seven point eight kilometers of real deal, legitimate

2078
01:39:08,333 --> 01:39:11,452
Speaker 2: special sausage rolls. That's awesome. But look, this is Facebook.

2079
01:39:11,492 --> 01:39:14,492
Speaker 2: Stalking can get things wrong. So on Facebook stalking looking

2080
01:39:14,572 --> 01:39:17,452
Speaker 2: up the place. Yep, I see some jacket potatoes. I'm like,

2081
01:39:17,532 --> 01:39:19,572
Speaker 2: I'd love to try those. Look good, he says, no, no,

2082
01:39:19,692 --> 01:39:20,772
Speaker 2: we don't sell those. Yeah.

2083
01:39:20,933 --> 01:39:22,093
Speaker 5: And also the vegana.

2084
01:39:22,293 --> 01:39:23,652
Speaker 2: You get things very wrong on Facebook.

2085
01:39:23,692 --> 01:39:25,732
Speaker 4: You certainly can oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty

2086
01:39:25,812 --> 01:39:28,093
Speaker 4: duke care if your burger has no meat in it,

2087
01:39:28,412 --> 01:39:30,333
Speaker 4: as long as it takes good or do you think

2088
01:39:30,372 --> 01:39:33,932
Speaker 4: it is as met, said Stolen Valor, of the hard

2089
01:39:34,013 --> 01:39:36,053
Speaker 4: work that our farmers and meat industry.

2090
01:39:35,732 --> 01:39:37,812
Speaker 5: Have pot into those products all these years. It is

2091
01:39:37,933 --> 01:39:38,452
Speaker 5: twenty eight to.

2092
01:39:38,532 --> 01:39:43,452
Speaker 14: Four jus talks it'd be headlines.

2093
01:39:43,013 --> 01:39:46,092
Speaker 19: With blue bubble taxis. It's no trouble with a blue bubble.

2094
01:39:46,572 --> 01:39:50,293
Speaker 19: A magnitude seven point four earthquake has struck the Philippines

2095
01:39:50,652 --> 01:39:54,572
Speaker 19: twenty three kilometers deep at about two forty three our time.

2096
01:39:55,053 --> 01:39:58,293
Speaker 19: Tsunami Warnings have been issued for coasts within three hundred

2097
01:39:58,372 --> 01:40:02,612
Speaker 19: kilometers of the epicenter. A teak expert is warning of

2098
01:40:02,692 --> 01:40:06,572
Speaker 19: the risk to crucial rural infrastructure if the government follows

2099
01:40:06,652 --> 01:40:10,693
Speaker 19: through on the possibility of selling its debt and equity securities.

2100
01:40:10,893 --> 01:40:15,132
Speaker 19: In Chorus, the Party Marti yesterday missed out placing votes

2101
01:40:15,173 --> 01:40:18,973
Speaker 19: on legislation similar to the Foreshore and Seabed Act, with

2102
01:40:19,173 --> 01:40:22,932
Speaker 19: none of its MPs in the House during voting. Singapore

2103
01:40:22,933 --> 01:40:25,573
Speaker 19: and New Zealand have signed up to a comprehensive strategic

2104
01:40:25,692 --> 01:40:31,012
Speaker 19: partnership aiming to support investment, bolster shared security, and promote

2105
01:40:31,053 --> 01:40:35,532
Speaker 19: expansion of KIWI firms into the wider Asian market. A

2106
01:40:35,612 --> 01:40:38,933
Speaker 19: new strain of canine distemper virus has been detected in

2107
01:40:38,973 --> 01:40:42,452
Speaker 19: New Zealand fur seals, but doc says it's unlikely to

2108
01:40:42,572 --> 01:40:47,572
Speaker 19: be new, just previously undetected. A plead from doctors to

2109
01:40:47,772 --> 01:40:51,372
Speaker 19: call it on the supplements read more at enzid Herald Premium.

2110
01:40:51,853 --> 01:40:53,773
Speaker 19: Back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much, ray Lean. So we're talking about

2112
01:40:56,213 --> 01:40:58,893
Speaker 4: a new vote in the European Parliament. They want to

2113
01:40:58,933 --> 01:41:02,612
Speaker 4: ban plant based foods from using the terms MEETI or

2114
01:41:02,732 --> 01:41:05,652
Speaker 4: using meati terms I should say like steak, burger or sausage,

2115
01:41:05,812 --> 01:41:09,452
Speaker 4: and terms like milk when the products are aren't actually

2116
01:41:09,492 --> 01:41:10,053
Speaker 4: any of those things.

2117
01:41:10,173 --> 01:41:12,012
Speaker 2: A few people that are texting through because I've said

2118
01:41:12,053 --> 01:41:14,253
Speaker 2: you shouldn't call it a sausage roll. If it's not

2119
01:41:14,452 --> 01:41:17,612
Speaker 2: a meat sausage roll, it's stolen valor yeah, but am

2120
01:41:17,652 --> 01:41:19,572
Speaker 2: I okay with a dog being called a sausage dog?

2121
01:41:20,893 --> 01:41:23,133
Speaker 5: Well, they are made of meat, that's true, so you know,

2122
01:41:23,253 --> 01:41:24,333
Speaker 5: the logic still stands.

2123
01:41:24,612 --> 01:41:26,772
Speaker 2: Someone is this true? Someone says that a sausage is

2124
01:41:26,772 --> 01:41:30,333
Speaker 2: not a shape, it's named after the ingredients sour and sage.

2125
01:41:31,133 --> 01:41:34,572
Speaker 4: Ah, it wouldn't make makes sense pag and flavoring because

2126
01:41:34,612 --> 01:41:37,892
Speaker 4: sausage started off with porked, porked mince, mince pork.

2127
01:41:38,053 --> 01:41:40,253
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean most places it's pork. I mean

2128
01:41:40,572 --> 01:41:43,652
Speaker 2: I prefer a traditional Kiwi beef sausage myself.

2129
01:41:45,053 --> 01:41:49,333
Speaker 4: Controversial really well to anyone listening from the UK, they'll

2130
01:41:49,333 --> 01:41:51,452
Speaker 4: be horrified to hear there. Yeah, I don't think they

2131
01:41:51,492 --> 01:41:53,732
Speaker 4: sell beef sausages over there, don't they. No, they're kind

2132
01:41:53,732 --> 01:41:54,772
Speaker 4: of being choked out of the country.

2133
01:41:54,933 --> 01:41:57,253
Speaker 2: And even though they invented bangers and mash, which is

2134
01:41:57,293 --> 01:41:59,333
Speaker 2: one of my favorite meals for me, it needs to

2135
01:41:59,372 --> 01:42:02,013
Speaker 2: be a very boring traditional sausage on the bangs and

2136
01:42:02,093 --> 01:42:03,812
Speaker 2: mats for it to be the full comfort food that

2137
01:42:03,893 --> 01:42:04,932
Speaker 2: I require.

2138
01:42:05,093 --> 01:42:06,532
Speaker 5: How would you feel about a chicken sausage.

2139
01:42:06,973 --> 01:42:08,852
Speaker 2: I'm not a fan of chicken sausage. I get when

2140
01:42:08,853 --> 01:42:10,612
Speaker 2: you we're on a plane why they always have chicken

2141
01:42:10,612 --> 01:42:14,012
Speaker 2: sausages on plane rather than proper sages. Welcome to the show, Cherry.

2142
01:42:15,532 --> 01:42:15,772
Speaker 9: Hello.

2143
01:42:16,652 --> 01:42:20,493
Speaker 29: I wonder if you guys have heard of an American

2144
01:42:20,612 --> 01:42:22,813
Speaker 29: comedian called James Gregory.

2145
01:42:23,293 --> 01:42:25,293
Speaker 2: James Gregory I.

2146
01:42:25,732 --> 01:42:31,132
Speaker 29: Have not, Okay, he died last year. He was from Georgia,

2147
01:42:31,732 --> 01:42:37,253
Speaker 29: and he has so many absolutely hilarious skits about what

2148
01:42:37,452 --> 01:42:42,452
Speaker 29: you're talking about. He pokes terrible son at sensitives nails

2149
01:42:42,973 --> 01:42:46,852
Speaker 29: who eat a banana and a muffin for breakfast. He

2150
01:42:46,973 --> 01:42:52,532
Speaker 29: blames everything that's everything that's wrong in America. He blamed

2151
01:42:52,732 --> 01:42:55,772
Speaker 29: on the fact that they've given up grief. He was

2152
01:42:55,973 --> 01:43:02,612
Speaker 29: raised on fried chicken. He makes fun of people who

2153
01:43:02,732 --> 01:43:07,852
Speaker 29: don't eat proper butter. He talks about butter, butter spray

2154
01:43:08,812 --> 01:43:12,333
Speaker 29: and sears. His tongue line is that he's born in

2155
01:43:12,452 --> 01:43:15,893
Speaker 29: any parents, so as their daughter comes home with a

2156
01:43:16,013 --> 01:43:19,612
Speaker 29: male that has but a butter spray, then there won't

2157
01:43:19,692 --> 01:43:27,852
Speaker 29: be any grandchildren. He is well worth listening to because

2158
01:43:28,692 --> 01:43:31,852
Speaker 29: he has one skip where he says he doesn't make

2159
01:43:31,973 --> 01:43:36,093
Speaker 29: fun as politics or sex. They're all just sort of

2160
01:43:36,612 --> 01:43:44,572
Speaker 29: real Georgian humor about stuffing as much bacon and pork

2161
01:43:44,652 --> 01:43:49,372
Speaker 29: as you can and chicken and gravy. And as I said,

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01:43:49,492 --> 01:43:53,133
Speaker 29: the whole problem with America is that they've given up

2163
01:43:53,532 --> 01:43:54,293
Speaker 29: eating Greef.

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01:43:54,853 --> 01:43:58,093
Speaker 2: They're still eating a lot of something because last time

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01:43:58,093 --> 01:44:01,052
Speaker 2: WHI was over, there was a few rotund individuals walking around.

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01:44:01,333 --> 01:44:04,572
Speaker 2: What about lard? My dad used to have lard on toast,

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01:44:05,612 --> 01:44:07,572
Speaker 2: and is that still something that a lot of people

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01:44:07,612 --> 01:44:10,973
Speaker 2: are doing. He was a huge fan of ard, lard, sandwiches,

2169
01:44:11,053 --> 01:44:12,652
Speaker 2: lard everywhere, just spreading it around.

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Speaker 29: I don't know, but I really recommend that to look

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01:44:17,293 --> 01:44:20,052
Speaker 29: up the late James Greek Grief well.

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01:44:19,973 --> 01:44:22,053
Speaker 2: Will absolutely well cheery. I've just looked him up here.

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01:44:22,253 --> 01:44:24,572
Speaker 2: I'll give him a listen after the show. Thank you

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01:44:24,652 --> 01:44:24,972
Speaker 2: so much.

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01:44:25,013 --> 01:44:26,532
Speaker 5: It's a good point you make about lud though, Can

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01:44:26,572 --> 01:44:27,133
Speaker 5: you still buy it?

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Speaker 4: Because I remember the old man using lard to cook

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01:44:29,572 --> 01:44:32,852
Speaker 4: up chips and you'd have like deep fried and lard,

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01:44:32,973 --> 01:44:34,972
Speaker 4: and yeah, they were good, they were so beasty.

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01:44:35,093 --> 01:44:38,372
Speaker 2: Beef tallow, Yeah, cooking things up and beef tallow is incredibly,

2181
01:44:38,492 --> 01:44:42,293
Speaker 2: incredibly good for you, incredibly good for you. My dad

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01:44:42,452 --> 01:44:46,012
Speaker 2: used to have one of his favorite meals in the weekend,

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01:44:46,253 --> 01:44:49,812
Speaker 2: a couple of bits of white death bread. Yep, lard

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01:44:50,133 --> 01:44:51,293
Speaker 2: and tongue with the jelly.

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01:44:51,452 --> 01:44:52,333
Speaker 5: That's got to be good for you.

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01:44:52,572 --> 01:44:55,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, the tongue and the tongue jelly beautiful.

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01:44:56,053 --> 01:45:00,852
Speaker 5: That sounds it right. Eighty is the number to cool.

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01:45:00,933 --> 01:45:03,053
Speaker 4: What do you think about the EU looking to ban

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01:45:03,772 --> 01:45:07,612
Speaker 4: vegan products from using the terms like sausage, burger or milk?

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01:45:07,973 --> 01:45:10,492
Speaker 2: A Larda's back. There's trendy looking packs of it at

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01:45:10,532 --> 01:45:11,093
Speaker 2: the soupermarket.

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01:45:11,173 --> 01:45:14,372
Speaker 5: Happy days as good news. It is twenty to four.

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01:45:14,412 --> 01:45:18,253
Speaker 1: Back in a month, Matt Heath Taylor Adams taking your

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01:45:18,333 --> 01:45:20,412
Speaker 1: calls on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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01:45:20,492 --> 01:45:23,652
Speaker 14: It's mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons.

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01:45:23,133 --> 01:45:25,652
Speaker 5: News Talk said, be very good afternoon, cheu. It is

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01:45:25,812 --> 01:45:26,932
Speaker 5: seventeen to three.

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01:45:27,612 --> 01:45:33,452
Speaker 2: So this text says Shall says, I've stopped eating meat

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01:45:33,492 --> 01:45:35,812
Speaker 2: other than seafood for health reasons, and I would never

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01:45:35,933 --> 01:45:39,492
Speaker 2: consider eating any of that chemical laden pretend meat. If

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01:45:39,532 --> 01:45:41,293
Speaker 2: the family is having a steak and I don't feel

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01:45:41,333 --> 01:45:44,092
Speaker 2: like fish that night, I'll have a big, old seasoned

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01:45:44,133 --> 01:45:48,293
Speaker 2: and fried portobello mushroom of a huge supporter of frying

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01:45:48,572 --> 01:45:52,452
Speaker 2: up a portabello mushroom delicious. Plenty of butter, yeah, plenty

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01:45:52,452 --> 01:45:54,852
Speaker 2: of butter. But you don't call it a mushroom steak

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01:45:54,933 --> 01:45:56,933
Speaker 2: like some people do, because it's not no need to

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01:45:56,973 --> 01:45:59,372
Speaker 2: eat that other mark. I'm still going to call plant

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01:45:59,452 --> 01:46:01,852
Speaker 2: based milk milk though, as per the ver milk, which

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01:46:01,933 --> 01:46:04,492
Speaker 2: means to extract liquid by squeezing or pressing.

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01:46:04,732 --> 01:46:08,092
Speaker 4: Interesting, is that right? We take a lot by face value,

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01:46:08,093 --> 01:46:09,213
Speaker 4: and take that by face.

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01:46:09,412 --> 01:46:11,652
Speaker 2: Then how come it's coconut milk because you just hacked

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01:46:11,652 --> 01:46:13,933
Speaker 2: the top off a coconut and drink straight out of it?

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01:46:14,053 --> 01:46:14,173
Speaker 9: Right?

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01:46:16,093 --> 01:46:17,852
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I might be wrong here. Someone see

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01:46:17,893 --> 01:46:21,012
Speaker 2: us saying, please stop saying nipple. Call them teats. They're

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01:46:21,053 --> 01:46:23,652
Speaker 2: not nipples, they're teats. Please stop saying nipple.

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01:46:23,692 --> 01:46:25,213
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's any better if we start

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01:46:25,253 --> 01:46:28,052
Speaker 4: calling them teats, is that better than nipple?

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01:46:28,293 --> 01:46:30,692
Speaker 2: Actually? Tell you what this text is bad. It's backfired

2221
01:46:30,772 --> 01:46:32,532
Speaker 2: terribly for this person that didn't want me to say nipple.

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01:46:32,532 --> 01:46:35,052
Speaker 2: Because what I'm trying to work out between teeth and nipple,

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01:46:35,093 --> 01:46:37,452
Speaker 2: I think I'll probably said nipple ten times.

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01:46:39,053 --> 01:46:41,372
Speaker 4: It's a great word, though, Nipple, Yeah, we can use

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01:46:41,412 --> 01:46:44,412
Speaker 4: it interchangeably. We'll say teat and nipple at the same time.

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01:46:45,572 --> 01:46:47,372
Speaker 4: I eight one hundred and eighty ten eighties number calls.

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01:46:47,412 --> 01:46:50,173
Speaker 2: Hi, boys, US dairy farmers can't help ourselves when we're

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01:46:50,173 --> 01:46:52,412
Speaker 2: staying in a hotel to move the juice tag labels

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01:46:52,452 --> 01:46:55,012
Speaker 2: on hotel baffet breakfast in front of the non dairy

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01:46:55,173 --> 01:46:59,412
Speaker 2: selection milk options is Katrina, Yeah, I love that. Thank

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01:46:59,492 --> 01:47:03,452
Speaker 2: you so much for your text and calls. Mark, welcome

2232
01:47:03,492 --> 01:47:05,053
Speaker 2: to the show. You want to talk about vegetarians?

2233
01:47:06,173 --> 01:47:06,932
Speaker 28: Hey, Hore's were.

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01:47:06,893 --> 01:47:07,412
Speaker 10: Going, Kim.

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01:47:07,732 --> 01:47:10,412
Speaker 28: Hey, I've got to say I do love a number

2236
01:47:10,452 --> 01:47:14,532
Speaker 28: of vegetarian and vegan foods, but at the end of

2237
01:47:14,572 --> 01:47:17,412
Speaker 28: the day, you've got to read the ingredient list, and

2238
01:47:17,452 --> 01:47:21,092
Speaker 28: a lot of these vegan foods, in particular, their ingredient

2239
01:47:21,133 --> 01:47:24,852
Speaker 28: list has got some scary stuff on them. And one

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Speaker 28: of the things they really don't mention is the oxalate

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01:47:28,772 --> 01:47:34,333
Speaker 28: content of these food so and in particular the amount

2242
01:47:34,372 --> 01:47:38,492
Speaker 28: of saw as well. So oxalates are scary because they

2243
01:47:38,612 --> 01:47:40,932
Speaker 28: build up in your system over time, and in front

2244
01:47:41,013 --> 01:47:44,852
Speaker 28: of two spinach leaves gives you the same amount of

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01:47:44,893 --> 01:47:48,253
Speaker 28: oxcellants as you need for a week. So and I

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01:47:48,532 --> 01:47:52,892
Speaker 28: used to bringe on spinach rest cabinet smoothies and virtually

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01:47:53,013 --> 01:47:56,333
Speaker 28: every male and everything else. But then both my wife

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01:47:56,372 --> 01:47:59,772
Speaker 28: and I got an autoimmune condition and it actually you

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01:47:59,853 --> 01:48:03,733
Speaker 28: can trace those directly back to oxcellants.

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Speaker 2: Wow, you got be very wow.

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01:48:06,492 --> 01:48:09,573
Speaker 28: I mean at a core or I'm not a vegetarian

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01:48:09,692 --> 01:48:11,372
Speaker 28: or a vegan. I'm a vaginitarian.

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01:48:12,732 --> 01:48:15,333
Speaker 5: Okay, A fair enough to there's a few of those

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01:48:15,372 --> 01:48:16,852
Speaker 5: out there. And good on you.

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01:48:17,053 --> 01:48:19,932
Speaker 2: Well you look you enjoy yourself exactly.

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01:48:20,133 --> 01:48:21,333
Speaker 5: Yep, no one's going to judge that.

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01:48:21,732 --> 01:48:25,852
Speaker 2: And yeah, I order from Mark's o' cour Mark's old

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01:48:25,893 --> 01:48:27,213
Speaker 2: Cool was just leading up to that.

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01:48:28,133 --> 01:48:29,213
Speaker 5: That was nicely flaid.

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01:48:29,372 --> 01:48:31,293
Speaker 2: That was a great trojan shocking.

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01:48:31,452 --> 01:48:32,452
Speaker 5: Yeah, very shocking.

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01:48:32,612 --> 01:48:34,933
Speaker 2: Hey, never been more shocked to. We'll go back to

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01:48:34,973 --> 01:48:35,612
Speaker 2: a call shortly.

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01:48:35,692 --> 01:48:38,692
Speaker 4: But someone mentioned before the origin of the word sausage

2265
01:48:38,692 --> 01:48:41,572
Speaker 4: apparently was sour in sage. I've actually looked up the

2266
01:48:41,812 --> 01:48:43,293
Speaker 4: etomology of the word sausage.

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01:48:43,452 --> 01:48:43,652
Speaker 2: Yep.

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01:48:44,133 --> 01:48:45,932
Speaker 5: Surprising, but we'll get to that very soon.

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01:48:46,173 --> 01:48:48,013
Speaker 2: And some are saying, was it loud or dripping that

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01:48:48,772 --> 01:48:51,892
Speaker 2: that my dad had on his bread? Actually I think

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01:48:51,933 --> 01:48:53,892
Speaker 2: it might have been dripping. What's the difference. Why am

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01:48:53,933 --> 01:48:56,253
Speaker 2: I calling it lud tripping? Maybe it was both. Sometimes

2273
01:48:56,293 --> 01:48:57,972
Speaker 2: it was called dripping, sometimes it was called lard.

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01:48:58,492 --> 01:49:01,852
Speaker 5: Good question. Oh, Wayne has a bit of a theory

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01:49:03,173 --> 01:49:05,012
Speaker 5: on milk. Yeah, we'll go to Wayne.

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01:49:05,133 --> 01:49:06,812
Speaker 2: Yep, all right, Wayne, welcome to the show.

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01:49:06,853 --> 01:49:07,213
Speaker 25: How are you.

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01:49:08,412 --> 01:49:11,213
Speaker 13: Oh boys, it's not a theory, it's fact.

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01:49:12,213 --> 01:49:15,972
Speaker 3: Not all mill comes out of a nipple or teat. Okay,

2280
01:49:16,093 --> 01:49:18,773
Speaker 3: there are two animals. There are two mammals, the platypus

2281
01:49:19,173 --> 01:49:23,372
Speaker 3: and an kidnap that both excreete the milk from their

2282
01:49:23,452 --> 01:49:26,013
Speaker 3: memory glens through their skin and the animals and their

2283
01:49:26,093 --> 01:49:27,452
Speaker 3: kids lick it up.

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01:49:28,093 --> 01:49:31,572
Speaker 2: Yeah, how crazy is the platypus. Everything is crazy with

2285
01:49:31,572 --> 01:49:33,532
Speaker 2: the platypus because of course they're laying eggs as well,

2286
01:49:33,572 --> 01:49:33,892
Speaker 2: aren't they.

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01:49:34,853 --> 01:49:38,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's one hundred and sixty million years or

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01:49:38,973 --> 01:49:39,852
Speaker 3: something back.

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01:49:39,933 --> 01:49:42,093
Speaker 16: But anyway, I just thought it was that.

2290
01:49:42,372 --> 01:49:44,852
Speaker 2: Now that's good, good, thanks thanks for that way. But

2291
01:49:44,933 --> 01:49:48,092
Speaker 2: and also platypus has venom as well. They're the insane.

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01:49:48,412 --> 01:49:52,052
Speaker 2: When when they first took the platypus back to London

2293
01:49:52,093 --> 01:49:55,892
Speaker 2: and took it in front of whatever, the Great Naturalists Society,

2294
01:49:56,732 --> 01:49:58,692
Speaker 2: they thought that the platypus was a fake, that someone

2295
01:49:58,772 --> 01:50:00,572
Speaker 2: had put it together, because it's got the duck bill,

2296
01:50:00,973 --> 01:50:04,452
Speaker 2: it was feeding its young, it was laying eggs, It

2297
01:50:04,532 --> 01:50:06,652
Speaker 2: shouldn't exist, but it does.

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01:50:06,893 --> 01:50:09,452
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's greedy on the evil scale. It's got it all.

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01:50:09,532 --> 01:50:14,412
Speaker 2: Have you ever had any platypus milk, Wain, No, it's like, yeah,

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01:50:14,692 --> 01:50:15,212
Speaker 2: be interesting.

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01:50:16,293 --> 01:50:16,892
Speaker 5: Never say never.

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01:50:16,973 --> 01:50:17,133
Speaker 10: Wait.

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01:50:18,213 --> 01:50:18,333
Speaker 9: Ye.

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01:50:18,652 --> 01:50:21,333
Speaker 13: The other thing to think about is that more and

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01:50:21,412 --> 01:50:24,293
Speaker 13: more in society you find that there's a distinction between

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01:50:25,293 --> 01:50:27,213
Speaker 13: almost like you call dairy milk, you know, milk from

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01:50:27,692 --> 01:50:29,452
Speaker 13: and from mammals, and then the plant milk.

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01:50:29,612 --> 01:50:31,692
Speaker 16: Yeah, that's almost been separate category.

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01:50:31,772 --> 01:50:33,852
Speaker 2: But yeah, thanks so much for.

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01:50:33,893 --> 01:50:34,253
Speaker 24: That, Wain.

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01:50:34,532 --> 01:50:34,932
Speaker 5: Very good.

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01:50:35,053 --> 01:50:38,372
Speaker 4: Now just quickly back to the sausage etomology. So the

2313
01:50:38,412 --> 01:50:40,892
Speaker 4: word sausage was first used in English in the mid

2314
01:50:41,053 --> 01:50:46,173
Speaker 4: fifteenth century spouled sausage, almost sounding like an American there.

2315
01:50:46,213 --> 01:50:50,532
Speaker 4: The word came from Old North French, so sish, and

2316
01:50:51,173 --> 01:50:56,693
Speaker 4: the French word came from the vulgar Latin sull seeker.

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01:50:57,253 --> 01:50:59,372
Speaker 2: So it's describing a male downstairs.

2318
01:50:59,452 --> 01:51:03,173
Speaker 5: I guess it was the vulgar Latin sala seeker. So

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01:51:03,293 --> 01:51:04,812
Speaker 5: the Latins used it as a dirty word.

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01:51:04,893 --> 01:51:07,812
Speaker 4: The French took it on, probably with some connotation there,

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01:51:08,013 --> 01:51:10,533
Speaker 4: and now now we are still using somees.

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01:51:10,692 --> 01:51:12,652
Speaker 2: The whole thing's been a double n tendra from the

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01:51:12,692 --> 01:51:13,573
Speaker 2: start exactly.

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01:51:14,173 --> 01:51:15,253
Speaker 5: That is that is great work.

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01:51:15,893 --> 01:51:17,852
Speaker 2: People have been immature for a very long time.

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01:51:17,893 --> 01:51:20,492
Speaker 5: Very very dirty. It is eleven minutes to fall back

2327
01:51:20,532 --> 01:51:22,492
Speaker 5: in a moment, the big.

2328
01:51:22,372 --> 01:51:26,532
Speaker 1: Stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything in between.

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01:51:26,772 --> 01:51:29,812
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons used talk.

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01:51:29,692 --> 01:51:30,013
Speaker 9: Z B.

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01:51:31,652 --> 01:51:32,253
Speaker 5: News Talks.

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01:51:32,253 --> 01:51:34,572
Speaker 4: The beasts have been talking about the EU wanting to

2333
01:51:34,853 --> 01:51:38,492
Speaker 4: bam plants plant based foods rather from using meaty terms.

2334
01:51:38,532 --> 01:51:40,173
Speaker 5: Should we do the same year how this.

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01:51:40,253 --> 01:51:43,772
Speaker 2: Text says talk about primary school schoolboy humber boys. I

2336
01:51:43,812 --> 01:51:46,293
Speaker 2: think that's unfair. I didn't even read out this, this

2337
01:51:46,452 --> 01:51:49,612
Speaker 2: joke that someone's sent through here around a platypus. If

2338
01:51:49,652 --> 01:51:51,133
Speaker 2: I was, if I was a mature I would have

2339
01:51:51,213 --> 01:51:52,293
Speaker 2: I would have read that joke out.

2340
01:51:52,293 --> 01:51:53,492
Speaker 4: But it's a hell of a joke as well. I've

2341
01:51:53,492 --> 01:51:55,013
Speaker 4: got to say I had a great laugh at that one.

2342
01:51:55,133 --> 01:51:57,852
Speaker 2: I've just left it sitting there. Can probably work it

2343
01:51:57,853 --> 01:51:59,492
Speaker 2: out yourself, but I've left it sitting there. Yeah.

2344
01:51:59,572 --> 01:51:59,732
Speaker 5: Good.

2345
01:51:59,853 --> 01:52:02,492
Speaker 4: See that is that is maturity right there. Oh eight

2346
01:52:02,492 --> 01:52:04,133
Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

2347
01:52:04,213 --> 01:52:04,932
Speaker 4: call Roy.

2348
01:52:05,053 --> 01:52:07,772
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, guys.

2349
01:52:08,772 --> 01:52:12,293
Speaker 32: Three points here quick once. Okay, first, as your jacket potato.

2350
01:52:12,853 --> 01:52:15,173
Speaker 32: Does it come with a tie? It does come with

2351
01:52:15,213 --> 01:52:15,532
Speaker 32: the type.

2352
01:52:16,053 --> 01:52:16,972
Speaker 2: It does come with the tie.

2353
01:52:18,452 --> 01:52:20,732
Speaker 32: I don't know the jacket potato.

2354
01:52:21,053 --> 01:52:21,973
Speaker 24: I had to have a tie with it.

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01:52:22,933 --> 01:52:26,932
Speaker 5: Point maybe some couplings, Yeah, yeah, of course.

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01:52:27,333 --> 01:52:31,812
Speaker 32: Yeah, it's the secerent thing. Is I really hate to

2357
01:52:31,853 --> 01:52:35,812
Speaker 32: disappoint you, guys. I am going to disappoint you, and

2358
01:52:35,853 --> 01:52:37,612
Speaker 32: you're going to be upset. Help because I might have to.

2359
01:52:38,053 --> 01:52:41,532
Speaker 32: We'll don't look at reality here. Yeah, okay, the sausage

2360
01:52:41,612 --> 01:52:44,013
Speaker 32: role that we buy, every sausage role that we buy,

2361
01:52:44,732 --> 01:52:52,333
Speaker 32: they basically just deceived bread, herbs and some meat. So

2362
01:52:52,412 --> 01:52:55,972
Speaker 32: it's not even sausage roll okay, because it hasn't actually

2363
01:52:56,013 --> 01:52:58,173
Speaker 32: got bully met in a sausage role.

2364
01:52:58,213 --> 01:53:01,412
Speaker 2: Should Yeah, there's some there's some rules in New Zealand

2365
01:53:01,412 --> 01:53:04,572
Speaker 2: about what percentage meat a sausage has to be, isn't there?

2366
01:53:04,692 --> 01:53:06,293
Speaker 2: I know, and I know when you're in the UK

2367
01:53:06,452 --> 01:53:09,173
Speaker 2: there's way more. There's way more bread and sausages than

2368
01:53:09,213 --> 01:53:11,852
Speaker 2: we have here. I believe it's right.

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01:53:11,973 --> 01:53:14,412
Speaker 32: Well, no, we need love read now sausage okay.

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01:53:14,532 --> 01:53:14,652
Speaker 2: Now.

2371
01:53:14,732 --> 01:53:21,053
Speaker 6: The third point is a sausage is normally there's normally meat, right,

2372
01:53:21,173 --> 01:53:24,652
Speaker 6: and it's normally low grade me which is put into

2373
01:53:25,732 --> 01:53:28,452
Speaker 6: a skin which comes from peg or a sheep or

2374
01:53:28,492 --> 01:53:28,933
Speaker 6: something like that.

2375
01:53:29,253 --> 01:53:34,173
Speaker 32: Sometimes that's sausage, yeah yeah, okay, And and a roll

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Speaker 32: there's a piece of bread's normally quite long. You can't

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Speaker 32: be understand, and you put the sausage in. So once

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Speaker 32: you do that, what you get, okay, you get a

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Speaker 32: hot Okay. So a sausage role is actually a hot dog.

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Speaker 2: M Well, I don't know about that, Roy, because I

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Speaker 2: know where the hot dog came from because I've read

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Speaker 2: the history of it recently, So that came from Bratwurst sausages, right.

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Speaker 2: And then they started serving them at at events and

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Speaker 2: at and actually I think it was on peers in

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01:54:10,452 --> 01:54:13,732
Speaker 2: America and to slag them off because they were causing

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Speaker 2: trouble because people got so excited about this new food

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Speaker 2: that there was just basically a German sausages yeah bread.

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Speaker 2: And they started serving them in the States, and people

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Speaker 2: and bad types and you started hanging around these because

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Speaker 2: they were so just so they started getting slagged off

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Speaker 2: in the papers. I think it was the New York

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Speaker 2: Times that first called them a hot dog to try

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01:54:34,133 --> 01:54:37,092
Speaker 2: and slag them off, right, to say, ah, these horrible

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Speaker 2: undesirables eating their hot dogs, and immediately people in hot

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Speaker 2: dogs and started calling them hot dogs. So it was

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Speaker 2: a slur against the food that that that then got

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Speaker 2: taken on board and that's where we get the hot

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Speaker 2: dogs today. That's that's because they were accusing them of

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Speaker 2: being full of dog meat.

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Speaker 4: And I love her story. Those little facts that make

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01:54:56,853 --> 01:54:58,733
Speaker 4: the show what it is. I've got to say, yeah,

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01:54:58,853 --> 01:54:59,453
Speaker 4: that's right.

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01:54:59,933 --> 01:55:01,293
Speaker 2: But that brings us to the end of the show,

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Speaker 2: whatever it is, it is over and thank you so

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01:55:04,013 --> 01:55:06,453
Speaker 2: much for listening everyone. I love the chat today. It's

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Speaker 2: been It's been a great old time, hasn't it.

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Speaker 5: Time certainly has.

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01:55:09,733 --> 01:55:12,133
Speaker 4: And we love your call so much that we pick

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01:55:12,173 --> 01:55:13,932
Speaker 4: a caller of the week each week, and this week

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01:55:13,973 --> 01:55:16,972
Speaker 4: we were talking about this British startup called Standard Toilets,

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01:55:17,013 --> 01:55:20,453
Speaker 4: designed to toilet seat sloped forward about thirty degrees to

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Speaker 4: make it uncomfortable to set. More than five minutes went

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Speaker 4: off that shed and we had a call from Junior,

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Speaker 4: Junior who had just had a meeting with his bosses

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Speaker 4: on a new booking system to use the toilet.

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Speaker 11: When you basically feel like going to the toilet, you

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01:55:31,973 --> 01:55:34,173
Speaker 11: go to the where the team leader sit and then

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01:55:34,293 --> 01:55:36,493
Speaker 11: you write down the time next to your name that

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01:55:36,613 --> 01:55:38,972
Speaker 11: you you're going to the toilet, and then the time

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Speaker 11: you come back. Funny enough, like today after a toolbox

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01:55:42,333 --> 01:55:44,093
Speaker 11: I kind of like an hour later, I kind of

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Speaker 11: wanted to go toilet, but I had to kind of

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Speaker 11: detour to the team leader's office right down my hours.

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Speaker 11: But then I almost went, and I was like, well,

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Speaker 11: I got to go.

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Speaker 15: I got.

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01:55:53,733 --> 01:55:54,733
Speaker 16: No, wait, wait, I need to.

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01:55:54,733 --> 01:55:55,413
Speaker 11: Look for that paper.

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01:55:56,173 --> 01:55:59,733
Speaker 2: I like that is that is rough? Having to log

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Speaker 2: your visits to the bathroom.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, got on your junior fighting power man, fight the power, alright,

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01:56:07,293 --> 01:56:10,573
Speaker 4: the great in Power for Sir Paul Holmes Broadcaster of

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Speaker 4: the Year.

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Speaker 2: Heather Dupless Allen is up next. But right now, Tyler,

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Speaker 2: am I good? Buddy? Tell me? Why am I playing

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01:56:18,893 --> 01:56:19,253
Speaker 2: the song?

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01:56:19,812 --> 01:56:20,733
Speaker 5: Is this Randy Newman?

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01:56:21,093 --> 01:56:21,293
Speaker 9: Yep?

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01:56:23,373 --> 01:56:23,852
Speaker 22: Is this God?

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01:56:23,893 --> 01:56:24,493
Speaker 5: I love La?

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01:56:24,772 --> 01:56:24,972
Speaker 11: Yeah?

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01:56:25,133 --> 01:56:25,653
Speaker 5: Because you have.

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01:56:25,693 --> 01:56:29,253
Speaker 4: Beloved Dodgers through head of fantastic when and you're a

2444
01:56:29,293 --> 01:56:29,772
Speaker 4: happy man.

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01:56:30,013 --> 01:56:33,812
Speaker 2: Yeah that's right, spoiler, you're a baseball fan. They beat

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01:56:33,853 --> 01:56:37,213
Speaker 2: the Phillies at the bottom of the eleventho I love

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01:56:37,413 --> 01:56:42,613
Speaker 2: La all right, until Monday afternoon. Wherever you are, what

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01:56:42,733 --> 01:56:44,972
Speaker 2: are you doing give a Taste a Kiwi from Tyler

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01:56:45,013 --> 01:56:51,533
Speaker 2: and I Let's Go Dodgers.

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Speaker 14: For more from News Talk said B.

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Speaker 1: Listen live on air or online, and keep our shows

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