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Speaker 1: Oh where's hey? You knows well. The Scott Robertson All

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Speaker 1: is with us. Good morning, Good morning, Mike. How'd it

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Speaker 2: It was good. It was good to get on with it.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's been a while and we've been checking

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So Andrew Webster, my love, he's like you. He's passionate,

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Speaker 2: that wrong? And obviously what he did with the Panthers

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Speaker 2: What is it the week that got wrong? The leadership

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Speaker 2: they go wrong? So he'll look at himself. You know, no,

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Speaker 2: we've been done a bit of work with him and

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Speaker 2: he he'll look at himself. What did he not get right?

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Speaker 2: so radio? But own it and what happens next?

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Speaker 1: Good stuff. I'm super excited for you, mate, and I

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Speaker 1: hope it goes brilliantly well the whole season, but starting

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Speaker 1: with England's good fun. So it's good to catch up

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Speaker 1: and go well. Best of luck to you, Cheers, Mike

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