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Speaker 1: Heller duper see Allen heither the Aussie wallerby actually threw

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Speaker 1: a late Hollywood. He threw his arms in the air

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Speaker 1: just a little bit too late year. I agree with

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Speaker 1: that a little bit, Murray, actually just i'd a little

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Speaker 1: bit agree with that. Nineteen past five. Now the government

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Speaker 1: is copping a bit of heat a for hiking the

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Speaker 1: pay of the Public Service Board members. Cabinet agreed on

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Speaker 1: Monday they would do it. They were going to increase

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Speaker 1: the maximum fee by eighty percent so the heads of

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Speaker 1: the board can now a receiver a maximum of one

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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty two thousand dollars a year, up from

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Speaker 1: the ninety k they previously got. Now f fluurforit. Simons

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Speaker 1: is the national secretary for the Public Service Association, and

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Speaker 1: with us, Hey Flur, hello, you don't like this.

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Speaker 2: Look the hypocrisy in this is palpable. This is the

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Speaker 2: same government that increased the minimum wage by a mere

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Speaker 2: f thirty five cents. It is the same government that

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Speaker 2: canceled pay equity claims, including for low income women like

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Speaker 2: care and support workers, many of whom are now back

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Speaker 2: on the minimum wage. They also banned those same women

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Speaker 2: from raising pay equity claims tomorrow We've got thousands of

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Speaker 2: nurses going on strike because they're worried about safe staffing levels.

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Speaker 2: It's astonishing from a government that was elected on addressing

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Speaker 2: the cost of living crisis, and it seems the low

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Speaker 2: income workers and middle income workers this government is nowhere

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Speaker 2: to be seen.

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Speaker 1: I get your points, and I think some of them

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Speaker 1: are fair flurt. But in in terms of actually getting excellence,

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Speaker 1: you've got to pay for excellence if you want it

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Speaker 1: on a board, right, So do you do you object

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Speaker 1: to this idea in and of itself? No?

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Speaker 2: Look, and I think it's very telling that you've got

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Speaker 2: Judith Collins coming out and saying, look, we've got to

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Speaker 2: pay a decent amount to attract people into these roles,

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Speaker 2: while the same applies to our health system. We've got

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Speaker 2: workforce shortages all over the health system. Our members are

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Speaker 2: telling us that rosters are unfilled. There's an effect of

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Speaker 2: hiring freeze. It's a big argument within a hospital to

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Speaker 2: get roles replaced. So the government should take its own

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Speaker 2: advice and apply it to when New Zealanders want it

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Speaker 2: to be applied, which is in our health system which

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Speaker 2: is crying out for more staff.

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Speaker 1: Flur Thank you for your time flu for Simon's PSA

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Speaker 1: National Secretary.

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