1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: What's what's down work for the major calls and how 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: will it affect the economy? The big business questions on 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: the Business Hour with an Edward Dickins. News talks have been. 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 2: Well, that was good timing. Welcome back, loving to have 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: you here. The first set is over Australian Open. It's 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: taken its what an hour and fifteen minutes and they're 7 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 2: hagging like it's the end of the game. What's happening here? 8 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 2: What's happening here? As is Djokovic quitting? Okay, so SEVEREV 9 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: just took out the tie break seventy five and then 10 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: they're just embraced and Djokovic is actually packing up his 11 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 2: bags and it appears as though he has forfeited and 12 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: retired from the game. While I was talking, while I 13 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: was watching, Saverev looked shocked. Saverev shocked as well, You sir, 14 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 2: are finally in the final of a major. Congratulations. But 15 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: we'll find out more about what actually happened to Novak 16 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 2: but later on. It's been a hell of a set. 17 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: It wasn't as though he was physically struggling, but he's 18 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 2: waving goodbye to the Australian Open crowd as we speak, 19 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 2: and walking off after one set, which he lost by 20 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: a millimeter. What a great player, Novak Djokovic. Okay, So 21 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: welcome back to the program. Such excitement news as it breaks. 22 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 2: It is eight minutes after six and Imandrew dickets. So 23 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: the mining sector is welcoming a push for mining to 24 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 2: play a bigger role in the country's economic growth. Resource 25 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 2: Minister Shane Jones has hinted it changes to where we 26 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: can mine, saying we can expect a major announcement next week. 27 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 3: We need to get over ourselves because if we want 28 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 3: the surplus income and the revenue, we should identify which 29 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: areas are really precious to the birthright of quis and 30 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 3: which areas can be used for economic purposes, including mine. 31 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: He mentioned stewardship I mentioned before the news what is 32 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: stewardship land? Is it conservation land? And Texas have said 33 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: stewardship land is the land a region has gifted to DOC. 34 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: So essentially it's private ratepayers land that is in transition 35 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: and is being under the stewardship of public entities. But 36 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 2: he's saying we should do this, but we'll know more 37 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: next week. Josey Vidal is the chief executive officer of 38 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: Straterra now that is the association representing the mining sector. 39 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 2: And welcome to the program, Josie. 40 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 4: Thank you very much. I'm a little bit thrown by 41 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 4: what you just said about Jocobit so because I'm a 42 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 4: big fan. 43 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 2: Aren't we all. He's the goat. He's the goat, and 44 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 2: there was no clue and something that happened. Look, you 45 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 2: must be pretty happy, not at what happened in Novak, 46 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: but what has happened since Christopher luxon State of the 47 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 2: Nation speech and what Shane was saying this morning. 48 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, and Minister Shane Jones has been a real champion 49 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 4: for the industry. You know, he gets it, he under 50 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 4: stands it, and he's listened to us, which is good 51 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 4: to have. And the Prime Minister is a businessman and 52 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 4: pragmatic and he understands that mining is a productive part 53 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 4: of the economy and it can contribute more to economic growth. So, 54 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 4: you know, loosening a bit of the red tape and 55 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 4: enabling some overseas investment and showing some optimism towards mining 56 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 4: is going to help with economic growth. 57 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody doesn't understand the fact that mining 58 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 2: can help. It's just that they're quite prepared to forego 59 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 2: the money because they love our landscape. 60 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's a lot of misinformation about what mining 61 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 4: does and doesn't do. And obviously, you know, we won't 62 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 4: have time to go into the whole inf and outs 63 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 4: of Stewardship Land. But there's a lot of belief that, 64 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 4: you know, somehow mining is taking over the conservation of state. 65 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 4: That's not true. And there won't be mining in the 66 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 4: pristine National Parks or any of the parts of the 67 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 4: conservation of state that are important to New Zealanders. That 68 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 4: just happening. So it's a bit of misinformation around some 69 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 4: of that stuff. 70 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: Well, I'm getting it down in the Commander where they 71 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 2: say the Commandal Forest Park might be affected, in that 72 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,119 Speaker 2: there are licenses already granted or at least interest licenses 73 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: of interest already granted to Australian companies. 74 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, and Minister Jones is doing his big announcement about 75 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 4: mining next week in why he and there's a reason 76 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 4: for that because in that Hiraki region mining contributes nineteen 77 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 4: point three percent towards GDP. People in that area understand 78 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 4: the value of mining. A lot of them work in mining. 79 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 4: They see the money from mining going into their communities. 80 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 4: It doesn't really matter where the company's owned, because a 81 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 4: lot of companies owned in New Zealand, not just mining 82 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 4: companies by overseas interests, it's the people working in those companies. 83 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 4: They work in New Zealand. They're not like Australian miners. 84 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 4: They don't fly and fly out. They live there, their 85 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 4: kids go to school there, they contribute to the community. 86 00:04:55,440 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 4: Mining's are really highly paid job and so there's plenty 87 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 4: of money going into those communities. 88 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: What should we be looking for? Should we be looking 89 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 2: for hydrocarbons, or should we be looking for precious beat 90 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: or should we be looking for coal? Should we be 91 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: looking for rare earth minerals or should we just be 92 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: looking for everything? 93 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 4: So we should be looking for what the world wants, 94 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 4: and the world does want a lot of the minerals 95 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 4: that are going into technology and energy, so some of 96 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 4: the lithe and cobalt, copper, that sort of thing. But 97 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 4: then there's also the rare earth elements and some of 98 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 4: the minerals that we do have here, so we're already 99 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 4: mining some of them. Primarily we mind gold and coal, 100 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 4: and it's worth noting that gold, the gold price is very, 101 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 4: very high, and in the last year it's gone up 102 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 4: over fifteen hundred dollars an ounce in New Zealand. And 103 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 4: there's a reason for that because it's money. It's safe 104 00:05:55,360 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 4: money when there's chaos in the world. So we have gold, 105 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 4: we have and the minister's announcement will be where there's 106 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 4: gold mined. And you know, don't overlook gold is important 107 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 4: in the mineral's story going forward. 108 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 2: How does the rest of the world react when a 109 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: government backs our mining industry versus when a government puts 110 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: the kibosh on it. 111 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 4: Well, this is so fascinating because this is my daily 112 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 4: bread and I get calls from lawmakers in other countries 113 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 4: and I've met with some from other countries as well, 114 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 4: and also from investors in other countries, and they're very 115 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 4: excited about the pass tracked legislation. I think we'll see 116 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 4: some companies can some countries follow that, And you know, 117 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 4: obviously if the government's backing an industry is attractive to investors. 118 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 4: There is actually a global scale that shows how countries 119 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 4: policy and laws make mining investment attractib or not. We'd 120 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 4: dropped to the bottom of that scale, but we're moving 121 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 4: back up it, which is really encouraging. 122 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: Well, we can't wait for once again happened next week. 123 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: Joseph Vidal from SWATIRA, Chief executive officer. You might want 124 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 2: to hang on the line and have a listen because 125 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 2: I've got some tennis news for you. So okay, well yeah, okay, 126 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: so here we go. 127 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 4: Thanks to your time. 128 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 2: It's a pleasure. So Novak Djokovic pulled out after the 129 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 2: first test in the Australian Open semi final, so of 130 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 2: course the first interview goes to Alexander Zeverev and here's 131 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: what he had to say just moments ago. 132 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 5: Now, the very first thing I want to say is, 133 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 5: please you guys, don't don't boo a player when he 134 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 5: goes out with injury. Yes, I know, I know that 135 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 5: everybody paid for tickets and everybody wants to see hopefully 136 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 5: a great five said match and everything, but you've got 137 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 5: to understand, Novak Djokovic is somebody that has given the 138 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 5: sport for the past twenty years, absolutely everything of his life. 139 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 3: And he. 140 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 5: Has won this turn with an abdominal tear. He has 141 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 5: won this turn with a hamstring tear. If he cannot 142 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 5: continue a tennis match, it really means that he cannot 143 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 5: continue a tennis match, so please be respectful and really 144 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 5: showed some love for Novak as well. 145 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: What a classy thing to do. Alexander Zverev, who was 146 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 2: sweating like a pig, has been working hard airs. He 147 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: was as shocked as anybody and he knew exactly the 148 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 2: right thing to say. How unclassy from the Australian Open crowd. 149 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 2: Who has booed the goat? Unbelievable. 150 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 151 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: news talks. 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